Apr 04, 2023 Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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MEETING OF THE FERNANDINA BEACH CITY COMMISSION TO ORDER.

>>MAYOR BEAN: HERE. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: HERE.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: HERE. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: HERE.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: HERE. >>MAYOR BEAN: EVERYONE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED US TO TODAY BY COMMISSIONER ANTUN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>MAYOR BEAN: PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A PRAYER BY OUR VERY OWN REVEREND WARDELL AVANT OF THE KINGDOM MINISTRIES CHURCH.

>> LET US PRAY. ETERNAL FATHER WE GIVE THANKS TO THIS DAY. WE THANK YOU, GOD, FOR OUR CITY AND THE PROGRESS WE MADE OVER THE YEARS.

WE COME NOW FOR THE LORD TO ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON THIS SESSION.

THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA TO BE CONSIDERED.

I PRAY THAT WE WITH YOUR WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE WE GUIDE YOU IN THIS SESSION WE PRAY. AMEN.

>>MAYOR BEAN: EVERYBODY PLEASE REMAIN STANDING A LITTLE BIT LONGER. AT THIS TIME I WANT TO OBSERVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND HONOR OUR FORMER COMMISSIONER WHO SERVED WITH INTEGRITY FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS IN '85 AND 1988. COMMISSIONER DEES LEAVES BEHIND A FAMILY THAT IS GRIEVING AND COMMUNITY.

BOW YOUR HEADS. WE WILL OBSERVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

[4.1 PRESENTATION - NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY]

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU. LET'S GET STARTED.

4.1. PRESENTATION FOR THE NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY. THIS IS 234U8AXEL.

HE DOESN'T LIVE IN THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

HE IS IN A FOSTER HOME AND HE IS LIVING THERE.

SO HE -- WHEN HE --. WHEN HE FIRST KIM US TO HE WAS NOT DOING WELL. SHELTER FATIGUE, SHAKING, DROOLING, NOT EATING. HE LIVED IN FOSTER FOR FOUR MONTHS AND HE DOES FABULOUS. DOES ALL THE TRICKS AND HE IS DOING WELL WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT HE WOULD DO. WE WANTED TO SHOW AND SHOW HIM OFF BECAUSE HE IS NOT AT THE SHELTER.

WE WILL HAVE YOUR FAMILY COME AND MEET THE GUYS.

HE KNOWS SIT, LAY DOWN, ALL THE TRICKS AND HE JUST CAN'T BE IN OUR SHELTER. A PHENOMENAL SPOKES DOG FOR

FOSTER. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [LAUGHTER] COMMISSIONER ROSS, AXEL HAS YOUR N

NAME. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: NOT A SPARK

OF HOPE. >>MAYOR BEAN: YOU WANT THIS BEFORE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING AXEL. >> THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD DAY. >>MAYOR BEAN: ITEM 4.2.

[4.2 PROCLAMATION - RETIREMENT OF CAPTAIN VICTOR RUSSELL - Recognizes Fire Department Captain Victor Russell upon his retirement after thirty years of dedicated service to the City of Fernandina Beach. Captain Russell retired on February 28, 2023.]

EVERYBODY -- WE HAVE SOME FIRE FIGHTERS.

YOU ARE WELCOME. COME ON.

AND WE NEED CAPTAIN VICTOR UP HERE AS WELL.

SGLI WE WILL TAKE A PICTURE AT THE END.

PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS, IT IS WITH GREAT HONOR THAT THE CITY OF FERNANDINA RECOGNIZES CAPTAIN VICTOR RUSSELL WITH THE LONG AND DISTINGUISHED CAREER WITH THE FERNANDINA BEACH FIRE DEPARTMENT. HE FIRST SERVED HIS COUNTRY AS A MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES ARMY AND HIS CAREER TO FERNANDINA BEACH. THROUGHOUT HIS 30-YEAR TENURE, HE SERVED WITH INTEGRITY, COM PASSION.

HE WAS REGULARLY PROMOTED DUE TO EXEMPLARY PERFORMANCE OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL? TECHNICIAN, TO.

LIEUTENANT AND TO CAPTAIN. HIGHEST LEVEL OF EFFICIENCY AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND SERVED AS MENTOR TO COUNTLESS FIRE FIGHTERS ENCOURAGING HONESTY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND HUMILITY.

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CAPTAIN RUSSELL REMAINS A PILLAR OF SERVICE IN THE FERNANDINA BEACH COMMUNITY AND HIS WORK HAS EQUIVOCALLY BENEFITED THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH AND HIS FIRE FIGHTERS FAMILY.

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CITY COMMISSION OF FERNANDINA BEACH THAT GENUINE AND SINCERE GRATITUDE EXPRESSED FOR THE PROFESSIONAL AND MORAL EFFORTS OF DR. VICTOR RUSSELL TOURING HIS TENURE OF SERVICE. IT BE FURTHER RESOLVED THAT A COPY OF THIS PROCLAMATION IS PRESENTED AS PERMANENT MATTER OF RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND FURTHER TESTIMONY TO OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION TO CAPTAIN VICTOR RUSSELL. IN WITNESS THEREFORE I BRADLEY BEAN AFFIX THE COUNTY SEAL AND GIVE MY HAND TO IT.

PLEASE GIVE A HAND FOR CAPTAIN VICTOR RUSSELL.

[APPLAUSE] >> SO.

I AM THE FIRE CHIEF. I HAD THE GREAT PRIVILEGE OF SERVING WITH CAPTAIN RUSSELL OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AS THE FIRE CHIEF. AS MAYOR BEAN SAID, CAPTAIN RUSSELL HAS MENTORED MANY FOLKS THAT COME THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE ONE MAN HERE THIS EVENING, JORDAN PARKER. HE STARTED COMING TO THE FIRE STATION WHEN HE WAS THREE YEARS OLD.

AND CAPTAIN RUSSELL MENTORED HIM THROUGH HIS ENTIRE LIFE.

AND NOW JORDAN SERVES AS A FIRE FIGHTER-EMT WITH THE FERNANDINA BEACH FIRE DEPARTMENT. CAPTAIN RUSSELL, YOU LEFT A BIG HOLE. WE WILL ATTEMPT TO FELL IT, BUT WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS DONE FOR US.

THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU FOR COMING.

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]

IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME, WE WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS.

FELL OUT ONE OF THESE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORMS AND IT IS IN THE BACK AND TURN IT IN. I SAW BARB KENT GOT IN ON THE ACTION. CALL UP OUR FIRST REQUEST TO SPEAK. YOU HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES.

MISS TYNA CRISNER. >> TYNA CRISHER, BEACH STREET.

THE TRINGAL CIRCUMSTANCES BACK ON YOUR AGENDA AND I'M SURE YOU ARE ALL HELD THERE. SIGNATURES WERE NOT NEEDED, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT A ANOTHER DAY.

YOU SAY YOU ARE PRO PROPERTY RIGHTS.

PROPERTY RIGHTS IS PEOPLE CAN ENJOY THEIR PROPERTY.

THIS IS PROTECTED BY LAW AND AN ESSENTIAL PROPONENT OF A FREE AND DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. PROPERTY RIGHTS IS NOT ABSOLUTE.

THE RIGHTS OF PROPERTY OWNER CANNOT INFRINGE ON NEARBY NEIGHBORS. LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES ARE IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF EVERYONE AND YOUR DUTY TO UPHOLD THESE RIGHTS. I HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF THE 10305 OF THE LDC AND INTENT OF THE CODE.

I FOUND THE INTENT BY READING THROUGH MANY YEARS OF MEETING MINUTES. AND THIS WAS THRILLING, LET ME TELL YOU. JANUARY, 2006, PAB DISCUSSED THE LEGISLATIVE TINT AFTER IT HAD BEEN DRAFTED AND BEFORE THE ADOPTION. THE INTENT WAS VERY CLEAR AND INTENDED TO STOP SITUATIONS EXACTLY LINE THE TRINFALI PROJECT. QUOTING FROM THE MEETING

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CLARIFIED THAT THE ZONING AND LAND USE RESTRICTION IS ON PROPERTY AND SOMEONE BUILT A HOUSE AND THE CITY DOESN'T WANT THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAXIMIZE THEIR PROFIT AND INCREASE DENSITY ACROSS THE BOARD BY TEARING DOWN THEIR HOUSE AND PUTTING UP TWO HOUSES. CHAIRMAN BENNETT SUGGESTED INCLUDING THIS LANGUAGE WITH LAND USE AND QUITE CLEAR.

HE COMMENTED THE INTENT OF THE BOARD TO ALLOW SINGLE BUILDINGS AND LOTS COMBINED AND SINGLE IMPROVEMENTS PUT ON THEM TO KEEP IT THAT BY A. MEMBER CONGER NOTED THAT ENTREPRENEURS WILL PURCHASE EXISTING BUILDING ON A LOT AND SPLIT IT IN ORDER TO BUILD TWO HOUSES.

HE QUESTIONED IF THE LANGUAGE HAS A BARRIER TO ACTIVITY LIKE THAT. MISS HARTLY REPLIED CORRECT.

THIS IS THE EXACT SITUATION OF THE PROPOSED REPLAT OF SOUTH 4TH STREET. CURRENTLY THREE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND THE APPLICANT DESIRES TO TEAR THEM DOWN AND PUT UP SIX TOWN HOMES. PLANNER HARTLEY ENSURED THE BOARD IN 2006 THAT THE LONG BY CITY ATTORNEY BRAGA WAS CLEAR AND WOULD PUT AN BARRIER TO THE ACTIVITY LIKE THIS.

SECTION FROM OUR LDC. NO AMBIGUITY.

NO GRAY AREAS. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIKE IT, IT IS OUR CODE. YOU ARE SWORN TO UPHOLD THE LAWS OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH. NOW THAT YOU KNOW THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT OF THIS LAW, YOU HAVE CHOICE BUT TO REJECT THIS PROPOSAL WITHOUT BREAKING YOUR OATH.

RESPECTFULLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE A NICE EVENING. >>MAYOR BEAN: I BELIEVE OUR CITY ENGINEER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS TOP IC.

>> MY TOPIC IS ABOUT THE REC CENTER.

CHARLIE GEORGE, CITY ENGINEER. AS YOU KNOW WE RECEIVED THE REC CENTER STRUCTURAL ASSESSMENT ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO.

AND IT ADDRESSED THE AUDITORIUM BUILDING, THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING, THE FITNESS FACILITY AND THE AQUATICS BUILDING.

SINCE RECEIVING THIS REPORT, WE UNDERSTAND SOME CONCERNS RAISED IN THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE FIND INFORMATION THEIR REPORT RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE CONDITION OF THE AUDITORIUM BUILDING AND WHETHER IT SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED, REPAIRED, LEFT ALONE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THE OPINIONS AND THE FINDINGS PRESENTED IN THE COURT WERE NOT SURPRISING TO STAFF BASED ON OUR OWN EVALUATIONS AND PREVIOUS MAINTENANCE RECORDS AND THINGS WE GOT TO DO TO IT. WE ANTICIPATED THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION ON THE AUDITORIUM LAST YEAR.

SO WE BUDGETED IN THIS YEAR'S CURRENT BUDGET FUNDS TO DO THE REPAIRS THAT WE FEEL LIKE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

SO AT THIS POINT, STAFF RECOMMENDS PROCEEDING WITH THE STRUCTURAL REPAIRS AS OUTLINED IN THE BUDGET IN ACCORDANCE TO ALL THE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AN OVERALL MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR MULTIYEARS GOING FORWARD SO WE CAN EXTEND THE LIFE OF THIS FACILITY. AND SO WHEN IT BECOMES NO LONGER FEASIBILITY. SO WE ALSO ENCOURAGED THE COMMISSIONERS TO LOOK TO A PLANNED MAINTENANCE APPROACH GOING FORWARD INSTEAD OF A DEFERRED MEAT NANCE SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CATCH THESE THINGS BEFORE THEY GET TO BE TOO

EXPENSIVE AND TOO DRASTIC. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, CITY ENGINEER. I APPRECIATE YOU.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE YOU GO, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT, ANY PLANS TO TEAR DOWN THE REC CENTER OR

ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >> NO.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT.

COMING UP NEXT ON OUR LIST WE HAVE BARB KENT.

>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. VICE-CHAIR OF THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD AND 2009 SUNRISE DRIVE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. IN THE RECENT MEETING WE HAD, WE DISCOVERED FOR THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL, THERE IS NO COAST GUARD VESSEL OR SHRIMP FESTIVAL AT THE DOCKS.

AND WE WERE WONDERING -- WE NEED SOME FUNDING BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CHARGE US BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT IS A MONEY-MAKING VENTURE AND WE ARE WONDER GOING YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS HOW TO GET FUND FOR THAT OR MAKE THAT A LINE ITEM FOR NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, BARB, WE APPRECIATE YOU.

ALL THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. A NUMBER OF OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK BUT THEY HAVE LINE ITEMS WITH THEM.

WE WILL CALL THEM UP AS THEY BECOME AVAIL.

MR. LAURIE LOOKS LIKE HE WANTS TO SPEAK CARIBBEAN I DID SEE

YOUR ITEM. >> PAUL LAURIE, FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA. I AM GOING TOS SKWEESZ TWO ITEMS IN HERE REAL QUICK, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. SINCE THE COMMISSION IS ALMOST COMPLETELY NEW, I WAS HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO.

AND I INTRODUCED THAT I WAS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR NASSAU COUNTY FOR THE FIRE K57 WATCH PROGRAM WHICH IS A VETERAN PROGRAM THAT TRIES TO REALLY INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY IN TRYING TO PREVENT

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AS A MODEL OF SMALLER CITIES, SMALLER SUB-CITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THE NEXT REASON I AM UP HERE THAT I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT REAL QUICK IS I WANT TO START TO BECOME A VOICE FOR THE BOAT RAMP DOWN AT THE MARINA.

AGAIN, SOON THAT SEPARATELY I WILL ACCEPTED YOU AN E-MAIL AND TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY UPCOMING MAINTENANCE OR LOVE THAT WILL BE GIVEN TO THE PROGRAM. THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, MR. LAURIE.

ALL RIGHT, LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE NO MORE REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THIS -- ON THE NONAGENDA SECTION.

AND -- WAIT A SECOND -- OH, IT IS FOR LATER ON.

[6.1 INTERIM CITY MANAGER - This item is placed on the agenda at the request of Mayor Bean and Commissioner Ross, who wish to discuss who will serve as Interim City Manager when Interim City Manager Mark Foxworth completes his ninety-day contract: May 24, 2023.]

DO WE HEAR A MOTION? OR DO WE NEED TO INTRODUCE THE

ITEM. >> JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM.

>>MAYOR BEAN: A DISCUSSION ITEM. I OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: SO THE DISCUSSION WAS WHEN THIS WAS PUT ON THE ONLY, THERE WAS NO INTERIM CITY MANAGER. SINCE THAT TIME, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CITY ENGINEER, MR. GEORGE, HAS ACCEPTED THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT OF THE CURRENT INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

SO SING THE SITUATION HAS RESOLVED ITSELF.

>>MAYOR BEAN: EXCELLENT. THANKS.

JUST FOR DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER ACE SKEW.

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: I WAS GOING TO ECHO THE WORDS OF COMMISSIONER ROSS. I THINK WE SETTLED ON -- ON CHARLIE -- MR. GEORGE BEING OUR NEXT INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS WILLINGNESS TO SO AND I KNOW HE

WILL DO A GREAT JOB, GNAW. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO MR. GEORGE'S TENURE AS OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, SIR. THANK YOU.

[7.1 RECONSIDERATION - CITY MANAGER SEARCH COMMITTEE - RESOLUTION 2023-46 ESTABLISHING THE CITY MANAGER SEARCH COMMITTEE; PROVIDING FOR ORGANIZATION, CONDUCT OF BUSINESS AND STAFF SUPPORT; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: The City Commission, at their March 21, 2023 Regular Meeting, approved Resolution 2023-46, as amended, by adding Mr. Richard Sala and Mr. Jim Hanson as advisors to the Committee. Commissioner Ross has requested this item be placed on the agenda for reconsideration in accordance with the City Commission Rules of Procedure Section 7.4 to remove Mr. Richard Sala.]

RECONSIDERATION OF THE CITY MANAGER SEARCH COMMITTEE.

ITEM 7.1. CITY OF MANAGER, INTRER DUES

THIS TO US. >> A RESOLUTION TO RECONSIDER RESOLUTION FETCH 2023-46 ESTABLISHING THE CITY MANAGER

SEARCH. >>MAYOR BEAN: DO I HEAR A

MOTION. >> MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.

>> SECOND. >>MAYOR BEAN: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?

>> YOU NEED TO CALL A ROLL. AND IF YOU GET A MAJORITY VOTE -- YOU CAN HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION.

THAT WAS MY MISTAKE. >>MAYOR BEAN: A MOTION AND SECOND. QUELL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION OF THE ITEM. NO PROBLEM.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO -- THERE WERE TWO -- THE MOTION TO HAVE THE SEARCH COMMITTEE -- ALTHOUGH I AM SKEPTICAL OF THAT IS FINE. I TWO LIKE TO DELETE -- THERE WERE TWO ADVISORS THAT WERE TO BE ADDED TO THE COMMITTEE.

HE WOULD LIKE TO DELETE AT LEAST THE SECOND ONE.

SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS PRESENTED BE APPROVED WITH THE -- IT IS THE -- WITH MR. HENSON ALSO BEING AN

ADVISOR IF HE SO CONSENTS. >> POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR.

>>MAYOR BEAN: I HEAR A POINT OF ORDER.

>> A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR RECONSIDERATION OF THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. SO WE CAN'T HEAR ANOTHER MOTION UNTIL THAT MOTION IS VOTED ON AND SO, MR. MAYOR, I WILL SUGGEST IF YOU ASK FOR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AND MAKE A MOTION.

>>MAYOR BEAN: MRS. CITY ATTORNEY, A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ROSS AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ANTUN.

ANY QUESTION? COMMISSIONER ASKEW.

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: CLARIFICATION.

ON THE MOTION TO REMOVE RICHARD SALA FOR CONSIDERATION?

>>MAYOR BEAN: THE MOTION THAT MR. ROSS MADE RESENDS THE ENTER SEARCH COMMITTEE. IF YOU VOTE YES, YOU ARE

RESCINDING THE -- >> POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR.

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ACTUAL. >>MAYOR BEAN: YES, MA'AM.

>> THE MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION PUTS BACK ON THE

TABLE AS WRITTEN. >>MAYOR BEAN: GREAT.

WE LOVE THAT. THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.

[LAUGHTER] SO A YES VOTE --

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: CAN I -- >>MAYOR BEAN: COMMISSIONER ROSS, JUST TO PUT INTO WORDS WHAT SHE JUST SAID.

IF YOU VOTE YES ON COMMISSIONER ROSS'S MOTION AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ANTUN, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THIS ITEM WILL GO BACK ON THE AGENDA AND VOTE AGAIN. LIKE WE NEVER DID IT THE FIRST TIME. THAT IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN HERE.

A NO VOTE MEANS WE STICK WITH WHAT WE DID THE LAST TIME.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT. BECAUSE I WILL CALL THIS VOTE AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING. COMMISSIONER ANTUN.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: I WANT TO RESCIND MY SECOND --

>> YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER IT IF WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THE RESOLUTION AGAIN. IF YOU DO A RECONSIDERATION, MOST OF THE TIME, IN MY EXPERIENCE, WHEN THAT IS DONE, IT IS BECAUSE THE CITY COMMISSION OR SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A CHANGES TO THE ORIGINAL APPROVED ACTION.

SO WHAT YOU WOULD DO HERE, IF YOU -- IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE ORIGINAL ACTION -- WHICH I KNOW COMMISSIONER ROSS DOES. HE EXPLAINED HE DOES.

YOU WILL VOTE TO APPROVE THE MOTION TO RECONSIDERATION.

PUT THAT RESOLUTION BACK ON THE TABLE AND AMEND IT.

>>MAYOR BEAN: DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? PUT IT ONE MORE TIME FOR, GUYS. ONE MORE ROUND.

SO A YES VOTE OPENS IT UP FOR MINUTES.

A NO VOTE WILL SAY WE LIKE IT JUST LIKE WE DID THE LAST TIME.

THAT IS THERE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE CALL THIS VOTE?

COMMISSIONER ROSS, GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: THE REASON I WANT TO DO THIS BECAUSE THE SECOND GENTLEMAN DOESN'T WANT TO BE AN ADVISOR. I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE HISTORY. HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE AN ADVISOR. HE WANTS NO PART OF THIS APPARENTLY. I THINK IT IS SORT OF -- I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER SERVED IF -- IF WE HAVE -- IF THEY WANT AN ADVISOR -- PERSONALLY IF THE COMMITTEE WANT ADVISORS THEY CAN ASK WHOEVER THEY WANT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE -- THAT WE APPOINTED AN ADVISOR THAT HAS NO INTENTION OF ADVISING. SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO

REDO THIS. >>MAYOR BEAN: UNDERSTOOD.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THIS? PETITION SEEING NONE.

WE WILL CALL THE VOTE. KEEP IN MIND WHAT A YES AND NO.

YES PUTS IT BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AGAIN.

A NO VOTE KEEPS IT THE SAME. CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE

ROTE. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: YES.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: NO. >>MAYOR BEAN: AND NO.

THAT PASSES 3-2. ALL RIGHT.

IT IS BACK ON THE AGENDA. WE WILL NOW -- WE WILL NOW ADDRESS THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT WE APPROVED LAST WEEK.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT AGENDA ITEM?

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE -- CITY MANAGER COMMITTEE AS THE ORDINANCE -- AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN AND LET THEM HAVE THE CHOICE OF MAKING THEIR

OWN ADVISORS. >>MAYOR BEAN: DO I HEAR A

SECOND? >> SECOND.

>>MAYOR BEAN: I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER AYESCUE

. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: I LIKE TO MAKE A AMENDMENT TO ADD MR. JIM HANSON TO THE COMMITTEE AS

AN ADVISOR. >>MAYOR BEAN: THAT A FRIENDLY

AMENDMENT? >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: THERE ARE NO FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS. ONCE IT HAS BEEN OUT LIKE THIS, WE NOW HAVE TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

>>MAYOR BEAN: WE CERTAINLY DO, BUT WE CAN BE FRIENDLY ABOUT IT.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE FRIENDLY, THAT IS FINE TOO.

WE ARE NOT ACCEPTING FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS.

WE WILL INCH ACCEPT A SECOND ON THE AMENDMENT IF THERE IS ONE.

>> SECOND. >>MAYOR BEAN: NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN AMENDMENT IN AN UNFRIENDLY WAY.

ANYBODY WISH -- ANYONE WANTS TO ADDRESS THE AMENDMENT?

VICE-MAYOR STURGESS. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WILL BRIEFLY GO INTO THIS.

I AM THE ONE THAT RECOMMENDED BOTH THE ADVISORS ON THE ADVISEMENT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY WHEN WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS. MY WHOLE ATTEMPT FOR THIS WAS TO HELP THE COMMITTEE HAVE ADVISORS WITH EXPERIENCE.

THE GENTLEMEN -- BOTH OF THEM EXPRESSED INTEREST ORIGINALLY.

OCE THE PIRANHAS GOT A HOLD OF HIM AND STARTED ATTACKING, THE ONE GENTLEMAN IT WASN'T INTERESTED ANYMORE.

SO IN THE -- IN THE TIME CON STLANTS WE HAVE, I WILL KEEP IT VERY SIMPLE AND SAY I BELIEVE THAT JIM HANSON IS A VERY GREAT AND EXPERIENCED PERSON TO HHELP ADVISE OUR COMMITTEE OF CITIZENS WHO WILL HEAD THIS UP. AND AS WELL, HE HAD INFORMATION ON SOMEBODY TO DO BACKGROUND SEARCHES.

WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANYBODY. I HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THAT. AND STAFF -- WHICH WE WILL GO

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I LOOK FORWARD TO IT. AND I THINK WE WILL HAVE A COMMITTEE TO PICK A NEW CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU VICE-MAYOR. ANY MORE DISCUSSION?

CO-COMMISSIONER ROSS. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: I THINK MR. HANSON, IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS HIM TO BE THE ADVISOR THEY ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO CAUGHT HIM. I TALKED TO HIM PERSONALLY.

HE SAID HE WOULD BE WILLING. HE -- HE WOULD BE WILLING TO MEET WITH THEM OCCASIONALLY AND TALK WITH THEM.

BUT I DON'T THINK HE WILL -- HE IS NOT WILLING TO COME TO EVERY MEETING AND DO THESE OTHER THINGS.

I THINK IF WE HAVE A COMMITTEE, THEY CAN -- THEY CAN TAKE ON ANY ADVISORS THAT THEY SO DEEM. SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD JUST NAME ONE PERSON, SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

I AM NOT NOT SUPPORTING MR. HANSON, JUST NOT SINGLING OUT

ONE ADVISOR. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE, CITY CLERK, CALL

THE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: --

>>MAYOR BEAN: THIS IS THE AMENDMENT OF COMMIS COMMISSIONER AYSCUE'S AMENDMENT THAT WILL ADD THIS PERSON AS AN ADVISOR TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. THAT IS FINE.

WE CAN DO EITHER WAY. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: ON THE AMENDMENT? NO.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES. IF.

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: YES. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: YES.

>>MAYOR BEAN: YES. THE AMENDMENT PASSES 4-1.

BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS AMENDED.

DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS AMENDED?

COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: I WANT TO SAY I HAVE WANT TO GET THIS MOVING.

THAT IS ALL. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: YES.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: YES. ABOUT.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: YES.

>>MAYOR BEAN: AND YES. THIS PASSES 5-0.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO THEIR SERVICE.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM -- THAT WAS ITEM 7.1. WE NOW MOVE TO ITEM 7.2 DOWNTOWN

[7.2 DOWNTOWN PARKING PLAN APPROVAL - RESOLUTION 2023-49 APPROVING THE DOWNTOWN RIVERFRONT PARKING REDEVELOPMENT PLAN; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Approves the Community Redevelopment Agency Advisory Board (CRAAB's) downtown redevelopment recommendations along the riverfront which reallocates parking within the downtown and provides increased walkability and green space.]

>> OKAY, MAYOR, BACK IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, JANUARY 4, THE ADVISORY BOARD UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED PARKING REDEVELOPMENT RECOMMENDATIONS AND THIS WAS APPROVED IN STAFF FOLLOWING MEETING BY YOU ALL, A CRA AGENCY MEETING AND STAFF WAS TASK TO TAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK. LOW-HANGING FRUIT THAT WAS LABELED TO COME UP TO REVIEW AND COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD AS EXPEDIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.

THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE. THIS WILL LOOK FAMILIAR.

THIS HAS BEEN SOME CHANGES MOSTLY VISUALLY EASIER TO READ WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT SKETCHES.

NOT DRAWN TO SCALE. SURVEYS BEING WORK.

A WORKING DOCUMENT TO GIVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE WILL BE DOING AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.

WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE PARKING LOT E.

WE WILL CALL THIS AN EXPANSION. THE AREA BETWEEN THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND THE CITY HALL ANNEX PARKING LOT.

PART ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO IMPROVE THIS AREA.

PEOPLE PARK THERE NOW. WE WILL MARK 12 SPOTS.

THE COST WILL BE MINIMAL. IT WILL REMAIN UNIMPROVED LOT.

COST US ABOUT $1,000 AND SOMETHING THAT WILL BE EASILY -- SOMETHING WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH QUICKLY AND EASILY. THE SECOND IS THE SECOND STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY. THIS IS UNAPPROVED RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THE END OF THE SECOND STREET BEFORE IT TURNS ON THE BEACH.

THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY CAN BE USED FOR ANOTHER 12 SPOTS.

THAT COST IS MINIMAL AND AN UNIMPROVED LOT.

NORTH 7TH STREET, WHERE THE FARMER'S MARKET IS.

THIS IS ONE PORTION OF THE DOWNTOWN THAT IS STILL A TWO-WAY STREET. BY CONVERTING THAT TO ONE WAY AS WAS RECOMMENDED, YOU COULD WIDEN THE ROAD SLIGHTLY.

IT ALREADY HAS UNIMPROVED SHOULDER.

HAS MISSION THERE. POURED ROAD BASE.

THAT COST WILL BE ABOUT $15,000. YOU WOULD GAIN 18 TO 20 ADDITIONAL SPACES WIND REQUIRE CONVERTING THIS TO ONE WAY.

AS YOU CAN SEE HOW THE SPACES IS PLOTTED, IT WOULD PRESERVE THE ENTRANCE TOTS CHURCH AND TO THE BANK THAT IS ON THE EAST SIDE THE STREET. THIS WILL BE AN IMPROVED ROAD.

AND THIS PAVING COST WILL BE ABOUT $15,000.

PARKING LOT E RECONFIGURATION. EXISTING PARKING LOT OVER HERE.

BY CLEANING IT UP A BIT, REMOVING THE DUMPSTER AND -- THIS PARKING LO THE IS AT THE END OF ITS LIFE.

IT NEEDS IMPROVEMENTS ANYWAY. IT WAS FULLY IN OUR FIVE-YEAR RESCHEDULE TO IMPROVE THIS LOT. BY TAKING THIS ON SOONER AND REDESIGNING THIS LOT AND REPAVING IT YOU CAN GAIN ANOTHER 14 SPOTS RIGHT HERE TO THE WEST OF CITY HALL.

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THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CRA ANDS THAT SEA WHAT WE ARE WORKING WITH. ADDING GREEN SPACE TO THE WESTERNMOST POINTS OF A AND P. YOU LOSE THOSE SPOTS AND REQUIRE REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA AND THE COSTS ASSOCIATED ARE LISTED THERE. THAT VISIBLE THERE -- ON THE SCREEN. BUT A SUMMARY COST AT THE END.

SO WITH THESE -- THESE -- THESE PROJECTS MENTIONED ALL TOGETHER, YOU ARE LOOKING AT $230,000 FOR THIS DOWNTOWN PARKING REDESIGN.

AT THAT GAIN OF ABOUT 20 SPACES. INCREASE GREEN SPACE.

AND THIS IS NOT A NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT A RECONFIGURATION OF EX-ILLSING CITY PARKING LOTS AND RIGHT-OF-WAYS. THAT IS BEFORE YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND DECISION. I DO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS PROJECT WALLS NOT BUDGETED BUT FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED IN THE CAPITAL FUND THIS YEAR FOR THE DOWNTOWN STREETSCAPE.

$70,000 HAVE BEEN SPENT AND ENCUMBERED FOR THE DOWNTOWN STREETLIGHT STUDY AND BALANCE OF $230,000 TO FUND THIS IF THE DECISION WAS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN THIS YEAR.

AND WE ARE READY FOR IMMEDIATE IMPLEMENTATION IF YOU SO CHOOSE.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, JEREMIAH.

APPRECIATE THAT. SEVERAL REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL THEM UP NOW. JULIE FERRERA UP TO THE PODIUM.

>> GOOD EVENING, JULIE FERRERA, 501 DATE STREET.

MY SUGGESTION THAT THE VARIOUS CONCEPTS BE SEPARATED OUT SO NOT ALL OR ONE. I ALSO SUGGEST THAT THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WATERFRONT NEEDS TO BE POSTPONED UNTIL WE HAVE A FIRM RESIDENT COMMISSION APPROVAL PLAN FOR THE WATERFRONT AND IN MY OPINION WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE SPENDING MONEY UNTIL THAT HAPPENS. WITH THAT CONCEPTUAL PLAN, I DON'T SEE THAT RESIDENTS ARE PRIORITIZE.

ONE OF THE REASON IS THAT THE HEAD IFLINE OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AT LEAST ON THE AGENDA SAID WEST OF THE RAILROAD SHOULD PRIORITIZE WATERFRONT VENDORS AND BOAT LAUNCHING OVER GENERAL DOWNTOWN PARKING. SO I AM A RESIDENT ADVOCATE AND I SAY AT NO POINT SHOULD A BUSINESS BE GIVEN PRECEDENT OVER RESIDENCE AND PARKING. A AND, OF COURSE, WE ALL WANT ADEQUATE BOAT PARKING.

IN THIS PLAN THAT IS COVERED. AND I HAD A QUESTION THAT I CAME UP WITH TONIGHT. SINCE IT IS A CITY BOAT RAMP, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE THE CITY PASS IT FREE FOR CITY RESIDENTS AND MAYBE CITY RESIDENTS SHOULD GET PRIORITY ON THOSE PLACES OF USING THE BOAT RAMP SINCE WE PAY CITY TAXES AND THREE MILES DOWN THE ROAD IS A COUNTY BOAT RAMP. BUT BRETT'S DOESN'T NEED DEDICATED PARKING. SALT MARSH IN HIS PLAN DOESN'T NEED DEDICATED PARKING. THE MUSIC CREWS, AMELIA RIVER CRUISE AND THE BOAT CAPTAINS, THEY NEED A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE DROPPED OFF TO ACCESS THOSE BUSINESSES BUT I WOULD SAY THEY SHOULDN'T TAKE PRECEDENT OVER RESIDENTS.

AND EVEN IF THIS PLAN DOES MOVE FORWARD, I THINK IT IS TIME TO CONSIDER HAVING RESIDENT PASSES WITH RESIDENT DEDICATED PARKING SPACELESS ON THE RIVERFRONT AND LET'S LET RESIDENTS GET SOME KIND OF BENEFIT FOR LIVING HERE AND PAYING TAXES AND PUTTING UP WITH WHAT WE PUT UP WITH 37. AND I HAVE WONDER WHETHER IT MAKES ANY SENSE TO PUT GREEN SPACE IN PARKING LOT B, SINCE WE KNOW THAT BRETT'S HAS TO BE TORN DOWN AND RECONFIGURED IN THREE YEARS. TO MY MIND, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE PAYING MONEY AND PUTTING IN GREEN SPACE WHEN WE

KNOW IT WILL HAVE TO BE TORN UP. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU.

WE WILL NOW INVITE -- >> I HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS TO SAY IF YOU WANT TO ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS.

>>MAYOR BEAN: I APPRECIATE THAT. MAYBE NEXT TIME.

WE APPRECIATE YOU. LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL CAPTAIN

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KEVIN MCCARTHY TO THE PODIUM. >> GOOD EVENING.

KVIN MCCARTHY, 1701 CLINCH DRIVE.

FERNANDINA. I AM THE OWNER OF AMELIA RIVER CRUISES. THIS DISCUSSION HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW AND MANY OF THE BOAT CAPTAINS ARE QUITE AWARE OF IT. I WOULD SAY MAYBE 20 DIFFERENT BUSINESSES THAT OPERATE ON THE WATERFRONT.

AND PARKING IS CRITICAL FOR US. WE JUST SPENT $10 MILLION CREATING A STATE-OF-THE-ART MARINA.

AND IT HAPPENS TO SIT AT THE END OF CENTER STREET.

SO WE ACCESS THE WORLD THROUGH THE PORT, THROUGH THE MARINA.

LITERALLY WE DO. WE HAVE ONE OF THE DEEPEST NATURAL NUMBER THE U.S. INCH THE STREET DEAD-ENDS AT THE AMELIA RIVER. WHY? CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY? DO YOU KNOW IF I ASK THIS QUESTION 150 YEARS AGO, THEY WOULD TELL ME THAT I WAS STUPID.

IT DOES NOT DEAD END AT THE AMELIA RIVER.

IT CONNECTS FERNANDINA TO THE WORLD.

YOU CAN ONLY GET TO THIS ISLAND BY BOAT BACK IN THE DAY.

AND THAT WAS CONNECTING US TO THE WORLD.

THAT IS WHY IT DEAD-ENDS AT THE RIVER.

HAVING THAT KIND OF MARINA AND HAVING NOT ENOUGH ACCESS FOR THE BOAT TRAFFIC, AND THE BUSINESSES -- YOU HAVE 100 SLIPS NOW.

IF I BUILT THAT BRAND-NEW MARINA TODAY I WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SLIP FOR PROBABLY EACH OF THE BOATS DESIGNATED FOR THE MARINA. I DON'T MEAN TO SAY THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO THERE, BUT MOST -- IN THIS PLAN, MOST OF THE -- THE PARKING SPACES WERE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE WATERFRONT SIDE AND SCATTERED OUT THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.

AND MANY OF THOSE SPACES THAT I SAW ON THE PLAN ARE ALREADY BEING USED. JUST NOT DESIGNATED.

NO REAL INCREASE IN PARKING WITH THE PLAN THAT I SAW.

JUST TAKING AWAY FROM THE WATERFRONT.

THE PEOPLE THAT USE THE WATERFRONT GO WITH FISHING GEAR, I HAVE MECHANICS. I HAVE CANVAS PEOPLE WORKING WITH EQUIPMENT AND TRUCKS. PARKING -- AND ANOTHER THING IS THAT I WOULD SAY PROBABLY A THIRD OF MY VISITORS, PASSENGERS, ARE ELDERLY. WALKING MORE THAN A BLOCK FOR AN ELDERLY PERSON TODAY IS IMPOSSIBLE.

SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IMPACTING AT LEAST A THIRD OF MY CUSTOMERS. NOW IF I SOLD MY BUSINESS TOMORROW AND RETIRED, A PARK ON THE WATERFRONT WILL BE QUITE ATTRACTIVE FOR ME. BUILD ME A PARK BENCH AND LET ME SPEND THE REST OF THE DAY TO LOOKING AT THE REFER.

I AM TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING AND SO MANY OTHERS.

KIND OF DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO TAKE AWAY THE PARKING AND NOT LEAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR THE BOAT OWNERS AND BOAT PASSENGERS. SO THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, CAPTAIN.

WE INVITE BACK TO THE PODIUM, MR. PAUL LAURIE.

GOOD EVENING, AGAIN, MR. MAYOR AND OF COMMISSIONERS.

11 SOUTH 11TH STREET. SINCE I OWN PA RESIDENCE DOWNTOWN, I AM WATCHING HOW EVERYTHING IS KIND OF FALLING OUT. AS YOU KNOW -- AS YOU KNOW ME OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, I AM ALL ABOUT THE BIG B WORD, "BALANCE." I'M HERE AS AN ADVOCATE FOR THE BUSINESSES AND AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS WHAT MAKES A HAPPY COMMUNITY. YOU CAN'T SIDE JUST PER THE RESIDENTS. AND YOU JUST CAN'T SIDE FOR THE BUSINESSES. SO YOU GOT A HECK OF A JOB AHEAD OF YOU. HOPEFULLY SOME OF THE WORK THAT IS THERE IS JUST A RESHUFFLE. I THINK TEAMS YOU CAN LOOK AT SPACE DIFFERENTLY. AND YOU CAN ASK AN ARCHITECT THAT. YOU CAN LOOK AT A HOME AND RESHAPE A HOME AND REGAIN A BETTER PLAN.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT IS ALL IT IS. BUT FOR A RESIDENT, IT TEAMS GETS CONFUSING FOR ME, WHEN YOU SPEND PUBLIC MONEY FOR CONSERVATION LAND, BUT ALSO YOU ARE LOOKING TO OPEN UP LAND.

YOU KNOW, FOR COMMERCIAL USE. SOMETIMES IT GETS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. JUST GIVING YOU A PERSONAL VIEW AS A SMALL -- AS A SMALL RESIDENT HERE.

BUT I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU FIND THE BALANCE IN THE RECONSTRUCTION. THAT IS WORKING WATERFRONT DOWN THERE. AND I KNOW A LOT OF FRIENDS AND A LOT OF ASSOCIATES AND EVERYBODY THAT GOES DOWN THERE.

AND I'M A HUGE ADVOCATE OF USING THE WATER.

SO THE WEEKEND I WAS PLAYING AND SAW THREE COMMERCIAL BUSES IN

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SO EVERYBODY HAS GOT TO KIND OF RESPECT AND I THINK, I THINK EVERYBODY'S SPACE. AND GOT -- I LOVE PLAYING DOWN THERE. AND THAT ALSO DELIVERS A MESSAGE OF BALANCE. RIGHT, WE WANT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW ALL OUR LITTLE SUBCOMMITTEES CAN -- YOU KNOW, CAN WORK TOGETHER. SO I WILL END WITH THIS.

I AM ACTUALLY -- EVERYBODY KEEPS THINKING IT IS HARD.

THAT I RUN THE PACIFIC OCEAN. I THINK YOU ALL HAVE A HARDER JOB. I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU BEING A COMMISSIONER AND NOW THE PARKING.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU FOR HAVING US OUT, MR. LAURIE.

I APPRECIATE IT. MR. WOLFGANG LINCOLN TO THE POD PODIUM.

>> WOLFGANG, FERNANDINA BEACH. I AM CUSTOMER IN THE MARINA.

I HAVE A BOAT THERE. AND I HAVE NO CAR.

WHY I DO SPEAK AT PARKING? SO MY WIFE HAS A CAR.

SO THE PRESENT CAPACITY OF THE PARKING LOTS AT A AND B SHOULD NOT BE REDUCED AT ALL. PARKING IS DESPERATELY NEEDED FOR THE BUSINESSES IN THE MARINA, FOR THE MARINA ITSELF, INCLUDING THE CUSTOMER. THE PARKING LOT B, THAT IS THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE, HAS CURRENTLY 49 SPOTS.

I PERSONALLY COUNTED, INCLUDING FOUR HANDICAPPED.

APPROXIMATELY 8:00 IN THE MORNING, THERE IS NO OPEN PARKING. THERE ARE PLENTY OF SMALL BUSINESSES WITH MANY CUSTOMERS THERE.

THAT IS NOT A COMPLAINT. THAT IS GOOD.

THE LOCAL SAILING SCHOOL, LOCAL CATAMARAN BUSINESSES, AND THE CUSTOMERS OF THE CITY MARINA. AND THEY ARE ALL UP EARLY.

THEY ALL SQUEEZING UP ON THE LOT.

AND THEY ARE ALWAYS DOWNTOWN VISITORS, TRYING TO GET A PLACE TO GET A CUP OF COFFEE. CUSTOMERS FROM THE HAMPTON INN USING AS AN OVERFLOW. MAYBE YOU GUYS DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT. BUSES UNLOAD AND LOAD VILLAGERS THERE. SOMETIMES IT IS REALLY BUSY.

SO IT'S A BUSY PLACE. AND THE PARKING LOTS A& B IN HIGH DEMAND. TAKING AWAY HALF OF THE SPOTS TO BUILD SMALL GRASS AREAS WHICH I LIKE, BUT IT DOES NOT HELP.

NEITHER THE CITIZENS NOR THE BUSINESSES, NOR THE VISITORS.

PLEASE VOTE THAT FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, THE CITY SHOULD MAINTAIN THE PARKING LOTS A AND B AT THE PRESENT CAPACITY. TO SAVE MONEY, LIKE $200,000, IT COULD BE USED TO PUT SUNSHADES OVER THE BENCHES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, CITY COMMISSION.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

CALL UP CAPTAIN ALAN MILLS TO THE PODIUM.

>> ALAN MILLS, 1425 BROOM STREET.

MAYOR, I AM GOING TO QUOTE YOUR GRANDMOTHER.

BLUE IN THE FACE WITH THE PARK. THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH HAS MORE THAN ALL PARKS OF NASSAU COUNTY PUT TOGETHER AND WE ARE JUST A SMALL PART. NOT ONLY DOES THE MARINA UTILIZE THE PARKING LOT A, B, C AND D. EVERY DOWNTOWN MERCHANT, EVERY RESTAURANT COME DOWN HERE FOR THREE THINGS.

THEY COME DOWN HERE FOR RELAXATION AND RETAIL THERAPY AND HAVING A GREAT TIME. THEY DON'T COME TO THIS ISLAND FOR A PARK. AND WE NEED THE PARKING.

THIS YEAR ALONE, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, IF YOU GO DOWN SECOND STREET AND DAP THIRD STREET FROM ASH STREET SOUTH OR ALACHUA NORTH, YOU WILL RUN INTO SOMEBODY AND THEY WILL NOT WANT TOO MOVE AND NOWHERE TO GO AND THEY WILL PARK FURTHER SOUTH AS THE WEEKEND GOES. PARKING IS A MAJOR PROBLEM IN

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IT WILL COST DOWNTOWN MARINA. IT WILL COST EVERYBODY.

IT IS NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR THE CITY TAXPAYERS AT ALL.

YOU ARE TAKING MONEY FROM US BECAUSE PEOPLE CANNOT PARK AND DO WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO. I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL.

IF YOU DON'T THINK WE GET MORE PARKING OUT OF THIS AREA DOWNTOWN, A FRONT NOW IS THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL AND YOU LOOK AT C AND D AND YOU LOOK HOW MANY PEOPLE PARK THERE TOGETHER AND HOW MANY PARK DURING THE A RIVER FESTIVAL, YOU CAN INCREASE OUR PARKING DOWNTOWN BY TWICE. GO COUNT FOR YOURSELVES, GUYS.

THE SOFTBALL PEOPLE COMES IN THERE AND PARKS THESE PEOPLE, THEY WILL DOUBLE IT UP. WE CAN DO THIS EVERY DAY AND HELP ALL THE COMMUNITIES MAKE MORE MONEY AND GET THE TOURISTS THAT WE DRIVE FOR MORE PLEASURE. THANK YOU.

>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, SIR. WE WILL INVITE MR. NOLAN COVERY.

MISS CORY. THANK YOU.

>> JOAN. >>MAYOR BEAN: JOAN.

[LAUGHTER] THEJ.

IT IS JOAN. I APPRECIATE YOU.

[LAUGHTER] JOAN CORY.

408 BEACH STREET. I -- THERE IS ONE ELEMENT THAT I DIDN'T HEAR IN ANY OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PARKING.

AND THAT IS OUR SPECIAL EVENTS PARKING.

THOSE OF US WHO LIVE NEAR THE RIVER BETWEEN CENTER STREET AND BEACH STREET ESPECIALLY, THOSE LITTLE BLOCKS GET JAMMED WITH -- WITH VISITORS, OF COURSE. BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME PLACE TO PARK. AND SO WE LOST A BIG CHANCE WHEN THE LUMBERYARD CLOSED DOWN. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD PLACE FOR A TWO-STORY PARKING PLACE NEAR THE RIVER.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE DO HAVE ABOUT 80 PARKING SPACES OVER BEHIND THE LIBRARY ON ONE LEVEL. AND IF WE JUST PUT UP ONE MORE LEVEL, IT WOULDN'T BLOCK OUT OUR HISTORIC BUILDINGS BUT THAT WILL BE ANOTHER 80 PARKING SPACES. SO I HOPE THAT THIS PLAN IS APPROVED WITH A CONDITION THAT YOU DO NOT STOP STUDYING THIS ISSUE AND CONSIDER OUR SPECIAL EVENTS PARKING, BECAUSE THOSE OF US WHO LIVE DOWNTOWN REALLY -- IT IS VERY -- YOU HAVE TO MAKE SIGNS THAT SAY DO NOT BLOCK DRIVEWAY.

YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, MISS JOAN.

WE APPRECIATE YOU. >> OH, YES.

THANK YOU. >>MAYOR BEAN: HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THAT IS ALL THE REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THIS. ANY MORE REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION. VICE-MAYOR STURGESS.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: VERY BRIEFLY I BELIEVE WE SHOULD LEAVE PARKING A AND B ALONE. LEAVE OFF THOSE 30 SPOTS AND LEAVE THE OTHER ALONE. WE WILL INCREASE OUR PARKING OTHER THAN DECREASE OUR PARKING. I ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER VISIONS THAT WOULD BE GREAT. MISS CORY TOUCHED ON IT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD GO TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF OUR ENTRANCE TO OUR CITY AND TALK ABOUT PARKING GARAGE THERE INSTEAD OF TOWARD THE WATER.

THERE IS A LARGE PIECE OF VACANT LAND BEHIND PINELAND BANK A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A PARKING GARAGE IN AT SOME POINT.

THE LAND GOES DOWN AT AN ANGLE. THEY INCREASED HEIGHT OF THE PARKING GARAGE WILL BE OF LESS OBTRUSIVE TO THE EYE.

THOSE ARE JUST RAW 50,000-FOOT VIEW OF WHAT I THINK OUR CITY SHOULD TO DO IMPROVE PARKING FOR DOWNTOWN.

THE VISITOR ALSO DRIVE DIRECTLY TO 8TH STREET, GO TO THE PARKING GARAGE. AND THEY WILL HAVE TO GET OUT AND WALK ALL THE WAY DOWN AND ALL THE WAY BACK FOR EVERY BUSINESS AND GET IN THEIR CAR AND GO HOME.

SOFT VERY BRIEFLY, SUMMER RISE, REMOVE THE 37 SPOTS FROM A AND B AND HAVE THE PARKING LOT WHERE IT IS.

RENOVATE IT. REPAIR IT.

AND MOVE ON. THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU HAVE VICE-MAYOR.

COMMISSIONER SYESCUE. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: I AGREE

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I BELIEVE THAT WILL SAVE US SOME COSTS.

JEREMIAH COULD PROBABLY HELP US OUT WHAT THAT COST SAVINGS WOULD FEBRUARY WE DIDN'T -- IF WE DIDN'T TOUCH B.

LEFT PARKING LOT B ALONE. WHERE WOULD WE BE WITH THAT.

AND BECAUSE A IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER AND A IS KIND WE ALL -- AT LEAST I AM -- ONE OF THE FIRST PLACES I GO.

LET ME SEE WHAT PARKING LOT A IS GOING ON.

IT IS ALWAYS FULL. ALWAYS SOMETHING DONE.

RECONSIDERATION AND SEE WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE AND MAYBE B WILL BE DOWN THE ROAD. AND THIS IS JUST MY THOUGHT ON

IT. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR

JEREMIAH? >>.

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: JUST HAVING THAT UP THERE, $104,000.

AND WE LEFT B ALONE. >>MAYOR BEAN: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HE COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: CRA PLAN WAS PASSED 30 YEARS AGO.

25, 30 YEARS AGO. IN THAT PLAN, IT SAID WHAT THE PLAN WAS, WHICH IS STILL THE PLAN, WAS TO ELIMINATE ALL PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACK.

WE NOW HAVE -- WE APPOINTED A CRA COMMITTEE.

SPENT HOURS HOURS ON THIS. CAME UP WITH A PLAN.

WE MET AS A GROUP. WE AGREED TO IT.

HERE WE GO AGAIN. WE GET TO THE VERGE.

WE KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ONCE AGAIN.

A LOT OF THE PARKING, I WOULD AG AGREE. I RIDE MY BIKE THROUGH THERE IN THE MORNINGS AND IT IS AMAZING HOW MANY EMPLOYEES PARK IN THIS PARKING LOT. THEY ARE EMPLOYEES.

THEY TAKE UP THE PARKING LOTS. EMPLOYEES IN THE RESTAURANTS.

WHAT WE NEED IS MANAGEMENT OF PARKING AND FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE PARKING AVAILABLE FOR OUR -- FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS STAND FOR THE MARINA. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAN.

IT'S BEEN VETTED NOW BY THE CRA COMMITTEE.

IT HAS BEEN VETTED BY US AS THE CRA, AND HERE WE ARE.

I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLAN AS WRITTEN.

>>MAYOR BEAN: I DO HEAR A SECOND? I HEAR NO SECOND. DO I HEAR ANOTHER MOTION?

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLAN MINUS LOT B.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THE PLAN WITHOUT LOT B.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? >> I SECOND THAT.

>>MAYOR BEAN: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION THAT DOES EVERYTHING BUT LOTB.

START WITH COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: I AGREE WITH ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT HO SPOKE.

I QUESTION SPENDING MONEY IN A AND B WHAT THE COMMUNITY INTEREST AND COMMISSION INTEREST OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PROPERTY

AT BRETT'S. >>MAYOR BEAN: VICE-MAYOR STIR

GELS. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK THAT IT IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY FOR US TO GET INTO A AND B RIGHT NOW.

I HIKE THE IDEA OF REDESIGN GOING WE DIDN'T LOSE ANY SPACES.

BUT WHERE OUR WALL IS AND WHERE BRETT'S -- WHEN THINGS CHANGE AT THAT POINT TWO YEARS FROM NOW WHEN WE START PUTTING ON THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IN THAT AREA, THAT IS MOSTLY THE AREA WE ARE IN. AND -- AND OUR NEEDS CAN CHANGE AT THAT POINT. SO WHY SPEND EXTRA MONEY RIGHT NOW WHEN IT REQUEST CHANGE IN TWO YEARS A VERY FAST TIME IN A COMMERCIAL ENVIRONMENT SUCH AS A CITY.

I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD JUST APPROVE THE SLAM DUNK, SOUTH SECOND STREET, SOUTH SEVENTH STREET AND PARKING LOT B AND CALL IT A DAY. NOT GOING TO COST US A LOT OF MONEY. WE STILL GET PARKING AND MOVE TO

ANOTHER DAY, THANK YOU. >>MAYOR BEAN: ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW FOR APPROVING THIS MINUS PARKING LOT B.

COMMISSIONER ROSS, ONCE MORE. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: WHAT I DON'T SEE IS PARKING LOT C AND D.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT, JEREMIAH. >>MAYOR BEAN: NOT PART OF THE

PLAN, COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> CHARLIE GEORGE, CITY ENGINEER. WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE IT IS PRETTY MUCH IMPERVIOUS NOW.

JUST A MATTER OF MOVING WHEEL SPOTS TO CREATE ADDITIONAL

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BUT WE WOULD INCREASE SOME OF THE SPACES IN THAT AREA THAN

WHAT IS NOW. >>MAYOR BEAN: CITY ENGINEER, HOW MANY EXTRA SPOTS IN PARKING LOT C AND D.

>> EXCUSE KNEE BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF PACKAGES --

>> I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >>MAYOR BEAN: VICE-MAYOR

STURGESS. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY BRIEFLY ADDITIONAL PLACES IF YOU WANT TO BRING UP C AND D, I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO MOVING THE COURTS TO CENTRAL PARK AND CREATE MORE PARKING IN C AND D FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, MR. VICE-MAYOR.

THE MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE THE PLAN AS IS THOSE FIVE LINE ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PARKING LOT B.

IF THERE IS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE.

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: NO.

>>MAYOR BEAN: YES. YES.

THAT PASS 4-1. THIS APPROVES PARKING LOT B WILL NOT BE TOUCHED IN THIS ITEM. AND THAT'S HOW THAT IS GOING.

ALL RIGHT ALREADY MOVING RIGHT I HAVE A LONG.

[7.3 REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS - CITY MANAGER SEARCH FIRM - RESOLUTION 2023-50 AWARDING RFP #23-07 FOR CITY MANAGER EXECUTIVE SEARCH SERVICES TO _____________________; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: The City Commission will consider proposals received from executive search firms to assist the City in conducting a search for a new City Manager and award RFP #23-07 based on their evaluations.]

7.3. REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL.

CITY MANAGER SEARCH TERM. >> GUILT AHEAD.

COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS ON THE AGENDA AT YOUR REQUEST.

THE CITY -- THE CITY PURCHASING AGENT DID PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR CITY MANAGER EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRMS. AND THERE WAS NO EVALUATION DONE BY STAFF.

WE COLLECTED THE PROPOSALS AND THEN THEY ARE HERE FOR YOUR RANKING, DISCUSSION AND CHOOSING A TERM.

>>MAYOR BEAN: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ANY MOTION OR ANY DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS?

COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: I GUESS I WANTED TO PUT MY TWO CENTS IN. THE SPREADSHEET.

THANK YOU, CAROLINE, FOR GIVING US THE DIRECTIVES OF CRITERIA.

IF WE ARE LOOKING AT FULFILLING ALL THE CRITERIA HERE.

THERE IS, TO ME, TWO OF THE FIRMS -- ONE FIRM THAT STANDS OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. TWO THAT ARE A CLOSE SECOND AND TWO THAT FALL A LITTLE BIT TOO THE WAYSIDE.

OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IN SOME OF THESE WERE COSTS.

BUT ULTIMATELY, I AM LOOKING AT TWO OF THE TOP FIRMS THAT SEEMED TO HAVE THE MOST EXPERIENCE IN BRINGING BACK PUBLIC CITY MANAGERS AND TOWN MANAGERS AND SOMETHING THAT WEIGHS FAIRLY HEAVILY IF WE HAVE UP WITH OF THE FIRMS IN PARTICULAR.

I DON'T SEE ANY CANDIDATES THAT THEY HAVE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE THAT HAVE BEEN CHOSEN AS A CITY MANAGER.

THEY ARE MORE EDUCATIONAL, SCHOOL BOARD AND CHARITY POSITIONS I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR OPINIONS OF WHAT FIRMS MAKE THE TOP TWO AND TOP THREE AND AND HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON

THAT. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ANTUN. COMMIS

COMMISSIONER. >>.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: I THINK BEFORE WE CHOOSE A FIRM, CERTAIN QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ANSWERED AND CERTAIN ANSWERS FOR OUR COMMITTEE. THE FIRST QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED IS, BECAUSE I THINK ANY FIRM IS GOING TO WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS. AND ANY CANDIDATE IS GOING TO WANT TO KNOW IS WHY THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER WAS TERMINATED.

THE SECOND QUESTION, I THINK, IS WHAT THE NEW CITY MANAGER WOULD NEED TO DO DIFFERENTLY TO NOT MEET THAT FATE.

THE THIRD IS, WHAT IS OUR -- OUR EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS CANDIDATE. WHAT ARE THE EXPERIENCE REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS CITY COMMISSION WANTS TO SEE.

WHAT KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVE AND MANAGEMENT ABILITY DO WE WANT.

WHAT KIND OF GOVERNMENT AND BUDGET FINANCIALS.

WHAT KIND OF RELATIONS AND PERSONAL EXPERIENCE INCLUDING WORKING WITH UNIONS DOES THIS COMMISSION EXPECT THIS PERSON TO HAVE. THEIR INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS, INNOVATIONS AND MAJOR ACHIEVEMENTS AND ORDINANCE, SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE. AND FINALLY, WHAT COSTS -- WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO PAY A CITY MANAGER.

AS FAR AS THESE THREE FIRMS, I DUTIFULLY FILLED IN THE SPREADSHEET. AFTER READING ALL THESE CAREFULLY. AND I CAME UP WITH NEW HAMPSHIRE COLIN BENEZER FIRST CHOICE AND CLOSE SECOND WITH

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BUT I THINK THAT THE CITY COMMISSION NEEDS TO DEFINE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IN A CANDIDATES AS PART OF SELECTING A FIRM. AND AS PART OF THE MANDATE FOR THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WE TESS IG NATED.

>>MAYOR BEAN: COMMIS COMMISCOMMIS

COMMISSIONER ASCUE. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: IF WE WERE STARTING THE DISCUSSION. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SEARCH COMMITTEE WAS FORMED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

I TWO ASSUME THAT THE SEARCH COMMITTEE WILL FORM THE -- THE MANAGER THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR WHETHER IT BE FINANCIAL BACKGROUND, WORKING WITH UNIONS. HOW THEY HIRE PEOPLE.

ALL OF THOSE PROCESSES WOULD BE DONE THROUGH THE SEARCH COMMITTEE. I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IS WHY WE FORMED THEM. THEY WOULD TAKE ON THE TASK OF DOING THAT. I MEAN IF -- IF -- IF WE ARE TO GIVE THEM EXACT DIRECTION ON EXACTLY EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS BE IN IT, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE THERE.

SO I WOULD TASK THEM WITH ALL OF THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES.

AND THEN -- THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE KNOWING WHAT -- WHAT CANDIDATE OUR CITY SEARCH COMMITTEE IS LOOKING FOR.

CARIBBEAN THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AS SKEW.

CITY CLERK. >> MONDAY APRIL 16, 6 P.M. IN

CHAMBERS. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CITY CLERK. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE WILL NOW -- I THINK A QUESTION WE ALL NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT IS WHAT WILL BE THIS -- WHAT PART OF THE PROCESS WILL THE SEARCH FIRM GO OUT AND PLAY.

GO OUT AND GATHER THE CANDIDATES? LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT OF HOW THEY ARE GOING TO HANDLE IT.

THE WAY I SEE IT AND AGREE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER AYESCUE.

OUR COMMITTEE WILL BE PROVIDING SP PECS AND WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR. OF WHAT WE EXPECT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THAT GROUP WILL SET WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

WE NEED TO GIVE THEM -- THIS SEARCH FIRM IN WHAT THEY WILL BE DOING. I THINK WE NEEDS TO DEFINE WHAT THE SEARCH FIRM IS GOING TO BE DOING AND HOW WE -- AND HOW WE INTERACT WITH THEM. WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM COMMISSIONER ROSS. ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATION FROM ANY OTHER COMMITTEE AS TO WHO WE ARE PICKING FOR THE SEARCH FIRM AND WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING? COMMISSIONER ROSS DOES HAVE HIS LIGHT ON, COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: TO BE HONEST, I AM SOMEWHAT -- I AM SELDOM SPEECHLESS, BUT IT IS THE CITY'S COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITY TO DEFINE WHAT WE WANT -- THAT IS WHY YOU GUYS ARE HERE -- WHY WE ARE HERE. AND ABROGATING THAT DUTY TO A COMMITTEE I THINK IS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALL THESE COMMITTEES -- AS FAR AS EXPENSES GO. IF YOU REALLY DRILL DOWN INTO THESE FIVE THINGS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE WHICH IS A PRETTY BIG OUTLIER. ALL OF THEM IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU PAY, THEY -- THE EXPERIENCE IS ALMOST THE SAME FOR ALL FIVE -- ALL FOUR OF THEM WHEN YOU DRILL DOWN WHAT THEY ARE WILLING -- WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

THAT NUMBER THAT THEY ARE EXTRA IS NOT REALLY -- IS NOT TOTALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TOTAL PRICE.

BECAUSE SOME OF THEM IS A TOTAL PRICE AND SOME OF THEM WE WERE GOING -- THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO PAY PRICES.

EACH FIRM WENT INTO VERY CLEARLY WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO IN THOSE PACKETS. THEY WENT THROUGH THEIR WHOLE PROCESS IN THAT. I THINK WHEN YOU ARE PICKING A FIRM, YOU ARE PICKING THAT PROCESS.

THEY TOLD YOU WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO.

AND SO I THINK THAT IS CLEAR -- IF YOU HAVE -- WHEN READING THESE, IT IS CLEARLY DELINEATES WHAT EACH ONE OF THOSE FIRMS IS GOING TO DO AND HOW THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT.

>>MAYOR BEAN: VICE- VICE-MAYOR STURGES.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

VERY BRIEFLY, I KNOW THIS IS NOT A WORKSHOP, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND DISCUSS THINGS, AND I AM GOING TO 3I67 THIS OUT THERE BECAUSE IN A MATTER OF TIME, I BELIEVE THAT THEY MEET ON THE 17TH, WE NEED TO HAVE A GAME PLAN OR WE NEED TO BE MOVING FORWARD. SO I WANT TO FEEL HOW THE COMMERCIAL IS. WE GOT THESE SEARCH FIRMS.

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HERE IS THE SEARCH FIRMS. HERE IS THE COST.

HERE IS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE.

NOW WHAT I AM SAYING IS, WE NEED TO KNOW THE F THE EAR OF THE COMMISSION BASICALLY RIGHT NOW. 3-2? DO WE WANT TO HERE A SEARCH FIRM TO DO THE HEAVY LIFTING AND MOVE ON, OR GO AND LET OUR COMMITTEE AND LET OUR STAFF GO OVER RESUMES. IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO A QUICK CONSENSUS OF THAT ANSWER, WHETHER I AM ON THE SHORT END OR NOT ON THE SHORT END OR WHOEVER IS, WHATEVER THE CONDITION IS, WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION THIS EVENING TO PROCEED FORWARD IN THIS SEARCH COMMITTEE. THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION ABOUT IT. AND I WILL GO EITHER DIRECTION.

GUILT AHEAD AND LET YOU KNOW THAT.

I AM FINE WITH LETTING STAFF AND THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE WITH BACKGROUND CHECKS DO IT. OR IF I AM ON THE SHORT END OF THE STICK THIS EVENING AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO HIRE A FIRM, LET'S DO THAT AND MOVE FORWARD. THAT IS MY OPINION.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, VICE-MAYOR.

COMMISSIONER AYESCUE. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: YES, SIR. SO I SAID QUITE, YOU KNOW, LOUDLY THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A DIRECTION TO THE CANDIDATES THAT COME IN. WHETHER -- WE DO HAVE EXACTLY WHAT EACH -- WHAT EACH FIRM WILL DO.

WE COULD PICK OUT OF THOSE FIRMS AND GO BACK TO THEM.

PICK THREE OR FOUR OF THEM AND WHATEVER.

GO BACK TO THEM AND SAY, CAN WE HAVE AA A LA CARTE AND USE YOU FOR JUST YOUR BACKGROUND SEARCHES FOR JUST YOUR -- YOUR APPLICANTS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

BUT FOR ME, THE ONLY THING THAT I AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, VICE-MAYOR, I HAVE TO HAVE VETTING. I NEED TO HAVE PROFESSIONAL VETTING OF THE CANDIDATES THAT APPLY.

SO HOWEVER THAT IS DONE, I AM -- I AM ON BOARD WITH.

BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A SEARCH FIRM TO DO EVERY SINK THING, BECAUSE I THINK OUR COMMITTEE WILL DO A GREAT JOB WITH THAT. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO GET APPLICANTS ONCE WE POST IT. GOOD, QUALIFIED APPLICANT HAS IN COME IN AND WE WILL NEED TO VET IT.

AND I THINK HAVING AN OUTSIDE FIRM DO THAT, THEN I AM HAPPY.

>>MAYOR BEAN: COMMIS COMMISSIONER AYESCUE.

DO YOU THINK THE PERSON THAT CAN VET THEM IS ON THE LIST TODAY?

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: I DO. THERE ARE A COUPLE -- THREE OR FOUR THAT WE CAN GO TO AND GO BACK TO THEM.

PICK THREE OF THEM -- I WAS LOOKING IT UP ON -- ON OUR E-MAIL HERE. THAT WE CAN PICK THREE OF THEM, GO BACK TO THEM AND SAY WE NEED FOR TO YOU VET OUR CANDIDATES.

AND THIS IS -- THIS IS -- WHAT IS THE COST FOR TO YOU VET THE CANDIDATES? OUR FIRST MEETING IS THE 17TH.

OUR COMMITTEE WILL GET TOGETHER. THEY WILL START FORMING EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR IN A CITY MANAGER.

THEY WILL START SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO PUT OUT AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. PUT APPLICANTS IN.

THE VETTING PROCESS WILL GO TO A FIRM, AND I WILL BE COMFORTABLE

WITH THAT. >>MAYOR BEAN: I UNDERSTAND.

ALL RIGHT. THIS BRINGS UP A QUESTION THAT I NEED TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS.

CAN I ASK MISS DENISE TO COME FORWARD TODAY.

I SEE HER IN THE ROOM. IF A THE QUESTION IS ABOUT THE VETTING PROCESS FOR OUR POLICE CHIEF.

WE DID THE SEARCH, I KNOW THE LAST TIME WE TALKED 50 APPLICANTS, NARROW IT DOWN TO 25 CREDIBLE APPLICANTS AND FOUR FROM THERE WITH BACKGROUND CHECKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE VETTING PROCESS. HOW DID WE -- HOW DID WE VET

THOSE PEOPLE? >> WE HAVE A -- FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES, WE DO HAVE A BACKGROUND CHECK COMPANY THAT WE USE TO DO CRIMINAL HISTORY CHECKS, PRIOR EMPLOYMENT.

IT'S BASIC INFORMATION, HOWEVER. IT IS NOT AS EN DEPTH AS A SEARCH TERM FOR AN EXECUTIVE POSITION.

LEANING A CITY MANAGER. BUT WE DID JUST USE OUR BACKGROUND CHECK COMPANY THAT WE KERR CURRENTLY DEAL WITH.

>>MAYOR BEAN: NOT A SINGLE EMPLOYEE -- WE DON'T DO OUR OWN BACKGROUND CHECKS. ALL GOES TO A THIRD PARTY.

>> YES. >>MAYOR BEAN: WE HAVE THE NAME

OF THAT FIRM ALREADY? >> YES.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THESE FIRMS WHEN YOU READ THEIR MATERIAL.

3 PAGES OR MORE FOR EACH ONE OF THEM, THEY GO OUT AND GIVE YOU THE WIDEST AMOUNT OF CANDIDATES. PART OF THEIR JOB.

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PART OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND GET MOST QUALIFIED PEOPLE THEY CAN GET CASTING A WIDE NET AFTER WE TELL THEM WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, THEN THEY NARROW THEM DOWN AND VET.

NARROW THEM DOWN TO ONE GROUP, FIVE, TEN, ONE OF THEM WAS 15.

AND THEN COME FORWARD WITH THOSE NAMES.

AND THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. A FULL-TIME JOB.

THEY SPEND THEIR TIME DOING THIS.

WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT IS GOING TO -- 17TH.

A LONG TIME TO EVEN FIGURE OUT A DATE.

FOUR OF THEM ARE WORKING PEOPLE. THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO ALL THESE THINGS. THIS IS A FULL-TIME JOB FOR SOMEBODY. WILL TAKE 200, 300 HOURS.

THAT A LOT OF TIME FOR SOMEBODY TO SPEND.

AND SO WHAT I -- WHAT I HOPE WE CAN DO IS HIRE ONE OF THESE FIRMS, GO THROUGH WITH WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO, WORK WITH -- AND ALL OF THEM TALKED OF WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE.

FINDING OUT WHAT THE CITY COMMISSIONERS WANT.

AND I AM NOT -- I AM NOT OPPOSED TO HIRING ANY ONE OF THOSE THREE. COLIN BENEKER IS A LITTLE AHEAD.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO. WE HAVE ALMOST -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WEEKS WE ARE IN THIS. BUT WE ARE STILL DOING -- NOT A WHOLE LOT. AND THIS IS A WAY.

HAVING ONE PERSON TAKING CARE OF THE PROBLEM.

ONE PERSON NEEDS TO BE IN CHARGE.

AND THIS IS WHAT THIS COMPANY IS.

THEY ARE THE SOURCE. THEY TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING.

THEY MAGE SURE ALL THE LEGAL PROBLEMS ARE TAKEN CARE OF.

THEY VET THE CANDIDATES. THEY CAST A WIDE NET.

THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE PAYING THEM TO DO.

I THINK THAT IS IS A VERY REASONABLE THING.

NOW, JUST ALL -- MR. HENSON. WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT A WONDERFUL ADVISOR HE WAS GOING TO BE. HOW HE IS SO WALL FILED.

ALL THOSE THINGS. YOU KNOW THE FIRST THING THAT MR. HENSON TOLD ME WHEN I CALLED HIM UP? YOU NEED TO HIRE A SEARCH FIRM. HE SAID I WOULD URGE TO YOU DO THAT. THAT IS THE WAY TO GO.

HE IS THE QUALIFIED PERSON, THE ADVISOR AND RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, HE SAID WE -- YOU OUGHT TO HIRE A SEARCH FIRM.

NO IFS, ANDS OR BUTS. AND HE WAS PRETTY EMPHATIC.

I MAKE MOTION TO HIRE COLIN BENEGER TO DO OUR SEARCH FIRM

WORKING IN COORDINATION WITH -- >> SPILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND --

>> REWE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT? >>MAYOR BEAN: YES, MA'AM, WE ARE. I DON'T HAVE ANY FORMS IN FRONT OF ME. IS THERE ONE OVER THERE? THERE IS ONE OVER THERE. ALL RIGHT.

AS WELL THIS TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THEN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU.

LET'S CALL UP JULIE FERRERA TO THE PODIUM.

>> JULIE FERRERA, 501 DATE STREET.

BEFORE YOU VOTE, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TAKE A PAUSE AND THINK OF WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS SAID.

THAT AS A COMMISSION, YOU ALL NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AS A -- AS A CITY MANAGER. I DON'T THINK THAT RESIDENTS -- ANY US COULD BE ON THAT BOARD. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD EVER BE -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO RUN THIS CITY.

YOU GUYS ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS. YOU KNOW OR SHOULD KNOW OR ARE LEARNING WHAT IT TAKES TO RUN THIS CITY.

BUT AS RESIDENT, A RESIDENT IS GOING TO KNOW WHAT PRIORITY BEING ABLE TO WORK AND NEGOTIATE WITH UNIONS.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SPECIALLY HANDPICKED THIS COMMITTEE. I FEEL LIKE IT IS HEAVILY WEIGHTED TOWARD THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

AND THAT IT IS HEAVILY WEIGHTED TOWARD DEVELOPMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CENTER STREET. THAT IS MY OPINION.

BUT YOU ARE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND WE LOOK TO YOU TO KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO RUN THIS CITY.

KNOW HOW BEST TO RUN THIS CITY. AND HOW TO DEFINE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. JUST LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS SAID. WE GOT RID OF A CITY MANAGER SO WHAT IS THE NEW GUY OR WOMAN SUPPOSED TO DO THAT IS DIFFERENT? YOU HAVE TO DEFINE THAT.

I DON'T THINK IT IS EFFECTIVE TO LET A GROUP OF CITIZENS DEFINE THAT PERSONALLY. THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, MISS FERRERA.

ALL RIGHT. SO ABOUT THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. AND -- AND GUILT AHEAD AND THROW OUT THERE THAT WE HAVE NOW -- WE HAVE NOW WAITED A MONTH.

WE WAITED A MONTH. WE HAVEN'T POSTED THE JOB YET.

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SOMETHING I DIDN'T THINK EXISTED AS HEAVILY TWO OR THREE CITY MANAGER SEARCHES AGO. SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT SEEN -- SOMETHING THAT IS NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVEN'T TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THAT THERE IS NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT IS APPROACHED. WE HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN WAITING AND I DON'T THAT I IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.

SO WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE A MOTION.

AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. I WILL NOW GO AHEAD -- MISS -- MISS INCHES WANTS TO SPEAK. YOU CAN FELL IT OUT AT THE END.

COME FORWARD, MISS COFFEY. >> SHEILA COCIE.

I AM A HUMAN RESOURCES PROFESSIONAL.

A CERTIFIED HUMAN RESOURCES PROFESSIONAL.

YOU CAN SEND OUT FOR RESUMES. YOU CAN POST A JOB.

AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WITH THE JOB MARKET THE WAY IT IS WILL APPLY. THOUSANDS MAYBE.

DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE QUALIFIED FOR THAT ROLE.

AND A RECRUITER, WHICH IS WHAT THIS SEARCH FIRM WILL BE, THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO CAN PULL THOSE PEOPLE OUT.

A BACKGROUND CHECK IS NOT VETTING.

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. AND TO NOT HAVE A PROFESSIONAL FIRM DO THIS IS -- I THINK TALS GOOD IDEA TO HAVE CITIZENS THAT ARE ACTIVE AND UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE CITY BUSINESS.

GOOD TO HAVE THAT INPUT, BUT SOMEBODY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE A PORT. WE HAVE A MARINA.

WE HAVE PARKS. WE HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT, A POLICE DEPARTMENT. EVERY CITY DOES NOT HAVE THOSE THINGS IN AGGREGATE. WE HAVE A HIS FOR TICK DISTRICT.

ALL THE THINGS THAT MAKE US SPECIAL.

AND SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING SHOULD BE DOING THAT AND VETTED BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

AND ALL OF YOU WILL HAVE THE INSIGHTS IN DEALING WITH THAT PERSON AND HOW THINGS ARE RUN. BUT -- THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL POSITION FOR A REASON. I DOUBT YOU WOULD LET SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT A DOCTOR WORK ON YOU MEDICALLY.

I DOUBT YOU WOULD WANT SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT A LAWYER TO REPRESENT YOU LEGALLY. SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.

AND UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF RECRUITING FOR THIS POSITION.

THANK YOU. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU.

MISS DAVIS, PLEASE COME UP. ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO GET ON DECK, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SPEAK.

WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ALL PUBLIC COMMENT.

MR. DEAN WILL BE ON DECK HE IS ARE SOMEWHERE HERE.

>> MARGARET DAVIS, 62 AVENUE FERNANDINA.

I AM PLEASED TO BE ONE OF THE CITIZENS REPRESENTATIVES ON THE FEV CITIZEN SEARCH COMMITTEE. I HAVE A VERY HEAVY LOAD TO CARRY GOING FORWARD. I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES BUT I WANT TO MAKE NOTE AS FAR AS ATLANTIC BEACH.

THEY HIRED A SEARCH FIRM AND USE ONE OF THE SEARCH FIRMS THAT RESPONDED TO OUR PROPOSALS SO MAY BE ONE REASON YOU ARE ALREADY SEEING A LOT OF INTEREST IN AND INFORMATION SUCH AS COMPETITIVE SALARY AND CONSIDERED PEER CITY FROM THE FLORIDA LIKE OF CITIES. THEY ARE USING A SEARCH FIRM AND ONE OF THE ONES THAT RESPONDED TO TO OUR RFP CARIBBEAN THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

MR. DEAN. >> RICHARD DEAN, 4104 FERNANDINA BEACH. OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS A FINE IDEA, BUT THE POINT MADE EARLIER NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BY IN COMMISSION WHICH IS ANY CANDIDATE WORTH THEIR MUST WILL WANT TO HEAR FROM EACH OF YOU.

BECAUSE THEY REPORT TO YOU. YOU MAKE THE HIRE.

AND YOU NEED TO SPELL OUT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IN A CANDIDATES, WHAT YOUR VISION IS, WHERE THE PREDECESSOR WENT WRONG. AND HOW THEY ARE GOING TO INTERACT WITH YOU. I WORKED IN THE SEARCH PROCESS AND I HAVE DONE SENIOR EXECUTIVES, HIRES LIKE THIS AND ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS. AN ORGANIZATION LIKE WHERE YOU HAD AN ELECTED -- AN ELECTED BOARD.

AND -- AND AN EXECUTIVE REPORTING TO THAT PERSON.

AND THIS RELATIONSHIP HAS GOT TO BE DEFINED BY YOU ALL.

AND THE CITIZENS COMMITEE CAN'T DO THAT.

THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THE ATTRIBUTES AND OTHER THINGS, BUT IT IS YOU ALL THAT THIS PERSON REPORTS TO.

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END OF THE YEAR. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, MR. DEAN. KEEP IN MIND A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. ANY MORE REQUESTS OF PUBLIC SPEAK BEFORE WE? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. CITY CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL

THE ROLE. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: NO.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: NO. >>MAYOR BEAN: NO.

OVK, THAT MOTION FAILS. DO I HEAR ANOTHER MOTION?

COMMISSIONER AYESCUE. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: JUST A TAD BIT OF DISCUSSION. AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS WHAT I ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD AT LEAST. SOME PEOPLE IN GENERAL.

WE HAVE THE SEARCH COMMITTEE. THEY PUT TOGETHER THE -- THE PARAMETERS WHAT HAPPENED THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.

THEY TAKE IN APPLICATIONS FOR -- WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS.

AND THEY HAVE ADVISORS. AND THEN THEY WOULD NARROW DOWN CANDIDATES. AND THOSE CANDIDATES, WITH ONCE WE GET TO A CERTAIN POINT AND SET THOSE PARAMETERS.

LET'S SAY TOP THREE. LET'S SAY TOP FIVE.

THAT IS WHEN THE COMMISSION WILL BE INVOLVED IN MAKING THE HIRE.

THE COMMITTEE WILL BE MAKING THE HERE PER SE, BUT BRING US THE TOP THREE OR FIVE AND THIS IS KIND OF THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD THIS PROCESS TO WORK. AND, AGAIN, IT A SEARCH FIRM NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF RECRUITING, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. AGAIN, TO MISS GUCHI'S POINT, I THINK THAT VET A DIFFERENT THING THAN BACKGROUND CHECKS.

VETTING, TO ME -- I WILL USE AN EXAMPLE OF.

I WILL USE THE EXAMPLE OF, BACK IN THE EARLY '90S.

NOTRE DAME WAS LOOKING FOR A FOOTBALL COACH AND THEY FOUND THE EXACT PERFECT ONE IN GEORGE O'LEARY AND HE HAPPENED TO FIB A TAD BIT ON HIS RESUME AND CAUGHT AFTER THE FACT AND THIS IS WHAT VETTING -- LET'S MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS VETTED.

LET'S MAKE SURE IF THEY SAY THEY HAVE A DEGREE FROM THIS SCHOOL OR THAT SCHOOL, THAT IS WHAT THEY DO.

IF THEY HAVE THE EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND, WE FIND THAT.

I -- I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HR HAS THE TIME AND RESOURCES TO DO THAT. I WOULD LIKE A FIRM TO COME IN AND DO THAT AND VET THE CANDIDATES THAT COME IF WE NEED TO, I THINK WE CAN PICK TWO OR THREE OF THESE AND BRING US A PROPOSAL THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF RECRUITING AS, YOU KNOW, A FULL VETTING PROCESS AND ADVISEMENT TO OUR COMMITTEE.

AND SEE WHAT THAT COST IS. THEN WE CAN POTENTIALLY GO FROM THE $25,000, TO $35,000, MAYBE INTO THE $10,000 RANGE.

AND I THINK THAT IS MAYBE THE BALANCE THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

THAT IS JUST MY -- JUST MY -- JUST MY OPINION OF LAYING OUT EVERYTHING THAT I WOULD SEE FROM A TO B.

>>MAYOR BEAN: COMMIS COMMISSIONER AYESCUE.

THAT IS ALMOST A MOTION. AM I HEARING A MOTION FROM THAT?

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: I CAN MAKE THAT INTO A MOTION IF NEED BE. I BELIEVE THAT MADAM CLERK WILL NEED THAT STATED A LITTLE MORE SUCCINCT WAY.

>>MAYOR BEAN: WE HAVE MORE COMMENTS AND COME BACK TO THAT.

COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE THAT WE CAN HAVE AN A LA CARTE.

I THINK WE SHOULD CHOOSE THE FIRM OR NOT.

I AGREE WITH CHOOSING THE FIRM. I WILL SPEAK OUT OF PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. LOOKS SOMEBODY SAYING I WANT YOU TO ADJUST THE NECK AND SOME OTHER CHIROPRACTORS WITH ADJUST MY BACK. THERE IS MUDDYING OF THE WATER.

HE BELIEVE WE SHOULD GO WITH THE SEARCH FIRM.

HAVE YOUR RESIDENT CITY SEARCH COMMITTEE TO FILL IN GAPS, PROVIDE FEEDBACK. ABSOLUTELY WANT THEIR FEEDBACK.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

>>MAYOR BEAN: COMMISSIONER ROSS. ROGS

ROGS. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: WHO DIDN'T VOTE FOR APPROVING THIS SEARCH FIRM.

WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THE PROCESS? WHO IS THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF THE PROCESS? TO MAKE SURE THE TRAIN RUNS ON TIME. THEY GO OUT AND DO THE SEARCHES MOP IS THE PERSON? THE HR PERSON? A COMPANY THAT WILL HIRE THEIR OWN BOSS? I THINK NOT. ONE OF YOU? GREAT IDEA, WHICH ONE WANTS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE? WHO IS IN CHARGE HERE. I MEAN, WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS HIRING A SEARCH FIRM. PUTTING SOMEBODY IN CHARGE OF -- OF RUNNING THIS PROCESS. RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NOBODY IN CHARGE. AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE IS NO CAPTAIN OF THE SHIP, IT DOESN'T GO DO WELL.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES WHO IS GOING TO BE IN

CHARGE OF THIS PROCESS. >>MAYOR BEAN: ALL RIGHT.

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WE DO NEED TO HAVE A MOTION, COMMISSIONERS, AT SOME POINT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE DECISION ON THIS.

PERSONALLY IF I SAID WHO WILL BE IN CHARGE, I THINK THAT ANSWER WOULD BE CLEAR, WHO WOULD BE IN CHARGE, THAT WOULD BE THE CHAIR OF OUR SEARCH COMMITTEE. THAT PERSON WOULD BE A POINT OF CON OF CONTACT. THE PERSON RUNNING THIS.

AND I THINK THAT PERSON NO MATTER WHAT WE DECIDE WILL BE THE LEADER OF THIS CHARGE, SO TO SPEAK.

WHY WE APPOINTED OUR SEARCH COMMITTEE.

I AM LOOKING FOR ANY COMMENTS -- ON TOP OF THAT, I AM GOING TO SAY, I DO THINK THAT HR OF THE CITY WILL HAVE A BIG AND IN THIS AS WELL. HR OF THE CITY AND THE CHAIR OF OUR SEARCH COMMITTEE THAT I JUST APPOINTED.

LOOKING FOR OTHER COMMENTS OR A MOTION.

>> MY LIGHT IS ON. >>MAYOR BEAN: BECAUSE YOU JUST SPOKE. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: YOU ARE SAYING THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE COMMITTEE, FOUR OF WHICH WORK FULL H TIME WILL BE THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF SELECTING A NEW CITY MANAGER?

IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? >>MAYOR BEAN: YES, I AM SAYING THAT IN JOINT WITH OUR HR DEPARTMENT.

IT IS GOING BE TOO TEAM EFFORT. NOW COMMISSIONER ROSS, WE HAVE

MANY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: NO, I'M NOT FINISHED. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A COMMITTEE IN CHARGE OF THE COMMITTEE.

ONE PERSON IS IN CHARGE -- >>MAYOR BEAN: NOT A COMMITTEE IN CHARGE OF A COMMITTEE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. LOST ROSS THE HR PERSON OVER HERE. SOMEONE ELSE OVER HERE.

>>MAYOR BEAN: AT THE END OF THE DAY, COMMISSIONER ROSS, HR IS IN CHARGE OF ALL OF OUR HIRING. IF YOU DO A SEARCH FIRM, HR IS? CHARGE OF THE CITY. NOW GO AHEAD TO GO TO VICE-MAYOR STURGESS. STURGES.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.

THE HR IS NOT CHA IN CHARGE, THE CITY COMMISSION.

[GAVEL] VICE-MAYOR STURGES.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: I WILL BE GLADS -- I WILL TAKE CHARGE OF THAT COMMITTEE. I WILL SPEND ALL THE EXTRA TIME WHEN I AM NOT WORKING AND I WILL HEAD THAT COMMITTEE UP.

AND I WILL GET THE POOL OF CANDIDATES TOGETHER AND HELP WITH OUR HR DEPARTMENT. I DON'T THINK A LOT OF BEAM LIKE

THAT. >> NO THANKS.

>>MAYOR BEAN: EXCUSE ME.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: I MAKE MOTION TO DO IT A LA CARTE WITH RESEARCH FOR OUR CITY MANAGER AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO THAT. AND HAVE AN ANSWER BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND GET THIS PROCESS

STARTED. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, VICE-MAYOR. COMMISSIONER ASYCUE.

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION, AND GET A POINT OF CLARIFICATION WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR, MAYOR, OR WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS WAS ASKING FOR.

WHEN WE ESTABLISHED -- I BELIEVE WE NEED CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF. WE ESTABLISH THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE THAT WE DID AGAIN TONIGHT, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HR WAS GOING TO HAVE A HEAVY HAND IN -- IN BEING INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. THEY WERE GOING TO BE THERE TO HELP GUIDE, TO HELP FACILITATE, WHETHER MR. HANSON, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THEIR PURPOSE OF BEING VOFDZ IN THOSE MEETINGS WAS TO BASICALLY SPEARHEAD AND -- AND ASSIST THE COMMITTEE AS NEEDED. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO IF THEY NEEDED INFORMATION ON A TECH CANDIDATE OR ISSUE AND THE -- AND THE ADVISOR DIDN'T HAVE IT.

HR BE THERE TO HELP. MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THAT COMMITTEE, HR WAS GOING TO BE HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THAT COMMITTEE. SO TO ME, THE ANSWER IS, WHO IS SPEARHEADED IT? HR.

THEY WILL BE HEAVY HANDED. THEY WILL BE INVOLVED.

WITH A COMMITTEE, WE CAN A LA CARTE IT AS I SAID.

THAT'S WHY I CAN SECOND THAT MOTION.

WE CAN BRING THEM TO DO WHAT WE ARE SPECIFICALLY ASKING THEM TO DO AND OBVIOUSLY HR WILL BE HEAVY HANDED IN THE PROCESS.

THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THE COMMITTEE,

HOW IT WAS GOING TO OPERATE. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. VICE-MAYOR STURGES, YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON. TAMMY, DO YOU HAVE A POINT OF OR ORDER.

>> SORT OF. I HAVE A QUESTION.

MR. FOXWORTH AND I NEED TO KNOW IF WE ARE GOING BACK TO -- IF THAT IS THE DECISION TO GO BACK TO THE FIRMS. GO BACK TO ALL FIVE FIRMS. I THOUGHT I HEARD TWO AND THREE

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>>MAYOR BEAN: CORRECT. SO SKILL WITH COMMIS COMMISSIONER AYESCUE WITH THE CAN QUESTION.

GOING ALLAH CARTE AND LOOKS LIKE THE DIRECTION WE ARE GOING RIGHT NOW. WE GO THAT DIRECTION, WHAT SPECIFIC ITEMS. THE VETTING THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT. LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL RECRUITMENT IS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: IF YOU -- REVIEWING THEIR PROPOSALS, THEY -- THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY DO. THEY SPELL IT OUT EXACTLY WHAT EACH COST WILL BE. AND THIS.

THAT IS HOW THEY LINE ITEM IT. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WE CANNOT A LA CARTE WHAT THEY PUT IN THERE. IF WE ASK THEM, THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, TO ME, VET SOMETHING THE BIGGEST -- THE BIGGEST CHUNK OF THAT PIE. WE NEED TO HAVE THAT BUT THEY DO SO MANY OTHER THINGS. THEY PUT TOGETHER A LENGTHY PACKET ON FERNANDINA BEACH THAT THEY SEND OUT TO THE SKANLDZ.

DO WE WANT THIS TOME DO THAT? OR WOULD WE RATHER SEE OUR HR DEPARTMENT OR OUR COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR. YOU KNOW, DOES OUR COMMITTEE PUT IT TOGETHER AND GIVE IT TO THEM AND THEY HAVE THOSE IDEAS? I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, WE CAN -- WE CAN -- WE CAN PICK AND CHOOSE EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT FIRM TO DO.

AND, AGAIN, WE CAN REDUCE THAT -- THAT -- WE CAN REDUCE THAT COST DOWN. SOME I AM OKAY WITH GOING BACK TO ALL FIVE OF THEM SAND SAYING, HEY, WHERE -- YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD DECIDE BEFORE WE GO BACK TO THEM EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO. AND I THINK THAT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO PICK WHICH ONE WE WANT WHEN THEY COME BACK FOR

THAT COST. >>MAYOR BEAN: UNDERSTOOD.

ANY OTHER TOPICS ON THAT. VICE-MAYOR STURG,S.

WHAT SHOULD THE SEARCH FIRM BE DO

DOING. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: HE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. WE NEED VETTING.

WE NEED WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEND OUT, LIKE OUR CRITERIA.

AND JUST A SOUND BODY. THAT'S WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR.

I DON'T NEED FOR THEM TO GIVE US THEIR PERSONAL PICK OF WHAT THEY WANT AND WHERE THEY THINK THIS GUY IS BEST.

I THINK IF YOU GET THE VETTING, THE BACKGROUND CHECK, THE BUSINESS LEADERSHIP SKILLS, HOW THEY RANK THEM.

BECAUSE THERE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FERNANDINA WILL BE FINE; HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK WE NEED A FULL-SCALE SEARCH FIRM TO DO THE WHOLE JOB AND SEND US EIGHT PEOPLE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO DISSECT. THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.

>>MAYOR BEAN: CORRECT. OKAY.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND MISS NIECE.

>> MAYOR, IF YOU TONIGHT MIND. I WANTED TO COMMENT AND I REVIEWED THE PROPOSALS AS WELL. I KNOW ONE IS A PROPOSALS DID INCLUDE SOMEWHAT OF AN A LA CARTE TYPE PROPOSAL.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE -- YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IS -- DO YOU WANT THEM TO JUST DO RECRUITMENT, VETTING, YOU KNOW, SENDING THE INFORMATION OUT TO CANDIDATES THAT THEY CURRENTLY WORK WITH. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER UP.

>>MAYOR BEAN: ABSOLUTELY. CERTAINLY A GOOD OPTION THAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING RIGHT NOW. THAT YOU WOULD USE ALREADY THIS

BID THAT YOU HAVE. >> CORRECT, STR, STRATEGIC GOVERNMENT RESOURCES. THEY DID BREAK DOWN IN THEIR CHOICES DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE

RECRUITMENT PROCESS. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU FOR THAT, MISS NIECE. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

COMMISSIONER ANTUN. >>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: PIGG PIGGYBACKING, I DON'T FEEL AWESOME ABOUT IT, BUT GO TO THE A LA CARTE. ONE IS A NEEDS ANALYSIS AND INFORMATION GATHERING. PHASE TWO RECRUITING, SCREENING AND COORDINATION. PHASE FIVE NEGOTIATION AND WARRANTY. SO THE WARRANTY ONE FOR ME IS KIND OF IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR AN ASSOCIATE CHIROPRACTOR. WE HAD TO PAY RETAINER FEE.

IF YOU DIDN'T RETAIN, THEY GO BACK TO WORK FOR YOU.

WE CHOP SERVICES, ARE THEY GOING TO HONOR A WARRANTY.

I REALLY HAVE A QUESTION IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GO THE ROUTE OF A LA CARTE. WHAT ARE THE IMPORTANT NUTS AND BOLTS AND WHAT CAN WE AFFORD TO DROP.

>>MAYOR BEAN: UNDERSTOOD. THE WAY -- THE IMPORTANT PARTS TO ME. AND COMMISSIONER -- DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST. THE IMPORTANT PARTS THAT I AM SEEING. WE -- I CERTAINLY THINK THAT THE RECRUITMENT OPTION IS A GOOD THING WE NEED TO LOOK INTO.

AND THE VETTING ON TOP OF THAT. THE WAY I SEE IT IS THE POINT OF OUR SEARCH COMMITTEE IS TO LOOK AT THIS LIST OF CANDIDATES.

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THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THIS LIST AND BE THE ONES NARROWING IT DOWN, THE LIST OF CANDIDATES AND COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE WITH THE NARROWED-DOWN LIST. WITH THAT NARROWED-DOWN LIST, ANOTHER INTERVIEW. ANOTHER ROUND AND GIVE YOU THE TOP THREE IS OUR SEARCH COMMITTEE.

SO THERE WILL BE A LONG LIST OF CANDIDATES.

THE SEARCH COMMITTEE WILL GET THEM AND THROUGH A PROCESS THEY ARE DETERMINING NARROW THAT DOWN TO THE TOP THREE THEY CAN LOOK INTO. IT WOULD BE MULTIPLE PHASES BUT THAT WILL BE ALL BY OUR INHOUSE SEARCH COMMITTEE APPOINTED BY US AND SOMETHING IMPORTANT. IS THAT SOMETHING -- AND WE CAN USE THE -- WE CAN USE A -- A -- A BID THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AS RECOMMENDED BY OUR -- OUR CITY HR MANAGER.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? VICE-MAYOR STURGES.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WILL TAKE THOSE THREE APPROXIMATELY COLIN BENGER AND -- AND SEND IT OUT AND COME BACK TO THE ANSWER AND PULL THE

TRIGGER. >>MAYOR BEAN: THE WAIT I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT THE SEARCH FIRM JUST RECOMMENDED BY OUR HR REP WILL CURRENTLY DO THAT OPTION.

THEY WILL GIVE YOU US -- THEY WILL DO THAT TO THE.

PULL THAT TRIGGER TONIGHT. SGR.

SO WE WILL GO WITH THAT FIRM IS WHAT I AM THINKING AND DO THE TOP THREE. THAT AMENABLE TO THE GROUP?

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

WHAT IS IT YOU AR GOING TOO HAVE THIS COMPANY DO? WHAT THIS COMPANY DOES, THEY RECRUIT PEOPLE.

THEY VET THEM. THEY GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS. THIS IS WHAT THE WHOLE PROCESS.

YOU ARE SAVING $10,000. IS THIS ABOUT $10,000 OR ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE? $10,000, I THINK THAT IS PENNY WISE AND POUND FOOLISH. I HAVE NO IDEA -- IF I WAS LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION, I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU WANTED ME TO DO. IF I LISTENED TO THIS.

I HAVE NO IDEA. SO WHAT IS IT YOU WANT THEM TO DO? TELL ME, A, B, C, AND D, WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO. TO YOUR POINT, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GUARANTEE ANYTHING IF DOING PART OF THE DEAL.

THE IMPORTANT PART TO MAKE SURE WE DECENT GET INTO LEGAL TROUBLE AND DOESN'T WORK OUT THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER GO AT IT.

AND THEY ALL GUARANTEE IT. WHAT IS IT YOU WANT THIS TAMPA TO DO SPECIFICALLY, A, B, C, D SO A FOURTH GRADER UNDERSTAND THIS IS THEIR JOB. WHAT IS IT -- I WOULD LIKE TO

HEAR WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT. >>MAYOR BEAN: WE NEED TO EXPLAIN IT FOR A FOURTH GRADER OR COMMISSIONER ROSS UNDERSTANDS IT. MY FRIENDS, WHAT WE HAVE GOT.

WE EXPLAINED TODAY. THE SEARCH COMMITTEE WILL HELP WERE WITH THE RECRUITMENT. WILL THEN VET THOSE RECRUITS.

AND WILL PROVIDE THAT LIST FOR OUR SEARCH COMMITTEE TO THEN CHEW ON. AND THAT IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN THERE. NOW VICE-MAYOR STURGES.

YOU HAVE A COMMENT. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: MY COMMENT TO MAKE A MOTION TO PROVIDE SGR TO PROVIDE THESE THREE SERVICES.

THAT IS MY MOTION. >>MAYOR BEAN: THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. COMMISSIONER AYESCUE.

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: MAYOR, YOU SUMMED UP.

HIRE THE SEARCH TERM TO DO THOSE ITEMS AND THE SEARCH COMMITTEE WILL ESSENTIALLY BE A LARGE PART OF THIS PROCESS IN GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING. SO I UNDERSTAND AS YOU AND THE

VICE-MAYOR DO FEV. >>MAYOR BEAN: SEEMS LIKE WHAT WE

AGREED TO WITH THE HYBRID. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: COULD YOU.

BECAUSE I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING. TELL KNEE WHAT THE THREE THINGS ARE? DON'T SHAKE YOUR HEAD.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THREE THINGS ARE.

SO TELL ME WHAT THE THREE THINGS ARE THIS COMPANY IS GOING TO DO.

ONE, TWO, THREE. >>MAYOR BEAN: COMMISSIONER ROSS

-- DO WE HAVE A SECOND. >> I SECONDED.

>>MAYOR BEAN: A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THAT MOTION.

GO TO COMMISSIONER AYESCUE, I BELIEVE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT

THAT. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: I THINK WE SAID IT MULTIPLE TIMES. VICE-MAYOR STURGES AND THE MAYOR. WE ARE LOOKING TO ASSIST IN RECRUITING, VETTING, AND THEN PROVIDE THE LIST.

WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR THEM TO DO ANY OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT

WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH IT. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: ASSIST.

WHO ARE THEY GOING TO ASSIST? ASSIST MEANS SOMEBODY ELSE IS DOING THE WORK AND YOU ARE GOING TO HELP THEM.

WHO IS GOING TO ASSIST. >> THE SEARCH COMMITTEE.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: THE SEARCH COMMITTEE WILL DO A RECRUITMENT

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DRIVE. >>MAYOR BEAN: LET ME JUMP IN A BIT. KEEP IN MIND, A LA CARTING THE TOP THREE OPTIONS. FIRST THREE TASKS WILL BE DONE BY THE SEARCH FIRM. THAT IS THE RECRUITMENT, OF THE VETTING, AND PROVIDING THIS LIST TO OUR SEARCH FIRM -- OUR -- EXCUSE ME THE SEARCH FIRM WILL PROVIDE THE LIST TO OUR SEARCH COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE WILL THEN GET THIS LIST. THAT IS THE LEGWORK AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING THIS TERM TO DO. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING.

THOSE FIRST THREE STEPS OF THE PROCESS AND COMMITTEE THAT WILL DO THAT. THEY WILL VET, RECRUIT, AND PROVIDE THAT LIST TO OUR CITIZENS COMMITTEE WHICH WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT. SO I BELIEVE THAT ANSWERS ALL

THE QUESTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: NOPE BUT --

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: LOOKING AT THE COLIN BENIGER.

THOSE ARE THE MOST EXPENSIVE THREE STEPS.

SAVING $2500 AND AT THAT OFF THE SCREENING AND COORDINATION AND DISREGARD THE WARRANTY. I THINK THAT IS A VERY -- STEPPING OVER A DOLLAR TO MAKE A PENNY KIND OF THING.

THAT IS MY OPINION. >>MAYOR BEAN: COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHO IS IN CHARGE. I AM DUMBER THAN PLANK, OKAY.

AND I KNOW YOU ARE ROLLING YOUR EYES, AND THAT'S EVEN IF.

BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THIS PROCESS.

I MEAN, YOU SAID ASSIST. THEY ARE GOING TO RECRUIT.

AND ONCE WE HAVE THIS LIST, WHO IS GOING TO BRING ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE? WHO IS GOING TO COORDINATE THAT? WHO WILL MAKE ALL THESE ARRANGEMENTS? WHO ARE GOING TO DO THIS. WE ARE HIRING SOMEONE TO RUN THE SEARCH AND THEN GO TO THE COMMITTEE AND THEY -- THE COMMITTEE -- THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE WILL MAKE TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE.

DO ALL THESE THINGS THAT SEARCH -- THAT THIS COMPANY IS GOING TO DO? I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.

BUT IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO

DO. >>MAYOR BEAN: ALL RIGHT.

THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS THAT WE WILL HIRE A SEARCH FIRM TO DO THE FIRST THREE STEPS. THE DELIVERABLE OF THE SEARCH TERM PROVIDE A BIG LIST TO OUR CITIZENS COMMITTEE.

OUR CITIZENS COMMITTEE WILL THEN NARROW IT DOWN TO A FINAL TWO OR THREE TO BRING US TO FOR A FINAL INTERRULING IS.

ALL RIGHT. TAMMY BACH.

>> ARE YOU ASKING FOR MYSELF OR MR. FOXWORTH OR MISS MADSEN AND HR TO CONTACT SGR AND ASK THEM FOR A NEW PRICE?

>>MAYOR BEAN: AS I AM INFORMED, THAT THEY WILL ENABLE US TO USE THE FIRST THREE STEPS OF THE KUFR CURRENT PRICING.

PART OF THE MOTION TO REACH OUT TO THE FIRM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE MOVING WITH THEM ON THE FIRST THREE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT IS THE MOTION.

THERE IS A LIGHT ON. I'M NOT SURE WHOSE LIGHT.

ONE IS NOT LABELED ANYBODY? IS THAT -- ANYBODY? OKAY.

I WILL -- NO ONE HAS THEIR LIGHT

ON. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: I HAVE LIGHT ON. I WILL MAKE ONE LAST COMMENT.

THING IS LUDICROUS, THIS WHOLE SYSTEM.

MY WIFE TOLD ME TO BE NICE TONIGHT.

AND I AM LOSING IT. GENTLEMEN, THIS IS ONE OF THE IMPORTANT -- MOST ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS TO MAKE AS COMMISSION. YOU ARE HIRING A PERSON TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITY AND WE BASICALLY SAID AND I AM PARAPHRASING IT. WE ARE GOING TO GIVE ALL RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE COMMITTEE OF FIVE PEOPLE.

THEY WILL DO ALL THE WORK. THEY WILL BRING THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE HERE. WE DON'T KNOW HOW.

AND WE ARE GOING TO TALK TO THEM.

NOBODY IS COORDINATING ALL THAT. WEAPON DON'T KNOW WHO.

AND THAT IS HOW WE WILL GET A CITY MANAGER.

IF I WAS WATCHING THIS. AND BELIEVE ME THEY WILL THIS, NEB WHO WANTS TO TAKE THIS JOB SERIOUSLY.

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO COME HERE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>>MAYOR BEAN: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

VICE-MAYOR STURGES. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: CALL THE

VOTE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

CARIBBEAN ONE LAST REQUEST TO SPEAK RIGHT BEFORE WE CALL THE VO VOTE.

>> APRIL BOGEL, 319 SOUTH 5TH STREET.

SO, COMMISSIONER ANTUN MADE AN EXCELLENT POINT AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE GOING THIS ROUTE TO SAVE $2500.

IF THREE MOST EXPENSIVE THINGS IN THE PROPOSAL ARE WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO BUY. AND YOU ARE GOING TO SHAVE OFF THE HARD LABOR OF GETTING ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND WARRANTY -- THE WARRANTY ASSOCIATED WITH A SOLID, YOU KNOW, HIRE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT 2500 HAS TO DO -- I DON'T THINK IT IS ABOUT THE MONEY ANYMORE. PING IT IS ABOUT -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT. WHAT OTHER AGENDA IS HERE THAT YOU WILL NOT HIRE A COMPETENT SEARCH FIRM TO HAND THIS VERY

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NOT ABOUT THE MONEY, OKAY. YOU NEED A SEARCH TERM.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POSITION. COME ON.

STAND UP. BE PROFESSIONALS.

DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR BEAN: ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: YES. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: NO. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: NO.

>>MAYOR BEAN: YES. THAT PASSES 3-2.

WE WILL HEAD ON DOWN THE LINE. 7.5 FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF

[7.4 CITY SAFETY INITIATIVE - FREE SWIM LESSONS - RESOLUTION 2023-51 ESTABLISHING A “CITY SAFETY INITIATIVE” TO PROVIDE FREE SWIM LESSONS TO ELIGIBLE CITY RESIDENT CHILDREN; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Establishes a “City Safety Initiative” to provide free swim lessons to resident children for both the Beginner and Advanced Beginner levels. The benefit expires after successful completion of the Advanced Beginner level.]

FREE SWIMMING LESSONS. KATHERINE ROSSI TO THE PODIUM TO

PRESENT. >> GOOD EVENING, KATH RE REHN BROSI, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, THANK YOU.

TONIGHT WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL OF A NEW CITY SAFETY INITIATIVE TO PROVIDE FREE SWIMMING LESSONS TO RESIDENT CHILDREN AND GET THEM TO A WATER SAFE LEVEL. AS YOU KNOW WE ARE SURROUNDED BY WATER. WE HAVE SWIMMING POOLS EVERYWHERE. PROVIDING ACCESS TO LEARN HOW TO BE WATER SAFE IS JUST ONE WAY TO HELP SAFEGUARD OUR CHILDREN.

THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WILL NOT ONLY LIKE TO TEACH CHILDREN HOW TO SWIM BUT EDUCATE THEM AND ALSO EDUCATE THEIR PARENTS AND GUARDIANS ON HOW TO BE SAFE IN AND AROUND THE WATER. SO WE WILL PROVIDE SWIM TEST IT IS THE SKILL LEVEL OF THE CHILD IS NOT ONLY IN.

THOSE CHILDREN WHO PASS WHAT WE ARE CALLING THE ADVANCED BEGINNER OR SEA TURTLE LEVEL, THEY WILL BE GIVEN A SPECIAL CERTIFICATE SHOWING THEY ARE NOW DEEMED WATER SAFE.

THE GROSS REVENUES FROM THE PAST TWO YEARS OF SWIM LESSONS TAKEN BY CITY RESIDENT CHILDREN HAVE BEEN ABOUT $5,000 FOR THE TWO YEARS COMBINED. THIS RESOLUTION WILL LIKELY DECREASE THE REVENUE. BUT WE ARE HOPING THAT IT WILL SPARK INTEREST IN CONTINUING WITH SWIM LESSONS AND REGISTERING FOR SUBSEQUENT LEVELS.

WE ARE HOPING THAT MORE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES WILL BE -- WILL FEEL BETTER AROUND WATER IF THEY ARE NOT NOW.

AND VISIT OUR AQUATIC FACILITIES AS WELL.

THIS WILL AN BE A OPTION IS OF THE COST PROVIDING THESE SWIM LESSONS. IF APPROVED, WE WILL ADJUST THE CURRENT RESIDENT REGISTRATION FOR SWIM LESSONS FOR THE CURRENT SPRING SEASON STARTED TODAY. 28 CHILDREN ENROLLED IN CLASSES STARTING TODAY. I WILL ALSO WORK MARY HAMBURG TO PROVIDE A VERY ROBUST MARKETING STRATEGY TO THAT THE RESIDENTS KNOW IS NEW PERK FOR THEM. IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY SAFETY INITIATIVE BECOME WELL KNOWN FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, NOT ONLY FOR THE SWIM LESSON ASPECT BUT FOR THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING AS WELL WHICH IS EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT. WE DO HAVE WITH US TONIGHT THE CACHE CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE WHICH IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS NEW CITY INITIATIVE.

AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

>>MAYOR BEAN: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS KATHERINE BROSI.

VICE-MAYOR. IF.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: HEY, KATHERINE.

THIS SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING VERY AWESOME IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR YOU TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HHELP EVERYBODY LEARN WITH FREE SWIM LESSONS. AND THIS WILL SPAWN DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES OR WILL -- WILL CREATE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES WITH OUR AQUATICS PROGRAM.

IF MORE PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO SWIM AND BE ACTIVE AND MORE PEOPLE

CAN ENJOY OUR FACILITIES. >> YES.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PROGRAM.

I APPROVE. >>MAYOR BEAN: THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE IT. >>MAYOR BEAN: A MOTION AND

SECOND. >> SECOND.

>>MAYOR BEAN: ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: THING IS A WONDERFUL PROGRAM.

I THINK TEACHING KIDS TO SWIM AND NOT CHARGING THEM IS A GREAT CITY SERVICE. I THINK IT IS FANTASTIC.

I -- I WENT TO THE CANYMCA WHEN I WAS A KID AND LEARNED HOW TO SWIM. I CAN'T AGREE WITH THIS MORE AND I WILL VOTE FOR IT. BUT I AM GOING TO POINT SOMETHING OUT. FOUR OF YOU RAN -- FOUR RAN ON LIMITING GOVERNMENT. THIS IS NOT LIMITING GOVERNMENT, WE ARE EXPANDING GOVERNMENT. WE RAN ON LOWERING TAXES.

THIS IS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE. REDUCE GOVERNMENT SPENDING.

WE ARE NOW GOING TO SPEND MORE MONEY.

INCREASE -- THIS IS INCREASING A CITY SERVICE.

INCREASING CITY SPENDING AND NOT DECREASING SPENDING ANYWHERE

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NO WAY TO FUND IT. LIGHTS ON CITRONA, SNIPED SOMEWHERE ELSE. SOCCER FIELD ON YBOR ALVAREZ.

NOW FREE SWIM LESSONS. I HEARTEDLY APPROVE OF FREE SWIM LESSONS. I HEARTEDLY AGREE WITH GOVERNMENT DOING THIS. WITHOUT DECREASING SPENDING SOMEWHERE ELSE OR RAISING GUYS OR RAISING TAXES WE CAN NOT SUSTAIN THIS. IT IS NOT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

AND I WILL VOTE FOR IT. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSS. THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK.

PEOPLE DO NOT MIND PAYING TAXES AS LONG AS IT IS GOING TO SOMETHING THAT THEY CARE ABOUT AND THEY WANT TO SEE.

AND THIS IS FREE SWIM LESSONS. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

LET'S CALL THE VOTE. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: YES. >>MAYOR BEAN: YES.

[7.5 FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE (FDOS) GRANT APPLICATION SUPPORT - AMELIA ISLAND-FERNANDINA RESTORATION FOUNDATION - RESOLUTION 2023-52 AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE OF A CITY LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR A GRANT APPLICATION TO BE SUBMITTED BY THE AMELIA ISLAND-FERNANDINA RESTORATION FOUNDATION FOR FUNDING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PARCELS OF BOSQUE BELLO CEMETERY LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes the issuance of a City letter of support to the Florida Department of State, Division of Historical Resources, for a grant application submitted by the Amelia Island-Fernandina Restoration Foundation for the benefit of Bosque Bello cemetery]

FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE FDOS APPLICATION OF SUPPORT.

AND REAL QUICK. I APOLOGIZE.

IS TOM IN THE ROOM. TOM, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON THAT LAST ONE. IT DID PASS.

>> YOU PASS IT. IT'S FINE.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, MY FRIEND.

HEY, SORRY WE MISSED YOU. MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT SPEAKER

CERTAINLY MAKES IT ON THE LIST. >> I APPRECIATE IT, MR. MAYOR.

>>MAYOR BEAN: WE APPRECIATE YOU, 7.5, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE GRANT APPLICATION FOR AMELIA ISLAND FERNANDINA RESTORATION

FOUNDATION. >> THIS IS THE FERNANDINA BEACH.

>>LESLIE:TATION FOUNDATION LOOK CAN FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO THE CITY TO PLACE BOSQUE BELLO ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER.

NO COST TO THE CITY, BUT THEY ARE JUST ASKING FOR OUR SUPPORT.

>>MAYOR BEAN: WE INVITE A SPEAKER BACK TO THE PODIUM.

>> SUSAN SPEAKER, 205 LIGHTHOUSE CIRCLE.

FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA. GOOD EVENING MAYOR BEAN, VICE-MAYOR STURGES AND COMMISSIONERS.

I AM SPEAKING ON THE FERNANDINA BEACH BEACH RESTORATION FOUNDATION. AN ORGANIZATION INCORPORATED 50 YEARS AGO. DURING THE 50 YEARS, WE HAVE JOINED FORCES WITH THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, NASSAU COUNTY, THE TOUR EM AND DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND MANY NONPROFITS AS WE WORK TOGETHER TO BRING OUR COMMUNITY INCREDIBLE GIFTS OF VIBRANT HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.

A RESTORED COUNTY COURTHOUSE. AND A RESTORED AND ENHANCED TRAIN DEPOT. OUR FOCUS IS ON BOSQUE BELLO.

OUR CITY CEMETERY ESTABLISHED IN 1798.

THE RESTORATION FOUNDATION PLANS TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THIS HISTORIC ASSET.

WE ARE REQUESTING A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE FOR A $50,000 STATE GRANT TO SERVE THE CEMETERY.

A PORTION OF THE ANCIENT CEMETERY LOCATED WEST OF MAGNOLIA STREET IS LISTED ON THE NATIONAL RREGISTRY OF HISTORIC PLACES. WE WE SHALL TO ADD MORE EXCEPTIONS OF THE ANCIENT CEMETERY TO THE NATIONAL REGISTRY INCLUDING THE AREA WHERE 19 CATHOLIC SISTERS OF SISTERS OF SAINT JOSEPHS ARE BURIED TWO OF THEM DIED FROM YELLOW FEVER AFTER CARING FOR OTHERS DURING THE 1877 EPIDEMIC.

BY ADDING MORE SECTIONS TO THE NATIONAL REGISTRY, WE INCREASE OUR CHANCES OF OBTAINING FEDERAL GRANTS.

THOSE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT, WENDY LANGLEY, LORELEI JACOBS AND ADAM KAUFMAN APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND SUPPORT AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT.

THANK YOU. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

DO I HEAR A MOTION? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. I THINK THIS IS AN AWESOME IDEA AND ANY RESTORATION DWOEK IN -- REGS RATION THAT WE CAN DO IN OUR CITY ESPECIALLY OUR CEMETERIESES.

>> SECOND. CARIBBEAN MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD. CALL THE VOTE.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: YES. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: YES. >>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES.

>>MAYOR BEAN: YES. THAT PASSES 5-0.

[7.6 CODE ENFORCEMENT FINE REDUCTION REQUEST - 505 SOUTH 17TH ST SOUTHLAND TRUST – ASILA HOLDINGS LLC TRUSTEE - RESOLUTION 2023-53 REQUESTING A REDUCTION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT FINES FOR 505 SOUTH 17TH ST SOUTHLAND TRUST - ASILA HOLDINGS LLC TRUSTEE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS AT 505 SOUTH 17TH STREET CONTINGENT UPON FULL PAYMENT OF REDUCED AMOUNT NO LATER THAN APRIL 28, 2023; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes a reduction of fines and a satisfaction of lien be executed, specifically conditioned upon 505 South 17th St Southland Trust – Asila Holdings LLC Trustee paying the reduced fines and all administrative fees to the City on or before April 28, 2023.]

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SOUTHLAND TRUST. ASILA HOLDINGS LCC TRUSTEE.

>> SPILL TAKE THIS ONE. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A REDUCTION. THE CITY HAS AN ORDER NANCE THAT SOMEBODY CAN COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND REQUEST FINANCE AND OR GUYS. IN THIS CASE, WE RECEIVED A REQUEST FOR REDUCTION IN GETTING TO THE -- THEY SAY -- IT WAS SUBMITTED ON MARCH 17, 2023. I'M NOT SURE IT SAYS OTHER THAN TO REDUCE IT TO ZERO WHAT THE SPECIFIC REQUEST IS.

BUT THE PROPERTY WAS IN POOR CONDITION.

THE PROPERTY WAS -- DID NEED REPAIRS.

AND PRIOR TO THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER WHO PURCHASED THIS AT A FORECLOSURE SALE, THE CITY, MY OFFICE AND THE CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE WAS WORKING ON THIS PROPERTY DUE TO COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS. THERE WERE COMPLAINTS -- THERE WAS OVERGROWTH AND VEGETATION. THERE WAS STORAGE OF THINGS OUTSIDE FROM A CARPORT AND RATS AND MICE AND ALL THAT.

THE CITY FOLLOWED THIS. THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD HEARD IT AND DID IT MORE THAN ONCE AND THE RECENT OWNER WAS CALLED TOLL A CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARING AND ASKED IF THEY COULD A VIRTUALLY THEN DID NOT A. SO THEY DID NOT A.

AND ON BEHALF OF STAFF, PARTICULARLY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF, THEY ARE RECOMMENDING THAT ALL THE FINES AND GUYS STAY IN PLACE. THIS PROPERTY FOR YEARS WAS IN DISREPAIR. AND FINALLY IT IS -- AND IT IS NOT OWNED BY AN INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT WHO IS RESIDING THERE.

IT IS OWNED BY AN INVESTOR. THERE IS NOBODY RESIDING AT THE

PROPERTY IS NOW. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU.

I HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS FROM MR. BRIAN CACORUM.

>> HIS NAME IS ON APPLICATION OF REDUCTION.

>>MAYOR BEAN: START WITH YOUR NAME.

>> 752 BLANDING BOULEVARD. 505 17TH STREET.

WE BOUGHT THIS AS A TAX DEED SALE OVER TWO YEARS AGO.

IT WAS IN VERY POOR CONDITION. LIKE SHE SAID, RATS, MICE.

A HOARDING SITUATION. THE ROOF HAD COLLAPSED IN ON PART OF THE HOME. TOOK US A WHILE TO CLEAR THE TITLE BECAUSE A LOT OF ERRORS. A LOT OF SPIDER WEBS IN THE TITLE. THE HOUSE WAS TARPED.

WE WORKED WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND TRYING TO GET SOME OF THOSE FINES OFF BECAUSE THEY WERE ON THERE BEFORE WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE. AFTER WE GOT THE HOUSE, WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE ROOF. IT NEEDED MORE REPAIRS THAN WE THOUGHT. WE HAD TO LEAVE THE TARP ON.

WE WERE NOT REALLY THEY THAT WE WERE HAVING -- BEING FINED MORE.

THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION ON US, NOT SUPPLIES THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH ALL THE PLANS AND PERMITS.

WHEN WE WENT -- PULLED ALL THE PERMITS, WE GOT APPROVAL FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO GO AHEAD.

WE WENT AHEAD AND WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT FIXED EVERYTHING AND THE HOME IS IN FANTASTIC CONDITION.

WE SPENT OVER $175,000 ON THE HOUSE.

AND IT IS A VERY NICE HOUSE NOW IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE DID NOTHING BUT IMPROVE THE PROPERTY VALUES IN THAT AREA. TAMPA TOOK A WHILE BECAUSE IT WAS A LOT OF WORK. AND I DO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST TO ENCOURAGE INVESTORS TO COME AND BUY THESE HOUSES.

FIX THEM UP THE WAY WE DID. RESELL THEM.

AND IMPROVE THE PROPERTY VALUES. WITHOUT REDUCING THESE FINES, IT DOESN'T MAKE US VIABLE FOR US TO DO IT.

ANY QUESTIONS? >>MAYOR BEAN: ANY QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> BY THE WAY, MR. GEORGE CAN WELLS FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT IS SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE AND

AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. >>MAYOR BEAN: MR. ANTUN.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: UPON ASKING HOW IT CAME TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS IT DID. IT WAS AN EXTENDED TIME NO RESPONSE OF THE INITIAL MENTIONS OF COATED ENFORCEMENT, IS THAT

TRUE IN. >> SOME OF WHAT HAPPENED THE MAIL -- THE NOTICES WERE GOING TO THE ASILA HOLDINGS PEOPLE AND NOT TRICKLING DOWN TO ME. AND ROBIN, WHO IS PART OF THE TRUST, WAS IN TOUCH WITH GEORGE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

HE DID NOT REALIZE THAT PULLING THE PERMITS -- BECAUSE WE HAD TO PULL A ROOF, RAFTER, TEAMING, PLUMBING, YOU NAME IT, WE HAD TO PULL IT. AND THEN WE THIS GOT INTO THE ROOF, IT WAS LAY LOT MORE AND THE TARP STAYED ON FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET A ARCHITECT

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AND WHILE I WAS TALKING TO GEORGE, WE WERE IN THE IPRESSION WE WERE IN CONTACT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND DOING WHAT WE COULD TO KEEP THE PROPERTY AT THE BEST WE COULD.

THE ROOF ON AS FAST AS WE COULD WHICH TOOK A LONG TIME AND WE GOT THE ROOF ON, CLEANED UP THE YARD, IT WAS EIGHT, NINE DUMPSTER FULL OF STUFF IN THE GARAGE AND THE HOUSE WE HAD TO REMOVE. IT WAS A VERY, VERY ROUGH HOUSE.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: BECAUSE MY CONCERN OF SOMEBODY WHO PERHAPS A NEIGHBORING RESIDENT. IF I WAS SITTING NEXT TO A HOUSE THAT HAD RAT, DEBRIS AND THERE WAS NO EFFORT TO MAKE THAT AN IMPROVEMENT AND THIS IS FOR A PROFIT --

>> I UNDERSTAND. LET'S BE CLEAR THOUGH.

WE CLEENLDZ ALL THAT UP FIRST. THESE OTHER FINES CAME WHEN WE DIDN'T SUPPLY CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH THE REACHING PLANS AND ALL THAT STUFF. WE CLEANED UP THE RATS, THE AZITHROMYCIN, THE JUNK, THE CARS, THE HOARDING.

WE DID THAT VERY QUICK. WE GOT ONE OTHER COMPLIANCE NOTICE FOR THE GRASS, BECAUSE THE LANDSCAPER WASN'T CUTTING IT

LIKE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO. >>MAYOR BEAN: VICE-

VICE-MAYOR STURGES. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: THANK YOU, MAYOR POP HE QUESTION FOR GEORGE.

MR. WELLS. US HEARING THAT CASE, I WAS PREVIOUSLY ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD FOR YEARS.

WHEN THE GENTLEMAN BOUGHT IT, WHAT WERE THE FINES A THAT THE POINT AND ADDITIONAL FINES AFTER THAT.

>> GEORGE WELLS, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

WE STARTED THE CASE OVER WITH THE NEW OWNER.

BECAUSE WE HAD TWO PREVIOUS OWNER CHANGES.

MR. KENNEDY AND THEN FANNY MAY EVENTUALLY TOOK THAT OVER.

>> SORRY, IF I COULD -- >> WE STARTED THE FINE PROCESS.

WE OPENED THE NEW CASE. STARTED FROM GROUND ZERO STURNLZ

STURNLZ BRAND-NEW CASE? >> BRAND-NEW CASE.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: THOSE FINES TOTALLED TO WHAT?

>> 62 NOW, 822347. A AMOUNT IS ADMINISTRATIVE GUYS.

$50 A DAY FOR THE FIRST 30 DAYS. AND THEN THE FINE ESCALATED UP TO $100 PER DAY THEREAFTER UNTIL -- UNTIL IT WAS BROUGHT IN

COMPLIANCE. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: WHEN THAT'S BROUGHT IN COMPLIANCE. HOW LONG? >I THINK IT WAS JUNE -- MUST HAVE BEEN JUNE 29 OF 2022.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: ROUGHLY HOW MANY DAYS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? I KNOW I AM PUTTING ON THE SPOT.

THERE IS A REASON I AM DOING THAT.

>> WELL, THE FINE STARTED SEPTEMBER OF 2020.

AND THEN IT ENDED JUNE 29, 2022. STURGES 422 DAYS OUT OF

COMPLIANCE BASICALLY? >> I ADDED IT UP, 422.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: THAT WHAT IT IS? OKAY. AT 50 A DAY, IF WE HAD IT AT THE

BARE MINIMUM, $21,100. >> $50 A DAY FOR THE FIRST 30

DAY. >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: NO.

I'M DOING AD-LIBBING. I AGREE.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BURDEN THIS GENTLEMAN.

HOWEVER, THE COMMUNICATION IS AN ISSUE.

IF WE SEND MULTIPLE NOTICES TO THE OWNER OF RECORD, AND HE DIDN'T COMPLY, I CAN EASILY REDUCE THE FINE TO $25,000 OR $28,000 IF I MADE A MOTION AND CALL IT A DAY.

I DON'T THINK OUR CITY WOULD -- IS GOING TO BENEFIT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BY ANY MORE GUYS OFFER FINES FROM A HOMEOWNER IF IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE. AND THIS WILL GIVE OUR BARE MINIMUM OF $50 A DAY. NOT TO SAY I AM THE ONE RULING THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. BUT I THINK IT IS A FAIR APPROACH. HE SHOULD HAVE TOOK SOME KIND OF RESPONSIBILITY AS AN OWNER. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

AND THAT IS JUST MY THOUGHTS. WHAT DO YOU THINK, GEORGE.

>> POINT OF NOTICE, WE DID RECEIVE A RETURN RIGHT CARD FROM THE OWN WE ARE THE OWNER SIGNATURE ON IT.

AND THEY WERE WELL AWARE OF WHEN THE HEARING WAS.

THE FINES DIDN'T START UNTIL 30 DAYS AFTER THAT HEARING.

SOME -- I MEAN, THEY WERE WELL AWARE OF WHEN THE MEETING WAS.

I HAVE THE OWNER'S SIGNATURE ON A CERTIFIED RETURN CARD.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: THANK YOU, GEORGE.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU. LET'S GO AHEAD TO GO TO COMMISSIONER ROSS. ROSS LOST TO WAS BOUGHT FOR $35,000 AT A TAX SALE. SEPTEMBER 17, 2019.

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THREE DIFFERENT THINGS. I WENT AND LOOKED AT THE HEARING. I WENT AND LOOKED -- THIS IS NOT A HOMEOWNER. THIS IS AN INVESTOR.

THIS COMPANY GOES OUT AND BUYS TAX SALES.

GOES AND FLIPS THEM. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS.

SO IT IS NOT A HOMEOWNER, A PROFESSIONAL COMPANY THAT SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER AND CAME IN THE COMMUNITY.

BOUGHT THIS AS A TAX SALE. GOODS FOR THEM.

I AM NOT DISPUTING THAT. THEY WAITED 422 DAYS TO GET IT INTO COMPLIANCE AND WHAT REALLY CONCERNED ME IS THAT ON THEIR APPLICATION, ON PEND 2, IT SAID, DID YOU OR A REPRESENTATIVE A AT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARING. NO.

NEXT QUESTION, IF NOT, PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOU DID NOT A.

THIS IS VITAMIN ON THE APPLICATION WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A CERTIFIED APPLICATION OR NOT.

LET'S SEE -- ANYHOW, SAID IS IT NOT KNOW ABOUT IT.

WELL, IF YOU LISTEN TO THE HEARING TAPE, YOU KNEW THEY HAD A CERTIFIED LETTER. YOU KNEW THEY KNEW ABOUT IT.

AND AGREED TO SHOW UP ON ZOOM. I HAVE GOON TO -- AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL THE CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS SINCE I HAVE BEEN ELECTED A COMMISSIONER AND THEY BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO WORK WITH PEOPLE. AND TECHNICALLY PEOPLE WHO WORK -- WHO SHOW UP. THEY BEND OVER BACKYARDS.

THEY ARGUED OVER IT -- IT WAS LIKE A HALF HOUR WHETHER HE HOW MUCH AND WHEN AND TO DO IT SO THEY CAN COMPLY WITH THIS.

TO COME IN HERE AND ASK FOR A REDUCTION ON THIS IS, I THINK, INAPPROPRIATE. SO I WILL NOT SUPPORT REDUCING THE FINES AT ALL. AND THAT WALLS OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD IS AWARE OF THIS.

AND WE -- YOU -- I HAVE -- I HAVE VOTED ON THEM TO REPRESENT THE CITY. THIS IS WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED.

THIS IS WHAT THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.

AND THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT A HOMEOWNER WHO WILL LOSE ON THIS.

THIS IS A COMMERCIAL VENTURE AND SHAME ON THEM.

THEY DIDN'T COME IN AND TAKE CARE OF THAT HOUSE.

THIS THEY LEFT IT FOR MONTHS WITH STUFF PILED UP THERE.

MULTIPLE PHONE CALLS HAND TO KEEP GOING BACK TO GET IT.

AND THEN IT WAS THE ROOF THAT WAS THE PROBLEM.

SO I CANNOT SUPPORT REDUCING THE FINES.

>>MAYOR BEAN: VICE-MAYOR, YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: CERTAINLY, I CAN VERY EASILY MAKE THE ANSWER AND CUT THE REDUCTION IN HALF TO $$30,000 AND CALL IT A DAY. I DON'T THINK PERSONAL EASING THIS MAN, WHETHER ELSE A HOMEOWNER OR A BUSINESS OWNER MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE. HE HAS BROUGHT IT INTO COMPLIANCE WITHIN A YEAR. I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE'S HOUSES THAT ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE THAT HAVE BEEN -- YOU KNOW, FOR MULTIPLE TIMES FOR PLENTY OF TIMES.

AND GEORGE DOES A GREAT JOB. THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.

>>MAYOR BEAN: ALL RIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: ONE LOSS COMMENT. CARIBBEAN COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: HE IS NOT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

HE IS AN AGENT. THE OWNER IS A LAW FIRM.

IF YOU GO CONTINUE TO THEIR WEB SITE, THAT IS WHAT THEY DO PROFESSIONALLY. YOU ARE THE AGENT AND HELD

BY ALISA. >> WE ARE NOT A BIG COMPANY.

THIS IS IT NOT SOME BIG COMPANY. ASILA HOLDINGS IS JUST AN ATTORNEY THAT HOLDS THE LEGAL PAPERER WORK.

WE ARE SMALL INVESTORS. WE DON'T MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS YEAR. WE HAVE A SMALL REAL ESTATE COMPANY IN ORANGE PARK AND I AM PART OF THE TRUST.

I AM NOT LISTED THERE, BUT I AM AN AGENT FOR THEM.

ROBIN IS PART OF THE TRUST. SHE WORKED WITH GEORGE.

DO YOU NOT REMEMBER THE COMMENT OR -- CONVERSATIONS WITH ROBIN GOING BACK AND FORTH. WE WERE TRYING GET IT IN COMPLIANCE. WE COULDN'T GET -- WE HAD TO GET ENGINEERING. WITH HE HAD TO PUT TARPS ON IT.

WEAPON COULDN'T DO ANYTHING. WEAPON COULDN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET ALL THESE PERMITS.

THAT WAS A LONG WAITING PERIOD. DURING THE TIME WE HAD A HARD TIME GETTING A CONTRACTOR OUT THERE.

A LOT OF THIS NONCOMPLIANCE IS DUE TO US WORKING ON IT.

WE DID GET THE CAR REMOVED QUICKLY.

WE GOT THE HOARDING REMOVED QUICKLY.

WE GOT ALL THE TRAILERS AND ALL THE JUNK AND DEBRIS, A DUMPSTER FULL REMOVED FROM THE HOUSE QUICKLY.

WHAT TOOK A LONG TIME WAS THE ROOF BEING TARPED.

THAT LOOKS UNSIGHTLY, BUT WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNTIL WE GOT THE PERMITS. WHEN WE GOT THE PERMITS -- I GUESS CONFUSION ON THE ZOOM CALL WITH ROBIN AND FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS. THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY.

THIS IS NOT A HUGE TERM MAKING THOUSAND OF DOLLARS AND MILLIONSFUL DOLLARS OFF THE YEAR.

SMALL PEOPLE. SMALL POTATOES.

BEING THESE HOUSES, FIXING THEM UP.

AND WE DID WHAT WE COULD. MAYBE WE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER, BUT I DON'T THINK FINING US THAT BIG OF A FINE WHEN NOBODY ELSE

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>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, SIR. DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE TABLE? ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? IF.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: I MOVE TO MAINTAIN THE FINES AS ASSESSED BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD THAT THIS COMMISSION ELECTED.

>> SECOND CARIBBEAN A MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER AYESCUI.

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

I HAVE. >>MAYOR BEAN: STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO IMPLEMENT THE FINES.

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: OKAY. >> I WAS GOING TO MAKE MOTION, BUT HE BEAT ME BY ONE SECOND. IT IS ALL RIGHT, IF HE PASSES, IT PASSES. IF IT FAILS, I WILL MAKE MY

MOTION. >>MAYOR BEAN: GO AHEAD AND CALL

THE VOTE THEN. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: NO.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: NO CARIBBEAN AND NO.

THAT FAILS 3-2. VICE-MAYOR STURGES MOTION.

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: >>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: I MAKE A MOTION TO CHARGE HIM $30,000. MAYBE THE GENTLEMAN IS NOT COMPLETELY PERFECT. I BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T BE COMPLETELY PERFECT. I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY BUT JESUS IS COMPLETELY PERFECT. SO $30,000.

MAKE HIM PAY THE FINE OF $30,000 EVEN.

AND THAT IS WHAT I THINK IS A GOOD IDEA.

>>MAYOR BEAN: I WILL HEAR SECOND.

>> I WILL SECOND IT CARIBBEAN MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: YES. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: NO.

>>MAYOR BEAN: YES. THAT PASS 3-2.

[7.7 OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL - IMPACT FEE OPINION - RESOLUTION 2023-54 AUTHORIZING QUALIFIED OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL TO REQUEST AN ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH RELATING TO THE CITY’S NON-UTILITY IMPACT FEES; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Synopsis: Authorizes the City Attorney and City Manager to utilize the services of Theriaque & Spain to request a Florida Attorney General Opinion on the City's non-utility impact fees on behalf of the City.]

OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL. IMPACT FEE OPINION.

$IF I. >> RESOLUTION 2023-54, AUTHORIZING QUALIFIED YOUTH SIDE LEGAL COUNSEL TO REQUEST AN ATTORNEY GENERAL MACHINE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH RELATING TO THE CITY'S NONUTILITY IMPACT GUYS.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

CARIBBEAN MOTION AND SECOND. DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TWO POINTS. THERE IS AN OPEN-ENDED CONTRACT WITH AN ATTORNEY'S FIRM. THEY CAN SPIN THEIR METER ANY WAY THEY WANT. BUT I THINK THAT -- AT LEAST THERE SHOULD BE A DO NOT EXCEED PRICE ON THIS.

NUMBER TWO, THIS IS ONLY -- JUST SO IN IS CLEAR, THIS IS NOT TAKING CARE OF BUILDING GUYS. ALL THIS IS ABOUT IS IMPACT GUYS FOR -- IT IS NOT GOT TO DO WITH BUILDING GUYS WHICH WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL THING THAT WAS ON THIS -- THE MULTIPLE -- THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME AND SMOKE HERE.

SO I -- I THINK TO -- I WOULD -- I WOULD APPROVE THIS, BUT I WILL -- I WILL VOTE TO APPROVE IT, BUT I THINK IT IS A MISTAKE NOT TO PUT TO "DO NOT EXCEED" CLAUSE ON THIS.

>>MAYOR BEAN: COMMIS COMMISSIONER ANTUN.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: MY DISCUSSION WITH CITY STAFF -- I WAS MADE AWARE THAT THE RATE WOULD BE $300, AM I CORRECT MISS BACH, IN AGREE BEGAN -- I WOULD SUPPORT PUTTING A TEN-HOUR

STOP LIMIT ON THAT. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER AYESCUE. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: I WAS GOING TO SAY COMMISSIONER ROSS. A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT -- I AM WILLING TO BE FRIENDS HERE. THAT LIMIT -- I AM OKAY WITH IT.

>>COMMISSIONER ROSS: NOT THAT IT IS NOT FRIENDLY OR NOT FRIENDLY.

IF YOU READ ROBERTS RULE OF ORDER.

ONCE YOU MAKE THE MOTION. IT BECOMES NOT YOUR MOTION ANYMORE AND THE GROUP'S MOTION. YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON THE SECOND.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESTATE YOUR MOTION WITH A DO NOT EXCEED, I WOULD CERTAINLY -- WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY MAYBE.

>>MAYOR BEAN: POINT OF ORDER I THINK WE CAN HAVE A -- I THINK -- INDIVIDUAL BODIES CAN SET THEIR OWN ACCEPTABLES.

I WILL ASK THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY MOTIONS ARE ACCEPTABLE. I WILL GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT

NOW. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: WE HAVE ACCEPTED OUR OWN RULES AND THAT IS NOT ONE OF THE RULES.

IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE RULES, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF MY LIGHT IS ON STILL OR NOT.

I DON'T WANT TO GET UP HERE AFTER A LONG EVENING AND ARGUE ABOUT RULES. I WILL AMENDED MOTION AS I MADE

IT TO SET A CAP AT $6,000. >>MAYOR BEAN: EXCELLENT.

A SECOND ON THAT? >> I MAKE SECOND.

>>MAYOR BEAN: EXCELLENT. A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE

VOTE. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: YES.

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>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: YES. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES. >>MAYOR BEAN: YES.

[8.1 PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE - One appointment.]

8.1, PARKS AND RECREATION. DO I HEAR A MOTION?

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. IT'S -- THE MAN'S NAME.

I TALKED TO HIM. HE SEEMED VERY EXCITED TO BE PART OF THIS. WALDIMOR BORERO.

>>MAYOR BEAN: I HEAR A MOTION. ANY DISCUSSION?

>> SECOND. >>MAYOR BEAN: I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE LIGHT BUT THE BINDER POPPING.

WE ARE GOOD TO GO. I WILL MAKE A COMMENT.

I AM EXCITED HE WILL BE JOINING THE PARKS AND REC BOARD AND HE DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE SKATE PARK.

WITH THAT, CALL THE VOTE. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: YES. >>MAYOR BEAN: YES.

ABOUT PASSES 5-0. CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.

[8.2 ARTS AND CULTURE NASSAU - One appointment.]

ONE APPOINTMENT. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>>MAYOR BEAN: WE NEED A NAME ON THAT.

>> I APOLOGIZE. LAWYER LAURA TEMPLETON.

>>MAYOR BEAN: YES, THAT IS THE REQUEST.

>> SECOND. >>MAYOR BEAN: A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE.

SKU YES. STURNLZ STURGES YES.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: YES.

>>MAYOR BEAN: YES. THAT PASSES 5-0.

[8.3 PUBLIC, EDUCATIONAL, AND GOVERNMENT (PEG) CHANNEL COMMITTEE - One appointment.]

[8.4 PUBLIC, EDUCATIONAL, AND GOVERNMENT (PEG) CHANNEL COMMITTEE - ATTENDANCE - Member Julie Ferreira.]

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THAT. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. SNATCH.

>>MAYOR BEAN: A MOTION AND SECOND TO CONFIRM THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN A -- WE ALL KNOW THIS IS AN ATTENDANCE-BASE RED MOFL FROM A BOARD. A MOTION AND SECOND.

GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: YES.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: NO. >>MAYOR BEAN: NO.

THAT PASSES 3-2. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON DOWN THE LINE. THAT BRINGS US TO NUMBER 9, CITY MANAGER REPORTS. GO AHEAD, MR. MANAGER.

>> NOTHING TO REPORT, SIR. >>MAYOR BEAN: ALL RIGHT, ITEM

[10. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]

10, CITY ATTORNEY REPORT'. >> I HAVE NO REPORT OTHER THAN TO REMIND YOU THAT I E-MAILED QUARTERLY THE LITIGATION REPORT FOR THE THIRD QUARTER. NO CHANGES SINCE LAST QUARTER.

>>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[12. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

WE GO TO CITY CLERK REPORT. >> NO REPORTS.

>>MAYOR BEAN: MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

START WITH COMMISSIONER AYESCUE. >>COMMISSIONER AYESCUE: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO ATTENDS MY DEEPEST TO THE DEES FAMILY. FORMER COMMISSIONER DEES.

SOMETHING HAD ABOUT POPS THEY CALLED HIM.

FOUR YEARS IN THE ARMY AND CAME BACK HOME TO FERNANDINA BEACH AND THEY OPENED UP THE DRIVE-U INN CLEANER IN FRIENDS.

AND A LONG-TIME RESIDENTS CAN REMEMBER THAT WITH MR. DEES' WIFE. SHARON.

I APOLOGIZE. THAT THEY OPENED UP THAT DRY CLEANERS AND AND INTEGRAL PART OF FERNANDINA BEACH FOR A LONG TIME. AND HE ALSO OPENED THE FIRST GUN STORE RIGHT HERE IN FERNANDINA BEACH, EYE BELAND BIG O GUNLESS.

HE IS AN INTEGRAL PART. HE IS SURVIVED BY HIS WIFE SHARON, HIS SON, MIKE, AND HIS WIFE, JANICE.

DAUGHTER MICHELLE. HUSBAND JOHN TAYLOR.

POPS TO TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS. BRELIN AND BRADY AND GREAT GRANDSON CAMDEN. A WONDERFUL FAMILY AND KEEP THEM IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. YOU AND WE HAVE LOST A -- A VERY GOOD HUMAN BEING HERE IN THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH.

AND LASTLY, I WANT TO WISH OUR VICE-MAYOR, DAVID STRUGES, A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY. AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO SAY THE AGE.

THANK YOU. PETITION.

>>MAYOR BEAN: COMMIS COMMISSIONER ANTUN.

>>COMMISSIONER ANTUN: I WILL ECHO THE COMMISSIONER'S CONDOLE LEDGESES AND A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO COMMISSIONER STURGES.

>>MAYOR BEAN: COMMISSIONER ROSS. >>COMMISSIONER ROSS: NO COMMENT.

>>MAYOR BEAN: VICE MAY KNORR I DON'T REMEMBER STURGES.

>>VICE-MAYOR STURGES: I WILL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THE SAME THING. WHEN YOU SAID DALE DEES HAD PASSED AWAY. I REMEMBER HIM V.I.P. VIVIDLY IN

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I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND, YES, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MYSELF. I WILL NOT -- I WILL NOT ALLUDE TO ANY MORE ABOUT THAT; HOWEVER, LIFE, LIFE IS EVER CHANGING.

AND I ENJOY OUR COMMUNITY IN AMELIA ISLAND.

AND THAT IS HOW I WILL FINISH IT.

THANK YOU. >>MAYOR BEAN: THANK YOU, SIR.

I WISH CONDOLE LEDGESES TO POLICE OFFICER CHRIS KAPENSKI AND HIS WIFE TERRY'S ON THE RECENT LOSS OF THE MOTHER HAZEL.

LOVING MOTHER TO HER SIX CHILDREN.

TALK ABOUT ROADWORK. CITY STAFF AND FDOT COMPLETED ROAD WORK THAT INVOLVED TEMPORARY LANE CLOSURES AND MINOR TRAFFIC DELAYS. PUBLIC WORKS EXTENDS OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO COMPLETE THE NEEDED MAINTENANCE EFFICIENTLY AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. AND WE ALSO HAVE PARTNERSHIP.

WE WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF FRIENDS FERNANDINA AND THE NASSAU COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAVE OFFERED -- PARTNERED TO OFFER BRAVE, B-R ANH-V-E. A WOMEN'S SELF-DEFENSE.

IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THE CLASS CONTACT MISS NICOLE MADDOX AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

WITH THAT I WILL GO AHEAD AND SAY THE NUMBER BECAUSE A NICE ROUND NUMBER. HAPPY 50TH BIRTHDAY TO THE VICE-MAYOR AND A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN BE DOING ON YOUR BIRTHDAY BUT THANK YOU FOR SPENDING A COUPLE OF HOURS FOR US. THANK YOU, VICE-MAYOR.

WITH THAT WE WILL GO AHEAD AND

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.