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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO ALL TONIGHT.[Candidate Forum]
MY NAME IS LON SAPP, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO THE CONCERNED FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA.I'VE BEEN A MEMBER FOR FOR A LONG TIME, EVER SINCE THE ORGANIZATION WAS FORMED.
THE ORIGINAL ONE WAS FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA, AND THAT WAS BACK IN 2000.
WE WERE PUTTING TOGETHER A BOND ISSUE TO BUY LANDS, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LANDS HERE IN THE CITY OF FERNANDINA.
AND A GROUP OF PEOPLE GOT TOGETHER AND SAID, LISTEN, WE MIGHT NEED TO ORGANIZE AND GO DOOR TO DOOR AND CALL PEOPLE AND WEAR T SHIRTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND WE DID. AND THE BOND ISSUE PASSED.
AND SO FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA KIND OF WENT AWAY.
AND IN 2003, JULIE FERRARO BACK THERE KIND OF RESURRECTED THE ORGANIZATION AND CALLED IT CONCERNED FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA.
SO THAT CONCERTED PART KIND OF REALLY ENERGIZES YOU, I GUESS.
SO THE ORIGINAL BOND EXCUSE ME, THE ORIGINAL BOARD, A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN JOINING CONCERNED FRIENDS OF FERNANDA, BUT I'M A REPUBLICAN OR I'M A DEMOCRAT, OR I'M A THIS OR I'M OF THAT POLITICAL PARTY. DOESN'T MATTER.
AND YOU WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD WITH US, THE ORIGINAL BOARD.
AND I GET THAT THERE WERE THREE REPUBLICANS, ONE DEMOCRAT, ONE LIBERTARIAN, AND ONE PROGRESSIVE.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
MAYBE, MAYBE SOME OF YOU DID, BUT IT WAS JUST A GREAT BOARD, WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH.
AND WHEN AN ISSUE CAME UP CONCERNING THE QUALITY OF LIFE, WE ALL GOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
AND JULIE IS ALWAYS BEEN, I FEEL LIKE THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE ORGANIZATION.
AND THEN SHE WOULD TAKE IT AND SHE WOULD RUN WITH IT AND SHE WOULD DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.
ONE OF THE THINGS THE BOARD STARTED DOING IS HAVING MEET YOUR CANDIDATE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
FIND OUT THESE PEOPLE HAVE SOME OF THE SAME IDEAS, THE SAME IDEOLOGY, THE SAME CARES, THE SAME CONCERNS THAT YOU DO. LISTEN TO THEM, LISTEN TO THEM.
AND SO WITH WITH THAT, I WILL GIVE YOU ONE LAST PITCH FOR CONCERNED FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA IF YOU WANT. IF THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, PLEASE GIVE JULIE FERREIRA OR MYSELF A CALL.
I'M IN THE BOOK OR I'M SURE JULIA IS IN THE BOOK OR SOMEWHERE.
SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO THE MODERATOR, SARAH PALIN.
THANK YOU, RON, AND GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
UNFORTUNATELY, TWO OF THE CANDIDATES, AS YOU CAN SEE, COULD NOT JOIN US THIS EVENING.
CHELSEA LAMAR AND DARREN ASKEW ARE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.
WE'RE SORRY THAT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO SHARE THEIR IDEAS AND THEIR OPINIONS WITH THE PUBLIC.
SO AND WITH THAT SAID, WE ALSO WELCOME YOU IN THE AUDIENCE AND AUDIENCE MEMBERS.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ASKED, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HERE WHO CAN GIVE YOU CARDS TO FILL OUT, AND WE WILL TRY AND GET TO THOSE QUESTIONS AFTER OUR QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION.
OUR TIME IS SHORT, SO EVERY AUDIENCE QUESTION CANNOT BE ASKED.
BUT THE CONCERNED FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA BEACH WILL REVIEW THE QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THE SAME QUESTION OVER AND OVER AGAIN, OUR FORUM TONIGHT.
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IT IS ALSO BEING SIMULTANEOUSLY LIVE STREAMED ON THE FERNANDINA BEACH CITY WEBSITE AND ON COMCAST CHANNEL 264, WHICH IS THE FERNANDINA BEACH EDUCATION STATION.TONIGHT'S FORMAT INCLUDES UNANNOUNCED QUESTIONS AND OUR TIME KEEPERS ARE JAN COTE.
MAURO JAN. CAN YOU WAVE YOUR SIGN? SO JAMB WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THERE ARE 30 SECONDS LEFT.
AND TERRY, CAN YOU SAVE YOURS? TERRY WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN TIME IS UP.
AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, I'LL GET THE HOOK OR NOT.
WE AT THIS POINT, INVITE EACH OF OUR CANDIDATES TO TAKE UP TO 2 MINUTES TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND TELL US WHY YOU DECIDED TO RUN FOR ELECTION TO BECOME A COMMISSIONER FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH.
AND WE WILL START ALPHABETICALLY WITH GROUP FOUR AND THEN MOVE DOWN THE LINE.
SO, MR. JAMES ANTIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? SURE. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU TO THE CONCERNED FRIENDS OF FERNANDA FOR HOLDING THIS FORUM.
MY WIFE AND I STARTED OUR BUSINESS IN THIS TOWN SIX YEARS AGO, AND WE FEEL ABSOLUTELY WELCOMED TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FLOURISH HERE AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE USING THE RESOURCES THAT WE'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH FROM THAT RESOURCE TO GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE'VE DONE THIS.
BECOMING A GUARDIAN FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, DONATING TO NO LESS THAN THREE YOUTH SPORTS TEAMS, GIVING A VOLUNTEER DAY AT NASSAU BEAUTIFUL WITH THE POWER OF GIRL GROUP THAT I USED TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF.
THESE ARE THE KIND OF COMMUNITY EFFORTS, IF YOU'VE HEARD ME SPEAK AT PREVIOUS FORUMS, THAT I BELIEVE THINGS LIKE THIS ARE THESE SOCIAL INSTITUTIONS, GROUPS LIKE THIS HOSTING THIS VERY FORUM ARE THE SOCIAL INSTITUTIONS THAT WILL ALWAYS BE ABLE TO FILL IN THE GAPS BETWEEN WHERE OUR CITY GOVERNMENT SIMPLY CANNOT COVER EVERYTHING.
SO AS YOUR FUTURE CITY COMMISSIONER, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL SEE ME AS THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR RESPONSIBLE CONTROL OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO RESPECT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU.
I'M FERNANDINA BEACH MAYOR MIKE LEIBOVICH.
AND A PHRASE YOU WILL HEAR ME SAY OVER AND OVER TONIGHT.
FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS, I HAVE FOUGHT TO PROTECT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
SO WE PLACED 30 ACRES OF LAND INTO CONSERVATION THAT CANNOT BE DEVELOPED.
DURING THOSE FOUR YEARS, I HAVE OPPOSED NUMEROUS DEVELOPERS WHO WANTED TO REZONE LAND.
HAD THOSE PROPOSALS PASSED, WE WOULD NOW HAVE 500 ADDITIONAL HOMES IN THIS CITY.
PASSED AN ORDINANCE TO BAN SMOKING ON OUR BEACHES AND IN OUR PARKS.
FORT LAUDERDALE JUST FOLLOWED OUR LEAD.
LAST WEEK, WE BUILT A NEW SEAWALL AND BOARDWALK ON THE SOUTH PART OF THE MARINA, AND IT WAS SPECTACULAR HOW IT PERFORMED DURING THIS LATEST STORM.
I WAS PART OF A COALITION THAT BLOCKED THE EXPANSION OF THE PORT, TRYING TO GO INTO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, STOP THEM DEAD IN THEIR TRACKS.
I VOTED AGAINST RELOCATING THE SPORTS FIELDS FROM CENTRAL PARK OUT TO E BORE ALVAREZ.
I STRENGTHENED THE CITY'S TREE ORDINANCE, VOTED FOR THE REPAIR OF THE CITY MARINA AND REIMBURSEMENT, VOTED TO PLACE AN ADDITIONAL $250,000 FOR IMPROVEMENT OF OUR STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.
I FOUGHT AND I WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR YOU.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THE MAYOR IS NOT HERE.
OH, I'M SORRY, NICOLA, YOU'RE NEXT.
THANK YOU. CONCERNED FRIENDS OF FERN, DONNA AND AUDIENCE FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.
MY NAME IS CHRIS NICHOLAS, AND I HAD A LIFELONG CAREER AS A FIREFIGHTER SERVING MY COMMUNITY.
DID THAT MY WHOLE LIFE, AND I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A JOB THAT I LOVED.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GAVE ME SOME SATISFACTION.
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WE'RE RETIRED HERE AND WE CARE ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE CONSERVATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL EFFORTS HERE.I DO WORK STILL TWO DAYS A WEEK HERE AT THE LOCAL Y AS A LIFEGUARD.
PEOPLE COME UP TO ME AND THEY THEY WOULD THANK ME FOR MY SERVICE AS A FIREFIGHTER.
BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU, I WAS I WAS KIND OF EMBARRASSED BY THAT.
BUT I KNOW THAT THEY WERE GENUINE IN THEIR THOUGHTS.
BUT I JUST TOOK IT AS SOMETHING THAT I LOVED TO DO.
IT WAS ENJOYABLE TO ME AND IT WAS ENJOYABLE TO GET BACK.
I LOVE THE CHALLENGE OF SOLVING PROBLEMS. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVED ABOUT THE JOB.
AND MOSTLY I KNEW I WAS HELPING OTHERS.
SO I WANT TO BE A COMMISSIONER BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THE CHALLENGES OUR WONDERFUL CITY FACES.
I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT SOLUTION.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL SKIP OVER MR. ASKEW AND MS..
MCMONAGLE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US WHY YOU DECIDED TO RUN? CERTAINLY SO. MY NAME IS STACEY MCMONAGLE, AND I'M A NATIVE FLORIDIAN.
I GREW UP AND WAS BORN IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, AND MOVED OVER TO FERNANDINA IN 1988.
I RAISED THREE GREAT KIDS HERE AND AND I LOVE THIS CITY.
THIS CITY HAS GIVEN ME SUCH A WONDERFUL LIFE, SUCH WONDERFUL FRIENDS AND GREAT OPPORTUNITIES.
AND I JUST WANT TO ACTUALLY GIVE BACK TO THE CITY.
THIS CITY HAS SUCH A WONDERFUL HISTORY AND THE PEOPLE OF IT ARE SO LOVING AND CARING THAT I REALLY WANT TO I REALLY WANT TO SEE THIS COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER AND LIKE, REALLY FLOURISH AND NOURISH ONE ANOTHER, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS OUT THERE THAT THAT I GET OUT AND TALK EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY FROM NINE IN THE MORNING UNTIL LIKE ONE IN THE AFTERNOON, KNOCKING ON DOORS AND TALKING TO PEOPLE.
AND SO IT'S MY I FEEL CALLED TO TO RUN FOR OFFICE I SERIES.
I HAVE A GRANDDAUGHTER 19 AND A GRANDSON WHO'S FIVE.
MINSHEW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT? I'LL BE. I'LL BE GLAD TO CLOSE THOSE OFF OF THIS PART OF THE FORUM.
HELLO, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR COMING.
AND THANK YOU TO THE CONCERNED FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA FOR HOSTING THIS TONIGHT.
I'M DENISE MINSHEW, AND I'M RUNNING FOR CITY COMMISSION SEAT FIVE.
SO I LOVE FERNANDINA BEACH, TOO.
MY FAMILY MOVED HERE IN THE 1930S WHEN THE MILLS OPENED, AND THEY'RE STILL HERE TODAY.
I'VE OWNED PROPERTY HERE FOR ALMOST 25 YEARS AND I'VE BEEN A FULL TIME RESIDENT FOR 14 OF THOSE.
THIS IS MY HOME AND I WANT TO HELP MAKE FERNANDINA BEACH THE BEST SMALL TOWN THAT IT CAN BE.
SO WHY AM I RUNNING? I'M RUNNING TO HELP MAKE FUNDING A BEACH CITY GOVERNMENT BETTER.
I KNOW IT CAN BE BETTER AND IT WILL BE BETTER IN THE FUTURE.
SO WHAT DOES BETTER REALLY MEAN? IT MEANS BETTER PLANNING, ESPECIALLY LONG TERM, BETTER DECISION MAKING BASED ON FACTS, NOT WHIMS AND EGOS, BETTER ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE CITY STAFF TO THE COMMISSION AND BETTER BUDGET MANAGEMENT.
IT IS A LEADERSHIP AND EXPERIENCE THAT I BRING TO THE TABLE TO DEAL WITH THE COMPLEX AND CRITICAL ISSUES WITHIN THE CITY, ISSUES INCLUDING BUDGET PLANNING, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, STRATEGIC LONG TERM THINKING AND DEVELOPMENT AND PROFESSIONALISM OF OUR CITY STAFF.
WE NEED TO SUPPORT A THRIVING BUSINESS AND TOURISM INDUSTRY WHILE DEALING WITH THE NEEDS TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND WORK THROUGH ISSUES SUCH AS INCREASED TRAFFIC, INCREASED TOURISM, INCREASED DEMAND ON OUR BEACHES, PARKS, RECREATION FACILITIES, DENSITY AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
WE ARE NOT A SIMPLE SMALL TOWN AND WE DESERVE BETTER THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE PAST.
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I RECOGNIZE THAT THE SERVICES AND THE COST OF THOSE SERVICES IMPACT OUR LOCAL CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES DIRECTLY.A QUICK LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK HERE.
IF ANYBODY HAS THEIR PHONE WITH THEM, WOULD YOU CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ON SILENT, PLEASE, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE MEAT AND OF THE MEAT AND POTATOES, I SUPPOSE, OF THIS DISCUSSION.
AND WE'D LIKE THE CANDIDATES TO BE ABLE TO CONCENTRATE.
OUR FIRST QUESTION AGAIN, WE'LL START WHERE WE STARTED WITH THE INTRODUCTIONS, MR. ANTON. SEA LEVEL RISE HAS ALREADY HAD AN IMPACT OR AN EFFECT ON THE FLORIDA ATLANTIC COAST.
EXAMPLES INCLUDE THE INCREASE IN FREQUENCY OF 100 YEAR FLOODS AND KING TIDES.
WHAT ARE THE MOST CRITICAL COMMITMENTS THE CITY SHOULD INITIATE TO MITIGATE THESE IMPACTS? WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE COMMITMENTS IS SOMETHING THAT AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING WE LISTENED TO HOW WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF SECURING THE FINALIZATION OF THE COMPLETION OF THE SEAWALL, AT LEAST FOR THE IMMEDIATE DOWNTOWN AREA.
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO POTENTIALLY BE FORGING COMMITMENTS WITH LOCAL ENTITIES, BE IT CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES OR ANY OTHER VOLUNTARY ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE INTEREST IN EFFORTS TO HELP PROVIDE THE IDEAS TO MAKE THESE KINDS OF SOLUTIONS.
BECAUSE AS ALL OF OUR CANDIDATES HERE HAVE MENTIONED, WE ALL LIVE HERE AND WE ALL LOVE THIS PLACE.
MAYOR LEDWIDGE, SAME QUESTION.
THANK YOU. SEA LEVEL RISE IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE FACING OUR ISLAND, AND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF WE GET HIT BY A STORM.
IT'S WHEN WE'VE HAD THREE STORMS IN SIX YEARS AND THIS IS A BARRIER ISLAND THAT IS VERY VULNERABLE.
NOW, THE SEAWALL, A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS WITH THE SEAWALL.
TWO IS THAT WE DON'T OWN ALL THE LAND.
SO WE HAVE IF WE WERE BUILT, BUILD A SEAWALL, THERE WOULD BE A HOLE IN THE DONUT.
WATER WOULD GET THROUGH THERE BECAUSE THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
IT WOULD FLOOD SOUTH OF THE SEAWALL.
SO THAT SEAWALL NEEDS TO BE CONTIGUOUS ALL THE WAY TO THE PORT.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHERE DO YOU GET THE MONEY TO DO THAT? HOW DO YOU GET BUY IN FROM THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS? AND SO SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS TO THAT ARE WE MAY HAVE TO ASSIST PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS IN BUILDING THEIR SEAWALLS, FINANCING IT AND HAVE THEM PAY US BACK.
THAT MAY BE ONE AVENUE WE NEED.
NOW, THE OTHER VULNERABILITIES WE HAVE OF 30 SECONDS.
ATLANTIC BOULEVARD WILL FLOOD.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT? AND TALK TO THE VICE MAYOR? RAISE ATLANTIC BOULEVARD.
ESCAMBIA BY WESTROCK WILL FLOOD AND WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT.
SO AS A BARRIER ISLAND, WE HAVE LOTS OF CHALLENGES THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. NICKLAUS. YOU NEED ME TO REPEAT THE QUESTION? YEAH. WOULD YOU PLEASE? THANKS.
SEA LEVEL RISE HAS ALREADY HAD AN EFFECT ON THE FLORIDA ATLANTIC COAST.
WHAT ARE THE MOST CRITICAL COMMITMENTS THE CITY SHOULD INITIATE TO MITIGATE THESE IMPACTS? THANK YOU. SIMPLY, I, LIKE THE OTHER CANDIDATES HAVE SAID, IS WE NEED TO FINISH THAT SEAWALL.
I MEAN, THE SEAWALL IS GOING TO BE PROVEN TO STOP THE FLOODING AND TO STOP THE FLOODING THAT WE SAW THAT OCCURRED IN THIS LAST STORM AND THE PREVIOUS STORMS. MIKE'S RIGHT. I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME OBSTACLES THAT GO.
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WE HAVE TO WE HAVE FINANCING.WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE MONEY? AND WE HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER THAT THERE'S A PARCEL THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE CAN PURCHASE IT, WHETHER HE'LL SELL IT TO US OR HOW DO WE DO THAT.
THE FINANCING PART, I THINK WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY BACK IN APRIL TO APPROACH THAT OR AT LEAST AT LEAST GET TO THAT WHEN WE WHEN THE BOND ISSUE WAS COMING UP AS A TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OPPORTUNITY TO PUT MONEY IN THERE.
TO BUILD THE SEAWALL, BUT IT FAILED.
IT JUST FAILS. AND IF YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE APRIL RECORDINGS TO SEE THAT IT FAILED, I THINK THAT WAS A LOST OPPORTUNITY. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT THAT HURT WAS THERE WERE SOME OPINIONS THAT WE NEEDED A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE RESILIENCY.
AND THEN THERE ARE SOME OTHER ITEMS WITHIN IT, TOO.
AND WHEN YOU COMBINE THEM, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF MONEY LEFT.
I THOUGHT IF I WAS A COMMISSIONER, I WOULD NEGOTIATE, TRY TO NEGOTIATE BETWEEN MY PEERS HERE TO COME OUT WITH A DEAL THAT WE COULD ALL LIVE WITH.
AND I LIKE THE BOND ISSUE PART BECAUSE YOU GUYS GET TO VOTE ON IT.
YES OR NO, WE DON'T GET TO SAY IT, BUT THAT'S BE THE SOLUTION THAT I WOULD APPROACH FIRST.
THANK YOU. MS. MCMONAGLE SO THE SEAWALL HAS TO BE COMPLETED BECAUSE WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT ALL THE BEAUTIFUL LOCATIONS THAT WE NEED TO DO DOWNTOWN.
BUT YOU DON'T BEAUTIFY THE HOUSE UNTIL YOU'VE SECURED THE ROOF, SO TO SPEAK.
SO THE SEA WALL HAS TO BE COMPLETED.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT MR. SIMMONS ACTUALLY OWNS A PARCEL.
HOWEVER, I AM SURE THAT HE WOULD ALLOW US TO PUT THE SEA WALL ACROSS HIS PARCEL OF LAND.
WELL, WE COULD SPEAK TO HIM ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT I SEE BACK THERE SHAKING INSIDE.
SO ANYWAY, I ACTUALLY DID SPEAK TO HIM AND I THINK HE WOULD BE ALLOWED US BECAUSE HE DOES NOT WANT TO SEE HE LOVES FERNANDINA AS MUCH AS ANYBODY ELSE, AND HE DOES NOT WANT TO SEE FERNANDINA FLOOD.
AND HE UNDERSTANDS THAT THE SEA WALL GOING ACROSS HIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS IMPORTANT.
SO I'M GOING OUT ON A LIMB HERE.
BUT ANYWAY, THE SEAWALL HAS TO BE COMPLETED.
THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THIS THERE'S A TRIFOLD CORD HERE.
SO IF YOU LET ANY ONE OF THOSE THREE GO IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, YOU ARE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER DORA AND SHE'S GOING TO TAKE OFF ANOTHER STREET OUT THERE LIKE SHE DID AT THE NORTH END IN 1964.
AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS WE'VE GOT TO FINISH THE SEAWALL.
HOW WE DO THAT, IT MAY BE A BOND ISSUE OR WE MAY HAVE TO GET GRANTS SOMEHOW.
I HAVE HOPE THAT WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THIS SEAWALL REALLY QUICKLY.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYOR LEIBOVICH IS RIGHT.
AND ALL THREE OF THOSE HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH AT SOME POINT.
I THINK THE REASON THAT THE BOND ISSUE FAILED AND COULD NOT GET ENOUGH TRACTION AND CITY COMMISSION IS THAT AGAIN, IT GETS BACK TO ME TO THE ISSUE OF LONGER TERM PLANNING AND HAVING TOO MANY THINGS ON THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT AND NOT HAVING ENOUGH DETAIL ON EACH ONE OF THEM.
SO LET'S DO A $20 MILLION BOND.
SO I THINK IT GETS BACK TO LOOKING AT LONGER TERM PLANNING, GET VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THE COST ARE FOR THINGS AND HOW WE PUT TOGETHER PACKAGES OF INFORMATION THAT CAN BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT MAKES SENSE AND IS EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND IS ABLE TO BE COMPLETED IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.
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FINANCING IS A HUGE ISSUE BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THIS ON OUR OWN.AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF SEVERAL THINGS.
THE DUNES ARE AN ISSUE AS WELL AS THE TREE CANOPY, AND ALL OF THAT DOES WORK TOGETHER.
FOR OUR SECOND QUESTION, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH YOU, MR. LAGUNA BEACH.
WHAT STEPS, IF ANY, SHOULD THE CITY TAKE TO RECOUP FROM NON CITY RESIDENTS THE EXPENSES OF RECREATION, BEACH AND INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RAPID DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE IN CENTRAL AND WESTERN NASSAU COUNTY? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
SO THE LAST PART WAS HOW DID WE DO IT? FROM WHAT STEPS, IF ANY, SHOULD THE CITY TAKE TO RECOUP FROM NON CITY RESIDENTS THE EXPENSES OF RECREATION, BEACH AND INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RAPID DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE IN CENTRAL AND WESTERN NASSAU COUNTY? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT.
WELL, THE ECONOMIC MODEL OF THE CITY IS BROKEN.
WE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO HAVE THE BURDEN OF INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE BORNE BY THE TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY.
WE HAVE 600,000 DAYTRIPPERS A YEAR COMING OVER TO THE BRIDGE, WHO USE OUR FACILITIES, USE OUR SERVICES, PAY NOTHING. WE HAVE 600,000 OVERNIGHT VISITORS WHO DO THE SAME EXACT THING.
SO HOW DO YOU TAP HOW DO YOU TAP INTO THAT? AND THERE'S NOT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF OPTIONS.
ONE OPTION IS VISITOR PAID PARKING DOWNTOWN.
NOW, YOU MENTIONED PAID PARKING AND MY GOODNESS, PEOPLE JUST THROW A FIT.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY OR DON'T OWN PROPERTY IN THE CITY.
WE HAVE TO TAP INTO THAT REVENUE.
SO THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY.
HERE'S ANOTHER WAY. I JUST READ THE BED TAX LAW THIS AFTERNOON.
THIS IS HOW YOU SPEND YOUR AFTERNOONS WHEN YOU RUN FOR OFFICE.
AND UNDER THE UNDER THE UNDER THE STATE LEGISLATURE, UNDER THE BED TAX LAW, YOU CAN USE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT FUNDS FOR MAINTENANCE, FOR INFRASTRUCTURE TO BUILD NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. NICOLAU. SAME QUESTION.
WE ALL FEEL THE IMPACT, DON'T WE? THE GROCERY STORES ARE CROWDED WITH THE TRAFFIC ON THE ISLANDS GETTING CROWDED, ESPECIALLY IN SUMMERTIME.
1.6 MILLION PEOPLE COME OVER TO THE SHAY BRIDGE EVERY YEAR.
SO HOW DO WE TAP INTO THAT AND TAKE THAT BURDEN OFF THE LOCAL TAXPAYER? BECAUSE YOU AND I ARE ARE PAYING FOR ALL THE UPKEEP OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
MIKE SAID THAT PAID PARKING IN THE CITY IS IS AN IDEA THAT COULD BE EXPLORED.
BUT I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO RELATIONSHIPS.
THE TDC RIGHT NOW ONLY PAYS ONLY GIVES US 10% OF WHAT THEIR BUDGET IS.
THEIR BUDGET THIS YEAR IS $25 MILLION, 10 MILLION IN RESERVES, 15 MILLION OPERATING COSTS.
OF COURSE I WILL GIVE THEM CREDIT.
THEY UP THE BEACH OF THE AMOUNT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE TOWARDS THE BEACH TO $3 MILLION THIS YEAR.
YES. BUT WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY AND REBUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS AT.
WE NEED HELP AND WE NEED TO START REBUILDING RELATIONSHIPS.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT'S HOW WE SOLVE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS AND GET OUR REVENUE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MCMONAGLE.
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WELL, IT IS ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS.ACTUALLY, THE BED TAX WOULD BE.
WE NEED. WE NEED TO GET MORE MONEY FROM THE COUNTY BECAUSE THE CITY WE ALTHOUGH 18 MILLION ALMOST $18 MILLION FOR A FOR THE BUDGET THIS YEAR WAS HARD TO SWALLOW FOR MOST OF US.
WE STILL WE STILL NEED HELP FROM THE COUNTY.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE I SAID, WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP DOING THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
SO YOU NEED COUNTY MONEY, BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT YOU MIGHT YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY NEED TO LOOK AT.
AND NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR THIS.
AND I ABSOLUTELY WOULD NOT SAY THAT YOU WANT TO DO THIS FOR ANYBODY IN THE CITY.
BUT YOU ACTUALLY COULD CHARGE TO DRIVE ON THE BEACH OTHER LIKE TO PARK ON THE TO PARK AND THERE.
I'M NOT MAKING ANY SENSE RIGHT NOW.
IT REALLY DOES. IT'S ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.
THAT'S WHAT IT BASICALLY COMES DOWN TO.
YOU'VE GOT TO LET PEOPLE THAT CAN TALK TO ONE ANOTHER AND YOU'VE GOT TO ELECT PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO STOP DEFENDING THEIR POINT OF VIEW AND START LISTENING TO WHAT THE OTHER PERSON SAYS.
I'M ALREADY PAYING NOT ONLY CITY TAXES, BUT COUNTY TAXES.
THE CITY RECENTLY INCREASED RECREATION FEES.
RECREATION IS 17% OF OUR BUDGET.
AND WE'VE RE WE'VE INCREASED RECREATION FEES, PARTICULARLY FOR SOME COUNTY RESIDENTS, FAIR A FAIR AMOUNT THIS LAST YEAR. BUT IT'S REALLY JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET.
IT'S NOT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SO THEN THAT LEAVES THAT YOU GO BACK THEN TO COUNTY TAX DOLLARS AND TDC MONEY, AND THOSE ARE REALLY THE ONLY TWO OTHER BIG BUCKETS OF MONEY THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO US.
I THINK THAT'S MISSING WITH OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW AND WITH THE TDC.
IT DOES NOT DO US ANY GOOD TO MAKE UNTRUE OR INCORRECT STATEMENTS OR SHIP LETTERS OFF WITHOUT ANY CONVERSATION AHEAD OF TIME, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO DO.
AND THOSE THINGS NEED TO STOP.
WE NEED TO WORK ON IMPROVING THAT RELATIONSHIP AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVE WHERE OUR NEEDS ARE AND HOW THEY CAN BE MET THROUGH OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, THROUGH THE TDC AND POSSIBLY THROUGH THE COUNTY.
THERE ARE OTHER TAX OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US THAT ARE PUNITIVE AND NOBODY WANTS TO REALLY LOOK AT THEM AND PAY PARKING AS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE OUGHT TO ALSO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER.
I DO THINK THAT IS A WORTHY CAUSE TO PURSUE, IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT WE CAN ALWAYS BE STRENGTHENING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN NEGOTIATE WAYS TO INCREASE THE COUNTY CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY.
I DO BELIEVE THAT I'LL ALWAYS COME BACK TO PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IF WE CAN FIND WAYS THAT OTHER SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, SUCH AS MY COLLEAGUES, PLENTY OF THEM THAT I'VE SHARED THE POWER REFERRAL GROUP FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, WE WOULD HAVE SOME REALLY COOL OPPORTUNITIES COMING TOGETHER HERE.
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AND IN SAINT SIMONS ISLAND, WHEN IT WAS DONE SUCCESSFULLY, RAISED ABOUT $800,000, WHICH THEN BECAME A BUCKET OF MONEY THAT CITY VOTERS COULD DECIDE HOW THAT WAS GOING TO GET USED. THERE WAS CRITICISMS OF THIS PARTICULAR CASE WORKING HERE, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE IT HAPPENED DURING COVID AND THERE WAS CRITICISMS OF THE ONBOARDING PROCESS.THANK YOU. FOR OUR THIRD QUESTION, WE WILL STOP.
MR. NICHOLAS, YOU'RE ON THE HOT SEAT.
OKAY. CANDIDATES OFTEN TALK ABOUT BEING BUSINESS FRIENDLY AND REDUCING RESTRICTIONS AND REGULATIONS, WHILE THEY ALSO COMMIT TO PRESERVING THE HISTORY AND OLD FLORIDA CHARM OF FERNANDINA BEACH.
THESE CAN BE CONFLICTING GOALS.
WHICH SPECIFIC POLICIES OR REGULATIONS DO YOU FEEL SHOULD BE RELAXED AND WHICH SHOULD BE MORE STRINGENT? SO I'M TALKING TO PEOPLE.
I'VE BEEN WALKING THE STREETS FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
AND ONE OF THE COMMON THEMES WE HEAR IS COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND ABOUT THE PERMIT PROCESS AND ABOUT THE FEES AND ABOUT GETTING DINGED.
AND TO ME, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S MORE OF A CULTURAL THING THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO START THERE IF I HAD.
THE OPPORTUNITY IS TO SET THE SET TO SET AN EXAMPLE OF CUSTOMER SERVICE.
I THINK YOU CAN HAVE A BALANCE BETWEEN BUSINESS AND MAINTAINING THAT HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.
THAT'S WHAT THE THAT'S WHAT WE ALL THAT'S WHAT THE NATIVES LOVE.
THEY LOVE THE MAGIC OF THAT AND THE CHARM.
AND THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF THE NEW PEOPLE HAVE MOVED HERE FOR, TOO, BECAUSE THEY'RE ATTRACTED TO THAT.
SO HOW CAN WE MESH THOSE OR BLEND THOSE? AND I'VE BEEN TALKING TO SOME PEOPLE WITH SOME PRETTY GOOD IDEAS, AND ONE OF THEM IS TO MAYBE HAVE A SHRIMP BOAT, AN OLD RETIRED SHRIMP BOAT, FIX IT UP, MAKE IT SAFE, AND THEN OFFER TAGGING ALONG WITH THE MUSEUM AND MAKE AND MAKE THAT AS PART OF A TOUR, SO TO SPEAK, AND USE THAT AS A TOURIST ATTRACTION.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD DO.
MCMONAGLE SO I TOO HAVE BEEN OUT AND AND UNFORTUNATELY, EVERYBODY IS UPSET WITH HOW MUCH IT COSTS, LIKE OUT OF SUN FORGE TO ADD SOMETHING TO YOUR HOUSE.
I THINK HISTORY IS SO IMPORTANT HERE.
IT'S IT'S IT'S IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
HERE. YOU HAVE WE HAVE TO LOWER THE I THINK THE FEES NEED TO BE LOWERED PERSONALLY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER THEIR HOMES AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN THEIR HOMES. BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU LIVE IN A SMALL COMMUNITY AND THE AND THE DESIGN OF YOUR HOME NEEDS TO, LIKE, BLEND IN TO WHAT HERE IS IN FERNANDINA, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE IN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT, I THINK YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO LIKE HAVE A HOUSE THAT THAT STICKS WITH THE COMMUNITY'S IDEA OF OUR VICTORIAN.
SMALL TOWN. SO ANYWAY, HE HAD THE GENTLEMAN THAT HE SPOKE TO IS THE SAME ONE.
BUT WE NEED SHRIMP BOATS DOWN HERE, PEOPLE.
WE NEED TO BRING OUR SHRIMP BOAT INDUSTRY BACK.
WE NEED A PACKING PLANT DOWN HERE CLOSER TO THE TO THE PORT.
WE ACTUALLY NEED TO BRING SOME OF WHAT FERNANDINA WAS ABOUT BACK TO FERNANDINA.
AND AS FAR AS THE FEES GO, THEY NEED TO GET LOWERED.
IT'S WRONG AND IT NEEDS TO BE HANDLED NOW.
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SO NOT SURE I REALLY UNDERSTAND BUSINESS FRIENDLY AND OLD FLORIDA CHARM AND HOW THEY REALLY EITHER WORK TOGETHER OR DIVERGE. THERE ARE ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE PROCESSES IN TERMS OF HOW CITIZENS INTERACT WITH WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY.I AM A FIRM BELIEVER THAT ORGANIZATIONS TAKE ON THE PERSONALITY OF THEIR LEADERSHIP, AND IF THE LEADERSHIP DOES NOT WANT TO BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY OR PROVIDE A GOOD CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, OR I THINK CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE IS IMPORTANT, THEN IT TRICKLES DOWN THROUGH THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION.
AND THAT IS CLEARLY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT ALONG WITH EVER WATCHING OUT FOR THE FEES THAT WE'RE CHARGING AND THE PROCESSES THAT ARE BEING USED IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
IN TERMS OF OLD FLORIDA CHARM, YES, WE ARE SWIMMING IN SHRIMPING INDUSTRY AND WE'RE ABOUT TO LOSE THE TRINGALE HOUSE, WHICH IS THE LAST COMPONENT OF THE SHRIMPING INDUSTRY IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GET DEMOLISHED IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
THERE ARE COMPONENTS IN THE COMP PLAN THAT TALK ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE UNREGISTERED BUILDINGS, AND THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST NOT BEING FOLLOWED AND WATCHED.
AND IT INCLUDES NOT JUST LOOKING AT SHRIMP BOATS BUT ALSO LOOKING AT HISTORIC PROPERTIES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE DESIGNATED AND HOW YOU WANT TO PRESERVE THEM. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. MR. RENTON, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REPEAT THE QUESTION OR THESE CANDIDATES OFTEN TALK ABOUT BEING BUSINESS FRIENDLY AND REDUCING RESTRICTIONS AND REGULATIONS WHILE THEY ALSO COMMIT TO PRESERVING THE HISTORY AND OLD FLORIDA CHARM OF FERNANDINA BEACH? THESE CAN BE CONFLICTING GOALS.
WHICH SPECIFIC POLICIES OR REGULATIONS DO YOU FEEL SHOULD BE RELAXED AND WHICH SHOULD BE MORE STRINGENT? WELL, I THINK AS MANY OF OUR OTHER FELLOW CANDIDATES HAVE MENTIONED, THE FEES DEFINITELY CAN BE PUT UNDER CONTROL.
THERE'S NO REASON ONCE A PERMIT IS DUE TO BE APPROVED, IF ALL OTHER DUCKS ARE IN A ROW, SO TO SPEAK, THAT A CLIENT SHOULD BE PAYING AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO JUSTIFY BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE BACK PORCH OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.
THAT BEING SAID, THERE NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST THE BARE MINIMUM COST TO OFFSET THE OVERHEAD THAT THE CITY IS INCURRING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PERMIT DOES GET PUSHED THROUGH WITH STAFFING OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.
SO I REALLY THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT CONSISTENCY.
THERE'S ALWAYS A WAY TO IMPROVE POLICIES, BUT CONSISTENTLY ENFORCING THE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE AND IN PARTICULAR IN THE PLANNING AND PERMITTING DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE COUNTLESS STORIES OF WHERE PLANS AND PERMITS THAT COULD HAVE GONE THROUGH IN A MATTER OF WEEKS TOOK SIX MONTHS OR IN MY PERSONAL CASE, NEARLY A YEAR.
I SIMPLY THINK THAT THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE AND WE SHOULD POSSIBLY CONSIDER RUNNING AN AUDIT OF HOWEVER MANY CASES HAVE RUN FAR BEYOND THE ACCEPTABLE LENGTH OF WHAT SHOULD BE, WHERE A PROJECT GET PUSHED THROUGH.
THANK YOU, MR. LEIBOVICH. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, BY THE WAY.
SO WE HAVE A VERY COMPLICATED CITY.
WE HAVE A CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
THAT'S A LOT OF HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH.
THE CONSTRUCTION CODE IS ABOUT THAT THICK.
SO YOUR FATE LIES IN THE HANDS OF THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WHO IS GOING TO INTERPRET THIS BOOK.
AND IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS, WHAT THIS BOILS DOWN TO IS CUSTOMER SERVICE.
HOW WELL DO WE DELIVER OUR SERVICES TO THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY? AND THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE EVER GOING TO KNOW ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE IS TO SURVEY YOUR CUSTOMERS.
HOW WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE? GOOD, BAD, INDIFFERENT? HOW CAN WE IMPROVE YOUR EXPERIENCE? MS.. MINSHEW MENTIONED PROCESS.
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THAT'S HOW YOU IMPROVE YOUR PROCESSES.SO THIS IS A CULTURAL PROBLEM.
WE DID NOT BUDGET ANYTHING FOR TRAINING.
WE HAD OUR FOLKS DURING THE BUILDING CRISIS TRAINED.
SO WE NEED TO IMPROVE CUSTOMER SERVICE, SURVEY, MAKE SURE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, IMPROVE SURVEY, AND PROVE IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS.
NEXT QUESTION AND WE'LL SKIP OVER MR. ASKEW SPOT.
MS. MCMONAGLE QUESTION NUMBER FOUR IS YOURS.
WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON REQUESTS FOR INCREASED DENSITY? NO, IT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT PEOPLE ARE MOST UPSET WITH IS THE AMOUNT OF BUILDING AND DEVELOPING THAT'S GOING ON INSIDE THE CITY.
IT'S A ONE THING THEY TALK ABOUT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, AND THEY'RE RESENTFUL AND THEY'RE RESENTFUL BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY CHANGING THEIR LIVES RIGHT BEFORE THEIR VERY EYES. THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC.
THEY SPEND LONGER TIME AT THE GROCERY STORE.
THEIR LIVES ARE CHANGING BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY, BECAUSE WE'RE ALLOWING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE.
THIS IS FUNDING IS NOT A VERY SMALL, SMALL TOWN.
IT'S QUITE SMALL RIGHT HERE INSIDE OF FERNANDINA.
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MANY MORE LOTS TO BE FILLED, PROBABLY LIKE MAYBE FIVE OR 600 AT THE VERY MOST.
THE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT YOU TO TAKE THAT AND THEN TAKE TAKE IT AND PUT LIKE THREE OR FOUR HOUSES OR THREE OR FOUR LITTLE HOMES ON IT. THEY'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LIKE, JUST COULD WE SLOW IT DOWN? THE SERIOUS THING ABOUT THIS IS WHEN I KNOCK ON DOORS, YOU WONDER THE NUMBER ONE PEOPLE WEREN'T NUMBER ONE WORD.
PEOPLE USED TO BE MORATORIUM ON BUILDING.
THEY'RE LIKE, CAN WE PUT A MORATORIUM ON BUILDING? CAN WE STOP IT? SERIOUSLY, CAN SOMEBODY JUST STAND UP AND SAY NO UNTIL WE CAN GET OUR ACT TOGETHER AND GET THE LAND USE PLAN AND THE AND THE OTHER PLAN LIKE MIRRORING ONE ANOTHER? SO WE ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THEY MAY NOT BE SAYING IT TO EVERYBODY.
THAT'S BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING TO ME.
SO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THIS.
THIS IS THIS IS BAD AND IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT.
THEY'RE THE REASON THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE RUNNING.
THANK YOU. MISS MINSHEW, YOUR ANSWER TO THAT.
SO I SIT ON THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T INCREASED ANY DENSITY IN A LONG TIME OR CHANGED ANY ZONING.
THE COUNTY HAS A LOT OF PROPERTY HERE ON THE ISLAND.
WE DO GET ANNEXATION REQUESTS COMING IN FOR PEOPLE WANTING TO GET ON CITY SEWER AND WATER.
AND SO SOME OF THOSE ANNEXATION REQUEST HAVE ASKED FOR MULTI USE AS OPPOSED TO COMMERCIAL.
WE'VE BEEN DENYING THOSE THERE ARE LOTS OF RESTRAINTS AND REQUIREMENTS ABOUT HOW YOU CAN HOW MUCH OF A HOUSE AND HOW BIG OF A HOUSE YOU CAN PUT ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THEM.
BUT THOSE ARE HISTORICALLY PLATTED AND I SEE LITTLE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THOSE WE HAVE NOT.
I KNOW WE ON THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD HAVE NO PLANS TO LOOK AT INCREASING DENSITY.
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MAKING ON THOSE.MR. ANTIN. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REPEAT THE QUESTION? YES, PLEASE. DEVELOPMENT PLANS CONTINUE TO COME TO THE CITY REQUESTING HIGHER DENSITY THAN WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY ALLOWS.
WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON REQUESTS FOR INCREASED DENSITY? SO MY KNEE JERK REACTION, ESPECIALLY AS A PERSON WHO'S BOUGHT A HOUSE ON THIS ISLAND AND NOW CONTINUES TO SEE THAT AS WE ALL KNOW, THIS PLACE IS GETTING A LITTLE MORE CROWDED WOULD BE A NO. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'VE BEEN THE POINT WAS MADE TO ME AT A PREVIOUS FORUM THAT THERE ARE EXAMPLES AND I'M NOT THE BUILDER TO KNOW THAT EXAMPLE. IT WOULD SEE AS IT COMES ACROSS MY DESK OF THINGS THAT COULD BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITY THAN SIMPLE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE MORE ECONOMICALLY EFFICIENT FOR THE COMMUNITY FROM A UTILITY STANDPOINT AND FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT.
SO IF THOSE DO IN FACT EXIST, MY ANSWER IS NOT A HARD NO, BUT IT NEEDS TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK.
WE DO NEED TO BE VERY JUDICIOUS ABOUT.
THAT BEING SAID, I DO KNOW THERE'S ONLY SO MANY LOTS LEFT ON THIS ISLAND AND I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF SEEING SOMETHING THAT CURRENTLY IS COMMERCIAL, POTENTIALLY BEING A BIG WAREHOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY BEEN A FEW HOMES THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL OR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT IS MUCH MORE TASTEFUL TO THE FLAVOR OF THIS ISLAND. THANK YOU, MR. LEIBOVICH. I'M REALLY TRYING TO NOT GET EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS, BUT WE ARE FOLKS.
AND IN MY OPENING REMARKS, I TOLD YOU THAT I OPPOSED EVERY REZONING FOR RESIDENTIAL USE THAT CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION IN MY FOUR YEARS HERE.
IF THOSE HAD GONE FORWARD, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 500 APPROXIMATELY NEW HOMES THAT WOULD EXIST NOW.
THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND PROPOSED 44 UNITS INSTEAD OF 1744.
HE CAME BACK WITH A NEW PROPOSAL OF 28.
WELL, ANOTHER COMMISSIONER AND I VOTED AGAINST IT AND WE LOST 3 TO 2.
THAT'S HOW CLOSE YOU ARE TO HAVING A PRO DEVELOPMENT CITY COMMISSION.
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION.
I'VE WON 3 TO 2 VOTES AND I'VE LOST 3 TO 2 VOTES.
YOU'RE GOING TO ELECT A SWING VOTE.
SO BE VERY CAREFUL OF WHERE THE CANDIDATES STAND ON THIS ISSUE.
FOR FOUR YEARS, I HAVE OPPOSED DENSITY.
IF ELECTED, THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, I WILL STAND FIRM AND SAY, NO, NO, NO.
WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON REQUESTS FOR INCREASED DENSITY? THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION BECAUSE LIKE GINNY SAYS, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANY REQUESTS COME THROUGH THAT WORD OR THAT THEY'VE APPROVED THAT WOULD INCREASE THE DENSITY OF ANY PROPERTY THAT I KNOW OF.
THE PERCEPTION MAY BE THERE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT TOWNHOMES ON A PROPERTY OR MAYBE TWO ONE FAMILIES RESIDED, BUT THE DENSITY AND THE LDL-C AND THE ZONING ALLOWS FOR THAT.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WANT US TO GO AGAINST THE PLANNING AND THE ZONING CODES.
THAT'S JUST GONE WITH WHAT THE CODE SAY AND WHAT OUR CODE SAY.
NOW, IF IF IT'S A PROBLEM, IF YOU WANT TO NOT BE PRO DEVELOPMENT OR YOU SEE IT AS A PROBLEM, WHY NOT CHANGE THE LDL-C? WHY NOT RECONFIGURE IT TO TAKE TO IMPROVE THOSE DENSITIES? YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TALKING TO PEOPLE IS LIKE JANICE MENTIONED THE TERMINOLOGY PROPERTY.
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I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.JANICE SUGGESTED THAT THEY WANT TO PUT THOSE TOWNHOMES IN THERE WHERE THERE ONE FAMILY.
IF THERE WAS LIKE TEN ONE FAMILIES IN THERE OR FIVE, I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE PALATABLE TO TO THE TO THE PEOPLE CAN HAVE TEN MORE SECONDS OR SOMETHING BECAUSE I.
OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH KELLY.
THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED MU TWO AND ARE TWO.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOES ALLOW FOR TOWNHOMES.
BUT ONE THING WE CAN DO IF WE WANT TO DO IT, IS TO TAKE THE THE REQUIREMENT FOR TOWNHOMES OUT.
AND REALLY QUICK, BEFORE WE MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT QUESTION, IF YOU ARE AN AUDIENCE MEMBER AND YOU HAVE A QUESTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ASK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE COME AND COLLECT THE COX.
MINSHEW WITH THE OPENING OF ALACHUA STREET.
A CURRENTLY, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FUTURE PROJECTS IN THE CRA DO NOT REQUIRE ONSITE PARKING, YET WE KNOW THAT DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT IS COMING.
SOME RESIDENTS SAY PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS ALREADY SCARCE.
WHAT ARE YOUR SOLUTIONS FOR DOWNTOWN PARKING? SO THE NO PARKING REQUIREMENT IS ACTUALLY IN THE ENTIRE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, NOT JUST THE CRA.
FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE NEED TO START ENFORCING OUR PARKING REGULATIONS.
YOU CAN PARK FOR 3 HOURS DOWNTOWN.
SO THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO, I THINK, IS TO ACTIVELY ENFORCE PARKING DOWNTOWN.
AND WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH MAIN STREET, I THINK, WITH THE LOCAL DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HOW WE CAN HELP THEM WITH THEIR EMPLOYEE PARKING SO THAT WE CAN FIND PLACES A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY, MAYBE PARKING LOT UP ON BROOME STREET OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING WITH, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, TAGS OR SOMETHING.
SO THAT WOULD THAT WOULD, I THINK IMMEDIATELY BE A BIG HELP TO DOWNTOWN.
YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY THINK PAID PARKING IS THE THIRD RAIL OF FERNANDINA BEACH POLITICS.
BUT I THINK IT IS INEVITABLE AT SOME POINT THAT THERE WILL BE PAID PARKING OR SOME KIND OF PAID PARKING DOWNTOWN. IT'S A WAY TO MANAGE PARKING AND TO MANAGE THE FLOW OF PARKING.
I DON'T OFTEN FIND A PROBLEM PARKING.
BECAUSE I'M WILLING TO PARK A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY FROM WHERE I WANT TO GO.
AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM.
MR. RAMPTON, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REPEAT IT? YES, PLEASE. WITH THE OPENING OF ALACHUA STREET, MOST OF THE PARKING ALONG FRONT STREET WILL BE LOST AND AS WELL AS SOME PART SOME SPACES IN PARKING LOT.
SOME RESIDENTS SAY PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS ALREADY SCARCE.
WHAT ARE YOUR SOLUTIONS FOR DOWNTOWN PARKING? WELL, I ACTUALLY HAD COFFEE WITH CITY MANAGER DALE MARTIN ON THURSDAY MORNING AND HE MADE THE POINT TO ME THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS HAD THE SPOTS COUNTED.
AND WE HAVE SOME 1300 SPOTS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
SO FOR OUR SMALL LITTLE DOWNTOWN, THAT'S THAT'S A REASONABLE NUMBER OF SPOTS.
WHERE HOW MUCH MORE SPACE CAN YOU REALLY GET? RIGHT. I THINK A LOT OF US HAVE EXPERIENCED MANY DAYS OF THE WEEK THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A CHALLENGE PARKING DOWNTOWN.
NOW WE'VE DILUTED SOME OF THOSE AVAILABLE SPACES.
SO THE PAID PARKING ISSUE HAS BEEN A VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
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OBVIOUSLY, IF WE LIVE IN THE CITY, NOT ONE PERSON I'VE TALKED TO WOULD BE OPEN TO CITY RESIDENTS INCURRING AN ADDITIONAL FEE.SO I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO DISCUSSING IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY RESIDENT PASS FOR SOME OF THOSE OR HAVING CERTAIN PAID LOTS PROVIDING EVEN MAYBE A WHAT'S THE BEST WORD I'M LOOKING FOR A MAP OF OF WHERE THOSE LOTS ARE FREE TO CITY RESIDENTS SO THAT THERE'S KIND OF THE SECRET SPOTS THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE KNOW.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, THERE JUST ISN'T SPACE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO GO IN.
SO I THINK IT'S MULTIFACTORIAL.
THANK YOU. IS THE LINEAGE GOING TO LAST IS SUCH A DISADVANTAGE? YOU'RE NOT LIKE HE'S STILL HE'S STILL NOT LIKE, OH, OKAY, YEAH, I LOST IT.
JUST ADMIT IT IS A DISADVANTAGE.
ANTHONY SAID, THERE ARE 1200 PARKING PLACES DOWNTOWN.
MR. ROSS DID THE SURVEY AND THERE'S A CHART AND YOU CAN LOOK AT IT.
AND MS.. MINSHEW IS EXACTLY CORRECT.
WE DON'T ENFORCE THE PARKING ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE.
I SEE PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKED OUT THERE ALL DAY LONG AND QUITE FRANKLY, 3 HOURS.
THAT'S THE MOST GENEROUS PARKING POLICY THAT I'VE RUN ACROSS TO IN A IN A RESORT DOWNTOWN AREA.
SO A START ENFORCING THE TIME LIMIT.
THERE IS NO MORE LAND FOR PARKING.
SOONER OR LATER, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
WE CAN'T CREATE ANY MORE PARKING SPACES.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO WALK.
SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS START SOME SHUTTLE SERVICES.
AND I'M TALKING THE RESORT GOLF CARTS ON BIG EVENTS LIKE SHRIMP FEST SOUNDS ON CENTER WHERE YOU SHUTTLE PEOPLE WHO ARE FIVE, SIX BLOCKS AWAY, YOU SHUTTLE THEM BACK DOWNTOWN.
AND I TAKE ISSUE THAT WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF PARKING PLACES ON FRONT STREET.
ALL OF THE PLANS SAY WE'RE LOSING 15, 15 SPOTS.
THAT'S IT. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE BEING WIPED OUT.
SO ENFORCE WHAT WE HAVE STARTED A SHUTTLE SERVICE.
WE'VE GOT 1200 PARKING SPACES IN THE CITY.
YOU CAN REASONABLY PARK SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY UNLESS THERE'S AND WALK SOMEWHERE.
THERE'S A BIG EVENT. THEN YOU'RE THEN YOU'RE WALKING ALONG YOUR WAY.
AS FAR AS THE PARKING STRUCTURE GOES, JAMES IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
THERE'S NO APPETITE IN THIS TOWN TO PUT A PARKING STRUCTURE.
WE DON'T NEED THAT. BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE WITH THE LOSS OF THE PARKING SPACES IN FRONT STREET, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF IT COULD BE RECONFIGURED SO THAT WE COULD SOMEHOW ADD THOSE SPOTS BACK INTO THE PLAN, SQUEEZE THEM IN SOMEHOW.
I KNOW WE'RE RESTRICTED BY THE BY THE CURVING ALONG THE RAILWAY, BUT IF WE CAN IF WE CAN PUSH IT SOMEHOW INTO SOME OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY, COME TO AN AGREEMENT SOMEWHERE THERE 50 SPACES IS A LOT LIKE.
I MEAN, I JUST TALKED TO SOMEBODY WHO GOT A TICKET THE OTHER NIGHT BECAUSE THEY PARKED THERE AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE SIGNAGE HAD JUST GONE UP AND THEY'RE THEY'RE NATIVE.
SO THAT AND THEN, LIKE JANET SAID, WE NEED TO ENFORCE THREE HOUR PARKING RULE.
THAT'S ABOUT ALL. I DON'T THINK SHUTTLES WILL WORK TOO WELL.
I MEAN, WE CAN TRY IT, BUT PEOPLE LIKE TO WALK.
THEY JUST WALK IF IT TAKES TIME TO GET OUT OF SHUTTLE.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT I DO THAT I THINK ARE APPROPRIATE.
THAT'S OKAY. MR. MCMONAGLE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT, JUST GO HANG ON ME THE QUESTION ONE MORE TIME.
WITH THE OPENING OF ALACHUA STREET.
MOST OF THE PARKING ALONGSIDE FRONT STREET WILL BE LOST AND ALSO SOME PARKING SPACES IN PARKING LOT.
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IS COMING. SOME RESIDENTS SAY PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS ALREADY SCARCE.WHAT ARE YOUR SOLUTIONS FOR DOWNTOWN PARKING? ALL RIGHT. WELL, FIRST OFF, I WORKED A LOT OF HOTELS AND WE HAD OFF SITE PARKING LIKE THE RITZ.
SO OFF SITE PARKING FOR DOWNTOWN TO HAVE A PARKING LOT WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WORK DOWNTOWN THEN PARK AND IT'S STRICTLY FOR THEM IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE YOUR BEST IDEA TO GET A LOT OF THE CARS THAT ARE ON CENTER STREET OFF.
SO YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ENFORCE THE PARKING LAWS.
AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON THEY DON'T GO DOWNTOWN IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO PARKING.
WE HAVE A LOT OF SENIORS ON THE ISLAND OF WHICH I AM NOW GOING TO BE ONE THING.
BUT ANYWAY, THEY WOULD LOVE TO GO DOWNTOWN, BUT THEY WANT THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO WALK THAT FAR.
AND IT MAY BEACH AND I KNOW BAIM BEACH IS ALWAYS BUSY, BUT NONETHELESS, YOU COULD HAVE A SHUTTLE THAT RUNS FROM FROM CENTER STREET ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MAIN BEACH AND THEN BACK UP AGAIN. AND IF IT RAN EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY, PEOPLE WOULD GET PEOPLE WANT TO GET OUT AND THEY WANT TO ENJOY THE THE CLIMATE HERE ON THIS ISLAND AND THEY ENJOY WALKING AROUND AND SEEING PEOPLE THAT THEY KNOW.
THEY JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE.
IF YOU COULD JUST PUT A BARCODE UP THERE AND THEY CAN SNAP THEIR PHONE ON IT AND IT SAYS, HEY, THE SHUTTLE WILL BE HERE IN 5 MINUTES, THERE'S REALLY SOPHISTICATED WAYS TO GET THIS DONE. SO IT'S NOT ARCHAIC.
BUT EVERYBODY I'VE TALKED TO REALLY LIKES THE IDEA.
I HAVE A CHOICE OF GOING WITH MORE OF OUR QUESTIONS OR A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE.
SO I WILL ASK YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO WITH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE? SURE. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
OKAY. AND AGAIN, WE'RE BACK TO YOU.
WHAT CAN BE DONE TO STOP ENCROACHMENT ON DUNES BEFORE CONSTRUCTION? CAN THE CITY NOT HAVE A HOTLINE TO HELP ENFORCE CODE VIOLATIONS IN A TIMELY MATTER? WELL, I KNOW THIS IS A HOT ITEM BECAUSE OF THE MOST RECENT CITY COMMISSION MEETING WHERE WE HAD A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT SEEMS TO BE DOING JUST THIS.
AND WE'RE HEARING BOTH SIDES FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THE DUNES BE ENCROACHED UPON THAT THERE'S CONCERN THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, THAT'S NEVER GOING TO BE REBUILT TO THE QUALITY AND STANDARD TO BE WHETHER WITHHOLDING THAT IT WAS BEFORE.
AND ON THE CONTRACTOR SIDE, THEY'RE REASSURING.
WE ACTUALLY INSIST THAT, HOWEVER, IS ASKED UPON AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THAT LOT.
THERE IS VERY LITTLE TO NO DEVIATION FROM HOW THAT'S PROMISED.
SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO BETTER WITH WHAT WE HAVE ON PAPER ALREADY.
WHICH I HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS AT 1509 FLETCHER AND 1330 FLETCHER.
TWO HOME SITES THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY CUT INTO THE DUNES.
AND ON 1509, WHICH IS RIGHT OFF FOR STAFF.
WE NEED TO ENFORCE THE ORDINANCES, THE ORDER, THE BILL.
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HE'S NOT LOOKING AT THE DUNE.WHAT'S ON THE BOOKS? NUMBER TWO, I'VE ALREADY INSTRUCTED AT THE LAST MEETING THE CITY ATTORNEY, THIS IS ACTUALLY TWO MEETINGS AGO TO WRITE A DUNE PROTECTION ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO WE DO SOMETHING TO PROTECT THESE DUNES.
BECAUSE IF FORT MYERS HAD SOME DUNES, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DAMAGED AS AS MUCH AS IT HAS IT WAS.
BUT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE YOU ALSO FLORIDA HAS THE BURT HARRIS ACT, SO YOU CAN PROTECT DUNES, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
SO YOU'RE WALKING A TIGHTROPE.
BUT WE'VE GOT TO AMEND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. NICHOLSON. THANK YOU.
LET'S DO THAT. LET'S HAVE A HOTLINE.
BUT LIKE MIKE SAID, THE INSPECTOR ONLY CHECKED CERTAIN THINGS.
MAYBE WE HAD THAT AS CHECKING THE DUNES AND WHETHER IT'S DONE.
BUT MIKE TALKS ABOUT ENFORCING THE CODE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ENFORCING THE ORDINANCE.
WELL, I THINK THERE WERE NO RULES BROKEN.
IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T LOOK NICE.
IT DOESN'T IT MAY NOT LOOK NICE.
IT MAY NOT BE ENVIRONMENTALLY PLEASING, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THEY BROKE ANY LAWS.
AND IF THEY WERE, THEN WHY WEREN'T WEREN'T THEY FIND.
I MEAN, LIKE YOU'RE THE MAYOR.
IS THIS GOING TO TURN INTO PERSONAL? NO, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO.
AND THAT'S THIS IS THE SECOND TIME.
YEAH. AND THEY ACTUALLY DID VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE.
THE ORDINANCE THE BUILDING CODE SAYS YOU MUST BUILD A WALL.
AND I'VE TOLD THE CITY MANAGER FIVE TIMES, INCLUDING THIS MORNING.
MR. NICOLAU, DO YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF SECONDS TO CONTINUE? SURE. SO, YEAH, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED.
MIKE'S RIGHT. IT'S A TIGHTROPE OF BALANCING BETWEEN THE PROPERTY RIGHTS BURT HARRIS ACT AND THE DEVELOPER AND AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS FROM THAT DUNE ENCROACHMENT.
MCMONAGLE SO YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DO NEED TO ENFORCE THE CODES.
HOWEVER, IF YOU'VE GOT A BUILDER OUT THERE THAT JUST BLATANTLY DECIDES AFTER HOUSE AFTER HOUSE THAT HE'S JUST NOT GOING TO ABIDE BY BY THE CODES, MAYBE YOU JUST NEED TO TELL THAT DEVELOPER HE DOESN'T GET TO WORK HERE ANYMORE.
HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT IDEA? I'M FULL OF THEM. SO ANYWAY, JUST IT COMES DOWN TO RESPECT.
EITHER HE RESPECTS THE THE COMMUNITY THAT HE'S ACTUALLY BUILDING IN OR HE DOESN'T.
AND IF HE DOESN'T, THEN I DON'T THINK HE GETS TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD HERE.
I MEAN, HE WANTS TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND AND HONOR AND UPHOLD OUR CODES OR HE HE DOESN'T.
WHOEVER THIS IS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS.
BUT ANYWAY, THE OTHER PROBLEM YOU HAVE IS ACTUALLY EDUCATION.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED TO THIS ISLAND.
AND WE'RE NOT TEACHING IT IN FLORIDA SCHOOLS ANYMORE.
I CAN TELL YOU, I GREW UP HERE IN FLORIDA AND IN FOURTH GRADE, THE TWO THINGS THAT WE HAD THAT WERE ADDED TO MY CLASS IN FOURTH GRADE WAS FLORIDA HISTORY AND FOR SCIENCE.
SO WE ACTUALLY LEARNED ABOUT THE DUNES AND THE CANOPIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND YOU LEARNED WHY. FLOR YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY OF FLORIDA, IT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
I STILL DON'T LEAVE THE WATER RUNNING WHEN I BRUSH MY TEETH.
OKAY. THANK YOU, MRS. FLOWERS. ALL RIGHT.
BUT YOU GOT TO GET OUT THERE AND YOU'VE GOT TO START EDUCATING PEOPLE.
AND PRIMARILY THE YOUTH IS WHO NEEDS TO BE EDUCATED BECAUSE IF THEY CAN CATCH ON TO THE FACT THAT THEY TOLD ME AT FOUR YEARS OLD, I'VE GOT TO WEAR MY SEAT BELT, THEY ALSO WILL KNOW THAT THE DUNES AND THE CANOPY AND THE WETLANDS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
SO I THINK THERE IS A BIG DISCONNECT WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF DOING THE KIND OF PROTECTION AND REVIEWS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
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YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE SAME ISSUE WITH THE TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE.HE STILL DOES NOT HAVE A TREE PROTECTION UP.
HE PUTS ALL OF HIS STUFF OUT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
YOU CAN HARDLY GET OUT BILL MOUNTAIN TO SEE IF YOU'VE GOT ONGOING TRAFFIC.
THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR IS JUST IGNORING THE CITY.
SO WE HAVE, I THINK, SOME ISSUES WITH WHAT A STOP WORK ORDER REALLY MEANS, HOW YOU DO DUNES PROTECTION, HOW YOU DO TREE PROTECTION ON PROPERTIES.
IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH MANAGEMENT AND PRIORITIZATION AND FOCUS ON RESPONSIBILITY AND IT'S NOT BEING DONE PROPERLY AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
AND IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IN THE CITY, AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE LACK OF FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
I'M GOING TO COMBINE TWO QUESTIONS INTO ONE BECAUSE THEY KIND OF OVERLAP EACH OTHER.
AND THIS WILL BE OUR LAST QUESTION.
AND WE START, MR. LUDOVIC, WITH YOU.
IN OUR RAPIDLY GROWING AREA, WHAT WILL YOU DO DIFFERENTLY TO PRESERVE OUR NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES? AND HOW WILL YOU FIGHT AGAINST? A LOSS OF LOCAL CONTROL OF GROWTH.
SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT LOSS OF LOCAL CONTROL OF GROWTH MEANS BECAUSE WE DO CONTROL OUR GROWTH. AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE DENSITY QUESTION.
WE CONTROL HOW MUCH DENSITY THAT WE WILL ALLOW ON THE ON THE ISLAND, AND THAT'S THROUGH ZONING.
THERE ARE ABOUT 1000 PARCELS LEFT IN THE CITY THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED.
AS I SAID, I WILL CONTINUALLY FIGHT REZONING, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT IS THE DEVELOPER STRATEGY.
SECOND STRATEGY, I MENTIONED EARLIER THE COUNTY PARCELS COMING INTO THE CITY, THEY'RE PLATTED WITH SEPTIC AND THEN THE DEVELOPER SAYS, WELL, I'M GOING TO ADD MORE UNITS.
NO, WE GET TO SAY HOW MANY UNITS CAN GO ON THAT PROPERTY SO WE CONTROL OUR DESTINY.
IT'S HAVING CITY COMMISSIONERS SITTING UP HERE WHO, LIKE I HAVE DONE FOR FOUR YEARS, SAYING, NO, NO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
THANK YOU, MR. NICHOLAS. IN OUR RAPIDLY GROWING AREA, WHAT WILL YOU DO DIFFERENTLY TO PRESERVE OUR NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES? AND HOW WOULD YOU FIGHT AGAINST LOSS OF LOCAL CONTROL OF GROWTH? SO LIKE I SAID, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY LOSS OF OUR LOCAL CONTROL GROWTH.
I THINK WE HAVE WE CAN CHOOSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO AS FAR AS THE LDC GOES, AS FAR AS OUR PLANNING GOES, AS FAR AS OUR ZONING GOES, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD GRASP ON THAT.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING PLANNING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THEY DO A REALLY FINE JOB OF DOING THAT.
AND SO WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO BALANCE WHAT WE DO WITHOUT STEPPING OVER THAT THE BOUNDARY OF THE BIRD HARRIS ACT AND DOING SOMETHING THAT WOULD LEAVE US OPEN FOR LITIGATION AND A FIGHT FROM THE STATE OR FROM A DEVELOPER.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE DO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD BALANCE OF OUR ZONING AND OUR DENSITY REQUIREMENTS.
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I WOULD OPPOSE ANY INCREASE OF DENSITY REQUIREMENTS, LIKE IN THE LAST QUESTION, IT WAS PROPOSED.AND MIKE'S RIGHT TOO IS THAT THE COUNTY YOU HAVE A DEVELOPER AND A COUNTY COMES IN, THEY GET PERMITTED THROUGH THE COUNTY AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN BOOM, THEY WANT TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY.
THAT'S FINE. WE WANT THEM TO BECAUSE IT GETS THEM OFF SEPTIC AND WE GET THEY GET ON CITY WATER, BUT WE NEED TO RESTRICT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND AT WHAT DENSITY AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONTROL.
THAT'S HOW WE DO IT. THANK YOU.
I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH ADDRESS ALL OF THIS BEFORE.
SO, YES, WE'VE GOT TO CONTROL THE DENSITY, WHICH MEANS YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE PEOPLE HERE ON THE CITY, COUNT ON THE CITY COMMISSION THAT ARE GOING TO SAY NO WHEN THEY NEED TO SAY NO AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SWAY FROM THAT.
YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY.
YOU'VE GOT TO VOTE FOR THE PERSON YOU KNOW IS GOING TO STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE.
IF YOU DON'T WANT MORE DENSITY, THEN YOU GOT TO VOTE THAT PERSON IN, DECIDE WHO THAT IS AND VOTE.
BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS, IS A LOT OF TREES COME DOWN IN THE MIDDLE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
A LOT OF STUFF ON THIS ISLAND HAPPENS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND YOU WAKE UP AND IT'S GONE.
OC LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT I MEAN, YEARS AND YEARS AGO GILDA HAD THE OLD KEYSTONE HOTEL OUT THERE AND EVERYBODY WAS THERE ONE DAY AND THEN THEY WOKE UP THE NEXT MORNING AND IT HAD BEEN DEMOLISHED AND PEOPLE WERE SERIOUSLY UPSET.
WELL, THE SAME THING'S GOING ON HERE.
SO YOU NEED A 24 HOUR HOTLINE AND YOU NEED TO REALLY GET TOUGH ON YOUR ON YOUR.
ORDINANCES IN YOUR RESTRICTIONS AS TO WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO WHEN IT COMES? WHEN IT COMES TO THE DUNES AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE WETLANDS AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE TREES.
SO YOU GOT TO TIGHTEN THAT UP.
YOU'VE GOT TO CHARGE MORE MONEY.
IF SOMEBODY CUTS DOWN A TREE, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO.
YOU NEED TO SERIOUSLY CHARGE THEM SO THAT IT HURTS BECAUSE ONCE THEY HAVE TO PAY SOMETHING THAT HURTS, YOU KNOW, 10,000, $50,000, THEY PROBABLY WILL NOT DO IT AGAIN REAL SOON.
MINSHEW IN OUR RAPIDLY GROWING AREA, WHAT WILL YOU DO DIFFERENTLY TO PRESERVE OUR NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES? AND HOW WILL YOU FIGHT AGAINST LOSS OF CONTROL OF GROWTH? THANK YOU. SO I DO NOT ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE LOST CONTROL OF GROWTH IN THE CITY.
WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND COMP PLAN THAT TALKS ABOUT DENSITY, THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT IS THE DENSITY ALLOWED IN THE R ONE, R TWO ARE THREE ZONING DISTRICTS WHICH ARE THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE RESIDENTIAL. WHEN A SOMEBODY ANNEX IS INTO THE CITY, IF IT'S A BUILDER COMING IN, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO AGREE TO COME IN UNDER THE CITY CODES, NOT THE COUNTY CODES.
SO THAT IS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
SO IF YOU WANT TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY AND YOU WANT TO GET ON CITY, SEWER AND WATER, THEN YOU WILL ALSO ABIDE BY THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING AND LAND FUTURE LAND USE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
THE REASON WE HAVE SO MANY TREES COMING DOWN IS AND WE CAN'T REALLY CONTROL IT AS WELL AS WE'D LIKE TO IS BECAUSE OF STATE LEGISLATOR IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
COULDN'T GET A TREE DOWN IN HIS PROPERTY.
SO HE WENT TO TALLAHASSEE AND WROTE A NEW LAW THAT ALLOWS ANY TREE COMPANY TO FILL OUT AN ARBORIST FORM AND CLAIM THAT THE TREE IS HAZARDOUS OR DANGEROUS OR DISEASED.
AND I SEE NEW PEOPLE MOVING IN AND ON MY STREET AND TAKE DOWN TREES WITH IMPUNITY.
AND I TALKED TO THE CITY ABOUT IT AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.
SO A LOT OF THIS IS A TALLAHASSEE ISSUE, NOT A LOCAL ISSUE.
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WELL, YOU KNOW, AS AS MANY OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES HAVE MENTIONED, IF THE VOTE TO DECIDE HOW THESE THINGS HAPPEN REALLY DOES COME HERE, WE HAVE NOT LOST THAT CONTROL.BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE CAN ALWAYS PUT OTHER MOVEMENTS TOGETHER THAT WILL IMPROVE THIS.
WE HAVE KEEP NASSAU BEAUTIFUL IS A LOCAL GROUP THAT PUTS TOGETHER CLEANUPS ON 14TH.
WE DID THAT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THIS FORUM WITH OUR PR PROFESSIONALS.
THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO TRY TO STRENGTHEN THAT PARTNERSHIP AND CONTINUE TO FIND OTHERS LIKE IT SO THAT OUR TREES, OUR BEACHES, ALL THESE AREAS ARE KEPT BEAUTIFUL. AND TRUTHFULLY, EVEN CONSIDERING A BEACH PARKING FEE STRUCTURE, SOMETHING POTENTIALLY WHERE CITY RESIDENTS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS COUNTY, RESIDENTS PAY A SLIGHTLY INCREASED FEE AND NON COUNTY RESIDENTS PAID EVEN FURTHER INCREASED FEE TO JUSTIFY THAT.
WHEN PEOPLE DRIVE OVER THE BRIDGE AND DRIVE ON THE BEACH AND ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE BEACH, THE PARKS, THERE'S SOME WAY TO OFFSET WHAT THAT COST IS TO THE CITY BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING FOR IT WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.
WITH THAT, WE'LL HAVE YOU DO A TWO MINUTE RAP.
SO YOU HAVE 2 MINUTES JUST TO CONVINCE US WHY YOU ARE THE BEST CANDIDATE.
AND WE WILL START MR. LATANOWICH WITH YOU.
THANK YOU. WELL, I WANT TO THANK CONCERNED FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA FOR HOSTING US.
NUMBER ONE, I STAND ON MY RECORD.
FOR FOUR YEARS, I HAVE FOUGHT FOR OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
I KEEP FIGHTING FOR THE RESIDENTS AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE CHALLENGES ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.
I TAKE ALL PHONE CALLS, I ANSWER ALL MY EMAILS.
I DIRECT TRAFFIC AT SECOND AND CENTER DURING EVENTS.
I ALWAYS WANT TO HEAR YOUR IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS.
I'VE BEEN HONORED TO BE YOUR MAYOR.
I'D BE HONORED TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT FOR OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT IS ON THAT WEBSITE.
THANK YOU, MR. NIKOLA. THANK YOU.
FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE.
IT'S A FRUSTRATING TOPIC FOR US.
SO, ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PARTICIPATE.
FRIENDS OF CONCERN, FRIENDS OF FERDINAND.
AUDIENCE I HOPE YOU'VE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF TONIGHT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PROGRAMS THAT PROMOTE THAT CAUSE.
THAT'S PART OF THE MAGIC THAT'S KEPT THE NATIVES HERE THAT BRINGS PEOPLE HERE LIKE LIKE ME AND YOU.
LIKE I SAID, WE GOT TO WORK WITH SOME PARTNERS TO GET SOME THINGS DONE.
EASY STUFF. I PROMISE I WILL LISTEN TO YOU.
IF I HAVE ANSWERED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME.
I'M OPEN AND AGAIN I WILL LISTEN TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AND I'D BE HONORED TO HAVE YOUR VOTE.
A PERSON THAT YOU CAN TRUST TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
THANK YOU. AND I'D BE HONORED TO HAVE YOUR VOTE.
PLEASE CONTACT ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
AND FOR ME, THIS, THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT THE VISION THAT WE ALL HAVE FOR FERNANDINA.
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EVERY ONE OF YOU HAS A VISION OF WHAT YOU THINK FERNANDINA LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT YOU WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE TEN, 20 OR 30 YEARS FROM NOW.YOU'RE GOING TO PASS THIS THIS SMALL TOWN OFF TO PEOPLE THAT YOU LOVE DEARLY THAT ARE YOUNGER THAN YOU, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT YOU HAND OVER TO THEM SAYS A LOT ABOUT WHO WE ARE.
WE'VE BEEN GIVEN A GREAT HERITAGE AND IT'S TIME FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT IT AND TO MOVE FORWARD WISELY, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST HAPHAZARDLY, BUT TO MOVE FORWARD REALLY WISELY.
AND THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO AFFECT THE NEXT GENERATION.
I APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE AND I'M JUST KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT ME.
I'M ON FACEBOOK, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.
THANK YOU. MS.. MINSHEW THANK YOU TO THE CONCERNED FRIENDS IN FRONT OF DINA FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AND HOW WE CAN MAKE OUR CITY BETTER FOR TODAY AND TOMORROW.
I'D LIKE TO END TONIGHT TALKING ABOUT EXPERIENCE, LEADERSHIP.
I WORKED FOR 40 YEARS IN THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY, HAD A REWARDING CAREER THAT ALLOWED ME TO GAIN THE EXPERIENCE IN THE LEADERSHIP THAT I KNOW I CAN USE TO MAKE FERNANDINA BEACH BETTER.
MY DEFINITION OF LEADERSHIP IS SOMEONE WHO WILL ALWAYS LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS, BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO DIVERGENT OPINIONS AND FIND COMMON GROUND, ASK HARD QUESTIONS, BE WILLING TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS, AND NEVER, EVER, EVER WORRY ABOUT WHO GETS THE CREDIT.
ALSO, ALWAYS AND REMEMBER, I'M THE CANDIDATE.
YOU HAVE SEEN IT EVERY CITY COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
I'M THE CANDIDATE WHO IS NOT JUST A LONG TERM RESIDENT OF FERNANDINA BEACH, BUT A CANDIDATE WHO IS A LONGTIME VOLUNTEER WITH GOVERNMENT AND WITH NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WORKING TO MAKE OUR CITY EVEN BETTER.
SO I'M READY. TO BE YOUR NEXT CITY COMMISSIONER FOR SEAT FIVE.
YOU CAN GO TO MY WEBSITE WW MINSHEW FOR YOU MY FACEBOOK PAGE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT ME AND MY PLANS.
AND I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR VOTE ON NOVEMBER EIGHT.
THANK YOU, MR. ANTON, I REMEMBERED.
THANK YOU. CONCERNED FRIENDS OF FRIEND GINA FOR HOSTING OUR FORUM TODAY.
I'VE OPENED NOT ONE, BUT TWO BUSINESSES IN THE CITY.
FURTHERMORE, WITH THOSE BUSINESSES, WE PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS IN SUPPORTING THINGS IN THIS COMMUNITY, AS I'VE MENTIONED, FROM YOUTH SPORTS TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB TO THE ROTARY SCHOLARSHIP FOUNDATION, I THINK IF THIS IS THE KIND OF ENERGY YOU CAN SEE FROM ME WHEN I'M NOT WORKING ON THE CITY COMMISSION, THEN YOU CAN ONLY EXPECT THE SAME, IF NOT BETTER. WHEN I AM ON THE CITY COMMISSION, I HAVE LONG TERM INVOLVEMENT BECAUSE I DON'T PLAN ON MOVING ANYWHERE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE WHERE MY WIFE AND I RAISE OUR CHILD AND POTENTIALLY MORE THAN ONE CHILDREN.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM HAVING SEVERAL HOURS OF A COMMISSION MEETING AS WE'VE SEEN IT GO ON WHERE THERE ARE HEATED DEBATES, ALL IN THE NAME OF GETTING TO A SOLUTION, NOT NECESSARILY IN THE NAME OF A PERSONAL AGENDA OR ANYONE INDIVIDUALLY GETTING ANY KIND OF CREDIT.
SO FOR THAT, I HOPE TO BE YOUR FUTURE CITY COMMISSION FOR SEE FOR.
AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE WANT TO THANK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES FOR ATTENDING THE FORUM.
CONCERN FRIENDS OF BERNARDINE.
VOTING IS THE MOST BASIC RIGHT IN THIS COUNTRY AND ELECTIONS ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT.
THE NOVEMBER ELECTION WILL BE ON TUESDAY THE EIGHTH.
AND WE WANT TO REMIND THE CITIZENS OF FERNANDINA BEACH THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ELECTION FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS CITY, OUR CITY, OUR HOME. OUR POST PRODUCTION PROCESS OF CLOSE CAPTIONING FOR TONIGHT'S FORUM WILL TAKE SEVERAL DAYS.
BUT ONCE THAT PROCESS IS COMPLETED, THE TONIGHT'S FORUM WILL BE AVAILABLE TO BE VIEWED AGAIN ON THE CITY'S LOCAL PUBLIC EDUCATION GOVERNMENT TV CHANNEL AS WELL AS ON COMCAST CHANNEL 264.
WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT TIMES WHEN IT WILL BE REBROADCAST, BUT PLEASE TELL YOUR FRIENDS AND ANYBODY WHO MIGHT HAVE MISSED THIS EVENING'S EVENT TO STAY TUNED AT THE COMCAST CHANNEL 264.
THAT WILL BE THE PLACE YOU WILL BE VIEWED.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING AND THANK YOU, AUDIENCE, FOR JOINING US.
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GOOD NIGHT.