May 09, 2023 Parks & Recreation Advisory Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULED FOR MAY 9TH, 2023.

IT IS 5:00 AND PLEASE CALL FOR THE ROLL.

SET TEN MINUTES.

WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? NUMBER FOUR, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR APRIL 23RD.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, IF YOU PLEASE.

I WAS JUST GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? OH. CAN WE TAKE A VOTE? YES.

NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

LAWRENCE HEMKE.

HI, IT'S LAURIE.

OKAY. LAURIE, THANK YOU.

LIKE TO SPEAK? WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM? DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM? YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS I WANTED TO SPEAK ON.

SO YOU WANT TO WAIT AND SPEAK ON THE AGENDA ITEM? EXACTLY. BUT I CAN COME TO THE PODIUM AND TELL YOU THAT I THINK THAT'S 6.1060.

6.1? YEAH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO RIGHT TO THE PRESENTATION OF 6.1, DISC GOLF AT

[6.1 Disc Golf At Simmons Park]

HI. GOOD EVENING. CATHERINE VORRASI, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS NEW ITEM FORWARD TO YOU TONIGHT.

THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY.

WE'RE COMING TO YOU FIRST.

AND WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN TOMMY GOAD IS HERE, THE PRESIDENT OF EIGHT FLAGS DISC GOLF ASSOCIATION.

I'M GOING TO KIND OF LAY THE FOUNDATION AND THEN HAVE HIM COME ON UP AND SPEAK A LITTLE FURTHER ON THIS THIS IDEA, THIS CONCEPT.

SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS, IS TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DISC GOLF THROUGH A VIDEO AND ALSO SHOW THEN A VIDEO OF A PROJECT THAT WAS WHERE WAS THE PROJECT? NEW SMYRNA BEACH.

THEY DID A DISC GOLF COURSE THERE.

KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE COURSE, THE IMPACT ON THE ON THE LAND, IF YOU WILL.

AND SO WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

BUT I FIRST WANT TO SHOW THE DID I DO SOMETHING? NO. IS IT UP ON YOUR SCREEN? CAN YOU SEE IT? I WANT TO SHOW WHAT IS DISC GOLF FIRST.

IT'S ON THIS SCREEN.

OKAY. IT'S COMING.

SORRY. I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE PUT MY PAPER ON THERE.

OKAY, SO I'LL MAKE IT BIG.

SO THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES HERE.

[VIDEO] DISC GOLF IS GOLF FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.

WE'VE GOT 18 HOLES ON COURSES JUST LIKE BALL GOLF AND THE RULES AND EVERYTHING.

THE ETIQUETTE, THE CAMARADERIE, THE TECHNIQUE.

IT'S ALL THE SAME. DISC GOLF IS BIOMECHANICALLY JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SPORT.

THE MUSCLES HAVE TO FIRE THE SAME POINT AND YOU HAVE TO USE THEM TOGETHER.

INSTEAD OF HITTING THE BALL OFF THE TEE BAG, WE USE OUR LEGS AND WE'RE THE LEVER AND WE THROW THE DISC.

WE HAVE IS A SUSPENDED CATCHING DEVICE.

IT'S METAL. IT SITS ABOUT WAIST HIGH, AND IT HAS TO CATCH THE DISC OUT OF MID-AIR.

WE HAVE PAR THREE PAR FOUR PAR FIVE, JUST LIKE IN BALL GOLF.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS YOU'VE GOT TO THINK OF DISC GOLF IN FEET.

OUR PAR THREES ARE UNDER 200FT, NOT 200 YARDS.

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FOR ME, IT'S LIKE GETTING ON THE FAST BREAK AND JUST GOING DOWN AND JUST SLAMMING IT.

IT'S JUST SUCH AN ADRENALINE RUSH.

THERE'S BAD SHOTS AND THE ANGUISH AND MISSING PUTTS ARE ALL JUST RESOLVED ONCE YOU HIT THAT LINE AND YOU JUST HAVE THAT MOMENT OF ZEN.

WHEN I FIRST STARTED, I PLAYED EVERY SINGLE DAY, SKIPPED A LITTLE BIT OF SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO FIT IT IN WHEREVER I COULD.

MY DAD TOOK ME OUT AS OUR LIKE, FATHER DAUGHTER TIME, AND WHEN I STARTED OUT DRIVING HIS FRIENDS, THAT'S WHAT GOT ME HOOKED.

IT'S COOL TO THROW FAR, BUT YOU GOT TO PUTT WELL, TOO.

IT'S ALL ABOUT PLAYING SMART, PLAYING CONSERVATIVE, KNOWING WHEN TO ATTACK.

REALLY, EVERY SINGLE SHOT THAT I STEP UP TO, I KIND OF TRY TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OF ALL VARIABLES.

CHECKING THE WIND. I'M CHECKING THE DISTANCE.

SEE YOU GETTING A LOT BIGGER.

A LOT MORE PEOPLE COMING OUT, A LOT MORE ATHLETES GETTING INTO THE GAME.

I TRAVEL ALL OVER THE WORLD.

I'VE BEEN TO 11 COUNTRIES.

I'VE BEEN TO EVERY SINGLE UNITED STATES PLAYING DISC GOLF.

AND THE PEOPLE YOU MEET AND THE TIMES YOU HAVE ARE UNBELIEVABLE.

THEY INVITE US INTO THEIR HOMES.

THEY TAKE CARE OF US. THEY COOK US FOOD.

IT'S AN UNBELIEVABLE SUBCULTURE THAT'S REALLY TAKEN OVER.

I THINK THAT THE OUTSIDE WORLD COULD SEE HOW DEDICATED THE PEOPLE WERE IN DISC GOLF AND HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO SOMEBODY WHEN THEY GET HOOKED.

THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET HOOKED.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU A BETTER IDEA.

GOLF IS IF YOU WEREN'T SURE BEFORE.

AND THEN WHAT I WANT TO DO NOW IS PULL UP A VIDEO THAT NEW SMYRNA BEACH DISC GOLF PUT TOGETHER KIND OF TELLS YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE COURSE PART THAT WAS MORE ABOUT THE GAME.

WHAT IS IT? AND SO THIS HOPEFULLY WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.

AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL BRING TOMMY UP AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT.

IT'S A LITTLE QUICK THERE AT THE END.

KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA, AN IDEA OF THE OF THE LAYOUT, IF YOU WILL.

SO ONE THING BEFORE WE INVITE TOMMY UP AND THEN IF OR IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THE THE SPEAKER OR THE REQUEST TO SPEAK, WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS THIS IS A NEW CONCEPT.

THIS IS A NEW PROJECT IDEA.

THE FIRST THING WE DO IS THE DEPARTMENT LOOKS AT IT AND THEN WE BRING IT TO YOU AND SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.

THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY.

THIS IS JUST TRYING TO SEE.

DO YOU WANT US TO GO FORWARD AND FIND OUT COSTS, FIND OUT WHAT THE DESIGN MIGHT LOOK LIKE BECAUSE THIS IS ALL PRETTY MUCH BEING OFFERED, OFFERED TO THE CITY AT NO CHARGE AS FAR AS DESIGN AND SOME OF THE ELEMENTS THAT TOMMY WILL TALK ABOUT.

SO IT'S NOT APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT.

IT'S THIS IS WE'RE SEEKING WHETHER THE BOARD WOULD LIKE WE'RE SEEKING CONSENSUS, WHETHER THE BOARD WOULD LIKE US TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION AT THIS POINT BECAUSE

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SO CHAIR, DID YOU WANT TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION OR DID YOU WANT TO HEAR THIS? IT'S UP TO YOU. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU FOR CALLING.

USUALLY THEY PRESENT FIRST.

YOU WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO BE.

HARD FOR ME TO PRESENT WITHOUT HEARING.

OKAY. NOT A PROBLEM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THAT'S HOW THE CITY MAKE A MOTION.

SO. YEAH, OF COURSE.

MY NAME IS TOMMY GOAD. I AM A LIFETIME NATIVE OF THE ISLAND.

I AM BRINGING TO YOU THE IDEA PRESENTED BY OUR LOCAL CLUB OF OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU, BUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT INFORMED OF PROVIDING THE THIS CATCHING BASKETS AND THE THE COURSE DESIGN AND ANY KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE MIGHT BE SEEKED OUT BY ANYONE IN REFERENCE TO ANY OF THE ISSUES GOING ON AND ALSO UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE OF THE COURSE ITSELF.

THERE'S NOT A LOT MORE TO PRESENT THAN WHAT YOU'VE SEEN HERE OTHER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE PROPOSAL.

WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR THE PARTNERSHIP AS FAR AS OBVIOUSLY THE LAND.

WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS NOW WITH THE WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

AND I'VE BEEN RESOURCING AND SEEKING AVENUES THAT WILL HELP ME TO FURTHER THIS PROJECT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

WE ARE. I'M A BIG FAN OF DISC GOLF.

I AM A FIVE YEAR VETERAN OF THE BALL GOLF SPORT.

I WAS A TEACHING PROFESSIONAL AND HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE IN THAT REALM.

SO GETTING INTO DISC GOLF WAS AN EASY TRANSITION.

IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S AN IDENTICAL SPORT OTHER THAN MECHANICS.

IT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE NEXT GENERATION IS LOOKING FOR.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, BECAUSE OF THE UPKEEP AND THE CO-MINGLING WITH NATURE, WE DO NOT.

AS FAR AS THE DISC GOLF COMMUNITY GOES, WE WE FROWN ON ANY KIND OF AN INVASION OF OF ANY KIND OF NATURAL SETTING.

IT OBVIOUSLY LENDS VERY WELL AND FAVORABLE TO OUR COURSES AND THE SET UP TO HAVE AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE INCREASE THE DIFFICULTY LEVEL NATURAL WATER HAZARDS AND SETTINGS, WHICH ACTUALLY WE HAVE FOUND IS AVAILABLE HERE IN SIMMONS PARK WITH A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT GROWS AND SPLITS TO GO TWO WAYS THROUGH THE THROUGH THE PROPERTY COULD BE VERY USABLE AND EASILY UTILIZED.

LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE TO PRESENT AS FAR AS THE PROJECT GOES RIGHT NOW.

AS CATHERINE HAS MENTIONED, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO BE RESEARCHED AND DELVED INTO.

BUT PLEASE, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, SO HOW HOW LARGE OF AN AREA, HOW MANY ACRES DO YOU NEED TO DO THE 18 GENERALLY, THE THE THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT AN ACRE PER HOLE GOING FOR 18 HOLES AS SPREAD OUT AND UTILIZING AS MUCH OF THE NATURAL CLEARINGS THAT ARE IN THIS SPACE ALREADY WOULD BE IDEAL.

YEAH. SO ABOUT AN ACRE.

A HOLE. SO TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

YEAH. AND I APOLOGIZE.

AM I. WHAT PACKET ARE WE LOOKING AT? AM I. DID I. SO IT'S ONE SHEET I CAN KIND OF.

IT LOOKS. YEAH. I CAN ROUGHLY DESCRIBE IT TO YOU.

YEAH. SO THIS.

I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY.

SORRY. IT'S JUST A ONE. IT'S A ONE PAGE PROPOSAL, ESSENTIALLY.

YEAH. WE'RE WILLING TO, TO DONATE OR TO, TO PROVIDE THE BASKETS TO THE PROPERTY, WHICH COMES OUT TO ABOUT A $9,000 COST AT NO CHARGE TO THE CITY.

AND AGAIN, WE WILL MAINTAIN THE BASKETS.

BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING OF THE CITY IS ASSISTANCE IN DEAD CLEARING, WHICH IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH ACTUALLY WOULD HELP TO PROMOTE THE GROWTH OF THE TREE CANOPY AND THE NATURAL SETTING THAT'S ALREADY THERE, AS WELL AS CONCRETE USAGE OR POSSIBLY PAVERS TO PROVIDE OUR OUR TEE PADS, IF YOU WILL, WHICH IS WHERE WE THROW THE DISC FROM.

BUT THIS IS ASSUMED ALREADY AT SIMMONS IT'S BEING PROPOSED FOR THE SIMMONS IS THAT THE ONLY PLACE THAT IT'S BEING CONSIDERED? FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL CALIBER COURSE WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT TO PROMOTE BECAUSE THAT BRINGS MORE INTEREST TO THE AREA.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL SETTING.

THOSE BASKETS ARE WELL USED AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AS A LOCAL CLUB.

THEY'RE JUST NOT PROVIDING ANY KIND OF DRAW FOR THE DISC GOLF COMMUNITY TO COME AND EXPLORE OUR BEAUTIFUL ISLAND.

I GUESS MY CONCERN JUST IS, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, MY PERSONAL HOPE WOULD BE THAT THERE IS NOT A LOT MORE MOVEMENT OF ANY KIND OVER AT SIMMONS THAN HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

AND THERE WERE TALKS JUST LAST WEEK AT THE CITY COMMISSION OF CLEAR CUTTING THAT PROPERTY FOR THE SOCCER.

THIS PROJECT WOULD HELP TO PUSH THAT AWAY.

AS FAR AS INCORPORATING THE HIKING TRAIL IDEA, NOT TOUCHING THE TREE CANOPY AT ALL.

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THERE IS AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE ALL ABOUT NATURAL SETTING.

THERE'S POSSIBILITIES TO USE THE HIKING TRAILS FOR OTHER LOCAL CLUBS AND ANYONE WHO WOULD WANT TO UTILIZE THAT AREA.

WE AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF DEAD SPACE AND AND UNDER SHRUBBERY, UNDER STORY THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED OUT OF THERE FOR SAKE OF THE FOR THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

AND WE'RE WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT AS MUCH AS YOU'RE WILLING TO LET US AT NO CHARGE.

AND I LOVE THAT WHOLE PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP IS CERTAINLY A GOOD WAY TO GO.

AND I LIVE RIGHT BY THE HIGH SCHOOL.

SO I SEE YOU GUYS OUT THERE AND USING THOSE.

MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, HAVE YOU ALL REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY AT ALL TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES INSIDE THE COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY NOT IN THE CITY, BUT IN THE COUNTY AREAS THAT MIGHT EVEN BE BIGGER AREA FOR YOU GUYS TO THROUGH OUR RESEARCH, THERE ARE SPOTS THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLY UTILIZED.

THERE NOT NECESSARILY.

I HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO THEM AS MUCH.

I'VE BEEN REALLY EXHAUSTING THIS OPPORTUNITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR FOLLOWING IS SO CLOSE TO THE ISLAND.

I'M SO CLOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH IT THROUGH MY LOCAL TENURE AND JUST THE POSSIBILITY WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO UTILIZE A PARK SPACE AND POSSIBLY CEMENT IT AND KEEP IT FROM BEING DEVELOPED AT AN AWFUL EXPENSE TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

I MEAN, THERE'S A AS A LOCAL, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS PARK SPACE THERE.

THAT WAS THE CITY HAD THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE UTILIZED FOR ANYTHING.

I MEAN, NOT EVEN LET ALONE THE QUARTER MILE WALKING TRAIL THAT JUST WAS PUT IN IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT THE FACT THAT THE CITY OWNS IT AT ALL.

I PLAYED GOLF THE WEST COURSE AND AFTER HAVING WALKED THE PROPERTY AND YOU AND REALIZING WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES COULD BE AS FAR AS PUSHING INTO THERE, IT REALLY WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY I FEEL.

CATHERINE THAT'S TEN ACRES, RIGHT? AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU GUYS NEED AN ACRE, A HOLE.

THERE'S MORE, THERE IS SPACE FOR THIS AT THAT AT THE SIMMONS PROPERTY.

THE CITY OWNS MULTIPLE ACRES OUT THERE.

YEAH, IT WOULD IT WOULD DEFINITELY ACCOMMODATE 19 ACRES IF THAT'S WHAT WHAT WAS TO BE USED.

AND AGAIN WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN YET THIS IS JUST SEEKING WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS CONCEPT THAT THE COURSE CAN BE CONFIGURED ANY WHICH WAY AS IT WAS DESCRIBED TO ME, IS THE MORE YOU GIVE, THE LESS YOU CAN BASICALLY FOLLOW THE NATURAL WAYFINDING, IF YOU WILL, AND NOT HAVE TO GET RID OF ALL THE DEAD BRUSH.

THERE'S A LOT OF NATURAL BARRIERS. THE MORE PROPERTY YOU GIVE, THE LESS INVASIVE.

YEAH, THROUGHOUT THE SPACE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US TO EXPLORE, THERE'S A LOT OF CLEARING AREAS THAT WOULD BE AS FAR AS, LIKE I SAID, THE UNDERSTORY WOULD BE MINIMAL.

DEAD SPACE CLEARING WOULD ALSO HELP TO UTILIZE THOSE SPACES.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF NATURAL BARRIER PRESENTED BY THE SAW PALMETTO THAT IS IN THAT SPACE AS WELL THAT WE WILL NOT TRY TO TOUCH IF POSSIBLE, WHICH ALSO GRANTS TO OUR NATURAL SETTING AND WHAT WE HAVE. AVAILABLE HERE.

AND IT JUST REALLY HELPS TO PUSH THE LOCAL, YOU KNOW, LOCALIST MENTALITY IN THE NATIVE AGENDA AS FAR AS KEEPING OUR LOCAL GREEN SPACE GREEN.

THANK YOU. OF COURSE.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU CHAIR.

YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT KEEPING THE NATURAL THING TAKEN CARE OF.

NOW, WHEN I WAS WATCHING THE VIDEO, IT SEEMED LIKE WHEN THEY WERE GOING IN WITH THOSE BULLDOZERS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE THAT IT DO ANY ANIMAL RIGHTS PEOPLE COME OUT AND SAY, HEY, ARE WE DOING A CLEARING OF ANY ANIMALS THAT MIGHT BE IN THE AREA? THAT'S ON THE FIRST PART OF OUR AGENDA IS MAKING SURE THAT ARBORIST, BIOLOGISTS, IF AVAILABLE AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH THE SPACE, IS INVOLVED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE DESIGN OF THE COURSE, BECAUSE WE ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANT TO HINDER ANY OF THAT BECAUSE, AGAIN, THAT NATURAL SETTING MAKES IT THAT MUCH MORE APPEALING TO COME AND AND EXPLORE THE COURSE.

SO.

THANK YOU. AND GO AHEAD A COUPLE OF THINGS.

NUMBER ONE, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLEAR THE AREA.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE FIGHT THE CITY HAD TO PUT SIMMONS PARK THERE.

I BELIEVE THE GOAL OF THAT PARK WAS AS A PASSIVE PARK, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT STATIONS IN SO KIDS CAN LEARN ABOUT NATURE.

AND NOW, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, YOU'RE GOING TO COME IN AND TAKE SOME OF THAT NATURE AWAY.

WE HAD TRUST ME WHEN I SAID MAJOR BATTLES, I UNDERSTAND.

AND SO I AM EXTREMELY CONCERNED THAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT PARK IS GOING TO GET

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SO IF YOU GET PEOPLE FLINGING DISCS, ARE THEY GOING OVER THE FENCE? SO TO BE CLEAR, I WAS PRESENTED A PROPERTY LINE THAT GAVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUSH DIRECTLY BEHIND THOSE BATHROOMS AND EXPLORE AREA TOWARDS THE GOLF COURSE.

WE WOULD NOT TOUCH ANY OF THE AREA WITHIN 150, 250FT OF THE HOUSES ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT AREA.

TO BE HONEST, I WISH YOU HAD PRESENTED THAT.

I'M A LITTLE OFFENDED THAT YOU'RE TELLING ME THIS, BUT WE WE DIDN'T SEE IT.

OKAY. I'M SORRY THAT THAT WAS NOT PRESENTED IN ANY FAVORABLE FASHION.

I HAVE SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE I GO DOWN TO THE TERMINAL ALL THE TIME.

THAT THE LACK OF A BETTER TERM DISCOURSE.

YES, SIR. IS ALMOST NEVER USED.

I JUST DON'T SEE THE NEED.

CAN I ASK YOU WHAT TIME YOU MIGHT BE TRAFFICKING THAT AREA? ALL DAY LONG? BECAUSE I LIVE THERE.

OKAY. WELL, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED BY SCHOOL PROPERTY RULES TO BE ON THE COURSE BEFORE..

EVEN ON THE WEEKEND.. AFTER 4:00 OR IF YOU.

WELL, WE'RE THERE ALL DAY ON SUNDAYS.

I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I'M THERE EVERY DAY ON SUNDAYS.

SO I APOLOGIZE THAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE DRAW.

I MEAN.

WHY NOT, HAVE YOU TRIED APPROACHING THE SCHOOL DEPARTMENT TO IMPROVE THAT COURSE? THE SCHOOL? WE ARE VERY WORRIED THAT AT THE RATE THAT THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT IS GOING AND AS FAR AS SCHOOLS AND THEIR PROPERTIES ARE CONCERNED, THEY'RE GOING TO SHUT US DOWN WITHIN A MATTER OF YEARS, MAYBE EVEN MONTHS AS FAR AS SCHOOL SHOOTINGS GO ON A REGULAR BASIS.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF 150 FOOT FENCE KEEPING US FROM EVER PLAYING THERE AGAIN.

SO THAT'S OUR BIGGEST CONCERN.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, OUR DISC GOLF COMMUNITY, WHICH IS VASTLY AND RAPIDLY GROWING HERE, IS SHUT DOWN COMPLETELY FROM THE ISLAND.

AND TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST, IT'S ONE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO KEEP THE NEXT GENERATION INTERESTED IN WHAT WE HAVE HERE TO OFFER, BECAUSE AT THE CURRENT RATE, WE'RE NOT PROVIDING THINGS FOR ANYBODY UNDER THE AGE OF 50 TO DO ON A REGULAR BASIS FOR FREE.

THERE'S NOTHING HERE LOCALLY FOR US TO DO, PERIOD.

OKAY. TELL HER.

I'D HAVE. AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE PRESENTING TO YOU, SIR.

WE'RE WORKING. THIS IS PART OF THAT PROCESS.

THE OTHER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS AT SOME POINT MAINTENANCE FOR THIS IS GOING TO FALL ON THE CITY.

NO, ALL FALLS ON US. WE'VE DEVELOPED THAT IN OUR PROPOSAL.

IT'S RIGHT THERE BEFORE YOU. SO SOMEBODY FROM YOUR CLUB IS GOING TO BE THERE TO COLLECT THE TRASH? YEAH, WE HAVE RECEPTACLES WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE AND WE WILL EMPTY THEM REGULARLY.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. OUR CLUB DOES THE TRASH EMPTYING THOSE RECEPTACLES.

YOU CAN CHECK WITH THEM IF YOU WANT TO.

I JUST CAN'T SEE THE NEED FOR THIS.

SO CAN I ASK, CAN I ASK FOR FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE SPACE THAT'S THERE? THE WELL OVER 18 ACRES.

TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO WALK WITH NATURE.

SO YOU CANNOT CURRENTLY DO THAT ON THE SPACE WE'RE LOOKING AT.

THERE'S A LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE TRAIL ON LESS THAN THREE ACRES BEING USED OF THE CURRENT SPACE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

WE DON'T EVEN WANT TO TOUCH WITHIN 150 YARDS OF WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.

WE DON'T WANT TO USE THAT SPACE AT ALL.

WE WANT TO PUSH FURTHER INTO THE WOODS, GET CLOSER TO THE GOLF COURSE AND CLOSER TO THE AIRPORT WITH OUR PROJECT COMPLETELY LEAVING EVERYTHING YOU HAVE THERE UNTOUCHED AND ALSO PROVIDING MORE SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO UTILIZE THE NATURAL TRAIL WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE BECAUSE IT'S A HIKING TRAIL ESSENTIALLY WITH BASKETS ALONG THE WAY.

IT'S NOT A GOLF COURSE AS ONE WOULD TRADITIONALLY THINK, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE.

WE'RE NATURALISTS IN OUR BASIC FORM AND WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE AS FAR AS WHAT WE WANT TO BUILD.

AND AT THE RATE WE'RE GOING IT ON THIS ISLAND, WE'RE NOT HEADING THAT DIRECTION AT ALL.

IF YOU DON'T ALLOW US TO DO SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE START TO SEE USE FOR ON THAT SPACE, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF YEARS BEFORE IT GETS PURCHASED BY SOMEBODY ELSE.

NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. OKAY.

JUST PROVIDING INFORMATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR PRESENTER.

ANYBODY ELSE? I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS VERY QUICKLY.

WHAT'S THE AGE GROUP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO PROMOTE THIS? WATCHING AT AUSTIN PARK, WHICH IS A PARK IN JACKSONVILLE, AND I'VE DONE MULTIPLE DAYS WHERE I WILL SIT AND WATCH GROUPS OF PEOPLE COME THROUGH.

IT'S ANYWHERE FROM KIDS CLUBS ON SATURDAY MORNINGS AT ANYWHERE 7 TO 10 YEARS OLD AND PEOPLE UP TO THE AGE OF 80 YEARS OLD WALKING REGULARLY TO PROVIDE THEMSELVES EXERCISE, SIMPLY THROWING FRISBEES ALONG THE WAY.

AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS, I'VE SEEN THIS ALREADY IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT, BUT COMPLETELY DOWN TO SLIGO CREEK PARKWAY IN DC.

OKAY. AND WHAT I, I CAN ATTEST TO ONE THING TO YOUR CONCERNS, MR.

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IT WAS IMPROVED BECAUSE OF THE MERE FACT THAT SOME OF THE UNDERGROUND WAS NOT EVEN BEING WALKED ON BEFORE BECAUSE PEOPLE COULDN'T GET THROUGH IT AND THEY CLEARED A PATH.

SO IT WASN'T IMPEDING A LOT OF THE UNDERBRUSH.

IT WAS TAKING AWAY THE UNDERBRUSH AS INSTEAD OF REMOVING TREES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, TREES WAS THERE BOUNDARIES, YOU KNOW, AND OBSTACLES.

SO AND JUST ONE REFERENCE FOR ANYONE LOOKING FOR LOCAL INFORMATION, SPRINGFIELD PARK IN JACKSONVILLE, IF ANYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH IT, TEN YEARS AGO WAS DECREPIT AND A PLACE FOR THE HOMELESS TO SURVIVE.

AND SINCE THE DISC GOLF COMMUNITY HAS GOTTEN IN THERE, IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PARK NOW.

AND IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO GO DOWNTOWN, I MEAN, GO DOWN THERE AND EXPERIENCE IT, I WOULD LOVE TO WALK IT WITH THEM AT ANY POINT AND SHOW THEM WHAT DIFFERENCES AND IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE. AND THAT'S JUST IN A CITY SETTING.

THANK YOU. YEAH, OF COURSE.

YEAH. AND AGAIN, I'M.

I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHEN SIMMONS PARK WAS BEING DEVELOPED, I DID NOT SUPPORT THAT PARK BECAUSE OF ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK THE PARK ITSELF IS A GREAT PARK NOW SINCE IT GOT DONE, IT'S DONE.

BUT I HAD HOPED THAT THAT LAND WAS NOT GOING TO BE TOUCHED.

I DO. I SEE YOU GUYS OUT AT THE.

MY COUSIN LIVES RIGHT THERE.

I'M DOWN THERE A LOT. I SEE YOU GUYS OUT THERE.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO START ALLOWING.

WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, WE COULD PLAY TENNIS ON THOSE COURTS.

WE CANNOT DO THAT.

AND IT'S BECAUSE OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS AND THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SECURITY FOR THE SCHOOLS.

I DO WORRY FOR YOU GUYS IN THAT RESPECT.

AGAIN, I, I AM OF THE MINDSET, TOO, THAT WE ARE ALL ALSO COUNTY RESIDENTS.

AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE THE COUNTY STEPPING UP TO TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOME OF THE PARKS WHERE IT HAS.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT AT SIMMONS PARK IS THE SOCCER, WHICH I DISAGREE WITH THAT..

COMPLETELY. AND I THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS WHY, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO WE'RE ALREADY AT CAPACITY.

A LOT OF PLACES I KNOW THAT DISC GOLF AT THE HIGH SCHOOL IS A VERY SMALL ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPREADING OUT AND USING THE NATURE AS BOUNDARIES.

I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY COOL.

I THINK THERE'S PLACES TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, PLACES WHERE THEY MIGHT BE FORCING TIMBER THAT'S ALL OVER THIS COUNTY.

THE PROBLEM WITH THE COUNTY RESEARCH IS THAT MAJORITY OF THE LAND IS OWNED BY RAYONIER AND THEY DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYBODY OUTSIDE.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COUNTY SPACE THAT THEY OWN THAT THEY'RE HAVING ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR.

I HAVE LOOKED INTO THAT A LOT.

AND SO IT'S JUST I SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING. AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT HAVING ACTIVITIES FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER FOLKS, THE KIDS AND STUFF.

SO I APPLAUD THAT.

I JUST I PERSONALLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WITH SIMMONS PARK.

CAROL.

CHERYL THE THE PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE SOMETHING MY KIDS PLAYED DISC GOLF FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IN DIFFERENT PLACES WE LIVED. WHAT I LIKE ABOUT DISC GOLF IS YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY IN THE WOODS OR YOU CAN BE IN THE WOODS AND YOU CAN HAVE YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY THERE WATCHING SOMEBODY PLAY DISC GOLF.

YOU CAN BE OUT THERE WITH YOUR TEN YEAR OLD CHILD AND PLAYING DISC GOLF TOGETHER.

NOW, HOW MUCH OF THE UNDERBRUSH I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE UNDERBRUSH.

I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF SIMMONS PARK EITHER WAY BACK WHEN.

AND I.

I SEE A USE FOR IT.

I JUST HOPE THEY YOU CAN DEVELOP THE INTEREST IN DOING IT.

AND IT'S ALSO DECENT ENOUGH THAT YOU WOULD TAKE A WALK THERE SO IT HAS THE OPEN PATHWAYS THAT YOU COULD WALK AND NOT BE AFRAID TO GO INTO STEP ON A RATTLESNAKE OR SOMETHING, WHICH IS A BIG CONCERN RIGHT NOW THROUGH THAT PROPERTY.

YEAH. SO I'M ACTUALLY MORE IN FAVOR THAN NOT IN FAVOR OF A DISC GOLF COURSE AND.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT MORE RESEARCH TOGETHER TO GIVE YOU GUYS MORE INFORMATION TO TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.

IT WILL HAVE MORE POTENTIAL AS GETTING PEOPLE OUTSIDE AND BEING TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY FAMILIES.

YEAH. THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU. I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION.

GO AHEAD. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

WE BUILT ONE IN SPALDING COUNTY, WHERE I'M FROM, TEN, 15 YEARS AGO, AND IT GETS UTILIZED BY LOCAL RESIDENTS, WHICH WAS A GREAT IDEA.

I'M NOT. I'M NOT I'M KIND OF IFFY ON THE SITE LOCATION, BUT IF THAT IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF WHERE THE CURRENT TRAILS ARE AT SIMMONS

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BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST THE CITY? I MEAN, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT AND ARE ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES REALLY AREN'T FUNDED WELL ENOUGH HERE.

AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT WE CAN'T KEEP UP.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RESEARCH.

I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR YOU TODAY.

I DIDN'T WANT TO GO INTO ALL THAT IF IT WAS NOT PALATABLE TO THE BOARD.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US? NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. LAURIE HEMKE 751 BARRINGTON DRIVE, FERNANDINA BEACH.

AND I DO REMEMBER A LOT OF THE FACES IN 2019 WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SIMMONS PARK.

BUT I DO WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS PROJECT.

I'M ALWAYS APPRECIATIVE OF GROUPS THAT WANT TO PROMOTE RECREATION AND CERTAINLY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

WE DO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'M SURE THAT IF WE STARTED TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, THEY WOULD GO BACK AND START USING THE WORDS PASSIVE PARK.

AND THAT WAS THE EXPECTATION.

HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO FINISH ANY OF THE TRAILS? NO, BUT I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE CAN POINT OUT.

A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH BUDGET OF COURSE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD POINT OUT IS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP WAS DESTROYING UNDERSTORY.

THAT WHAT A LOT OF US NOW KNOW IS THAT THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR A BARRIER ISLAND.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

WE'RE ON A BARRIER ISLAND, NOT JUST ON THE MAINLAND.

SO IT'S NOT GOOD FOR US TO DESTROY THE MAINLAND.

THIS IS ALSO AN AREA THAT'S CONSIDERED A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR, INCLUDING BIRDS.

IF YOU YOU MAY NOT RECALL THIS, BUT THE FAA HAD TO GET INVOLVED WITH US AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT PARK BECAUSE OF THE BIRDS THAT WERE COMING THROUGH.

SO I WOULD JUST REMIND YOU OF ALL OF THAT.

I ALSO I LOVE FERNANDINA, I LOVE THE COUNTY.

BUT WE'RE NOT GOOD AT MAINTENANCE.

WE'RE JUST NOT GOOD AT MAINTENANCE.

WE TRY YOU CAN LOOK AT THE BOARDWALKS, YOU CAN LOOK A LOT OF ISSUES.

THE COUNTY IS JUST NOW BEGINNING TO DO A BETTER JOB IN THEIR CAPITAL BUDGET OF ACTUALLY ADDING LINE ITEMS FOR CAPITAL BUDGETS.

BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

AND SO TO THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO GOOD MAINTENANCE HERE, WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT DOES TO OUR BUDGET AND THINK ABOUT IN WHAT I CALL HOLISTIC VIEW OF WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON.

AND I ALWAYS THINK AND REMEMBER THE BOARDWALKS.

THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND THE STATE AND THE FEDS ON IS THIS WORD CALLED TRAFFIC AND PARKING.

SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF PARKING THERE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF LEGISLATION THAT'S COMING THROUGH AND STATE STATE STATUTES IS WE ARE VERY ONE CAR DEPENDENT.

THIS BARRIER ISLAND CAN'T HANDLE MUCH MORE ONE CAR APPROACH.

WORKING WITH THE COUNTY IS A WONDERFUL IDEA BECAUSE IT HELPS US ALL.

WE NEED MORE ACTIVITIES OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND AGAIN, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT TRAFFIC.

YOU KNOW, WE DO A LOT.

WE'RE TRYING TO RIGHT NOW, I'M SURE SOME OF YOU ARE INVOLVED.

AND I SAW IT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY, THE BIKE AND WALKWAY PROJECT.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE COUNTY AND THE STATE'S APPROACH TO OUR TRAFFIC ISSUES.

BUT IT IS A GOOD IDEA IN TERMS OF RECREATION.

BUT I ASK YOU TO LOOK AT ALL OF THAT.

I ASK YOU TO GET OTHER GROUPS INVOLVED IF IT GOES FORWARD.

BUT RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY THAT I'M OPPOSED TO IT AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO TO THINK THAT WAY, TOO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST SEEKING WHETHER YOU ALL WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD AND GATHER PRICING, GATHER DESIGN INFORMATION, IF YOU WANT US TO COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT OR GIVE YOU EXAMPLES, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO ANYTHING THAT YOU REQUEST.

MAKE A MOTION. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION.

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESEARCHING THIS ITEM, NOT AT SIMMONS PARK, BUT SOMEPLACE ELSE THAT MIGHT BE AMENABLE OR SUITABLE.

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ANY DISCUSSION? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I'M THINKING THAT WE'VE COME TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE ASSUMING THAT ANIMALS WON'T USE THESE CORRIDORS ONCE PEOPLE ARE THERE.

AND I'M THINKING THAT WE'RE MOVING MORE TOWARDS A DIRECTION OF COEXISTING, THAT OUR RESPECT FOR THEM WILL SHOW THAT THEY'RE THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

I HAVE A POND BEHIND MY HOUSE.

WE HAVE EGRETS, WE HAVE HERONS, WE HAVE TURTLES OR THEY'RE WEIRD, BUT DUCKS.

I'LL GO OUTSIDE AND I CAN WALK UP TO THEM.

I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING, BUT THEY BELIEVE THAT WE'RE NOT A DANGER TO THEM AND THAT THAT MAY TAKE TIME, BUT I THINK THAT'S A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE IF WE TURN THE WHOLE ISLAND AND KEEP WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE ANIMALS, I WOULD LIKE TO IF WE HAD SOMEPLACE ELSE TO USE, BUT WE DON'T.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHT.

I'M GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE POSITIVE THAT THIS COULD WORK AND THAT'S IT.

ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I LIKE THAT PROJECT RIGHT THERE AT SIMMONS ROAD.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

THAT'S JUST MY VOTE.

I THINK SIMMONS PARK IS A GREAT PLACE FOR IT.

YEAH, I WOULDN'T NO CONSENSUS.

I CAN'T READ THE ROOM VERY WELL SO IF IT'S OKAY..

WE HAVE A..

MOTION AND A SECOND.. MOTION ON THE..

IF WE COULD TAKE A VOTE BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL IF THERE'S CONSENSUS OR NOT.

I HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH. THE MOTION IS NOT FOR OR AGAINST IT.

IT'S FOR IT, NOT AT SIMMONS PARK.

SO IS THE MOTION. THAT'S CORRECT.

RIGHT. SO IF WE VOTE NO TO THAT, ARE YOU VOTING NO TO IT AT ALL OR.

YES, YOU HEARD IT. SIMMONS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF YOU'RE VOTING ON THIS MOTION AND THEN WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER MOTION IF NECESSARY.

OKAY? OKAY.

WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE? WOULD YOU STATE THE MOTION AGAIN, PLEASE? THE MOTION IS TO HAVE FURTHER RESEARCH DONE ON DISC GOLF, BUT NOT AT SIMMONS PARK.

OKAY, MOTION FAILED.

IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BE OPEN TO VARIOUS AREAS.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO LOOK AT POSSIBLE OTHER AREAS WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT SIMMONS PARK AND DO MORE RESEARCH ON THE VIABILITY OF HAVING DISC GOLF ON THE ISLAND.

I'LL SECOND THAT. WELL, THAT DOESN'T HELP ME MUCH.

WHETHER YOU SHOULD GET A BUDGET WORKED UP OR NOT FROM SIMMONS PARK.

SO CAN YOU ADD THAT TO IT? I MEAN, THEY NEED THEY NEED TO PROCEED WITH GETTING THE COST OF SIMMONS PARK.

OKAY. YOU CAN AMEND THE MOTION.

OKAY. BUT A FRIENDLY.

WOULD THAT BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? YES, TO THE MOTION.

OKAY. THIS IS GETTING A LITTLE COMPLICATED.

I WAS JUST SEEKING CONSENSUS, BUT I CAN'T READ THE ROOM, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO THIS ROUTE.

YEAH. OKAY. SO IF YOU COULD RESTATE YOUR MOTION AND THEN ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

OKAY. WITH THE BUDGET NECESSARY TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS, THAT WE DO MORE RESEARCH ON HAVING A DISC GOLF COURSE HERE ON THE ISLAND, LOOKING AT SIMMONS PARK AND POSSIBLY OTHER AREAS AND AND THE RESULTS OF LOOKING AT OTHER AREAS.

THAT'S IT. I'LL SECOND.

OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.

OKAY. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD AND GET PRICING INFORMATION AND LOOK AT OTHER PROPERTIES AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

[7.1 Parks & Recreation Fees]

[00:40:05]

FORGET THAT MESSING UP ANYTHING.

JUST LEAVE IT.

OH, I CAN'T SEE.

OKAY. CAN I CLOSE THIS? YES. OKAY.

PARKS, RECREATION FEES.

SO AT THE LAST MEETING, WE PRESENTED TWO DIFFERENT FEE STRUCTURES.

THE FIRST ONE WAS THE PROPOSED FEES WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THEN OUR CONSOLIDATED FEE STRUCTURE, WHICH HAD SOME SOME CHANGES IN IT, LIKE MONTH AND MONTH MEMBERSHIPS, ANNUAL MEMBERSHIPS AND SO FORTH.

SO WE DID GET A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

THANK YOU MEMBER CHAPMAN FOR YOUR EMAIL.

YOU FOUND SOME TYPOS IN THERE AND SOME I PUT SOME RESIDENT FEES ON THE NON RESIDENT COLUMN AND THANK YOU FOR FINDING THAT.

SO I FIXED THOSE.

UM, SO JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS BACK AND ASK AGAIN.

I'M JUST SEEKING CONSENSUS OR WE ARE SEEKING CONSENSUS ON WHETHER YOU WOULD AGREE WITH OUR PROPOSED CONSOLIDATED FEES AND SO THAT IF, IF AND WHEN THE COMMISSION REQUESTS OUR FEES, WE CAN SAY HERE, HERE'S THE FEES AND WE DO HAVE PRAC SUPPORT OR WE MAY HAVE PRAC SUPPORT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THESE COUPLE ITEMS. SO WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON OUR RECOMMENDED FEES.

AND SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, OUR RECOMMENDED FEE STRUCTURE IS THE GREEN, THE ONE WITH THE GREEN COLUMNS AND IT SAYS AT THE TOP, PARKS AND RECREATION 2023 PROPOSED CONSOLIDATED FEE STRUCTURE.

AND IT SAYS DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDATION ON THE TOP LEFT.

YOUR LIGHTS ARE ALL ON, DO YOU GUYS HAVE POINTS ABOUT THAT? OH, THANK YOU. YES.

OH, THANK YOU.

AND I WOULD LIKE A NOT JUST CONSENSUS.

I GUESS I WOULD LIKE APPROVAL ON OUR RECOMMENDED FEES SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT TO THE COMMISSION IF YOU SO DO APPROVE AND IF THERE'S ANY EXCEPTIONS.

DO YOU NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS? YES, PLEASE.

YEAH. OKAY. QUESTION.

HOLD ON. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE NEED TO DO THAT FOR DISCUSSION? RIGHT. A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE CAN DO A DISCUSSION AFTER.

SURE YOU CAN DO THAT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED.

IS THERE A SECOND? DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. DISCUSSION.

GO AHEAD MEMBER CHAPMAN.

I'M ASSUMING THAT I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE THAT'S IN THE PACKET.

I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE OR HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE NEEDED TO HANG A BANNER ON LIME AND EIGHTH STREET? TWO. AND IS THERE ANY, LIKE, SPECIAL EQUIPMENT THAT'S NECESSARY, LIKE A LIFT TRUCK OR ? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A LADDER OR A LIFT TRUCK.

AND I GUESS THE THIRD PART OF THAT IS ABOUT HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO DO THAT? THE REASON I'M ASKING IS, ACCORDING TO WHAT I LOOKED AT, THE FEE FOR THAT IS $50.

WELL, YOU WANT TO CHARGE $50 TO DELIVER A HANDICAPPED BEACH WHEELCHAIR.

AND I CAN'T SEE THAT DELIVERING THAT BEACH WHEELCHAIR IS GOING TO TAKE TWO PEOPLE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME BECAUSE THIS SHOULD BE ON A COST BASIS.

I THINK $50 FOR THAT DELIVERY IS BASICALLY OUT OF LINE.

I THINK THEY'RE CHANGING IT TO 25.

OKAY. WELL, THE ONE I LOOKED AT THROUGH THIS PACKET, THAT'S WHAT IT HAD.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT'S TOO LITTLE OR? NO TOO HIGH. TOO HIGH. MUCH TOO HIGH.

WHAT'S TOO HOT? IN ALL TRANSPARENCY, I DO HAVE A HANDICAPPED DAUGHTER AND I AM VERY CONSCIOUS OF HOW THE HANDICAPPED ARE TREATED.

AND I THINK THE CITY ORIGINALLY GETTING $50 TO DELIVER THAT CHAIR WAS REALLY WAY OUT OF LINE.

[00:45:07]

WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF HANDICAPPED PEOPLE WHO CANNOT AFFORD A $50 DELIVERY CHARGE.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER QUOTE IN HERE THAT SAYS THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING THE BENEFITS OF RECREATION TO ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS.

WELL, AGAIN, THAT $50 FEE WOULD DECLINE SOMEBODY WITH A HANDICAP MAYBE FROM GETTING USE OF OUR BEACH.

AND I'M GLAD YOU CHANGED IT.

I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT SEEING THAT.

I LOOKED THROUGH WHAT WAS IN OUR PACKET LAST NIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND HIS POINT.

I WOULD PREFER TO SEE NON RESIDENTS PAY A FEE FOR A HANDICAPPED WHEELCHAIR BECAUSE THEY DON'T PAY TAXES IN THE CITY.

RIGHT. THIS IS FUNDED IN THE CITY.

SO CITY RESIDENTS FINE.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY OUTSIDE THE CITY WE SHOULD BE FUNDING A WHEELCHAIR FOR THEM AT OUR PUBLIC BEACHES.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN, BUT I THINK HIS POINT WAS WELL UNDERSTOOD IN THE CITY.

I UNDERSTAND HIS POINT. A RESIDENT DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY.

I AGREE. RIGHT.

THE FEE SHOULD ALMOST BE TRYING TO KEEP NON RESIDENTS IN THE CITY FROM USING OUR FACILITIES.

YOU KNOW, NOT MAKING IT A DEAL FOR THEM.

YEAH, BUT A WHEELCHAIR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY AND YOU'RE HANDICAPPED IN SOME WAY.

IT JUST DOESN'T IT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT TO ME, AT LEAST FOR THAT ONE THING.

THE WHEELCHAIR.

I THINK THESE ARE SPECIFIC LIKE BEACH THAT GO ON THE SAND WHEELCHAIRS, RIGHT? YEAH. AND PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN OR MAYBE COMING TO VISIT AND WOULDN'T OWN THAT COULD RENT IT TO GET THERE.

OH, I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE FOR.

I WAS HEARING IT AS A DISPARITY OF LIKE, AN INEQUALITY ABOUT WHAT A FEE IS FOR THE DELIVERY.

AND THEN IT WOULD, I WOULD THINK FROM A MAN HOUR STANDPOINT, IT COSTS SUBSTANTIALLY MORE FOR TWO GUYS TO HANG A BANNER THAN IT DOES TO DELIVER THE WHEELCHAIR.

IS THAT WHAT I. YES, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD WAS THE DISPARITY IN THAT COST.

I PROBABLY WOULD SAY THAT BOTH PROBABLY MORE EXPENSIVE TO DO THAN WHAT THE FEE IS GOING TO BE.

AND THAT'S OKAY. YEAH.

YEAH. I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AQUATICS, IT SAYS AN ANNUAL FAMILY MEMBERSHIP IS THERE IS THERE A MEMBERSHIP THAT IS ANNUAL FAMILY THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE AQUATICS OR.

I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT HARD ENOUGH TO SEE IF THERE WAS BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE I SAW.

THERE WE GO. ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP, IT SOUNDS.

IS THERE A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP THAT IS ALL ENCOMPASSING AS AN ANNUAL PASS THAT THEY CAN USE? NO. SO YOU WERE SAYING THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO PAY 770 FOR THE AQUATICS AND THEY'D HAVE TO PAY FOUR AND 95 FOR THE THE WEIGHT ROOM.

THE COMBINATION.

YEAH. SO WE DON'T HAVE A FAMILY OFFERING FOR THE COMBINATION BECAUSE THE KIDS CAN'T USE THE WEIGHT ROOM.

OKAY. SO SO WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT IN THE AQUATICS YOU HAVE A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP WHICH MAY BE 2 OR 3 KIDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THEN MOM AND DAD HAVE TO PAY FOR 95 TO USE THE WEIGHT ROOM. IF THEY WANT A SEPARATE MEMBERSHIP.

JUST SO THE WEIGHT ROOM JUST FOR THE PARENTS, THEY COULD GET ANOTHER ANNUAL PASS FOR THAT OR MIGHT BE MIGHT BE BETTER TO WE'D PROBABLY WORK WITH THEM AT THE FRONT DESK AND SAY, HOW LONG ARE YOUR CHILDREN GOING TO BE WANTING TO USE THE POOL? IS IT JUST THE SUMMER MIGHT DO MONTH TO MONTH FOR THAT? OKAY. AND THEN IF THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE WEIGHT ROOM YEAR ROUND, MAYBE BEFORE OR AFTER WORK, THEN PUT THEM IN AN ANNUAL FOR THAT AND MAKE IT MAKE IT FIT MORE FOR WHAT THEY'RE NEEDING. OKAY. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.

IS THERE AN ALL ENCOMPASSING ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP THAT YOU CAN USE ALL THE FACILITIES, INCLUDING THE POOL? AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ISN'T.

YEAH, IT'S FITNESS AND WEIGHT ROOM IN THE.

AND THE POOL.

OKAY. YEAH.

FITNESS AND WEIGHT ROOM ARE TOGETHER, BUT NOT FOR THE FAMILY OFFERING.

YOU'RE CORRECT. OH, I'M SORRY.

[00:50:01]

YES. OKAY.

I'M SORRY I MISSED THAT ONE.

THAT'S OKAY. ANY MORE.

JUST GO AHEAD.

NO, IT'S NOT GOOD. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY ANY MORE DISCUSSION.

SO. OKAY. CAN WE CALL FOR A VOTE FOR APPROVAL OF THE.

YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? YES. YEP.

YES. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S A BIG DEAL. THANK YOU.

STAFF COMMENTS EIGHT ONE, CURRENT RFP FOR PICKLEBALL PROGRAMING CONTRACTOR.

[8. STAFF COMMENTS]

YES. PICKLEBALL PROGRAMING, CONTRACTOR AND FENCING.

WE'RE GOING TO OPEN BOTH THOSE BIDS ON THURSDAY.

AND THE PICKLEBALL CONTRACTOR IS WELL, BOTH THAT AND THE FENCING.

WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE BIDS, SEE IF HOW MANY BIDS WE GET, HOPE WE GET BIDS.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE COMMITTEE SCORING AND THEN A RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE MADE TO THE CITY COMMISSION.

IT'S ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW FOR JUNE 6TH TO MAKE A SELECTION FOR THE PICKLEBALL CONTRACTOR OR CONTRACTORS AND THEN A CONTRACTOR TO PROVIDE FENCING IN VARIOUS CITY LOCATIONS.

I'VE INCLUDED THOSE IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL.

SO YOU HAVE THAT.

IT'S ACTUAL FENCING, RIGHT? LIKE FENCING? OH, LIKE A PERIMETER FENCE.

AND I'M THINKING THE SAME THING.

I'M SORRY. I'M NOT SORRY.

I'M SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY AGAIN.

SORRY. SINCE IT WAS PERIMETER RECREATION, AND THEN I WAS LIKE, I THINK THIS MAKES MORE SENSE.

PROGRAMING FOR FENCING SOMEDAY.

I WAS LIKE, WOW, THAT'S INTERESTING.

SOMEDAY WE'RE DOING IT ALL IN FERNANDINA TWO OR ACTUALLY THREE OF THEM.

I WANT TO ALSO MENTION TOO, WE JUST OPENED THE BIDS FOR BEACH ACCESS 40, WHICH IS REPLACING THE BOARDS AND HANDRAILS FOR BEACH ACCESS 40. THAT'S I SHOULD HAVE WROTE IT DOWN.

THAT'S I THINK THAT'S GOING TO THE THE COMMISSION SHOOT.

I THINK IT'S IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME MEETING IN JUNE.

I'LL HAVE TO FIND THAT OUT. I CAN GET THAT TO YOU.

BEACH ACCESS 16 THAT'S GOING TO BE REDECKED.

IT'S SET TO BE OPEN ON MAY 23RD.

AND THEN IT JUST HIT THE STREET YESTERDAY.

THE ATLANTIC REC CENTER FOUNDATION STABILIZATION.

THOSE BIDS ARE GOING TO BE OPENED ON JUNE 22ND.

SO A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON IN PARKS AND REC, A LOT OF PUBLIC BIDS RIGHT NOW.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THE BEACH BOX.

HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED INTO USING ANY OF THE LIKE THE FAKE TRACKS? WELL, NOT THERE'S OTHER LIKE HOLLYWOOD.

WELL, YEAH, I OWN TWO BEACH WALKS IN THE CITY AND WE BOTH WE DID THEM BOTH IN WEARDECK AND OUR QUOTES HONESTLY CAME BACK WITH IN SUCH CLOSE NUMBERS OF USING PRESSURE TREATED TO WEARDECK THAT WE WENT WITH THE WEARDECK.

WEARDECK. IS A FORM OF TRACKS.

AND I MEAN IT WAS MORE BUT IT WAS NOT AS DRASTIC AS IT USED TO BE BECAUSE SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN LOOKED INTO BECAUSE REALISTICALLY SHOULD HOLD UP QUITE A BIT LONGER.

IT DOESN'T SPLINTER, DOESN'T GET AS HOT KIND OF ALL OF THAT.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN CONSIDERED? WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING INTO THAT.

OKAY. AND JUST IN AN UNFORMAL DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY ENGINEER, THAT IS BETTER.

THE PRICES HAVE BEEN SO DIFFERENT.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE.

WE GOT QUOTES ON EPAY AND TRACKS AND ALL OF IT, AND IT'S IT'S A NEW PRODUCT, BUT IT'S LOWER IN COST.

AND IT'S I MEAN, WE'VE HAD ONE OF THEM FOR TWO YEARS AND IT LOOKS BRAND NEW.

THAT'S GREAT. YES. YEAH, WE ARE LOOKING INTO THAT.

OKAY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WARRANTY IS ON THAT? I DO NOT KNOW.

OKAY. I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE DOUBLE OR TRIPLE AT LEAST.

BUT YEAH, THEY HAVE LIKE TWO.

THEY HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF COLORS.

THEY HAVE CERTAIN COLORS THAT ARE LIKE GUARANTEED TO NOT GET HOT, TO WALK ON BAREFOOT.

AND I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD PRODUCT.

SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THE QUOTES THAT HAVE COME OUT FOR THE CITY ONES HAVE BEEN PRETTY HIGH AND LIKE WE PAID LESS THAN THAT FOR LONGER ONES IN A BETTER PRODUCT. SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN CONSIDERED.

SO YEAH, NO, DEFINITELY.

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

SO THOSE ARE THE OPEN BIDS.

BID OPENING DATES ALSO 8.3.

THE GENERAL UPDATE. I JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO BE AWARE TOM IS A TASK FORCE MEMBER.

I'M A STAFF. I THINK THEY CALL ME CITY STAFF JUST IN SUPPORT FOR THIS FOR THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN TASK FORCE.

I JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE THIS PRESS RELEASE SO YOU COULD SEE THE SCHEDULE IF YOU WANTED TO PARTICIPATE, IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE US ANY INSIGHT OR FEEDBACK.

IT'S BASICALLY JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THERE'S GREAT CONNECTIVITY.

WHEN YOU'RE ON YOUR BIKE, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, OR WALKING, EVEN ROLLERBLADING, ROLLERBLADING, YOUR PATHWAYS ARE SAFE.

[00:55:02]

SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING, I'M SURE THESE MEETINGS ARE PUBLIC.

THERE ARE SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THEN TOM AND I CAN SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK WITH THE TASK FORCE AS WELL IF YOU'D LIKE.

I CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? GO AHEAD. I WOULD ONLY BECAUSE MY NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR ACTUALLY GOT HIT AT THIS INTERSECTION.

BUT I SAW IT MYSELF HAPPENING LAST ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO AT SIMMONS AND 14TH STREET NEAR THE PARK, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY HAVE THOSE CRAZY FLASHING LIGHTS. I HOPE THAT THEY'RE REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT THOSE.

PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO GO THROUGH A FOUR WAY STOP.

THEY WANT TO FLAG EACH OTHER ON.

AND THEN EVERY EVERYBODY HESITATES AND THEN EVERYBODY MOVES AT THE SAME TIME.

AND I ALMOST SAW THIS GUY GET HIT.

AND IT'S SO FRIGHTENING.

AND THAT INTERSECTION, SPECIFICALLY THAT ONE, AND WHERE WE HAVE ON ATLANTIC, WHERE IT GOES TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, THOSE CRAZY FLASHING LIGHTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

YEAH. I'M NOT LOOKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET FOR THAT SIGN.

I'M LOOKING, YOU KNOW, ON THE ROAD, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE FOR SIGNS AND TWICE THAT, I SAW THAT LIGHT FLASHING.

BUT IT WAS, IT WAS AFTER I HAD GONE PAST THE SPACE WHERE I SHOULD HAVE STOPPED, WHERE I SAW.

IT SEEMS UNNATURAL TO ME THAT IT'S IN THE MIDDLE.

SO I HOPE THAT BEYOND THE CONNECTIVITY PARTS THAT THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE SAFETY THINGS AS WE GET MORE PEOPLE DRIVING, I, I TOTALLY RECOMMEND THAT.

MAY 23RD WE WILL BE AT THE PECK CENTER.

AND IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME, PLEASE COME.

A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED ARE MORE SAFETY ISSUES.

I PRESENTED TO THE BOARD A DETAILED OF HOW MANY ACCIDENTS HAVE OCCURRED WITH PEDESTRIANS, WITH BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES WITH CARS.

THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND I JUST BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES IN THIS CITY WHERE THERE IS NO SIDEWALKS FOR BIKES TO GO ON NOR PEOPLE TO WALK ON.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE MORE EDUCATIONAL DOCUMENTATION THAT WE CAN GIVE TO THE CITY TO LOOK AT THESE ISSUES IS IMPORTANT.

AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING AT THESE MEETINGS IS FORMIDABLE IN THE IDEA THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING ACTUAL THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST THREE YEARS IN OUR CITY.

AND I THINK THAT BASED ON WHAT THE DIRECTOR HAS SAID TO US, I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE BECAUSE WE'RE PART OF PARKS AND REC, IT'S PART OF OUR DUTY TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS FOR OUR SAFETY, FOR OUR KIDS AND FOR THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET ON TO RECREATIONAL PROPERTIES, BEACHES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE BOTH HAVE QUESTIONS DOWN HERE.

LIGHTS ON. GO.

IF I CAN BACK UP JUST FOR A SECOND TO PICKLEBALL, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COACH TRAINING AND A PICKLEBALL PROGRAMING CONTRACT? THEY SEEM TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

IT'S THE CONNOTATION, I GUESS, SPECIFICALLY ASKING FOR IS THIS PERSON GOING TO MANAGE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AS.

AS WELL AS GET LESSONS OR JUST GIVE LESSONS.

THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THE PROGRAMING ON THE COURTS THAT WE MAINTAIN AND MANAGE.

SO NOT JUST INSTRUCTION, I MEAN, THEY'LL SAY WHAT? WHO PLAYS WHAT DAY.

IF IT'S A MEN'S DAY OR MEN'S TWO HOURS, THEY'RE GOING TO ASSIST US WITH THAT.

YES, WE ALREADY HAVE THINGS IN PLACE NOW THAT THEY'RE SEEMING TO BE WORKING AS FAR AS DROP IN PLAY AND THAT SORT OF THING, THEY'RE GOING TO NOT NECESSARILY TAKE OVER THE COURTS AT CENTRAL PARK.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

THAT'S MOSTLY THE INSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT INSTRUCTION AT CENTRAL PARK, NOT SAYING THAT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE TIMES WHERE THERE'S NO ONE THERE EVERY WEEK.

YOU KNOW? I KNOW.

I KNOW. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR SOME OF THAT TIME.

BUT IF THERE ISN'T, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO TAKE THE COURTS AWAY THAT ARE ALREADY CONGESTED AND MAKE THEM MORE CONGESTED.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE ARE LOOKING FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL OR INDIVIDUALS TO HELP WITH SOME TOURNAMENT PLAY CLINICS AND, YOU KNOW, MORE PROGRAMING, BUT NOT TAKING AWAY AND CREATING MORE CONGESTION IN CENTRAL PARK.

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I WANT TO ITERATE WHAT OUR CHAIR SAID AND I AGREE, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL ATTEND THAT.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

MY SON WAS HIT ON A BICYCLE BY A VEHICLE ON BAILEY AND EIGHTH STREET, JUST RAN INTO MY SON AND PUSHED HIM INTO EIGHTH STREET WITH ONCOMING TRAFFIC COMING RIGHT AT HIM.

AND SO JUST IN THAT PARTICULAR SPOT, IT'S SO DANGEROUS BECAUSE CARS ARE JUST THE FIRST THING WHEN THEY COME UP TO BAILEY ROAD AND EIGHTH STREET, THEY ARE LOOKING LEFT SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE THAT RIGHT.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN LOOKING RIGHT.

THE FIRST THING THEY'RE LOOKING IS SEEING IF I CAN MAKE THAT QUICK.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S HOW MY SON GOT HIT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT.

SO I THINK BRINGING THAT UP AND US ATTENDING THAT IS THAT MAY 23RD, I'M ALL IN FAVOR FOR THAT.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT TASK FORCE.

THANK YOU. JUST ONE MORE COMMENT, ANOTHER JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT.

AS AS A COMMUNITY, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF NEGLIGENCE AND STUPID THERE IS AMONG PEOPLE. I'M SORRY.

I MEAN, WE'RE DOING, I THINK, A PRETTY GOOD JOB.

I KNOW THE FIRST THING I THINK OF IS WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO FIND THE ROOM TO PUT IN BIKE PATHS OR PEDESTRIAN PATHS? I MEAN, LOOK AT SADLER.

THERE'S LIKE A FOOT BIKE PATH THERE THAT I WOULDN'T GO ON FOR $1 MILLION, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT CAN BE FIXED.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU FIND A WAY SOMEONE COMES UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD AT LEAST HELP ALLEVIATE THE CONGESTION OF PEOPLE AND DRIVERS.

I DIDN'T SAY THAT RIGHT. BUT THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF MEANT.

I THINK AND THIS IS THE ONLY COMMENT I'LL MAKE ON THIS WHOLE ISSUE.

IT'S A TASK FORCE.

IT'S LOOKING AT THE OVERALL PICTURE OF FERNANDINA AND HOW WE CAN ADDRESS IT AND GOING FORWARD.

THEY HAVE BROUGHT IN A LOT OF NICE PEOPLE THAT KNOW DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION AND WHAT CAN BE DONE AND WHAT CAN'T BE DONE.

SO I THINK LET'S GIVE THE TASK FORCE THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SEE WHAT WE COME UP WITH.

RIGHT. THANK YOU.

STAFFING UPDATE. OH, THAT'S IT.

THAT ONE. SO WE HAVE NINE CANDIDATES OR NINE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE DEPARTMENT FROM ALL DIFFERENT DIVISIONS AND HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE DID MAKE AN OFFER TO A NEW PARK SUPERINTENDENT AND THEY DID ACCEPT.

SO WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT INDIVIDUAL START IN THE NEXT THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

SO NINE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE DEPARTMENT.

AND JUST AS FAR AS VACANCIES, JUST SO YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE YOU KNOW SOMEBODY, WE HAVE A PART TIME SENIOR LIFEGUARD, A PART TIME LIFEGUARD, SIX SEASONAL LIFEGUARD POSITIONS, ONE SEASONAL CHILD CARE PROFESSIONAL POSITION.

THOSE ARE PART TIME, FULL TIME SENIOR MAINTENANCE TECH IN PARKS AND A FULL TIME MAINTENANCE TECH MAINTENANCE TECH, ONE, 2 OR 3 IN PARKS VACANT AS WELL. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE.

WE'RE LOOKING BETTER. WE'RE GETTING SOME SEASONAL POSITIONS FILLED, WHICH IS GREAT FOR OUR PROGRAMING, FOR OUR YOUTH COMING INTO THE SUMMER.

IF I MAY GO INTO THE NEXT OR IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON STAFFING, GO AHEAD AS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO I WAS ACTUALLY WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE VACANCIES THAT WERE GOING ON.

SO WHAT'S CHANGED? PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS TRANSFERRING INTO PARKS AND REC.

IS THAT WHAT I THE NINE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE GETTING? OH, THEY ARE. WE HAVE WE HAVE TWO SEASONAL LIFEGUARDS COMING IN.

WE'VE GOT A PART TIME CHILDCARE PROFESSIONAL.

FOUR SEASONAL CHILD CARE PROFESSIONALS.

AND THEN WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE TECH ONE COMING IN STARTING IN ABOUT A MONTH.

SO WHAT HAS CHANGED? HAS SOMETHING CHANGED IN THE MARKET OR HAVE YOU GUYS MADE SOME CHANGES TO WHAT YOU CAN OFFER TO GET SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE IN? WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY CHANGES.

NOTHING. WE'VE JUST TRYING TO ADVERTISE AND WORD'S GETTING AROUND.

OKAY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE HAD IT'S NOT JUST YOU ALL.

EVERYBODY'S HAVING STRUGGLES.

YES. FILLING POSITIONS.

AND I JUST WAS CONCERNED, SO I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS CHANGING SO WE CAN DO MORE OF THAT.

I THINK AS FAR AS THE SEASONAL POSITIONS ARE CONCERNED, I THINK THAT AGE IS THINKING, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO FOR THE SUMMER? AND NOW THEY'RE THEY'RE APPLYING.

THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU. SO THE I WANT TO PUT ON HERE, ALICIA IS WORKING VERY HARD, ALONG WITH MARY HAMBURG, ON RESTRUCTURING OUR PARKS AND RECREATION WEB PAGE. AND SO IT'S IN GHOST FORM RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT.

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AND SO THE GOAL IS FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU ALL THE NEW STRUCTURE AND ORGANIZATION OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION WEB PAGE WITHIN THE CITY WEBSITE.

SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT'S COMING.

AND THEN FINALLY, FOR OUR STAFF COMMENTS FOR THE JUNE MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CEMETERY AND WE'RE MEETING WITH THE RESTORATION FOUNDATION TO TALK WITH THEM ABOUT WE'RE LOOKING AT UPDATING THE CEMETERY ORDINANCE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A POSSIBLE SECURITY FENCE IN FRONT OF THE CEMETERY TO ADDRESS MULTIPLE CONCERNS.

WE'RE GOING TO ENGAGE WITH THE FRIENDS OF BOSQUE BELLO WHO HAVE COME TOGETHER AGAIN.

AND WE'RE GETTING CITY STAFF INVOLVED AS WELL.

SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE MUCH AS FAR AS DISCUSSING THE CEMETERY, BUT IT IS A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO, JUST ASK SCOTT.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.

SO YOU'RE WELL VERSED IN WHAT WE'RE DOING AND SEEKING YOUR INPUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE THINGS.

MAINLY THE ORDINANCE UPDATE IS COMING AND THE IDEA OF A FENCE IN FRONT OF BOSS BELLO BUT WAS JUST A CONCEPT RIGHT NOW.

SO DOES THIS INCLUDE DISCUSSION AGAIN ABOUT A COLUMBARIUM? IT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION, YES, ONLY BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING THAT WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE.

AND SO WE HAVE TO BRING THAT DISCUSSION BACK.

BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO DO.

WE'RE BRINGING ALL THE GROUPS TOGETHER AND WE'RE GOING TO START JUST HAVING DISCUSSIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I DID HAVE SOMETHING ON THE WEB PAGE.

CONSTRUCTION. ARE THERE GOING TO BE ANY ABILITIES FOR NON ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO TRANSLATE THE WEB PAGE? YOU CAN TRANSLATE THE WEB PAGE NOW, I BELIEVE, RIGHT? I BELIEVE WE, ISN'T THERE SOMETHING ON THE TOP? I THINK I DID THAT TRANSLATE.

I THINK THAT'S NOT THAT WILL CONTINUE BEING THE SAME.

THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE IN ANY WAY.

YEAH. OKAY. FOR IT WAS AN ISSUE FOR A WHILE WITH THE CITY.

I HAD BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE I HAD SOME HISPANIC FRIENDS COME HERE AND THEY TRIED TO GET ON THE WEBSITE AND THEY COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT.

AND THAT WAS JUST MY CONCERN, MAKING SURE THAT, YEAH, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'LL CONFIRM THAT TOO.

GREAT QUESTION. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS.

LET ME JUST. OKAY.

WELL, WAIT. SHADE STRUCTURES.

OH, SHADE STRUCTURES, YES.

SO WE HAVE ENGAGED WITH A CONTRACTOR.

THE MAIN BEACH SHADE STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE UP BY NEXT MONDAY.

THIS MONDAY, NEXT WEEK.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MONDAY. MONDAY.

OKAY. THERE'S BEEN QUITE AN ORDEAL ON THAT SHADE STRUCTURE AND WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN.

SCOTT IS DOING EVERYTHING HE POSSIBLY CAN.

SO THANK YOU, SCOTT, FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

MONDAY, MONDAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I KNOW IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE SHADED OUT THERE.

IT'S GETTING HOT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TEMPERATURES TODAY.

SO. OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELCOME.

[9. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE WALK AT EGAN'S CREEK.

I NOTICED THAT AGAIN, SOME SECTIONS OF THE SIDEWALK HAVE BEEN BROKEN.

AND SCOTT, YOU EXPLAINED THAT IT'S PROBABLY WHEN THEY'RE SERVICING THE LIFT STATION.

TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, WHEN IS IT UTILITIES, WHEN THEY ARE IN THERE AND THEY BREAK THE SIDEWALK? DOES THE REPAIR OF THAT COME OUT OF THEIR BUDGET OR OUR BUDGET? WELL, WE'RE ALL FAMILY, BUT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME OUT OF OURS SINCE IT'S IN A PARK.

BUT LIKE, WE ALL WORK TOGETHER.

SO WE SCOTT WAS JUST TELLING ME THAT WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON REINFORCING THOSE AREAS WHERE THEY NEED TO BRING THEIR EQUIPMENT.

SO PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE A NOT A FOUR INCH POUR, BUT A SIX INCH POUR AND REINFORCE ON THAT CONCRETE.

THE OTHER THING, THERE'S SECTIONS THAT ARE BROKEN AND FOR AT LEAST A WEEK, THERE'S NO CONE THERE. THERE'S NO BARRIER THERE.

WHEN I SAT UP HERE AS A COMMISSIONER, ONE OF THE THINGS I HATED TO DO WAS VOTE ON AN INSURANCE SETTLEMENT BECAUSE SOMEBODY TRIPPED.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

IF ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS BREAKS THAT SIDEWALK, WHY ISN'T THERE A SOMETHING THERE TO WARN IT AND TO REDUCE OUR LIABILITY? THIS HAS BEEN LIKE THAT FOR OVER A WEEK.

WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. THANK YOU.

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THE LATEST IS FOR SOCCER.

AGAIN, I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER BECAUSE I'VE, I'M HOPING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO STEP UP AND PARTNER WITH US SOMEHOW. BUT I ALSO THINK THE.

OKAY. THE EXPENSE OF THE AIRPORT SITUATION, EVEN IF WE DO THAT FOR A SHORT TERM, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

BUT ALSO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? BECAUSE EVEN NOW THEY'RE AT CAPACITY OUT THERE FOR THE NUMBER OF GAMES AND THE NUMBER OF KIDS OUT THERE.

SO I FEEL LIKE ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING OUGHT TO BE MORE LONG TERM.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE AT THE AIRPORT.

AM I CORRECT THAT TO EXPAND IN ANY KIND OF WAY, EVEN IF IT WAS AT A LOT OF MONEY LIKE IT IS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT? AND SO I WANTED TO ASK YOU GUYS, WHAT IS THE LATEST THAT YOU'VE HEARD ON THOSE DISCUSSIONS? AND ALSO, ARE THERE ANY CONSIDERATIONS BEING LOOKED AT OR RECOMMENDED FOR A LONGER TERM SOLUTION FOR GROWTH OF THOSE PROGRAMS? SO I WISH I HAD MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU, BUT I MET WITH THE CITY ENGINEER, INTERIM CITY MANAGER JUST TODAY, AND HE INVITED ME TO ATTEND AND HELP PREPARE FOR A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS JUST THIS.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION FOR YOU YET BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GATHER IT AND THEN HELP HELP THE DISCUSSION AT THE COMMISSION WORKSHOP.

AND I DON'T KNOW THE DATE OF THE WORKSHOP.

SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL GET ALL THAT INFORMATION.

I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THE WORKSHOP IS, IF ANY WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND.

AND THEN ANY, ANY, ANY INFORMATION THAT'S BEING PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSION TO HELP WITH THE DISCUSSION AT THE WORKSHOP.

I'LL PROVIDE THAT TO ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL.

THANKS FOR ALL YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING.

THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING WE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IF PEOPLE HAD AN INTEREST IN HAVING A WORKSHOP AMONG OURSELVES TO ASK QUESTIONS OF EACH OTHER OR WHERE WE ARE, AND ALSO TO GIVE SOME HISTORY OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD BY PREVIOUS BOARDS HERE.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA.

I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT IT THIS TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S STILL AN INTEREST IN DOING THAT OR NOT.

AND CAN WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA OR HAVE YOU COME UP WITH A DATE FOR A WORKSHOP? SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS, DOES ANYONE WANT A WORKSHOP? THAT'S THE QUESTION.

AND OUT LOUD IS ANYONE.

CAN YOU JUST. WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE OF IT? FOR. MOSTLY FOR THE NEW PEOPLE.

TO GIVE THEM MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WHAT WE COULDN'T GET DONE, AND WHAT THERE'S IN ALL THE BOARDS, THERE'S NO CONTINUITY.

SO AT LEAST FOR YOU TO SEE WHAT THE PREVIOUS BOARD HAD PUT DOWN AND ALSO THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE END OF THE YEAR, BECAUSE WE REPORT TO THE CITY COMMISSIONERS AND I GAVE A REPORT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING AND WHAT WE HAD ACCOMPLISHED, THINGS LIKE THAT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THAT, IT WOULD NOT BE A LENGTHY WORKSHOP.

BUT YOU'VE BEEN HERE THE LONGEST.

YOU WOULD HAVE MORE TO SAY AND GIVE INFORMATION TO THE NEWER PEOPLE TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED.

I FOUND IT NOT EASY TO COME IN AND AND BE TOTALLY.

FLUSTERED ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN SAID, WHAT HASN'T BEEN SAID, WHAT HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO? THINGS LIKE THAT.

MAY I OFFER A SUGGESTION? YEAH. WHAT IF WE PUT TOGETHER AS A DEPARTMENT, MAYBE THE LAST FIVE YEARS THE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES THAT WERE VOTED ON BY THIS BOARD? ARE YOU OFF DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE? NO, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET THAT INFORMATION, AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ALL OF YOU TO HAVE THAT.

SO WHAT IF WE PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT'S IN THIS YEAR, WE DID THIS AND THIS YEAR WE DID THAT AND GO BACK FIVE YEARS AND HAVE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE THINKING. SURE.

IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, THAT'S FINE.

I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND KIND OF KNOW WHAT WAS DECIDED AND KIND OF SEE WHAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON.

AND THEN WE COULD DECIDE IF WE WANTED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON SOME OF IT TO KNOW KIND OF WHAT WE NEED, LIKE WHAT WOULD BE USEFUL TO DISCUSS GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE SOME OF IT MIGHT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEALT WITH.

YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO SAY, THIS BOARD CHANGES, THE COMMISSION CHANGES ONE OF THE PROJECTS AND STUFF.

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SO GIVING EVERYBODY A HISTORY WOULD BE GREAT AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT IF WE NEED TO HAVE A SO WE CAN PUT IT ON AS A DISCUSSION ITEM MEETING.

OKAY. RIGHT.

I JUST THINK IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR THEM.

BUT IF IT'S NOT THAT HARD, BY ALL MEANS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS PART OF THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR PROJECTS. RIGHT.

WE DID AN EXTENSIVE MASTER PLAN THAT HAS GONE NOWHERE.

YEP. WE DID VARIOUS OTHER THINGS THAT I MEAN, IT'S LIKE SO MANY THINGS IN THIS CITY, IT GETS DONE AND IT'S LIKE ON THE SHELF.

AND SO AS PART OF THAT HISTORY, THIS IS WHAT THE BOARD DID AND THIS IS WHAT IT RESULTED IN BECAUSE I'M AFRAID TOO MANY TIMES THIS IS WHAT WE DID AND IT RESULTED IN NOTHING.

SO IF YOU COULD PUT THAT IN THERE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY KEY.

RIGHT. THERE'S ONE THING, JUST SO YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IN THE PAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS, IS WE WERE EACH ASSIGNED SEVERAL OF THE PARKS TO GO AND TALK ABOUT DOES IT HAVE A BATHROOM, IS IT HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE? DO THEY HAVE DOOR OPENERS? WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? WE TOOK PICTURES AND WE PUT THE PICTURES WITH EACH OF THE PARKS SO ANYBODY CAN LOOK AND SEE.

DO THEY HAVE A PAVILION THERE? DO THEY HAVE PICNIC TABLES THERE? WE DID THAT.

AND NOW WE DON'T KNOW.

AND I THINK THAT IS A GREAT RESOURCE.

I HAVE THAT, AND I DO APPRECIATE IT.

WELL, THAT'S GREAT.

SO THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU GO, GOD, THAT THAT COULD BE USED, YOU KNOW.

SO ANYWAY, THAT THAT'S AN EXAMPLE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AS THE NEWEST MEMBER. I AGREE.

I THINK I'D LOVE TO LEARN FROM EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS AND ALL THE PAST THINGS.

I THINK THAT'D BE HELPFUL AS HECK FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME JUST JUMPING ON THE BOARD.

OKAY. SO JUST SO ALL OF YOU ALL KNOW, WE USED TO CHOOSE OUR OWN MEMBERS ON THE BOARD.

THE BOARD VOTED FOR MEMBERS, NOT THE CITY COMMISSION.

YEAH. CORRECT. YEAH.

SO WE'LL ADD TO THE NEXT TO THE JUNE AGENDA PAST FIVE YEAR ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF PRAC AND NON ACCOMPLISHMENTS TOO, RIGHT? YES. RIGHT.

NOT A FIVE YEAR HISTORY OF PRAC.

THE HISTORY OF CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? IS THERE ANY MOVEMENT ON BATHROOMS AT HICKORY? I THINK THAT HAS BEEN TABLED AS WE FIGURE OUT WHERE SOCCER IS HEADED AT YBOR.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS AN INITIATIVE OF THAT'S AN EITHER OR.

I DON'T THINK IT'S AN EITHER OR.

I THINK IT'S WE GOT TO DO ONE THING AT A TIME, OKAY? NOT EITHER OR. IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED.

IT'S RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY.

IT'S NEEDED. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? I JUST HAVE TWO.

JUNE 1ST TO JUNE 4TH, BABE RUTH WILL BE HOSTING THE DISTRICTS FOR NORTHEAST FLORIDA.

IT IS A BIG TO DO.

IT WILL BE A TEN AND UNDER TOURNAMENT FOR THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF FLORIDA.

I THINK ON A SIDE NOTE, WE'LL WIN IT.

BUT ON THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW OFF THE BALLPARK.

WE WILL HAVE NEW SCOREBOARDS UP THAT WAS PAID FOR BY BABE RUTH AND PUT UP BY THE CITY.

SO WE HAVE REALLY PARTNERED WITH THE CITY IN TRYING TO IMPROVE OUR BASEBALL DIAMONDS IN FERNANDINA.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I HAD I WOULD TOTALLY ASK CATHERINE TO ASK THAT THE FRIENDS OF BOB GIVE A PRESENTATION TO US WHEN YOU ARE READY TO MAKE THAT THEIR IDEAS AND EVERYTHING TO US IN THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY. PLEASE.

UH, IT I'VE HEARD SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THEY WANT TO DO.

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THEY HAVE TAKEN A BURDEN OFF THE CITY TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS.

AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD REALLY HEAR THE WHOLE PRESENTATION.

SO EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD AND WE CAN MAKE A MAJOR PUSH IN GETTING THIS ACCOMPLISHED AS SOON AS GETTING IT STARTED AT LEAST. IT'S A LONG PROCESS AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

BUT I REALLY THINK IT'S A PROCESS THAT WE SHOULD BE PART OF ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND GOING FORWARD.

SO.

YES. AS A PART OF THAT, THE HISTORY OF THIS BOARD WITH THE COLUMBARIUM SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED. YEAH, THAT PROJECT WAS MOVING FORWARD AND EVENTUALLY DIED AND THE FRIENDS OF BOSQUE BELLO WALKED AWAY. AND I THINK THE HISTORY OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE FRIENDS OF BOSQUE BELLO AND THIS BOARD NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

OKAY. I THINK THIS BOARD SHOWS A LOT OF LEADERSHIP WHEN IT COMES TO UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN. AND I THINK THIS IS A MAJOR PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO AND WORKED ON AS AS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THIS BOARD. I THINK IT'S VITAL THAT WE GO FORTH AND LISTEN TO THIS PRESENTATION AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND BE PREPARED TO GIVE THE BACKING.

IF WE ALL AGREE IT'S WHAT WE THINK WE SHOULD DO AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU. WITHOUT ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

I CLOSED THE MEETING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.