[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.KATHY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? SURE WILL.
THEN WE DO THE ROLL CALL. READY? NOW WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL. ALL RIGHT.
ROLL CALL. THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME.
. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME A NEW MEMBER, BY THE WAY, CHRISTOPHER NICHOLAS NICKOLOFF.
YOU'VE TAKEN WELCOME ABOARD AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
AT LEAST I AM. YOU KNOW, AND I THINK BARBARA AND EVERYBODY ELSE, YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND ANOTHER MEMBER TO FINISH OFF THE BOARD.
TWO VACANCIES. THERE'S TWO VACANCIES.
NOW, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS.
[4. MAB ORGANIZATION]
OKAY, IS GOING TO BE THE SELECTION OF THE NEW CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.OKAY. AND HERE ARE NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHAIR.
I NOMINATE JOE GLASS FOR JUST THE CHAIR.
THANK YOU ALL FOR ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? BAM, APPROVED.
BARBARA'S WHO I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND.
SURE. WE DON'T WANT TO THROW YOU UNDER THE BUS YET.
TO MY FIRST MEETING. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? MARIAN.
I'D LIKE TO STEP DOWN AS TREASURER, BUT I MEAN NOT TREASURER AS SECRETARY.
BUT WE CAN'T PUT CHRIS IN THAT POSITION ON HIS FIRST MEETING.
THAT'S FINE. BUT ANY, ANY NOMINATIONS, I DON'T HEAR ANY.
SO I ASSUME FROM THAT THAT BARBARA WILL BE THE NEW VICE CHAIR.
IT'S SUCH AN HONOR. THANK YOU.
OKAY. SO NOW WE HAVE THE TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO GET BLAMED FOR.
AND I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT KATHY CHAPMAN, I GUESS, IS NOW OUR NEW LIAISON.
THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. AND TO TAYLOR, FITZSIMMIONS IS NO LONGER REPRESENTING US FOR THE OASIS.
THANK YOU. AND WELCOME ABOARD.
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
OKAY. NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS OCTOBER 24TH.ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH THE MINUTES? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED.
[6. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]
WOLFGANG, I'VE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY.YEAH, JUST A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I CAN'T SEE THE ROCK.
YOU CAN FILL IT OUT AFTERWARDS.
I HAVE BOUGHT HERE IN THE MARINA AND I FOLLOW CLOSE THE DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT'S DONE.
TO MY SURPRISE ON THE LAST AGENDA OF THE CRAB CRAB.
THEY HAD TWO MARINA ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
SO I WAS INTERESTED AND I CAME HERE.
ONE WAS A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION ABOUT THE FUTURE, WALKING AROUND THE WATER FRONT AREA.
WHAT I DID NOT LIKE AT ALL WAS THAT THE PARKING SPACE ON A AND B WAS DRASTICALLY SHRINKED AND TAKEN AWAY.
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SO ALL THE BUSINESSES DOWN THERE, ALL THE PRIVATE BOATERS, WE ARE ALL SUFFERING BY THAT.AND IT WAS REPLACED BY A NICE GREEN AREA.
I ASSUME NO ONE WILL EVER SIT THERE IN THE FLORIDA SUN.
SO I HAVE A YEAR AGO ABOUT I SPOKE ABOUT THE PARKING SITUATION DOWN THERE AND I MADE AN EFFORT. I COUNTED THE PARKING SPOTS ON ON THE B LOT AND I COUNTED 49, INCLUDING FOUR FOR DISABLED PERSONS.
THEN I COUNTED ALL THE BUSINESSES IN THE MARINA, INCLUDING THE MARINA ITSELF AND THE CUSTOMERS.
AND WITHOUT THE MARINA AND THE CUSTOMERS, THE BUSINESS IS DOWN THERE.
ON A GOOD DAY, ALL THE PARKING LOTS ARE GONE, 49 PARKING LOTS, NO SPACE FOR ANYBODY ELSE.
SO THERE'S REALLY, REALLY A NECESSITY TO ADDRESS IT.
AND THIS IS A TREND WHICH IS GOING ON NOW.
WE, THE PUBLIC, SPEAK ABOUT IT.
I CAN BRING A LIST WITH SIGNATURES FROM THE MARINA, FROM EVERYBODY WHO IS CURSING ABOUT THIS.
AND IT'S JUST NOTHING HAPPENED.
MAYBE THIS A NEW CITY COMMISSION SOMETHING AND MOVED ON AGAIN.
YES, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO I WASN'T AT THE MEETING OR I DIDN'T REVIEW THAT MEETING WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, THAT PROPOSAL THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WAS THERE ANY RESOLUTION TO THAT OR ANY OUTCOME? NO, IT WAS JUST THE PRESENTATION OF THE WALKING.
OKAY. IT HAD REALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH WITH THE PARKING.
AND THEY SAY AND I ASKED THEM, DO YOU KNOW THIS? AND THEY SAID, NO.
SO AND I BUT I MUST ADMIT I HAD SEEN IT SOMEWHERE HERE, I THINK FROM THE PLANNING OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.
MR. ROSS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? WHAT ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS TO SAY? DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? WHAT DO YOU SAY? A LOT OF THINGS TO SAY. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? YOU WANT TO SAY THAT AGAIN? NOT. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW? WELL, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY TO GET SOME RESERVE PARKING NEAR BRETT'S? FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE MARINA.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OASIS ALWAYS SAYS IS THAT WE'RE COMPARABLE.
OUR MARINA IS COMPARABLE TO THE AMELIA ISLAND MARINA IS COMPARABLE TO, YOU KNOW, THE COVE.
IT'S COMPARABLE TO TIGER POINT.
THE TROUBLE IS, IT'S NOT THERE'S NO PARKING.
SO IS THERE ANY WAY IS THERE ANY.
GO AHEAD. ARE YOU ASKING ME WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE? I WOULD LOVE YOU TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
CHIP ROSS TO TEN NORTH THIRD STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA.
SO THE ISSUE IS PARKING AND THE CRA COMMITTEE.
FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU LOOK, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CRA GUIDELINES ARE? NO, BUT I KNOW OF THE COA CRA.
YES. ALL RIGHT. SO IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND THAT'S GOING BACK 20 PLUS YEARS, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CRA IS TO REMOVE ALL PARKING, ALL PARKING FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT'S BEEN IN THERE FOR A LONG FOR 20 PLUS YEARS.
RECENTLY, THE CRA, AS PART OF THAT PRESENTATION THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, CAME UP WITH A PARKING PLAN THAT PUT MORE PARKING, FOUND MORE PARKING SPACES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
SO YOU CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE TOMORROW AND YOU CAN GET THAT.
IT'S GOING TO BE BROUGHT UP. AT WHAT TIME? I'M SORRY? APRIL 4TH.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. SO THE PROPOSAL.HAVE YOU SEEN IT? YOU'VE SEEN IT.
SO IT'S ONLY BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. THE TAKING ALL THE SPACES AWAY.
IS IT THE SPACES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY? ARE THEY GOING TO BE REPLACED BY THE SAME AMOUNT OF SPACES IN THE NEW PROPOSALS ON THE WEST SIDE? CORRECT. OKAY.
WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO FIT ALL THAT? WELL, GO LOOK AT THE IT'S A LITTLE FEW HERE, SOME OVER HERE.
SO, I MEAN, WITHIN A QUARTER, WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF DOWNTOWN, THERE'S 1300 PARKING SPACES.
NOW, NOBODY EVERYBODY WANTS TO PARK RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
SO YOU EITHER HAVE AMENITIES OR YOU HAVE PARKING.
GOT IT. THANK YOU, MR. [INAUDIBLE]. SURE. THERE IS, THOUGH, AN ISSUE WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE VOTERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CARRY STUFF DOWN TO THE DOCK FROM THEIR BOAT AND BRING IT BACK UP.
I AGREE WITH THAT, CALLED THE DROP OFF ZONE.
AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PLAN.
ANYTHING ELSE? NO, THANK YOU, SIR.
[7. OLD BUSINESS]
OKAY. ALL BUSINESS.THERE WAS A SUBJECT BROUGHT UP BACK AT ONE OF OUR LAST MEETINGS ABOUT THE FLORIDA STATUTE, ABOUT EVACUATION OF THE MARINA DURING A STORM, AND PEOPLE IN THE MARINA WERE ASKED TO SIGN A DOCUMENT THAT IF THE MARINA DECLARES THAT THERE IS A STORM, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO REMOVE THEIR BOAT FROM THE MARINA.
AND I ASKED MR. FITZSIMMONS AT THE TIME WHAT THE FLORIDA STATUTE WAS, AND HE PROVIDED A COPY OF IT.
THE TROUBLE IS, HE ONLY PROVIDED A PIECE OF THAT DOCUMENT.
OKAY. THE UNDERSIGNED OR HIS REASONABLE EMPLOYEE OR AGENT IS AUTHORIZED TO REMOVE YOUR VESSEL.
THAT'S WHAT HE HAD IN THE CONTRACT.
WHAT HE LEFT OUT WAS THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THAT STATUTE AFTER JUNE 1ST, 1994.
MARINAS MAY NOT ADOPT, MAINTAIN OR ENFORCE POLICIES PERTAINING TO THE EVACUATION OF VESSELS, WHICH REQUIRE THE VESSEL TO BE REMOVED FROM MARINAS FOLLOWING THE ISSUANCE OF A HURRICANE WATCH OR WARNING IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE PROTECTION PROTECTING THE LIVES OF THE AND SAFETY OF THE VESSEL OWNERS.
AND IT'S PLACED BEFORE THE INTERESTS OF PROTECTING PROPERTY.
SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE WHATEVER THOSE CONTRACTS WERE THAT WERE SIGNED BY THE VOTERS RESCINDED BECAUSE THAT PART WAS NEVER PUT IN THERE, THAT THEY HAD A VOLUNTARY ABILITY TO SIGN THAT THING.
SO THEY WERE THEY BASICALLY SIGNED IT UNDER MISREPRESENTATION.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
YOU'D LIKE THAT TO BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
WHAT DID YOU SAY? REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT I'M TELLING YOU WHAT THE FLORIDA STATUTE SPECIFICALLY SAYS, YOUR REQUEST, YOUR REQUEST FOR, IF YOU'RE REQUESTING IT TO BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
RIGHT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'D LIKE? I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT CONTRACT WAS MISREPRESENTED WHEN IT WAS ASKED TO BE SIGNED.
SO, AGAIN, I'LL SEND A REQUEST TO HER.
OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN.
DID EVERYONE SIGN THE CONTRACT? THE ADDENDUM? YES.
OKAY. CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YES. I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
BEFORE I BECAME A MEMBER OF THE MARINE ADVISORY BOARD.
I MET WITH SOME PEOPLE ON THAT WERE REAL CONCERNED IN THE MARINA ABOUT THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON.
THEY HAD A CONTRACT I LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, LOOKED THROUGH, AND PEOPLE WERE SIGNING STUFF.
THEY DIDN'T, IN MY OPINION, HAVE THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SIGNING.
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SO NOW THIS IS THE FIRST I KNEW THAT ABOUT THE STATUTE.I REMEMBER IT BEING BROUGHT UP AT THE MEETING.
I DON'T I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE FULL STATUTE NUMBER IS.
IT NEEDS TO BE READ INTO RECORD.
BUT IN MY OPINION, FOR SOMEBODY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND HAVE VOTERS SIGN THAT, THAT IS WRONG.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHO AND I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT HERE PUBLICLY.
I DON'T KNOW WHO AUTHORIZED THAT CONTRACT.
ESPECIALLY IF IT'S MISLEADING AND DIDN'T HAVE THE FULL STATUTE IN THERE.
AND IF IT DOES, SAY, IN 1994 THAT NOBODY CAN REMOVE A VESSEL, THEN NOBODY CAN REMOVE A VESSEL.
AND HOW DARE SOMEBODY ALLOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THOSE VOTERS AND HAVE THEM SIGN THAT? HOW DARE THEY DO THAT? SO I WANT TO KNOW WHO IT WAS THAT DID IT, WHO ALLOWED THAT TO GO THROUGH AND HAVE THOSE BOATERS SIGN.
WELL, SURE, MARIAN, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN AND I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.
OASIS AND THE CITY ATTORNEY APPROVED THAT CONTRACT.
SO THAT CONTRACT WAS WRITTEN UP IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND OASIS BEFORE IT WAS EVER PUT FORTH FOR SIGNATURE BY THE VOTERS, INCLUDING THE ADDENDUM, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I CAN NOTE YOUR CONCERNS AS A FOLLOW UP ITEM AND GET WITH TAMMY OK AND THE CITY AND OASIS AND AND FOLLOW UP ON YOUR CONCERNS. I GUESS THE EXACT QUESTION IS THE LEGALITY OF THE CONTRACT ITSELF.
WELL, AS FAR AS IT PERTAINS TO THE HURRICANE EVACUATION ADDENDUM, BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS THEY TOOK A PART OUT OF THE YOU CAN'T TAKE PART OF A STATUTE OUT. YOU CAN'T AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO ACCEPT THIS PART.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THAT PART.
OKAY. I'LL PRESENT HER WITH YOUR CONCERNS.
I'M NO LAWYER HERE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE FIRST PART SAYS.
THEY CAN'T MAKE YOU DO IT RIGHT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO RECOGNIZE YOUR SAFETY.
THE SECOND PART SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT FOR YOU.
YES. SO BASICALLY WHAT? THE SECOND PART MODIFIES THE FIRST PART.
THEY'RE NOT FORCING YOU TO DO IT.
THIS IS THE PART YOU ONLY SAW AND NEVER SAW THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THE READING IS GOING TO BE.
IT DOESN'T SAY. IT SAYS THEY CAN'T MAKE YOU DO IT, BUT IT DOESN'T SAYS THEY CAN'T DO IT THEMSELVES.
THEY'RE JUST SAYING THEY CAN'T MAKE THE SAFETY OF THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. THEY CAN'T MAKE YOU DO IT.
THAT'S WHAT THIS FIRST SENTENCE SAYS.
WELL, THEY CAN'T PUT THE BOAT IN JEOPARDY EITHER.
THEY CAN'T PUT THE PERSON OWNER OR THE PROPERTY OR THE BOAT IN OR IN JEOPARDY.
BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ANSWER.
BUT I MEAN, GO AHEAD AND HAVE HER TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
BUT I MEAN, IT'S THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
AND THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, IT'S ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND THE SECOND PARAGRAPH.
AND SO THE FIRST PARAGRAPH SAYS, I CAN'T PUT YOUR LIFE AT JEOPARDY TO SAVE YOUR VESSEL.
I CAN'T INSIST YOU PUT YOUR LIFE AT JEOPARDY TO SAVE YOUR VESSEL.
SO I'M GOING TO REMOVE YOUR VESSEL.
I RECOGNIZE YOUR RIGHT TO SAFETY, BUT I'M GOING TO REMOVE YOUR VESSEL.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE'S GOING TO COME BACK AND TELL YOU THAT SHE CAN'T MAKE YOU SAY, I DON'T.
ABOUT PASSING. I MEAN, IF IT'S REFERENCED AND IT SAYS THIS IS THE APPLICABLE PARAGRAPH.
YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT THE REFERENCE, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO SECTIONS.
THE WAY I READ IT, I JUST THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
THEY CAN'T MAKE YOU DO IT, BUT THEY CAN DO IT THEMSELVES.
SO THEY'RE NOT ASKING YOU FOR ENDANGERING THEMSELVES TO REMOVE THE VESSEL.
IT'S THE SAME RULE I USE TO KICK PEOPLE OUT OF THE SHIPYARD.
I USE THE SAME WAY. I MOVE PEOPLE OUT THE SHIPYARD THE EXACT SAME WAY.
SAY YOU'RE LEAVING OR I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR VESSEL.
DECIDE WHICH ONE YOU WANT TO DO.
I'LL BET YOU I PROBABLY QUOTE THIS EXACT TERM IN MY IN MY CONTRACTS WITH FOLKS WHO COME TO ME.
BUT THERE'S EVEN MORE INTERESTING IN HERE BECAUSE IT EVEN MENTIONS THAT THE MARINA OWNER CANNOT TELL YOU WHICH CLEATS TO USE AND WHICH NOT CLEATS TO USE TO SECURE YOUR VESSEL AND WHAT LINES AND EVERYTHING.
SO THAT KIND OF IMPLIES, RIGHT? REALLY, I KIND OF IMPLIES IT'S UP TO.
I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT FURTHER.
IT'S WORTH TAKING A LOOK AT. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT CLOSELY.
IF THAT AND IF THAT CONTRACT NEEDS TO BE PULLED BACK, IT NEEDS TO BE RESCINDED.
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ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? PERHAPS WE COULD GET SOME OF THE VOTERS TO COME AND EXPRESS KIMLEY-HORN STATUTE ON THERE, PLEASE.I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO HERE IS WHY THAT THAT WAS GENERATED.
I MEAN, IT'S ONLY FOR A HURRICANE AND TROPICAL STORM WATCH.
BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S INTERPRET YOUR INTERPRETATION.
IT'S JUST MY INTERPRETATION THAT THEY HAVE A CHOICE TO DO IT THEMSELVES.
BUT THE MARINA IS SAYING IF YOU PREFER TO PROTECT OUR ASSETS, WE NEED TO GET YOUR VOTES OUT OF THERE AND YOUR VESSELS GONE. OTHERWISE, IF YOU DON'T WITHIN THIS PERIOD OF TIME, THEN WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO MOVE THEM.
AND IS THAT A THIRD WAY? I READ IT. SO THAT'S WHAT'S INTERESTING.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR EXPENSE, A BETTER INTERPRETATION OF IT BECAUSE NONE OF US ARE LAWYERS.
YEAH, IT DOES SAY THE EXPENSE AT THE OWNER'S EXPENSE.
IT DOES SAY YOU ARE FURTHER NOTIFIED THAT YOU MAY BE CHARGED A REASONABLE FEE FOR SUCH ACTION.
BUT IT'S WORTH A LOT TO SAY, YEAH, LAWSUITS, RESPECTIVE LAWSUITS.
SO ANYWAY. BUT REGARDLESS OF THAT, OKAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO STATE A STATUTE IN A DOCUMENT, YOU SHOULD STATE THE WHOLE. THAT'S TRUE.
I CAN SEE THAT. I MEAN, IT SEEMS THERE'S AN APPEARANCE ON THAT.
IT COULD BE DECEITFUL AND BECAUSE NOT THE WHOLE PICTURE IS THERE.
BUT YEAH, I COULD UNDERSTAND THAT PERCEPTION.
BUT YEAH, SO THAT'S ONE ISSUE THERE.
HOW ARE THE CONTRACTS WRITTEN NOW FOR LONG TERM RESIDENTS IN THE MARINA? YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO THERE WAS AN ANNUAL CONTRACT, RIGHT? RIGHT. CURRENTLY THERE'S A WE HAVE AN ANNUAL SLIP HOLDERS.
THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT IS NOT TO EXCEED TECHNICALLY, I BELIEVE IT'S 222 DAYS.
SO IT AUTOMATICALLY ROLLS OVER EVERY MONTH.
SO THE CONTRACT IS RENEWED ANNUALLY AND RE SIGNED BY ALL THE LONG TERM SLIP HOLDERS.
YES, SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT NECK OF THE WOODS.
OKAY AND THAT'S RENEWED EVERY TIME THAT THE CONTRACT GOES ONCE A YEAR.
YES. AND IT CAN BE CANCELED BY THE SLIP HOLDER.
SURE. IT CAN BE CANCELED BY MARINA OR THE SLIP HOLDERS.
30 DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE, 30 DAYS NOTICE.
CORRECT. AND WHAT WOULD BE THE REASON THAT THE CITY OR EXCUSE ME, THE OASIS MARINA WOULD CANCEL SOMEBODY'S CONTRACT.
BUT COULD YOU GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES OF, YOU KNOW, FAILURE TO PAY AGAIN, FAILURE TO PAY DOCKS? RIGHT. THAT'S A GIVEN.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MYRIAD REASONS WE'VE NOT DONE IT.
WE'VE NEVER DONE IT ANYTHING FROM CONTINUALLY BREAKING THE MARINA RULES THAT ARE STATED ALONG WITH THE CONTRACT FAILURE TO KEEP YOUR BOAT IN PROPER WORKING ORDER, FAILURE TO KEEP YOUR BOAT PRESENTABLE.
THERE'S THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE IN THERE.
THERE'S LANGUAGE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GRILLING ON THE DOCK.
I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE IS PROBABLY FAILURE TO PAY.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY.
[8. NEW BUSINESS]
NEW BUSINESS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS? YEAH, WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS.THANK YOU, WOLFGANG, FOR TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING.
WHERE ARE THE VOTERS PARKING RIGHT NOW? WELL, IF YOU FIND A SPOT FOR US, WE GO TO BE.
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IF IT IS FULL, WE GO TO THE OVERFLOW LOT TO SEE THE.THAT IS FULL. I PERSONALLY PARK HERE BEHIND THE BUILDING, WHICH IS NOT AT ALL.
YEAH. SO THEY'RE MAKING DO AND LOADING AND UNLOADING.
WHERE DO THEY GO FOR THAT? AND, UH, ONE WHEN BAY AND YOU DRIVE IN, YOU PUT YOUR FLASHLIGHT ON AND THEN YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES TO UNLOAD VERSUS TEN MINUTES TO UNLOAD YOUR FEET.
I WALKED LIKE FIVE MINUTES TO MY BOAT.
THEN I HAVE TO STRETCH THE THINGS AWAY AND I COME BACK.
I NEVER CAN MAKE THE TEN MINUTES, BUT THAT IS ONLY LIKE A LITTLE THING.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT VERY OFTEN A DELIVERY FOR BREAD FOR THE MARINA OFFICE SOME AND ALSO FOR BIG YACHTS DOWN THERE AT THE DOCK.
THEY PARK THERE FOR HALF AN HOUR OR LONGER.
AND WHEN YOU COME, EVERYTHING IS TAKEN.
I MEAN, IF YOUR GROCERIES, YOU HAVE A LONG HAUL.
AND FROM SERVICE, A CAR FROM SOMEONE, IT'S NOT IDEAL.
AND ALSO THIS THING WAS NOT ADDRESSED IN THIS PICTURE.
SO AND BUT I ASSUMED THEY WOULD ADDRESS IT KIND OF IN THE PLANNING.
I THINK WE HAVE OUR WORK CUT OUT FOR IT.
SECOND THING IS WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY REPORTS FROM OASIS FROM FEBRUARY OR MARCH.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF THAT'S A NEW TREND OR WHAT.
WHAT REPORTS WERE YOU RECEIVING PREVIOUSLY? USED TO SEND OUT A REPORT EVERY MONTH.
OH, HE WOULD FORWARD YOU THE REPORT THAT GOES TO THE CITY MANAGER.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD RESTART BECAUSE WE'RE SORT OF IN THE BLIND.
WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY INFORMATION AT ALL.
TO HEAR IT ON THE STREETS IS KIND OF INTERESTING WAY TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND, YOU KNOW, NO REFLECTION ON YOU, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE PUT OUT.
YOU'RE IN CHARGE AND HE'S NOT HERE ANYMORE.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD EXPECT TO RECEIVE.
AND AS A BOARD, WE ARE DESERVING OF THAT.
BUT JUST FUEL SALES, FUEL SALES, NUMBER OF TRANSIENTS, RIGHT.
YEAH. IT WAS MORE DETAILED SO YOU COULD DRAW SOME CONCLUSIONS ON PROFIT AND LOSS AND USAGE OF THE MARINA AND MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. WELL, HOW ELSE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON? THE REPORT GETS PUBLISHED PUBLICLY.
I KNOW IT GETS REPORTED INTO THE FERNANDINA OBSERVER.
IT ALSO GOES INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
BUT I'M HAPPY TO START EMAILING THAT AFTER I EMAIL IT TO THE CITY MANAGER.
SURE, EMAIL THAT OUT TO YOU [INAUDIBLE].
A COUPLE ITEMS. PROBABLY BEST FOR HERE IN NEW BUSINESS RATHER THAN COMMENTS.
SO ON THE 18TH OF JANUARY, A SEDIMENTATION REPORT WAS RELEASED.
THE CITY HAD PAID FOR. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THAT.
SO I READ IT IN COMPLETELY ENGINEERING, THINK ABOUT THAT KIND OF THING.
SO I WANTED TO READ THE WHOLE THING TO SEE WHAT IT HAD TO SAY.
PLUS, I HAVE SOME BUSINESS INTERESTS THAT OVERLAP WHEN IT COMES TO SEDIMENTATION AND RIVERS.
SO WHAT IT SAYS IS WE'RE GOING TO BE DREDGING A LOT FOR A LONG TIME.
THAT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOING AWAY.
OKAY. THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE MADE TO THE MARINA WENT HALFWAY THERE.
OKAY. THE PROBLEM IS THE STRUCTURE IS PERPENDICULAR TO THE SHORELINE.
BRETT'S IN PARTICULAR, IS GOING TO CAUSE THIS.
THE SOUTHERN END OF THE MARINA WILL CONSTANTLY FILL IN UNTIL SOMETHING'S DONE ABOUT THAT DOCK OR WHEN THE TIME COMES. WHEN THE TIME COMES ANYWAY.
AND THEN YOU CAN MAYBE DO A LITTLE BIT WITH SOME DREDGE PROFILE THE WAY IT'S DREDGED.
BUT SO THAT EXPENSE IS GOING TO BE THERE.
WHICH LEADS ME TO THE NEXT POINT.
THE MARINA RIGHT NOW IS SUBSIDIZED BY THE CITY, BASICALLY.
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RIGHT. IS IT GOING TO BE SELF SUSTAINING? WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD THAT COST WOULD BE AND AT LEAST HAVE THAT NUMBER IN OUR HEAD.WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE TO CHARGE FOLKS? AND YOU COULD SLICE IT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS TO MAKE IT SELF SUSTAINING SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT ABOUT WHAT TO DO FROM THERE EITHER CHARGE THE MONEY OR FIND SOME OTHER WAY TO DO IT.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REDUCE YOUR COSTS.
I MEAN THE BIGGEST COST IS THE DREDGING AND THE INSURANCE.
AND I CAN GUARANTEE THOSE ARE GOING TO GO UP THE BRICK WE GOT LAST TIME FOR DREDGING.
YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT AGAIN EVER.
I MEAN, THAT PRICE IS RIDICULOUSLY CHEAP.
WAS IT 250 OR 300 CUBIC YARD? 40. 60 IS MY NUMBER.
40 CUBIC YARD IS WHAT YOU GOT.
I PAY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 60 AND 150 A CUBIC YARD DOWN AT THE SHIPYARD.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY CHEAPER.
I'VE NEVER SEEN INSURANCE PRICES COME DOWN.
RIGHT. SO THEY'RE ONLY GOING UP TO.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE WAYS OF HELPING FUND THE MARINA IN OTHER WAYS AND ALSO IN THE CITY.
AND I FIGURED THAT CITY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALREADY LOOKED INTO THIS.
THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY PAY COUNTY TAX AND CITY TAX.
AND YET WE ONLY USE OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
WE DON'T USE THE COUNTY'S BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
SO WE ALSO USE OUR PERMITTING DEPARTMENT.
WE DON'T USE THE COUNTY'S BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
SO YOU WOULD HOPE THAT THE CITY COMMISSIONERS AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COULD WORK OUT A DEAL WHERE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PROVIDE SOME FUNDING TO THE CITY SINCE WE'RE TAKING THE LOAD OFF OF THEM FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND WE COULD USE SOME OF THAT MONEY TO FUND OTHER THINGS.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF IF THEN STATEMENTS.
AND ONE OF THEM IS THE CITY, ONE IS THE COUNTY AND ONE IS THE OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY.
AND IT'D BE REALLY NICE IN A PERFECT WORLD IF WE COULD GET EVERYBODY TO WORK TOGETHER.
THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT HAPPENING, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT.
BUT I WOULD HOPE MR. ROSS AND HIS FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ARE LOOKING INTO THAT.
AND I'M HOPING THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE LOOKING INTO THAT BECAUSE OUR CITY MARINA IS NOT ONLY USED BY CITY RESIDENTS, IT'S USED BY COUNTY RESIDENTS JUST LIKE OUR POOLS, OUR PARKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO IT ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT SOME OF THE COUNTY MONEY THAT'S BEING PAID COMES BACK HERE FOR THOSE SERVICES WE'RE PROVIDING TO COUNTY RESIDENTS. SO, YOU KNOW, MY OWN PERSONAL ON A SOAPBOX ISSUE, SORRY, BUT THAT MIGHT BE BIGGER THAN THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD CAN HANDLE.
IT'S DEFINITELY BIGGER THAN THAT.
OKAY, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PUT IT ALL ON THE BOATER THERE.
I THINK SOME OF YOUR FELLOW TAXPAYERS WOULD DISAGREE THAT YOU CAN'T PUT IT ALL ON THE BOATER.
I THINK MAYBE WHAT GENEROUS 2% OF THE PEOPLE USE THE MARINA, MAYBE IN THE WHOLE CITY, MAYBE YOU COULD GET 20% TO AGREE THAT IT HAS A WATERFRONT ESTHETIC THAT.
THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE FUNDING IT SO WELL.
I THINK THAT AS THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD, ONE OF THE ADVICE WE WOULD GIVE.
HEY, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD COST TO BECOME SELF SUSTAINING.
IT IS AN ENTERPRISE. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF BECOMING SELF SUSTAINING? I MEAN, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY STUDIES DONE TO TO SEE? I THINK IT'S MORE OF A MATH PROBLEM.
AND THEN WE CAN MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT PROJECTION.
AND JUST BASED ON THAT, I MEAN, AND THEN WE KNOW WHAT OUR COSTS ARE.
I THINK YOU'LL FIND PRETTY I HAVE DONE THE MATH YET, BUT I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ONE AND A HALF TIMES THE COST THAT EVERYBODY'S PAYING RIGHT NOW, PROBABLY MAYBE TWO TIMES THE COST IN ORDER TO BE SELF SUFFICIENT.
BUT AT LEAST YOU GOT TO KNOW THAT NUMBER.
SO I THINK THAT I BELIEVE THAT COULD BE OASIS THAT DOES THAT CALCULATION FOR US, RIGHT? WE COULD DO THAT IF WE DID THE CALCULATION DID IT.
WE OUGHT TO KNOW THAT NUMBER BECAUSE THEN THAT'S THE AMOUNT WE'RE ASKING THE YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN MARIAN ARE ASKING THE REST OF THE CITY TO FUND FOR THEM. AND THEN THAT GETS TO YOUR POINT ABOUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
BUT THEY CAN MAKE A CHOICE ABOUT IT.
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WHAT WOULD IT COST FOR THEM TO BE SELF SUFFICIENT? RIGHT. I KNOW THAT COST.I'M PRETTY SURE MR. ROSS PROBABLY KNOWS THAT COST.
AND I THINK IT BECOMES MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HAD QUITE A CHANGE IN THE CITY BOARD, RIGHT? THERE'S A DIFFERENT FISCAL APPROACH IN THIS BOARD THAN THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY.
YOU KNOW, I'VE READ IN OPEN SOURCE COMMENTS SUCH AS WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE WITH LESS.
I MEAN, CITY IS A COST CENTER DOESN'T GENERATE ANY PROFITS.
IT'S NOTHING BUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND PEOPLE.
AND THAT DOESN'T GET CHEAPER OVER TIME, OF COURSE.
SO I CAN'T SAY WAGES AREN'T GOING TO GO DOWN AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET CHEAPER TO RESURFACE A ROAD.
SO THE COSTS ARE GOING TO GO UP.
SO I THINK THAT GIVEN THAT THOSE FISCAL CONSTRAINTS WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US TO AT LEAST KNOW THAT NUMBER FOR OUR SO THE TOPIC THERE IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK OASIS TO PROVIDE US A STUDY, OKAY.
OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MAKE THIS WHAT FUNDING IT WOULD TAKE TO MAKE THE MARINA SELF-SUFFICIENT ON DOCK FEES, BASICALLY, AND FUEL FEES AND WHATEVER ELSE, ANY FORM OF INCOME YOU CAN MAKE, WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MAKE THE MARINA SELF-SUFFICIENT.
AND THEN WE CAN FIND OUT WHETHER WE CAN LIVE WITH THAT OR NOT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE CITY FATHERS AND WE CAN DO THAT.
SO WE'LL HOPEFULLY GET THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
YEAH, I KNOW YOU'RE VERY BUSY, SO I KNOW THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN, BUT NO, WE'LL MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
HUH? WE CAN GET THAT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING SINCE WE MEET BI MONTHLY.
ANOTHER ITEM I'D LIKE TO BRING UP IS I'D LIKE TO THE APPROVAL OF THE BOARD FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER A RESOLUTION FOR THE CITY COMMISSIONERS, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY.
THE RESOLUTION WOULD REQUEST THAT THE FEDERAL CHANNEL SOUTH OF EIGHT OF RED TEN BE DISESTABLISHED.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS? YES, SIR. GO AHEAD.
YES, SIR. WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY? SOUTH OF RED TEN.
WHAT IS RED? TEN SOUTH OF RED TEN TO BE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT TOGETHER A RESOLUTION.
OKAY. THAT REQUESTS THAT THE GO TO THE RESOLUTION WOULD GO TO THE CITY.
BUT I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT IT WAS, BASICALLY.
HERE'S WHAT CHIP ROSS, TEN NORTH THIRSTY.
WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THERE'S THE CHANNEL OUT HERE.
IT'S BEEN HERE SINCE THE A LONG TIME AND IT'S BEEN BASICALLY ABANDONED.
BUT IT WAS TO GO DOWN TO FOR 50 YEARS.
YEAH. BASICALLY IT WAS TO GO DOWN TO THE MILL HERE.
ALL RIGHT. IT'S THE CHANNEL, RIGHT? THE. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN RECOMMEND THAT IS OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY.
SO YOU DON'T NEED TO INVOLVE THE CITY BECAUSE THEY'LL GO ON BOARD.
YOU DON'T NEED TO INVOLVE THE COUNTY.
YOU GO TALK TO THE OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY.
WHO HAS VEHEMENTLY AND RESOLUTELY ALWAYS RESISTED THAT.
AND IF YOU GET THEM TO AGREE, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
SO IT'S NOT THE CITY AND IT'S NOT THE COUNTY.
IT'S OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY.
BUT IF A RESOLUTION COMES FROM THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY, A RESOLUTION REQUESTING WE'VE ALREADY WE'VE ALREADY WE DID THAT YEARS AGO.
WE'VE DONE WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD AND IT'S THE OCEAN HIGHWAY.
SO WHY DON'T YOU GO TO THE OCEAN HIGHWAY, PORT AUTHORITY AND YOU CAN GET THREE VOTES THERE? WE'RE THERE. I MEAN, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO.
YOU DON'T NEED TO INVOLVE THE CITY.
YOU DON'T NEED INVOLVE THE COUNTY.
SO I'VE BEEN TO ALL THESE MEETINGS.
THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT INFINITUM.
AND UNLESS YOU GET THE OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY TO AGREE, SO WHY DON'T YOU GO AND MEET WITH THEM? YOU CAN EVEN HAVE A JOINT MEETING.
YOU'VE GOT TO GET THREE COMMISSIONERS, THREE OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY TO AGREE TO THAT.
SO IS THERE SOME WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE FOR THE MARINA? WHY WOULD WE WANT TO DO THAT? WHY WOULD WE WANT TO DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHY WE WANT TO DO THAT? WELL, RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THE CHANNEL WHERE THE CHANNEL IS, IT'S BECAUSE EITHER SIDE OF THE CHANNEL YOU HAVE TO WE CAN'T MOVE OUT INTO TOWARDS THE TO THE WEST
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IF YOU WANT TO IF YOU THE HISTORY ON THIS IS THAT WHEN THE ATTENUATORS WERE FIRST BUILT.OKAY THE SETBACK FROM THE CHANNEL WAS 60FT.
AND WE WEREN'T GRANDFATHERED IN.
OKAY, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GRANDFATHER ANYBODY IN.
SO THERE WAS A VERY LARGE DISCUSSION ON WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO REBUILD THE MARINA.
OKAY. THERE WAS SPECIAL DISPENSATION MADE WITH ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO MAKE A ONE TIME ALLOW US TO DO IT NOW IN THE INTERIM, SINCE THEN, THE CITY SAID, WELL, WE'LL GO TO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND WE'LL REQUEST THAT THEY APPROVE THE MOVING OF THE FEDERAL CHANNEL WEST 100FT.
SECOND, WHICH OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY AGREED TO THE OCEAN HIGHWAY.
BUT NOW IT'S THAT'S PARKED IN FRONT OF CONGRESS NOW WHERE THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THIS THAT MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING SAID THAT IF THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS EVER DETERMINED THAT THE CHANNEL HAD TO BE REBUILT, IN OTHER WORDS, MAINTAINED THAT THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH BEACH WOULD PAY FOR IT, IT'S AT ONE TIME THE ESTIMATE WAS MADE ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO PUT THAT CHANNEL BACK TO WHERE IT WAS BEFORE.
AND THAT THE ESTIMATE WAS MADE AT THAT TIME WAS $200 MILLION.
NOW, THE REASON THAT THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS NOT MAINTAINED THAT IT'S TWO REASONS.
ONE, NOBODY NEEDS IT AND TWO, THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
JUST SO, HERE'S MY SUGGESTION.
GO GET THE OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY TO AGREE AND IT'S NO PROBLEM.
WELL, IF IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH US PUTTING TOGETHER A RESOLUTION THAT GIVES THE HISTORY OF THIS CHANNEL AND REQUESTS THAT THE CHANNEL BE DISESTABLISHED, WHO'S WE MAKING THAT RESOLUTION? NO, YOU CAN MAKE IF YOU WANT TO SPEND THE TIME AND EFFORT TO DO THAT, THAT'S FINE.
I KNOW. I'M PUTTING IT TOGETHER.
IF YOU SEND IT TO ME, I'M HAPPY TO GIVE IT TO THE OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY.
WOULD THE CITY COMMISSIONERS AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, WOULD YOU SAY WOULD YOU ENDORSE IT ON ITS WAY? I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM.
I'M JUST ASKING THAT. THANK YOU, SIR.
I WOULD ENDORSE IT PERSONALLY.
THANK YOU. SO THAT IT COULD BE PUT FORWARD FOR ENDORSEMENT, THOUGH.
I'M SORRY. IT COULD BE PUT FORWARD FOR ENDORSEMENT.
SURE. WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL PASS IT THROUGH.
SHE CAN SEND IT TO THE BOARD BECAUSE I'M NOT ALLOWED TO.
YEAH. IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU? YES. YES, IT WOULD BE. YES.
IT SHOULDN'T BE AROUND, AND IT WILL SOLVE OTHER ISSUES FOR THE MARINA IN THE FUTURE.
OKAY? YES, MA'AM. DIFFERENT SUBJECT.
AS A MARINE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER, I WOULD LIKE MORE FINANCIAL INFORMATION FROM OASIS.
THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IN SEEING HOW YOU'RE DOING AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED.
NOT TRYING TO MICROMANAGE, JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY? THE MONTHLY REPORT IS A VERY IN-DEPTH FINANCIAL DOCUMENT THAT GOES OUT EVERY MONTH AND THAT HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN IT.
YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVEN'T RECEIVED JANUARY OR FEBRUARY OR MARCH.
WELL, OKAY, MARCH IS NOT OUT YET.
AND IT'S THE COMPLETE FINANCIAL STATEMENT FOR THE MONTH.
WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE IT AS WELL? ARE YOU GOING TO SEND IT AUTOMATICALLY GOES TO THE WHOLE BOARD.
SO THE MONTHLY REPORT AND THE SECOND ATTACHMENT IS THE FINANCIALS.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
ALSO, HOW ABOUT FEEDBACK FROM THE CUSTOMERS? BECAUSE THE ONLY FEEDBACK WE'VE EVER HAD AS I'VE BEEN A MEMBER IS EVERYTHING'S SUPER WONDERFUL.
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AND I KNOW AND I'VE TALKED TO VOTERS DOWN THERE AND THEY GO, SO I WAS WONDERING IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.THE BEST WAY WE GET FEEDBACK PERSONALLY IS WE GO TO ALL THE REVIEWS, WE GO TO GOOGLE REVIEWS.
WE REALLY TRACK THOSE VERY CLOSELY.
WE PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THOSE.
ONE THING THAT'S BEEN A NEGATIVE HAS BEEN THE SECURITY GATES WERE YOU KNOW, WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT.
SO WE DO PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE REVIEWS.
CORRECT? SNAG A SLIP IF YOU GO TO SNAG A SLIP IN PARTICULAR, IT'S REALLY A GREAT RESOURCE FOR THAT.
AND MAYBE WE AS BOARD MEMBERS COULD GO DOWN TO THE MARINA AND TALK TO A FEW OF THE BOATERS BEFORE MEETINGS AND JUST SEE WHAT THEY'RE HAVING TO SAY, BECAUSE THEY'LL TELL YOU A LOT.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD.
YOU'RE WELCOME. HOW'S THE STATUS OF THE GATES? REMEMBER ONE TIME TAYLOR WAS TALKING ABOUT PUTTING SECURITY GATES UP? YES, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT WAS GOING TO BE IN MY MARINA MANAGER'S REPORT.
BUT WE GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT IT NOW.
THAT GOES BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON, I BELIEVE IT'S APRIL 18TH.
THE BID AWARD IS BEEN SUGGESTED TO GO TO HAYWARD CONSTRUCTION.
THE BID CAME IN AT 10,001 63 FOR THREE GATES, THREE SIX FOOT GATES.
AND SO THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE A LOCKING MECHANISM OR AN ELECTRICAL LOCK SYSTEM THAT'LL COME SECOND.
BUT THE GATES, WE WILL HAVE SIGNS ON THEM.
AND I THINK IT WILL BE A DETERRENT IN THE EVENINGS ONCE WE CLOSE THOSE GATES AND THERE'S A SIGN, YOU KNOW, BOAT OWNERS AND THEIR GUESTS ONLY, I THINK PEOPLE WILL HEED THAT AND THEY'LL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
SO YOU'LL JUST DO THE HANDLE AND IT WON'T BE SECURE.
THE SURF FESTIVAL IS COMING UP AS THE COAST GUARD WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THEY CAN BRING A BOAT IN AND CAN THEY DO IT FREE OF CHARGE, OR WILL YOU CHARGE THEM A FEE TO PUT IT ON THE PIER? THEY HAD 17,000 PEOPLE IN TWO DAYS VISIT IT.
AND THE COAST GUARD DOES NOT, OF COURSE, CHARGE TO VISIT THEIR BOAT.
SURE, THE MARINA IS FULLY BOOKED FOR SHRIMP FESTIVAL AT THIS TIME.
WE DO HAVE A WAIT LIST THAT WE'VE STARTED.
SO THERE'S LITERALLY NO NOT AN INCH AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW FOR EXTRA BOATS AT THE MARINA.
SO WE DO CHARGE FOR THE DOCKAGE TTC.
I KNOW IN THE PAST HAS PAID THE DOCK FEE FOR THE THE CUTTER, THE OLD SHIPS, RIGHT.
AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE FOR NEXT YEAR.
THE SAME SUBJECT WAS BROUGHT UP LAST YEAR, REMEMBER? AND AT THAT TIME THE CITY OR THE MARINA SAID THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY A FOOTAGE FEE TO HAVE THE BOAT BROUGHT IN.
AND OF COURSE, THEY TURNED THAT DOWN.
THEY DID GET IT FREE BEFORE OASIS STARTED MANAGEMENT OF THE MARINA.
THEY DID GET THE FREE USE OF IT DURING THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE POLICY NOW IS THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY.
OKAY. BUT THERE'S NO UNLESS YOU COULD GO BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION IN THE CONTRACT.
THERE IS A. CLAUSE THAT THE CITY COMMISSION OF FERNANDINA HAS THE OPTION TO ASK OASIS TO PROVIDE FREE DOCKAGE FOR A BOAT DURING EVENTS, AND THAT WOULD BE AT THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION.
THERE ARE SOME STIPULATIONS IN THERE.
IF THE REVENUE LOST MEETS A CERTAIN AMOUNT, THEN THE CITY WOULD NEED TO PAY THAT AMOUNT.
IT'S PRETTY LARGE. I DON'T KNOW THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY THE WAY THE WORDING GOES, RIGHT.
OKAY. AGAIN, WE ARE IN AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
THANK YOU. I'M HERE TO MAKE MONEY.
THEY ALL HEADED BACK TO SPAIN AND THANK YOU.
THOSE ARE THE SHIPS THEY WERE SO THE TALL SHIPS, OTHER TALL SHIPS.
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER TALL SHIPS ON THE SCHEDULE.
YEAH, I HAD SOMETHING ELSE WITH NEW BUSINESS.
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OR IS EVERYBODY ELSE FINISHED WITH NEW BUSINESS? I HAD SOMETHING ELSE.AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS REALLY THE RIGHT TIME TO BRING THIS UP, BUT.
THERE WAS AN EMAIL AND WE HAD A LONG PHONE CONVERSATION.
HE'S BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES AND HE WANTS TO PURCHASE THE MARINA.
SO I ASKED YOU. THAT'S INTERESTING.
WELL, AND THIS I'M USED TO BEING PULLED ALL OVER THE PLACE, ASKING ME QUESTIONS.
PEOPLE CALL AND ASK ME ALL KINDS OF STUFF ALL THE TIME.
YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE A WALKING DICTIONARY OR A PHONE BOOK OR SOMETHING.
YOU'RE JUST A HOT PERSON. SO HE HAD MY NUMBER, WHICH MY NUMBER'S OUT THERE.
AND HE HAD A VERY LONG CONVERSATION WITH ME AND WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT FERNANDINA.
I TOLD HIM THAT MY, YOU KNOW, GAVE MY SPIEL ON MY LITTLE SOAPBOX ABOUT HOW PASSIONATE I AM ABOUT THAT MARINA, THAT IT'S GOT TO BE PROTECTED, THAT WE ARE WORKING WATERFRONT AND IT'S GOING TO BE PROTECTED AT ALL COSTS.
HE BELIEVES THAT IT NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO BE THAT THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN.
BUT HE HAD A LOT OF IDEAS AND STUFF, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S TO BE PRESENTED TO ANYBODY, BUT I'VE HELD ON TO THIS. I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN SEVERAL MONTHS THAT HE CONTACTED ME AND HE KNEW THAT THIS MEETING WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE TONIGHT.
SO I SAID THAT I WOULD BRING IT UP HERE AT THE MEETING AND THEN CITY MANAGER OR I WAS THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT, IS IF HE WAS SERIOUS AND HAD A PROPOSAL, A FINANCIAL PROPOSAL, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS ALL, I DON'T KNOW HOW .
I DON'T KNOW HIS PHONE NUMBER AND EMAILS AND ALL THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A BAD STEP EITHER.
ANYBODY CAN MAKE AN UNSOLICITED OFFER TO BUY THE MARINA, SO HE NEEDS TO PUT IN WRITING EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS TO DO AND HE CAN SEND IT TO THE CITY INTERIM CITY MANAGER, BUT THAT'S WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO.
OKAY. SO. AND PUT IT IN WRITING.
AND SOMETHING ELSE I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS, UNLESS WE WANT TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO BOARD COMMENTS.
BUT BRINGING UP MR BLANCHARD BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE COAST GUARD CUTTER COMING IN.
I'M FED UP WITH ASKING THIS WAS ASKED LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR AGAIN, I MET I CALLED OR HAD AN EMAIL AND YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS AND TAYLOR DID.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU HAD TAKEN OVER IN HIS PLACE EITHER.
SO I'M NOT REALLY EMAILED YOU.
BUT DALE MARTIN HAD SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE A SPOT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER.
THAT'S THE SHORT AND THE GIST OF THE EMAIL.
SO THEN WHEN HE WAS, HE'S LEFT NOW.
SO NOW I HEAR THAT THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A SPOT I AM FED UP OVER THE TOP BOILING OVER THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A SHRIMP BOAT TO REPRESENT FERNANDINA BEACH THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO BE THE GRAND MARSHAL THIS YEAR IS A YOUNG SHRIMPER THAT GREW UP IN OLD TOWN.
I SAY YOUNG BECAUSE HE'S YOUNGER THAN ME.
HE HAS A BOAT. IT'S TIED UP AT COOKS.
AND IT'S NOT A POINT ABOUT THE MONEY.
OASIS IS NOT GOING TO LOSE THAT MUCH MONEY FOR THAT BOAT TO BE THERE FOR TWO NIGHTS.
HE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO STAY THERE ALL DAY, JUST PART OF THE DAY SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME, OH, WELL, THERE'S A SHRIMP BOAT BECAUSE AS IT IS NOW, NOBODY CAN SEE A SHRIMP BOAT UNLESS THEY WALK OUT ON THE MARINA, WHICH THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO BE DOWN IN THERE AND SEE THEM TIED UP AT COOKS OR MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE ONE TIED UP TOWARDS THE PORT.
SO I'M REALLY I'M TIRED OF HARPING ON THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
JUST PUT IT IN. I WOULD PUT THAT THROUGH TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
GREAT. WOULD YOU REQUEST IS THAT THE CORRECT FORMAT TO DO THIS? AND YOU'LL PROBABLY NEED TO VOTE ON IT, RIGHT? WELL, WE SHOULD VOTE ON A RESOLUTION, SOMETHING THAT IF YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS MARION'S CONCERNS.
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I UNDERSTAND YOUR EMOTION.I MEAN, THIS MAKES ME WANT TO START CRYING.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW PASSIONATE I AM ABOUT IT? I HEAR.
I'M THE DAUGHTER OF A COMMERCIAL SHRIMPER.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SAY WHAT WE CAN DO? JUST KEEP LISTENING MY SPIEL, OKAY? IF I WASN'T IN THE PIRATE CLUB, I WOULDN'T BE DOWN THERE THIS YEAR.
BUT WE HAVE TO. IT'S MANDATORY.
I WOULDN'T EVEN COME DOWN HERE BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT MAKING MONEY.
AND NOBODY GIVES A CARE ABOUT THE SHRIMPERS AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR THIS CITY.
IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR THE. THERE REALLY WOULDN'T BE A CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH.
YOU'D HAVE SOME WOOD BECAUSE THEY BROUGHT WOOD IN HERE AT THIS PORT.
SO I'M JUST I'M HEARTBROKEN THAT NOBODY SEES THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO BACK DOWN OFF OF THIS.
I'M GOING TO KEEP DOING IT UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TOO. HOLD ON.
SHE WANTS TO SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
I'VE WORKED AT THE MARINA SINCE 2013, OFF AND ON, COMING ON SIX YEARS AT THE MARINA.
MY DAD GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL HERE.
I HAVE A LONG HISTORY WITH THIS TOWN ALSO, AND I APPRECIATE THE SHRIMP BOATS.
THE SHRIMPERS HAVE BEEN HAPPY.
EVERYONE'S HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE SHRIMP BOATS UP CLOSE IS ON SUNDAYS WITH THE BLESSING OF THE FLEET AFTER THE BOATS COME BY PARTICULAR THE WINNER OF THE BEST SHRIMP BOAT DECORATED CONTEST.
AND WE OPEN UP THE FUEL DOCK ON SUNDAYS AFTER THE BLESSING OF THE FLEET FOR THE BOATS TO COME IN AND TIE UP FOR A LITTLE BIT AND ENJOY THE WIND AND EVERYTHING AND LET FOLKS COME DOWN AND GET CLOSE TO THE BOAT.
WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT, AND THAT'S OUR PLAN TO DO THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR.
SO I CAN JUST TELL YOU WHAT WE'LL PLAN ON DOING.
HOW MANY HOURS WOULD IT BE APPROXIMATELY? IT'S NORMALLY NO MORE THAN A COUPLE OF HOURS.
THEY DON'T YOU KNOW, THE GUYS ARE READY TO GO.
THEY JUST WANT TO IF THEY WANT TO TIE UP, IT'S NOT THAT LONG.
IT'S LIKE 1:00. SO MAYBE 1 TO 3 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IS THAT JUST OKAY? AND IT'S NEVER WE'VE ALWAYS OPENED IT UP AND MADE IT HAPPEN.
SUPER. MAY I MAKE THE RESOLUTION THAT I SO BOLDLY STATED BEFORE WITHOUT ASKING YOU ALL? I MAKE A PROPOSAL THAT WE ASK THE MARINA NEXT YEAR TO SAVE TWO SPOTS, ONE FOR A SHRIMP BOAT AND ONE FOR THE COAST GUARD VESSEL.
RATHER THAN US COMING AND SAYING THERE'S NO ROOM, YOU KNOW, SOLVING THE PROBLEM VERSUS SO I MAKE A PROPOSAL OR A MOTION THAT WE ASK THE MARINA TO DO THAT WITH A FEE WAIVED AGAIN, IF THE FEE IS WAIVED BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED TO BE PAYING, THE SHRIMPERS ESPECIALLY DON'T NEED TO BE PAYING.
WELL, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET A FESTIVAL OR SOMETHING.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? DO YOU SO IF IT'S DECIDED THAT A SPOT WOULD BE HELD OPEN FOR SHRIMP BOATS TO BRING HERE, DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILL BRING THE SHRIMP BOATS HERE THAT WOULD BE HERE FOR THAT TOTAL DURATION OF TIME? I DO ONE RIGHT NOW FOR ABSOLUTE SURE.
THEY CAN TIE UP AND WALK OVER THE BOATS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S CALLED AND I KNOW ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT THEY DO.
SO THE MOTION BEFORE US RIGHT NOW IS TO REQUEST THAT NEXT YEAR THAT THE MARINA SET ASIDE TWO SLIPS, ONE FOR THE COAST GUARD AND ONE FOR SLIP SPACE FOR COAST GUARD AND ONE FOR A SHRIMP BOAT.
IS THAT WHAT THE MOTION IS? IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON IT? I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? CAN WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION? WELL, DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT. SO YOU WANT THE FEES WAIVED AND THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION, CORRECT? YES. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S.
YEAH, I THINK WE THAT'S IMPORTANT.
OR FIND SOMEBODY TO PAY FOR IT.
WE WOULD SHOOT FROM THE SHRIMP BOAT, WHICH IS WHAT RICKY WANTED TO DO THIS YEAR.
HE'S PRETTY PROUD THAT HE'S GETTING THIS OPPORTUNITY.
HE'S FROM OLD TOWN, AND I'M REAL PROUD THAT HE'S GOING TO GET TO DO IT.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE BOARDED THE BOAT AND I FIRED BACK AND FORTH.
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I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN YET.BUT ANYWAY, SO THE BOAT WOULD COME UP.
WE HAD TO TAKE IT DOWN THERE IN A TRUCK AND THAT'S HEAVY AND UNLOAD IT, YOU KNOW, GO OUT.
OR WHATEVER, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE IT THERE TO PAY FOR STRIP FESTIVALS.
GOT PLENTY OF MONEY THEY COULD HELP PAY FOR IT.
SO I. IT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT IT'S THE REVENUE PART.
IT'S THE MONEY. AND THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT OASIS DOESN'T MAKE MONEY.
BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF OASIS MAKES LOSES MONEY, THE CITY LOSES REVENUE, TOO.
CORRECT. HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD IT BE FOR THAT BOAT TO BE HERE FOR TWO DAYS? THE COAST GUARD AS WELL.
WELL, WHAT'S THE LENGTH OF THE BOAT? SHRIMP BOAT. SHRIMP BOAT. 50FT LENGTH.
YEAH. SO IT'LL BE $300 FOR TWO NIGHTS FOR A 50 FOOTER.
WHAT ABOUT A COAST GUARD CUTTER? SAME THING. YEAH.
WHAT'S THE LENGTH? I COULD WRITE A CHECK. I MEAN, COME ON, NOW.
I MEAN, LOOK, MR MR. I AIN'T DOING THAT. GO AHEAD, MAKE IT 75FT.
OKAY, SO IT'S FOR TWO $50,000 FOR THE COAST GUARD? WELL, YES, I THINK WE'LL GET LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME FUNDING FROM OTHERS, EITHER THE CHAMBER OR THE TDC OR THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL OR.
YOU KNOW. MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR STILL.
OKAY. THESE MINUTES ARE GOING TO BE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
GOOD LUCK. THIS HAS COME UP EVERY YEAR AND IT WAS MADE QUITE CLEAR LAST OCTOBER TO ANYBODY THAT WAS LISTENING THAT YOU CAN GET.
AND FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE NO SLIPS.
YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE SIZE OF THE BOAT BECAUSE WE DO END TO END.
THERE'S NO SLIPS AND THEY CHARGE A PREMIUM PRICE FOR THAT.
WE WERE JUST HAVING THE DISCUSSION.
YOU HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE THE MARINA.
AND LAST OCTOBER, IN FACT, IS ON FEBRUARY.
JUST CALL US UP, GIVE US HOW LONG YOUR BOAT IS AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
NOT A PROBLEM. SO IT'S NOT MAINTAINING THIS.
YOU CAN GO IN OCTOBER AND THE COAST GUARD OR ANYBODY ELSE CAN GO AND RESERVE A BOAT.
CORRECT. AND THERE'S NEVER A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND WHAT ABOUT PAYING FOR IT? HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT? CREDIT CARD OR A CHECK.
ANYWAY, THAT THE COAST GUARD HAS OPERATIONAL ORDERS.
THEY CAN'T JUST SAY IN OCTOBER WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN MAY.
WELL, BUT THEY CAN'T HOLD THEM A SPACE THEN FOR WHATEVER.
I MEAN, THIS IS A REVENUE PRODUCING EVENT FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE MARINA.
WE ALREADY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
AND SO YOU'RE JUST SAYING, WELL, WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE OR NOT BE THERE.
THEY IT'S FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE AND THEY WANT TO RESERVE A SPACE.
SO BUT IN OCTOBER, GO IN AND RESERVE THE SPACE.
IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT YEAR'S.
AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.
WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON TO SAY, LET'S GO GET TWO SPOTS.
WELL, WHY ARE YOU DOING IT? WHY ISN'T THE COAST GUARD DOING IT AND DOES IT THROUGH US? THE COAST GUARD AUXILIARY.
WELL, THEN WHY DOESN'T THE COAST GUARD AUXILIARY DO IT? WELL, PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TOLD REPEATEDLY THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BRING A BOAT IN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PAY FOR IT.
SEEING THE COAST GUARD AUXILIARY IS NOT A MONEY MAKING GROUP.
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I'LL GO BACK. THE REASON THAT THE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPENSE, THE DEBT ON THAT MARINA IS $750,000 A YEAR.THE MARINE INSURANCE JUST THE ATTENUATOR IS $402,000 A YEAR.
AND THE DREDGING THIS YEAR IS GOING TO PROBABLY BE ABOUT $1.4 MILLION.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT INSURANCE ON A COAST GUARD CUTTER.
THEY'RE INSURED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOW.
SO I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT INSURANCE ON A COAST GUARD CUTTER.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT INSURANCE ON THE ATTENUATOR FOR HURRICANES.
SO THERE'S ALL THESE EXPENSES.
BUT THEN EVERYBODY COMES ALONG AND SAYS, WE WANT A PRICE BREAK.
NEVER HURTS TO ASK FOR DISCOUNT.
ANYWAY, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A SHRIMP BOAT THERE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE EVENT.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A COAST GUARD VESSEL THERE.
THE MONETARY PIECE, WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO FUND THAT AND IT HAS TO BE FUNDED SOMEHOW.
AND BRING BRING THOSE IN FOR TWO HOURS AND BRING ANOTHER ONE IN OR ROTATE THEM OUT.
TO ME, THOSE ARE IMPORTANT PIECES.
AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING OFFICIAL IS TO HAVE A PLAN AND A WORKING PLAN PUT TOGETHER THAT I CAN VOTE ON.
THEY'LL BE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY DO THE APPLICATION TO GET INTO THE MARINA AND THE COAST GUARD.
THE SAME THING. I'M JUST ASKING FOR TWO PLACES, BUT THAT'S FOR THESE TWO.
I AGREE. BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF THE PLAN IF A PLAN FALLS APART AND WE CAN'T GET A ROTATION THROUGH THERE, THEN THEY'RE LOSING REVENUE. IF THOSE SIT EMPTY UP TO A CERTAIN POINT AND NOBODY'S COME IN, IF A BOAT DOESN'T SHOW UP, I GOT NEWS FOR YOU.
THEY'LL RENT THAT SPOT SO FAST, YOUR HEAD SPIN.
THAT'S TRUE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE MONEY.
NO. AND IF THE SHRIMPERS ONLY NEED ONE DAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S FINE, TOO.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S ASKING.
YEAH. AND I DON'T WANT TO MICROMANAGE THE SHRIMPERS OR THE COAST GUARD.
SO HOW DO WE ADVISE THOSE GROUPS? I'M SURE MARIAN COULD HELP IN REALITY.
SO ALL I CAN DO IS SAY WHAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE HAPPEN IN A PERFECT WORLD.
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I THINK IF WE MAKE SOME KIND OF A RESOLUTION TONIGHT OR WHATEVER, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE DONE, THAT A LETTER COULD BE SENT BECAUSE THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL COMMITTEE IS THEIR OWN ENTITY.
THEY'RE THEIR OWN THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT.
WELL, EVEN IF THEY SAY, NO, WE'LL FIND THE MONEY AND THE TDC, I THINK WE SHOULD SEND THE LETTER.
LET'S BRING THIS TO A VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION SO WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION TO RESERVE TWO SPACES NEXT YEAR FOR THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL, ONE FOR A SHRIMP AND ONE FOR A COAST GUARD BOAT, SO THAT IF IT'S FILLED BY THOSE, THAT SPACE WILL BE AVAILABLE.
ANYBODY AGAINST THAT? ANY WE GET A SECOND ON THAT? YOU SECOND IT RIGHT A SECOND.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY FREE OF CHARGE AND THAT'S GOT TO BE IN THERE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE FIRST QUESTION THEY'RE GOING TO ASK IS WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO DO IT.
JUST MAKING A RECOMMENDATION CITY IS NOT GOING TO FUND IT.
WE'RE GOING TO FIND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU WHEN YOU APPROACH THE COMMISSION WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU INCLUDE THE LENGTHS OF THE BOATS SO THAT WE CAN PUT A DOLLAR ON WHAT IT IS.
GOOD. OKAY. SO WHO FROM THE BOARD IS GOING TO GO TO THE COMMISSION AND ASK, DO I HAVE TO COME TO A MEETING TO DO THAT? WELL, NO YOU CAN APPROACH THE COMMISSIONERS AS INDIVIDUALS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, IT NEEDS TO BE IN AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING.
I'M NOT GOING TO DO NOTHING VERBAL.
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YOU COULD. YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING NOW.BUT HOW DO WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN? I WOULD APPROACH FIRST THE CITY COMMISSION TO SEE IF THEY WOULD ENTERTAIN THE OPTION THAT'S IN THE CONTRACT, WHICH IS THE OPTION TO PROVIDE FREE SLIPS, AND THAT WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMISSION.
OR I WOULD SEE WOULD THEY WANT TO APPROACH THE TDC AND GET A COMMITMENT FROM THE TDC TO PAY FOR DOCKAGE OR THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL COMMITTEE? OKAY. NOW, ONCE WE MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION AND WE APPROVE IT, ASSUMING WE DO, IT'S GOING TO GO BEFORE WHERE WE HAVE TO TAKE IT.
WE HAVE TO TAKE WE HAVE TO TAKE IT BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION, CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. SO ONCE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION HERE, IT'S JUST YOUR DECISION.
THAT'S RIGHT. THEN YOU HAVE BASICALLY ONCE WE APPROVE IT, THEN I'LL GO BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION.
AND YOU COULD SPEAK AND WE'LL COME WITH YOU.
SAFETY IN NUMBERS, MR. ROSS. HOPEFULLY IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.
WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING IN APRIL BECAUSE THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL IS RIGHT AFTER.
RIGHT. BUT THERE ISN'T ONE RIGHT NOW.
THERE ISN'T ONE, RIGHT? NOW LET'S GO ON THE RESOLUTION FIRST ABOUT THE SPACES.
GOOD. SOUND LIKE A GOOD IDEA? WE NEED TO HAVE AN OFFICIAL VOTE, THOUGH.
CALL FOR QUESTION. CALL FOR QUESTION.
MORE QUESTIONS? NO CALL FOR QUESTION.
[INAUDIBLE] AND NOW WE AS A BOARD GO TO THE COMMISSION AND ASK THEM TO DO IT.
AND WE'LL FIND. I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD FIND THE FINAL LINE.
SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS RIGHT HERE.
NUMBER 11 ON THE AGENDA SAYS MAY 29TH, SINCE WE HAVE SO FEW MEMBERS AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN TOWN.
THE MEETING WILL BE CANCELED UNLESS WE FIND OTHER MEMBERS.
OKAY, WE NEED TO HAVE THE MEETING IN APRIL.
IS THAT A MOTION? WE DID THE SAME THING LAST YEAR.
REMEMBER? WE HAD TO MOVE THINGS AROUND BECAUSE THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL.
SO BASICALLY, IF WE CAN SCHEDULE THE 24TH, RIGHT? THE 24TH, YEAH.
I'LL WORK ON THAT. AND DON'T FORGET, EVERYBODY'S SUPPOSED TO GET MESSAGE TRAFFIC EMAILS AND STUFF SO THAT WE ARE AWARE OF STUFF BECAUSE ARE YOU SIGNED UP TO GET THE EMAILS WHEN THE AGENDA YESTERDAY HEY, JUST MADE THE 24 HOUR REQUIREMENT.
THAT WAS REALLY GOOD. I SAW THAT TIME IT SHOWED UP AND I WENT, WELL, JUST MADE IT WITHIN 24 HOURS.
OKAY, SO WE DECIDED ON THE DATE OR DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT DATE? OKAY. WE NEED A MOTION. IF EVERYBODY AGREES ON APRIL THE 24TH, FINE.
OKAY. THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE APRIL OF 24.
RIGHT. AND UNLESS WE GET MORE BOARD MEMBERS, I WILL NOT BE HERE IN MAY.
SO NO SENSE SCHEDULING A MEETING UNLESS WE HAVE MORE BOARD MEMBERS.
WE WILL NOT HAVE. WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION IN THE MAIN.
JUNE WOULD BE A MEETING AND IT'D BE THE LAST MONDAY ON JUNE.
DOES EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL? AND WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES, SO LET'S GO FIND SOME MEMBERS.
WELL, IT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, SO I THINK WE CAUGHT UP ON ALL THAT.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. TONIGHT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR. I DO HAVE A SMALL APPRECIATE SMALL MANAGER'S REPORT.
[9. MARINA MANAGER REPORT]
DOESN'T SHE HAVE TO REPORT TO ME? SEE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS AFTER.AND WHAT DID YOU SAY BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING? DATE DISCUSSION NUMBER TEN BOARD MEMBERS COMMENTS AFTER THIS.
WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE NEW GATES THAT ARE GOING IN.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
SO THAT'S A REQUIREMENT AT THE MARINA AND THAT'LL BE A WAY TO HAVE THAT SIGNAGE ON THOSE GATES.
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WHERE WILL THEY GO? WHERE WILL THE THE GATES BE PUT? THE GATES WILL HAVE ONE ON THE ADA RAMP.WE'LL HAVE ONE AT THE SHIP STORE IN FRONT OF THE SMALLER RAMP THAT GOES TO THE FUEL DOCK.
AND WE'LL HAVE ONE ON E DOCK FOR ALL THE CHARTER BOATS ARE THREE.
GOT IT. SO THAT'LL MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR SECURITY AND ALSO FOR CONTRACTOR SIGN IN.
AND AS I ALREADY MENTIONED, THE SECURITY CODES WILL COME LATER.
WILL, EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT WOULD THERE BE ANY GATES OVER TOWARDS WHERE KEVIN'S BOATS ARE? NOT AREA. THE GATE THAT'S GOING IN AT THE SHIP STORE WILL ALSO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR B DOCK.
OKAY. THERE IS NO GATE GOING IN YET ON A DOCK WHERE KEVIN'S BOATS ARE.
BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE WE DON'T ADD A GATE TO THAT DOCK AS WELL.
WE'VE GOT THE ANNUAL MOORING FIELD INSPECTION WILL BE CONDUCTED THIS WEEK.
NONE OF THOSE ARE MISSING. SO THAT'S ON TARGET FOR THIS WEEK.
WE HAD TO WAIT BECAUSE THE TIDES WERE SO HIGH LAST WEEK.
IT'S SO THE CURRENT IS SO ROUGH.
HE LITERALLY CAN'T GET DOWN THERE.
WE ARE MONITORING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF SHORTFALLS THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY THAT THEY KNOW.
WE'RE OFFERING THAT TO PEOPLE THAT COME IN.
IT'S $0.25 OFF A GALLON FOR DIESEL OR GAS ON FRIDAYS.
THE LAST FRIDAY WILL BE THIS FRIDAY.
SO WE'RE DOING THAT TYPE OF THING.
OF COURSE, WE'RE MONITORING THE FUEL PRICES.
WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP COMPETITIVE BUT ALSO MAINTAIN OUR MARGINS.
I DID A QUICK SURVEY JUST OF THE MARINAS IN THE AREA.
OUR COMPS, WE ARE $0.16 LESS ON GAS OVER AMELIA ISLAND MARINA AND $0.37 LESS A GALLON ON DIESEL WITH AMELIA ISLAND, WHICH IS OUR CLOSEST MARINA OVERALL WITH THE MARINAS IN THE AREA.
AS $0.13 LESS A GALLON ON DIESEL AND WE'RE A LITTLE OVER BY $0.25 ON GAS.
AND OF COURSE, WE SET THOSE PRICES JUST.
HOW WE HAVE TO BASED ON THE MARGINS ON OUR LAST LOAD.
THANK YOU. WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT CUTTER SHIP, JOE, THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE COME? THE CLIPPER SHIP? THE COAST GUARD CUTTER.
RIGHT. AND YOU CAN'T SAY THAT IN OCTOBER.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHERE SEA DRAGON IS GOING TO BE AT THAT TIME.
THEY WILL THEN SAY THERE IS ONE AVAILABLE OR THERE ISN'T.
AND THEY WILL TELL US JUST BEFORE THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY'LL KNOW.
WE HAVE THE COAST GUARD CUTTER.
RICHARD ETHERIDGE HAS A MARINA, A RESERVATION AT THE MARINA.
THEY'VE HAD IT FOR SOME TIME FOR THE ARRIVING ON THE FIFTH AND DEPARTING ON THE SEVENTH.
THEY ARE GOING TO PAY AND THAT'S 160 FOOT.
RICHARD WHAT? IT'S THE RICHARD ETHERIDGE.
IT'S THE 5TH TO THE 7TH OF MAY.
CORRECT. NOW, THAT'S NOT A GEODETIC SURVEY BOAT.
NO, IT'S A VERY SKINNY CUTTER.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A COAST GUARD BOAT THERE DURING SHRIMP FEST? THERE IS. SO THE PROBLEM SOLVED.
WHAT'S THAT? WE HAD ALL THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT GETTING SLEPT FOR ONE.
SORRY ALREADY. SHRIMP BOAT IS GOING TO BE A COAST GUARD BOAT.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. THAT WAS PRETTY SURE.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE JUST SAID.
THERE'S ALREADY A COAST GUARD SHIP IN THERE THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT UNTIL JUST NOW.
SO HERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GETTING ONE IN, AND THAT BOAT WAS ALREADY HERE DURING THE SHRIMP FEST.
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WE'LL SEE. ONE DOG CHASING ONE TAIL.OKAY? NOT THE COAST GUARD OR YOU GUYS, SO WE'RE NOT AWARE OF THAT.
SO HOPEFULLY MOST OF THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT IS OF, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET IN THE FUTURE IF THERE'S ANY SHIPS LIKE COAST GUARD CUTTERS OR ANYTHING.
LIKE SOMETIMES YOU HAVE SPECIAL ONES.
THAT'D BE KIND OF NEAT TO SEE.
WELL, IF YOU CAN KEEP TRACK OF ALL THAT TONIGHT, ARE WE.
MAKE THAT UP, MAN, OR ARE WE FINISHED NOW? I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING ELSE.
OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN SECOND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.
MARIAN, DO YOU NEED HELP WITH THE NOTES? MINUTES. GOOD LUCK.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.