Nov 01, 2022 Regular Meeting

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>> PLEASE BE SEATED.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INDICATION BY REVEREND THOMPSON.

LEX I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY

AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> LET US PRAY.

OUR FATHER, OUR GOD, WITH COME TONIGHT TO THANK YOU FOR LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MULTITUDE OF BLESSINGS.

WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL LEAD US IN A MANNER THAT IS PLEASING.

FATHER, WHEN IT'S ALL OVER, (INDISCERNIBLE) WHERE WE MAY BE SERVING YOU FOREVER. AMEN.

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>> AMEN. >> THANK YOU, REVEREND.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS. IF YOU WOULD FOLLOW ME.

(INDISCERNIBLE). >> WE HAVE SOME PARTICIPANTS AND WE HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO YOU.

GIRLS, WE HAVE TO GET YOU IN THE PICTURE.

SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT?

>> PLEASE TELL US! PLEASE TELL US!

>> WELL, THIS PAST OCTOBER, WE HAD OUR FIRST EVER, MULTIGENERATIONAL PICKLE BALL TOURNAMENT AT CENTRAL PARK.

WE HAD NEARLY 100 PLAYERS, AGES SIX THROUGH 86.

WHAT WAS VERY SPECIAL ABOUT THIS PICKLE BALL TOURNAMENT IS THAT IT INVOLVE CHILDREN AND ADULTS ACTUALLY PLAYING TOGETHER AND MODELING GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP.

AND WHAT ELSE MADE IT SPECIAL WAS IT WAS A TRUE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH.

SO (NAME) ACADEMY LIKE TO THANK THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT FOR BEING SUPPORTIVE OF THIS EXPERIMENT! [APPLAUSE] PICKLE BALL IS THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT IN THE WORLD. AND TO HAVE THE WONDERFUL RESOURCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE CENTRAL PARK THAT KIDS CAN USE FOR FREE. SO WE ARE SO PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS! AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT? (INDISCERNIBLE) BECAUSE WE (INDISCERNIBLE), WE HAVE A SMALL (INDISCERNIBLE). EVERYBODY, GET SET -- TURNAROUND THIS WAY -- [APPLAUSE] (NAME), CAN YOU PLEASE READ TO THE GROUP? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T EVEN SEE -- WHAT ARE WEPRESENTING?

HOW MUCH MONEY? >> (INDISCERNIBLE) .

>> $1500! >> IS IT TRUE THAT WE ARE THE FIRST MULTIGENERATIONAL? MEANING WE HAD AN ADULT WITH A CHILD. AND WE HAD SOME REALLY YOUNG ONES PLAYING. ADULTS AND CHILDREN PLAYING TOGETHER. AND SO, WE GOT TO BRING FAMILIES TOGETHER. SOME ADULTS WHO PLAN THE ISLAND NOW (INDISCERNIBLE). WE ARE HOPING FOR NEXT YEAR! [CHEERING] THANK YOU SO MUCH!

>> HANG ON A SECOND! (INDISCERNIBLE) COME ON UP!

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(INDISCERNIBLE)! >> SO FUN! SO FUN! THANK YOU!

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. >> THAT WAS FUN!

NOW WE CAN SIT. >> I'M GOING TO REMAIN UP HERE

[4.1 PRESENTATION - NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY]

COULD WE HAVE THE HUMANE SOCIETY? I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SPECIAL -- WE DON'T HAVE A DOG THIS MONTH.

>> SO THIS IS BILLY THE BUNNY. HE WAS AN OWNER SURRENDER BECAUSE HIS OWNER WAS UNABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM SO SHE GAVE HIM TO A FRIEND AND THAT FRIEND ALSO HAD A BUNNY SO IT WASN'T WORKING OUT. SO HE IS AT THE SHELTER.

AS WITH ALL OF OUR ANIMALS, HE WILL COME TO YOU (INDISCERNIBLE). HIS APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE.

IS FOSTERED TO ADOPT AT THE MOMENT.

(INDISCERNIBLE) WE CAN DO THAT FOR YOU.

WE DON'T REALLY DO SHOTS, (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE). BUT WE HAVE BUNNIES.

IT'S BEEN A THING LATELY. (INDISCERNIBLE).

(INDISCERNIBLE) HOW MANY BUNNIES ARE OUT THERE.

SO WE NOW HAVE A PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE JUST FOR SMALL ANIMALS.

WE HAVE BUNNIES, WE HAVE GUINEA PIGS.

IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD FERRETS ANDBIRDS.

(INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).

THIS LITTLE GUY DOES NEED A HOME.

HE IS ALSO LITTER BOX TRAINED. MY BUNNY IS NOT LITTER BOX TRAINED ! (INDISCERNIBLE).

(AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) THIS LITTLE GUY NEEDS A HOME.SO NO

DOG, NO CAT -- (INDISCERNIBLE). >> BRADLEY, YOUR CHANCE!

[LAUGHTER] >> ONCE AGAIN, HER THEY ADOPT?

>> YOU CAN GO TO OUR SHELTER AT (INDISCERNIBLE)@ FERNANDINA

BEACH OR GO TO (INDISCERNIBLE). >> GREAT! THANK YOU SO MUCH! BYE, BILLY! [LAUGHTER] BYE, THANK YOU! ALL RIGHT. ITEM 4.2, MS. (NAME).

WELCOME! >> THANK YOU!

>> NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN! >> NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

>> ALL RIGHT. (INDISCERNIBLE).

[4.2 PROCLAMATION - NATIONAL AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE MONTH]

AND HELP SHAPE THE AMERICA WE KNOW TODAY.

THEIR TRADITIONS AND VALUES CONTINUE TO INSPIRE THE IDEALS OF SELF-GOVERNANCE AND DETERMINATION THAT ARE THE FRAMEWORKS OF THE UNITED STATES.

AS WE REFLECT ON OUR HISTORY, WE MUST ACKNOWLEDGE THE DEPLORABLE CHAPTERS OF VIOLENCE AGAINST NATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLES.HILE WE CANNOT UNDO THE PAIN AND TRAGEDY OF THE PAST, WE CAN SET OUT TOGETHER TO FORGE A BRIGHTER FUTURE OF PROGRESS. AND HOPE ACROSS INDIAN COUNTRY AND THE ENTIRE AMERICAN LANDSCAPE.

FOUNDED IN 1944, THE NATIONAL CONGRESS OF AMERICAN INDIANS WAS ESTABLISHED TO SECURE AND PRESERVE AMERICAN INDIANS SOVEREIGN RIGHTS UNDER TREATIES AND AGREEMENTS WITH THE UNITED STATES TO PROTECT AMERICAN INDIAN TRADITIONAL, CULTURAL, AND RELIGIOUS RIGHTS TO SEEK APPROPRIATE, EQUITABLE BENEFICIAL SERVICES AND PROGRAMS FOR OUR NATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND GOVERNMENTS.

AND TO PROMOTE THE COMMON WELFARE TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF AMERICAN INDIANS. NATIVE AMERICAN AWARENESS WEEK BEGAN IN 1976, AND RECOGNITION WAS EXPANDED BY CONGRESS AND APPROVED BY PRESIDENT BUSH IN AUGUST 1990.

DESIGNATING THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER AS NATIONAL AMERICAN IN HERITAGE MONTH. IN NOVEMBER, WE RECOGNIZED THE CONTRIBUTIONS NATIVE AMERICANS MADE TO ENHANCE THE FREEDOM, PROSPERITY, AND GREATNESS OF AMERICA.

THEIR CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS ARE RESPECTED AND CELEBRATED AS PART OF A RICH LEGACY THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.

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CONGRATULATIONS! >> THANK YOU! [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU!

[4.3 PRESENTATION - SCHWALLS CONSULTING LLC]

PRESENTATION. >> MR. STRAUSS, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BEGIN? IT'LL TAKE ME A FEW MINUTES TO

GET THAT UP. >> OKAY.

I'M DEL SCHWALLS, ON THE CITY (INDISCERNIBLE) CONSULTANT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, FOR HAVING ME TODAY TO YOU ABOUT THE UPCOMING CHANGES TO THE (INDISCERNIBLE) INSURANCE POLICIES HERE IN THE CITY AND ACROSS THE NATION BASED ON SOME NEW FEMA POLICIES. SO HERE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH THE RESIDENTS IN THE COMMISSIONERS ON BEHALF

OF THE CITY STAFF. >> THE PRESENTATION, GENTLEMEN, IS PART OF THE AGENDA PACKET. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW ALONG. I'M SORRY, MR. SCHWALLS CONSULTING HAD BEEN HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES BEHIND

THE SCENES THIS EVENING. >> OKAY.

NO WORRIES! I WILL BOB AND WEAVE AND WE WILL GET SOME GOOD INFORMATION UP.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE) THE MEMO, CAROLINE?

>> THE MEMO WAS THERE, THE PRESENTATION IS NOT.

>> OKAY. I DON'T HAVE THE PRESENTATION.

DO YOU HAVE THAT, MR. (NAME)? >> (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> DO YOU HAVE THE THUMB DRIVE, THEN?

>> I DO. >> THAT WILL WORK.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE). >> HERE WE ARE.

ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO.

SO FEMA HAS INITIATED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT NEW PROGRAMS, ONE BEING RISK (INDISCERNIBLE) 2.0 AND THE OTHER BEING FEMA'S NATIONAL VIOLATION TRACKER. THERE AFFECTING HOW FLOOD INSURANCE POLICIES ARE WRITTEN ACROSS THE NATION.

THAT ALSO AFFECTS POLICIES HERE WITHIN THE CITY.

SO ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS IS FEMA'S NEW POLICY AND PROCEDURE OF HOW THEY RATE BLOOD INSURANCE.

IT KICKED IN LAST YEAR AND ROLLED INTO EXISTING POLICIES THIS YEAR. FEMA HAS COMPLETELY REDONE THEIR RATINGS SYSTEM. UNDER THE LEGACY SYSTEM.

SO THE OLD SYSTEM (INDISCERNIBLE), THEY BASE FLOOD INSURANCE POLICY RATES ON IN OR OUT.

SO THE RED DOT THERE IS THE COASTAL ZONE, SO THAT WAS CONSIDERED HIGH RISK. THE YELLOW DOT HERE AT CITY HALL IS IN THE NON-COASTAL FLOOD ZONE, SO THAT WOULD BE A MODERATE RISK. THE GREEN DOTS WOULD BE CONSIDERED BELOW RISK BY FEMA'S INSURANCE POLICIES.

SO EACH OF THESE THREE GREEN DOTS WOULD HAVE THE SAME FLOOD INSURANCE RATE. SO THE (INDISCERNIBLE) WOULD BE CHARGED WOULD GO DOWN. BREAD WOULD BE HIGHER, THEN YELLOW, THEN GREEN. THIS RATING SYSTEM WAS INHERENTLY FLAWED BECAUSE THEY CONSIDERED ONCE YOU WERE OUT OF THE MAP (INDISCERNIBLE) FLOOD ZONE, THAT YOUR RATE WAS CONSISTENT. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A HIGH RISK POLICY THERE RIGHT ON THE COASTAL ZONE.

ANOTHER ONE IN 100 YEAR NON-COASTAL ZONE, WHICH IS A LITTLE LESS. BUT ONCE YOU GET OUTSIDE, FEMA CONSIDERED THE RISK FOR THAT PROPERTY TO BE THE SAME AS THE WHITE HOUSE. SO IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF EXPERTISE TO RECOGNIZE HOW (INDISCERNIBLE) ON THE BEACH IS CAN HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER RISK THAN THE WHITE HOUSE AND PROBABLY FURTHER IN. THE RATING SYSTEM GOT CHANGED MAINLY BECAUSE FEMA WAS PAYING OUT MORE MONEY, WHICH WAS THE

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SO THEY REALIZE SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM.

SO THAT IS THE WHY BEHIND IT. THIS RATING SYSTEM IS CHANGING.

ANOTHER REASON THEY CHANGED IT IS BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY HERE ON THE OCEAN, IT WOULD HAVE THE SAME FLOOD INSURANCE RATING AS A PROPERTY ON THE RIVER IN HATTIESBURG, MISSISSIPPI OR IN KANSAS. SO THE IDEA OF THE SEVERITY OF THE RISK WAS NOT BEING REFLECTED IN THE RATES.

BECAUSE PEOPLE ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW WHY IS FEMA CHANGING? THIS IS WHY. WE CAN'T CHANGE IT.

WE CAN'T IMPACT WHAT THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS A FEDERALLY IMPLEMENTED PROGRAM.

SO WHAT THIS TRANSLATES TO IS FLOOD INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE GOING TO CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY. SOME GO UP, SOME GO DOWN.

IN FLORIDA AND AREAS LIKE BARRIER ISLANDS AS IN FERNANDINA BEACH, THE PREMIUMS UNDER FEMA ORGAN TO BE GOING UP. THERE CAN BE GOING HIGHER.

SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT.

AS YOU GET YOUR RENEWALS AND YOU SEE THE INCREASES, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE WHY. THE REASON BEHIND THIS IS ITS EQUITY AND ACTION. THAT'S WHAT FEMA IS CALLING IT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE'S PREMIUMS THEY PAY ACCURATELY REFLECT THE RISK. EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE POLICIES ON THE ISLAND ARE GOING TO BE GOING UP, HARD TO ARGUE WITH THE POLICY ON THE BEACH BEING HIGHER RISK THAN 14 MILES FROM THE RIVER IN KANSAS.

THE RISK IS THERE. IT MAKES FEMA'S PROGRAM (INDISCERNIBLE) SO THE MONEY COMING IN IS THE SAME AS THE MONEY GOING OUT. (INDISCERNIBLE).

THE REGULATIONS WERE IN PLACE. THEY COULD CHANGE THE PROGRAM IT AND MODIFY IT WITHOUT ANY CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY DID IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THE CITY STAFF AND MYSELF WHO WERE INVOLVED WITH THE (INDISCERNIBLE) ASSOCIATION.

THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FLOODPLAIN MANAGERS.

WE ARE WORKING WITH FEMA TO IDENTIFY PROBLEMS WITH THE NEW SYSTEM. BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORKING PERFECTLY. SO WE ARE HELPING TO TWEAK IT AND ADJUST IT. OTHER THAN THAT, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY SAY OR INPUT ON ADJUSTING THIS.

SO A NEW POLICY LAST YEAR AFTER OCTOBER, THESE NEW RATES ARE REFLECTED. IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING POLICY THAT RENEWED THIS YEAR AFTER APRIL 1, IT'S GOING TO START GOING TO THAT NEW SYSTEM. SO WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT YOUR FLOOD INSURANCE PREMIUMS, YOU MAY BE SEEING THEM GO UP A LITTLE BIT. THERE ARE LIMITATIONS TO THE INCREASES, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO BE GOING UP, MOST LIKELY, FOR EVERYBODY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

WITH THE CITY CAN DO TO HELP COUNTERACT THAT IS THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM, WHICH IS A (INDISCERNIBLE) FOR YEARS.

UNDER THE CURRENT POLICY, UNDER THE CURRENT PROGRAM, THE CITY'S DISCOUNT OF A CLASS VI ONLY APPLIES TO THE MAP (INDISCERNIBLE) FLOOD POINTS. THAT 20 PERCENT DISCOUNT.

ALL THE OTHER FLOOD ZONES, WHICH IS MOST OF THE CITY, ARE LIMITED TO A FIVE OR 10 PERCENT DISCOUNT.

HERE IN THE STATE, IT'S 10. UNDER THE NEW SYSTEM.

SO FEMA'S RISK RATING IS CHANGE.

SO THE VALUE (INDISCERNIBLE) WAS LIMITED TO MOST OF THE RESIDENTS. NOW, THE SAME DISCOUNT GOES TO EVERYBODY. SO EVERYBODY WITHIN CITY LIMITS NOW GETS THE FULL 20 PERCENT DISCOUNT.

AND SO, THE VOLUME OF THIS D-- -- (INDISCERNIBLE).

WILL HELP NAVIGATE THROUGH SOME OF THIS.

THE GOAL IS FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO US AND THE CITY CONSULTANT TO HELP YOU GUIDE THROUGH THE INFORMATION.

INSURANCE POLICIES IN THE CITY, MOST LIKELY MAKING THEM GO UP.

THE OTHER ASPECT FEMA'S NATIONAL VIOLATION TRACKER.

THIS IS A BRAND-NEW SYSTEM THEY ROLLED OUT THIS YEAR AND IS SLOWLY BEING PHASED IN. IT'S A NATIONAL PROGRAM THAT AFFECTS EVERY COMMUNITY IN THE NATION.T IDENTIFIES BUILDINGS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE REGULATIONS. THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF WAYS THEY DO THIS. IF YOU HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE AND THEY HAVE NEGATIVELY RATED YOU. SO THEY SEE YOU ARE BELOW THE FLOOD ELEVATION FOR SOME REASON? YOU ARE ON THIS LIST. AND IT MAY BE THAT A FORM WAS WRONG. SOMEBODY CHECKED THE WRONG BOX.

OR MAYBE YOU ARE ACTUALLY TOO LOW.

THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF REASONS THEY ARE ADDING PROPERTIES TO THIS NATIONAL VIOLATION TRACKER.

IT ELIMINATES YOUR (INDISCERNIBLE) DISCOUNT.

SO IF YOU ARE ON THIS LIST, YOU LOSE THE 20 PERCENT DISCOUNT.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HELP IDENTIFY THOSE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE LOST IT TO FIGURE OUT IS IT AN ERROR OR DO WE NEED TO HELP YOU FIX SOMETHING ON YOUR PROPERTY? THERE ARE 56 PROPERTIES IN FERNANDINA BEACH CURRENTLY ON

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THAT NUMBER IS GROWING AS FEMA CONTINUES TO REVIEW INFORMATION AND ADDS TO THEIR DATABASE. BUILDINGS CAN BE MITIGATED FROM THIS LIST, SO REMOVED FROM THE LIST.

IT MAY BE SOMETHING AS LITTLE AS FILLING OUT A FORM CORRECTLY. IT MAY BE THAT YOU NEED FLOOD OPENINGS IN YOUR CRAWLSPACE OR GARAGE.

THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF REASONS TO GET REMOVED FROM THE LIST. THE IMPORTANT THING IS WE WANT TO GET THAT 20 PERCENT DISCOUNT BACK TO YOU.

IF YOU GOT YOUR FLOOD INSURANCE POLICY, THIS IS YOUR POLICY DECLARATIONS PAGE. AND THERE IT LISTS (INDISCERNIBLE) DISCOUNT. IF YOU HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE THROUGH THE CITY, IT SHOWS THIS.

IF THAT NUMBER IS ZERO, YOU ARE ON THE LIST.

YOU SHOULD HAVE A DISCOUNT OF SOME AMOUNT.

IF IT'S ZERO, YOU ARE ON THE LIST AND WE NEED TO HELP YOU EITHER IDENTIFY WHY AND GET YOU OFF OF IT.

OR IF IT'S A VALID REASON, HELP GUIDE YOU FOR INFORMATION TO FIX IT. LOOK AT YOUR POLICIES AND SEE IS THIS NUMBER TOO LOW OR IS IT ZERO? IF IT IS, WE NEED TO HELP FIGURE OUT WHY.

NOW, LIKE I SAID, THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM NOW APPLIES TO (INDISCERNIBLE) DISCOUNT TO ALL PROPERTIES.

CURRENTLY IT'S A CLASS VI, WHICH IS 20 PERCENT WITHIN THE CITY. THE COUNTY IS A CLASS VIII.

SO UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, YOU GET A 10 PERCENT DISCOUNT.

BUT THEY ARE POTENTIALLY APPROVED FOR CLASS VII, WHICH IS GOING TO INCREASE THAT DISCOUNT TO 15 PERCENT.

IT'S NOT QUITE OFFICIAL YET, BUT IT WILL BE COMING.

SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF DISCOUNT WITHIN THE CITY VERSUS THE COUNTY. SO AS I SAID, THIS DISCOUNT NOW APPLIES TO THE ENTIRE CITY. SO BEFORE, IT JUST APPLIED TO THE PINK AND BLUE AREAS. NOW, IT'S EVERYWHERE.

SO EVERYBODY GETS A FULL 20 PERCENT DISCOUNT.

SO SOME OF YOU WHO HAD (INDISCERNIBLE) POLICIES WILL SEE A DECREASE INITIALLY. BECAUSE YOUR DISCOUNT IS GOING TO INCREASE FROM 10 PERCENT TO 20 PERCENT.

WE ARE PURSUING A CLASS IV, WHICH IS A 30 PERCENT DISCOUNT.

IN APRIL, WE WILL BE SUBMITTING THE DOCUMENTS TO FEMA HAVING OUR ANNUAL VISIT TO GET APPROVAL TO MOVE TO A CLASS IV.

THAT WILL ONCE AGAIN APPLY TO EVERYBODY.

IN THE GOAL PER THE CITY COMMISSION, IS A CLASS II, WHICH IS A 40 PERCENT DISCOUNT OR CLASS I, WHICH IS 45 PERCENT. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE IF YOU ARE PAYING $1500 HERE FOR FLOOD INSURANCE NOW AND FEMA HAS CHANGED IT AND RATES AT 5000 YEAR, PAYING 40 PERCENT LESS ON THAT. ALMOST CUTTING IT IN HALF IS A BIG SAVINGS. (INDISCERNIBLE) QUANTIFY THE ACTUAL SAVINGS. APPARENTLY, THE CITY HAS 550 FLOOD ZONE POLICIES AND THE MAP FLOOD ZONE, WITH ANOTHER 23-2400 OUTSIDE OF THAT. SO TOTAL OF ALMOST 3000 FLOOD INSURANCE POLICIES IN THE CITY LIMITS THAT ARE FEMA FLOOD POLICIES.HESE ARE NOT PRIVATE FLOOD POLICIES.

RESIDENTS ARE PAYING, AT ONE POINT, 6 MILLION AND FLOOD INSURANCE PREMIUMS, PER YEAR. BASED ON THE SEROUS DISCOUNT, YOU ARE SAVING $240,000 IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THOSE PREMIUMS WOULD BE 240,000 HIGHER IF THE CITY WAS NOT IN THE (INDISCERNIBLE). WHAT THIS MEANS UNDER THE NEW RATINGS SYSTEM IS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE GOING UP.

THIS IS JUST FOR THE 240 IS ALL POLICIES TOGETHER.

BUT IF YOU BREAK THEM DOWN IN THE MAP FLOOD ZONE VERSUS THE OTHER, IT'S 113 VERSUS 127,000. BUT FOR YOU FOLKS NOT IN THE MAP FLOOD ZONE, YOUR DISCOUNT IS GOING TO DOUBLE.

AS SOON AS YOU GO UNDER RENEWAL.

SO YOU SHOULD BE SEEING A SUBSTANTIAL DECREASE IN YOUR FLOOD INSURANCE. SO THAT IS CURRENTLY TODAY'S POLICY. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, GOING TO A 40 PERCENT DISCOUNT AND GOING UP TO ALMOST HALF $1 MILLION IN ANNUAL SAVINGS TO THE RESIDENCE BECAUSE OF THIS PROGRAM? THAT'S SUBSTANTIAL. HOW DO WE GET THERE? WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO. WE ARE CURRENTLY DOCUMENTING EXISTING ACTIVITIES. THE CITY IS DOING A TON OF WORK. THE CITY STAFF BETWEEN STORMWATER AND PLANNING AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS ARE DOING A LOT OF REALLY GREAT WORK AND WE ARE DOCUMENTING RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE FULL CREDIT.

OUTREACH IN THE PUBLIC PROGRAM FOR INFORMATION THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ESTABLISH LAST YEAR IS GETTING US A LOT OF EXTRA POINTS. EXPANDING THE LOCAL FLOODPLAIN

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SO RECOGNIZING FLOODS DON'T READ MAPS AND THEY DON'T STOP AT THE LINE OF A MAP. EXPANDING THE FREEBOARD TO AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD ZONE.

YOU KNOW, (INDISCERNIBLE) BUILT THREE FEET HIGHER THAN THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET SHOULD BE BUILT TO AN EQUITABLE ELEVATION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN THE MAP FLOOD ZONE.

EQUITABLE FOR FLOOD RISK PROTECTION.

CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE. THIS IS A BIG ONE.

EVER SINCE I CAME TO THE CITY, I'VE HEARD RESIDENTS SAY A LOT ABOUT WANTING TO PRESERVE THE NATIONAL AREAS OF THIS ISLAND.

PROTECT AND PRESERVE THAT NATURE AND THAT ASPECT OF THIS ISLAND. FEMA GIVES A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THAT CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE.

SO WE WILL BE DEVELOPING AN OPEN SPACE PROTECTION PLAN, DEVELOPING A PLAN THAT SHOWS THE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS AND HOW THEY CAN (INDISCERNIBLE) THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND.

IT WILL SHOW THE CHOKEPOINTS AND THE AREAS THAT NEED CONSERVATION. DOING A LOT OF WORK ON THAT.

(INDISCERNIBLE) AND FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT? YOUR CITY STAFF IS DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB IN MAINTAINING THE SEWER SYSTEM AND MAKING SURE THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS AN ONLINE WITH FEMA. SO EXPANDING THAT MAKING SURE WE ARE DOCUMENTING THAT CORRECTLY.

AND THEN, PLANNING. WE ARE DOING DEVELOPMENT.

THE DENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT. MAKING SURE IT'S DONE IN A WAY THAT BENEFITS THE CITY. ALL THESE ACTIVITIES ARE GOING TO INCREASE THE POINTS WE GET AND EXPAND OUR DISCOUNT.

(INDISCERNIBLE). THERE WILL BE A STORM THAT HITS THE ISLAND AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

FORT MYERS BEACH, WE DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD HAPPEN OF THEM.

MEXICO BEACH, WE DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD HAPPEN TO THEM AND IT DID. WE ARE A BARRIER ISLAND.

WE ARE A BARRIER TO HURRICANES. AT SOME POINT TIME, WE WILL GET A STORM. SO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO BE RESILIENT? WHAT ARE WISE DECISIONS FOR THE CITY WHEN IT COMES TO (INDISCERNIBLE) RESILIENCY AND FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT? THESE ARE ACTIVITIES WE WILL BE PURSUING. IT WILL BE A LITTLE TOUGH.

WERE TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM 240,000 TO HALF A MILLION IN SAVINGS FOR THE CITY. THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE TO IT IN THAT SAKE. SO THE MAIN TAKE AWAY FOR THE RESIDENCE IS LOOK AT YOUR FLOOD INSURANCE POLICIES.

IF YOU ARE NOT GETTING A FULL DISCOUNT, LET US KNOW AND WE

WILL HELP FIGURE OUT WHY. >> ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? MR. ROSS?

>> SO YOU SAID IF THE HOUSE IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE, THEY END UP ON THE QUOTE LIST? SO WHAT (INDISCERNIBLE) A HOUSE

IN NONCOMPLIANCE? >> SO THERE ARE FOUR SOURCES FOR FEMA TO CLASSIFY ON THE NATIONAL VIOLATION TRACKER OUT OF COMPLIANCE. IT COULD BE THAT THE HOUSE WAS BUILT AFTER THE CITY GOT ITS FLOOD MAP, IN THE 70S.

MAYBE THE ELEVATION CERTIFICATE THAT WAS USED TO DOCUMENT THE HEIGHT IS WRONG. THERE IS AN ERROR IN IT THAT SHOWS THE RELATION TO THE (INDISCERNIBLE).

OR COULD BE THAT THERE SHOULD BE FLOOD OPENINGS IN THE CRAWLSPACE AND THEIR ART. OR THERE SHOULD BE TRAIL FLOOD (INDISCERNIBLE). SO ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT TAKES OUT OF THE MINIMUM REGULATIONS.

IT COULD BE THAT YOU HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE POLICY AND SOME INSURANCE AGENT, 20 YEARS AGO, RATED YOU AS A NEGATIVELY -- LOWER THAN THE FLOOD ELEVATION. AND IT MAY NOT BE RIGHT.

SO FEMA IS GRABBING ALL THOSE DATA POINTS AND PUTTING THEM

INTO A DATABASE. >> SO IF YOUR HOUSE IS BELOW FLOOD ELEVATION, YOU ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE?

>> CORRECT. >> A LOT OF THESE HOMES THAT WERE BUILT BEFORE THE FLOOD REGULATIONS AND BEFORE BUILDING CODE REGULATIONS, POTENTIALLY, THERE COULD BE POTENTIALLY MANY, MANY HOMES THAT ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE?

>> THERE IS A NUANCE HERE. SO IT'S NOT THE HOMES THAT WERE BEFORE THE FLOOD REGULATIONS. SO THERE IS PRETTY FIRM AND POST FORM ANYTHING BUILT BEFORE THE REGULATIONS EXISTED WOULD

BE CALLED NONCONFORMING. >> WHICH WAS WHAT YEAR? X 1977 WERE THE FIRST FLOOD MAPS.

SO NONCONFORMING MEANS YOU DON'T MATCH TODAY'S REGULATIONS, BUT YOU WERE COMPLIANT WITH THE ONES THAT WERE THERE WHEN YOU BUILT. SO THE NATIONAL VIOLATION TRACKER ONLY APPLIES TO HOMES THAT WERE BUILT UNDER A CERTAIN CODE AND DON'T MEET THAT. SO IT WOULDN'T APPLY TO THESE

1950S AND 60S HOMES. >> OR 1900.

>> 1900, RIGHT (LAUGHING)! YES.

HYPOTHETICALLY, THE HOUSE GOT BUILT ON A CRAWLSPACE IN 2000

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--. >> BUT IF IT WAS BUILT IN 1980 AND THEY DON'T MEET THE FLOOD PLAN REGULATIONS, THEY HAVE DIFFICULTIES? CALEXICO BE ON THAT LIST.

YES, SIR. THE LIST IS NOT COMPLETE.

FEMA JUST STARTED THE LIST THIS YEAR AND THEY ARE ADDING IN A

HURRY. >> AND A LOT OF THESE HOUSES DON'T HAVE FLOODPLAIN THAT SHOWED THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR ELEVATION ON THEIR SURVEYS. AND SO, ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT TO GET OFF THE LIST? O GET A SURVEY IN A FLOOD

ELEVATION? >> THAT IS ONE OPTION.

THERE MAY BE OTHER OPTIONS HERE.

THERE ARE METHODS FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT RESIDENTS AND COMPLETE THE INFORMATION ON THE FORM FOR THEM.

FEMA HAS CERTAIN RULES WHERE YOU CAN DO IT IN CERTAIN SCENARIOS AND NOT OTHERS. IT MAY BE A SIMPLE FIX OR IT MAY BE THE MATTER OF THE PROPERTY OWNER INVESTING SOME

MONEY TO SAVE MORE MONEY. >> THE BUILDER HERE LIKES THAT

IDEA (LAUGHING)! >> WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT IF YOU ARE ON THE LIST, WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT. AND YOU MAY NEED TO SPEND $1500 TO SAVE $1000 A YEAR. SO AFTER TWO YEARS, YOU ARE

PAYING YOURSELF BACK. >> MY QUESTION TO THE CITY MANAGER IS WHO WOULD PEOPLE GO TO TO GET THAT KIND OF HELP?

>> THAT WOULD BE ACCORDING TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER STURGES.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS.

NUMBER 1, DALE, ISA ORANGE UP ON THE MAP.

WHAT DOES THE ORANGE DICTATE? >> ORANGE IS THE 500 YEAR FLOODPLAIN. AND SO, THAT IS AN X ZONE AS WELL. SO FEMA CONSIDERS EVERYTHING

OUTSIDE OF THE HUNDRED YEAR X. >> ALL RIGHT.

NUMBER 2, WHY DOES THE COUNTY 10 PERCENT AND US AS A CITY 10

PERCENT DISCOUNT? >> EVERY MUNICIPALITY (INDISCERNIBLE). BUT THERE IS A HARD DIVIDING LINE. TO CLARIFY, THE COUNTY HAS 10 PERCENT NOW AND HAVE A SOFT APPROVAL OF 15.

>> I GOT IT. THERE CATCHING UP.

AND NUMBER 3, HOW DO I FIND OUT WHERE THESE 56 ADDRESSES ARE IN OUR CITY? BECAUSE THEY COULD BE CUSTOMERS OF MINE -- [LAUGHTER] -- AND THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR ME TO HELP THEM.

>> THAT IS THE BURNING QUESTION.

HOW DO WE KNOW THOSE PROPERTIES? THE ANSWER IS, WE CAN'T. BECAUSE THEY ARE PROTECTED BY THE NATIONAL PRIVACY ACT. THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T ACTUALLY TELL YOU WHICH PROPERTIES ARE ON THAT LIST.

>> THAT'S A TRAGEDY. BECAUSE I COULD PROBABLY HELP AT LEAST 1/3 OF THEM ON THAT LIST!

I GUARANTEE IT! >> SO A LITTLE BIT OF THIS PRESENTATION TODAY WAS MEANT TO SPOOK THE RESIDENCE SO THEY GO LOOK. IT'S A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW FOR FEMA TO GIVE THE CITY THE ADDRESSES.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE NOTIFIED ME IS I CAN ASK THEM ON MY OWN.

AND IF THEY WANT TO DIVULGE THAT INFORMATION, I COULD BE ABLE TO HELP THEM. I TOUCH A LOT OF PEOPLE EVERY WEEK, SO I WILL ADD THAT TO MY LIST OF THINGS TO DO.

THANK YOU. >> CITY MANAGER STATED YOU SHOULD REACH OUT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, I HAVE TO DO IS SEND YOUR (INDISCERNIBLE) PAGE AND WE CAN LOOK AT IT FIGURE OUT IF YOU

ARE ON THE LIST OR NOT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. >> HAVE LIKE TO SAY ONE THING.

HE IS THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE ROOM WHEN IT COMES TO THIS STUFF. HE'S SPOT ON AND I REALLY THINK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!> THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[4.4 PRESENTATION - ROADBOTICS REPORT]

>> ALL RIGHT. ITEM 4.4, PRESENTATION

ROBOTICS. >> (INDISCERNIBLE) OPERATIONS DIRECTOR. GIVE ME A BRIEF SECOND HERE, AND I WILL BRING UP OUR LATEST ROAD ASSESSMENT

(INDISCERNIBLE). >> OKAY.

WHY DON'T YOU WALK US THROUGH WHAT ROAD BIOTICS IS?

>> YES. ROBOTICS IS AN AI PROGRAM, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE PROGRAM, THAT ALLOWS US TO VIDEO OUR STREETS. IT PROCESSES THAT DATA PROVIDES US WITH AN ASSESSMENT OF OUR STREET AND ASSIGNED VALUE, 1 TO 5. FIVE BEING THE WORST, ONE BEING THE BEST.

WE HAVE ABOUT 70 MILES ON THE STREETS NETWORK.

WE HAVE ABOUT 72 MILES ON THE STREETS NETWORK.

PAVED STREETS. (INDISCERNIBLE) 125 BASED OFF THE SURFACE ASSESSMENT. THIS IS A LIGHT SURFACE ASSESSMENT. THIS DOESN'T GO INTO THE

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HOW MANY OVERLAYS THERE HAD BEEN PRIOR, THAT KIND OF THING.

IT'S REALLY MORE OF A MAPPING TOOL THAT ALLOWS US TO BASE OUR DECISIONS ON STREET RESURFACING OFF OF THIS DATA.

THIS IS OUR CITY ROAD NETWORK. THIS IS ALL OF OUR CITY STREETS. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S COLOR-COORDINATED. IT'S BROKEN UP INTO SEGMENTS.

ASSIGNED A VALUE OF 1 TO 5. AND THERE'S POINTS OF EVERY 10 FOOT. SO THERE'S ASSESSMENTS DONE EVERY 10 FOOT DURING THE SURVEYING OF THE STREETS.

THIS IS YOUR ROAD NETWORK. THERE WILL BE STREETS THAT YOU RECOGNIZE AND YOU ARE LIKE YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE! OTHERS MAY BE A SURPRISE. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP LEFT, OUR NETWORK SCORE IS 1.77. OVERALL, OUR ROADS ARE IN GOOD CONDITION. OF COURSE, WE HAD A BACKLOG OF POSSIBLY 10 PERCENT AND OUR ROAD REPORT WAS DONE IN 2019 CONFIRMS THAT. SO WHAT WE DO IS WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING THE STREET RESURFACING -- WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE BAD STREETS. WE'RE LOOKING FOR WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO WE WOULD KNOCK OUT OUR STREETS IN 1 AND 2 AND WE ARE LOOKING AT FAIR TO POOR CONDITIONS.HIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

AND WE TAKE THIS DATA AND WE COMPARE IT WITH STAFF REVIEW.

WE COMPARE WITH OUR INS REPORT AND WE (INDISCERNIBLE) AS A GUIDE TO GENERATOR STREET RESURFACING PLAN.HAT PLAN WILL BE BEFORE YOU NEXT MONTH. RIGHT NOW IT'S IN STAFF REVIEW.

(INDISCERNIBLE). PERSON WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THERE'S NO UTILITY ISSUES, WASTEWATER, STORM WATER ISSUES UNDERNEATH THESE ROADS. BLESSING WE WANT TO DO IS PAVE A ROAD AND THERE'S A FAILURE (INDISCERNIBLE) AND CUT THE ROAD OPEN TO MAKE THAT REPAIR. (INDISCERNIBLE) RESURFACING PROJECT THE FIRST OF THE CALENDAR YEAR IF ALL GOES AS PLANNED. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SOME STREETS HERE -- LET'S TAKE A LOOK AND YOU CAN ZOOM IN A LITTLE CLOSER. YOU CAN LOGIN TO POINTS ON THAT. AND YOU CAN SEE THE CONDITION OF THAT ROAD. OF COURSE, IT'S NOT AS CLEAR AS IT COULD BE ON A DESKTOP COMPUTER.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD.

IT LOOKS FOR (INDISCERNIBLE). IT LOOKS FOR VARIATION IN COLORS. HE LOOKS FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS. AND (INDISCERNIBLE) PROVIDES AT SURFACE ASSESSMENT. SO THAT'S OUR SOFTWARE.

IT'S VERY SIMPLE AND EASY TO USE.

ONCE WE HAVE THIS DATA COMPILED, WILL BE POSTING ON THE CITY WEBSITE. THE GOAL IS SO WE CAN HAVE IT SO YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR STREET AND SEE WHEN YOUR STREET WILL BE RESURFACED. WHAT'S THE SCHEDULE.

WE ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH THE MAP LAYERS SO THIS IS INCORPORATED INTO OUR GIS MAPPING SYSTEM AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. THIS IS OUR ROAD NETWORK.

I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THIS IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING WITH.

>> MR. BEAN. >> THIS IS A CAMERA THAT'S PUTTING ON THE EXISTING CITY TRUCK WE.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WAS THIS A SPECIFIC TASK? DID SOMEBODY DRIVE ALL THE ROADS FOR SAKE OF DOING THIS? OR WAS THIS DURING OTHER CITY BUSINESS --

>> NO, (INDISCERNIBLE). IT'S A TWO CAMERA SYSTEM THAT WE USE. IN OUR TRUCK.

WE HAVE TO DRIVE A CERTAIN TIME OF DAY.

IF WE HAVE SHADOWING AND OBVIOUSLY TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS.

DOWNTOWN, STREET PARKING. SO WE DRIVE AT A SPECIFIC TIME TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING A GOOD VISUAL IMAGE OF THAT ROAD.

THAT DATA IS PROCESSED AND GIVES US THE REPORT THAT YOU

SEE HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK. HOW OFTEN WILL WE RUN THIS REPORT AGAIN? WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> THIS IS A RELATIVELY CHEAP PROGRAM COMPARED TO A FULL ASSESSMENT. THIS COST IS AROUND $8000.

ABOUT $100 PER MILE TO PROVIDE THIS DATA.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO RELATIVELY FREQUENTLY.

OF COURSE YOU WANT TO DO A FULL COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS EVERY 5 TO 7 YEARS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO ANNUALLY. (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> GOT IT. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THIS IS WHAT WE ARE SAYING. SO IF EVERY ROAD IN THE CITY WAS PERFECT, OUR AVERAGE SCORE WOULD BE A NUMBER 1? IT'S RIGHT NOW, OUR AVERAGE SCORES 1.77, SHOWING OFF OF A SCALE OF 1 TO 5, WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO BE GOOD AND OUR ROADS ARE IN GOOD CONDITION. SO BASICALLY WANT TO END WITH A COMMENT CONGRATULATING CITY STAFF AND CONGRATULATING OUR

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>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. HE ANSWERED A COUPLE QUESTIONS I WAS CAN ASK.'M JUST GONNA REITERATE FOR MY EDUCATION.

SO BASICALLY, THIS IS EQUIPMENT YOU CAN PUT ON ONE OF OUR CITY VEHICLES. YOU HAVE TO DO IT DURING A CERTAIN TIME OF DAY, AND IT COSTS $8000 A TIME, BECAUSE OF THE LABOR WE SPEND? OR THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE TO SEND TO THE COMPANY TO PROCESS IT?

WHERE'S THE 8000 --? >> IT'S THE DATA PROCESSING.

>> SO THE PROCESSING IS WHERE THE MOST EXPENSES?>> FOR EXAMPLE, I CAN GO IN THERE AND WE CAN LOOK AT BEECH STREET OR ANY STREET. WE COULD DRAW A LINE HERE.

(INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).

WE CAN DO IT ON GIS MAPPING. (INDISCERNIBLE) WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION DIRECTLY TO THE CONTRACTOR.

BEFORE YOU WERE COMING OUT SURVEYING THE ROADS, WE HAVE IT THAT DAY BASED ON THE INFORMATION --.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT THING. KEEP UP THE HARD WORK AND YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE DEFINITE REAL FAILURE TO ROADS ARE. LIKE THE WATERFRONT.

IN THE WATERFRONT DOWN THERE, PARTLY SLATED TO DO WORK IN

SOME OF THOSE AREAS? >> YES.

ONE THING THE SOFTWARE DOESN'T KNOW IS IT DOESN'T KNOW IS THIS A PRIMARY STREET? WHAT'S THE TRAFFIC? WHAT'S THE HISTORY OF THE STREET? FLOOD STREET, WE DON'T WANT TO PAVE NOW BECAUSE OF ALL THE WORK WE'VE DONE. WE'RE GONNA WAIT TILL THE CONSTRUCTION IS DONE (INDISCERNIBLE).

AND THEN WE WILL GO IN AND PAVE IT.

ADDITIONALLY FOURTH AND SECOND STREET.

YOU CAN SEWER TIES OVER HERE. THE ROAD CONDITION IS AS POOR THERE (INDISCERNIBLE) THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD DELAY.

WE WOULD DEFER A YEAR TO LET THE MESS GET OUT OF THE WAY.

>> OBVIOUSLY, YOU WOULD WORK HAND-IN-HAND WITH ANDRE WITH STORM WATER, UTILITIES, IF UTILITIES NEEDED TO BE PUT IN.

TO MANAGE IT ALL BEFORE WE PAVE?

>> ABSOLUTELY AND IT'S IN REVIEW RIGHT NOW.

>> OKAY, GOOD. THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU. >> OF THE 70 MILES THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, JEREMIAH, HOW MANY MILES ARE A FIVE OR FOUR?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA. >> ROUGHLY?

>> IT'S ABOUT 10 PERCENT. IT SUPPORTS WHAT OUR INS REPORT SHOWED US, ABOUT 10 PERCENT OF OUR ROADS.

IF YOU DO THE MATH, (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM

MICROPHONE). >> OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE A GUESSTIMATE ON THOSE SIX OR SEVEN MILES, THE COST OF GETTING THEM TO A 2 OR 1?

>> WITHOUT RUNNING A MEASUREMENT OF ALL OF THOSE, I DO NOT. RIGHT NOW, THE PRICE IS ABOUT DOUBLE THE SQUARE FOOT. SO IT TAKES A MEASUREMENT.

BUT THAT'S THE CURRENT PRICE. WE CAN GUESSTIMATE WITHOUT GETTING (INDISCERNIBLE).F YOU HAVE A ROAD THAT'S ABOUT 25,000 SQUARE-FOOT OF THE SURFACE AREA? YOU ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT $50,000 REPAVING PROJECT.

>> OKAY. SO THIS WOULD CERTAINLY BE VERY

HELPFUL IN BUDGETING? >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> GREAT. GOOD JOB!

>> I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER ROSS.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU.

SO THE ROADS DETERIORATE EVERY YEAR, CORRECTLY SO TO KEEP IT AT THE STATUS QUO, WHERE OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU TURN OFF THE GREEN, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS, CORRECT? WHAT DOES THAT COST? ROUGHLY?

IN TODAY'S DOLLARS? >> RIGHT NOW -- WELL, WE HAVEN'T BEEN MAINTAINING THE ROADS TO THE CONDITION THAT WE NEED TO. WHICH OF COURSE, THE COST OF PAVING HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS LARGELY TAKEN THAT BUDGET AND GOING IN AND DOING A BLOCK AT A TIME.YOU HIT YOUR RESPONSE. THE RESULT IS A PATCHWORK OF IMPROVED ROADS. I USE IMPROVED SOMEWHAT HESITANTLY. SURE, YOU DRIVE AROUND AND ONE BLOCK IS PAVED AND ANOTHER IS PAVED.

IT'S NOT IDEAL. THE GOAL IS GO IN DEBT OR LET'S LOOK IN THE SUBDIVISION BEHIND THE REC CENTER.

THE GOAL IS YOU WOULD JUST GO IN AND PAVE THIS ONE LITTLE PATCH AREA OR THIS AREA HERE. YOU WOULD GO IN AND PAVE THAT ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.OME NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, BUT THE (INDISCERNIBLE) THAT WE HAVE NOW ALLOWS US TO TAKE CARE OF THE ROADS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY SLATED FOR THIS YEAR, AND A FEW MORE, AND DIMINISH THAT BACKLOG THAT WE HAVE. THE BACKLOG OF ROADS THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO BE RESURFACED. WE HAVE $1000 IN THE BUDGET

THIS YEAR. >> 800,000.

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>> AND WHEN WE BRING THE PROPOSAL TO NOT SPEND ALL THAT MONEY, THE MAJORITY OF IT, BUT WE WANT TO KEEP SOME RESERVE FOR ANY UNKNOWNS AND ANY SURPRISES WE INCUR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO THAT PROPOSAL WILL BE BEFORE

YOU NEXT MONTH. >> SO (INDISCERNIBLE) STATUS QUO AND DESERVES DOLLARS AND PAYMENT GOING (INDISCERNIBLE), YOU NEED ABOUT $800,000?> THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT

NOW. >> THANK YOU.

ASK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU, JEREMIAH. APPRECIATE IT.

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]

>> I THINK THIS IS REALLY SLICK!

>> ALL RIGHT. ITEM 5, PUBLIC COMMENTS (INDISCERNIBLE) ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. I THINK I SAW MR. (NAME) FILL OUT A FORM. IF I READ THAT CORRECTLY?

>> YOU DID! >> SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD

PLEASE. >> TOM PELIKAN (INDISCERNIBLE).

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND COMMISSIONERS.

ORIGINALLY I CAME TO SPEAK ON ITEM 7.7.

GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT. I LEARNED OF IT ABOUT A WEEK AGO. INITIALLY, I WAS A LITTLE PEEVED THATI LEARNED ABOUT IT THAT WAY .

BUT SOMETIMES (INDISCERNIBLE) ADVISORY BOARD IS NOT THE SENATE WHERE YOU GET ADVICE AND NOT CONSENT.

IT'S JUST ADVICE, IF TAKEN. IN THE MEANTIME, I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH THE NEW DIRECTOR AND THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR APART.

I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH THEIR PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE FOR OVERSEEING THE GOLF COURSE. AND I THINK BOTH GOLFERS AND TAXPAYERS WILL BE HAPPY WITH THE OVERSIGHT.

AND I BELIEVE THEY CAN SUCCEED IN THAT MISSION.

BUT I BELIEVE IT WILL TAKE YOUR SUPPORT.

AND I KNOW MR. MARTIN IS VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT HIS NEW HIRE, AS WELL AS I AM. AND AS LONG AS SHE HAS YOUR SUPPORT IN THE FUTURE, I BELIEVE SHE WAS SUCCEED FOR THE GOLF COURSE IN THE CITY. THANK YOU.

OH, LET ME CONTINUE. I SPEAK ONLY AS ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD.

IT WILL BE ON OUR AGENDA NEXT WEDNESDAY.

BUT I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF IT. BUT IT'S JUST AS A MEMBER, NOT

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 6.1.

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. MADAM CLERK, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[7.1 BUDGET AMENDMENTS - VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS]

>> MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THESE ARE AGAIN BUDGET AMENDMENTS CLOSING OUT THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR. I INCLUDED THESE ALSO (INDISCERNIBLE) TO BALANCE THE BUDGETS OF THE GOLF COURSE

(INDISCERNIBLE). >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> ICAN. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION?EEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE

[7.2 FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT - YOUTH SPORTS]

FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE

RECORD, PLEASE. >> NAME AND ADDRESS? CATHERINE ROSSI, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR (LAUGHING).

BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE THE FACILITY USE AGREEMENTS FOR YOUTH SPORTS. YOU HAVE FIVE THAT ARE LAND-BASED AND THREE THAT ARE AQUATICS RELATED.

WE WANTED TO BRING ALL ATU AT ONE TIME SO WE CAN GET THEM ALL ON THE SAME FISCAL YEAR SCHEDULE.

WITH OPTIONS TO RENEW. >> OKAY.

>> THERE IS A FISCAL IMPACT, IF I MAY, THAT WAS POINTED OUT IN THE REPORT. THAT FISCAL IMPACT IS ABOUT $24,000 ON REVENUE BASED ON A $25 AN HOUR RENTAL FEE FOR THE POLLS, BOTH AT MLK AND AT THE REC CENTER.

I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TOO. AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> AND I DO HAVE A MOTION. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

[00:50:04]

>> SECOND. >> OKAY, A MOTION AND A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BEAN? >> SO THE ONLY FEE THAT WE WILL BE CHARGING NORMALLY IS (INDISCERNIBLE) THE AQUATICS?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THE FEES ARE POOR RELATED.

>> SO NO FEES FOR ANY LAND-BASED ACTIVITIES LIKE BASEBALL OR FOOTBALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?

>> THAT IS TRUE. >> THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO AS A QUESTION AND JUST SAY I THINK THIS IS A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CHILDREN OF FERNANDINA BEACH.

I WILL BE VOTING YES. REX COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> I WILL BE VOTING YES. THE FISCAL IMPACT, TO ME, IS NOT ONLY REVENUE BUT EXPENSES. SO WHAT IS THIS COSTING THE

TAXPAYERS? >> SO I DID MEET WITH STAFF.

WE LOOKED AT HOW MANY MAN-HOURS IT TAKES TO MAINTAIN A BASEBALL DIAMOND, A TURF FIELD, OR A POOL.

WE HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY NUMBERS.

I AM GOING TO BE PUTTING TOGETHER MY REEVALUATION OF ALL THE FEES. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN A PREVIOUS MEETING. SO IN DECEMBER, JANUARY TIMEFRAME, I WILL BE GETTING WITH MR. MARTIN WITH MY REEVALUATION WITH STAFF ABOUT THE FEES JUST MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH COST RECOVERY, BUT THE GOALS ARE.

THAT KIND OF THING. SO I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. SO I DON'T HAVE -- I CAN'T SAY IT'S GOING TO COST X AMOUNT OF MONEY PER YEAR, PER DIAMOND.

BECAUSE ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I'M ALSO WORKING ON IS HOW WE MAINTAIN OUR FIELDS. HOW WE MAINTAIN OUR POOLS.

AND IS WHAT WE ARE DOING CURRENTLY ADEQUATE? WHERE CAN WE DO BETTER? SOME LOOKING AT THAT TOO.

SO MYNUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT BETWEEN TODAY, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING , IT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING IN THE FUTURE. BUT FOOD FOR THOUGHT: WE HAVE ABOUT 5 AND A HALF TURF FIELDS, EQUIVALENT TO FULL-SIZE SOCCER FIELDS. SO WE ARE IN IS A FIVE AND AFTER FIELDS. WE HAVE ABOUT SEVEN DIAMONDS AND TWO DIFFERENT POLLS.FOR THE TURF FIELDS, IT TAKES ABOUT THREE HOURS A WEEK, THREE MAN-HOURS, TO MOW, EDGE -- BASIC LAWN CARE, I WOULD CALL IT.

THEN WE DO QUARTERLY TREATMENTS AS WELL.

THE DIAMONDS TAKE ABOUT FOUR HOURS PER WEEK PER FACILITY.

THE BULL TAKES A LITTLELONGER THAN WE ARE CALLED AT ABOUT

FIVE HOURS PER WEEK PER POOL . >> THE AGGREGATE?

>> I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU.

THOSE ARE MAN-HOURS. >> 50 MAN-HOURS PER YEAR?

>> GIVE OR TAKE. >> I WASN'T ADDING.

I WOULD BE INTERESTED -- I KNOW YOU ARE NEW AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT ALL OF THESE THINGS COST GOING FORWARD AT SOME POINT IN THE NOT SO

DISTANT FUTURE. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, PARKS AND REC IS A VALUABLE PART OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S 18 PERCENT OF THE BUDGET.

SO WE HAVE 12 BASEBALL FIELDS. BASEBALL TOP OF FIELDS AND SO ON. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW PARTICULARLY PRIOR TO THE NEXT BUDGET, WHAT ALL THESE THINGS

COST. >> ABSOLUTELY.

YOU WILL HAVE THAT. I NEED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO TO TO PUT TOGETHER THE FEES INFORMATION ANALYSIS FOR YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON! THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

[7.3 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - WEATHERPROOFING TECHNOLOGIES, INC.]

PROPOSAL APPROVAL WEATHERPROOFING TECHNOLOGY'S.

>> JEREMIAH GLISSON, OPERATIONS DIRECTOR.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO APPLY A LIQUID SOLUTION TO THE ADMIN BUILDING AT THE (INDISCERNIBLE) RECREATION CENTER.

THE PROJECT IS IN THE AMOUNT OF 165,000.

THIS PROJECT WAS SLATED FOR LAST YEAR BUT GOT DEFERRED A YEAR PENDING THE TIER 1 FACILITIES ASSESSMENT.

SO THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO OCCUR AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I UNDERSTAND THIS HAS BEEN DEFERRED FOR A LONG TIME.

AND IF YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF THE ROOF, THE BUILDING IS GOING TO GO. SO (INDISCERNIBLE).

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- HOW MUCH MONEY IS THIS BUILDING GOING TO COST US IN RENOVATIONS IN THE NEXT FIVE OR 10 YEARS? AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS PART OF THE PARKS AND REC THING, WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF THIS BUILDING? BECAUSE IF WE KEEP PUTTING A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY INTO THESE BUILDINGS THAT ARE OLD AND FAILING, INSTEAD OF CONTINUALLY JUST RENOVATING THEM REPLACING THEM.

AND SO, I THINK GOING FORWARD, AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR

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>> (INDISCERNIBLE) HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS MORE ALONG THE

WESTERN PORTION OF THE COMPLEX. >> JUST ON (INDISCERNIBLE)

BUILDING. >> IN TALKING WITH THE CITY ENGINEER? YOU HAVE HVAC REPLACEMENT AND UPGRADES THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, BUT MINIMAL.

REX OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> JEREMIAH, THIS ROOF WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE BUDGET WE APPROVED LAST MONTH, RIGHT?

>> YES. >> I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO DO. WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE ROOF AT THE REC CENTER AND WE BUDGETED FOR IT FOR THIS REASON. I WILL BE VOTING YES.

>> THINKING. ANYBODY ELSE? SO IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, WHEN WE WENT TO THE BUDGET BUILDING BY BUILDING, AND THIS WAS ON THE LIST, WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO THE ATLANTIC REC CENTER DESPITE ITS AGE. DESPITE ITS LACK OF REVENUE.

AND DESPITE NOT KNOWING THE COST OF THE SETTLEMENT TO THE WEST SIDE. AND THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DETERMINED. BUT WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO THE

BUILDING. >> THIS IS A DIFFERENT

BUILDING. >> THAT'S A DIFFERENT --? THE WEBSITE IS A DIFFERENT BUILDING.

RIGHT. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FACILITY.

>> I'M JUST -- ALL WE ARE DEALING WITH TONIGHT IS THIS BUILDING. WE DON'T HAVE THE STRUCTURAL ASSESSMENT OF THE OTHER BUILDING.

CORRECTLY SO WE REALLY CAN'T MAKE ANY DEFINITIVE

(INDISCERNIBLE). >> BUT YOU TAKE THE CENTER INTO THE TALLY. THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT.

SO ANYWAY, I WILL SUPPORT THIS. SO MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[7.4 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - WEATHERPROOFING TECHNOLOGIES, INC. RESOLUTION]

>> YES. THIS IS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT IS IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. THIS IS RESTORATION OF A STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF AT THE FLEET (INDISCERNIBLE) FACILITY IN THE PUBLIC WORKS YARD. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL ROOF THAT NEEDS A LIQUID SOLUTION TO PRESERVE THE LACK OF THIS ROOF.

THAT WILL COME WITH A 12 YEAR WARRANTY AND STAFF RECOMMENDS

APPROVAL. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> I CAN. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER STURGES? X ACTUALLY, I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR JEREMIAH.

THIS IS JUST MORE FOR INFORMATION.

IS THIS THE PARTS ROOF THAT USED TO BE THE MOVIE THEATER ON

ATLANTIC AVENUE OR NOT? >> YOU HAVE A GOOD MEMORY!

>> NO, SIR,, IT'S NOT. THAT BUILDING WENT AWAY IN THE LATE 90S AND THIS BUILDING REPLACE THAT.

>> OKAY. IT'S A NEWER ONE?

>> IT'S THIS BUILDING HERE. THANK YOU, JEREMIAH.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MADAM CLERK,

[7.5 PURCHASE APPROVAL - FIRE DEPARTMENT AND UTILITIES DEPARTMENT]

PURCHASE APPROVAL FIRE DEPARTMENT AND UTILITIES

DEPARTMENT. >> GOOD EVENING, TY (NAME) FIRE CHIEF. THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS TO REPLACE THE SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THESE UNITS HAVE REACHED THEIR END OF LIFE.

ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS IS THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT -- EXCUSE ME, WILL ALSO BE PURCHASING (INDISCERNIBLE) PACKS SO WE HAVE INTEROPERABILITY WITHIN THE CITY.

CURRENTLY, WE USE ONE TYPE AND THEY USE ANOTHER TYPE.

BOTH HAVE REACHED THEIR LIFESPAN.

SO WE ARE ASKING TO APPROVE THIS FOR PURCHASE.

AND -- ANY QUESTIONS? >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MADAM CLERK,

[7.6 SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE APPROVAL - EMPIRE PIPE & SUPPLY]

7.6 SOLE-SOURCE PURCHASE APPROVAL.

>> GOOD EVENING. ANDRE (NAME) UTILITIES DIRECTOR CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH STOP THIS RESOLUTION IS FOR SOLE-SOURCE PURCHASE. IT'S THE NEXT STEP IN OUR NEW WATER METER SYSTEM. WE STARTED IMPLEMENTING THIS THIS PAST YEAR. WE'VE GOT ABOUT 600 IN THE GROUND CURRENTLY. THIS IS THE PURCHASE OF THE NEXT BATCH FOR THIS YEAR, WHICH WILL TAKE ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR METER ROUTES TO COMPLETE THAT TRANSITION.

SO FAR, THE TRANSITION HAS GONE VERY WELL, AND AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE METERS AND THE SERVICE FROM THE VENDOR.

[01:00:07]

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ANDRE WHY IS THIS A SOLE-SOURCE OF APPROVAL?>> A METER THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, WE WANT TO HAVE ONE METER IN THE SYSTEM.

EACH HAS THEIR OWN SOFTWARE WILL STOP THEIR OWN READING SYSTEM. SO THIS VENDOR IS THE ONLY SUPPLIER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR THE METER THAT WE'VE ADOPTED FOR USE IN THE CITY SYSTEM.

>> SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? EEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[7.7 GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT]

7.7 GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT. >> CATTAROSSI PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.HIS ITEM IS TO ALLOW THE CITY OR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IN PARTICULAR, TO MANAGE THE GOLF COURSE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 2026. THAT WOULD ALLOW MYSELF AND STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HIRE LEADERSHIP IN THAT DIVISION, THE DEPARTMENT IF YOU WILL. SO WE CAN GET SOMEONE THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD WANT TO COME AND NOT JUST BE HERE FOR LESS THAN A YEAR. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO MANAGE THE GOLF COURSE.

LOOKING AT IT OPERATIONALLY, PRO SHOP, AND FOOD AND BEVERAGE.'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. SO, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE? (INDISCERNIBLE) AND LOOK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> I SECOND IT.

>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER BEAN.

[LAUGHTER] >> (LAUGHING) THANK YOU, SIR.

I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS. (INDISCERNIBLE) WE'VE GOT TO GET THE GOLF COURSE SOME STABILITY.

AFTER HEARING FROM THE GOLF COURSE (INDISCERNIBLE) BOARD, I THINK THIS IS CERTAINLY THE RIGHT CALL.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO VOTING YES ON THIS.

>> COMMISSIONER STURGES. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

CATHERINE, IS THAT YOUR FIRST NAME?

>> YES. >> I CAN'T WAIT.

I'M ECSTATIC TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO WITH THE GOLF COURSE.

I'VE EXPRESSED A COUPLE OF IDEAS TO THE CITY MANAGER.

I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS THEM SOMETIME TO YOU.

THAT I THINK WOULD IMPROVE THE GOLF COURSE.HE GOLF COURSE HAS BEEN IMPROVING STEADILY SINCE WE'VE TAKEN BACK MANAGEMENT OF IT. AND IT HAS BEEN PROFITABLE THIS YEAR VERSUS OTHER YEARS WHERE IT HASN'T BEEN.

AS WELL AS THE STAFF HAS WORKED VERY HARD.

THEY'RE VERY PRODUCTIVE.I THINK THERE ARE MANY WAYS WE CAN APPROVE IT. I SEE IT AS LIKE A DIAMOND IN THE CITY AND NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD TARNISH OR THROW AWAY.

AS WELL AS (INDISCERNIBLE) FACILITY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE BASHED IT. ACTUALLY, EIGHT OF THE NINE MONTHS IT'S BEEN PROFITABLE. SO I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT (INDISCERNIBLE) AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO IMPROVE ON IT. (INDISCERNIBLE).

THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE? I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY CHIME IN BECAUSE COMMISSIONER STURGES MENTIONED TOP TRACER. AS YOU ARE AWARE, THAT'S A HUGE INVESTMENT BY THE CITY THAT I WOULD CATEGORIZE AS ITS FIRST YEAR DID NOT PERFORM. SO MY COMMENTS ARE WHAT METRICS ARE WE CAN USE SO THAT WE HAVE MILESTONES TO PERFORMANCE? I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO SAY THEM RIGHT NOW.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOOKFOR .

AND ANOTHER -- ABOUT FIVE MONTHS AGO, I PRESENTED SOME DATA ON THE USE OF THE BASE. THERE ARE 10 BAYS OUT THERE.

THE USE OF THE BASE WAS ABOUT THREE PERCENT OF THE AVAILABLE TIME. WHEN I PRESENTED THAT DATA, I GOT CRICKETS. BECAUSE THE QUESTION IS: WHY ARE WE RUNNING 10 BAYS WHEN WE CAN GO TO TOP TRACER THEMSELVES AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT? WE ONLY NEED THREE UNTIL WE GET THIS BUSINESS ON ITS FEET. AND THAT MAKES BUSINESS SENSE.

SO IT'S THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I HOPE WE WILL BE LOOKING AT. I FULLY SUPPORT THE CITY RUNNING IT. AND I KNOW YOU HAD THE CITY GOLF COURSE THERE. SOME CONFIDENT IN YOUR ABILITY

TO MANAGE IT. >> THANK YOU.

>> SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE BOAT.

[8.1 CODE AMENDMENT - ENCROACHMENTS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY]

[01:05:02]

IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> ORDINANCE 2022-29.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA, MENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH BY AMENDING CHAPTER 70 STREETS, SIDEWALKS AND OTHER PUBLIC PLACES, ARTICLE I IN GENERAL BY AMENDING SECTION 70-1 BY CLARIFYING LANGUAGE BY AMENDING SECTION 70-2, RELATED TO ENCROACHMENTS AND USE OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. BY ADDING A DEFINITION, UPDATING THE PERMITTING PROCESS, AND REQUIRING THAT ENCROACHMENTS MUST SERVE A PUBLIC PURCHASE.

BY AMENDING SECTIONS 70-3 AND 70-4 TO CLARIFY LANGUAGE BY AMENDING SECTION 70-5 AND 70-5 TO REMOVE SUNDAY EXCEPTION TO CLEANING PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND FOR PROVIDING (INDISCERNIBLE). THIS IS FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER. THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WITH OTHER CITY STAFF. THIS WAS TO ADDRESS ENCROACHMENTS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

ENCROACHMENTS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM LANDSCAPING, GRASS.

WE SEE BOULDERS AROUND TOWN. WE SEE POSTS AND ROPES.

FENCES. BRICK WALLS.

[LAUGHTER] WE SEE JUST HOW KINDS OF THINGS. PATIOS AND PLACES WHERE RIGHTS-OF-WAY ARE UNAPPROVED AND NOBODY SEEMS TO CARE.

SO IT'S NOT FAIR. WE NEED TO HAVE A CONSISTENT POLICY AND A POLICY IN PLACE. THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS GOING TO DO. FOR THE MOST PART, THE TITLE TELLS YOU WE ARE JUST CLARIFYING LANGUAGE AND MAKING THINGS CONSISTENT. THE BIGGEST THING THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS NUMBER 1, IT BREAKS DOWN THE PERMITTING PROCESS INTO THREE GROUPS OF PERMITTEES.

ONE OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS.

THE OTHERS ARE SERVICE PROVIDERS WITH THE UTILITIES.

THE THIRD ARE GOING TO BE BUSINESSES.

THE MOST POPULAR ONES THAT USE OUR RIGHTS-OF-WAY, WHICH INCLUDES SIDEWALKS MOST OF THE TIME OUR DOWNTOWN INNER CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. THEY ARE ALLOWED TO PUT THE A-FRAME SIGNS OUT TO SELL MERCHANDISE.

THEY HAVE PERMITS. THEY HAVE INSURANCE THAT IS REQUIRED OF THEM. THE RESIDENTS IN THIS ARE ADDRESSED. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE INSURANCE, BUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY USE PERMIT WILL INCLUDE AN INDEMNIFICATION OF THE CITY OF SOMETHING THEY PLACE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY INJURES 1/3 PARTY.

SO THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WHEN WE LOOK AT RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMITS, WHICH NO, NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET A LETTER IN THE CITY THAT HAS GRASS IN THEIR FRONT YARD IN THE FIRST WEEK. IT'S GOING TO TAKE US SOME TIME. AS WE DISCOVER THESE ENCROACHMENTS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, IF THERE IS NO PERMIT, WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE A PERMIT.

AND FOR HOMEOWNERS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WILL APPROACH THE HOMEOWNERS WITH A LETTER THAT SAYS THEY NEED TO GET A PERMIT.

WE WILL IDENTIFY WHAT THE ENCROACHMENTS ARE.

AND WE WILL SAY THEY NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC PURPOSE.

IF LANDSCAPING THAT IS DONE ON AN IMPROVED RIGHT-OF-WAY OR SIDEWALK, THERE IS ACTUALLY CASE LAW THAT SAYS THAT ENHANCES THE AESTHETICS OR THE BEAUTY OF THAT STREET.

AND SO, THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF IT AND MAINTAINING IT AND BEAUTIFYING IT FOR THE PUBLIC. THOSE PROPERTIES THAT, FOR INSTANCE, BACKUP TO -- MOST OF THE TIME BECAUSE THEIR FRONT IS ACCESSIBLE -- UNAPPROVED RIGHTS-OF-WAY.

CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. CITY-OWNED CONSERVATION AREAS.

SOMEBODY THAT HAS PLANTERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

OR PAVER PATIOS. I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY WHO HAS POURED CONCRETE, BUT SOME MIGHT HAVE.

BUT THAT WE HAVE FOUND DOES NOT SERVE A PUBLIC PURPOSE.

NOBODY SEES IT AND REALLY JUST BENEFITS THE HOMEOWNER.

THAT'S NOT FAIR. THAT IS CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY.

WE HOLD THAT THE PUBLIC TRUST FOR OUR CITIZENS.

SO THOSE FOLKS WILL BE ASKED TO REMOVE THEIR ENCROACHMENTS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO AGAIN, WE WILL APPLY THIS POLICY CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE BOARD.

THIS IS FIRST READING AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> I CAN.

>> FIVE EMOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER BEAN.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS IS A COMMONSENSE ANSWER THAT WE BEEN LOOKING FOR (INDISCERNIBLE).

I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE.

I THINK THIS ADDRESSES EVERY ISSUE THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE RIGHT OF WAYS. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS

PASSING. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER STURGES. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO TAMMY, MY ONLY QUESTION IS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXTRA PARKING SPACES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE THAT AREN'T PAVERS? THEY COULD BE ROCK.

THEY COULD BE GRAVEL. THEY COULD BE WHATEVER.

THERE CAN BE AN ISSUE PERMIT? OR ARE THEY GONNA HAVE TO ALL

BE REMOVED? >> NO.

IF SOMEBODY JUST HAS GRAVEL OR GRASS ON THE USE IT FOR PARKING? THAT IS JUST SUBJECT TO OUR

REGULAR PARKING RIGHT OF WAYS. >> OKAY.

[01:10:06]

>> BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING ADDED? LIKE IF YOU HAVE SOME BIG, GIANT PLANTERS OR BOULDERS OR SOMETHING? BERGEN ASK YOU TO REMOVE THOSE.

>> I GOT YOU. SOMETHING OBTRUSIVE THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

IF THEY HAD TO. >> AND ALSO, WE CALL THOSE NON-FRANGIBLE ITEMS. THAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE LAW.

NOT FRANGIBLE MEANS THEY CAN'T BREAK APART.

SO THE BOULDERS THAT WE SEE THAT ARE PREVENTING FOLKS FROM DRIVING ONTO PEOPLE'S GRASS? I GET IT, BUT THOSE CAN CAUSE SERIOUS DAMAGE TO VEHICLES, BICYCLES, AND THINGS.

>> GIANT STATUES. >> GIANT STATUES.

PRECISELY. >> THANK YOU.

>> YOU ARE WELCOME. >> OKAY.

[8.2 CODE AMENDMENT - PARK CLOSURE]

A .2 CODE AMENDMENT PER CLOSURE.

>> ORDINANCE 2022-34 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODONS AS OF THE CITY BY AMENDING CHAPTER 58, OFFENSES SECTION 9 USE OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, ETC., AS LIVING QUARTERS. AND BY AMENDING CHAPTER 65 RECREATIONAL FACILITIESAND SPECIAL EVENTS, ARTICLE I IN GENERAL, BY CREATING SECTION 65-4 USE OF PUBLIC PARKS AT NIGHT , PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND FOR PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. SO THERE ARE SOME CLARIFYING LANGUAGE. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS ALL OF THE CITY PARKS -- SOME RIGHT NOW ARE CLOSED AT NIGHT. IT'S AGAIN, NOT CONSISTENT.

AND PARKS INCLUDE BEACH PARKS AND BEACH WALK OVERS, GAZEBOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD CLOSE ALL CITY PARKS FROM MIDNIGHT TO 5 A.M. NOBODY SHOULD BE IN OUR PARKS AT THAT TIME. WE ARE NOT GOING TO FENCE AND LOCK OUR PARKS. IF PEOPLE ARE FOUND IN THERE AT NIGHT, IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT OR THE POLICE APPROACH THEM, THEN THEY WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE.

WE FEEL THAT, FOR SAFETY, IF YOU READ THE MONTHLY REPORTS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ? LAST MONTH, WE ARE FINDING THAT THERE'S MORE DRUG USE IN OUR PARKS AT NIGHT.

AND THAT'S GOT TO STOP. SO THIS IS A TOOL WE GIVE OUR POLICE OFFICERS SO OUR PARKS ARE SAFE AND CLOSED AT NIGHT.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER STURGES.

>> TAMMY, SO BRIEFLY, THIS WAS JUST CLARIFICATION AND COULD BE WITH THIS LAW. I'M READING PART OF IT IN HERE -- RECREATIONAL -- VEHICLES -- LIVING.

RVS, CAMPERS. THERE ARE NO CITY PROPERTIES IN RV CAN BE PARKED ON OVERNIGHT, CORRECTLY.

>> CORRECT. >> I'M JUST MAKING THEM FOR CLARIFICATION. I GET A PHONE CALL ABOUT THAT AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH. IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MOVE TO CAMPERS AND RVS AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKS AVAILABLE. SO THEY'RE CONSTANTLY ASKING CAN I JUST PUT IT OVERNIGHT IN THIS PARKING LOT? AND THE ANSWER IS NO, RIGHT? > NOW STORAGE OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, THAT'S A WHOLE ANOTHER THING.

SAYING IN THEM OVERNIGHT, IT IS NOT ALLOWED.

IT IS NOT PERMITTED. IN CITY PARKING LOTS.

IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY EITHER. COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THE CAMPERS.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU ARE WELCOME.

>> COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS.

WE HAVE AN IMPETUS FOR CHANGE. IT WAS BECAUSE OVER A MONTH AGO I GOT A CALL FROM A STATE TO CHEW IT ABOUT THE MLK PLAYGROUND. THEY FOUND USE HEROIN NEEDLES IN THIS LIFE. IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO AVOID. WE HAVE TO DEFEND OUR FAMILIES AND THE WEIGHT TO DO THAT IS MAKING SURE WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE USING DRUGS IN OUR PUBLIC PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS AT NIGHT. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE PASS

THIS. >> OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

9.1 CITY CLERK. >> (INDISCERNIBLE) RECESS FOR A

FEW MOMENTS, MAYOR? >> ABSOLUTELY.

WE WILL RECESS UNTIL

[9.1 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION - 2753 AMELIA ROAD]

>> WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. SO 9.1 VOLUNTARY AND, 2753

AMELIA ROAD. >> ORDINANCE 2022-30 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY .90

[01:15:13]

PLEASE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. >> ALL RIGHT.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? SEEING NO ONE, PUBLIC HEARING

IS CLOSE. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[9.2 FUTURE LAND USE MAP ASSIGNMENT - 2753 AMELIA ROAD]

FUTURE LAND USE MAP ASSIGNMENT. >> ORDINANCE 2022-31, AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA ASSIGNING A FUTURE LAND USE MAP CATEGORY OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR .90 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 2753 AMELIA ROAD PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

PLEASE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. >> PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? EEING NO ONE, PUBLIC HEARING

IS CLOSE. >> VOTE W MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION?EEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE

[9.3 ZONING MAP ASSIGNMENT - 2753 AMELIA ROAD]

9.3 ZONING MAP ASSIGNMENT. >> ORDINANCE 2022-32, AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA ASSIGNING A ZONING CATEGORY OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, R-1, FOR .90 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 2753 AMELIA ROAD PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

> PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. SEEING NO ONE, PUBLIC HEARING

IS CLOSED. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION?EEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE

[9.4 AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE]

ADVISORY COMMISSION EATING SCHEDULE.

>> ORDINANCE 2022-33, AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA, AMENDING ORDINANCE 2014-05 TO CLARIFY TERMS OF OFFICE AND WHEN REGULAR MEETINGS ARE HELD, PROVIDING FOR FURTHER AMENDMENTS TO THIS ORDINANCE AND AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES BY RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, REPEALING ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON AIRPORT ADVISORY? SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

I NEED A MOTION, GENTLEMEN. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> THE AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE -- TOOK ITS MATTER UP IN THE ADVISE -- CORRECT ME IF

I'M WRONG -- THAT IT BE PASSED? >> YES.

MAINLY WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS WE ORIGINALLY HAD THE AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION COVERING THE REDEVELOPMENT CODE. WHICH IS WHY IT BEGAN BY (INDISCERNIBLE). WE USUALLY SET UP ADVISORY BOARDS BY RESOLUTION. WE TOOK IT OUT OF THE LAND ABOUT CODE IN 2014, BUT I DIDN'T CUT THE CORD FOR THE ORDINANCE PROCESS. SO (INDISCERNIBLE).

THIS ONE, MAINLY, THE ADVISORY COMMISSIONWANTED TO HAVE BIMONTHLY MEETINGS INSTEAD OF MONTHLY MEETINGS.

>> THANK YOU. >> MM-HMM.

>> MADAM CLERK .

[10.1 AMELIA RIVER WATERFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADVISORY BOARD]

AGENCY ADVISORY BOARD. GENTLEMEN, I'M IN A START THIS CONVERSATION WITH AS WE KNOW, THE VICE MAYOR IS NOT IN ATTENDANCE. THIS IS THREE APPOINTMENTS TO A BOARD OF SEVEN PEOPLE. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE VICE MAYOR HAVE A VOICE IN THESE APPOINTMENTS.

SO I'M GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL AND SOMEONE SHOULD TAKE A PHOTO OF THIS, TO COMMISSIONER ROSS AS THE SENIOR COMMISSIONER.

[LAUGHTER] SO -- I'M GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL AND MY MOTION IS TO FOLLOW -- THAT WE RESCHEDULE THIS TO THE NOVEMBER 15, 2022, MEETING DECEPTION WHICH THE VICE MAYOR WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE.

AND WE CAN HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL FIVE CANDIDATES, THEIR QUALIFICATIONS.

AND NOT ONLY WHO BEST TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD, BUT REALLY, GENTLEMEN, AFTER ATTENDING AND WATCHING THESE MEETINGS, WE ARE

[01:20:07]

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> I WANT TO DISCUSS THIS

BEFORE WE DO A SECOND. >> I MEAN A SECOND FOR

DISCUSSION. >> OKAY.

I'LL SECOND IT FORDISCUSSION . >> THANK YOU, MR. INTERIM MAYOR!

[LAUGHTER] >> I'M NOT INTERIM MAYOR!

>> YES YOU ARE! APPRECIATE THAT.

I LOOK INTO THE CROWD AND I SEE MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAVE SAT THROUGH AN HOUR AND AND A HALF OF THIS MEETING FOR THIS PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION.

I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THIS.

I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TOLD THEM AT THE BEGINNING THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CAVEAT.

I THINK WE HAVE US FOR -- WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE READY TO

GO. >> (SIGHING) --

>> CAN I SPEAK? >> YES.

>> SO OUR ONLY PURPOSE OF DELAYING THIS IS BECAUSE (NAME) ISN'T HERE. IS THAT WE THINK THE VOTES AREN'T GOING TO COME OUT EVEN? OR THAT THE BOAT WILL BE DIFFERENT WITHOUT FIVE PEOPLE? WHAT IS OUR MAIN REASONING FOR

NOT DOING IT THIS EVENING? >> SO IF I MAY ANSWER? YOU HAVE A SEVEN MEMBER COMMITTEE AND YOU ARE GOING TO APPOINT THREE MEMBERS. SO ALMOST HALF.

NOT QUITE. AND YOU ARE ASKING ONE COMMISSIONER, WHO WAS VERY INVOLVED AND INTERESTED IN THE CRA, HAS EXPRESSED IN OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS (INDISCERNIBLE). AND THE VICE MAYOR HAS EXPRESSED CONCERNS AND THOUGHTS ABOUT THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD.

SO WHEN THERE ARE THIS MANY APPOINTEES, THAT THE VICE MAYOR SHOULD HAVE A VOICE IN THE APPOINTMENTS.

>> (SIGHING) I'M KIND OF SPLIT ON THE FENCE ABOUT THIS.

I FEEL THE VICE MAYOR SHOULD BE HERE.

HOWEVER, (LAUGHING) I ALSO FEEL THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE SPENT THEIR HARD EARNED TIME AND EFFORT.

AND IF WE ARE KEEPING THE SAME AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE IN TWO WEEKS -- ARE THEY?

>> THERE GOING TO MEET ON WEDNESDAY.

BUT I'M NOT SURE THE THREE PEOPLE WE HAVE APPOINTED --

>> ACTUALLY, THEY'RE KNOCKING TO BE HERE ON WEDNESDAY BECAUSE

THERE WILL BE A QUORUM. >> THEY ARE NOT APPOINTED, MS. FINKELSTEIN HAS ADVISED US THAT SHE IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR TOMORROW NIGHT'S MEETING. THE ONLY THING REALLY ON THE AGENDA IS AN ORIENTATION FOR ANYBODY THAT YOU WOULD APPOINT TONIGHT. BUT IF YOU DON'T MAKE ANY APPOINTMENTS TONIGHT, THAT MEETING WILL BE POSTPONED DUE TO THE LACK OF QUORUM. AND THEN THEY WILL BE SCHEDULED TO MEET THE FIRST WEDNESDAY IN DECEMBER.

>> OKAY. SO I WOULD SAY WHY ARE WE RUSHING? (INDISCERNIBLE) ONE COMMISSIONER? AND I WOULD APOLOGIZE TO EVERY CANDIDATE TO SPEND THE TIME TONIGHT.

I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. IT SHOWS YOUR INTEREST IN

SERVING AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. >> I GET TO GO LAST NOW!>

YES, YOU DO! >> THIS IS A FIRST (LAUGHING)! I HAVE A COUPLE OF PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS.

SO LET'S SAY YOU ARE POWER OF ATTORNEY.

SO THE WAY THIS WOULD WORK IS WE HAVE A BALLOT HERE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. THE FIRST ONE, AND SOME PEOPLE ARE IN MULTIPLE ONES OF THESE BALLOTS.

YOU WOULD BE IN RANKED ORDER. SO YOU WOULD RANK THEM ONE, TWO, THREE. SO LIKE ON THE FIRST ONE, THERE'S THREE PEOPLE. AND YOU WOULD RANK YOUR CHOICE,

CORRECTLY. >> CORRECT.

>> SO WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS A TIE?

>> WE WILL VOTE AGAIN? I DIDN'T PREPARE THE BALLOTS.

[01:25:02]

>> THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BALLOTS.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I KNOW THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BALLOTS. THE WAY THAT WE THOUGHT THIS THROUGH IS THAT EACH OF THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS, EACH SEAT HAS REQUIREMENTS. SO WHAT WE DID WAS IN THE FIRST, WE PUT THOSE THAT LIVE WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE CRA.

SO OUT OF THE FIVE CANDIDATES FOR SEATS, WE PUT THE NAMES OF ALL OF THE CANDIDATES THAT MET THAT REQUIREMENT.

AND THEN, IN THE SECOND CATEGORY, IT SHOULD SAY IT ON

THERE. >> THE SECOND CATEGORY WAS -- LEGAL, PROFESSIONAL. IN THEIR IS FOR.

THE THIRD CATEGORY, CITY RESIDENTS, TERNS OR BUSINESS OWNERS. THAT WAS THIRD.O MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS YOU GO THROUGH THE FIRST ONE. AND LET'S SAY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE -- WELL, ONE OF THEM WILL BE SELECTED.

AND IF THEY ARE ON THESE OTHER BALLOTS, THAT THEY WOULD BE

CROSSED OFF, CORRECTLY. >> RIGHT.

>> AND WOULD BE RANKED. SO I WOULD PUT ON THIS ONE, TWO, THREE. IN THE PERSON WITHIN -- EACH PERSON WOULD RANK WHATEVER THE RANKING IS.

AND THE PERSON WITH THE LOWEST SCORE --.

>> WE'VE DONE IT THAT WAY WHERE WE ACTUALLY ADD UP THE RANKINGS. WE HAVE ALSO DONE IT WITH THE PERSON WITH THE MOST NUMBER ONE.

YEAH. >> THERE'S FOUR OF US.

SO WITHOUT FIVE, IT MAKES IT AWKWARD.

SO THERE'S TWO PEOPLE WITH ONE AND TWO PEOPLE WITH ONE.

>> IF THERE IS A TIE, WE HAVE TO KEEP DOING IT UNTIL WE DON'T TYPE. THERE IS NO MAGIC FORMULA.

WHEN YOU HAVE A TIE AND YOU ADD UP SCORES --

>> I'M AMBIVALENT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

>> OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER BEAN'S LIGHT IS

ON. >> OH, YOU HAVE TO WAIT (LAUGHING)!> I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO FINISH UP!

>> I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE DID AT THE SECOND WAY THAT TAMMY TALKED ABOUT. AFTER WE TALK LAST TIME, WE END UP DRINKING EVERYONE. YOU RANK YOUR NUMBER 1 CHOICE, RIGHT? AT THE END, YOU ADD THAT UP TO SEE YOU AS THE MOST NUMBER 1 CHOICE.

>> THAT WORKS, TOO. >> BUT AGAIN, IF THERE IS NO -- BECAUSE THERE IS AN EVEN NUMBER HERE --

>> THERE'S A CHANCE IT WOULD BE TO M2.

(INDISCERNIBLE) TO BREAK THAT TYPE.

WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE A TIE.

IT MIGHT NOT BE ONE. >> I GET THE CHOICE OF GOING

LAST (LAUGHING)! >> WELL, YOU VOTE YOUR BALLOTS

AND I COLLECT THEM. >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE

FLOOR. >> I CALLED THE QUESTION ON THE DELAY OF THE MOTION.

CONVERSATION. >> YES.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU DON'T RANK ALL THREE OFFICES AT THE SAME TIME. BECAUSE SOME OF THE CANDIDATES FIT INTO MORE THAN ONE CATEGORY.

WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TO DO IS RANK EACH OFFICE.

AND THEN, WE WILL TALLY THOSE. >> THE FIRST BALLOT, YOU WERE ONLY GOING TO VOTE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE WITHIN A MILE DOWNTOWN. THAT'S ONLY ONES YOU ARE GOING TO RANK. THOSE THREE -- ONE, TWO AND THREE FOR THOSE THREE CANDIDATES.

AFTER THAT IS TALLIED WILL MOVE ON TO THE SECOND AND THE THIRD

ONE. >> ASSUMING WE DECIDE TO DO IT

THIS EVENING. >> AND THE MORE COMPLICATED WAY, AS COMMISSIONER BEAN POINTED OUT, IS IF YOU DO ONE, TWO, AND THREE AND IAT UP SCORES.

THE EASIER WAY IS JUST TO CHECK OFF YOUR FIRST RANK CHOICE.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE) DO YOU HAVE PBALLOTS FOR EACH ONE OF THESE?

>> I DON'T, SIR. >> WE NEED TO VOTE ON A MOTION.

>> YOU CAN WRITE THEM DOWN ON A PIECE OF PAPER FOR THE FIRST OFFICE, WHO IS YOUR NUMBER 1 CHOICE? WE GO ON FROM THERE. I KNOW THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, BUT THAT'S HOW IT WOULD BE.

>> ALL RIGHT. ALL THE QUESTIONS.

>> A YES VOTE WILL DELAY UNTOLD --?

>> NOVEMBER 15. >> TWO WEEKS.

>> OH, ONE LAST THING. THERE IS AN ELECTION BETWEEN.

AND IF THERE WAS A MAJORITY IN THAT SEAT, WOULD -- MR. KRIEGER BE HERE AS PART OF THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME?

>> THE NEW COMMISSION, IF THERE IS NO RUNOFF, NOVEMBER 15 WE WOULD HAVE THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING.

IF THERE IS EVEN ONE RUNOFF, WE HAVE TWO RACES, TWO COMMISSION SEATS UP FOR ELECTION. IF THERE IS EVEN ONE RUNOFF NEEDED BECAUSE NOBODY IN THE GENERAL ELECTION FOR SEAT GETS

[01:30:07]

AND NOBODY IS SWORN IN UNTIL DECEMBER 20.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO

CALL THE (INDISCERNIBLE)? >> I WOULD.

THANK YOU.

MR. ROSS, YOU ARE NOW OFF THE HOOK!

>> GOOD! >> THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE DO OR DO NOT HAVE

BALLOTS? >> DO NOT, SIR.

>> WE DO NOT HAVE BALLOTS? >> HIM TO PASS OUT A PIECE OF

PAPER THOUGH. >> OKAY.

>> AND MY SUGGESTION, THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THIS IS JUST WRITE THE NAME OF YOUR NUMBER 1 CHOICE FOR THAT FIRST WHO LIVES WITHIN A MILE. AND THEN, I WILL TALLY UP WHO

HAD THE MOST NUMBER ONES. >> SO CAN YOU -- WOULD YOU -- SO (INDISCERNIBLE) ALL IN THE SAME THING, THERE ARE THREE NAMES, AND THERE'S --.

[CHATTER] >> WHAT IS THE BALLOT TITLED?

>> IT'S CALLED BALLOT. >> BALLOT QUESTION MARK OKAY!

>> SO THIS CATEGORY FOR THIS PARTICULAR SEAT ON THE COMMUNITY READ OF A AND ADVISORY BOARD IS RESIDENT OF THE AMELIA RIVER WATERFRONT CRA OR WITHIN ONE MILE RADIUS OF THE CRA. IN THE NAMES FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ARE JAMES GINN NAME), G (NAME) AND FRANK SANTRY.> I HAVE A SPEAKER. SINCE WE ARE VOTING.

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. (NAME).

>> W WELCOME, SIR. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS

PLEASE. >> (NAME).

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO COME IN AND INTRODUCE MYSELF AND SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AS WELL AS YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR MY SPOT ON THE CRA BOARD. I SPOKE WITH ALL OF YOU EARLIER, BUT WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF IN PERSON AND JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> IVA PROCEDURAL QUESTION.

WHY ARE THERE THREE NUMBERS ON HERE?

>> BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE SEATS TO FILL.

>> YEAH, BUT WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO ONE AT A TIME BECAUSE THE NAME MAY COME UP THE OTHER ONES, AM I RIGHT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. BUT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PAPER --

>> (INDISCERNIBLE). >> SO SHE HAS CALLED THE FIRST VACANCY. WRITE YOUR SELECTION DOWN.

AND THEN SHE WILL CALL THE NEXT VACANCY REQUIREMENTS.

AND YOU WILL WRITE YOUR SELECTIONS DOWN.

>> THAT'S FINE. THAT WORKS.

>> BUT WE NEED TO KNOW (INDISCERNIBLE) FALLOFF?

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING.

>> SO THERE'S FOUR NAMES HERE. >> THERE'S THREE NAMES.

>> NO, WE ARE DOING THE BOTTOM ONE FIRST.

>> THE BOTTOM ONE FIRST IS WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE RADIUS.

I WOULD SUGGEST WRITING YOUR NUMBER 1 CANDIDATE.OT DOING ONE, TWO, THREE, AND BE TRYING TO TALLY SCORES.

THAT'S MORE ROOM FOR ERROR. THIS WAY, NUMBER 1 CHOICE AND I WILL TALLY THEM UP. AND THE CLERK HAS ASKED, RESPECTFULLY, THAT WE NOT JUST VOTE ON EACH SEAT, BUT THAT YOU WRITE DOWN THE SUB SO FOR THIS ONE, WE WRITE DOWN UNDERNEATH IT THE NAME AND I WILL EXPLAIN THE SECOND.

>> HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH THAT --

>> YOU ARE RIGHT. BECAUSE SOME OF THE CANDIDATES

-- >> ARE A MULTIPLE BALLOTS.

>> THANK YOU. >> OH YEAH.

I WENT TO SEE IF THIS PERSON DROPS OFF FROM THE --.

>> AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO VOTE ON EACH ONE, EACH SEAT.

>> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, UM AND MAKE THIS PUBLIC BECAUSE THIS IS PUBLIC INFORMATION ANYWAY. I AM DRINKING ALL THE

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THEY DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR MISSION IS.

WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. AND THERE'S JUST BEEN SQUABBLING AND DYSFUNCTION FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.

SO I AM DRINKING EVERY PERSON THE SAME.

JUST FYI. >> AND THAT'S OKAY.

BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MATTER STOP NOT THAT YOUR VOTE DOESN'T MATTER. IT WILL IN A MINUTE.

BUT MR. FRANK SANTRY RECEIVED THREE NUMBER 1 VOTES.

SO MR. FRANK SANTRY IS THE CANDIDATE.

AND AT YOUR PLEASURE, MR. MAYOR, WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPOINT MR. FRANK SANTRY TO THE CRA ADVISORY

BOARD. >> CAN I HAVE A MOTION?

>> I SO MOVE. >> I SECOND.

>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

SO NOW WE ARE MOVING -- >> NOW WE ARE DOING THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE, NOT THE TOP.

>> THE BUSINESS OWNER? >> CORRECT.

THE NEXT IS -- I'M SORRY. THIS IS THE LEGAL PROFESSIONAL, FINANCIAL PROFESSIONAL, MARKETING, ADVERTISING, BRANDING PROFESSIONAL. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONAL, GENERAL CONTRACTOR, DEVELOPER, REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL, ARCHITECT, ETC. FOR THIS SEE, WE HAVE FOUR NAMES. ACTUALLY, WE HAVE THREE LEFT BECAUSE MR. SANTRY, WHO IS AN ATTORNEY, WAS APPOINTED.

SO WE HAVE ERIC BALL TAUGHT, WHOSE MARKETING, ADVERTISING, BRANDING.E HAVE LOGAN EASON, WHO IS AN ENGINEER.

AND WE HAVE JIM PLAN NEU WHO IS IN PROJECT MANAGEMENT.

PLEASE WRITE YOUR NUMBER 1 CHOICE.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER BEAN, YOUR

LIGHT IS STILL ON! >> OH, THANKS!

>> AND IN THIS SEE, WE HAVE MR. ERIC BARTH HALT, RECEIVING THREE NUMBER 1 VOTES. AND SO, THERE SHOULD BE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPOINT MR. ERIC OUR TILT TO THE SEAT.

>> DERIVE EMOTION? >> I SO MOVE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

ONE? >> THIS ONE, EVERYBODY, ALL FIVE CANDIDATES EXCEPT NOW TWO, MR. PAUL TROUT MR. SANTRY HAS BEEN APPOINTED. THIS IS JUST CITY RESIDENTS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND (INDISCERNIBLE).

WE HAVE (NAME), (NAME) AND (NAME).

THIS IS CITY RESIDENTS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS. AND WE HAVE MR. LOGAN EASON, WHO RECEIVED THREE TOP CHOICES OR NUMBER ONES.

SO MOTION TO APOINT MR. EASTON?

>> I SO MOVE. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION?EEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

SO ON YOUR BALLOTS, CITY ATTORNEY, WHY DON'T YOU COLLECT

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ALL THE BALLOTS? >> (INDISCERNIBLE) PIECES OF

PAPER (INDISCERNIBLE). >> SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, CITY MANAGER, THE CRA WILL BE MEETING TOMORROW?

>> CORRECT. >> JUST FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, I HAD PREPLANNED FOR (INDISCERNIBLE) OUT OF TOWN TOMORROW. I WILL NOT BE THERE (INDISCERNIBLE). HOWEVER, MR. GEORGE IS HERE.

WE HAVE POWERPOINTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE CAN PROVIDE THOSE. >> AND TO ALL THE CANDIDATES, THANK YOU FOR STEPPING FORWARD, WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR CITY. FOR ANY CANDIDATES THAT DID NOT MAKE THIS BOARD, THERE ARE OTHER OPENINGS ON OTHER BOARDS.

AND WE DESPERATELY NEED CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT.

SO PLEASE, CONSIDER SOME OTHER POSITIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

[11. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

SO ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH! ALL RIGHT. ITEM 11, CITY MANAGER REPORTS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST, WE ARE SCHEDULING THIS FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY THE CITY HALL PARKING LOT WILL BE CLOSED DUE TO FUMIGATION EFFORTS THAT I DISCUSSED IN MY PRIOR NOTES.

CITY HALL WILL BE TENTED AND CITY STAFF WILL NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE BUILDING OVER THE WEEKEND.

WE ALSO HAVE THE VETERANS DAY. THE CITY IS CLOSED ON FRIDAY ANYWAY, BUT WE DO HAVE THE VETERANS PARADE AT 11:00 DOWNTOWN ON FRIDAY. NEXT WEEK, SANITATION EVALUATION COMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING.

AND WE DID OPEN PROPOSALS. RECEIVED THREE PROPOSALS.

A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SANITATION DIVISION WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU ON DECEMBER 20.

MR. SALTMARSH, WITH REGARD TO ATLANTIC SEAFOOD, HAS REQUESTED A MONTH EXTENSION TO PRESENT HIS CONCEPTUAL -- HIS ARCHITECT HAS BEEN AFFECTED BY THE HURRICANE.

SO I ASKED MR. SALTMARSH TO PROVIDE A FORMAL REQUEST TO ME IN WRITING. I'VE YET TO RECEIVE THAT BUT HE DID ASKED FOR THAT VIA TELEPHONE.

SO I EXPECT WE WILL NOT SEE THAT UNTIL THE DECEMBER 6 MEETING TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU. AND PENDING ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

>> OF THE ONE QUESTION I HAD IS HOW MUCH TIME ARE WE GOING TO GIVE MR. SALTMARSH? THIS HAS BEEN DRAGGING ON, DRAGGING ON. SO HOW MANY ALLOWANCES IS THE COMMISSION -- BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, HE IS IN DEFAULT.

AS OF TONIGHT, MR. SALTMARSH IS IN DEFAULT OF THE LEASE.

AND I SEE SEVERAL LIGHTS ON. BUT THAT'S THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK THIS BODY. AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE WHO CAME ON FIRST. SO I'LL DO IT ALPHABETICALLY.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> MY LIGHT DID COME ON FIRST! I HAVE A QUESTION. IT IS BEEN SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THE SEAWALL AND -- IS THE NUMBER 1 -- OBJECTIVE OF THE CITY COMMISSION. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS. WE NOW HAVE A MILLION-DOLLAR GRANT TO DO DESIGN. BUT THE STICKING POINT IS WHAT TO DO WITH THE AREA JUST NORTH OF PARKING LOT A.

BECAUSE THERE IS ONE PROPERTY THERE.

IN GOING NORTH FROM THERE STOP THERE WAS A LETTER, APPARENTLY, CIRCULATED THAT WENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

TWO OF THEM APPARENTLY HAVE SIGNED IT.

AND THAT WAS TO BE SUBMITTED -- ONCE SAID THEY WERE NOT CAN ASSIGN IT, AND ONE HASN'T APPARENTLY COMMITTED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. AND APPARENTLY, THE NEXT STEP WAS TO SEND THIS TO ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT AND THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. SO WHAT'S THE PLAN?

>> SO --

>> WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME PLAN BY NOVEMBER 1. SO

NOVEMBER 1 HAS COME AND GONE. >> SO THE INTENT IS THAT WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. THE NEXT AVAILABLE AGENDA IS DECEMBER 6. SO MR. GEORGE AND I WILL PREPARE A RESOLUTION TO ASK YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE THREE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE COLLABORATED WITH THE CITY. AS COMMISSIONER ROSS INDICATED, WE SENT LETTERS TO FIVE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.

ONE HAS DECLINED TO SIGN AND THERE'S BEEN NO RESPONSE FROM THE OTHERS. THE TWO HAVE SIGNED IT.

SO AS WAS INDICATED, WE HAVE $1 MILLION TO DESIGN SO CITY STAFF IS GONNA PREPARE RESOLUTION ASKING YOUR AUTHORIZATION TO

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AGENDA. >> THANK YOU.> COMMISSIONER

STURGES. >> THANK YOU.

I WASN'T GOING DOWN THAT ROAD. WE STARTED A WHOLE NEW ROAD (LAUGHING), BUT SINCE WE ARE THERE -- SO THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T SIGNED, THEY DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TIME PERIOD POSSIBLY TO SIGN?

>> UNTIL WE PUBLISH THE AGENDA. >> UNTIL WE PUBLISH THE AGENDA.

>> WHICH WILL BE NOVEMBER 30. (INDISCERNIBLE) DECEMBER 6.

>> CORRECT. >> I THINK THAT'S THE CORRECT

THING TO DO. >> THEY'VE HAD THE LETTER SINCE AUGUST 30. I THINK, AS MAYOR POINTED OUT WITH MR. SALTMARSH, WE CAN ONLY WAIT SO LONG.

WE HAVE THAT MENTAL AND DOLLARS.WITH THE FINALIZE THAT GRANT WITH THE STATE. REMEMBER, WE ARE OPERATING ON THE STATE FISCAL YEAR. THE STATE FISCAL YEAR ENDS JUNE 30. SO WE NEED TO GET CRACKING ON THAT AND WORK ON THE PRE-APPLICATION AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. SO IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON.

>> AS FAR AS THE SALTMARSH THING WITH ATLANTIC SEAFOOD, AT

WHAT TIME IS HE REQUESTING? >> TILL THE END OF THE MONTH.

THE END OF NOVEMBER. ONE MORE MONTH.

AND I KNOW (INDISCERNIBLE) IS TALK TO HIS ATTORNEY AND BASICALLY INDICATED WITH THE MAYOR SAID.

YOU ARE IN DEFAULT OF THE LEASE AND GOTTA KEEP IT MOVING

FORWARD. >> OKAY.

I COULD GO GRANTING IT UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH.

THAT'S MY OPINION. BUT THAT'S JUST ONE.

THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

(INDISCERNIBLE) OF GRANTING MR. SALTMARSH (INDISCERNIBLE).

AND IF HE DOESN'T HAVE PLANS IN DECEMBER, WHAT WILL OUR ACTION

BE? >> HE'S IN DEFAULT.

DEFAULT OF THE LEASE. >> WE WILL FIND THEM IN DEFAULT AND TERMINATE THE LEASE? OR JUST NOTIFY HE'S IN DEFAULT?

LET'S I KEEP PLAYING THIS GAME. >> I DON'T HAVE A LEASE IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. ALL OF THIS CAME TO LIGHT AT THE END OF THE AFTERNOON TODAY. THE LEASE IS NOT GOING TO PROVIDE YOU THE RIGHT TO JUST TERMINATE IT ON THE SPOT BECAUSE HE IS IN DEFAULT. YOU HAVE TO GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROCURE. THAT'S PROBABLY, MY GUESS IS 10 DAYS. SO HE'D PROBABLY GET ANOTHER 10 DAYS TO GET HIS PLANS IN, POTENTIALLY.

>> THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER, YOU MET WITH (NAME), CORRECTLY WHERE ARE WE WITH (NAME)?

>> WE MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CENTER STREET RESTAURANT GROUP, WHO IS THE CITY'S LEE C. IT OF COURSE, BRAD IS SUBLESSEE. THEIR CPA, THE CITY'S COMPTROLLER, AND THE MANAGER AND I AND CENTER STREETS ATTORNEY.O WE DID RECEIVE CONFIDENTIAL FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS FROM THEM TO EVALUATE AND COME UP WITH THE NUMBER THAT THEY WANTED THE CITY TO PAY.

WHICH THEY BELIEVE WOULD BE DAMAGES THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR BREAKING THE LEASE EARLY.

OR TERMINATING THE LEASE EARLY. THERE'S THREE MORE YEARS LEFT ON THE LEASE AS OF DECEMBER 31 OF THIS YEAR.

SO AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T MADE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PUBLIC STOP AND FRANKLY, IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE, SOMETIMES.

BUT THEY ARE EAGER AND WE ARE EAGER TO, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, COME UP WITH A NUMBER. AND AT THE SAME TIME, THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE IN EXCESS OF $1 MILLION.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S DEMOLITION COSTS FOR THAT.

THE CITY DOES HAVE SOME ARPA FUNDS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO HELP PWITH THE DEMOLITION. BUT WE GOTTA GET THROUGH THIS LEASE FIRST. AND SO, LIKE I SAID, WE WILL HAVE A NUMBER AND WE WILL HAVE BACKUP DOCUMENTS.

AND WE WILL HAVE AN OPINION FROM MYSELF, FROM OUR COMPTROLLER WAS THAT THESE DOCUMENTS ARE ALL CONFIDENTIAL.

THEY WILL ALWAYS SAY CONFIDENTIAL BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSIDERED TRADE SECRETS AND PROPRIETARY.UT WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU. AND ALSO, POTENTIALLY, A METHOD TO PAY FOR IT. WE ARE HOPING THAT A PRIVATE PARTY WILL STEP UP THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN LEASING THE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY. AND HELPING THE CITY PAY THE COSTS OF THE BUYOUT. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THIS BUDGETED. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS, WE SHOULD (INDISCERNIBLE).

IT WILL BE AFTER THE NOVEMBER 15 CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

[12. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEE NONE, THANK YOU. CITY CLERK.

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JEANETTE, WE JUST COME UP FOR A MINUTE? SO WE HAVE ALMOST 1800 MEMBERS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

(INDISCERNIBLE). JEANETTE IS -- DID YOU WANT TO

SAY SOMETHING? >> SURE.

(INDISCERNIBLE) SUP I ACTUALLY REPRESENT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN THE FARTHEST POINT FROM HERE IN MONROE COUNTY.

SO IT WAS VERY INTERESTING BEING ON THIS SIDE.

I WAS IN TENNESSEE HELPING FAMILY.

IT TOOK 10 HOURS TO GET HERE, BUT I MADE IT.

I'M GLAD I COULD MAKE IT. WE ARE GOING TOMORROW TO LOOK AT THE HOTEL FOR OUR 46TH ANNUAL CONFERENCE.

IT WILL BE OUR 50TH ANNIVERSARY.

WE ARE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT -- LOCAL GOVERNMENT -- LOCAL CITY COUNTY GOVERNMENT SECTION OF THE FLORIDA BAR.

WE ARE THE ONLY SECTION THAT REPRESENTS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

AND HAVING 1800 MEMBERS ACROSS THE STATE, YOU CAN IMAGINE IT'S REALLY GOOD GROUP. I WANTED O COME HERE AND IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO DRIVE VERY FAST TO GET HERE JUST TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING TAMMY TO SERVE AS OUR CHAIR-ELECT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT AND ENERGY GOES INTO IT? ON A PERSONAL NOTE, 15 YEARS AGO I WAS A BRAND-NEW ATTORNEY.

I WALKED INTO CCLGP AND SHE WAS THE FIRST PERSON I MET.

AND SET OUT I WILL TAKE YOU UNDER MY WING AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THE ROPES. 15 YEARS LATER, MULTIPLE AGENCIES LATER, HERE I AM AS CHAIR OF THE SECTION.

SO THANK YOU, TAMMY, FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US.

THIS WAS A GREAT MEETING TO WATCH.

[13. CITY CLERK REPORTS]

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

CITY CLERK. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GO VOTE IF THEY HAVEN'T YET. EARLY VOTING IS BEING CONDUCTED NOW. IN THE GENERAL ELECTION AS WELL AS THE COUNTY ELECTIONS ARE NEXT TUESDAY.

AND I WANTED TO EXPRESS CONDOLENCES TO SUPER VISOR

[14. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

SENDING THEM THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SINCE WE LAST MET I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO DESK I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THE YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL ON THE VERY SUCCESSFUL MOVIE NIGHT. THEY DID A GREAT JOB POSTING THAT AND I WAS HAPPY TO GO AND ATTEND.

ON FRIDAY, WHAT A GREAT EVENT WE HAD DOWNTOWN WITH THE DOWNTOWN (INDISCERNIBLE). I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO STAND WITH THE COP SECTION FOR JUST A QUICK SECOND AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE GOING ON. A BIG TURNOUT FOR MARKETS IN THE COMMUNITY. WITH THAT, (INDISCERNIBLE) THE FIREFIGHTERS. THEY HAD A GREAT (INDISCERNIBLE) CEREMONY ON FRIDAY.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THIS FRIDAY.O IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE AGO LAST TIME, THIS FRIDAY IS A GREAT CHANCE TO GO.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET'S GET OUT AND VOTE.

I'LL SEE YOU AT THE POLLS A WEEK FROM TODAY IS ELECTION DAY. BUT WHO IS COUNTING?

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

MAYOR STURGIS. >> I'LL MAKE IT VERY BRIEF AFTER ALL OF THAT. YES, JUST PLEASE GET OUT AND VOTE.VERY VOTE COUNTS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE AN INTRICATE PART OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO BE INVOLVED AND CONCERNED WITH YOUR CITY OR COUNTY SO PLEASE JUST GET OUT AND VOTE.

(INDISCERNIBLE). I AM GLAD TO BE HERE.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT MEETING IT IS AT THIS POINT! [LAUGHTER] BUT THANK YOU AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING.> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I USUALLY GO FIRST, BUT BRADLEY BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH! HALLOWEEN, I WAS DRIVING SOMEWHERE. I DROVE UP CENTER STREET NICE OF WHAT IS GOING ON? AND THERE WERE MORE KIDS AND MORE MOMS. I MEAN, I WAS LIKE WHAT IS GOING ON? I FOUND OUT IT WAS TRICK-OR-TREAT. I WANT TO SHOUT OUT TO THE POLICE, BOTH THE SHERIFF AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, MERCHANTS ON MAIN STREET FOR PUTTING OUT A GREAT EVENT FOR OUR KIDS. IT WAS JUST AMAZING.

I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MANY KIDS! I ALSO, THERE'S A GROUP OF CITIZENS ON ESCAMBIA STREET WHO PICKED UP A BUNCH OF TRASH AND

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I WENT TO THE BID OPENING AND THERE WERE THREE MAJOR COMPANIES THERE. THEY WERE ASKED IN A ASK FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT COULD WE HAVE DONE BETTER IN PRESENTING A BID? AND THIS IS A MAJOR BID.

IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT.

AND THEY WERE ALL EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY COMPLEMENTARY.

ON HOW WELL THE BID WAS PUT TOGETHER.

AND WHAT A GREAT JOB THAT WAS DONE.HEY HAVE VERY FEW QUESTIONS. THESE ARE THREE MAJOR COMPANIES, WASTE MANAGEMENT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR TRASH COMPANIES IN THE UNITED STATES. AND THEY ALL HAD EXTREMELY COMPLEMENTARY THINGS TO SAY ABOUT OUR BID PROCESS AND THE PEOPLE WHO PUT IT TOGETHER. SO SHOUT OUT TO THEM.

THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. AND OF COURSE, I WANT TO PASS ON THE CONDOLENCES TO THE ATKINS FAMILY ON THE LOSS OF THEIR DAUGHTER. THE SERVICES WERE THIS PAST WEEKEND. AND JUST HEARTBREAKING.

AND YOU KNOW, SATURDAY NIGHT, WE HAD ANOTHER TRAGEDY.

CHET (NAME), THE OWNER OF THE BOAT HOUSE POSTED THIS ON FACEBOOK. AND I WANTED TO READ IT.

THE BOAT HAS FAMILY AND FRIENDS ARE MOURNING THE LOSS OF ONE IN OUR FAMILY, TANYA LYNN WILLIAMSON.

TONYA LEFT US UNEXPECTEDLY SATURDAY NIGHT.

AS SHE WAS IN A TRAGIC AND FATAL AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT AS SHE WAS DRIVING HOME FROM WORK. PLEASE PRAY FOR HER LOVED ONES AS SHE LEAVES BEHIND A HUSBAND AND FIVE CHILDREN.

WE WILL MISS TONYA MORE THAN WORDS CAN EXPRESS.

TONYA WAS NOT JUST A COWORKER, BUT SHE WAS OUR GOOD FRIEND AS WELL. HEAVEN HAS GAINED AN ANGEL.

NOW, THERE IS A FUNDRAISER AT 4:30 TOMORROW AT THE BOATHOUSE FOR THE FAMILY. THERE'S ALSO A GOFUNDME PAGE.

AND IF YOU JUST TYPE IN WILLIAMSON ON THE GOFUNDME PAGE, HER PAGE WILL COME UP. SO THAT IF YOU WANT TO DONATE AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE FAMILY, YOU CAN DO SO.

SO AGAIN, HEARTFELT CONDOLENCES TO THE WILLIAMSON FAMILY.

THERE ARE LOTS OF EVENTS. EARLY VOTING ENDS FRIDAY.

THE GENERAL ELECTION IS NEXT TUESDAY.

PLEASE VOTE. ON NOVEMBER 5 AND SIX IS THE RIGHT WHEEL FESTIVAL AT MAINE BEACH.

NOVEMBER 11 IS THE VETERANS DAY FUND RUN AT 8:00 FROM PARKING LOT A. THAT SAME DAY, THE VETERANS DAY PARADE IS AT 11 A.M. THE NORMAL PARADE ROUTE. NOVEMBER 11 THROUGH THE 13TH IS THE AMELIA ISLAND OPEN. THAT'S IN LOTS C AND D. ON NOVEMBER 12 IS THE TASTE OF AMELIA, FROM 11 TO 3 P.M. IN THE POCKET PARK. THERE ARE TWO

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