[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> I CALL TO ORDER THE NOVEMBER 1, 2022, CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> VICE MAYOR KREGER. MR. STURGES.
PERSONAL DEVICES, IF YOU CAN TURN THEM TO SILENT, AIRPLANE MODE, OR TOTALLY OFF, THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC.
LAST MEETING WE HAD ONE GOING OFF TWO OR THREE TIMES, SO WE DO HEAR THAT. SO GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
COVID-19, DO WHATEVER STEPS NECESSARY TO PROTECT YOUR HEALTH AND SAFETY, THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OTHERS.
[3.1 LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES]
ALL RIGHT. ON TO DISCUSSION 2.1, LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. CITY MANAGER.>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AS IS USUALLY THE CASE, THE LEGISLATURE NEXT YEAR OR THIS YEAR DOESN'T MEET UNTIL MARCH.
SO WE HAVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO PREPARE OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. BASED UPON DISCUSSION WITH ALL OF YOU, INCLUDING THE VICE MAYOR, THERE WERE FOUR CONSIDERATIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED WITH ALL OF YOU FOR FUNDING LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. THE FIRST, WHAT STAFF WANTS DIRECTION FROM IS PRIORITIZING THESE, AND THEN CITY STAFF WILL PREPARE A RESOLUTION TO BRING BACK TO YOU IN DECEMBER SO WE ARE PREPARED TO GO TO THE LEGISLATIVE DISCUSSION, THE DELEGATION WILL HAVE TWO NEW MEMBERS.
THE ELECTION WILL DEPEND WHO THEY ARE.
AND WE WILL FORMALIZE THAT. SO THE FOUR UNDER CONSIDERATION OR THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH ALL OF YOU WERE RESILIENCY.
WE HAVE A APPROPRIATION IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR THE DESIGN OF THE SEAWALL. WHAT WE REMEMBER IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF SAID SEAWALL. TWO IS BEACH WALKOVERS.
THREE WAS DOWNTOWN LIGHTING. AN FOUR WAS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE OR CITY FACILITIES. THOSE ARE THE FOUR FUNDING ONES.
THERE WERE TWO OR THREE OTHERS THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH REGARD TO LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, WHICH WE RECEIVED SOME PUSHBACK SAYING UNTIL YOU GET OTHER COMMUNITIES INVOLVED STATEWIDE, YOU MAY BE SPINNING YOUR WHEELS TO GET THE LEGISLATORS TO HOLD TIGHT TO THAT. ONE WAS THE TRUE PROTECTION PREEMPTION. THE SECOND WAS THE REPEAL OF THE STATUTE THAT PROHIBITS THE CITY FROM DONATING LAND.
THE LAST ONE IS PROBABLY MORE OF A POLICY ISSUE THAT I CAN TAKE UP WITH OUR NEW LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION TO HAVE A STATE PREPARE A FRAMEWORK FOR OUR REQUEST FOR INSURANCE WAIVERS.
WE HAVE APPLIED FOR IT. OF COURSE WORK THE STATE STATUTES. THEY APPARENTLY HAVE NO POLICY ON HOW TO CONSIDER OUR APPLICATION.
SO I WILL WORK WITH OUR STATE OFFICIALS TO TRY TO DO THAT UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ONES YOU WISH TO OFFER.
I KNOW VICE MAYOR KREGER MENTIONED AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT THAT WAS JUST KIND OF... I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY SPECIFICS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OR YOU
WANT US TO PRIORITIZE. >> OKAY.
I'LL OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONERS?
>> I'LL LOOKING FOR LIGHTS. COMMISSIONER BEAN.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK FUNDING IS THE WAY TO GO. I THINK OUR TOP PROJECTS ARE SEAWALL/RIVERWALK CONSTRUCTION. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THE LIST. THAT'S MY NUMBER ONE.
I'M WILLING TO COMPROMISE. WE GET THREE.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY ALL THREE RIGHT NOW.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> COME ON, GIVE US THE THREE.
>> COMMISSIONER STURGES? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST IS FUNDING THE SEAWALL.
UNLESS WE HAVE A SPECIFIC PROJECT FOR OUR BUILDING MAINTENANCE, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BUILDING MAINTENANCE IF WE HAVE A SPECIFIC ITEM WE ARE GOING TO FUND AND ASK FOR LEGISLATIVE FUNDING FOR WITH OUR MAINTENANCE. I WOULD WANT IT TO BE VERY
SPECIFIC IF WE DO THAT. >> CITY HALL.
>> CORRECT. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.
>> TO REPAIR CITY HALL. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT ONE OF
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OUR THREE, I'LL MAKE THAT ONE OF MY TWO.LASTLY, YOU SAID STREET LIGHTS AND WHAT ELSE WAS THERE?
>> WALKOVERS. >> BEACH WALKOVERS, SO MY THREE WOULD BE BEACH WALKOVER, FUNDING CITY HALL AND RESILIENCY.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.
>> WE COULD DO FOUR. BUT THE SEAWALL, THE CITY HALL, DOWNTOWN, BEACH WALKOVER, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.
AS FAR AS THE LOCAL LAW, THERE IS NO... I THINK IT'S A MOOT POINT. THE CITY OWNS NO LAND TO DONATE, SO FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ANYTHING ELSE.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST A WASTE OF LEGISLATIVE TIME.
PREEMPTION, UNLESS YOU CAN SHOW ME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WORTH WHILE.
I DO NOT THINK THEY SHOULD BE PREEMPTING OUR LAW, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY TRACTION THERE.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO. AS FAR AS THE INSURANCE WAIVER, THAT'S A POLICY DECISION. I THINK THE LAWS ARE ALWAYS
COMMISSIONER BEAN, I HAVE RESILIENCY AS NUMBER ONE FROM THE THREE OF YOU, AND THEN CITY HALL NUMBER TWO, AND THEN THE BEACHWALK IS NUMBER THREE. WHAT'S YOUR PRIORITY ON THE
OTHER TWO? >> I CAN SECOND THAT PRIORITY, AS WELL. THE REASON I LIKE THAT BEACH WALKOVER, IT'S SMALLER CHUNK. THE $250,000 TO $300,000, THE OTHERS ARE BOTH BIG-TICKET ITEMS. SO THROW IN $250,000 TO $300, 000, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE WE CAN GET THAT ONE IF IT'S NOT A BIG YEAR.
I WOULD PUT THAT ONE THREE FOR OUR REASON.
LET'S SAY IT'S NOT OUR PRIORITY. THEN WE'LL GET OUR TOP PRIORITY AND WE WON'T GET DOWN TO CITY HALL.
LET'S RANK IT LIKE THAT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> COMMISSIONER ROSS, DID YOU RETURN YOUR LIGHT ON OR NOT TURN
>> THANK YOU, SIR. SO I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS THAT RESILIENCY IS NUMBER ONE. CITY HALL IS NUMBER TWO.
AND THE BEACH WALKOVER IS NUMBER THREE.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON
[3.2 PLANNING AND CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT - TREE ASSESSMENT PLAN]
LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES? SEEING NONE WE'LL GO TO 3.2.THE CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT PREASSESSMENT PLAN.
BASED ON THE AGENDA BY THE CITY COMMISSION FOLLOWING OUR DISCUSSION ON AUGUST 16TH. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.
>> I'LL SEE IF I CAN CALL IT UP. >> WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO CALL IT UP. OUR COMPUTERS ARE DOWN.
I WAS RELYING ON MINE. >> CHARLIE GEORGE, CITY ENGINEER, COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR.
THE TREE RISK MANAGEMENT PLAN, THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS OF IT.
ONE ARE TREES THAT ARE HAZARD RISKS, EITHER THE CONDITION OR THE POTENTIAL TO CAUSE HAZARD BY FALLING ON SOMETHING.
THE OTHER IS JUST THE TREE MANAGEMENT INVENTORY, WHERE DOCUMENT IS ABOUT 14,000 OR SO, PLUS OR MINUS.
TREES THAT WE MONITOR. A LOT OF THOSE ARE IN THE GOLF COURSE OR THE CEMETERY. WE USE THE DATABASE FROM LIKE 2019, 2016 I THINK IS WHAT IT IS.
2009, 2016 TO HAVE THAT INVENTORY.
WHAT WE DO IS ONCE WE HAVE THAT INVENTORY, WE TAKE THEM DOWN BASED ON SIZE AND KIN, THE CONDITIONS ARE GOOD, FAIR, DEAD, POOR. BASED ON THOSE CATEGORIES, WE ADDRESS THOSE AS NEEDED AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE, PRUNING, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO IT'S AN ANALYTICAL ARBORIST THING. SO WE'LL HIT IT WITH A RUBBER MALLET AND SEE IF IT'S HALLOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
OUR STREETS DEPARTMENT DAILY, THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING AT TREES.
THERE IS HAZARD OF THEM FALLING ON VEHICLES, FALLING ON HOUSES.
SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF PLANNING A CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT AND THE STREETS DEPARTMENT, LOOKING AT TREES AS WE GO. IT'S A MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE KIND OF HAVE USED. IT BASICALLY GETS FORMALIZED.
SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE HAZARD RISK.
THE CITY WIDE TREE INVENTORY MANAGEMENT AND DAY PA BASE.
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YOU LOOK FOR THOSE TREES. YOU CAN GO OUT AND CHECK THAT TRADITION. THAT'S BASICALLY IT.>> CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN THAT DOCUMENT A LITTLE?
>> KEEP GOING? >> YEAH, KEEP GOING.
WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TREES AND THE NUMBER OF
HAZARDOUS TREES. >> 14,034 TREES ARE INVENTORIED, INVENTORY.907 ARE IN THAT HAZARK ZONE.
>> SO OF THE 904, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY ARE DEAD AND NEED TO BE
TAKEN DOWN? >> I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER. THAT'S WHAT WE CHECKED.
THE ARBORIST GOES AND DOES AN ASSESSMENT.
IT COULD BE JUST PRUNING, YOU KNOW, A LIMB IS ABOUT TO FALL.
MOST CASES IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE WHOLE TREE FALLING.
IT'S A PRUNING DEAL. I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER.
>> SO THE HAZARDOUS TREES, ARE THEY GRADED AS TO SIGNIFICANT
HAZARD, LIKELY HAZARD? >> YES, THEY DO... 21 INCHES OR LARGER, THEY'RE CRITICAL, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE IN EXTREME HAZARD.
AND THEN IT WORKS THEIR WAY DOWN TO THE ONES THAT ARE FAIR, ONES THAT WE NEED TO WATCH TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL. SO THEY HAVE THE SAME KIND OF
CATEGORIZATION. >> DENNIS: OKAY.
SO WE'LL WORK ON THE EXTREME HAZARD FIRST.
>> THAT'S THE FIRST THING TO DO. >> OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THIS?
COMMISSIONER STURGES? >> CHARLIE, SO BASICALLY 6.3% IS 904, CLOSE TO 6.2%, 6.3% OF THE 13,034 TREES IN THE INVENTORY.
SO LIKE THE MAYOR WAS QUESTIONING ABOUT THE COMPLETELY DEAD TREES OR THE NEED-TO-BE-TRIMMED TREES, SO WE DON'T HAVE A FULL ASSESSMENT. WE'VE NEVER DONE A FULL
ASSESSMENT, CORRECT? >> I DON'T THINK WE'VE DIDN'T A
RECENT FULL ASSESSMENT. >> OKAY.
>> BUT WE ARE MONITORING, LIKE I SAY, THE STREET GUYS ARE COMING BACK AND COMMENTING, HEY, WE GOT A POTENTIAL ONE WE NEED TO ADDRESS, OR SOMEBODY NOTICES AND TAKES NOTE.
>> OKAY. >> A LOT OF THEM ARE IN THAT
CEMETERY/GOLF COURSE AREA. >> OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE ANSWER TO MY
QUESTION. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO? WE'RE GOOD? WE LIKE IT? OKAY.
GOOD JOB. LOOK FORWARD TO THE WORK.
>> THANK YOU. >> IT WILL BE PRETTY QUICK.
ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS? I KNOW COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU HAD A COUPLE OF CARRY-OVERS.
>> WELL, I'M NOT PREPARED. >> I UNDERSTAND.
>> BECAUSE I WAS TOLD TO BE PREPARED FOR THIS.
HAVING NO OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS, WE WILL BE ADJOURNED UNTIL
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.