Nov 15, 2022 Regular Meeting

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>> PLEASE TAKE A SEAT. THANK YOU.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

>> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR IF YOU WOULD LEAD US THROUGH THE PLEDGE AND THEN THE PROCLAMATION BY THE REVEREND BERNARD THOMPSON.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> LET US PRAY. OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD, WE HAVE COME TONIGHT WITH PRAISE AND ADORATION, THANK YOU FOR BEING GOD AND BESIDE YOU THERE IS NO OTHER.

WE THANK YOU TONIGHT FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS YOUR MANY BLESSINGS. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MULTITUDE OF TENDER MERCIES. WE INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE HERE IN THIS MEETING OF THE FERNANDINA BEACH CITY COMMISSION.

WE ASKED FOR LEADERSHIP, GUIDANCE, BLESSINGS, FOR ALL WHO PARTICIPATE, GOD BLESS FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA AND GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ALL OF GOD'S PEOPLE

SAID, AMEN. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT, CELL PHONES, IF YOU CAN PUT THEM ON AIRPLANE MODE OR SILENT, OR TURN THEM COMPLETELY OFF, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. COVID-19 AS YOU KNOW IS STILL HERE. IT IS NOT GOING AWAY.

[4.1 PROCLAMATION - TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE]

ITEM FOUR-POINT ONE PROCLAMATION.

>> WELCOME. HELLO.

>> WELCOME. >> IS THAT EVERYONE COME I THINK SO. PROCLAMATION, 13 YEARS AGO, MISS GWENDOLYN AND SMITH, A TRANSGENDER WOMAN FOUNDED TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE TO REMARK THAT MIGHT MEMORIALIZE THE MURDER OF A FELLOW TRANSGENDER WOMAN, MISS READER HESTER, WHO WAS KILLED DUE TO THE ANTI- TRANSGENDER HATRED AND PREJUDICE. LIKE MOST TRANSGENDER MURDER CASES, MS. HESTER'S DEATH HAS YET TO BE SOLVED.

TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE IS AN INTERNATIONAL DAY OF ACTION, OBSERVED IN OVER 185 CITIES.

AND MORE THAN 20 COUNTRIES. ALTHOUGH NOT EVERY PERSON REPRESENTED, SELF IDENTIFIES AS TRANSGENDER EACH HAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO VIOLENCE, BIAS AGAINST TRANSGENDER PEOPLE.

OVER THE LAST DECADE, MORE THAN ONE PERSON PER MONTH HAS DIED DUE TO TRANSGENDER -BASED HATE OR PREJUDICE.

TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE RAISES PUBLIC AWARENESS OF HATE CRIMES AGAINST TRANSGENDER PEOPLE, AND PUBLICLY MOURNS AND HONORS THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO MIGHT OTHERWISE BE FORGOTTEN.

THE DAY OF REMEMBRANCE REMINDS NON- TRANSGENDER PEOPLE THAT WE ARE THEIR SONS, DAUGHTERS, BROTHERS, SISTERS AND FRIENDS.

DAY OF REMEMBRANCE, PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO STEP FORWARD AND

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CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR THIS PROCLAMATION TODAY.

TRANSGENDER PEOPLE ARE DEEPLY IMPACTED BY RACISM, SEXISM AND TRANS- MOBILE. MOST OF THE PEOPLE KILLED IN THE SOUTH ARE AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAKING THEM TWICE AS VULNERABLE.

SINCE 2018 MORE THAN 160 TRANSGENDER AND NONCONFORMING INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE UNITED STATES, MANY IN FLORIDA. EVEN IN THE FACE OF THIS PHYSICAL DANGER HATRED AND MORE OVERCOME UNJUST BARRIERS IN ALL CORNERS OF OUR COUNTRY. IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO JUST SAY THIS WE MUST HONOR THEIR MEMORIES.

HAVING THE CITY DO THIS PROCLAMATION AND HAVING EVENTS LIKE OUR TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE WHICH WILL BE SUNDAY AT SAINT PETERS CHURCH WILL BE ONE WAY TO LET THE PEOPLE KNOW THERE IS RECOGNITION, ACCEPTANCE AND LOVE HERE FOR THEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ITEM FOUR-POINT TO AS A

[4.2 PRESENTATION - GATEWAY SIGN REFURBISHMENT]

ON THE PHONE. >> WELCOME SIR.

>> THANK YOU. >> I AM GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION AND THEN JEFF IS AVAILABLE.

I JUST WANT TO PREFACE THIS BY SAYING WE ARE IN THE PRELIMINARY STAGES OF REVIEWING CONCEPTS FOR THE GATEWAY SIGN AT EIGHTH AND ( INDISCERNIBLE ) STREET. WHAT DO YOU SEE IS THE INTERSECTION. WE WILL TALK ABOUT GENERAL CONCEPTS AND WORDING FOR THE SIGN AND OPTIONS FOR THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET. THIS CAME ABOUT IN CONVERSATION WITH JEREMIAH AND THIS HAD DETERIORATED AND COULD NO LONGER BE FIXED. WHAT IS REMAINING IS ONE SINGLE WALL. IT IS STILL STRUCTURALLY SOUND, WE ARE LOOKING AT USING THAT AS A BASE.

I WILL.OUT THAT IS NOT A COST-SAVING MEASURE, BUT MORE OF NOT MAKING A RADICAL CHANGE. MAINTAINING THE STRUCTURE AND BUILDING UPON IT. THE DESIGN COUNCIL FOR MAIN STREET HAS LOOKED AT SOME OF THESE CONCEPTS AND PREVIEWED THEM AND MADE COMMENTS THAT JEFF HAS BUILT INTO THE PRESENTATION.

THERE ARE TEN MEMBERS OF THE DESIGN COUNCIL.

WE HAVE TWO ARCHITECTS, ONE IN THE ROOM, ONE ENGINEER, AND FIVE

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, SO WE HAVE A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY LOOKED AT THIS.

THE GOAL WAS TO DO SOMETHING TRADITIONAL AND REFLECTIVE OF THE FERNANDINA BEACH HISTORY NOT A RADICAL CHANGE OR SOMETHING TRENDY. SOMETHING THAT WAS ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AND LOW TO NO MAINTENANCE COSTS MATERIALS. AND I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THIS HAS BEEN A COLLABORATION BETWEEN MAIN STREET, THE CITY AT THE COUNTY. BOTH FUNDS FOR THE DESIGN PORTION HAS COME THROUGH A PROGRAM THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2021. IT IS A GATEWAY SIGNAGE PROGRAM.

THE CORNER OF LIME AND EIGHTH STREET WAS PART OF THE PROGRAM.

WE ASKED THE COUNTY TO PULL OUT THAT FUNDING FOR THE DESIGN PORTION OF THIS. WE WERE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE COULD NOT WAIT TO HAVE IT REPLACED.

THAT IS HOW IT CAME ABOUT. IT HAS BEEN A NICE COLLABORATION. THEN MAIN STREET HAS BEEN LEADING THE DESIGN PROCESS, BUT THE FINAL APPROVAL WILL OBVIOUSLY RESTS WITH YOU. I AM GOING TO MOVE THROUGH THE SLIDES, AND TALK ABOUT THEM A LITTLE BIT.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, THIS IS A DIAGRAM OF THE INTERSECTION. YOU WILL SEE ABOUT BLACK SPACE ON THE EAST SIDE REPRESENTS THE CURRENT WALL.

WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPE.

EVERY DESIGN YOU SEE WILL INCLUDE THAT.

WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT AN EXPANDED FENCE.

WERE ALSO LOOKING AT POSSIBILITIES AND DIRECTION FROM YOU FOR THE WEBSITE. CURRENTLY IF YOU WILL REMEMBER THERE WAS A SIGN THERE THAT HAS BEEN PARTIALLY TAKEN DOWN.

AND THERE IS POWER THERE. SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE. WE ARE STARTING WITH A MESSAGE WELCOME TO FERNANDINA BEACH THAT IS STRAIGHTFORWARD.

WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT WE WILL PUT UNDERNEATH.

DO WE WANT THIS ABBREVIATED OR INCORPORATED.

THOSE ARE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN CONSIDER AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

WE ARE LOOKING HOW THIS CAN FIX THE SIGN.

HERE ARE, FOUR BASIC CONCEPTS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT.

THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU WILL SEE, THIS IS THE RELIEF WALL.

THIS IS A THREE-DIMENSIONAL WALL SO IT WOULD HAVE A DESIGN THAT WOULD REFLECT FERNANDINA'S HISTORY.

YOU CAN SEE THE LIGHT HOUSE AND THE FLAG SPIRIT THIS IS SORT OF A LOGO. THIS COULD ALSO BE ADDITIONAL ITEMS. I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A REAL-LIFE EXAMPLE OF THE SIGN SO YOU CAN VISUALIZE IT A LITTLE BETTER. THE SECOND ONE IS A TEXTURED WALL. THE BOTTOM LEFT IS A BASIC STUCCO WALL. THE BOTTOM RIGHT WOULD BE ANY -- EITHER BUSINESSMAN OR OR THAT ONE BUT SHOWING THE LOGO RATHER THAN THE WELCOME TO PIECE. JUST AN ALTERNATIVE DESIGN THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. THIS IS THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE. YOU CAN SEE HOW NICE WITH LANDSCAPE LIGHTING YOU CAN ACCENT THE WALL.

YOU WILL SEE THIS WITH THE RELIEF WALL.

IT CAN BE ANY NUMBER OF MATERIALS FOR THESE RAISED LETTERS. THIS HAS MULTIPLE ELEMENS IN THE DESIGN THIS HAPPENS TO BE TEXTURED STUCCO.

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WE CAN LOOK INTO ANY DESIGN THAT WE SIGN OFF ON THAT CAN BE DONE LIKE THIS. THIS COULD BE SUBJECT TO WHATEVER WE DETERMINE IT TO BE. WE ARE LOOKING AT TAKING THE CENTER WALL AND WE CAN PUT LATTICE OVER THE TOP.

THERE IS A DRIVEWAY IN THE BUILDING THERE.

THIS IS PART OF THE WEST -- WEST WING TOO.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE WEST SIDE.

IT WOULD GO ROUGHLY IN THE PLACE OF THE SMALL SIGN THAT WAS THERE. ONE OF THE FEATURES NOW IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PUT AN EVENT BANNER ON THE SIDE.

WE ARE LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT YOU FEEL THAT IS IMPORTANT TO STILL HAVE AN EVENT BANNER. WE WOULD HAVE A PERMANENT BANNER ON THE 3RD AND FOURTH POLES. WE WOULD HAVE ONE TO STAY THERE WHEN THERE WASN'T AN EVENT. THESE WOULD BE THE OPTIONS FOR THE WESTSIDE. HERE ARE SOME ROUGH EXAMPLES AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT TYPES. AT THIS POINT LOOKING FOR INPUT ON IT FOR -- IF THIS IS THE WEIGHT YOU WANT TO GO.

THE DESIGN GROUP INITIALLY LIKED THEM, AND THEN WAS HESITANT TO DO THAT. WE WANTED A REPLACEMENT FOR THE EVENT BANNER IF YOU FELT THAT WAS IMPORTANT.

THIS SHOWS WHAT THE SEAL WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE LEFT SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD. LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, IT COULD BE THE CITY SEAL. IT WOULD HAVE A SIMILAR LOOK.

BUT THIS PART COULD BE SMALLER. JUST IN CASE ANYBODY FORGOT.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW. THIS IS COMING DOWN THE RIGHT SIDE AND IT WOULD HAVE LATTICE AND ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING BEHIND IT. THAT IS THE PRESENTATION, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE NOW. WE ARE IN THE VERY PRELIMINARY STAGES. WE WANT TO GET A FEEL TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

>> COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> QUICK QUESTION THE PREVIOUS SIGN HAD A PLACE FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS THE ROTARY CLUB OF THE MASONS, IS THERE A THOUGHT TO HAVE IT REPLACED OR IS IT THE

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>> WE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT THAT.

THEY ARE RETAINED, THE CITY ASKED THEM.

WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN RID OF THEM. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE FINDING AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT COMING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION YOU HAVE TO -- YOU HAVE TO THINK DOES IT NARROW AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO MAKE A SLIGHT TURN.

WE REALLY WANTED TO KEEP EVERYTHING CLEAN.

AND NOT DISTRACT. SO THE THOUGHT WAS, THEY MAY BE BETTER SERVED ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.

>> I THINK ALL OF THE OPTIONS LOOK GOOD.

THE OVERALL ASPECT IMPROVES THAT CORNER.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT

GRANT -- PROJECT. >> THIS LOOKS TOO BOOZY TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE ENTERING A SUBDIVISION.

>> I THINK IT SHOULD BE TEXTURED AND THE SIGN SHOULD BE TEXTURED AND IF YOU PUT A SOLID, IF YOU PUT A SUBTLE FENCE THAT WENT UP TO THEIR AND AROUND AND IF HE CAME TO THE STREET, I SEE IN MY VISION IF WE ARE MAKING THIS WE SHOULD HAVE A BIG COLUMN NEXT TO THE SIDEWALK. WE COULD MOUNT A BANNER, INSTEAD OF HAVING IT AT THE END, WE COULD HAVE A BANNER AND IF YOU ARE ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, NOT TO BE ON THAT SIDE.

I THINK YOU PUT TOO MUCH IN THERE.

I THINK MAYBE A BOAT WOULD LOOK GOOD.

AND TRY TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAN WITH LANDSCAPING AND VEGETATION ON THE OTHER SIDE I WOULD PUT THE CITY LET'S GO.

ANY TIME YOU CAN USE THE CITY LET'S GO, EVEN IF WE HAD THE LOGO OF THE LIGHT. YOU COULD HAVE A LOWER WALL AND SET OF THEM IN A SQUARE, ALMOST TUBEROSE MOVING DOWN ALSO IF YOU WANT TO KILL SOME OF THE VIEW WE CAN PUT THIS BEHIND IT.

ALL YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IS PUT A LITTLE BLEACH ON IT EVERY SIX MONTHS AND THE CITY WORKERS CLEAN IT OFF SO IT STAYS CLEAN.

EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE LANDSCAPED ACCORDINGLY, JUST AN IDEA YOU HAVE A GOOD IDEA ABOUT THE SIGN BUT.

>> ONE OF THE THOUGHTS WAS PLACING COLUMNS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE SIGN. AND WE WERE VERY MINDFUL OF NOT LOOKING RESORT LIKE. WE WEREN'T TRYING TO STAY

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>> I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON SIGNS.

AND THE RAISED LETTERS, THEY LAST A LONG TIME AS WELL.

THOSE ARE GOOD OPTIONS BECAUSE WHEN YOU START PUTTING ANYTHING OUT THERE THAT ISN'T CARVED, YOU CAN BANK YOU HAVE 10-15 YEARS

AND YOU WILL DO IT AGAIN. >> THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.

>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. >> VICE MAYOR,.

>> THOSE ARE GOOD IDEAS. >> I DON'T LIKE THE SIGN.

I THINK THE LATTICE THEY JUST ATTRACT SPIRIT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ACROSS THE STREET MAYBE A SIGN.

IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE. MY SECOND QUESTION IS, WHENEVER THIS COMES UP, WELCOME TO FERNANDINA BEACH IS FINE.

THAT JUST LOOKS STERILE. ARE WE GOING TO INVOLVE THE

COMMUNITY IN THIS DECISION. >> LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD REPRESENTATION CONTENTIOUSNESS THE OPPORTUNITY

-- >> I THINK A SERIES OF THESE AS WE GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY.

I AM NOT SURE IT WARRANTS A SEPARATE EVENT.

I THINK IF WE HAD BRICK COLUMNS, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS SHOULD BE SUCH A BIG ISSUE. THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW'S PIECE -- MAYBE THIS COULD HELP YOU OUT AND I COULD BE USEFUL.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS, ANY THOUGHTS?

>> HOW CAN I COMPETE WITH THAT. I'M SPEECHLESS.

>> AREN'T YOU GOING TO NEW ORLEANS SOON I THINK CLEAN AND SIMPLE, SIMPLER THE BETTER CLEANER THE BETTER.

>> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I

GOT A FEW THINGS STRAIGHT. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

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>> CAN'T YOU GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST SLIDE?

>> THE CITY SHOULD BE REPRESENTED BY CLEAN, SIMPLE, I'M NOT A FAN OF THE LATTICE. BUT CLEAN AND SIMPLE, THAT SAYS IT ALL. GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND BRINGING THIS TO US.

WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP? >> THE NEXT STEP, JEFF HAS YOUR COMMENTS BUT I WILL SHARE MY NOTES AS WELL.

HAVE HIM REDRAFT SOME DRAWINGS. WE WILL RUN IT BY OUR DESIGN COUNCIL AND GIVE THEM AN UPDATE AND LET THEM KNOW WHERE WE ARE, AND SEE WHAT COMES BACK AND I WILL PROBABLY BE HERE AGAIN.

MAYBE I WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE WHEN I DO MY NEXT

PRESENTATION IN JANUARY. >> AND LISA, WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE FOR US TO PROVE SOMETHING WHAT DOES THAT LOOK

LIKE, JANUARY, FEBRUARY -- >> I'M GOING TO DEFER BECAUSE THIS HAS BECOME A PROBLEM. THE SIGN IN ITSELF HAS BECOME A PROBLEM. IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD RIGHT NOW.

ON EITHER SIDE. WE HAVE TO EMPTY COLUMNS, AND WE HAVE MISSING PARTS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MOVE THIS THROUGH ACTS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS?

>> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU CHAPTER.

[4.3 PRESENTATION - PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT ]

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT FOR .3 PRESENTATION. PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR CATHERINE VORRASI. THAT I SAY THAT RIGHT QUICKSAND YOU DID. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

YES I AM CATHERINE VORRASI YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS, I KEEP GETTING ASKED WHAT IS MY VISION FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

I CAN'T REALLY PROVIDE THAT UNTIL I GET TO KNOW THE COMMUNITY. WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO IS LAUNCH A TWO-MONTH CAMPAIGN. WE LAUNCHED IT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO. I PUT SOME FLYERS IN THE BACK AND I HAVE SOME IN FRONT OF YOU. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON. I WANT TO POINT OUT, WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEET AND GREET FORUMS. WE HAVE ONE BEING HELD AT MARTIN LUTHER KING CENTER, THE ATLANTIC REC CENTER, AND THIS FIRE YOU HAVE. WE WILL BE POSTING THEM ONLINE AS WELL. WE ALSO HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES DURING THE DAY. WE HAVE A COFFEE AND CONVERSATION. IT WILL BE DOWNTOWN.

JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO GATHER INFORMATION. AND BASICALLY FIVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. ALSO PROVIDED IN THE BACK, THIS PLAYS A BIG ROLE. ALSO THE RECREATION CENTERS.

BASICALLY THE AREAS WHERE SPORTS ARE HELD.

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THIS IS FOR ALL AGES. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN FOR THOSE WHO USE THE FACILITIES THEY WERE INVITED TO THE FORMS AND I WILL BE SPEAKING AT DIFFERENT ADVISORY BOARD SPIRIT WE ARE TRYING TO GET ME IN FRONT OF EVERYONE AND GATHERING INPUT.

WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO PLEASE GIVE US YOUR INPUT.

WE DO HAVE AN ONLINE SURVEY IT IS FIVE CATEGORIES AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE FEEDBACK. WOMEN E-MAIL ADDRESS IT IS CALLED WE ARE LISTENING. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE NEWS LEADER. OUR DEPARTMENT IS ON THE FRONT PAGE. JUST GETTING THE WORD OUT WE ARE TRYING TO GATHER INPUT. WHICH IS TRYING TO GET READY FOR

THE SESSION IN JANUARY. >> WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THE PROGRAMS ARE. THESE ARE INCLUDED IN THAT BUT IT IS PROGRAMMING AND --

>> THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS EFFORT, WE APPRECIATE YOU.

[4.4 BUDGET SUMMARY]

>> THE BUDGET SUMMARY. >> THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND DEBT FOR .6% OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET THIS IS DUE TO THE TIMING OF THE PROPERTY TAX RECEIPTS. OVERALL THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSES THEY ARE BELOW. FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND THE DEBT PAYMENT WAS MADE FOR THE TRUCK.

THE GOLF COURSE IN THE MARINA FUND THE TRANSFERRED DEFICIT BALANCE WAS RECORDED IN OCTOBER. THE REVENUES EXCEEDED EXPENSES EXCEPT FOR AS WAS ANTICIPATED IN THE BUDGET THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

>> COMMISSIONERS, NO QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE IT. >> ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

PUBLIC COMMENT NOT ON THE AGENDA.

AND I HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS. >> SO THIS IS THIS IS A VERY NICE CRUISE LINE. I HAVE TAKEN A COUPLE OF CRUISES ON THEM THEY ARE HIGH END AND NO KIDS.

IMAGINE MY SURPRISE, WHEN I OPENED IT UP AND I SAW FERNANDINA BEACH IS A PORT OF CALL FOR TWO CRUISES.

AND THE SPRING OF 2025. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS OR WHAT YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT, BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHY WE WOULD BE IN A MAGAZINE FOR A HIGH-END CRUISE LINE.

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SO IF THE PORT IS GOING TO PUT IN A CRUISE TERMINAL AND BRING IN THESE SHIPS, YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHEN PEOPLE GET OFF AND WHERE WILL THE BUSES LINED UP AND WHERE WILL THE PEOPLE GO AND HOW WILL YOU MANAGE THAT ON THE STREET. I THOUGHT I WOULD BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I HAVE SEEN THAT.

I FILED A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST ASKING IF THEY HAD ANY COMMUNICATION. AND THEY CAME FORWARD AND THEY HAVE ALL SAID, THEY HAVE NO COMMUNICATION OR CONCERNS ABOUT

THIS. >> IT WOULD BE NICE TO CALL

OCEANA. >> ACTUALLY I TRIED TO DO THAT THIS MORNING ACTUALLY IT'S NORWEGIAN CRUISE LINES.

IF YOU COULD FIND ME A NUMBER TO CALL, I'VE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHO I CAN CALL I KNEW ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO PUT OUT THERE TO WATCH WHAT IS GOING ON.

THIS COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.

AND IT APPEARS THERE WE ARE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS YOUR LIGHT

IS ON. >> SOMEBODY STOLE MY ON-AND-OFF

THING. >> ALL RIGHT I HAVE THREE SPEAKERS ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

>> I HOPE I SAID YOUR NAME CORRECTLY.

>> WELCOME. >> THANK YOU MA'AM.

>> I'VE ALREADY READ THIS. >> SO I LIVE AT 406 BEECH STREET. I AM CATTY CORNER TO THE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS THE THIRD STREET IN THE TOWNHOME PROJECT. IM COMING BEFORE YOU TO FIND OUT WHAT THE CITY IS NOT FOLLOWING ITS OWN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

IF YOU READ THIS SECTION I WILL NOT READ IT VERBATIM INSETS IF A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE OR DWELLING EXISTS ON A PROPERTY THAT YOU CANNOT TEAR IT DOWN AND PUT UP SEVERAL STRUCTURES UNLESS IT GOES THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO BE HEARD PRIOR TO IT BE DECIDED.

RIGHT NOW IT IS GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND THEN THE CITY COMMISSION. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS NOT BEING ENFORCED. AND I JUST SERVED THE CITY IS INTERPRETING THIS RULE DIFFERENT THAN IT STATES IN PLAIN ENGLISH RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY TO KEEP INTERPRETING IT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE RIFFS FROM NEIGHBORS OR NEIGHBORS IF YOU'RE NOT ENFORCING CORRECTLY.

I WOULD SAY YOU SHOULD GET A THIRD PARTY AND SEE IF YOU NEED TO ENFORCE IT. SOMEONE IT WAS NEVER BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CITY CODE. SOMEONE WITH A SEPARATE SET OF EYES. WE ALSO HEARD WE HAVE TO ALLOW ALL OF THESE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE OF THE BURKE/HARRIS ACT. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT SAID YOU CAN'T DO THIS. THE ONLY REASON IT IS AN ISSUE

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JUST YESTERDAY, BUT LOT 150 LOT WENT ON THE MARKET AND IT IS BEING ADVERTISED ON THE REALTOR SITE AS HAVING SEVEN LOTS ON IT.

I SPOKE TO THE REALTOR AND THEY SAID THEY WERE GETTING THE INFORMATION FROM THIS GROUP. FAST FORWARD, FOURTH STREET WILL TURN INTO ALL OF THESE TOWNHOME SPIRIT IF YOU ARE GOING TO LET PEOPLE TEAR DOWN A SINGLE STRUCTURE AND PUT UP MORE IF YOU ARE NOT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN IT WILL CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF OUR TOWN. NOTHING WRONG WITH TOWNHOUSES, PEOPLE LOVE IT. BUT I JUST DON'T THINK IT FITTING IN WITH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT HOMES ACROSS FROM THEM FOR 50 YEARS. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.

>> VICE MAYOR. >> I WILL WAIT FOR THE OTHER

SPEAKERS. >> I BELIEVE WHEN THE CITY ATTORNEY MAKES A REPORT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THIS AT LENGTH.

CITY ATTORNEY? >> I WILL DO IT THE NEXT TWO

SPEAKERS. >> ELIZABETH?

>> GOOD EVENING. MY ADDRESS IS 95520 AND FERNANDINA. I AM A LAND USE AND ZONING LAWYER. I WASN'T PLANNING TO BE HERE TONIGHT I CALLED TO THE DEPARTMENT TO ASK FOR AN APPLICATION THAT I FILED. I LEARNED THIS TOPIC WOULD BE DISCUSSED. I WASN'T PLANNING TO BE HERE.

I JUST LEARN ABOUT THIS THROUGH HAPPENSTANCE.

HOPEFULLY THERE CAN BE PUBLIC HEARINGS IF THEY DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD I HAVE HAD THESE IN THE CITY TWO.

THE INTERPRETATION AND JUST STAND IS DIFFERENT FROM HOW IT IS DONE IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. HOW THIS IS THIS IS THE IMPLICATION. DENSITY IS NOT A DIRTY WORD.

VINCE'S OBJECTIVE WHERE IT DIRECTS THE CITY TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT OF UNDEVELOPED AREAS.

AND TO SUPPORT THIS POLICY, THE CITY CAN OFFER INCENTIVES AND INTENSITY BONUSES. THIS WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY AFTER THE CITY'S ABILITY TO MEET THESE OBJECTIVES.

THIS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

OLD CHILD, EVEN BEFORE THEN. THERE'S BEEN NO.WHERE IT HAS

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>> COMMISSIONER ROSS HAS A QUESTION.

>> I AM CONCERNED GIVEN THE TENURE OF THE DISCUSSION.

>> DAVID ( INDISCERNIBLE ) I'M NOT AGAINST DENSITY, THIS LAW THIS SHOWS WHY. I AM REALLY CONCERNED BECAUSE I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO IT AND I HAVE 14 YEARS.

IT SAYS IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN OPEN SPACE, AND VISUAL ATTRACTIVENESS OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WHEREVER THERE MAY EXIST, WHICH WAS CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY CONTAINING ONE OR MORE PLATTED LOTS. THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE ONE BUILDING SITE. I DON'T SEE HOW YOU HAVE TO INTERPRET THAT BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS IT WILL CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE'S ANOTHER LOT, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING.

THIS THIS IS EVEN MEET THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS.

>> NEXT. >> 116 SOUTH FOURTH STREET.

I AM ALSO HERE ABOUT THE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) PROPERTY.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, I HAVE LIVED THERE MY WHOLE LIFE WHICH IS 30 YEARS PLUS. MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED ON THAT PROPERTY WERE FIVE PEOPLE WITH A TOTAL OF FOUR CARS.

I KNOW WITH THE PROPOSED TOWNHOMES LITERALLY ON MY PORCH, WHEN YOU BUILD THOSE TOWNHOMES IT IS AFFECTING THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, MY PART OF THE DISTRICT.

AND IT ALSO PROVIDES A DEFINITION FOR THE DENSITY.

IT SAYS A MIXTURE OF STRUCTURES. IT DOES NOT SAY CONTINUOUS, CONTINGENT, TOWNHOME SPIRIT MULTIFAMILY UNIT, MULTI FAMILY UNIT. BACK TO THE ONE YOU WERE SAYING, THAT IS JEOPARDIZING, WHAT YOU SEE, IT IS JEOPARDIZING THE LOOK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS ATROCIOUS.LL I HAVE TO SA.

>> ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, SCENE NINE, PUBLIC

COMMENT IS GOALS BEST BUY CLOSE. >> IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY

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TO ME, THIS IS VERY BLACK AND WHITE.

WE ARE NOT COMPLYING WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THIS HAS HAPPENED ON PREVIOUS OCCASIONS, AND THE ATTORNEY TALKED ABOUT, THIS IS THE CODE.

IT IS THE EXISTING CODE. IT IS REALLY BLACK AND WHITE.

WHY ARE WE NOT DOING IT. THIS WAS NOT THERE.

I JUST SAY, IF THEY WANT TO LOOK AT THE CODE, WE DON'T IGNORE IT.

THERE'S NO QUESTION. >> AT LEAST THE PLANNING DIRECTOR DOESN'T AGREE IT IS BLACK AND WHITE.

I DON'T LOOK AT THESE APPLICATIONS, BUT I HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHEN CITY STAFF COMES TO DETERMINE, THE STAFF REPORT THAT THEY ARE DISCUSSING.

THIS APPLICATION, AND PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS, THEY STILL ON THE SECTORS YOU ARE DISCUSSING.

CITY STAFF HAS INTERPRETED SOME EXISTING STRUCTURES, AND THE UNDERLYING -- UNDERLYING RECORD, -- RESTORE THE RECORD, THE APPLICANT DID NOT WANT TO DO THAT, THEY DIDN'T WANT 20 UNITS OR THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE RECORD, AND WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE IN OTHER CASES, AND I HAVE NOT FOUND ANY CASES WHERE YOU HAVE PLAN AND ALL OF THOSE APPLICATIONS GO TO LAND DEVELOPMENT.

I WOULD BE SURPRISED. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, WHERE WE HAVE A RECORD AND AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE ARE SEEING 3-4 TOWNHOUSES GO UP.

THEY HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 2011. FIFTEEN VARIANT REQUESTS FOR THE SAME SECTION. TWELVE OF THEM WERE APPROVED,

[01:00:02]

IN THIS SCENARIO WHERE THE OWNER IS NOT TRYING TO RESTORE BOOK CREATE BRAND-NEW PLOTS, THOSE APPLICATIONS HAVE GONE TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. IN THE END, OTHER THAN THE VARIANCE CRITERIA, THE PLAT PROCESS HAS THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE AFFECTED PARTIES GET TO SPEAK AS LONG AS THEY WANT. THEY CAN SAY I DON'T NEED TO BE FUNNY THIS DOES NOT NEED TO BE INTERPRETED THIS WAY.

STAFF IS A PARTY, AND YOU GET TO DO THAT.

IT IS A VERY -- VERY NARROW LOOK AND ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR AN APPLICANT TO PROVE A HARDSHIP. I'M NOT SAYING THESE WERE ALL GOOD THINGS. BUT IT DOES MEET OUR CODE.

THE ISLAND VIEW SUBDIVISION AND ONE MORE WE LOOKED UP AND WENT THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS. AND START APPLYING THE CODE DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE YOU COULD BE SUBJECT TO A LEGAL CHALLENGE.

MY JOB IS TO PROTECT THE CITY FROM THAT.

IN THE END, WE NEED TO CHANGE THE CODE OR CLARIFY THE CODE.

MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THE PROCESSES.

AND THIS IS BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC THAN GOING THROUGH THE VARIANCE PROCESS.

QUASIJUDICIAL. HAVING A HEARING, I WILL AT THAT POINT REPRESENT SO I'VE BEEN INTERPRETED THAT.

THAT IS HOW WILL WE PREFER. BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY WE HAVE DONE IT. NOT A BRAND-NEW SUBDIVISION.

RIGHT OR WRONG YOU THIS IS BY THE RAILROAD COMPANY.

THESE ARE THE LOTS HE ENVISIONED WHEN HE MADE FERNANDINA COUNTY.

>> THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. WE WANT TO BE POTENTIALLY, -- TO BE THE JUDGES IN THIS CASE. WHOEVER STARTS TALKING HERE, IT WILL BECOME WHETHER YOU ARE BIASED OR NOT, OR CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY BECAUSE A JUDGE NEEDS TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND HEAR ALL OF THE EVIDENCE IN A CASE. WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL, -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, BUT I AM JUST SAYING BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY YOU HAVE TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND AS THE JUDGE. NO JUDGE WOULD BE GETTING UP AND ASKING QUESTIONS IN AN OPEN HEARING LIKE THIS PRIOR TO HEARING A CASE. SO I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT KEEPING IT BECAUSE YOU WILL BE CHALLENGED FOR YOUR PARTIALITY IF YOU GET CHALLENGE. I WOULD MIND EXPANDING ON THAT

MORE. >> IF YOU SAY THAT BEFORE ANY

[01:05:06]

IF YOU SHOW WHERE YOU LAND ON THIS IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIKE OR DON'T LIKE, THAT CAN BE USED IN AN APPEAL.

THAT YOU ARE BIASED AND NOT YOU SPECIFICALLY BUT ANY MEMBER.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. >> FURTHER QUESTION.

AM I ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT IS MY JOB TO GET INFORMATION FOR THE BOARD.

>> YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS. >> I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND,

THESE ARE ORIGINAL BOTS. >> AND THESE LOTS, ARE ALL COVERED. THERE ARE FIVE BUILDINGS ON THEIR, THEY DON'T COVER THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

THOSE WOULD COVER THIS SPIRIT THAT IS WHAT THIS WHOLE DEBATE IS ABOUT BUT THERE ARE LOTS THAT WOULD NOT BE COVERED AT ALL.

AND HOW MANY LOTS ARE THOSE? >> THERE WOULD BE POTENTIALLY, 11 UNITS WITHOUT ANY VARIANCE WITHOUT ANY PLANNING, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT OTHER UNITS ON THE SITE.

THIS COULD BE USED AS A BUILDING SITE THAT HAS NEVER BEEN BUILT ON BUT UNDER THE CURRENT CODE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE BUILT ON.

>> OKAY, I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONERS BUT CAUTION THAT YOU DON'T OFFER OPINIONS, IF YOU START ISSUING AN OPINION YOU WILL BE OUT OF ORDER BECAUSE YOU ARE JEOPARDIZING THE

QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING. >> YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IMPARTIAL. AND WITH REGARDS TO VICE MAYOR KREGER, HE KNOWS. WE KNOW HOW HE FEELS.

>> WITH THAT, WITH THAT ADVICE, COMMISSIONER STURGIS.

>> I WILL ONLY ASK A FEW QUESTIONS AND I WILL KEEP IT G RATED. SO, TAMMI, THE ZONING IS OUT IN

THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT? >> NO IT'S NOT.

>> THE OVERLAY IS NOT PART OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT?

>> IT IS NOT. >> IT HAS TWO SEPARATE DISTRICTS? WHICH ARE BOTH COMMERCIAL ZONING

>> EIGHT UNITS EIGHT INCHES PER ACRE -- MRN ABOUT THAT BUT WITH MIXED USE YOU ARE ALLOWED A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL BUT NOT FOR SPIRIT.

>> THAT IS COMMERCIAL PER SE. >>

>> >> THIS IS JUST GOING TO YOUR QUESTION. IT IS ONE-SIDED.

THIS IS AN AREA THAT IF YOU COMBINED THE WHOLE THING IT WILL

BE LIKE THIS. >> ONE IS NOT BIGGER THAN THE

OTHER. >> BECAUSE THE PARCELS THEMSELVES, ONLY CONTAIN ONE ZONING CATEGORY THAT IS THE REASON. WHEN WE DO APPLY, WE MEASURE WHICH ZONING TAKES OVER MORE SPACE.

>> IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? >> YOU ARE ON.

>> >> I WILL TELL YOU THIS.

[01:10:01]

IT IS QUASIJUDICIAL, THERE ARE CONDITIONS.

THOSE THINGS ARE ALL POSSIBILITIES.

SO TO THE CITY STAFF, AND THIS HAS BEEN MORE THAN 20 YEARS.

THE PLAT PROCESS FOR THIS MANY PARCELS IS HALF A BLOCK BUT STILL BIG FOR REDEVELOPMENT. THE BEST THING, THE PROCESS YOU DON'T GET IF THAT DEVELOPER PUTS 11 UNITS IN THERE.

ELEVEN UNITS. TOWNHOUSES, WHATEVER THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO. THE PLANNING PROCESS ALLOWS FOR THE CITY TO REQUIRE IN THE SITE PLAN ENHANCED STORMWATER, NOT JUST KEEPING IT OFF OF YOUR NEIGHBORS PROPERTY BUT HOW IT WILL FUNCTION AND WHAT IT WILL BE, SIDEWALKS AND STREET LIGHTS IF THEY ARE APPROPRIATE. ALL OF THOSE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE REQUIRED. AND IN THE SECTION WHICH IS IN CHAPTER 11 IT TALKS ABOUT WE WOULD GET TO THE PROCESS, ANY TIME SOMEONE WANTS THREE OR MORE RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO BE CREATED.

I AM SORRY IF SOMEONE DOESN'T AGREE WITH THAT.

>> VICE MAYOR. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR.

MY WHOLE POINT IS WE DON'T COMPLY WITH THE CODE SPIRIT.

>> THAT IS MY POINT. SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE SOMEONE DECIDED WE WOULD DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, THAT IS MY POINT.

IT APPLIES OVERALL. THAT IS WHAT THE CODE SAYS IN BLACK-AND-WHITE. AND IN IS JUST NOT LOGICAL THAT WE DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND WE SAY IT IS CORRECT.

THAT'S THE WAY WE DID IT. I'M JUST MAKING MY POINT.

I'M NOT BIASED, I'M JUST MAKING MY POINT.

>> THIS ISSUE IS GOING BEFORE YOU WENT.

>> WE DO NOT HAVE A RESCHEDULED DATE.

WE WERE LOOKING AT THE NOVEMBER 30 DATE SO WE WILL LET YOU KNOW AS SOON AS WE CAN POTENIALLY WILL MEET IN

DECEMBER? >> WILL YOU TRY TO GET IT IN

DECEMBER? >> THAT WILL BE THE LATEST IF NOT BEFORE HAND. AND IT WILL NOT BE ON THANKSGIVING POTENTIAL THIS IS UNLIKELY TO BECOME BEFORE THE SPORT BEFORE JANUARY AT THE EARLIEST.

SO FOR THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE HERE, THAT IS THE PROGRESSION OF THIS ISSUE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS?

>> NOT UNLESS SOMEBODY INTERFERES LEGALLY.

>> YES. >> OKAY.

[6.1 AWARD OF RFP 22-05 - HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN ]

[01:15:33]

DETAIL. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

DO I HAVE A SECOND PICK. >> OF A MOTION IN THE SECOND.

I WILL SUPPORT THIS BUT IN THE WORKSHOP I WILL REMIND EVERYONE THE DISCUSSION WE HAD. MY BIGGEST THING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT OUR ON BEACH PARKING.

AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THIS PLANT WON'T AFFECT THE PARKING.

FOR THAT REASON I WILL VOTE YES. AGAIN, I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS.

>> THE CITY BEACH PROVIDES A CRITICAL HABITAT FOR NOT ONE, NOT TWO BUT THREE ENDANGERED TURTLES THAT IS OUR CRITICAL HABITAT. SIMPLY PUT THIS PLAN WILL PROVIDE A WAY TO AVOID AND MINIMIZE DESTRUCTION OF THE CITIES HABITAT BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE CRITTERS AND ALLOWS SEA TURTLES AND BIRDS TO EXIST.

AND I WILL BE VOTING FOR THIS. >> THANK YOU SIR.

ANYONE ELSE. COMMISSIONER STURGIS.

>> I'M STRAPPED TO MAKE A BRIEF STATEMENT.

I AM ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF BEACH PARKING.

IF THIS CAME BACK TO DO AWAY WITH BEACH PARKING I WOULD VOTE AGAINST IT. IM ASSUMING WITH GLENN'S CONSIDERATION IT IS A HARMONIZATION BETWEEN THE HUMANS AND THE ANIMALS AND WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THE ANIMALS SURVIVE ESPECIALLY THE ENDANGERED SPECIES.

WITH THAT I WILL BE VOTING FOR THIS.

>> ANYONE ELSE? MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> (ROLL CALL).

[6.2 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - WEATHERPROOFING TECHNOLOGIES, INC.]

>> THE MOTION PASSES 5-0. SIX-POINT TO PROPOSAL APPROVAL,

WEATHERPROOFING TECHNOLOGIES. >> GOOD EVENING.

I'M THE OPERATIONS DIRECTOR IN FRONT OF YOU IS ROOF RESTORATION PROJECT AND IT IS LOCATED, THIS IS A RESTORATION PROJECT.

AND STEP SIX APPROVAL. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> 'S SECOND PERIOD. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. (ROLL CALL).

[6.3 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - WEATHERPROOFING TECHNOLOGIES, INC]

>> THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. SIX-POINT THREE PROPOSAL APPROVAL WEATHERPROOFING TECHNOLOGIES.

>> ANOTHER WRITTEN PROJECT THIS IS FOR A ROOF RESTORATION PROJECT AT THE UTILITY BUILDING LOCATED ON SOUTH FIFTH STREET.

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL ROOF ON THIS FACILITY AT THIS IS A RESTORATION PROCESS JUST UNDER $40,000.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION, SEEING NONE, MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. (ROLL CALL).

[6.4 SINGLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL - JOHNSTONE SUPPLY]

>> THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. ITEM 6.4 SINGLE SOURCE VENDOR

APPROVAL OF JOHNSTONE SUPPLY. >> OKAY THIS IS A SINGLE SOURCE VENDOR THAT WE USE, IT IS A DISTRIBUTOR FOR THE PURCHASE OF GOODMAN AND RELATED COMPONENTS. WE HAVE 150 AIR-CONDITIONERS THAT WE USE AND THIS IS THE DEALER FOR THE TWO BRANDS AND WE ARE GETTING READY TO PURCHASE THOSE AND WE WILL RECEIVE THE AUTHORITY LIMIT THAT STAFF HAS ALLOTTED.

THIS IS FOR APPROVAL TO GO ABOVE THAT AMOUNT.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION. I SEE NONE.

MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

(ROLL CALL). >> IT PASSES 5-0.

[6.5 SINGLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL - CARRIER ENTERPRISE, LLC]

[01:20:07]

ENTERPRISES. >> IS THE RESOLUTION FOR SINGLE SOURCE CARRIERE. AND IT IS USED PRIMARILY FOR ROOF TOPPING ON A NUMBER OF OUR BUILDINGS.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

SEEING NONE. >> THE MOTION PASSES 5-0.

[6.6 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION PETITION FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES - 2884 S. 8TH STREET ]

2884 SOUTH EIGHTH STREET. >> JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THIS IS, THIS IS JUST THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE AGREEMENT FOR, WATER AND SEWER SERVICE.

THIS BUILDING IS THE ONE-STORY BUILDING, IF YOU ARE DRIVING TOWARDS THE BRIDGE, BEFORE YOU GET TO ACE HARDWARE.

IT IS PAINTED WHITE NOW. THAT IS THE ADDRESS.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR UTILITIES AND THEY HAVE TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT. RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> I HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE. MADAME CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> THE MOTION PASSES 5-0.

[6.7 SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL - STRYKER CORPORATION]

>> GOOD EVENING. THE RESOLUTION YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THROUGH STRYKER CORPORATION IS OVER SOLE-SOURCE VENDOR FOR OUR LIKE PACKS EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATORS, STRETCHERS, CHAIRS AND CHEST COMPRESSION SYSTEMS THAT WE USE ALSO THERE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT TO SERVICE THAT EQUIPMENT.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. 102ND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

(ROLL CALL). >> THE MOTION PASSES 5-0.

[6.8 BLACKWATER CONSTRUCTION SERVICES - CHANGE ORDER #7]

>> SIX-POINT EIGHT, BLACKWATER CONSTRUCTION SERVICES CHANGE

ORDER NUMBER SEVEN. >> CHARLIE GEORGE THE ENGINEERED THIS IS RESOLUTION 2022 -- 206 APPROVING CHANGE ORDER FOR THE FIRE STATION. IT IS RELATING TO MATERIALS THAT ARE PART OF THE AIR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, THE DUCTWORK AND THE PIPING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS COULD NOT BE ORDERED UNTIL THE EQUIPMENT IT WAS ATTACHED TO WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY AND IN THAT TIME THE CONTRACT AWARD HAD AN INCREASE.

WITH THAT THIS IS STILL $200,000 UNDER CONTRACT.

>> THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE INCLUDING THE CHANGE OBJECT -- WATER, THAT'S IT THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY.

>> HEARING NO OTHER DISCUSSION MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. THE MOTION PASSES 5-0.

[6.9 SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE APPROVAL - BARNEY'S PUMPS INC.]

>> SIX-POINT NINE SOLE-SOURCE PURCHASE APPROVAL, BARNEY'S

PUMPS. >> HELLO I'M THE UTILITY ENGINEER. FOR RESOLUTION 2022, THIS IS THE REPLACEMENT PUMP FOR 63,0009 AND $57.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THIS.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION, SEE NONE, MADAME CLERK, MR. ROSS

[01:25:02]

JEFF SOMETHING? >> I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU DID A NICE JOB PRESENTING. I KNOW YOU WERE A LITTLE

NERVOUS. >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

(ROLL CALL). >> THE MOTION PASSES 5-0.

[7.1 PAY AND CLASSIFICATION PLAN]

PAY AND CLASSIFICATION CLAIM. >> ORDINANCE 2022 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY AMENDING THE PAY CLASSIFICATION PLAN ASSESSED BY ORDINANCE 22208 PURSUANT TO CHART A SECTION 30 AND CODE OF ORDINANCES SECTION 62 -- 247 PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY AND

PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. >> APT OPENED THE PUBLIC

HEARING. >> IT'S FIRST READING.

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND., ANY DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE. MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. SEEING NONE.

[7.2 CODE AMENDMENT - GROUP INSURANCE]

>> AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY AMENDING CHAPTER 62, ARTICLE FIVE GROUP INSURANCE FOR CITY OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, SECTION 62 -- 161 AND 62 -- 162 BY REMOVING COMMISSIONERS AS ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE GROUP INSURANCE BENEFITS, AMENDING SECTION 62 -- 162 PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR

AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> THIS IS LIKE JEOPARDY. >> COMMISSIONER STURGIS.

>> I JUST COULD NOT BE REMISS AND TAKING A BRIEF MOMENT TO SAY HOW IRONIC IT IS THAT WE ARE GIVING PAY RAISES TO THE UPPER STAFF AND WE ARE STRIPPING THE CITY COMMISSIONERS OVATE 10000-$12,000 PER YEAR BENEFIT. I THINK THAT IS IRONIC AND I WILL VOTE NO EVEN THOUGH I MAY NOT BE THE MAJORITY.

I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

WHETHER EVERYONE WANTS TO PLAY AROUND AND NOT TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF NOT GETTING REELECTED OR DISAPPOINT OTHERS, I THINK IT IS SUPER IRONIC THAT WE ARE DRIVING THIS NEIL HOME. NOT JUST TAKING THE BENEFIT AWAY, BUT SURELY, THE ORDINANCE TO DRIVE IT HOME.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> COMMISSIONER BEAN.

>> HAVE A QUESTION. MUCH DOES THIS SAVED BY CUTTING

COMMISSIONER LIFE INSURANCE? >> ABOUT $44,000 ANNUALLY.

>> VICE MAYOR. >> I NEVER RECEIVED THIS BENEFIT. I SEE YOUR POINT, WHAT I THINK IS APPROPRIATE WOULD BE TO LOOK AT A PAY RAISE ACROSS THE BOARD.

IT APPLIES TO EVERYONE. WE ARE LUCKY WE DID NOT NEED IT.

BUT I CERTAINLY THINK A PAY RAISE WOULD BE GOOD.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DO THAT BEFORE I LEAVE.

BUT, -- >> I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE

RAISE. >> I WOULD GO UP TO $20,000 PER YEAR. I THINK THAT IS MORE THAN FAIR.

JUST PUT THAT IN THERE. >> YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON PAY

RAISES. >> I THINK IT IS WORTH PUTTING THAT IN THERE. I RESPECT WHAT YOU HAVE SAID AS FAR AS MEDICAL. IT IS CRAZY.

THIS IS A FULL-TIME JOB. MY RECOMMENDATION IS YOU INCREASE THE PAY FOR COMMISSIONERS, $20,000 PER YEAR

END PUT IT IN THE NEXT MEETING. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> SINCE I AM RUNNING FOR REELECTION, AS COMMISSIONER

[01:30:04]

BUT AGAIN IT IS UP TO THE NEW COMMISSION TO LOOK AT COMPENSATION OF OTHER GOVERNMENT BOARDS, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE NEW MAYOR AND THE NEW COMMISSION WOULD PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION. WITH THAT, MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. SEEING NONE.

>> I WAS SO OPENING TO HAVE A SWEET 5-0 BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

ALL RIGHT WE DON'T NEED A BREAK? WE CAN JUST SURGE FORWARD.

[8.1 HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL ]

WE HAVE ONE APPOINTMENT AND TO CANDIDATES.

AND I SEE WE ARE HANDING BALLOTS OUT.

COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> MAKE SURE YOU PICK THE ONE

WITH YOUR NAME ON IT. >> THANK YOU.

I WANTED TO PUBLICLY SENT BY SUPPORT.

I THINK SHE DOES A GREAT JOB. I AM EXCITED THAT SHE WANTS TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE CITY ONCE AGAIN.

>> WE ARE JUST VOTING? >> SHE RECEIVED THREE OF THE TOP VOTES. SHE IS THE APPOINTEE THAT YOU

HAVE ON YOUR BALLOTS. >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE. WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS SPIRIT WE ALREADY VOTED. SEEING NONE.

[9. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

>> THAT PASSES THREE HAPPEN TO. CITY MANAGER.

>> THANK YOU, WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITIES SINCE THE LAST MEETING. THE VETERANS PARADE THE VETERANS RUN. AND WE ARE NOW CARRIED UP FOR THANKSGIVING AND THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

THANK YOU TO THE ORGANIZERS. THEY WERE ALL WELL ATTENDED.

EVERYTHING WAS PRETTY EASY-GOING, REGARDING THE STORM I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THEIR SUPPORT.

THE USUAL AREAS FLOODED. THERE WERE SOME INTERESTING EFFECTS AT THE BEACH. THIS IS WHERE THE.

AND CONDO IS. BEACH ACCESS 39.

SO THIS IS HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. LIKE I SAID I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND PENDING ANY QUESTIONS THAT'S ALL

I HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I JUST HAVE ONE. THE LETTERS WE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANYMORE?

>> NO, WE SENT OUT 5-6 AND WE HAVE HEARD FROM TO PROPERTY OWNERS, THE PLAN IS WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE LETTERS AND THAT WILL BE ON THE DECEMBER ( INDISCERNIBLE ) WITH THAT

[01:35:06]

[10. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]

THE PHONE CALLS AND QUESTIONS. >> THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU. CITY ATTORNEY?

>> I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE.

WE ARE NEGOTIATING WITH THE LEASEHOLDER AND RESTAURANT GROUP TO TERMINATE THE LEASE. AND WHAT THE AMOUNT WOULD BE AND WHO WOULD PAY THAT AMOUNT. WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT.

I THINK WE ARE GIVING OURSELVES UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH BEFORE WE TAKE ANY OTHER ACTION. THE CITY HAS GRANTED UNTIL THE END OF NOVEMBER TO COME UP WITH ELEVATIONS AND DRAWINGS FOR PLANTS AND WHAT KIND OF SQUARE FOOTAGE HE WILL NEED FOR THAT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE?

[11. CITY CLERK REPORTS]

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, SEEING NONE.

CITY CLERK. >> THE CITY WILL HOLD A RUNOFF ELECTION DECEMBER 13, C4 AND C5 WITH JAMES ANTIN AND A YEAR LEDNOVICH. ( INDISCERNIBLE ) I WANT TO OFFER THANKS TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE RUNOFF ELECTION. PUTTING YOUR NAME AND THE HEIGHT DOES DEMONSTRATE COMPASSION FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND DEDICATION.

RUNNING FOR OFFICE TAKES TIME AND RESOURCES AND OFTEN STRAINS ON YOUR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS AND FRIENDSHIPS BECAUSE IT DOES REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME TO BE A CANDIDATE.

THANK YOU TO ALL WHO DID THAT. AND THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING, WE WILL HAVE THE MAYOR ELECT AS WELL AS THE VICE MAYOR ELECT.

>> THANK YOU. >> I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER.

BUT THERE ARE NO MAIL-IN BALLOTS.

>> THERE IS NO EARLY VOTING. >> THE WHITE HOUSE BAPTIST CHURCH WILL BE OPEN FROM 7:00 A.M. UNTIL 7:00 P.M. ON

ELECTION DAY. >> JUST TO CLARIFY THE MAIL-IN BALLOTS, TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEAR YOU HAVE TO HAVE REQUESTED IT FOR THE EARLIER -- CAN YOU NOW REQUEST A MAIL-IN BALLOT?

>> THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO REQUEST A MAIL BALLOT FOR THE

RUNOFF ELECTION. >> SO IF YOU HAVE ONE, YOU WILL

HAVE ONE FOR THE RUNOFF? >> ANY OTHER BUSINESS?

[12. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

THANK YOU MA'AM. >> OKAY MAYOR OR COMMISSIONER

COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> THERE WAS A GOLF TOURNAMENT THIS WEEKEND AND I WANT TO THANK CITY STAFF WHAT THEY PROVIDED.

IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. THERE WERE 164 TEAMS THAT CAME FROM ACROSS THE GLOBE AND 19 STATES.

IT WAS A VERY NICE EVENT. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

AS FAR AS THE OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY, THE NEW OPERATOR AS A CREW OUT THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS PICKING UP TRASH ON THE ROAD. I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THEM FOR DOING THAT. I THINK THAT IS GOOD.

I THINK THE CURRENT OPERATOR AT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRUISESHIP BUT WE WILL FIND OUT MORE.

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT ONE THING. I DIDN'T READ THE NEWSPAPER.

IM EXCITED ABOUT THE FIRST 100 DAYS.

IF THE MAYOR ELECT COULD ELABORATE A LITTLE IN HIS

COMMENTS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> COMMISSIONER STURGIS. >> I DON'T HAVE MUCH THIS EVENING BUT ON CHIPS COME IN ALONE I HAVE TO SAY THAT SOUNDS PRETTY AWESOME THAT PORT AUTHORITY IS OUT THERE

PATROLLING. >> IT'S NOT THE PORT AUTHORITY

IS THE OPERATOR. >> THAT IS PRETTY AMAZING.

I AM GLAD TO SEE CITY STAFF ARE REALLY ENJOYING THE EVENING.

I ENJOYED CATHERINE'S EFFORT AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HER WITH PARKS AND RECORDS -- PARKS AND REX.

I THINK WE ARE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH A LOT WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

[01:40:01]

>> COMMISSIONER BEAN. TANGIBLE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE PEOPLE OF FERNANDINA BEACH LOOKING FORWARD TO BE MAYOR AND LIKE COMMISSIONER ROSS THAT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A BIG PUSH AND GETTING A LOT OF GOOD STUFF DONE AND YOU CAN READ MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE LOCAL NEWSLETTER. I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT FRIDAY. WE HAD AN EXCELLENT VETERANS DAY PARADE. IT WAS GREAT TO BE PART OF THAT.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC FOR REALLY SUPPORTING TASTE OF A MILLION. I HAD A GOOD AND IN SUPPORTING THAT. WE RAISED $22,000 FOR SCHOLARSHIPS. THAT WAS A BIG WAY TO GO.

WE WANT TO THANK THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES WHO PARTICIPATE.

I DID TAKE A LAP AROUND THE TOURNAMENT AND WHAT A GREAT TURNOUT. I AM GLAD THAT WAS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND ON VETERANS DAY I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO STOP BEHIND AMERICAN LEGION AND TALK TO A LOT OF VETERANS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND WITH

THAT THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. >> I SAID IN MY LAST WORKSHOP.

THE LAST ONE I WAS HOSTING. THE, I WILL BRING IT UP IN MY COMMENTS. I'M ALSO WORKING SO I CAN GET A READING. ALSO ATTENDED THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

IT WAS VERY INTERESTING. A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE.

AND FINALLY TO COMPLEMENT ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO RAN AND ACTUALLY

PUT IT OUT THERE,. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> SOMEONE DID GET ELECTED. AND THAT WAS COMMISSIONER BEAN AS THE NEXT MAYOR. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU SIR AND I LOOK FORWARD TO PASSING THE GAVEL ON THE 20TH.

A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WE HAD A TRAGEDY AT THE BEACH.

A COUPLE OF FOLKS GOT CAUGHT IN A RIPTIDE.

I JUST WANT TO CAUTION EVERYBODY ABOUT OUR OCEAN CONDITIONS, IF YOU HAVE VISITORS, PLEASE CAUTIONED THEM ABOUT GOING IN THE WATER DURING RED FLAG" FLAG. IT IS A SERIOUS SITUATION.

AND AGAIN, FIRE AND RESCUE DOES A WONDERFUL JOB, JUST BE CAREFUL, TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. UPCOMING EVENTS.

NOVEMBER 25, WE HAVE THE BLACK FRIDAY PAJAMA PARTY FROM 8:00 A.M. UNTIL 4:00 P.M. CENTER STREET AND SECOND STREET.

THAT IS ALWAYS A WELL ATTENDED EVENT.

NOVEMBER 26 IS THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING DOWN AT THE MARINA. VICE MAYOR KREGER WILL BE HOSTING THAT. AND FINALLY, THANKSGIVING.

THANKSGIVING IS A TIME FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

AND TO GIVE THANKS FOR THE WONDERFUL LIFE THAT WE ALL HAVE IN THIS WONDERFUL CITY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.