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[9. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS/COMMENTS]
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SPOTS DEDICATED TO PEOPLE IN THE MARINA.
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EVERY MARINA ON THE COAST, FOR THAT MATTER, THAT I KNOW OF HAS DEDICATED PARKING FOR THE BOATERS.[00:13:23]
SO IT'S NOT CONCEIVABLE TO FORCE PEOPLE TO WANDER AROUND TRYING TO FIND A PARKING SPOT SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE SALES OR ICE OR FOOD OR ANYTHING TO THEIR BOAT.DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE PARKING? WELL, I WAS HAPPY THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO DELAY IT.
I WANNA COMMEND THEM FOR DOING THAT, I THOUGHT THAT WAS OUTSTANDING.
WELL, SOMEHOW THE CRA WAS THE ONE THAT RECOMMENDED IT, BUT.
WELL. JEREMIAH SAID, WHY DID YOU RECOMMEND THAT? THAT'S NOT EXACTLY THE WAY THE CRA READS.
THE CRA FOR 20 YEARS AGO, BASICALLY THERE WAS A HEAVY DISCUSSION 20 YEARS AGO BEFORE THE CRA ABOUT A WORKING WATERFRONT, AND THERE WAS A FEAR THAT THE WORKING WATERFRONT WOULD GO AWAY.
AND ONE OF THE PROVISOS AT THAT TIME WAS THAT IT WOULD NEVER GO AWAY.
THE WORKING WATERFRONT WOULD ALWAYS BE THERE BECAUSE THAT IS THE HISTORY OF FERNANDINA.
AND IT ALSO SAYS THAT THE CRA DOCUMENT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS AND VERY FLEXIBLE.
AND THEN IT DOES SAY MORE GREEN SPACE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
SO IT'S ACCORDING TO HOW YOU READ THE CRA AND HOW YOU WANT IT TO READ WHICH PARTS THE CRA TO USE.
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CAN I HAVE A COPY? BECAUSE I WANTED TO PUT THE WORD OUT THAT THEY WERE TAKING ALL THESE SPOTS AWAY.AND I SAID, WELL, THIS IS THE CRA'S RECOMMENDATION.
AND I SAID, DID YOU DO YOU AGREE WITH IT? HE SAID, NO. I SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU SAY SO? SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
WELL, I'VE TALKED TO MEMBERS OF THE CRA.
I THINK IT WAS A GOOD MOVE ON THAT, YOU KNOW, TO LEAVE A AND B ALONE.
AND NOW I THINK IT WAS A GOOD MOVE TO LEAVE A AND B ALONE.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK, THEY'RE ADDING MORE SPACES TO BEGIN WITH.
I THINK IT WAS LIKE 18 SPACES OR SOMETHING.
SO WE NEED PARKING AND WE NEED TO RECOUP AS MANY AS WE CAN.
ANYWAY, THERE'S SPACE DOWN THERE FOR THE PARK TO BASICALLY PICNIC OR ANYTHING UNDER THE TREES.
NOW, ONE OF THE COMMENTS BROUGHT UP AT THE COMMISSION MEETING WAS THAT THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS FREE PARKING, THAT EVERY TAXPAYER IN THIS CITY PAYS FOR THE PARKING BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE PAVED, IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED.
AND SO ALL THAT BELONGS TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
SO WE'RE ALREADY PAYING THE METERED COST ONCE A YEAR.
BUT FOR PEOPLE GOING ON ANY OF THE CHARTER BOATS, FOR THEM TO COME FROM 7TH STREET TO THE MARINA, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET THERE? RIGHT. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO GO ON THE CHARTERS CAN'T MAKE IT THAT FAR.
SO UNLESS WE PROVIDE A SHUTTLE OR SOMETHING ELSE.
IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S GOOD TO EXPAND BUT NOT TAKE.
WELL AND THEN SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO DRAG AND ALL THAT.
SO WELL, IF WE WANT TO KEEP IT A WORKING PORT, YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.
OKAY. ALSO AT THE MEETING WE JUST HAD THE SUBJECT OF GOING BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND ASKING THEM TO RESERVE TWO SPACES DURING THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL FOR A COAST GUARD CUTTER AND A SHRIMP BOAT, AND THAT I WILL GO BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND TALK TO THEM AND I WILL JUST AS SOON AS I DETERMINE FROM SOMEBODY WHAT'S HOW MUCH SPACE WE NEED AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND IT.
AND ALSO, I'M STILL WORKING ON THE ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE FEDERAL CHANNEL SOUTH OF A-10, WHICH IS SOUTH OF THE TURNING BASIN INTO CITY PORT, YOU KNOW, SO I'M WORKING ON THAT AND I'LL BE WHEN I GET IT COMPLETED, I'LL GET IT TO MS. CHAPMAN AND THEN SHE CAN BRING IT FOR, YOU KNOW, SEND IT TO EVERYBODY SO WE DON'T VIOLATE THE SUNSHINE LAW.
OKAY. ANY NEW BUSINESS? [INAUDIBLE].
DID YOU PUT IT IN THE BOX? I DID. I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE.
DO YOU DO YOU WANT ME TO GET IT? THE REQUEST TO SPEAK? YES. SO DO YOU KEEP IT? I USUALLY KEEP IT IN THE BOX AS FAR AS I KNOW.
OKAY. WHAT'S THE TOPIC? NORMALLY YOU'LL BRING IT UP TO THE CHAIR AND HIS ADDRESS.
YEAH. USUALLY YOU BRING IT OVER HERE SO WE CAN SEE.
YEAH. THANK YOU, THOUGH. I GET IT.
SIR? ALAN MILLS, 1425 BROOME STREET.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN IN YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT THE RATES THERE.
WE'VE BEEN AT PAYING FOR RIGHT OUT OF YEAR NOW ABOUT $25 A FOOT.
WHAT KIND OF PROFIT HAVE WE MADE? IS THE MARINA? I KNOW THERE'S A NEGATIVE THERE, BUT HOW MUCH OF A NEGATIVE? I KNOW THAT BEFORE I EVEN CAME OR IAN CAME, WE WERE LOOKING GOOD.
BUT THEN WE LOST ALL FUEL CELLS DURING THE TRANSIT SEASON.
SO HOW ARE WE LOOKING UP UNTIL IAN FINANCIALLY WISE, WITH THE INCREASE OF RATES WENT FROM $19 TO $25? AND WHERE ARE WE ON THE MONEY THAT WE MADE ON INCREASING THE DOCKAGE TO TODAY? I DON'T HAVE THOSE EXACT NUMBERS.
I KNOW IT WAS IT WAS A POSITIVE IMPACT TO LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
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CORRECT. AND RIGHT AS WE ROLLED INTO THE NEW BUDGET, WE HAVE THE TWO HURRICANES BACK TO BACK.SO WE HAD 74 DAYS WITHOUT FUEL.
CORRECT. AND SO THAT REALLY WAS.
AND THAT'S A MAJOR TIME OF THE YEAR FOR THE MARINA AND THE PROFIT MAKING AT THAT TIME.
ALSO, THE MARINA HAS NOT BEEN BACK FULLY FIXED.
WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO DO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE DOCK AND WHAT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK ALL THE WAY AROUND AND ACCESS THE MARINA AT 360 DEGREES, CONTINUE TO BOARDWALK? YES. YES.
CHARLIE GEORGE, THE CITY ENGINEER, IS WORKING ON A DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
REMOVE DURING A STORM LIKE THAT.
ONE GREAT THAT WE REMOVED DURING THE STORM.
THAT'S ON THE BREAKWATER CONTINUOUS WALL.
YEAH, THEY COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP OUT THE TAXPAYERS MONEY A BUNCH.
I THINK THAT WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THE RATES AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO PUT EVERYBODY OUT OF BUSINESS OR YOU'RE GOING TO GET RID OF THE LOCALS. AND AND THAT'S NOT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN HERE OUR WHOLE LIVES AND PAYING TAXES AND ALL KEEPS THAT MARINA, WHAT'S GOING ON.
BEFORE IT WENT INTO, JOE EMAN AND THEN TOOK IT OVER, IT WAS IN PARK AND RECS.
IS THAT OF SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD CAN LOOK AT ABOUT THE MARINA GOING BACK INTO PARK AND RECS? BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THAT'S ALL IT IS, IS AN RV PARK FOR BOATS BRINGING HEADS TO BEDS, BRINGING PEOPLE TO TOWN.
I MEAN, IT'S A WIN WIN FOR THE CITY AND IT SHOULD BE SUBSIDIZED BY THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL JACKING THE PRICE UP AND EVERYTHING.
AND GOD FORBID YOU CAN'T DO WHAT THE GOOD LORD THROWS A STORM AT US AND US GOING TO SET BACK.
I MEAN, BUT I THINK WE GOT LUCKY WHAT YOU SAID.
AND THE INSIDE OF THAT MARINA JUST HELD UP AWESOME WITH THAT NEW BREAKWATER.
I THINK THAT IF Y'ALL COULD LOOK AT SOME NEW REVENUES, EVEN RUN THAT BY THE BOARD ABOUT TAKING IT BACK TO PARK AND CITY PARK AND REC.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S BENEFICIAL BECAUSE THE CITY COULD FUND IT? OR THE PARK AND REC THEY COULD FUND IT EASIER THAN BEING AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GO FROM ENTERPRISE FUND BACK TO PARK AND RECS, BUT IT WAS PARK AND RECS ALL THE WAY UNTIL 88 THERE.
I MEAN WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD, EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM HAS BEEN ON THAT BOARD AND ALL.
AND I MEAN, I THINK IF IT WENT BACK TO THAT WAY AND HELP IF THAT COULD HAPPEN.
BUT RAISING THE RATES TO ASTRONOMICAL IS JUST CRAZY.
SO THEN THEY MIGHT HAVE MOVED TO 21.
BUT I THINK THE POINT OF THE RATE EXERCISE, AT LEAST FROM MY STANDPOINT, BECAUSE I'M THE ONE WHO ORIGINALLY CALLED FOR THIS THING, WAS TO POINT OUT THAT AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, THE MARINA IS UNAFFORDABLE.
THERE ARE THINGS NOT IN THE BUDGET, IN THE MARINA BUDGET THAT STILL EXIST THERE OUTSIDE.
SO OASIS IS BUDGET IS AGAINST THEIR BUDGET.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THE COSTS.
THERE ARE DEBT SERVICE DREDGING RESERVE FUND, WHICH IS BASICALLY A CAPITALIZATION RESERVE FUND.
FUNDED ANNUALLY, AND THAT IS OUTSIDE THE BUDGET.
SO MAKING PROFIT AGAINST THEIR BUDGET DOESN'T REALLY COVER ALL THE COSTS.
IF YOU SWEEP THAT INTO AN ENTERPRISE FUND, IT QUICKLY BECOMES UNAFFORDABLE.
THAT EXERCISE IS NOT TO RAISE THE RATES TO $5 A FOOT.
EVERYBODY WILL JUST SKIP OVER US.
OR TO PUT YOU GUYS OUT OF BUSINESS WITH A $39 PER FOOT PER MONTH.
AND THERE'S ALSO ONE MORE OPTION, TOO, IS TO CUT OASIS LOOSE AND LET THE STAFF TAKE CARE OF IT UNDER, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE CITY AND SAVE HOW MUCH MONEY A YEAR? 100 AND SOME 100 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND.
OR MORE? BECAUSE THEN I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S AN OPTION, TOO.
I MEAN, OASIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, RUNNING THE MARINA FOR THEIR GOOD, YOU KNOW, GOOD GRACES.
THEY'RE DOING IT TO MAKE MONEY.
ONE OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP AT THE AT THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF USING 101 FRONT STREET AND THE OLD VENTURA PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS AS A PARKING LOT BECAUSE THE ALACHUA STREET IS GOING TO GO STRAIGHT THROUGH AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
AND RIGHT AT THE END OF THAT IS THE VENTURA PROPERTY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN? PARDON.
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AND CHARGE FOR IT OR NO USE IT FOR PARKING.BUT THERE'S SIGNS THAT SAYS NO PARKING BETWEEN SIGNS.
AND I MEAN, THAT'S THAT CAME OUT OF THE MARINA'S FUND, TOO.
AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPAID BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE IDLE FOR 4 OR 5 YEARS NOW.
RIGHT. AND THAT CAME OUT OF THE MARINA FUND.
THANK FOR YOUR COMMENTS. SAY SOMETHING.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A COMMENT? MR. CHAIRMAN? PHILLIPS MARIAN.
UM, ALAN WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY HAD CONTACTED ME.
HE'S BEEN HERE A LOT OVER THE YEARS, AND HE WANTS TO PURCHASE THE MARINA.
UM, DID YOU CALL HIM? OKAY, I'LL FINISH.
OKAY. SORRY. SO, ANYWAY, HE, I DON'T KNOW HOW HE FOUND ME, ALAN.
I MEAN, PEOPLE FIND ME, THEY ASK ME STUFF ALL THE TIME.
SO ANYWAY, LAST MEETING, I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE WE HADN'T HAD A MEETING.
I HAD TO PUT IT OUT HERE IN THE SUNSHINE.
I SENT HIM A MESSAGE AND TOLD HIM WHAT CHIP ROSS SAID.
CHIP ROSS SAID TO MAKE A PROPOSAL.
SO THAT'S WHAT I SENT HIM BACK IN AN EMAIL.
IN FACT, I GOT IT THIS MORNING AND HE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THE DEBT IS OWED ON THE MARINA.
THERE'S A STICKING POINT THAT KATHY AND I DISCUSSED AFTER YOU MADE THAT POINT.
I'M A BUSINESSMAN AND I WANT TO BUY THIS MARINA.
THAT'S RIGHT. THAT DEBT HAS GOT TO BE PAID.
I'VE GOT TO HAVE ZERO, IT'S $9 MILLION, RIGHT? YEAH. HOW MUCH? $700,000 A YEAR.
SO IT'S HOW MANY YEARS? ABOUT 9 MILLION. I THINK IT WAS 9 MILLION AFTER, HUH? I CAN FIND OUT. I THINK IT'S SO OKAY.
HE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THE DEBT IS.
I DON'T KNOW. EVIDENTLY, THIS MAN HAS MONEY AND, YOU KNOW, AND ALAN, THIS IS MY POINT ON THIS MARINE ADVISORY BOARD, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S A WORKING WATERFRONT, IT NEEDS TO BE SAVED AND YOU ALL NEED TO BE SAVED AS FISHERMEN DOWN THERE AND NOT HAVE TO PAY THESE ASTRONOMICAL FEES FOR YOUR BUSINESSES.
AND THAT CONVERSATION IS THAT IT'S A WORKING WATERFRONT.
IT'S GOING TO REMAIN A WORKING WATERFRONT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO PROTECT THE SHRIMPERS.
YOU'RE GOING TO PROTECT EVERYTHING DOWN THERE ON THAT WATERFRONT.
I AGREE WITH YOU. I LOVE FERNANDINA.
I LOVE, YOU KNOW, SO IF HE'S TRUE AND TELLING THE TRUTH AND HE DOES THAT AND WANTS TO PURCHASE IT AND HAS THE MONEY AND IT WOULD HELP, I DON'T KNOW. I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
NOBODY'S I MEAN, THIS IS NEW TO ME.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A CITY MARINA.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE WELCOME STATION TO FLORIDA.
I WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD STAY IF ANY WAY IN FASHION OR FORM THAT THIS CITY COULD MAKE IT HAPPEN.
I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD DO SO.
AND MAYBE TURNING IT INTO A PARK, WHICH IT IS A RECREATION THAT THAT MIGHT BE OF AN AVENUE TO SEARCH, TO LOOK AT.
BUT REMEMBER THAT THE AMELIA RIVER AND THE ST.
MARY'S COMING IN, IT'S THE DEEPEST NATURAL CHANNEL.
IT IS? YOU KNOW, ON THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA, OF THE UNITED STATES.
THAT'S WHY THEY PUT THE SUB BASE HERE.
THAT'S SUB BASE IS PRESIDENT CARTER'S GIFT TO GEORGIA.
CAN I COMMENT ON THAT? THE PROPOSAL.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO TAKE THE STEPS TO GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, THAT TYPE OF THING.
BUT WHAT CONCERNS ME IS IF JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP OUR EYES OPEN IS IF SOMEBODY COMES IN, LET'S SAY, AND WE MOVE FORWARD AND THEY PURCHASE THE MARINA. ARE THERE STIPULATIONS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP IT THERE, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP IT AS A MARINA OR ARE THEY GOING TO GET RID OF IT OR ARE THEY GOING TO DEVELOP THAT LAND SOMEHOW, SOMEWHERE ELSE OR SOMEHOW ELSE? NOW, THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT HE AND I HAD BECAUSE HE WAS AWARE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO TEAR DOWN ATLANTIC SEAFOOD AND PUT THAT MONSTROSUS LOOKING DIDN'T MATCH FERNANDINA.
SO ANYWAY, HE SAID HE'S NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.
BUT THAT'S NOT OUR DECISION TO MAKE.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW. I MEAN, HE CALLED AND ASKED ME.
SO WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP AT THE LAST MEETING, CHIP ROSS SAID, TELL HIM TO MAKE A PROPOSAL.
CHIP ROSS SAID, MAKE A PROPOSAL.
OKAY. OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON THEN.
ANY NEW BUSINESS ANYBODY WANT BROUGHT UP?
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OKAY. HOW ABOUT THE MARINA MANAGER'S REPORT? WELL, THE MARINA MANAGER'S REPORT IS THE RATE STUDY.AND IF IT GOES OUT AGAIN IN PUBLIC, WE'LL ADD BY A FOOT.
THANK YOU. SUGGESTION SINCE NOT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT.
AND THE METRICS WERE JUST 29% OF THE REVENUE COMES FROM LONG TERM HOLDERS, 71% IS FROM TRANSIENTS.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DEBT CALCULATION DID NOT FIGURE IN, OF COURSE, THE COST OF FUEL.
IT'S JUST THE DEBT FOR THE MARINA OR THE EXPENSES.
AND THEN OVER THE BOW, WE'VE GOT THE COAST GUARD CUTTER ETHERIDGE HAD TO CANCEL.
WE DID BOOK A 95 FOOTER RIGHT BEHIND IT.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK OUR WAY DOWN THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL WAIT LIST ALMOST TO THE VERY END.
WE HAVE A LOT OF REALLY HAPPY PEOPLE THAT WERE ABLE TO GET IN THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE 32 BOATS COMING THURSDAY BEFORE SHRIMP FESTIVAL AND THEN ANOTHER 24 ON FRIDAY.
IT'S GOING TO BE WE'LL BE HUSTLING.
WHERE ARE THEY COMING FROM? DO YOU HAVE IT'S ALL ALL LOCALS, ALL FAMILIAR FACES.
AND, YOU KNOW, FOLKS WANT TO BE TOGETHER.
SO WE'VE GOT A MASTER PLAN WORKING AND SO IT'LL BE A GOOD TIME.
SHRIMP FESTIVAL OASIS IS SPONSORING THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL AT THE CAPTAIN'S LEVEL THIS YEAR.
WE'LL DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR WITH THE HOPE TO BE IN THE PARADE AND REPRESENT OASIS AND THE MARINA.
WHAT IS THE CAPTAIN'S LEVEL? IT IS $3,000, BASICALLY.
OKAY. THE COMMISSION, AS WE KNOW, THEY APPROVED THE SECURITY GATES ON THE 4/18 MEETING.
THAT WAS IN THE LAST MEETING WE TOUCHED ON THAT.
THAT WAS COMING UP IN AN EFFORT TO RECOUP SOME OF THE FUEL.
OUR FUEL HAS BEEN THE UNLEADED.
DIESEL HAS BEEN A LITTLE LOWER THAN NORMAL THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE.
SO WE DID SEE SOME BENEFIT FROM.
ADD THE PROJECT TO RELOCATE THE UPLAND ELECTRICAL PANEL.
THEY WANTED TO COME ON THE FIRST, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
HOPEFULLY THAT WHOLE PROJECT TAKES 3 TO 4 DAYS.
IT MAY NOT EVEN TAKE THAT LONG.
IT'S JUST REMOVING THE OLD BREAKER PANEL, SETTING UP NEW AND RECONNECTING EVERYTHING.
THE PATHS ARE THERE, THE HOLES HAVE BEEN DUG.
THEY WANTED TO ALLOW THEMSELVES 1 TO 2 WEEKS.
SO I'M HOPING IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG.
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH YOU AND YOU CAN GO OVER THEM SO THAT I UNDERSTAND THE BIG CHANGES IN SOME OF THEM? SURE. IS THAT. SHOULD I CALL YOU? WE CAN DO IT OVER THE PHONE OR WHATEVER.
WE COULD. WE COULD DO IT OVER THE PHONE.
IT'S FINE. LET'S DO THAT. OKAY.
YOU HAVE MY CELL? I'M SURE YOU DO. I'M SURE. YEAH.
IS THAT CORRECT? NOT AT THIS STAGE, THAT'S CORRECT.
NOW, AND THOSE GATES WILL BE OPEN DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS, BASICALLY? YES. AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO BE CLOSED AFTER THAT? AND HOW WILL THE VOTERS HAVE ACCESS TO? SURE. SINCE THEY WON'T HAVE LOCKS BASICALLY ANYONE COULD PASS THROUGH.
IT WILL BE TO START A DETERRENT.
BUT WITHOUT A LOCK, OBVIOUSLY, SOMEONE COULD CHOOSE.
NOW THESE SPRING LOADED GATES, DO THEY STAY CLOSED ONCE YOU OPEN THEM, THEY CLOSE RIGHT BEHIND YOU? I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE SPRING LOADED.
OKAY. SO BASICALLY, WHEN SOMEBODY GOES THROUGH, THEY'LL BE WIDE OPEN.
IF THEY DON'T CLOSE THEM BACK BEHIND THEM.
I'M IMAGINING SIMILAR TO THE GATE, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'LL STAY OPEN.
YOU AND I BOTH KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY WALKS DOWN ON THE PIER.
OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT REPORT.
ANYBODY ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARINA MANAGER? NO. OKAY.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? I DO. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE MINUTES, THE CORRECTIONS.
AND THERE'S ONE THING THAT AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS IN THE SUNSHINE BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, BUT I'M PRETTY UPFRONT AND HONEST AND UP TO THE POINT WHEN I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. AND I WAS UPSET AFTER I TYPED THESE MINUTES BECAUSE I WORKED REALLY GOOD WITH THE PREVIOUS PERSON WITH OASIS.
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I WOULD GET THE MINUTES TYPED UP, SEND THEM TO HIM.HE'D LOOK AT THEM, SAW ANYTHING, HE'D TELL ME.
I LIKE TO PUT MY NAME AT THE BOTTOM THAT I DID, SO I FORGOT TO PUT THAT.
AND SO SHE SENT SOMETHING BACK AND SAID, FROM NOW ON YOU NEED TO PUT THEM UP HERE AT THE TOP.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, I NEED TO SAY THIS.
I FEEL I'M A SECRETARY UP HERE AND I'M NOT WRITING EVERYTHING DOWN.
AND FROM NOW ON, I'M NOT GOING TO WRITE A WHOLE PARAGRAPH ABOUT WHAT TOOK PLACE.
I'M GOING TO JUST DO SNIPPETS ON IT, BECAUSE WHAT I DO IS I GO BACK, I MAKE A FEW NOTES, I GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE VIDEO, BUT I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WORKING WITH KATHY. I DON'T IT HAD I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT WHEN I DON'T HAVE A SECOND SET OF EYES TO LOOK AT THIS, I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE AT HOME TO READ IT OR ANYTHING OR WHO I CAN SEND IT TO.
SO WHEN I SENT IT, I WAS HOPING THAT YOU WOULD DO THE SAME THING THAT HE DID AND LOOK OVER IT AND SEE IF YOU SAW A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR BECAUSE I'M NOT PERFECT. AND YEAH, I WANT THEM TO BE PERFECT.
WOULD THAT BE OKAY? IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HER.
GOT IT. OKAY. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP, MARIAN, AND I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE AS WELL.
THESE WERE MY FIRST REVIEW OF MINUTES.
AND SO THEY DID GO BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CITY CLERK ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT TIMES, AS I LEARNED THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOW THEY NEED TO GET APPROVED, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY CLERK NEEDED CERTAIN COPIES OF THESE YOUR ORIGINALS AND THEN ANY CHANGES.
SO IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN A LEARNING CURVE FOR ME AS WELL.
I HAVE SOME IDEAS AS FAR AS MAKING IT MORE PROFESSIONAL WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A SIGNATURE LINE AT THE BOTTOM AND THESE TYPES OF THINGS GOING OVER, I DIDN'T READ OVER IT. I JUST SKIMMED OVER IT.
SO DEFINITELY NEXT TIME I'LL TAKE MORE TIME TO GO OVER IT.
SO YOU'LL WORK WITH ME? I'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU.
OKAY. BECAUSE THE MINUTES AREN'T GOING TO THE CITY YET.
THEY DON'T GO UNTIL AFTER YOU GET THEM.
CORRECT. SO THAT WOULD BE THE TIME THAT THE CORRECTIONS NEEDED TO BE MADE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, IS THAT.
I THINK WE CAN HAVE A PROFESSIONAL WAY TO DO THAT.
I'LL TAKE MORE TIME TO REVIEW YOUR NOTES AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH BEFORE WE SUBMIT THEM.
SO AND YOU DO YOU HAVE YOUR MINUTES THE VERY NEXT DAY.
SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE MISUNDERSTANDING.
THANK YOU. I GATHER YOU'RE PASSED ON BECAUSE HERE'S THE CASE BY NOW.
WAS MS. BACH ABLE TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT? YES. MS. BACH IS HAS LOOKED AT THE ADDENDUM ON THE CONTRACT AS IT PERTAINS TO THE HURRICANE STATUTE.
I THINK I GAVE A COUPLE COPIES UP THERE FOR YOU TO REVIEW THE LAST PAGE.
AS SOON AS THERE IS PART OF YOUR HURRICANE PLAN.
BUT WE DO NEED TO PUT A TIME FRAME ON THAT.
OASIS WILL REVIEW IT BEFORE WE MAKE ANY CHANGES, BUT THAT'S IN THE WORKS NOW.
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR THE BOARD TO GET A COPY OF THE HURRICANE PLAN, YOUR DISASTER WEATHER PLAN? PRIOR TO. SO WE HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT THE VOTERS.
SAY AGAIN? YOU'RE ASKING FOR A COPY OF THE HURRICANE PLAN? HURRICANE PLAN, YOU KNOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION OF ALL OUR GUESTS THIS EVENING.
HOW CAN WE HELP YOU? WELL, I JUST CAME OBSERVE TONIGHT.
I SUPPOSE YOU GOT THAT PRETTY WELL KENT.
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WOLFGANG, YOU GOT ANYTHING TO SAY? THAT'S A FIRST. WELL, WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU IF WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING.OUR JOB IS TO BE THE VOICE OF THE VOTE, YOU KNOW, AND TRY TO HELP YOU GUYS ANY WAY WE CAN.
SO I GAVE YOU ALL ENOUGH TO HEAR FOR ONE WEEK.
WE JUST CAN'T FIND YOUR CUSTOMERS.
WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
WELL, THAT BEING SAID, OKAY, NOTHING ELSE TO BE SAID.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ANYTHING? IF. IF WE WOULD GO BACK TO THE PARKS AND RECS, HOW WOULD WE DO THAT? YOU PUT A PROPOSAL. IF WE WENT BACK TO PARKS AND REC, HOW WOULD WE DO THAT? YOU PUT IT IN THE MINUTES? I THINK WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT BECAME AN ENTERPRISE FUND, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF ENTERPRISE FUND ARE, AND THEN WHETHER YOU CAN MOVE IT BACK OR NOT.
RIGHT NOW, IF IT'S, IF I UNDERSTAND ENTERPRISE FUND, WE'RE A BANKRUPT ENTERPRISE, RIGHT.
RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, WE COULDN'T MAKE PAYROLL NEXT WEEK IF YOU HAD TO HAVE WE HAD TO FOLLOW ACCOUNTING STANDARDS AND KEEP EVERYTHING ON THE BOOKS, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES. YOU'D HAVE TO SHUT DOWN.
THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO, MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT EVERYTHING FROM THE BULKHEAD IN THAT MARINA EASTWARD IS PARKS AND REC.
SO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE MARINA DOESN'T GET ANY MONEY OFF OF ANYTHING.
IT GOES ON ANYWHERE ON ANY OF THAT DIRT.
SO AND WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY TO GET AROUND THAT. AND I AM GOING TO BE TALKING TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO SEE IF THEY CAN HELP US SOMEWHAT BECAUSE THE COUNTY PEOPLE USE THIS MARINA JUST LIKE THE CITY PEOPLE DO.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE OUGHT TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, GIVE AND TAKE IN THAT REGARD.
SO IF WE WERE TO PUT IT BACK UNDER PARKS AND REC, IF WE WERE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU.
THE CITY COMMISSION IS GOING TO ASK FOR A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW WE MAKE IT HAPPEN.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD PURSUE? RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT? HOW TO TURN IT BACK TO PARKS AND REC, THE WHOLE MARINA.
WE JUST NEED TO FIND OUT IF IT'S FEASIBLE OR NOT.
SO WHO'S WHO'S THE EXPERT ON THAT? CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WHO YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH ON THAT TO FIND OUT HOW YOU WOULD DO IT? IT'D BE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT HOW IT GOT SHIFTED INTO AN ENTERPRISE FUND IN THE FIRST PLACE.
IF WE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW, I'LL WORK WITH KATHY AND WE'LL COME UP WITH A HISTORY OF HOW IT BECAME AN ENTERPRISE FUND, WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS TO BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND AND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MOVE IT OUT OF AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
IT MAY NOT EVEN BE WITHIN THE CITY COMMISSION.
THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO JUST GO ON EMPTY.
IT'S NOT AN ENTERPRISE FUND ANYMORE.
FEELS TO ME LIKE THERE'S SOME STATE INVOLVEMENT IN THIS SOMEWHERE, WHETHER IT'S AN APPLICATION OR WORST CASE, ACTUAL LEGISLATION THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PASSED AT THE STATE LEVEL, WHICH THEY CAN DO.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET WITH MS. CHAPMAN AND WORK ON THAT.
I'M JUST DYING OF CURIOSITY ABOUT ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
YEAH, GOOD. THANK YOU. IF THERE'S NO OTHER.
THANK YOU. BUSINESS FOR THE MEETING, OUR NEXT MEETING DATE WILL BE MAY THE 22ND.
[10. NEXT MEETING DATE - MAY 22, 2023]
I WON'T BE HERE. YOU WON'T BE HERE? SO YOU DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING IT IN APRIL, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT IN MAY.SO THE NEXT MEETING WOULDN'T BE UNTIL JULY, RIGHT? JUNE OR JULY. IT SHOULD BE JUNE.
THAT'S WHY WE ACCELERATED. WE CAN MOVE IT TO JUNE, IF YOU PREFER.
AND PERSONALLY I WOULD PREFER THE JUNE 1ST.
OKAY. AND THE JUNE MEETING WOULD BE THE 26TH.
SO THE NEXT MEETING ON THE MINUTES THAT SAYS 22ND.
SO IS EVERYBODY IN FAVOR OF MOVING IT TO JUNE THE 26TH? THAT WORKS FOR ME. I HEAR NO NEGATIVE COMMENTS, SO WE'LL MAKE THAT.
THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE JUNE THE 26TH.
THANK YOU. AND WHAT IS IT AFTER THAT? SO JUNE, AUGUST, OCTOBER.
THANK YOU. WE'LL WE'LL DO EVERY OTHER NOW.
OCTOBER. DECEMBER IS SLOW, SO THAT'LL MESS UP DECEMBER.
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BUT WE'LL FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO DO AT THAT TIME.WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT BOARD MEMBERS, TOO.
WE GOT TO COME UP WITH TWO MORE BOARDS.
SO IS THERE A PLAN TO GET MORE BOARD MEMBERS? WE NEED TWO. IS THERE A PLAN TO GET MORE BOARD MEMBERS? BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
YEAH, ME TOO. IT'S USUALLY PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER TOO, RIGHT? THEY USUALLY LIKE ALL THE OPEN HOUSES AND STUFF AT LEAST ONCE IN A WHILE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN IT IN THE PAPER.
IT'S ON THE WEBSITE. CITY WEBSITE.
WAS IT THE? THAT'S ALL I GOT ON HERE.
I SAW IT IN THE PAPER. YEAH, I'LL GO DO THAT.
SOUNDS LIKE FUN. WHEN DID YOU? THAT WAS LIKE A YEAR AGO. UNDER WHAT SECTION? I DON'T KNOW. IT WAS JUST LIKE A GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENT.
THE FOLLOWING BOARD POSITIONS ARE OPEN IN FERNANDINA BEACH.
I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND OUT WHERE IT GETS POSTED.
AND MAYBE THE CITY. IT'S NOT GONNA EVEN BE WORTHWHILE TO HAVE TO ASK THEM TO DO A BURST ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE ABOUT ALL THE COMMITTEES, YOU KNOW, THE VACANCIES, LIKE DO YOU WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH YOUR COMMUNITY? THESE ARE THE VACANCIES AND SEE THE CITY CLERK OR WHATEVER.
YEAH. AND THEN ALSO, YEAH, ALL THE BOARDS AND THEN ALSO ON THE, ON THE CITY'S WEB PAGE, RIGHT ON THE FRONT PAGE, WHEN YOU OPEN IT. HAVE JUST A LITTLE THING THAT CATCHES YOUR EYE.
IT SAYS, DO YOU WANT TO BECOME INVOLVED WITH YOUR CITY AND HELP OUT? HERE ARE THE OPENINGS FOR COMMITTEES.
YEAH BUT DOES EVERYBODY GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE.
MAYBE IN THE PAPER, I LIKE THE PAPER IDEA BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS FACEBOOK SAVVY.
IT WAS DEFINITELY IN THE PAPER ONE TIME BECAUSE CAUSE I SAW IT.
YEAH. WHY? WE'RE GLAD WE GOT A GOOD ONE.
I'M JUST SAYING, HIT THEM ALL.
YEAH. OUR NEWSLETTER, YOU KNOW, ON THAT PUBLIC AREA WHICH IS RIGHT INSIDE THE FIRST PAGE WHERE ALL THE DIFFERENT PLACES DO IT, CAN YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THERE OR SHOULD WE? I DON'T KNOW. I CAN FIND OUT IF.
I THINK THE CITY HAS TO DO IT.
THE CITY DOES THAT. I PERSONALLY IT'S BASICALLY A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT TYPE THING.
SO IT'D BE INTERESTING TO PUT SOMETHING THERE AND SEE WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED.
AND IF YOU NEED HELP, I'M HERE.
WE ARE GOING TO DO JUNE THE 26TH FOR THE NEXT MEETING? YES. DID WE DECIDE ANY OF THE TWO MONTHS AFTER THAT OR IS THE NEXT MEETING? THE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE AFTER JUNE, IT WILL BE IN AUGUST.
IT'LL BE EVERY OTHER MONTH, THE ONLY PROBLEM WE WILL RUN INTO IS DECEMBER.
OCTOBER. THAT WOULD BE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER.
AND THEN WE DON'T USUALLY DO ONE IN DECEMBER.
WE JUST SKIP ALL THE WAY TO JANUARY.
YEAH, BUT THREE MONTHS. WE'LL SEE.
WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. CAN WE DETERMINE THAT LAST ONE WE DID LAST YEAR.
YEAH. WELL WE DID THAT LAST YEAR AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION IF WE MOVE IT TO QUARTERLY INSTEAD OF IT WAS MONTHLY AND THEN IT WAS EVERY OTHER MONTH AND THEN THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY OF QUARTERLY.
BUT I THINK QUARTERLY IS TOO LONG.
THAT BEING SAID, MOTION TO ADJOURN.
THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.