Apr 11, 2023 Parks & Recreation Advisory Committee

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[INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF APRIL THE 11TH, 2023 OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MARCH 23RD REGULAR MEETING? I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE SOMETHING ON IT.

DON'T KNOW WHERE'D IT GO.

DIDN'T PUT IT IN FRONT OF ME.

THANK YOU. IT SAYS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THAT BIG OF A DEAL, BUT IT'S WRITTEN IN HERE THAT I SAID I WASN'T GOING TO BE HERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE OR NOT, AND ALSO, I'M JUST I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT IT WAS REFERRED TO AS EVEN THOUGH I SAID CONCRETE CHESS TABLES.

HOW ABOUT CONCRETE GAME TABLES OR SOME DAY OR ANOTHER? IF THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT, THEN I'M OKAY, THANK YOU.

I HAVE A CHANGE TOO.

OKAY, WHAT IS YOUR CHANGE? UNDER BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS, IT SAYS THAT MEMBER CHAPMAN STATED THAT THE LOVE AND ATTENTION PROGRAM IS A GOOD IDEA. HOWEVER, THE TRASH CANS AT EGAN'S CREEK ARE STILL VERY DIRTY AND NEED SOME ATTENTION.

I'D LIKE THE MINUTES TO REFLECT THE FACT THAT WAS NOT MY POINT.

MY POINT WAS THAT IF WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO REPORT ISSUES THREE MONTHS LATER WHEN THOSE ISSUES HAVE NOT BEEN FIXED, PEOPLE SAY, WHY DID I BOTHER SAME OLD FERNANDINA, AND THAT'S WHAT I STATED AT THAT MEETING, AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IS PART OF LACK OF A BETTER TERM, OUR CULTURE.

WHEN THE CITY IS ASKED TO DO SOMETHING AND THEY DON'T DO IT AND THEY DON'T DO IT AND THEY DON'T DO IT, PEOPLE SAY, SAME OLD FERNANDINA, AND I THINK WITH A NEW DIRECTOR, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO SET A NEW PATH FOR PARK AND REC, BUT WHEN IF ISSUES ARE GOING TO GO UNATTENDED, THEN MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO DROP THE LOVE AND ATTENTION PROGRAM, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ONLY GOING TO BACKFIRE, AND I WOULD LIKE THE MINUTES TO REFLECT THOSE COMMENTS THAT I MADE AT THE LAST MEETING.

CAN YOU ABBREVIATE IT SOMEHOW? I MEAN, YOU SAID A LOT.

HOW ABOUT THE LENGTH OF TIME [INAUDIBLE]? WHEN ISSUES ARE REPORTED, THEY NEED TO BE DEALT WITH IN A TIMELY FASHION.

THERE YOU GO, AND I UNDERSTAND STAFF RESTRAINTS, BUT I'LL SAY, LIKE WITH SCHOOL GRAFFITI, IF IT'S NOT REMOVED WITHIN 24 HOURS, YOU INCREASE THE ODDS OF GETTING MORE AND MORE, AND I THINK THAT IF WE REALLY WANT THE PUBLIC TO GET BEHIND THE PARKS, WE HAVE TO SHOW THEM THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT MAINTAINING THEM BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LONG STANDING ISSUE AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES.

WELL, ALICIA, DO YOU HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION ON HOW TO PUT THAT IN IT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, SO COULD YOU REFLECT WHAT THE CHANGE WOULD BE SO THEY CAN APPROVE THE MINUTES? FOR MEMBER GRANT, I WOULD REMOVE CONCRETE AND JUST DO.

NO, CONCRETE IS FINE.

OKAY, REMOVE CHESS.

THERE YOU GO. JUST DO GAME TABLES, AND FOR MEMBER CHAPMAN, I WOULD SAY THE LOVE AND ATTENTION PROGRAM IS A GOOD IDEA.

HOWEVER, WE NEED TO BE WE NEED TO BE REACTIVE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES SO THAT THE PROGRAM IS IS CREDIBLE.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

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SO WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, SAYING TO THE PERSON OR RESPONDING BACK, WE GOT YOUR EMAIL OR YOUR CALL AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE IN X AMOUNT OF DAYS OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN, NOT EVERY INSTANCE WILL BE SOMETHING YOU CAN IMMEDIATELY.

IT MAY REQUIRE A PART TO BE REPAIRED.

I MEAN, YES, WE CAN, BUT THIS IS JUST AMENDING THE MINUTES.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL, BUT YES, WE CAN DO THAT, AND WE HAVEN'T IMPLEMENTED IT YET, BUT WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR SURE.

SO HAS THERE BEEN A MOTION TO PASS THE MINUTES AS AMENDED? OKAY, I MOVE TO PASS THE MINUTES AS AMENDED.

SECOND.

DISCUSSION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? YES, I SECOND.

OKAY, CAN WE HAVE A VOTE, PLEASE? NUMBER FIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING ANY ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

OKAY, WELL, HEY, HANG ON ONE SECOND.

HE TALKED A LOT DOWN HERE.

DID HE GIVE YOU ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THAT? THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH HAS NOT ADOPTED THE NEW SEA TURTLE.

WE ACCEPTED STATE MONEY, BUT WE HAVE NOT IMPLEMENTED THE AMENDMENT FOR THE FLORIDA SEA TURTLE WATCH. WHAT DO THEY CALL IT? OKAY, THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL THEMSELVES, AND THERE IS A STATE AMENDMENT TO WHATEVER WE HAD ADOPTED.

SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

IT COULD BE EVEN TEN YEARS AGO.

WE ACCEPTED THE MONEY.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS IF IT'S REPORTED TO US AS THE COMMITTEE HERE THAT WILL WRITE OR THE CHAIRPERSON WILL WRITE A MEMO TO THE COMMISSIONERS SAYING THAT IT WAS PRESENTED TO US, THIS IS THE PERSON'S NAME.

YOU ACCEPT WE ACCEPTED MONEY.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO LOOK INTO IT UNLESS THIS IS--DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT TIME ON THE AGENDA, AND SO IF THEY'RE NOT HERE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD TO CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND DOING IT WHERE IN YOUR BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS SO THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO IT AT THAT TIME.

OKAY, BECAUSE YOU'RE IN PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW AND THERE'S NO PUBLIC HERE TO DO THAT.

RIGHT? JUST SO IF YOU WANT IT TO BE ON THE RECORD WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND HOLDING THAT, AND STATING IT DURING YOUR BOARD MEMBER COMMENT TIME WE GO THROUGH EVERY BOARD MEMBER. IS THAT OKAY? YEAH. HE DID SAY HE WAS GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT HERE AND THEN CHANGE HIS MIND.

YEAH, AND WE DO HAVE CITY STAFF THAT ARE ON ON BOARD WITH THAT INITIATIVE AND SO I'M SURE THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT.

OKAY, ARE YOU READY FOR ME? NUMBER SIX DISCUSSION ITEM SIX ONE DRAFT PARK RECREATION FEES.

[6.2 Adult Programming]

THAT'S FINE. OKAY, YEAH, IT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY.

OKAY, BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, I WANT TO SAY WELCOME WALLY TO THE BOARD.

NICE TO HAVE YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US.

ADULT PROGRAMMING MEMBER GRANT, YOU ASKED FOR THAT TO BE ON THE AGENDA.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THAT.

THOSE WERE YOUR CONCERNS FROM THE LAST MEETING.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE BOARD GAMES AND CARDS WE HAVE THAT, I THINK THAT'S MONTHLY, RIGHT? YES. FOR OUR SENIORS.

WE ALSO HAVE THE SENIOR MEET AND GREET THAT'S, I THINK QUARTERLY OR A LITTLE MORE THAN QUARTERLY.

WE HAVE ADULT BASKETBALL COMING UP IN THE SUMMER.

THAT'S USUALLY THAT'S A THAT'S A REOCCURRING PROGRAM.

WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE CONCRETE GAME TABLES.

WE HAVE A VENDOR, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO DO THAT.

IF WE DO, WE'RE GOING TO BRING THOSE CONCRETE GAME TABLES.

THERE'S MORE THAN JUST CHESS, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THERE'S ALSO OTHER THINGS LIKE CORNHOLE AND ALL SORTS OF STUFF.

SO YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

WE'LL BRING IF WE HAVE MONEY TO TO BUY THOSE ITEMS, WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT TO YOU.

SO THAT'LL BE PART OF ADULT PROGRAMMING.

WE'VE GOT A HORSESHOE TOURNAMENT COMING UP.

WE'VE GOT A PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT SCHEDULED.

WE'RE STARTING A PICKLEBALL LEAGUE AS WELL.

THE SOFTBALL LEAGUE THAT WE HAVE EVERY COUPLE OF SEASONS ENDED YESTERDAY, AND THEN WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A PING PONG TOURNAMENT, TOO.

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SO I'LL SEND AN EMAIL TO YOU ALL AS A GROUP AND THEN JUST SAY, HERE ARE THE FLIERS THAT WENT OUT THIS WEEK, IF WE HAVE ANY, THAT WENT OUT THIS, YOU KNOW, SO YOU DON'T GET THEM ALL IN ONE TIME. SO THAT'S EVERYTHING REGARDING ADULT PROGRAMMING THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'VE GOT? WE'RE KIND OF REVAMPING AND GETTING INTO IT.

SO OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT.

SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF FUN STUFF GOING ON.

I WAS WONDERING, TOO, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN THERE'RE LIKE LEAGUE PLAYS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S MORE OF A TOURNAMENT, IT'S KIND OF LIKE BUILDING GAMES, I GUESS, I WONDER IF YOU GUYS HAVE CONSIDERED ANYTHING FOR ADULTS THAT IS REALLY JUST LIKE A ONE DAY EVENT, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, FIELD DAY OR LIKE KICKBALL, WHERE A LOT OF GAMES ARE GOING ON AT ONCE, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE'S LIKE ANOTHER GAME FOR [INAUDIBLE], BUT JUST KIND OF MORE OF A ONE TIME SORT OF EVENT INSTEAD OF THINGS WHERE YOU ARE COMMITTED LIKE SEVERAL WEEKS, EIGHT WEEKS OR TEN WEEKS.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE, LIKE THE TOURNAMENTS.

YEAH. SOMETHING KIND OF JUST SILLY AND FUN, BUT NOT QUITE SO COMPETITIVE.

I MEAN, I KNOW SOME KICKBALL PEOPLE THAT ARE KIND OF COMPETITIVE.

SO LIKE KICKBALL TOURNAMENTS. YES, BUT MAYBE SOME THINGS THAT ARE JUST KIND OF SILLY AND FUN.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? NOT REALLY.

I MEAN, ANYBODY WITH BASIC SKILL CAN PLAY KICKBALL, BUT YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO COMPETE IN A PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT AT THIS PLACE.

ALL RIGHT, ANYWAY, JUST A SUGGESTION.

YEAH, JUST SHORTER TERM THINGS.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT, WHERE'S MY LIGHT? GO AHEAD. THERE IT IS AND LET'S NOT FORGET HALLOWEEN.

I AM VERY EXCITED THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE, LIKE, A PUMPKIN, YOU KNOW, START SMALL WITH A PUMPKIN CONTEST OR MAYBE A SCARECROW CONTEST, AND YOU HAVE VENDORS THERE SELLING FOOD AND STUFF.

THAT'S SO SOME SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE THEY DO WELL.

THERE'S A FAMOUS ONE WHERE WE USED TO LIVE IN SAINT CHARLES, ILLINOIS.

PEOPLE WOULD COME FROM ALL AROUND JUST TO WALK THROUGH THIS ESSENTIALLY A BLOCK ABOUT A CITY BLOCK OF ALL KINDS OF CHILDREN, AND THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE PRIZES AND SUCH, BUT THERE WAS ALSO FACE PAINTING AND EVERYTHING ELSE THERE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT FOR THE FUTURE.

GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SUGGESTIONS ABOUT ADULT PROGRAMMING? YES. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR WELCOMING ME.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSS, FOR GIVING ME A CALL.

COMMISSIONER ROSS, I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK TO HIM HEADING INTO THIS.

MY FIRST QUESTION, WHEN IT COMES TO THE ADULT, I THINK IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN COMBINE THAT WITH CHILD KIDS CHESS SOMEHOW A COMBINATION OF BOTH INSTEAD OF JUST ADULT PROGRAM WHERE IT CAN BE COMBINED WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] CHESS CLUB.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER REACHED OUT TO THOMAS ROLAND, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF IT AND RUNS IT.

I THINK THEY'RE EVEN MEETING TONIGHT, BUT SOMEHOW BE ABLE TO MEET PUT THOSE TOGETHER AND SEE IF THAT'LL WORK.

GREAT IDEA. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? AS FAR AS THE ADULT PROGRAMMING GOES, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO OUR MEETING WE CAN KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE IN STORE OR WHAT YOU'RE THINKING OF ADULT PROGRAMMING AHEAD OF TIME. THE SAME THING FOR CITIZENS.

I'M SURE THEY'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HIRE A PICKLEBALL INSTRUCTOR AND A TOURNAMENT AND ALL OF THAT, AND WE'D HAVE MORE PUBLIC INPUT IF THEY KNEW IN ADVANCE WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING, AND IT'S HARD.

WE USED TO GET A PACKET WITH ALL THAT STUFF BACKED UP AS FAR WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO, AND WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING THAT NOW.

SO I'M KIND OF AT A LOSS AS TO WHAT I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT ENOUGH WHEN I'M SITTING HERE WHERE I MIGHT HAVE MORE INPUT HAD I KNOWN IN ADVANCE WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO, MAYBE SOME ADVICE OR IDEAS.

YEAH, NO, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE WHEN WE PUT THE AGENDA TOGETHER AND THEN WE GOT AN EMAIL RECENTLY ABOUT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING BACK UP TO THE AGENDA, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WILL HAVE BACKUP.

FOR ADULT PROGRAMMING.

IT PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ON THE AGENDA AS A DISCUSSION ITEM BECAUSE IT WAS REQUESTED TO, TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE US GO BACK AND PRESENT AT THE NEXT MEETING.

WHAT ADULT PROGRAMMING ARE WE OFFERING? AND SO IT'S NOT REALLY A DISCUSSION.

IT'S MORE OF A I'M SHARING WITH YOU WHAT, WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, WHAT WE'RE DOING.

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I WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU DIDN'T GET THE FEES BECAUSE WE WEREN'T DONE.

THAT'S REALLY WHY THOSE WERE COMPLETED THIS AFTERNOON, AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT IS IT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT HERE, AND CAN YOU PASS THIS? YES, WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT, AND IT'S GOING ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MONTH, TOO.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT, ASK QUESTIONS.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT FOR THE WHOLE MONTH.

EVERYONE CAN HAVE IT. I'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE THAT THEY WANT COPIES OR EMAILING THEM OUT AND THEN SO WE'LL COME BACK NEXT MONTH.

IT'LL BE ON THE AGENDA.

WE'LL GO OVER ANY FEEDBACK QUESTIONS, ANYTHING.

SO IT WILL BE AS THE BACKUP YOU'LL SEE IT ON AT THE YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE AGENDA AND IT'LL BE IN A PACKET FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

THANK YOU. IS THERE, IS THERE SOMETHING TO COME HERE.

WHAT HAS BEEN AND YES.

SO IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.

ANY OTHER THINGS ABOUT ADULT PROGRAM BEFORE WE GET RIGHT INTO THE FEES? BECAUSE THIS THIS IS KIND OF THE PART OF THE REASON WHY TO IS IT REQUIRES A LOT OF EXPLANATION.

[6.1 Draft Parks & Recreation Fees]

SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ARE TWO THINGS.

ONE SAYS PARKS AND RECREATION 2023 PROPOSED FEES WITH EXISTING STRUCTURE.

SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW.

SO IT'S THE ONE WITH THE DARK BLUE TITLE.

THE OTHER DOCUMENT IS THE GREEN AND GRAY, AND IT'S THE 2023 PROPOSED CONSOLIDATED FEE STRUCTURE, AND IF YOU SEE IN THE TOP LEFT, THAT'S THE DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDATION.

SO LET'S LET'S GO THROUGH THIS LET'S WALK THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.

WE'RE GOING TO GO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT, I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THIS, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE DOCUMENT REALLY QUICK, AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL IN THE OTHER ONE, AND.

OKAY, AND IT'S ON THE SCREEN BEHIND ME AS WELL.

SO, MEMBERS GRANT, YOU ASKED THE FIRST QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS.

YOU READ MY MIND.

THE CURRENT FEES ARE STATED ON ON THIS ON THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE ITEM, THEN YOU HAVE THE CURRENT RESIDENT RATE AND THE PROPOSED RESIDENT RATE, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE CURRENT NON RESIDENT RATE AND THE PROPOSED NON RESIDENT RATE.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO GOING DOWN THIS STRUCTURE NOW, WHAT'S DIFFERENT IS IN THE HE OTHER DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE, WE'RE CHANGING THE STRUCTURE.

SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT DIFFERENT FEES IN THE RECOMMENDED AND THE RECOMMENDED FEE STRUCTURE THEY'RE DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING IT SO THIS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES, BUT I WILL SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE THREE ORANGE HIGHLIGHTED ROWS.

THOSE ARE HIGHLIGHTED BECAUSE IN THE NEW STRUCTURE WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THOSE BE REMOVED.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO TAKE AWAY THE TEN DAY PASS.

THE ONLY OTHER THING ON THIS FRONT SHEET IS THE SWIM LESSONS.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK SWIM LESSONS RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE GROUPED LEVELS ONE, TWO AND STROKE CLINICS ARE CERTAIN PRICE LEVELS THREE AND FOUR ARE A DIFFERENT PRICE BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO WEEKS, AND THEN WE HAVE PRIVATE LESSONS.

WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING.

WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING ANY CHANGES WITH THE COSTS FOR PRIVATE LESSONS, BUT FOR THE GROUP LESSONS, IT'S GETTING A LITTLE CONFUSING.

WE WANT TO CONSOLIDATE IT AND SAY THE BASE PRICE IS $10 A LESSON AND $12 A LESSON, AND THAT IS CHEAPER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.

RIGHT NOW, RESIDENTS PAY $12 A LESSON.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING LOWERING THAT FEE.

THAT'S VERY HIGH IN COMPARABLE MARKETS.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING LOWERING THE FEES DOWN.

SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE RECOMMENDING $10 A LESSON BASE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT LEVEL IT IS, IT'S JUST $10, AND THEN FOR NON RESIDENTS, IT'S $12.

THAT'S THE CHANGE, AND THAT'S THE SAME IN THE OTHER STRUCTURE, TOO.

CAN I ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? SURE. SO YOU SAID THE ORANGE LINES ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING AWAY.

IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO SAY? YES, AND I'LL EXPLAIN MORE WHY THAT WAS GOING TO BE.

MY QUESTION WAS SO BECAUSE WHAT I'M SEEING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TEN DAY PASSES, I'M ASSUMING THAT THOSE ARE APPEALING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST HERE VISITING FOR A WEEK OR THE SHORTER PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE HERE.

YOU GOT IT, BUT THEN MY OTHER QUESTION, AND MAYBE IT'S BETTER ON YOUR NEXT PORTION TO EXPLAIN IF IN

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IS THAT FAIR? IT'S A COMMUNITY BENEFIT, AND MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION DID PASS THE NEW CITY SAFETY INITIATIVE THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, WHICH IS TO OFFER FREE SWIM LESSONS TO ALL CHILDREN OR CHILD RESIDENTS.

THIS JUST FEELS LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

HONESTLY, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

IT'S A MASSIVE COMMUNITY BENEFIT.

IT'S A LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM.

IT'S NOT A SWIM TEAM.

THOSE THOSE I MEAN, TO SIGN UP FOR A WEEK OF SWIM LESSONS IS ALMOST $100.

THAT'S NOT THE BUSINESS THAT WE'RE IN, AND WE DO NEED TO RECOVER FEES, BUT THAT JUST FEELS REALLY IT JUST DOESN'T MEET THE GUT CHECK ABOUT THE SWIMMING. I MEAN, OVERALL FEES.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY FEES THAT WERE LOWERED. OKAY, SORRY.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME OR A LITTLE HIGHER.

MY QUESTION IS, THE INSTRUCTORS ARE STAFF PEOPLE OR ARE THERE SO THEY'RE CERTIFIED SWIM INSTRUCTORS THEN, OR.

YES, THEY ARE TRAINED.

OKAY, SO WE'RE NOT AFFECTING THEIR SALARY? NO, NO, THEY'RE ON STAFF.

THEY'RE ON STAFF. YES.

NOW, AGAIN, WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, THE TEN DAY PASS STAYS BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE TO STAY WITH THE NEW STRUCTURE.

DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, AND I'LL SHOW YOU.

SO IT'S HIGHLIGHTED SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT TEN DAY PASS.

SO IF YOU TURN THE PAGE, I'M GOING TO ASK SCOTT TO COME UP HERE AND ASK AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS PERPETUAL CARE FEE FOR THE ANCIENT SECTION, BECAUSE ACTUALLY, I STAND CORRECTED. WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE REMOVAL OF A FEE, AND BUT I'LL LET SCOTT EXPLAIN BECAUSE HE'S THE PRO AT THE CEMETERY.

SO REGARDING--SCOTT MICHAELSON, DEPUTY DIRECTOR.

SO THE PERPETUAL CARE FEE IN THE ANCIENT SECTION.

SO THE ANCIENT SECTION OF THE CEMETERY IS WEST OF MAGNOLIA STREET.

SO A LOT OF THESE FAMILIES HAVE AND THE RECORDS ARE NOT GREAT.

SO WE DON'T DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF BURIALS IN THE ANCIENT PART OF THE OF THE CEMETERY.

HOW MANY PER YEAR, IF I CAN INTERRUPT YOU.

ROUGHLY 7 TO 10, MAYBE AT THE MOST.

SO THESE FAMILIES AND THE ONLY WAY WE ALLOW A BURIAL IS IF THERE IS A ROPED OFF AREA THAT THESE FAMILIES HAVE SUPPOSEDLY PURCHASED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.

SO WHAT HAPPENS NOW IS WE GO OUT AND WE MEET WITH THE FAMILY AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BURY A LOVED ONE, AND WE HAVE NOW THIS $600 FEE WHEN ALL ALONG THEY HAVE THIS AREA OUT AT THE CEMETERY THAT IS ROPED OFF AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, I ALREADY OWN THE BURIAL RIGHTS TO THIS AREA.

SO IT JUST FEELS LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO REMOVE THIS BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST LIKE, WELL, YOU HAVE YOUR HOUSE AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO NOW USE IT FOR OR 50 YEARS LATER, WE'RE GOING TO JUST THROW THIS OTHER FEE ON TOP OF IT.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOSING A TON OF MONEY.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO DO MOVING FORWARD AND THAT THIS IS IN THE OTHER [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS IN THE OTHER STRUCTURE AS WELL.

HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH FAMILIES WHO BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY OWN AN AREA, THEY HAVE LOVED ONES IN THERE LIKE WHAT SCOTT WAS SAYING , AND THEN YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, YES, WE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH YOU.

OH, AND BY THE WAY, NOW YOU HAVE A NOW YOU HAVE TO GIVE US $600.

IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATION TO HAVE, BUT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO REMOVE IT.

HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OUR FINAL DECISION TO MAKE.

SO PERPETUAL CARE THAT MEANS I'M ASSUMING THAT'S LIKE THE REGULAR MAINTENANCE OF THE AREA BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CARING FOR SOMEONE'S GRAVE SITE ONCE IT'S SOMEONE BURIED THERE.

WE DON'T. SO PERPETUAL CARE BASICALLY IS THE CITY IS GOING TO MAINTAIN THIS CEMETERY IN PERPETUITY IS EVERY SO NOW WHEN EVERYONE BUYS A GRAVE IN THE NEWER SECTION WHERE WE CURRENTLY SELL, LET'S JUST SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE GRAVE IS $1,000.

WE TAKE 65% OF THAT AND IT GOES INTO A CERTAIN ACCOUNT TO MAINTAIN AS WE GO ALONG, TO PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF IT.

JUST TO MOW, WEED, EDGE BELOW THE CEMETERY, 35% OF THAT COST.

I'M JUST USING $1,000 AS A GENERAL NUMBER.

35% GOES INTO PERPETUAL CARE.

SO IT ACTUALLY GOES INTO ACCOUNT AN ACCOUNT THAT IS SITTING THERE THAT WILL IT'S EARNING INTEREST, AND SO BASICALLY, WHEN WE'RE DONE

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SO, THIS $600 THAT WE ARE CHARGING IN THE ANCIENT SECTION, THAT MONEY GOES INTO THAT ACCOUNT, AND IS THAT BECAUSE THE ANCIENT PART, NOTHING WAS BEING COLLECTED FOR THOSE? WHY IS IT JUST PERTAIN TO JUST THE ANCIENT SECTION OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT APPLIES? RIGHT. SO IT JUST I APOLOGIZE.

SO IT APPLIES TO THE ANCIENT SECTION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEEDS TO THE ANCIENT SECTION, BUT IF YOU GO AND LOOK AND THERE'S [INAUDIBLE] OFF AREAS WHERE WE ONLY ALLOW BURIALS FOR THAT IS THEY OBVIOUSLY OWN THAT AREA.

SO WE WORK WITH THE FAMILY.

IF WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THERE ARE NO DECEASED PEOPLE IN THAT AREA, WE ALLOW FOR BURIAL.

NOW WE TELL THEM, OH, BY THE WAY, YOU OWE US $600.

WELL, I ALREADY OWN THIS PROPERTY AND YOU DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY.

YOU OWN THE RIGHTS TO HAVE TO ALLOW A BURIAL.

OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO REMOVE IT, AND ONCE AGAIN, AS WE ONLY ALLOW BURIALS IN THE ANCIENT SECTION WHERE THERE ARE ROPED OFF AREAS AND THERE'S VERY FEW THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

SO THIS IS A ONE TIME FEE, THE $600, RIGHT? IT IS A ONE TIME FEE, YES.

OKAY, AND SO HAVE PEOPLE ALREADY PAID THAT FOR.

HONESTLY, I CAN'T I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

OKAY, BECAUSE IT'S SO OLD, SO WE DON'T KNOW.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY, SO WE'RE NOT WE DON'T NEED TO GIVE MONEY BACK TO MAKE IT.

NO FAIR. OKAY, SURE.

SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING.

ONE LAST THING ON THAT, WHEN YOU SIT WITH SCOTT AND STAFF AND YOU BUY A PLOT AT THE AT THE CEMETERY, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE--EVERYTHING IS EXPLAINED.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOUR PORTION OF WHAT YOU'RE PAYING IS GOING TO PERPETUAL CARE.

THE ISSUE IS THAT THESE FAMILIES THAT HAVE PURCHASED THESE AREAS A LONG TIME AGO, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE FEE THEN, AND SO NOW WE'RE IMPOSING A FEE AND THEY NEVER KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THIS FEE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

THAT'S THE HARD CONVERSATION TO HAVE, AND TO EXPLAIN IT TO SOMEONE WHO'S GRIEVING ALSO IS DIFFICULT.

AGAIN, SO ON THE SECOND PAGE, THAT'S THE ONLY THING.

EVERYTHING ELSE WE'RE JUST SAYING SAME.

IF YOU TURN THE PAGE AGAIN TO THE THIRD PAGE, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF HIGHLIGHTING.

SO UNDER PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S FOUR ROWS THERE.

THAT'S JUST STRUCKEN THROUGH, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE PRESCHOOL PROGRAM IS NOT IS NOT CONTINUING FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.

SO THOSE ARE ALL STRUCK THROUGH THE NEXT SET OF OF HIGHLIGHTED ROWS AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMMING.

SO AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT AT THE MLK CENTER THERE, AND THEN IF YOU IF YOU GO DOWN FURTHER SUMMER CAMP AT MLK, THERE'S DIFFERENT PRICES FOR MLK VERSUS ATLANTIC REC, AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND THIS IS IN THE OTHER STRUCTURE TOO, IS THAT WE HAVE ONE FEE AND WE CALL IT AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMMING PER WEEK AND SUMMER CAMP PER WEEK AND ADDITIONAL SIBLINGS FOR BOTH AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING AND ALICIA'S DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH THIS, SO THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A DRAFT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS TO YOU ONCE IT'S DONE.

WE HAVE A DRAFT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE REWRITING.

WELL, ALICIA'S REWRITING IT.

THANK YOU, AND WE'RE ESTABLISHING CRITERIA.

SO, LIKE, IF FOR SOME, FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEONE'S ON A FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH OR IF THEIR INCOME IS A CERTAIN LEVEL AND THEY NEED ASSISTANCE, WE HAVE A WE HAVE AN ACTUAL VEHICLE FOR THEM TO GET THAT ASSISTANCE AND TO NOT PAY THE STATED FEE THAT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED INSTEAD OF BUILDING IN DISCOUNTS IN THE FEE STRUCTURE.

WE'RE GOING TO OFFER THE PROGRAM THAT ADDRESSES THAT.

SO THAT'S THE CHANGE FOR THIS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

WHAT IS THE DRASTIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FEE AT MLK AND AT THE REC CENTER? IS IT THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED OR IS IT THE ASSUMPTION THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE.

THE FEE NEEDS TO BE LESS THERE? HE'S GOT THE HISTORY.

YEAH. SO THE ASSUMPTION OR WHAT IT WAS IS THAT IT WAS A TUTORING PROGRAM.

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OKAY, SO THERE WAS CRITERIA.

SO THERE WAS SOME CRITERIA, AND IT GOES BACK TO WHAT CATHERINE SAID IS WE DO WANT TO HAVE PROGRAMMING AT MLK.

WE WANT TO HAVE A SUMMER CAMP, WE WANT TO HAVE AN AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAM, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE IT, I BELIEVE.

SO IN ONE OF THE THOUGHTS IS MAYBE IT'S BASED ON JUST AGE.

IF YOU'RE THIS PARTICULAR AGE, YOU GO TO MLK, AND YES, THOSE FEES WERE DRASTIC.

HOWEVER, THE PLAN IS TO IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, THEN YOU GO THROUGH THAT VEHICLE THEN AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN AWAY TURN AWAY ANY CHILDREN, AND SO TWO THINGS ABOUT THAT, I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN JUST SEEING WHAT THAT CRITERIA IS THAT YOU GUYS COME UP WITH AND SEEING HOW THAT'S FIGURED OUT , BUT I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT FOR WHATEVER THE PROGRAMMING IS, THAT FOR CHILDREN, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS ACROSS THE BOARD, JUST FOR ANYTHING THAT THE CITY OFFERS, THAT WOULD BE MAYBE CONSIDERED TO APPLY FOR THOSE KINDS OF SUBSIDIES, I GUESS WOULD BE THE RIGHT WORD TO TO APPLY FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE OR NOT JUST FOR ANYTHING, NOT JUST FOR SUMMER CAMP OR CHILD CARE, BUT, YOU KNOW, TENNIS LESSONS OR, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT'S FOR ANYTHING.

ANYTHING THAT'S NOT CONTRACTED.

IF IT'S CONTRACTED, THAT'S A CONTRACTOR AND THEY HAVE THEIR BUSINESS, BUT RIGHT NOW, ACTUALLY, THERE IS KIND OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

ALICIA'S BUTTONING IT ALL UP.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S FOR POOL ACCESS, THE WEIGHT ROOM AND SOMETHING ELSE.

THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

THAT'S IT. YOU CAN DO WATER AEROBICS.

WATER AEROBICS. OKAY, AND SO PEOPLE WERE ASKING FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND IT'S LIKE.

WELL, YOU CAN GO TO THE POOL, YOU CAN GO TO A WATER AEROBICS CLASS OR GO TO THE WEIGHT ROOM, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS? THERE'S NOTHING FOR KIDS EXCEPT POOL ADMISSION.

SO WE DECIDED TO ADD THAT, AND NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY WITH THE FEES YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING YOU APPROVE OR GET YOUR SUPPORT ON AN ACTUAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR PROGRAMMING FOR KIDS.

SO THANK YOU, AND THE LAST COMMENT I WOULD JUST MAKE BASED ON SOMETHING YOU SAID, I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING YOU GUYS ARE LOOSELY LOOKING INTO.

LIKE, I LOVE THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NEW IDEAS AND CREATIVE WAYS TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, BUT AS A PARENT WITH MULTIPLE KIDS, OH MY GOD, WHEN YOU HAVE THEM IN SEPARATE LOCATIONS, IT IS NOT GOOD.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, LIKE GETTING FROM ONE PLACE TO THE NEXT.

SO SOMETIMES IT'S EASIER TO HAVE THE KIDS IN THE SAME LOCATION.

WHAT PROGRAMS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I'M JUST SAYING FOR CAMPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

OH MY GOSH. WHEN I'VE GOT ONE IN ONE CAMP AND ONE AT THE OTHER AND THEN I'VE GOT TO PICK THEM UP IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES.

YOU JUST CHAUFFEURING ALL DAY LONG.

SO JUST MY OPINION.

YEAH. HAPPENED TO THE BEST OF US.

[CHUCKLING] YES. THANK YOU, GUYS.

YES, AND IF YOU TURN THE PAGE.

OH, SORRY. I HAVE A QUESTION JUST VERY QUICKLY ON THE ATHLETIC FIELDS.

YES. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT ORGANIZATIONS? THE CURRENT FEES.

YEAH. SO THEY'RE NOT ON THERE.

THERE ARE NO FEES FOR LIKE BABE RUTH, LITTLE LEAGUE.

THERE ARE NO FEES IN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE FOR YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS.

NOW, THE NEXT ONE WE ARE PROPOSING.

YES, I SAW THAT ONE COMING.

YEAH. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT CHAIR IS REGARDING THE ATHLETIC FIELDS IS I CAN TELL YOU WE DO NOT HAVE THAT MANY FIELD RENTALS BESIDES OUR YOUTH SPORT ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE OUR FACILITIES.

VERY RARELY WILL WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT COMES OUT AND RENTS OUR OUR LIKE A FIELD AT YBOR ALVAREZ.

SO YEAH, THOSE FEES DO NOT APPLY TO ANY OF THE YOUTH SPORTS.

OKAY.

IF YOU TURN THE PAGE TO THE LAST PAGE, FOUR OF FOUR, TWO FINAL HIGHLIGHTED ROWS TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND IF YOU COULD TAKE YOUR PEN OUT BECAUSE SINCE I PRINTED THIS JUST A COUPLE HOURS AGO, I'VE ALREADY MADE A TYPO.

SO THE CO-SPONSORED EVENT CLEANUP FEE PER EVENT, WE DO WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO BE A SECURITY DEPOSIT, BUT WHAT STAFF ARE TELLING ME IS THAT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S NEVER REALLY COLLECTED.

IT'S KIND OF A FEE THAT ISN'T REALLY BEING FOLLOWED.

SO WE'D LIKE TO CHANGE IT TO BE A SECURITY DEPOSIT.

SO YOU PAY A SECURITY DEPOSIT AND IF YOU DON'T CLEAN UP, YOU DON'T GET IT BACK.

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SO WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO, SAY SECURITY DEPOSIT, BUT IF YOU COULD TAKE YOUR PEN AND CHANGE THAT TO 100, WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT FEE TO 100 SO THE CITY CAN CLEAN UP FOR $100.

I MEAN, I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY EVEN JUST PAY THAT.

$500 MIGHT BE KIND OF HIGH, BUT $100 MIGHT BE KIND OF LOW IF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO CLEAN UP THEIR OWN MESS.

FIRST OF ALL, YOU'RE RIGHT.

CAN WE CLEAN UP FOR $100? CAN WE CLEAN UP FOR $500? I DON'T EVEN THINK WE CAN CLEAN UP FOR $500, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

HOWEVER, REMEMBER, THESE ARE I THINK THERE'S EITHER SEVEN, SEVEN, EIGHT OR NINE CO-SPONSORED EVENTS, AND SOME OF THESE INCLUDE THE CHRISTMAS LIGHT UP PARADE.

SO A LOT OF THESE ARE CORE FUNCTION, SPECIAL EVENTS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO OUR GOAL IS AND AS LONG AS WE WORK WITH THEM IS, I DO THINK THAT THEY'LL CLEAN UP.

SOME OF THESE EVENTS CHARGING THEM $500, I JUST I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY COULD AFFORD IT, HONESTLY, BUT IS IT LIKE A REFUNDABLE? IT IS, BUT YES, IT IS.

BUT EVEN COMING UP WITH $500, I THINK SOMETIMES FOR SOME OF THE EVENTS AND NOW WE'RE PICKING AND CHOOSING WHO WE'RE COLLECTING THAT $500 FROM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IF THAT NECESSARILY WOULD BE FAIR.

COULD WE RECOMMEND LIKE 250? BECAUSE I KIND OF AGREE THAT I FEEL LIKE SOME PEOPLE WOULD BE LIKE $100, I'M GOING HOME.

SO REMEMBER, THESE ARE EVENTS LIKE SOUNDS ON CENTER, THE CHRISTMAS LIGHT PARADE, UM, EVERYTHING CO SPONSORED. I AGREE WITH YOU, WHOLLY, THAT OUR THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK WITH, WITH THOSE KINDS OF EVENTS ARE VERY KIND TO OUR CITY.

I THINK THAT THEY DO A GREAT JOB HAVING TRASH CANS AND LIKE ALL OF THE THINGS I'M JUST THINKING OF THE ONE TIME ONLY BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE OVERSTRETCHED AS IT IS, YOU KNOW, WITH STAFF AND WHATEVER, LIKE THE ONE TIME IT'S GOING TO COST US IF IT COSTS US $500 IN STAFF TIME, I'M JUST.

YEAH.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK IT'S TOO LOW.

GO AHEAD, MEMBER CHAPMAN, I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH $100 BECAUSE IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE THREE, WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE SOMEBODY $50 TO DELIVER A BEACH WHEELCHAIR, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS, I BELIEVE IT COULD GO FROM ATLANTIC REC CENTER DOWN TO MAIN STREET, MAIN BEACH, RATHER , AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE SOMEBODY $50 FOR THAT, BUT $100 TO CLEAN UP AFTER AN EVENT.

THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BALANCE FROM MY WAY OF THINKING.

SO YOU'RE THINKING $250, IS THAT KIND OF THE CONSENSUS? YEAH, I'M THINKING 2 OR 250.

LIKE YOU SAID, 250 MAY SOUND HIGH.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT $100 IS NOTHING TO PEOPLE ANYMORE.

SO I'M THINKING AT LEAST TWO.

I SAY 200 ONLY BECAUSE I'M WITH A NON-PROFIT AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT COSTS.

EVERY FEE THAT WE GET CHARGED JUST TO THROW AN EVENT PILED ON TOP OF US, AND WE COUNT EVERY SINGLE PENNY, BUT YOU'LL GET IT BACK IF YOU CLEAN UP AFTER YOURSELF, AND WE DO AS AN ORGANIZATION, THAT'S ONE OF OUR MAIN THINGS IS CLEAN UP.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PART OF THE THAT'S WHAT WE DO IS CLEANING UP.

SO WE'LL BUMP IT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT NEXT MONTH AND LET US KNOW WHAT 200 BUCKS WHEN I HEARD 100 WAS GREAT TO THAT POINT.

YEAH, AND TO THAT POINT, AGAIN, WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THOSE THINGS.

I MEAN, MAYBE MAYBE ANOTHER WAY TO DO THAT IS TO SAY THAT YOU WILL BE CHARGED X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IF IT'S NOT CLEANED UP.

SO MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT UP FRONT.

SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING A HARDSHIP ON THEM, BUT IF IT'S NOT CLEANED UP TO YOUR STANDARDS, THEN IT'S A CHARGE LATER.

I'M SURE YOU HAVE A CREDIT CARD ON FILE FOR HOW THEY PAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THERE'S SOME WAYS AROUND THAT. SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT NORMALLY BEING COLLECTED BECAUSE IT'S BEING HANDLED AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD HOPE, BUT THEN IT PUTS A SAFEGUARD IN THERE.

IT DOESN'T PENALIZE PEOPLE WITH MINIMAL FUNDS, BUT, [INAUDIBLE] IF THEY USE A CARD, THEY CAN PUT A HOLD ON IT WITH THE BANK.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY NOT CHARGED.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE MONEY IF YOU NEEDED IT, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

SO YEAH, SO JUST THINK ABOUT THE 200.

ARE YOU GUYS OKAY WITH 200? I THINK YOU GUYS CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT.

YEAH, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.

WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. IT'LL BE HIGHER.

IT'LL BE HIGHER THAN 100.

THE LAST THING ON HERE JUST IS THE IS THERE GOING TO BE LIKE A CLEANUP CRITERIA IN ORDER TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK?

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I'M SURE WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE LIKE THAT.

YES. YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THE LAST THING ON HERE IS JUST WE REALIZE WE DON'T HAVE A FEE.

IF YOU WANT TO CLOSE THE GREENWAY AND HAVE AN EVENT, THERE'S NO FEE.

HAS THERE BEEN QUESTIONS FOR THIS BEFORE? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THIS? I WANT TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF PARTY WE CAN HAVE IN THE GREENWAY, BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS AMAZING.

[CHUCKLING] SO IT IS CONSERVATION PROPERTY.

SO I'M SURE THERE ARE A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS, BUT THERE IS RAISINS STUFF IN THERE.

RIGHT? SO SOME OF THESE ARE RELATED TO SPECIAL EVENTS AND ALSO IS.

YEAH, JUST LIKE I MEAN, CLOSING OFF ANY OTHER PARKING LOT OR PARK, THERE'S A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND THERE NEVER WAS ANYTHING IN THE GREENWAY. SO I MEAN THE GREENWAY IS THERE'S MANY, MANY PEOPLE ON THE GREENWAY AND WE HAVE TO LET OUR RESIDENTS KNOW THAT.

I MEAN, IF SOMEONE'S DOING A RACE OF SORTS, YOU'RE BASICALLY SHUTTING DOWN THE GREENWAY FOR, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S TWO, 3 HOURS OR 4 HOURS, IF I'M RUNNING A 5K OR THAT'S AN EXAGGERATION, BUT [CHUCKLING] JUST WONDERING IF YOU WERE LISTENING, BUT YES, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE FEE.

YOU'RE BASICALLY SHUTTING DOWN A PUBLIC PARK.

SO YEAH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY BEING DONE OR WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN CHARGING FOR NO FEE.

NO FEE. ON THAT PAGE, I THINK THE CITY CHARGING TWO AND $300 FOR A FILMING PERMIT IS PERSONALLY IS A LITTLE LOW.

IF THEY'RE COMING HERE TO MAKE A MOVIE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT BIG BUCKS, AND HOW MUCH DO THEY TIE UP FOR EXAMPLE, CENTER STREET.

SO FOR $200, WE'RE SAYING YOU CAN TIE UP CENTER STREET AND DISRUPT THE RESIDENTS FOR AN ENTIRE DAY.

I JUST THINK IN LIGHT OF SOME OF THE OTHER FEES, TO ME, THAT SEEMS A LITTLE LOW.

I DON'T THINK A FILM COMPANY THAT WANTS TO COME HERE IS GOING TO SAY, OH, WELL, $200 OR $300 IS TOO MUCH, BUT WE'D COME FOR $200.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

THE FILMING.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE JUST HAD ONE HOUSE HUNTERS IS COMING.

OH, AND THEY'RE. HOW MANY DAYS ARE THEY? ONE. JUST ONE DAY.

SO THEY'RE THEY'RE TAKING MAYBE AN HOUR OR 45 MINUTES AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

SNAPSHOTS [INAUDIBLE] WELL THAT'S JUST THAT'S I MEAN WE DON'T TYPICALLY GET THOSE.

YOU COULD HAVE LIKE CRITERIA IF IT'S LIKE A SCHOOL PROJECT OR THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WANTS TO DO IT VERSUS LIKE A MOVIE OR A NATIONAL TV SHOW OR SOMETHING.

BECAUSE I COULD SEE THERE BEING SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS OR I KNOW THERE'S LIKE THE LOCAL GUIDE AND SOME OF THE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO LITTLE FILMING THINGS THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE MORE MONEY, BUT IF YOU GET A MOVIE THAT DECIDES TO COME OR HOUSE HUNTERS, IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE IT SHOULD BE A LITTLE HIGHER.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S LIKE SOME KIND OF CRITERIA FOR THAT.

WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR SURE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SAY LIKE YOU'RE A BIG ORGANIZATION, SO BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WOULD BE SOME WAY THAT YOU COULD KIND OF TRY TO, LIKE, BREAK IT DOWN TO WHERE YOU SEE PEOPLE FILMING VIDEOS OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE SMALLER THINGS.

THEY'RE NOT CLOSING CENTER STREET.

THEY'RE JUST TAKING PICTURES OF EVERYTHING THAT WOULD GET AWFULLY HARD TO ENFORCE.

BUT PEOPLE LIKE MOVIE CREWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO REACH OUT, THEY KNOW TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE FOR FOR THAT.

SO, OKAY, I LIVED IN ATLANTA AND ATLANTA IS LIKE THE FILMING CAPITAL AND LIKE THEY EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE STREET THEY WERE FILMING AT LIKE YOU WOULD LIKE YOU WOULD TRY TO GET YOUR HOUSE IN A MOVIE BECAUSE YOU'D GET PAID LIKE IF THEY WERE FILMING ANY KIND OF ACTUAL SHOW MOVIE, LIKE THEY HAD ALL KINDS OF CRITERIA FOR EXACTLY WHAT IF THEY PARKED IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE AND WANTED TO USE AN OUTLET, LIKE THEY WOULD PAY LIKE ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

I'M NOT SAYING TO THAT EXTENT, BUT THEY DEFINITELY HAD LIKE CRITERIA FOR WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE CHARGING FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT ANYTHING FROM LIKE A COLLEGE PROJECT TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE HULK WAS FILMED AND WE LIVED THERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE AND THEN BE ABLE TO SPEND MORE TIME ONCE WE GET TO THIS, AND THESE ARE STILL WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THESE AGAIN NEXT MONTH.

SO IF WE HAVE ANY BIG CONCERNS, WE CAN COME TO YOU GUYS.

YEAH, AND SO LET'S START LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH THIS SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE HEADING.

FIRST, IT'S ORGANIZED DIFFERENTLY.

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SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT A QUICK REFERENCE GUIDE TOO, AND SO KIND OF HOPEFULLY IT'S INTUITIVE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

SO ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, WE'VE GOT THE NON-RESIDENT ANNUAL FEE AND THEN THE ID CARD FOR REPLACEMENT.

NO CHANGES THERE.

YOUTH SERVICES, WE JUST KIND OF BROKE IT UP INTO SUMMER CAMP OR PROGRAMMING SUMMER CAMP AND THEN SWIMMING LESSONS, AND AGAIN, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE SWIM LESSONS.

THAT'S ALL THE SAME THERE.

NOW HERE'S WHERE YOU GET INTO THE REASONING BEHIND WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING NOT GOING FORWARD WITH A TEN DAY PASS IF WE GO WITH THIS STRUCTURE.

AQUATICS HAS IT THE NEXT SECTION, THE FITNESS AND WEIGHT ROOM PASSES AND MEMBERSHIPS HAS IT AND THE COMBINATION PASSES AND MEMBERSHIPS HAS IT.

THERE'S A DAILY RATE, THERE'S A MONTH PASS AND THEN THERE'S A MONTH TO MONTH MEMBERSHIP AND AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE OFFERINGS WATER AEROBICS FOR EXAMPLE, THERE USED TO BE AN ANNUAL PASS, THEN THERE WAS A THREE MONTH PASS. NOW THERE'S RIGHT NOW THERE'S A FOUR MONTH PASS.

EVERYONE WANTS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MONTHS BASED ON HOW LONG THEY'RE HERE.

SO WE COULD DO A DAILY THE MONTH PASS BASICALLY IS A BETTER DEAL THAN THE TEN DAY PASS.

SO WHY NOT HAVE A MONTH THEN HAVE TEN DAYS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO A MONTH TO MONTH, YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR AT LEAST TWO MONTHS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT YOU TO SIGN UP FOR ONE MONTH AND CANCEL AFTER A MONTH.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO PAY FOR TWO MONTHS AND THEN IT'S MONTH TO MONTH.

YOU CANCEL ANY TIME, OR YOU CAN GET EVEN MORE OF A DISCOUNT AND PAY THE ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP, AND YOU'RE LOCKED IN FOR THAT.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION? JUST IN GENERAL, IS THERE SOME SORT OF MATHEMATICAL FORMULA? SO ONCE YOU DETERMINE WHAT THE CITY RATE IS, IT'S THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD TO GET TO A NON CITY RATE, TYPICALLY 25% OR 20? 25%, TYPICALLY, THERE ARE SOME THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

WE ROUNDED IT UP A DOLLAR OR TWO BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE $38.

YEAH. SO THE WAY THESE ARE STRUCTURED IS THE ONE MONTH PASS.

SO LET'S JUST LOOK AT, FOR EXAMPLE, AQUATICS, ONE MONTH INDIVIDUAL PASS FOR A RESIDENT IS $40 THE MONTH TO MONTH IF YOU PAY MONTH TO MONTH, YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE $5 PER MONTH.

OKAY? IF YOU WANT TO GO FOR A FULL YEAR, YOU GET ONE MONTH FREE.

IT'S LIKE THAT ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE NEW THE NEW STRUCTURE TO HELP WITH ALL THE PASSES.

IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER ON US IN THE OFFICE AS WELL.

THE COMBINATION PASSES.

IF YOU TAKE THE AQUATIC FEE AND THE FITNESS AND WEIGHT ROOM FEE AND ADD THEM TOGETHER, THEY WERE THE SAME.

SO WHAT'S THE POINT IN GETTING THAT COMBINATION PASS? SO WHAT WE DID IS WE MADE THAT $5 CHEAPER IF YOU GET THE COMBO BECAUSE THEN THAT WAY WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, THEY SAVE $5 AND THEN IF THEY WANT TO DO MONTH TO MONTH, IT'S $5 CHEAPER AND THEN AGAIN IT'S 11 MONTHS INSTEAD OF A 12 MONTH MEMBERSHIP.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO DIGEST.

IS THERE NOT A FAMILY ANNUAL COMBINATION? I JUST SEE THE INDIVIDUALS ON THE COUPLES.

YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S NOT.

WELL, THERE'S NOT PROBABLY BECAUSE, AND THE FITNESS AND WEIGHT ROOM, THERE ISN'T A FAMILY BECAUSE WE CAN'T LET KIDS OR.

OKAY, YEAH. OKAY, SO I KNOW YOU'LL TAKE SOME TIME TO DIGEST THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS LIKE INITIALLY THAT YOU HAVE ON OUR MATH OR ANYTHING? HOW DID YOU WHAT CRITERIA DID YOU USE TO COME UP WITH THESE RATES? WELL, THE BASE RATES ARE THE BASE RATES.

THERE ARE PROPOSED RATES.

IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN? OR DO YOU MEAN LIKE HOW I BUILT IT? HOW DID IT GET BUILT? I MEAN, I BELIEVE WE JUST SPENT BIG BUCKS ON A STUDY TO LOOK AT THE CITY'S RATES.

DID THAT GET USED OR.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, I'M JUST CHECKING BECAUSE WE'RE FAMOUS FOR DOING STUDIES, AND THEN SO THIS ACTUALLY GOES ALONG WITH THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU GET PEOPLE IN A MONTH TO MONTH OR AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP, YOU RETAIN THEM.

OKAY. VERSUS I GOT TO GO BACK IN THAT OFFICE EVERY MONTH OR EVERY THREE MONTHS OR EVERY FOUR MONTHS OR EVERY HOWEVER LONG THEY HAVE A PASS FOR, BUT THIS IT JUST IT'S KIND OF LIKE

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SO IT ACTUALLY GOES RIGHT INTO THE RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU. IF YOU TURN THE PAGE, YOU'LL SEE FACILITY RENTALS INDOOR.

THERE ARE NO CHANGES, BUT WE JUST LUMPED THINGS TOGETHER.

SO IF IT'S FULL DAY AND HALF DAY, YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBERS SLASH THE OTHER NUMBER.

SO YOU HAVE A NUMBER FOR FULL DAY AND WE PUT A SLASH IN THERE AND THE NUMBER FOR HALF DAY, ALL IT DOES IS JUST SHRINK IT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IT AND READ IT A LITTLE EASIER THAN SCROLLING FOR DAYS, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THOSE ARE JUST THE RESIDENT RATES THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE LIKE THE NON-PROFITS AND THERE ARE CERTAIN RATES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T SEE A NON PROFIT.

THE FACILITY RENTALS INDOOR.

YEAH, SO THEY'RE LISTED ACTUALLY AS COMMERCIAL AND NON PROFIT.

YES. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT EACH ONE AUDITORIUM, PRIVATE AUDITORIUM, COMMERCIAL AUDITORIUM, CIVIC NON-PROFIT.

OH, I'M SORRY. IT'S A LOT.

MY EYES WERE GOING. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE TRY TO MAKE IT CONSOLIDATED.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE OLD.

YOU'RE FINE.

THANK YOU, SCOTT.

IF YOU LOOK IN THE MIDDLE SECTION, THAT'S FACILITY RENTALS, OUTDOOR.

NOW, HERE'S THE NEW STUFF ALL THE WAY AT THE END.

AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT SECTION, WE ADDED CITY BASED, NONPROFIT YOUTH SPORT ORGANIZATIONS AND LEAGUES CURRENTLY CURRENTLY WATER SPORTS, YOUTH SPORT ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE OUR POOLS ARE CHARGED $25 AN HOUR.

THAT HASN'T BEEN A FEE THAT HAS GONE TO THE COMMISSION IN THE FORM OF THIS.

IT'S BEEN A FEE THAT HAS BEEN ASSESSED OR ADDRESSED, ASSIGNED TO SWIM TEAMS THROUGH A CONTRACT, THROUGH A FACILITY AGREEMENT.

SO THERE IS A FEE THAT EXISTS, BUT I WASN'T SURE WHY IT WASN'T IN HERE.

IT JUST HAPPENED TO JUST NOT BE IN HERE.

I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY REASON.

IT JUST, SO NOW IT'S IN HERE, AND HERE'S THE LAND BASED, LAND BASED SPORTS, WHICH ARE ON FIELDS, COURTS, PARKS. WE'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO FEE, AND THIS IS AND HERE'S THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN.

AQUATIC BASED SPORTS ARE BEING CHARGED, LAND BASED SPORTS ARE NOT.

SO WE SEE IT'S HARD TO DEFEND AS STAFF WHEN WE'RE ASKED WHY SO INDUSTRY STANDARD ACTUALLY LOWER THAN INDUSTRY STANDARD IS TO CHARGE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE BABE RUTH $4 PER PLAYER PER SEASON.

THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD.

WELL, IT WAS STANDARD SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START BECAUSE THAT'S ALL PLAYERS, AND SO THERE'S NO DELINEATION BETWEEN COUNTY KIDS AND CITY KIDS, NOT IN OUR PROPOSED.

NOW THE REASON FOR THAT IS.

WELL, I DON'T HAVE THAT COMPLETELY FORMULATED YET.

I WILL NEXT MONTH. I'LL HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR YOU NEXT.

WELL, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? AND THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IT SPECIFICALLY IS BECAUSE THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS IN THE CITY COMMISSION TO HAVE TO REMAIN AT YBOR ALVAREZ TO THE COST OF $400,000 A YEAR FOR THOSE FIELDS, AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING TO OFFSET THAT FROM THE CITY TAXPAYERS TO SOME DEGREE.

SO I JUST THAT WHOLE NUMBER IS VERY ALARMING TO ME, AND I'M JUST INTERESTED HOW WE'RE GOING TO.

I'M NOT SURE THEY CAN DO THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT, ISN'T THE AIRPORT TAKING OVER THAT WHOLE [INAUDIBLE]? IT HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED, BUT THE PLAN, AS I UNDERSTAND IT AND WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THE IDEAL SITUATION, TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE IDEAL SITUATION WOULD BE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO LEASE THAT LAND FOR THE SOCCER AND SOFTBALL FIELDS AS THEY ARE TO AVOID.

THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME IMPACT FEES THAT WOULD GRANT MONEY WE'D HAVE TO GIVE BACK IF WE MOVED.

THERE WAS A WHOLE BUNCH THAT WAS KIND OF CONFUSING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S THE GOAL, IS TO STAY THERE AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE CHARGING, WHETHER IT'S THE ORGANIZATIONS THEMSELVES, TO OFFSET SOME OF SOME OF THAT.

THIS WON'T COME CLOSE TO OFFSETTING? NO, THAT WAS WONDERING THAT SEEMS LIKE NO IT'S MORE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, WATER BASED VERSUS LAND BASED FEE.

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SEEING IF THERE COULD BE ANY COUNTY INVOLVEMENT THERE AND SEEING IF THAT EVEN CAN BE DONE.

SO, YES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

SO IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL MEMBER GRANT ON THAT PROPERTY OUT AT YBOR.

SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND.

SO IT'S $25 AN HOUR TO USE THE POOL, ALL SIX LANES OR ALL OR ALL FOUR LANES AT MLK, THE WHOLE POOL, AND THEN IT'S $4 A PLAYER PER SEASON.

YES. SO, SO EACH PERSON WOULD BE CHARGED $4 FOR USING SOMETHING FOR LIKE THREE MONTHS.

YES. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS WHEN THE LEAGUES ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR THE SEASON WITH US AND SAY, I NEED THE FIELD FOR X AMOUNT OF NIGHTS, THEY KNOW HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE ON THE ROSTERS.

YEAH, AND TEAMS, AND LET'S SAY THEY HAVE 100 KIDS.

THE LEAGUE PAYS THE CITY $400 FOR THE SEASON TO HELP OFFSET I'M THINKING PER TEAM AND IT'LL EACH WELL IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE BUT IT JUST SOUNDED PRETTY LOW.

I'M FINE. IN OTHER WORDS, YEAH, IF EACH TEAM IS ONLY SPENDING $60 BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEAGUE IS GOING TO PAY THIS, NOT EACH INDIVIDUAL TEAM.

THIS WOULD BE CHARGED TO THE LEAGUE WHEN THEY ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.

JUST LIKE THE SWIM TEAMS PAY THE $25 AN HOUR WHEN THEY ENTER INTO THEIR AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY ON THEIR POOL USAGE.

GOTCHA. WHAT ABOUT.

I DO APOLOGIZE. SORRY.

EVENTS WHERE KIDS ARE SKATEBOARDING.

DO WE HAVE TO COUNT THOSE CHILDREN? AND. SO THAT'S A SPECIAL EVENT.

THAT'S A SPECIAL EVENT.

IF YOU HAD A SKATING LEAGUE OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU WANT PRIORITY USAGE OVER THE OVER THE SKATE PARK ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT'S A THEN THAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S NEW.

NOT FOR EVENTS.

IT'S A SPECIAL EVENT.

YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, AND THEN THINGS THAT ARE HANDLED WITH A CONTRACT AGREEMENT, THOSE ARE DIFFERENT TO THOSE ARE 80/20 SPLIT.

THIS IS LEAGUE PLAY, BASICALLY, AND WE ARE LOOKING INTO ORGANIZATIONS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO FACILITIES.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, BABE RUTH HAS CONTRIBUTED ALMOST OVER $40,000 IN THIS PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS FOR NEW BACKSTOPS.

YOU KNOW, A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF FENCING.

SO OFFSETTING A $400, LET'S SAY IT'S A $400 FEE PER SEASON WHEN THE LEAGUE JUST PUT $40,000 INTO OUR FACILITIES THE DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO RECOMMEND WAIVING THOSE FEES IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WHERE ORGANIZATIONS DONATE OR PUT BACK INTO OUR FACILITIES AN AMOUNT HIGHER THAN THIS $4 PER PLAYER PER SEASON FEE.

THEY'RE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT USE IT, RIGHT? NO, THERE ARE MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE OUR FACILITIES.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXCLUSIVITY.

BABE RUTH FIELDS OTHER PEOPLE USE THE BABE RUTH FIELDS BESIDES BABE RUTH.

YES. THERE'S NO EXCLUSIVITY ON ANY OF OUR PROPERTIES AND ANY OTHER ENTITY CAN COME INTO.

WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT EXCLUSIVE.

WHAT I'M ASKING IS WHAT OTHER BASEBALL USES THE FIELDS.

OH, I MEAN, USERS USE THERE'S NO OTHER LEAGUE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

OKAY, YEAH, THERE'S THE WAY THE BABE RUTH LEAGUE WORKS.

YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO BABE RUTH LEAGUES.

RIGHT, BUT ELM STREET NOW, ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE WANTS TO USE THE FIELD FOR WHATEVER REASON.

OR MAYBE THERE'S A MASSIVE TOURNAMENT.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS.

NO, I WAS JUST THINKING THE USE WAS BY THE SAME PEOPLE.

SO I MISUNDERSTOOD.

YOU'RE RIGHT. NO, THAT'S OKAY, I WAS MAKING A SUBTLE POINT.

I DO KNOW ABOUT A TOURNAMENT THAT THEY HAD A POLICE AND THE FIREMEN PLAYED AN EVENT.

AT THE BASEBALL FIELD, IT WAS A SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT.

IS THAT HOW YOU WOULD LOOK AT IT AS WELL? THAT'S A SPECIAL EVENT.

SO, OKAY. IT'S A SPECIAL EVENT.

YEAH, AND THAT'S WITH OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN HANDLED DIFFERENTLY.

YEAH OR ANY ORGANIZATION THAT DECIDES TO USE THAT FACILITY WHEN BABE RUTH'S NOT USING IT.

IS THAT HOW YOU WOULD PUT A PERMIT IN FOR THAT? OR WHAT'S THE QUESTION? I MEAN, IF YOU DECIDED TO HAVE AN ORGANIZATION PLAY ANOTHER ORGANIZATION, [INAUDIBLE] PLAYS [INAUDIBLE] IN A SOFTBALL.

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SO JUST JUST A QUICK.

YEAH. JUST ADDING TO THAT IS WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY AT THAT POINT WORK WITH BABE RUTH TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE GAMES OR AREN'T HAVING A TOURNAMENT WHEN YOU KNOW BECAUSE WE CO-SPONSOR THEM.

WE WORK WITH THOSE YOUTH SPORT ORGANIZATIONS.

SO IF SOMEBODY WERE TO BE COMING IN.

ALL RIGHT, WOULD THE FIELDS HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED ANYWAY? AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT ADJUSTING FIELDS, BUT THEN REACH OUT TO THESE YOUTH SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS, WHOEVER THEY ARE, EVEN IF BABE RUTH ELM STREET LITTLE LEAGUE, AMELIA ISLAND YOUTH SOCCER, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT HAVING GAMES AND SUCH OR A TOURNAMENT DURING THAT TIME.

JUST TO YOUR NOTE, WE'VE ALWAYS AGREED WITH THE CITY THAT WE WOULD TURN OVER FIELDS AND CANCEL OUR PROGRAMS IF THERE WAS A CITYWIDE PROGRAM THAT WAS BEING ASKED TO USE THE FIELDS.

IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY BECAUSE OF THE MERE FACT THAT THE CITY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S THEIR FIELDS.

IT'S NOT BABE RUTH'S FIELDS, AND THEY OWN THOSE FIELDS.

WE MAY MAINTAIN THEM FOR THEM AS PART OF OUR AGREEMENT, BUT OUR AGREEMENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FIELDS ARE USED PROPERLY AND THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL US IF WE'RE NOT USING THE PROPERTY CORRECTLY AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT I KNOW OF ARE GOING TO TAKE THE LEAD THAT WE DID AND WORK WITH THE CITY AND TRYING TO ENHANCE THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS CITY, BECAUSE GOING FORWARD AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT ARE GOVERNING DEPARTMENTS LIKE THE DEPARTMENT OF RECREATION AND HOW MUCH MONEY CAN BE SPENT, THEY HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT THEY WANT AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM GOING FORWARD, AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, AND I'M NOT TALKING ON BEHALF OF BABE RUTH, I'M TALKING ON BEHALF OF PARKS AND REC.

PARKS AND REC IS OUR FIRST NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

HOW WE CAN PROVE IT.

HOW WE CAN INCREASE OUR VISIBILITY TO THE PUBLIC, AND NUMBER THREE, AND MOST IMPORTANT, THAT WE GET EVERY CITIZEN OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO ENJOY OUR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I WOULD URGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT, EVEN IF IT'S $2 A NONRESIDENT FEE FOR LIKE THE YOUTH SPORTS, BECAUSE WE'VE SAT HERE FOR MONTHS AND TALKED ABOUT HOW THE COUNTY GIVES US NOTHING, AND THAT'S A BIG ISSUE.

SO IF YOU SAY A CITY RESIDENT PAYS $4 A PLAYER, EVEN IF IT'S $6 FOR A NON RESIDENT, AT LEAST IT'S MORE PALATABLE TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE CITY RESIDENTS AND I THINK YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THAT, PLEASE.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT, IF YOU IF YOU TURN THE PAGE TO THE PAGE THREE OF THREE.

EVERYTHING ELSE THERE IS IS THE SAME.

THE LAST PAGE JUST KIND OF GOES.

THE CHANGES ARE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.

YOU'LL SEE THE CO-SPONSORED EVENT CLEANUP FEE WHERE WE'RE ASKING AGAIN, CHANGE TO SECURITY DEPOSIT AND WE'RE GOING TO THAT $500 WILL CHANGE THE SECURITY DEPOSIT AND CHANGE IT TO, LET'S SAY, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 200 AND 250.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.

IF YOU GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, YOU'LL SEE THE CLOSURE OF GREENWAY.

IT'S ACTUALLY UNDER STREET CLOSURE FEES THAT REALLY WERE TO PUT THAT.

SO WE PUT IT THERE, AND THEN IF YOU GO FURTHER DOWN UNDER THE CEMETERY SECTION, THAT'S WHERE YOU WILL SEE WHERE WE'RE RECOMMENDING REMOVE THAT FEE FOR THE PERPETUAL CARE OF THE ANCIENT SECTION.

SO I HOPE YOU SEE THAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ORGANIZE THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH THE CONSOLIDATED FEE STRUCTURE.

THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMENTS MADE AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL THAT THE CURRENT STRUCTURE IS JUST SO LONG AND SO MANY PAGES, AND SO WE TRIED TO MAKE IT LOOK SMALLER AND HAVE THESE KIND OF SIDE BY SIDE, YOU KNOW, THE FULL DAY AND HALF DAY FEES ON THE SAME LINE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND ELIMINATING SOME OF THE

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WE ARE RECOMMENDING THIS STRUCTURE.

MEMBER CHAPMAN YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE BEACH ACCESS CHAIR OR THE BEACH WHEELCHAIR DELIVERY FEE.

WE WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF YOU SO, WE WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE CHANGED.

ANY FEES THAT YOU WANT TO SEE GO AWAY.

WE'LL TAKE THAT TO THE COMMISSION.

SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE'LL GO TO THE COMMISSION WITH BOTH OF THESE.

HERE'S WHAT WE RECOMMENDED TO THE PRAC.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AND HERE'S WHAT YOU ALL HAVE SAID.

YOU SUPPORT THIS, BUT WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES OR YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION AND TAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND YOUR SUPPORT IF WE GET IT WITH US WITH CHANGES THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING.

SO YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THAT DATE.

LET ME PUT IT IN HERE AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

SO WHEN ARE YOU TAKING THAT TO THE COMMISSION? WE DON'T KNOW. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE READY WHEN THEY ASK FOR IT BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE ASKING THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR IT.

SO DO YOU WANT OUR SUGGESTIONS EMAILED TO YOU TO INCORPORATE OR DO WE NEED TO MEET ABOUT THIS, THE NEXT MEETING OR IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH EVERYTHING.

IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE KNEW, YOU KNOW, JUST DON'T EMAIL ALL OF YOU BECAUSE SUNSHINE, BUT IF YOU EMAIL US AND SAY, I RECOMMEND THIS, I RECOMMEND THAT WE'LL INCLUDE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT.

YES, EXACTLY.

OKAY, THANK YOU. WE THINK ALIKE A LOT.

YEAH. WE'LL TAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND SAY, OKAY, BEACH WHEELCHAIR MEMBER CHAPMAN SAID THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'LL INCLUDE EVERYTHING AND THEN WE'LL PUT IT IN THE PACKET AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND IF YOU COULD JUST EMAIL ME THAT AND THEN I WILL COMPILE EVERY ONE OF THOSE COMMENTS AND WE WILL PROVIDE IT TO HER.

SHE GETS A TON OF EMAILS, SO JUST IF YOU CAN EMAIL THEM TO ME, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, PLEASE GO THROUGH IT ALL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST CALL ME AND I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH IT, AND THEN THAT CAN HELP MAKE YOU CAN MAKE YOUR DECISIONS OFF THAT AS WELL, BUT YES, IF WE COULD GET AN EMAIL PRIOR JUST SO THEN WE CAN BE READY FOR THE CONVERSATION AND THEN YES, PLEASE BRING IT BACK UP AT THE NEXT MEETING AND ALL THESE WILL BE ONCE AGAIN POSTED ON THAT AGENDA. SO THE COMMUNITY SEES IT AS WELL, BUT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO BE READY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

IF YOU WANT A FEE REMOVED, WE CAN BE ALL RIGHT, WELL, THIS IS WHY WE PUT IT THERE AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK, HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THEN.

SO PLEASE EMAIL IT TO ME.

I WILL COMPILE ALL THE EMAILS AND GIVE IT TO HER WITH ONE DOCUMENT.

ONE QUESTION. THE FEES THAT YOU HAVE SUGGESTED FOR THE CURRENT IS GOOD FOR ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS? YEAH, IT'S USUALLY A YEAR.

SO YEAH, IT USUALLY GOES BY THE YEAR THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO EVERY YEAR THE COMMISSION DOES APPROVE A FEE SCHEDULE.

SO THIS WOULD BE FOR 23-24.

YEAH, SO DEPENDING ON HOW THIS WORKS, BECAUSE WHEN CATHERINE WAS HIRED, THE NEW DIRECTOR WAS GOING TO LOOK AT OUR FEE SCHEDULE.

IF THEY ASK FOR IT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, IT COULD BE THAT IT'S GOING TO CHANGE OCTOBER 1ST OF 2023, WHICH IS OUR FISCAL YEAR, WHICH I THINK WOULD HAPPEN, WHICH, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE KNOW IT, IT'S GOING TO BE THERE OR THEY MIGHT BE IMPLEMENTED SOONER THIS FISCAL YEAR.

I KIND OF FORESEE IT BEING OCTOBER 1ST OF 2023, WHICH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS IN RELATION TO THAT.

HOW IT USED TO WORK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CHANGED AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT LATER QUICKLY, IS WHEN WE WOULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING OR DECIDE THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

IT WENT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

IT DIDN'T GO DIRECTLY TO THE COMMISSION.

RIGHT. FOR FEES? WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT FEES, BUT MOST ANYTHING I THOUGHT LIKE WHEN WE DID THE ASSESSMENT AND ACTION PLAN THAT WENT TO THE CITY MANAGER, IT DID NOT GO DIRECTLY TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

SO EVERYTHING THAT I DO AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AS A DEPARTMENT THAT GOES TO COMMISSION DEFINITELY GOES THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE I REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

OKAY, BUT IT'LL HAVE THE DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDATION, YOUR SUPPORT AND RECOMMENDATION, ANY CHANGES AND IT'LL GO AS A PACKAGE.

OKAY, AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER CAN PROVIDE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS AND YES.

OKAY, AND THEN THE OTHER THING, BECAUSE I HAVE A THING ABOUT PICKLEBALL, SO

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I JUST WANT IT A LITTLE BIT CLEARER FOR ME.

CITY RESIDENTS PAY ONE FEE FOR A MONTH PASS AND THAT WOULD OPEN UP THE COURTS RIGHT.

SO WE USED TO HAVE A KEY A COURT KEY FEE, AND THE COMMISSION, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, REMOVED THAT FEE.

THEY WANTED THE COURTS ACCESSIBLE.

SO WE HAVE THE TOURNAMENT COMING UP.

WE'RE GOING TO DO MULTIPLE TOURNAMENTS AND WE JUST STARTED THE LEAGUE.

SO WE'RE CAPTURING PICKLEBALL REVENUE THROUGH PROGRAMMING INSTEAD OF COURT ACCESS.

LIKE IT, YEAH. BECAUSE THE OF WHAT HAPPENED.

GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FEES.

I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT.

I MEAN, IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SCOTT. YOU CAN EMAIL HIM, BUT YOU CAN CALL ME, TOO IF YOU NEED ME.

YEAH. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT IS, IF YOU ARE READING THROUGH THIS AND YOU SEE A FEE THAT YOU'RE LIKE, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THIS FEE IN THERE? PLEASE KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND TOO.

IF YOU FEEL A FEE SHOULD BE CHANGED, IF YOU FEEL A FEE SHOULD BE ADDED, IF YOU FEEL A FEE SHOULD BE REMOVED.

I MEAN, THE MORE WE DISCUSS IT, THE BETTER THIS FEE SCHEDULE IS GOING TO BE.

SO AS YOU GO THROUGH IT, KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL.

THANK YOU. I CAN GO RIGHT INTO STAFF COMMENTS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

[ 7. STAFF COMMENTS]

I'M SORRY.

YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

YES. GO AHEAD.

OKAY, THEY'RE ALL ON YOU.

SO YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE OUR MONTHLY STAFF REPORT FROM SCOTT IN YOUR EMAIL.

OKAY, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DISC GOLF.

SO WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE THEY'RE REALLY WANTING TO SEE DISC GOLF IN THE CITY.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A POSSIBLE NINE BASKET COURSE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT CENTRAL PARK.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE WERE LOOKING AT THE GOLF COURSE, NOT SURE ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE RIGHT NOW, BUT PROBABLY LEANING MORE TOWARDS A PARK.

SO I'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR THAT.

AND IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE VERY LITTLE COST BECAUSE THERE'S A DONATION THAT SOMEONE MIGHT BE DONATING THE BASKETS.

SO GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN WORK WITH THEM AND MAKE THIS WORK.

WE ARE VERY SHORT STAFFED IN OUR PARKS DIVISION.

WE HAD THREE PEOPLE WORKING TODAY.

THREE. SO WE NEED YOUR HELP TO WHEN YOU HEAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRASH OR MOWING OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE 12 TO 13 PEOPLE IN THAT DIVISION.

SO WE'RE DOWN SIX.

WE HAVE A SUPERINTENDENT POSITION OPEN.

WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE WORKER THREE, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO A FOREMAN, AND THEN FOUR OTHER VACANCIES, AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE ARE SICK, THEN WE HAVE WHAT HAPPENS TODAY WHEN WE ONLY HAD THREE PEOPLE HAPPENS.

SO THINGS AREN'T GETTING DONE, AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO GET DONE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE TRASH.

I FEEL LIKE ALL THE STAFF'S DOING TRASH SPRAYING OF BALL FIELDS.

WE IF WE LET IT GO, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE MONEY TRYING TO FIX WEEDS, PESTS IN OUR IN OUR BALL FIELDS AND OUR PLAYING SURFACES.

WE ARE CONTRACTING OUT A FULL APPLICATION, ONE TIME APPLICATION OF ALL OF OUR BALL FIELDS; WE HAVE TO.

THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THIS MONTH OR NEXT MONTH.

THIS WEEK, APRIL 20TH.

OH, RIGHT, YOU KNOW THE DATE.

[CHUCKLING] SO WE HAVE A LOT OF CAPACITY IN OUR PERSONNEL BUDGET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY VACANCIES.

SO WE'RE USING THAT CAPACITY AND WE HAVE TO GET WE HAVE TO GET AHEAD OF THAT OR WE'RE GOING TO BE PLAYING CATCH UP FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.

SO THAT'S COMING.

TALK ABOUT JOBS.

SCOTT AND I WERE OUT THIS MORNING IN THE WIND LOOKING AT THE [INAUDIBLE] AT MAIN BEACH.

THANK YOU, AND SO THOSE WILL BE ADDRESSED STARTING TOMORROW AND ALL THE BEACH ACCESSES, AND SO WE HAD STAFF OUT THERE TODAY, TOO, AND IT WOULD BE JUST FUNNY IF WE WERE BLOWING THEM OFF AND SHOVELING THEM TODAY BECAUSE IT WAS SUPER WINDY THIS MORNING.

IT JUST WOULD HAVE BEEN HILARIOUS.

SO ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO GET TAKEN CARE OF TOMORROW.

IF IT TAKES LONGER, THEN IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT MAIN BEACH IS GETTING ADDRESSED TOMORROW.

WE GOT TO BRING A LITTLE TRACTOR IN.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT I LEFT OUT? ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? YES, BECAUSE SOMEBODY ASKED ME.

YOU'RE ADVERTISING FOR A WEEKEND POSITION.

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GENERAL PARK MAINTENANCE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE GOING TO DO ON A WEEKEND.

THEY SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'LL ASK EVERYTHING.

OUR PARKS ARE VERY BUSY ON THE WEEKENDS.

[LAUGHTER] I'M OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS, BUT THEY HAD IN THEIR MIND, THIS GUY, THIS PERSON IS GOING TO BE OUT MOWING THE GRASS ON THE WEEKEND WHEN EVERYBODY'S THERE.

OH, THERE MAY BE SOME MOWING THAT HAPPENS, BUT IT'S MOSTLY MAKING SURE ALL THE FACILITY RENTALS, THE PAVILIONS AND I MEAN EVERYTHING A LOT HAPPENS ON THE WEEKEND AND WE NEVER HAVE SOMEONE THERE.

WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT BRINGING HIM ON BOARD.

HE'S SUPER EXCITED.

SO GREAT ADDITION TO OUR PARKS DIVISION AND MUCH NEEDED RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. YEAH, AND I'M INTERESTED IN ONLY BECAUSE IT'S MY PROFESSION AND MY OTHER LIFE IS, IS WHAT IS...

WITH TRYING TO GET A FULL STAFF, WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST HURDLES YOU GUYS ARE SEEING? I MEAN, IS IT THE SALARY? IS IT HOUSING? YEAH, I WOULD THINK THAT VERY MUCH.

IT'S YOU KNOW, THE SALARIES ARE REALLY GOOD, ACTUALLY, BUT IT'S GREAT, I LOVE THE JOB, BUT WHERE AM I GOING TO LIVE? YEAH. SO AND THAT'S FOR THE HIGHER PAYING POSITIONS, AND IS THAT THE PRIMARY THING THAT YOU GUYS ARE SEEING.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

I DID MISS THAT. WHAT WAS IT? FINDING A PLACE TO LIVE.

BUYING A HOUSE VERSUS RENTING, AND THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ON THE ISLAND THEN OFF ISLAND.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I WAS JUST MAKING SURE I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THERE.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE SHADE COVERINGS AT THE PLAYGROUNDS? YES.

[INAUDIBLE] I THINK WELL, NOT THIS WEEK.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT HOT, BUT WHENEVER IT WAS REALLY HOT, LIKE LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE, I TOOK MY SON AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY A BUNCH OF KIDS THERE AND NOBODY WAS ON THE PLAYGROUND. THEY WERE JUST LIKE RUNNING IN THE FIELD AT MAIN BEACH BECAUSE IT WAS SO HOT TO TOUCH, AND I'M LIKE, IT'S MARCH RIGHT NOW.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE UP BEFORE SUMMER.

YES. YEAH, I'LL BE UP BEFORE SUMMER, RIGHT.

SCOTT AND I MET WITH OUR WITH OUR CONTRACTOR ON GOOD FRIDAY TO GET HIM GOING, AND SO WE HAVE THINGS ROUTING AROUND THE CITY RIGHT NOW FOR APPROVAL AND SIGNATURE TO GET THE STRUCTURES FIXED SO THAT THE SHADE STRUCTURE OR THE SHADE FABRIC CAN GO BACK UP.

OKAY, AND THEN THEY'RE DOING SOME OTHER REPAIRS AS WELL AROUND THE CITY.

THE MAIN BEACH ONE GETS REALLY HOT.

YEAH, THAT'S HE KNOWS THAT'S HIS PRIORITY.

SO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER.

THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO GO

[8. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]

ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE? YES, GO AHEAD. HOLD ON.

GO AHEAD. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME WALLY AND ANYBODY WHO DOES NOT KNOW HIM.

I'VE ONLY JUST MET HIM IN PERSON, BUT HIS REPUTATION PRECEDES HIM, AND ALL THINGS SKATING ON THIS ISLAND GO THROUGH HIM, ARE TAUGHT BY HIM.

EVERYBODY KNOWS HIM. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND AS A PERSON WITH A KID WHO SKATES WELL, TWO OF THEM THAT SKATE, WE'RE EXCITED AND I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT I MEANT TO ASK YOU BEFORE YOU WRAPPED UP THE THAT ANNEXATION OF THE NORTH PART OF THE SKATE PARK.

DID THAT IS THERE AN UPDATE ON THAT? SO I GO BEFORE THE PAB, PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD.

THAT WAS RIGHT TOMORROW NIGHT.

OKAY, SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

YES. SO AND IT'S LOOKING FAVORABLE, AND THEN SO ONCE THAT GOES THROUGH, THEN IT GOES DOWN THE LINE AND THEN WE'LL BE MEETING WITH THE WHOLE GROUP.

SUPER. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

IN RELATION TO THAT WHEN SOMEBODY POSTED THAT ON FACEBOOK, AND I DON'T LIKE TO ANSWER THINGS ON FACEBOOK, BUT PEOPLE WERE ON THERE GOING, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD CONDOS THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD HOUSES THERE.

THEY'RE GOING TO DIVIDE IT UP, AND I WENT, NO, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S ABOUT A SKATEPARK, AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE SAID, WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON, AND I'M LIKE, WELL, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY.

IT'S ABOUT EXPANDING THE SKATEPARK, AND I HATE TO DO THAT, BUT I JUST HATE WHEN THINGS WHEN UNTRUE THINGS BECOME FACT.

I JUST DON'T LIKE THAT AT ALL.

WHAT WAS THE ONE THING I WANTED TO START WITH ON TWO THINGS, ACTUALLY.

THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT TO SEE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ON THE AGENDA OR HAVE A WORKSHOP ABOUT AND THAT IS THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST OVER THE YEARS THAT KIND OF GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE EITHER THEY'RE ON THE CITY MANAGER'S DESK AT SOME

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IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED.

SO TO DISCUSS THINGS LIKE WHO DO WE REPORT TO? WE KNOW WE REPORT TO THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT DO WE REALLY? I MEAN, IS THAT WHO SUPERVISES US, SO TO SPEAK? AND IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS BE? AND LIKE I SAID, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE YEARS WORTH? WE DID A YEAR'S WORTH OR SIX MONTHS WORTH OF RESEARCH OF WHAT FACILITIES HAD WE DID THE QUESTIONNAIRE THAT PEOPLE SAID WAS TOO BIASED? WELL, IT WASN'T BIASED.

IT WAS SPECIFIC.

IT WAS SPECIFIC TO THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE AND THE WATERFRONT.

SO IT'S NOT, BUT AND PEOPLE COULD HAVE ANSWERED.

THEY COULD HAVE WRITTEN IN ANYTHING THEY WANTED.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, BUT THAT WAS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION AND.

I THINK THAT WE NEED, FOR INSTANCE, OUR MISSION STATEMENT.

IT USED TO BE ON THE WEBSITE, BUT I DON'T SEE THE MISSION STATEMENT THERE ANYMORE.

I SEE OUR MASTER PLAN.

OUR MASTER PLAN IS GROSSLY OUTDATED.

WE'RE PUTTING PONDS IN CENTRAL PARK AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

DO YOU ALL WANT TO CHANGE THAT? SO I WAS THINKING YOU CAN BRING YOUR OWN IDEAS OR CONCERNS TO A WORKSHOP IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE ONE. SO I MAKE A MOTION TO SUGGEST THAT WE SET A DATE FOR A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS ANYTHING AS FAR AS ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS AND QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT AUTHORITIES AND WHAT THE LAWS ARE.

THERE'RE A LOT OF LAWS THAT COULD BE BRUSHED OVER.

DOES ANYONE WANT A SECOND THAT? SO IF I MAY.

SO WE WERE JUST CONFIRMING ON ROBERT'S RULE, WE BELIEVE THAT DURING BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS, YOU CAN'T MAKE A MOTION, BUT YOU CAN GET CONSENSUS TO ADD IT TO THE AGENDA FOR A DISCUSSION AND THEN YOU CAN.

ABSOLUTELY, AND THEN DO IT.

OKAY, SO DOES ANYONE WANT TO DO THAT? [INAUDIBLE] I WOULDN'T MIND PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA. ON THE AGENDA.

WELL, IT'S NOT A REAL MOTION.

WOULD ANYBODY BE INTERESTED IN PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE FIRST OF ALL ALL GET WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT INFORMATION GOES OUT, IMPORTANT INFORMATION GOES OUT TO A PREVIOUS BOARD, BUT YOU ALL NEVER SEE IT.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH EVERY SINGLE MEETING THAT PEOPLE HAD AND POSSIBLY THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE THERE.

SO IT WOULD BE LIKE A WORKSHOP TO COME UP WITH OUR INITIATIVES AND GOALS AND STUFF LIKE WHAT OUR GOALS ARE AND WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE RIGHT.

THAT HASN'T BEEN ANSWERED.

I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE US MORE OF A FOCUS OF WHAT WE DO OR OR WHAT WE COULD BE DOING.

SO DOES ANYONE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT ADDRESSED AS A COMMENT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH TO DISCUSS OR TO HAVE A WORKSHOP AFTERWARDS? AND IF NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC IN EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT? NO, I CAN'T, BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT EVERYTHING.

IT'S ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE COLUMBARIUM.

IT'S ABOUT THINGS LIKE DO WE KNOW IF THE AIRPORT IS GOING TO USE THAT PROPERTY AND THERE CAN BE BASEBALL FIELDS THERE? THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT HAPPENS WITH PARKS AND REC, BUT EITHER I MEAN, WE HEAR IT FROM CATHERINE ONCE A MONTH OR SCOTT ONCE A MONTH, BUT EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN, AND THERE'S JUST A BUNCH OF STUFF THAT WE SHOULD ALL PUT TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY THE FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME OR COME UP WITH NEW IDEAS OF A DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO IN.

DO WE LEAVE THE MASTER PLAN JUST SITTING THERE SAYING, WELP, THAT'S WHAT WE THOUGHT TEN YEARS AGO.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

THIS WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR SCOTT.

SO IS THERE A PROCESS OR HAS THERE BEEN ONE IN IN THE PAST THAT THERE IS A PLANNING WORKSHOP OF THIS

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THAT WOULD BE A WORKSHOP THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS STUFF THAT HAS COME BEFORE THIS BOARD PREVIOUSLY AND WE COULD THEN IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO REVISIT IN THE FUTURE SO WE COULD STAFF AS WELL AS OTHER MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A FEW YEARS NOW? WE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, HERE'S AN ITEM.

FOR EXAMPLE, SHE BROUGHT UP THE COLUMBARIUM.

HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE COLUMBARIUM.

DO YOU WANT TO RE-DISCUSS THIS? DO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY? AND A LOT OF THAT STUFF, TOO, ALSO GOES ALONG WITH THE BUDGETING PROCESS, WHICH WE ARE COMING YOU KNOW, WE'RE STARTING IT.

SO A LOT OF THOSE GET DISCUSSED AS WELL BECAUSE IF WE'RE BUDGETING FOR LARGER TICKET ITEMS, THOSE ALL THAT STUFF COMES THROUGH YOU GUYS AS WELL. WHEN DOES THE BUDGETING PROCESS START FOR YOU GUYS FORMALLY? YOU SAID YOU'RE GETTING STARTED.

IT'S REALLY STARTING ALMOST LIKE RIGHT NOW.

YEAH. SO THE FIRST THE FIRST PHASE, ALL OF OUR BUDGET DOCUMENTS ARE DUE APRIL 28TH.

SO WE'RE IN IT RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S NOT THE FINAL THAT'S TO START.

RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND IT'S A YEAH, I'M FAMILIAR WITH HOW THAT WORKS, AND I WOULD SAY, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME, COMMISSIONER FORMER SORRY, MEMBER CHAPMAN. THAT'S ALL THE NAMES.

I CALL YOU PHIL. YEAH, AND I KNOW.

MEMBER MOUNTJOY? I'M NEW.

YOU CAME ABOUT THE SAME TIME I DID, AND WALLY'S NEW, SO MAYBE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL AT SOME POINT TO KIND OF.

I KNOW I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE ASSETS THAT WE HAVE, LIKE SOME OF WHAT THOSE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULES MIGHT BE KIND OF BIGGER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT.

THE BIG TICKET ITEMS WE HEAR ABOUT LIKE THE ATLANTIC REC CENTER AND THOSE STRUCTURAL ISSUES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO MAYBE IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ESPECIALLY FOR THE NEW PEOPLE TO KIND OF HAVE A CLIFFSNOTES VERSION OF REALLY WHAT WHAT HAS BEEN AND ESPECIALLY WITH YOU BEING NEW AS WELL, IT MIGHT BE A TIME FOR US TO REALLY ALIGN WITH EACH OTHER ON HOW I CAN DO THAT WITH YOU IF YOU WANT, ON SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS COMING UP SO THAT WE'RE NOT.

I SOMETIMES FEEL DISADVANTAGED, LIKE IF I DON'T KNOW SOMETHING, THE HISTORY AND THE BACKSTORY AND KNOW IT VERY INTIMATELY, I FEEL LIKE I'M KIND OF DOING A DISSERVICE TO AND THAT'S HOW I FELT WHEN I CAME HERE IF I DON'T KNOW.

YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING IT, BUT IT'S ALSO THERE'S A LOT.

IT'S A LOT. SO WHAT IF WE DO IF YOU WANT TO DO A WORKSHOP THAT WAS PROPOSED, WE COULD DO A DEPARTMENT OVERVIEW AND HAVE GIVE YOU A DOCUMENT THAT HAS ALL THE FACILITIES AND LITTLE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT EACH ONE AS FAR AS HISTORY AND LIKE A CLIFFNOTES VERSION WITH SOME PICTURES AND THINGS THAT WE SEE AS AS TOP PRIORITIES BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THIS ABOUT HALFWAY DONE ANYWAY, AND SO IF YOU HAVE A WORKSHOP OR YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT AND TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU FEEL THAT NEED TO BE TALKED ABOUT, JUST KNOW THAT YES, YOU REPORT TO, BUT YOU PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH INFORMATION RELATED TO PARKS AND RECREATION.

RIGHT? SO YOU HELP YOU GIVE THEM THINGS THAT THEY ASK FOR. SO THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR WHAT IS PRAC THINK ABOUT THE FEES? THAT'S HOW YOU SUPPORT THE COMMISSION.

DON'T REALLY REPORT TO THEM.

WHAT? YOU DON'T REPORT TO ANYBODY.

YOU ARE A BOARD.

YEAH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW ANYMORE.

I THINK FACILITIES I THINK PEOPLE KNOW A LOT ABOUT THOSE, BUT ALSO, IF WE COULD JUST PUT SOME OF THIS STUFF.

THE COLUMBARIUM, THE MASTER PLAN.

WHAT'S ANOTHER ONE? THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE.

I'LL THINK OF IT LATER. WE'LL PUT IT ALL IN THERE.

YEAH. IT'LL BE ONE DOCUMENT, REFERENCE DOCUMENT.

SO I WANT TO ASK AGAIN, ARE PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF THAT OR DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT WORTH YOUR TIME? I JUST I HAVE A QUESTION FIRST, COULD WE GET YOUR VISION FOR THE PARK AND REC FOR THE NEXT YEAR? WE'LL GIVE THIS THREE MINUTES.

A YEAR FROM NOW, YOUR GOAL FOR PARK AND REC IS X, Y, AND Z, BECAUSE WITH THAT, I THINK THEN WE CAN KIND OF ALIGN HOW TO MOVE IT TO THAT.

SINCE YOU'VE COME IN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES, BUT WE LIKE THE STAFFING ISSUES.

IF YOU BRING THAT TO US AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M SUPPOSED TO HAVE, WHAT WAS IT, 12 STAFF?

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I MEAN, I KNOW PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE, SO WHY THE HELL SHOULD I COME AND WORK HERE? BUT THESE ARE ISSUES THAT I THINK WOULD HELP US, AND HOW DO WE PLAN TO GET YOUR GOAL ACCOMPLISHED A YEAR FROM NOW? BECAUSE THE BIGGEST THING THE CITY HAS DONE IN THE PAST IS TREAD WATER AND SOMETIMES WITH WEIGHTS ON, THEY DID HAVE MORE.

SO THAT'S A MULTIFACETED QUESTION.

WHAT MY VISION IS BECAUSE A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON FUNDING, BUT WE DID PROVIDE AND YOU TAKE YOU TOOK A LOOK AT THE TOP TEN PRIORITIES FOR THE DEPARTMENT RIGHT AND THAT IS WHAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMUNITY FORUMS, BUT YES, WE CAN DIG A LITTLE DEEPER.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE IDEAS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND IF YOU HAVE A WORKSHOP, THEN I'LL INCLUDE THAT IN THERE WITH WHAT KIND OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? [INAUDIBLE] TODAY BEING MY FIRST DAY, I DID GET SENT SOMETHING TO ME.

I DON'T KNOW WHO SENT IT. IT WAS LAURIE OR SOMEBODY, BUT I GOT A TON OF INFORMATION THAT WAS SENT TO ME FROM MY FIRST DAY FROM, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND RECREATION HERE IN FERNANDINA IN 1991.

IT WAS SENT TO ME SOMEHOW.

I PRINTED EVERYTHING OUT AND READ ALL THESE RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE GIVEN, AND THEN THEY EVEN HAVE GAVE ME SOMETHING ABOUT NORTH CAROLINA.

SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT I WAS GIVEN INFORMATION THAT I'VE BEEN STUDYING JUST FOR THE LAST THREE DAYS ON WHAT IT'S MEANT TO FOR US TO DO.

THAT'S A BEGINNING. YEAH, RIGHT, AND SO, LIKE YOU SAID, TO GIVE US SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT I GOT THAT WE ALL CAN STUDY ON OUR OWN, I THINK WOULD BE GREAT, YOU KNOW, TO MAXIMIZE WHATEVER YOU HAVE IN YOUR MIND AS MR CHAPMAN SAID, FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO HAVE, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT WHOEVER TAKES THE JOB AS CHAIR NEXT HAS THAT INFORMATION TOO, BECAUSE IT WILL RECYCLE AGAIN WITH ALL NEW PEOPLE AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AND MAYBE ASK PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HOW DID THIS END UP? OR IT'S STILL OPEN OR ARE WE DROPPED IT, THAT KIND OF THING.

I THINK IT SOUNDS GOOD AND I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT TO DO IT AND INCLUDE CATHERINE BECAUSE HER NEW IDEAS ARE GOING TO CHANGE HOW THINGS WERE DONE IN THE PAST.

SO SOME OF IT WILL NEED TO CHANGE TO FIT WITH HER AS THE DIRECTOR AND THE NEW BOARD.

SO THEN EVERYBODY CAN KIND OF BE ALIGNED BECAUSE LIKE THERE'S NEW PEOPLE ON THE BOARD.

I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED AND KIND OF SITS ON THE WAYSIDE TOO.

IF I MAY MAKE A SUGGESTION, IF YOU ALL WANT TO DECIDE TO DO A WORKSHOP, IF IT COULD BE IN JUNE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I JUST TOOK A LOOK AT THE BUDGET CALENDAR SO IT'D BE HARD FOR ME TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER FOR YOU IN MAY WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO GET DONE FOR THE FOR FINANCE.

SO ONCE AGAIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE.

I WOULD SUPPORT A WORKSHOP.

I WOULD.

I'M GAME.

THREE FOUR. OKAY, ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL WORK ON DOING A WORKSHOP IN JUNE, AND HOW ABOUT AT OUR NEXT MEETING? DO YOU WANT US TO COME BACK WITH DATES FOR THAT JUNE WORKSHOP? SURE, YEAH, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE OUR MAY MEETING AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH STATE DATES THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, AND THEN WE'LL PICK THE DATE, AND THEN BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO POST THE WORKSHOP AND SUCH, WHICH IS NO BIG DEAL.

DO WE HAVE TO POST THAT? YES, SIR. OKAY, YEP.

PERFECT. ALL RIGHT, I'M DONE.

THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.