[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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          >> PLEASE BE SEATED. CLAUSE TO ORDER THE SEPTEMBER 20 , 2022 REGULAR MEETING FOR THE CITY COMMISSION. 
          MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 
          (ROLL CALL). >> THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          PERSONAL DEVICES, IF YOU COULD PUT THEM ON AIRPLANE, SILENT OR COMPLETELY OFF THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED . COVID-19 IS STILL WITH US. PLEASE TAKE ANY MEASURES TO PROTECT YOUR HEALTH OR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OTHERS. 
          IT WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED VICE MAYOR LEAD US THROUGH THE PLEDGE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION BY PASTOR TIFFANY GULAMA BY THE PRINCE CHAPEL AME CHURCH. 
          >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE PLIGHT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY . IT IS A PLEASURE. 
          LET US PRAY. ALMIGHTY GOD WE GIVE THANKS AND PRAISE FOR ALL OF YOUR WORDS. YOU ARE LOVING AND GOOD AND GOOD AND GRACIOUS. THANK YOU FOR CREATING US AND SUSTAINING US DAY BY DAY. THANK YOU, THAT YOU MADE US IN YOUR IMAGE TO EXIST IN COMMUNITY WITH ONE ANOTHER . THANK YOU FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, CHURCHES AND FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS THAT MAKE FERNANDINA BEACH THE GREAT PLACE THAT IT IS. WE ACKNOWLEDGE WE DO NOT DESERVE THESE GIFTS YOU HAVE GIVEN US. WE ARE NOT WORTHY OF YOUR FAVOR . WE HAVE SINNED AGAINST YOU INDEED. 
          WILL NOT ALWAYS LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS WITH OUR WHOLE HEARTS. 
          WE APPEAL TO THE LAMB OF GOD, FORGIVE US AND GIVE US HEARTS OF OBEDIENCE TO OBEY YOUR HURLEY WORD . GRANT OUR CITY THAT CONFESSES JESUS AS LORD A CITY OF PEACE AND HOPE. 
          A CITY WITH HAPPY HOMES. THE CITY THAT WELCOMES STRANGERS AND CARES FOR THE NEEDY. I PLAY FOR THIS COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT . GIVE EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WISDOM AND GUIDANCE AS THEY DELIBERATE ON THE ITEMS BEFORE THEM. 
          MADE EVERY DECISION BE RIGHTEOUS IN YOUR SITE FOR OUR BENEFIT AND YOUR GLORY . IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SUN AND HOLY SPIRIT WE 
          [4.1 PROCLAMATION - "AMERICAN BUSINESS WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION (ABWA) EIGHT FLAGS CHARTER CHAPTER"]
          PRAY, AMEN. >> THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          >> COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE THREE PROCLAMATIONS. 
          TO OF WHICH I WILL PRESENT AND VICE MAYOR WILL PRESENT THE 
          THIRD. >> AMERICAN BUSINESS WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION . 
          >> THANK YOU SO MUCH . THE PROCLAMATION READS AS FOLLOWS. 
          WHEREAS THE AMERICAN BUSINESS WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION THE ABWA IS A NATIONAL, PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION FOUNDED IN 1949. 
          IN THE AFTERMATH OF WORLD WAR II, WHEN MANY WOMEN ENTERED THE WORKFORCE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN AN EFFORT TO FILL THE GAP LEFT BY SOLDIERS FIGHTING OVERSEAS. IN 1969, THE ABWA, EIGHT FLAX CHARTER, WAS FOUNDED IN FERNANDINA BEACH TO SERVE ALL OF NASSAU FLORIDA . SINCE ITS INCEPTION 53 YEARS AGO ABWA HAS TIRELESSLY SERVED WORKING WOMEN AND BRINGING THEM TOGETHER TO HELP THEM BRING NATIONAL RECOGNITION . ABWA IS AN EQUAL 
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OPPORTUNITY ORGANIZATION THEREFORE I MICHAEL A LEDNOVICH AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, AS WELL AS MY FELLOW CITY COMMISSIONERS, DO HEREBY DECLARE OUR GRATITUDE TO THE ABWA EIGHT FLAX CHARTER CHAPTER, CONGRATULATIONS . 
          >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THE CITY CLERK HATES WHEN I 
          [4.2 PROCLAMATION - "LES DEMERLE AMELIA ISLAND JAZZ FESTIVAL WEEK"]
DO THIS. I DEVIATE FROM THE SCRIPT. 
          SO WHEN I AM ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE, I SEE THESE TWO WONDERFUL PEOPLE FREQUENTLY. AND JUST AS THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE BIG SMILES ON THEIR FACES. 
          HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW GO TO WORK EVERY DAY WITH BIG SMILES ON THEIR FACES, THEY ARE PASSIONATE AND DO SO MUCH FOR OUR COMMUNITY . IT SHOWS, I CAN JUST LOOK AT THE PHOTOS . WITH THE KIDS, THE ADULTS AND THE PROGRAMS AND I CAN TELL . I APPRECIATE THAT . NOW I WILL GO TO THE SCRIPT. 
          >> THANK YOU MAYOR. >> FOR MANY YEARS THE AMELIA ISLAND JAZZ FESTIVAL HAS BROUGHT JAZZ AND ENTERTAINMENT TO FERNANDINA BEACH AND STYLES INCLUDING TEMPORARY, LATIN, SWING, DIXIELAND, BLUES AND MORE. 
          THIS YEAR THE AMELIA ISLAND JAZZ FESTIVAL IS FEATURING GRAMMY AWARD-WINNING HEADLINER PERFORMERS WHICH INCLUDE LEGENDARY JAZZ GUITARIST VOCALIST JOHN P. 
          AND HIS TRIO. INTERNATIONALLY ACCLAIMED SAXOPHONIST CLARA, RENOWNED LATIN GROUP KELLY ENTE, THE 21 P OF NORTH FLORIDA DIRECTED BY DENNIS. 
          THE SPARERIBS SIX DIXIELAND BAND. 
          YOU HAVE TO LOVE THAT NAME. AND THE DYNAMIC "LES DEMERLE AMELIA ISLAND JAZZ FESTIVAL WEEK". 
          FEATURING MS. BONNIE EISELE. GIVE HER A HAND. 
          IT IS TRULY AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO HAVE THESE WORLD-CLASS PERFORMERS AMONGST US. 
          THEY ARE THE REASON WHY, THESE TWO RIGHT HERE THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE. IN AN EFFORT TO REACH OUT TO AS MANY CONCERTGOERS AS POSSIBLE OF THE AMELIA ISLAND JAZZ FESTIVAL IS OFFERING A WIDE RANGE OF CONCERT VENUES INCLUDING THE COURTYARD OF AMELIA ISLAND'S AND THE BEER COMPANY . THEY HAVE MANY PROGRAMS AND CONTINUED EDUCATION FOR HIGH SCHOOL POSITIONS WHO DESIRE TO STUDY JAZZ IN COLLEGE . THEREFORE I MICHAEL LEDNOVICH WITH THE AUTHORITY INVESTED IN ME AS 
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MAYOR AND MY FELLOW CITY COMMISSIONERS, DO HEREBY ENCOURAGE THE CITIZENS OF FERNANDINA BEACH TO PARTICIPATE AND BE AMELIA ISLAND JAZZ FESTIVAL CELEBRATION AND FURTHER PROCLAIMED PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 2-9 AS "LES DEMERLE AMELIA ISLAND JAZZ FESTIVAL WEEK" CONGRATULATIONS. 
          MY PLEASURE . >> THANK YOU SO MUCH . WE ARE HONORED. THIS IS ALBERT 19TH YEAR PRESENTING THE AMELIA ISLAND JAZZ FESTIVAL . WE MOVED HERE IN 1991 WHEN WE OPEN THE RITZ-CARLTON HOTEL . THAT LASTED UNTIL 9-11. THEN THE BUDGETS WERE CUT AND IN ORDER TO KEEP WORKING WE HAD TO DO CONTRACTS AND WE SAID WE LOVE AMELIA ISLAND SO MUCH, WE WANTED TO START THE AMELIA ISLAND JAZZ FESTIVAL . THE FIRST FEW YEARS DOING IT OURSELVES AND THEN GIVING AWAY SCHOLARSHIPS. WE ARE SO HONORED TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE VOLUNTEERS . WE ALSO HAVE THE SPONSORSHIP, CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY INTO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO . THE MAIN THING, IS TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING WITH 
          IT . WE GOT MARRIED IN 1988 . >> LECTURE I WILL PUT THAT IN 
          THE PROCLAMATION . >> ANYWAY, WE DECIDED WE HAVE TO PAY IT FORWARD. THAT IS WHAT IT IS ABOUT . TODAY I WORKED WITH 8-YEAR-OLD KIDS TEACHING THEM THE HISTORY OF JAZZ . THAT IS WHAT KEEPS ME GOING . TODAY WE WILL START AT FARMERS MARKET SHOWCASING OUR SCHOLARSHIP WINNER CAMERON DIVINE . A NAME FROM FERNANDINA AND WE WILL HAVE EVERYONE COME BY AND SAY HELLO . WITH THE ENSEMBLE . 
          THIS IS KIND OF COOL . SHE WILL PUT TOGETHER BARBECUE WITH BB KING . THE VERY NEXT DAY IS OUR SPONSOR PARTY . AND THEN THE WEDNESDAY SHOW, WE WILL BE THERE AND WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF MUSIC . IF YOU WANT TO COME OUT AND DANCE. 
          DO SO. THAT LINERS WILL BE ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY . 
          ALL OFF SHE CAN ASK SHE SAYING TO ME JOIN US PLEASE THANK YOU 
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          SO MUCH . >> ANYBODY ELSE, PLEASE COME 
          [4.3 PROCLAMATION - "NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH"]
          APPEAR PLEASE. >> THIS IS A PROCLAMATION WHEREAS IN THE UNITED STATES NATIONAL HERITAGE MONTH CELEBRATED FROM SEPTEMBER 15-OCTOBER 15 . THIS IS BECAUSE IT COINCIDES WITH LATIN AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE DAY'S COMMEMORATION . INCLUDING COSTA RICA AND NORTH GUATEMALA 
          NICARAGUA, MEXICO AND CHILE . >> NATIONAL HISPANIC HISTORY MONTH CELEBRATES ANALYST STRESSORS WHO CAME FROM SPAIN, MEXICO OR THE CARIBBEAN AND SOUTH AMERICA . 
          >> WHEREAS THE HISPANIC PERSON CONNECT TO THE EARLY 1500S AND SUCH THEIR CULTURE IS INDISPUTABLE AND THE VIBRANT ATMOSPHERE TO MAKE THIS A GREAT PLACE TO WORK AND VISIT . 
          >> TO CONTRIBUTE TO AMERICAN CULTURE . 
          >> WHEREAS THE COMMEMORATIVE MONTH HONORS THE INFLUENCE AND IMPACT OF HISPANICS AND SOCIETY AN OPPORTUNITY . TAKING PRIDE WITH THOSE ROOTS AND THE DIVERSITY THAT THESE CULTURES 
          OFFER . >> I VICE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF 
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FERNANDINA BEACH TO PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 15-OCTOBER 15200 -- 2022 -- DOES HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. 
          DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? 
          KNOW THEIR NAMES . >> BEFORE HE GETS UP TO TALK. 
          >> IT IS GREAT TO SEE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY EMBRACE THE DIVERSITY 
          . >> FIRST I WANT TO SAY, OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH THOSE IN PUERTO RICO AND THE DOMINICAN WHO ARE SUFFERING RIGHT NOW . WE ARE HOPING EVERYTHING IS OKAY. TODAY, WE ARE CELEBRATING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, WE ARE HAVING THE FERNANDINA BEACH HISPANIC FOOD FESTIVAL. IT WILL BE DOWNTOWN, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE HAMPTON INN, BETWEEN ASH STREET AND CENTER STREET IN THE WATERFRONT AREA. TO HIGHLIGHT THE DIVERSE HISPANIC CULTURE THROUGH FOOD . HOPEFULLY, WE CAN GET SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE . AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THIS CITY WITH THE LATIN NAME FERNANDINA IS HISPANIC, JUST THE NAME ALONE . ( INDISCERNIBLE ) THAT HERITAGE IS FILLED IN THIS LITTLE TOWN SAINT AUGUSTINE. 
          ANY TOWN YOU GO BY, WE ARE AVAILABLE. 
          IF YOU SEE HISPANICS OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY SAY SOMETHING TO THEM. 
          WELCOME THEM AND COME JOIN US AT THE FESTIVAL . IT WILL BE OCTOBER 8, SATURDAY FROM 4:00 P.M.-8:00 P.M. 
          >> MAY BE SANTANA. AND A SHOUT OUT TO EVERYONE. 
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          >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. >> COMMISSIONERS I WANT TO INTRODUCE THE PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR . SHE STARTED YESTERDAY 
          AND EVEN CAME BACK TODAY . >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COMMISSION. I AM THRILLED TO BE HERE . YES, I HAVE BEEN HERE TWO DAYS I AM THE NEWEST. 
          I AM EXCITED TO SERVE AND BRING PARKS AND REC TO ANOTHER LEVEL. 
          I HAVE NOT MET THE STAFF, BUT I HAVE A GREAT TEAM. 
          THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS WE HAVE MET . EVERY DAY, FOR THE LAST TWO DAYS HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL. I AM REALLY EXCITED . IT IS NICE TO MEET ALL OF YOU. . 
          [4.4 BUDGET SUMMARY]
          SUMMARY,. >> GOOD EVENING AUGUST IS THE 11TH MONTH AND REPRESENT 91.7% OF THE BUDGET IN FISCAL YEAR. 
          FOR THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE IT IS AT 111% AND THIS IS DUE TO THE FINAL PAYMENT FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. 
          OVERALL THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSES ARE AT 81.5 HOWEVER THERE ARE SOME DEPARTMENTS OVER THIS MARK DUE TO THE PAYMENT OF THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTOR ALL OF THE TRANSFERS FOR THE MONTH HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. FOR THE CAPITAL FUND . THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THE PAYROLL SYSTEM, POLICE EQUIPMENT, STREET PAVING, AND THE REMAINING PROJECT . FOR THE GOLF COURSE MEMBERSHIP IS UP $62,000 VERSUS LAST YEAR. ALL UTILITY FUND REVENUES EXCEEDED EXPENSES EXCEPT THE WASTEWATER. 
          FOR THE MARINA SALES ARE AT 35% OF THE BUDGET. 
          [5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE. THANK YOU MA'AM . ITEM FIVE. 
          PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR THE CONSENT AGENDA. I HAVE TO REQUEST TO SPEAK. 
          HE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PART. 
          WELCOME SIR. YOU MAY GIVE YOUR NAME AND 
          ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> I AM AN FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA . THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          I AM HERE REALLY TO REQUEST GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL REGARDING THE PARK. I AM PART OF THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PARK . AS YOU KNOW WE PROVIDED NOTICE WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE WAY THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING ON . SO REALLY THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT. THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I HAVE DRAFT LEASES BUT WE ARE WASTING OUR TIME UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD AMBIVALENT BUT WHATEVER YOU DECIDE AND HOWEVER YOU WANT TO 
          PROCEED IS FINE WITH US. >> AND CORRECT ME IF I GET THIS WRONG. WHAT HE IS ASKING US FOR, WHICH ONE OF THE THREE OPTIONS, ONE YEAR, FIVE YEAR, BUT WE PREFER. 
          ONCE HE KNOWS THAT, HE CAN COME BACK TO US WITH THE EXACT NUMBERS. SO IF IT IS A LEASE AGREEMENT WE WILL HAVE THE EXACT FIGURE OF ONE THE LEASE AGREEMENT WILL BE AND THEN WE WOULD APPROVE IT AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          WHAT HE IS LOOKING FOR IS NOT PUTTING THREE PIECES TOGETHER . 
          HE WANTS TO PUT TOGETHER ONE . IF WE COULD HAVE A CONSENSUS OF WHAT OPTIONS WE FAVOR WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AT THE NEXT 
          MEETING. >> A COUPLE OF MORE DETAILS IN THE LEASE ITSELF. WE DON'T WANT TO TOO DEEP INTO 
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SOMETHING . IT WILL BE ROUGHLY IN THOSE TERMS AND THEN WE WILL 
          HAVE MORE DETAILS . >> COMMISSIONER ROSS . 
          >> THE FIRST ONE IS IT REALLY A ONE MONTH LEASE . IT WOULD COST 
          ABOUT $20,000 . >> THAT IS NOT CORRECT . IF WE TERMINATE THE LEASE AFTER 60 DAYS WE WOULD REIMBURSE. 
          >> I WAS GOING TO SAY IF WE WENT THE WHOLE YEAR. 
          >> IT IS A MONTH TO MONTH LEASE WITH A KICK OUT. 
          >> IT WOULD BE A ONE YEAR LEASE. IF WE TERMINATE IT BEFORE THE YEAR IS UP WE WOULD GIVE BACK TO THE CITY WHAT WE DID NOT USE. 
          >> I AGREE WITH YOU. >> THE SECOND OPTION IS FOR SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY WE COULD GET A FIVE YEAR LEASE. 
          AND THAT COST WOULD BE IN EXCESS OF $100,000 . 
          >> BEAR MARKET. >> I WANT TO SAY IT'S NOT JUST MY FAMILY, FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS WE HAVE OWNED IT TOGETHER . 
          PROBABLY COME UP BETWEEN 150-$175,000 . 
          >> I THINK I'VE WATCHED THE PARKS AND REC. 
          TO ME, I THINK IF WE MAINTAIN THE PARK OR DURING THE YEAR. 
          >> I AM LEANING TOWARDS A WAY TO KEEP THE PROPERTY. 
          >> COMMISSIONER STURGIS. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          1ST AND FOREMOST. I THINK THE CITY AND THE FAMILY OWES YOU, WE LIKE THE WAY YOU USE THE PROPERTY. 
          BASICALLY RENT-FREE AND TAX-FREE , AND EXPENSE FREE. 
          HOWEVER, I REALLY JUST DON'T SEE ANY WAY WE COULD SUPPORT THIS IN MY PERSONAL OPINION. SO I WILL BE MOVING FOR OPTION C. IF THERE WAS A WEIGHT THAT WAS ECONOMICAL, AND WE DID HAVE SUPPORT I WOULD SUPPORT THE METHOD BUT I REALLY CAN'T SEE SPENDING $100,000 PER YEAR AND RENT. THAT IS JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. THAT IS MOST PEOPLE'S OPINION. 
          IT JUST -- AND I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY . I UNDERSTAND THE NATURE, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE CITY AND YOU 
          BEING SO GRACIOUS . >> WE JUST HAD A BUDGET HEARING. 
          CUTTING EXPENSES AND NOW WE HAVE NO WAY OF PAYING FOR IT . IF 
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SOMEONE COULD GENERATE THE $100,000 OR WHATEVER IT TURNS OUT TO BE, WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LISTEN TO THAT OPTION . 
          BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO ELIMINATE. 
          THAT IS WHY -- I WOULD PREFER OPTION C . UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO STEP UP TO THE TABLE WITH A CHECKBOOK, OR SOMEONE ELSE CAN COME UP WITH A WAY TO TAKE OUT OF THE CITY BUDGET, BECAUSE IT IS CERTAINLY NOT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR . 
          >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE YEAR. 
          PER YEAR IS 60 DAYS . WHAT I AM SAYING IS I WOULD LIKE OTHERS TO STEP UP, TO PUT THAT MONEY UP SO WE COULD MAINTAIN IT. 
          >> ACTUALLY, THE BEST OPTION IS SOMEONE COME FORWARD WITH AN OPTION, LIKE A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE WILLING TO USE THAT SPACE AS AN OPEN SPACE WHICH WOULD MAINTAIN PART OF THE PARK FEATURE . ACTUALLY, IN THE PAST WE HAD IDEAS ON HOW TO DO THAT . 
          >> WE ARE OPEN FOR CONVERSATION . 
          >> I WILL TAKE A VOTE ON THIS TO DIRECT HIM . I WILL MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT . I CANNOT IMAGINE THE CITY WITHOUT THAT PART . I HAVE SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND I SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE USE THAT PART ON A DAILY BASIS . I CANNOT IMAGINE, AND I WAS AT THE PARKS AND RECREATION MEETING . ONE ASKED WHAT WOULD YOU DO ON OPTION C, FENCE IT IN . IMAGINE THAT SPACE HAVING A FENCE. I CANNOT IMAGINE THAT . THAT IS FIRST OF ALL. MIGHT SECOND.IS, WE PAY $4 MILLION THAT THE COUNTY CONTROLS ANOTHER EXAMPLE, $20,000 TO THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL WAS NOTHING . THEY COLLECT $13 MILLION . I BELIEVE THEY USE THAT PARK A LOT FOR THE CITY EVENTS. BUT, GIVEN THAT IS NOT ON THE TABLE THERE IS $20,000 TO KEEP IT. 
          WE ARE NOT CUTTING THE BUDGET . WE ARE NOT PUTTING A TOLL ON ANYONE, THE MONEY IS THERE, AND IT IS PARKS CONTINGENCY . I WOULD FAVOR OPTION A, I AM GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL . I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE INSTRUCT HIM TO DRAFT A LEASE ON BOTH STIPULATIONS OF OPTION A . 
          >> YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE CAPITAL FUND . 
          >> THANK YOU, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WILL DO. 
          >> SO HERE IS WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM . THIS IS NOT A YEARS 
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LEASE, IT IS A YEARS LEASE BUT THEY CAN BREAK IT AT ANY TIME WITH 60 DAY NOTICE . AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHERE WILL WE BE. 
          IT DOES NOT PRECLUDE THEM FROM BREAKING THOSE LEASE IF THEY FIND A SUITABLE PERSON . YOU ARE JUST PROLONGING -- IF YOU WANT TO SPEND MONEY TO PROLONG THE INEVITABLE, BUT -- IT IS A NICE PLACE, BUT WE ARE JUST SPENDING MONEY ON THE INEVITABLE . 
          >> I THINK ANYONE HERE WOULD AGREE THAT IT THINGS DON'T HAPPEN IN 60 DAYS, FOR BETTER OR WORSE. 
          IF I ADD A PROJECTS WERE READY TO PRESENT TOMORROW THERE'S NO CHANCE ON EARTH IT WOULD BE APPROVED IN 60 DAYS . IT MAY TAKE SIX MONTHS, IT MAY TAKE TWO YEARS OR FIVE YEARS . AND IF I FOUND IT TOMORROW, IT WOULD TAKE SIX MONTHS OF DESIGN . THREE MONTHS OF BIDDING, 3-4 MONTHS OF PERMITTING, EVERYTHING . WE ARE A YEAR OUT AT BEST . YOU ARE ROCK SOLID KNOWING, YOU WILL HAVE 9-12 MONTHS FROM TODAY . I THINK THAT IS JUST REALISTIC . 
          >> AND THE OTHER ARGUMENT I WOULD MAKE, BY FUNDING, USING OPTION A WEEKS IN THOSE LIFE OF THE PARK AND THAT GIVES US TIME TO GET ANOTHER BUSINESS, ANOTHER PERSON WHO WANTS TO KEEP THE PARK ALIVE . WE ARE NOT SLAMMING THE DOOR . IF WE GO WITH OPTION C, THE FENCE IS GOING UP. AND THE FENCE GOES UP . AND AS MAYOR, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT. WHITE KNIGHT USE THE $20,000 . 
          >> JOHN, YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING THIS PROPERTY, CORRECT . YOU ARE PROBABLY INTERESTED IN AND I AM ASKING AS A QUESTION . A GROUND LEASE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. 
          SO WHOEVER WOULD COME DEVELOP THAT -- 
          >> THERE'S NO SET PROJECT . THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION BUT NO DEAL MADE. I'M COMING TO THE CITY FIRST . 
          >> LISA FINKELSTEIN. THIS IS A LITTLE IMPROMPTU BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THIS TOPIC WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING . SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT HE IS HERE AND THE FACT THAT WE AS THE CITY HAVE THE BENEFIT OF USING THIS. 
          WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON THE VALUE OF THE PARK . BUT OUR BOARD HAS DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH AND FEELS HAVING A LONG-TERM PARK, THE LONG TERM LEASE OPTION WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR DOWNTOWN . 
          IT IS HEAVILY USED. IT IS A GREAT SPACE. 
          WE DO RECOGNIZE IT IS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY . 
          HAVING ONGOING DISCUSSIONS AS THIS EVOLVES, THE FEELING IS THAT THE SHORT TERM LEASE OPTION, THE ANNUAL LEASE OPTION MAY BE A BETTER ROUTE TO GO. THE REASON, IT PROVIDES THAT AS A PUBLIC SPACE AND LEAVES IT AS IS UNTIL IT IS READY TO BE DEVELOPED . WHATEVER THAT DEVELOPMENT MAY BE. 
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TO HAVE A FENCE PUT ACROSS THAT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF DOWNTOWN WOULD BE SAD. AS HE POINTED OUT, NO PROJECT ESPECIALLY THAT SCOPE WOULD HAPPEN IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THE FEELING IS IF WE COULD MAINTAIN THAT AS PUBLIC SPACE UNTIL ANOTHER PROJECT IS APPROVED, THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. FOR NOW WE ARE CONTINUING TO GET 
          FEEDBACK FROM OUR BUSINESSES . >> THANK YOU . 
          CALL THE VOTE. >> THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT MR. JASON. >> JASON GRAY 1616 FRANKLIN STREET. MR. MAYOR MR. VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS I HAVE RECENTLY HAD DISCUSSION WITH YOU GENTLEMEN, TWO OF THE FERNANDINA BEACH POLICE OFFICERS REGARDING TRAFFIC, SPEEDING ON FRANKLIN STREET. 
          IM A RESIDENT THERE FOR TWO AND HALF YEARS. 
          I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS. ONE GRANDCHILD. 
          THERE HAS BEEN AN INFLUX OF KIDS MOVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FERNANDINA BEACH. WE HAVE GONE DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE, TO AN APP YEARS AGO WHEN I MOVED IN . THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PUT UP A SPEED MONITORING DEVICE, AND POSTED OFFICERS BUT I UNDERSTAND OFFICERS HAVE TO MOVE ON THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT NEED THEIR ATTENTION . PEOPLE JUST RESUMED SPEEDING AND TRAFFIC CONTINUED ON THAT ROAD . I DID HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE POLICE OFFICER AND HE DID NOT NOTICE A HIGH AMOUNT OF PEOPLE SPEEDING. BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO NOTE THE PLACEMENT OF THE FIRST SPEED SENSOR WAS 30 FEET FROM A STOP SIGN . PEOPLE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO BUILD UP SPEED . THERE IS A BLIND CURVE THAT GOES DOWNHILL. 
          THE PERSON JET JUST MOVED IN THERE HE SAID HE ESCORTS HIS SON UP THE HILL AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A TEENAGE CHILD BECAUSE HE IS AFRAID HIS CHILD WILL BE HIT BY MOTORISTS . EVERY PERSON ON THE STREET HAS VOICED THEIR CONCERNS TO ME. 
          AND EVERY PERSON HAS ALLOWED ME TOO INCLUDE THEM ON AN E-MAIL TO YOU GENTLEMEN. IT HAS BEEN POINTED OUT TO ME, BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, LET ME TRY TO PHRASE THIS CORRECTLY, THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T WANT A STOP SIGN PLACED IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME. WHEN THAT WAS POINTED OUT TO ME, TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS I WENT TO THEM TO ASK THEM IF THEY WERE OKAY WITH A STOP SIGN IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE AND THEY ALL SAID THEY WERE AND I KNOW IT IS INADMISSIBLE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HERE . BUT THEY DID AGREE TO IT. 
          EVERYONE ON THE STREET WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEE AT LEAST TWO STOPPED INTERSECTIONS AROUND THE STOP SIGN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SHOW MY FACE HERE TO LET YOU SEE ME AND MEET ME AND I LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO YOU GUYS OR ANY WORK YOU WILL DO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT IS IT . THANK YOU GENTLEMEN 
          . >> CHIEF HURLEY, COULD WE, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YOU ARE THE EXPERT . SO, IM RELIANT ON YOUR EXPERTISE, WHAT IS YOUR BEST ADVICE? 
          >> I HEARD ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY. I SENT A MESSAGE TO OUR TRAFFIC OFFICER AND INVITED HIM TO TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT IS POSITIVE IN THAT AREA. 
          I WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE GENTLEMAN. 
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WE HAVE THIS ISSUE COME UP ALL OF THE TIME IN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY WANT SOMETHING LIKE SPEED BUMPS OR STOP SIGNS, WE HAVE TO GET OUT AND WALK THE AREA AND TALK ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES. SPEED BUMPS ARE NOT NECESSARILY ENDORSED BY THE CITY. WE DO NOT INSTALL THEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE ARE WE HAVE OFFERED AT TIMES TO ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS TO PAY FOR THEM. NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. THEY DON'T WANT TO MAINTAIN THEM. THERE ARE LIABILITY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM . THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS CONSIDERING. 
          THE SAME WITH STOP SIGNS. STOP SIGNS CREATE ACCELERATION NOISE. IT CREATES STOPPING NOISE THAT PEOPLE DON'T ANTICIPATE WILL BE AN ISSUE UNTIL THEY EXPERIENCE IT IN IT BECOMES MORE OF A PROBLEM. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE HERE WE ARE WILLING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. 
          >> WILL YOU GATHER YOUR PRESIDENTS TOGETHER AND CORRELATE WITH THE CHEAP FOR A MEETING . 
          >> OUR OFFICERS HAVE ALREADY MET WITH -- 
          >> OKAY. I WILL MEET WITH MR. GRAY . 
          >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I HAVE A QUESTION . SO, THE NATURE OF THE STOP SIGN, WOULD THAT BE THE FIRST THING TO LOOK 
          AT. >> IF THE STOP SIGN IS A 
          SOLUTION, YES . >> THAT COULD BE. 
          >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? I SEE NONE WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. GENTLEMEN, DO YOU WANT ANY ITEMS 
          PULLED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD BY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. 
          (ROLL CALL) THE CONSENT AGENDA PAST 5-0. 
          [7. RESOLUTIONS]
ITEM SEVEN RESOLUTIONS . IN ADDITION TO THIS AGENDA, IT IS RESOLUTION 2022 -- 176. I BELIEVE THE CITY CLERK AS PAST THE RESOLUTION OUT TO EVERYONE FOR YOUR REVIEW. 
          AND CITY MANAGER, YOU WILL REVIEW IT OR THE CITY ATTORNEY 
          >> FIRST WE NEED FO TO ADD IT TO THE AGENDA . 
          >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CALLED THE VOTE. (ROLL CALL) IT IS ADDED TO THE AGENDA. LET'S DEAL WITH IT . 
          >> THIS IS OUR ANNUAL INSURANCE RENEWAL. 
          IT DOES NOT INCLUDE LIKE BENEFITS BUT IT IS CASUALLY PART OF THE INSURANCE THAT THE CITY TAKES OUT FOR REAL PROPERTY. 
          IT'S ALSO LIABILITY WHICH INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM THE CITY'S YOUTH LIABILITY OR ACTIVITIES AT THE FACILITIES FOR YOU. LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY . 
          PUBLIC OFFICIALS LIABILITY. SO WHENEVER THERE IS A DECISION MADE HERE, IF SOMEONE FILES ANY TYPE OF ACTION CHALLENGING IT, WE HAVE INSURANCE THAT COVERS DEFENSE COSTS. 
          THOSE INSURANCE PLUS OUR SPECIAL LINES WHICH INCLUDE THE MARINA, WE HAVE POLLUTION LIABILITY INSURANCE AND IT GOES ON AND ON . THE AREAS OF SUMMARY AND HOW THE PREMIUMS HAVE CHANGED . THE TOTAL, WHAT IS THE TOTAL PERCENTAGE, 15% THROUGH ALL LINES . TO SUM IT UP, THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 15% INCREASE . 
          THAT IS BY OUR CONSULTANTS WE WERE TOLD, THE STANDARD IS MORE 
          [00:55:08]
LIKE 20% . SO WE DID PRETTY GOOD THIS YEAR. 
          ANY QUESTIONS . WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS . 
          >> FOR ANY QUESTIONS I NEED A MOTION . 
          >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND. 
          >> MINIMAL CENTISECOND I WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION. 
          COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> THIS WILL BE ADDED FROM 
          [7.1 CGC, INC. - CHANGE ORDER #2]
CENTER STREET TO ASH STREET. THE COST IS PRIMARILY THE COST RELATED TO THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION. 
          >> MOVED TO APPROVAL. >> SECOND. 
          >> IN A MOTION SECONDING DISCUSSION? THIS IS THE DEFENSE APPROVED BY THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? 
          >> ASSERT . >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE 
          CALL THE VOTE. >> IT PASSES 5-0. 
          [7.2 AUTHORIZATION TO ENGAGE OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL]
          >> AUTHORIZATION TO ENGAGE OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL. 
          LAW FIRMS THAT WILL COVER US IF I NEEDED SOMETHING 90 HELP WITH . BEFORE. THIS IS ANNUAL THAN MY BUDGET WHICH WAS APPROVED TODAY AND THE BUDGET IS $75,000. 
          THAT IS AGGREGATE FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. 
          >> HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? 
          WHAT WAS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? >> THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THE TOTAL WENT UP TO $100,000 BECAUSE WE ADDED -- I THINK 50. 
          >> HOW MANY CASES THAT WE USE OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON? 
          >> WE HAD COSTS FOR THE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) CASE I'M TRYING TO THINK, WE HAVE TWO, SO GOING FORWARD WE WILL NEED OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR WHAT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 
          >> ALL RIGHT ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. (ROLL CALL). 
          [7.3 LOBBYING SERVICES AGREEMENT – JACOBS SCHOLZ & WYLER, LLC.]
          >> IT PASSES 5-0. 7.3 LOBBING SERVICES AGREEMENT . 
          [01:00:03]
          >> THIS IS A TWO-YEAR AGREEMENT FOR THE CITY'S LOBBYIST BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL LOBBYING WITH JACOB SCHULTZ AND STAFF MOVES 
          APPROVAL. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. 
          >> ALBUM MOTION AND A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? ICING ON MEN CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE . 
          [7.4 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION PETITION FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES - 1315 S. 5TH STREET]
          (ROLL CALL). >> THE MOLSON -- MOTION PASSES 
          >> VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION PETITION FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES 1315 SOUTH FIFTH STREET. 
          >> THIS IS ONE INTEGRAL PLAN ON SOUTH FIT STREET. 
          THE PROPERTY OWNER ACTUALLY HAS WATER AND IS ASKING FOR SEWER. 
          >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION . >> COMMISSIONER STURGIS. 
          >> I WILL BE BRIEF . I THINK THIS GENTLEMAN WILL PROVIDE GREAT HOUSING FOR FAMILIES. AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, FAMILIES TO MEET HERE ON OUR ISLAND. 
          I THINK THIS IS A GREAT THING IN THOUGH MAINTAIN THAT STRIKE MEANTIME WE CAN GET RID OF SEPTIC TANKS AND THAT'S GREAT 
          FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT . >> COMMISSIONER BEAN. 
          >> I WENT OUT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO VIEW THIS SITE. 
          IT IS A GREAT PROJECT. THE KEY.TO REMEMBER HERE IS THAT IF WE DO THIS OR NOT THE PROJECT IS STILL GOING. 
          THE DECISION TODAY WAS WILL IT BE ON SEWER OR SEPTIC TANK THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS IS PARAMOUNT AND HE'S GOING TO EVENTUALLY PAY TAXES ONE DAY. WITH THAT BEING SAID THIS IS THE 
          RIGHT CALL. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS. 
          >> I WILL VOTE FOR THIS BUT LET'S BE CLEAR WHAT IT IS. 
          IT IS A MOBILE HOME PARK. IT IS SUBSTANDARD WITH WHAT IS THERE NOW. THE OWNER TENDS TO PUT IN TEN MOBILE HOMES. IT IS A NONCONFORMING IT WOULD BE FOUR UNITS . IT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          BUT IT IS A MOBILE HOME PARK. AND IT IS NONCONFORMING USE IN 
          THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. >> THANK YOU SIR. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I SEE NONE. 
          BOTTOM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE . 
          [7.5 (Quasi-judicial) PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL - "ISLAND VIEW" SUBDIVISION]
          (ROLL CALL). >> IT PASSES 5-0 . ITEM 7.5 THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR THE ISLAND 
          VIEW SUBDIVISION . >> THIS IS A QUAD SITE JUDICIAL. 
          I WILL BE VERY BRIEF. THE CITY COMMISSION, YOU ARE SITTING OUT THERE AS JUDGES AND WITH THESE QUASI- JUDICIAL MATTERS THE CITY IS A PARTY. AND THE APPLICANT IS A PARTY. 
          SO THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO PROJECT ON THE SCREEN FOR THE PLAT? THIS IS FOR 12 HOMESITES . WE CAN TRY TO GET SOMETHING UP THERE IF YOU NEED IT . YOU HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE. 
          THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE HAD AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT. 
          THAT CAME A FEW MONTHS AGO. THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND AGAIN IT IS PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL BUT FIRST WE WILL, ON BEHALF OF STAFF, I'M LETTING YOU KNOW THE EVIDENCE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE AGENDA PACKET WHICH INCLUDES DOCUMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT. THAT IS EVIDENCE THAT IS ON RECORD. IT IS PART OF THE AGENDA. 
          IS THE APPLICANT HERE? SO THE CITY STAFF HAVE ANY COMMENTS? OKAY . ANYBODY THAT WISHES, THE QUAD SITE JUDICIAL HEARING, YOUR PRESENTATION IS IN FRONT OF YOU 
          WITH THE AGENDA ITEM . >> WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT TO THE AMOUNT OF TIME THE PUBLIC GETS TO SPEAK. GIVEN THE ONE WHO DOESN'T, IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT AND SUBMITTING TESTIMONY TO THE RECORD YOU NEED TO TAKE AN OLD VIDEO OF THE PARTIES, WHICH IS TO CALL A WITNESS THEY CAN . YOU WILL VOTE TONIGHT . THIS IS THE 
          [01:05:21]
ONLY TIME YOU WILL SEE THIS RESOLUTION . WE CONDUCT A QUARTZSITE JUDICIAL HEARING, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS . 
          >> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS . ALSO, WE -- IF ANYONE WANTS TO GIVE TESTIMONY, PLEASE RISE AND PLEASE ADMINISTER THE OATH. 
          >> HANG ON ONE SECOND PERIOD WE HAVE TO GET THE PHONE SITUATION 
          . >> OKAY . THE HEARING IS NOW OPEN . PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD . 
          >> 20 SOUTH FOURTH STREET . WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS 
          YOU MAY HAVE. >> MY QUESTION WAS I DO WANT TO SEE THE PLOT. I DO NOT SEE IT . 
          >> IS THIS THEY WENT UPON? >> IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUBDIVISION IS THERE A RAVINE OR IS IT JUST LOW-LEVEL? 
          >> THE INTENT WAS TO SAVE AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN AND THIS 
          WILL STAY CLOSE TO GREAT. >> THAT IS ALL THE QUESTIONS I 
          HAVE . THANK YOU. >> YOU ARE ALREADY APPROVED FOR 
          12 UNITS AT THIS TIME. >> THE HEARING IS CLOSED. 
          DISCUSSION. >> THE PLOT MEETS ALL REQUIREMENTS AND THERE IS NO LEGAL DEFENSE, NO RECORD THAT IT DOESN'T MEET THE REGULATIONS . I WANT TO POINT OUT, THIS IS ANOTHER DIVISION THAT ENHANCES THE QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          >> GENTLEMEN, WE ARE VOTING ON THIS. 
          IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? VICE MAYOR. 
          >> WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT RELOCATING, SAVE THE TREES, -- 
          >> THIS IS LEAVING THE EXISTING GRADE AND IN DOING THAT ANY 
          OTHER COMMENTS? >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 
          >> MENTAL MOTION AND A SECOND. (ROLL CALL). 
          [Items 7.6 - 7.8]
          [01:10:10]
          >> ITEM 7.6 . DO WE NEED A BREAK WE ARE GOOD. 
          OKAY. ITEM .6 IMPACT THE WITHHOLDING. 
          NASSAU HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. >> AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION 7.6, SEVEN AND EIGHT ARE THE EXACT SAME ITEMS, NASSAU HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HAS APPLIED TO THE CITY TO WITHHOLD OR SUSPEND THE IMPACT FEES NOT WATER AND SEWER BUT THE OTHERS WHICH INCLUDE POLICE FIRE FACILITIES AND PARKS AND RECREATION . THE AMOUNT THAT IS WITHHELD IS THERE FOR YOU, $4,623 . AND 84 CENTS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND WAS BUILT BY HABITAT FOR HUMANITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE HAVE $4,400 FOR THE HOME LOCATED AT 424 VERNON STREET CONSTRUCTED BY HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. LESLIE $4,500 AND 20 CENTS FOR THE HOME CONSTRUCTED AT 428 FERNANDINA STREET. 
          ON BEHALF OF HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, THEY RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL . THE CITY HAS A WITHHOLDING IMPACT FEE POLICY AND AN ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO APPLY FOR THE CITY AND A FORMULA IS APPLIED BASED ON THE FEES AND THE TYPE OF STRUCTURE AND WHO THE HOMES ARE SOLD TO . THESE ARE ALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> IM WILLING TO CONSIDER 76, 77 AND 78 AS ONE . WE HAVE A SECOND I RECOMMEND APPROVAL WHO IS 
          SECOND IT. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THREE 
          . >> ( INDISCERNIBLE ). 
          >> THANK YOU . >> DID YOU DO RESEARCH AS FAR AS IF THEY WERE THIS IS NOT GETTING ANY CHEAPER. 
          THE IMPACT IS NOT GETTING ANY HUFF . SINCE YOU HAVE HAS, IMPACT FEES, IN THIS CASE, OUR IMPACTS TO PARK AND RECREATION SYSTEM. AND OF COURSE, THE USE OF PUBLIC FACILITIES . THE CITY IS ALREADY BEHIND THE FACILITIES PART . 
          PART AND WRECKED WE KNOW . POLICE AND FIRE DOING OKAY BUT THEY STILL HAVE ROOM TO GROW. IMPACT FEES ARE CHARGED FOR THOSE THAT ARE DEVELOPING OR BUILDING NEW THINGS TO HELP US, TO HAVE ACCESS TO PUBLIC FACILITIES . THAT IS WHAT THE IMPACT FEES OUR FIRST . THESE ARE AGAIN NOT IMPACT FEES . THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE CHARGED . AND HOW HABITAT FOR COMMUNITY RESTRICTED THE SALE OF PROPERTY SO THAT SOMEONE WHO QUALIFIES FOR THEIR PROGRAM AND MOVES INTO THE HOME AND WE WAVE THE IMPACT FEES, WHAT ARE THE RESTRICTIONS FROM TURNING AROUND AND SELLING IT AND MAKING A PROFIT . HABITAT FOR HUMANITY SHARED WITH ME, THEY HOLD THE MORTGAGE. HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, IS THE APPLICANT HERE . AND IF THEY QUALIFY THE PROPERTY ITSELF, 
          [01:15:13]
ONCE THE HOME IS BUILT THERE IS AN APPRAISAL DONE . HABITAT FOR HUMANITY DID WITH THE APPLICANT DETERMINES IF THEY CAN PAY THE MARKET VALUE . THERE'S NO MORTGAGE PUT ON THE PROPERTY AND IT IS HELD BY NASSAU HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. 
          IF THEY CANNOT PAY THE MARKET VALUE AT THAT TIME THERE IS A SECOND MORTGAGE BUT PAYS FOR OTHERS A CALCULATION OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT THE HOMEOWNER CAN AFFORD TO PIN THE MARKET VALUE. THAT BECOMES THE SECOND MORTGAGE . THERE IS A SHARED EQUITY AGREEMENT . SO FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS THE HOMEOWNER SELLS THE PROPERTY THIN HABITAT FOR HUMANITY GETS ONE 100% OF THE EQUITY GAIN FROM THE SALE . IN EVERY FIVE YEARS AFTER 20% GOES TO THE HOMEOWNER. 
          YEAR SIX THE PROPERTY IS SOLD IN THE HOMEOWNER GETS 20% . 
          >> THESE ARE THE RESTRICTIONS BESIDES QUALIFIED THEY ONLY GET 
          A PORTION OF THE EQUITY . >> THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, AND IT STRUCTURED BUT SOMEONE IS PAYING THE TAXES . 
          >> THE HOMEOWNER PAYS THAT . THIS IS ONLY TO GET THE HOMEOWNER INTO THE HOUSE . AND IT IS THEIR HOME AND THEY HAVE TO PAY THE TAXES, AND THE INSURANCE . 
          >> THANK YOU . >> 
          >> THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING THIS IS PART OF ( INDISCERNIBLE ) WHICH WAS O BRING THE COST DOWN IS BENEFICIAL. ANYTHING TO GET AFFORDABLE 
          MORTGAGES . >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE. MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE . (ROLL CALL) CAFÉ PATH 5-0. 
          [7.9 CGC, INC. - CHANGE ORDER #3 ]
ITEM 7.9 CGC, INC CHANGE ORDER NUMBER THREE. 
          >> THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE FOR TWO COMPONENTS EACH $1,165,000. 
          ONE IS FOR A CURVE EXITING FROM ASH TO CENTER STREET AND CENTER STREET TO ALACHUA. ON THE EAST SIDE . THE INTENT OF THE CURB IS TO PREVENT VEHICLE TRAFFIC. 
          IT IS A HIGH CURB 8 INCHES TALL, SO CARS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GO ON TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS FROM FRONT TREE. 
          THE OTHER COMPONENT IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A LOADING ZONE APPROXIMATELY FROM BERTHA FUEL TANKS ARE BECAUSE OF THE CURB AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THIS TRAVEL LANE AND LOADING ZONE WILL PROVIDE A SEGREGATED FUEL TALK AND DELIVERIES TO OTHER DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS . SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL . 
          >> A MOTION IN THE SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION. 
          >> MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. 
          >> >> (ROLL CALL) . 
          [7.10 BLACKWATER CONSTRUCTION SERVICES - CHANGE ORDER #5]
          >> AND 7.1 0 BLACKWATER CONSTRUCTION SERVICES CHANGE 
          [01:20:02]
          ORDER NUMBER FIVE . >> THANK YOU THIS IS RELATED TO THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW FIRE STATION AT THE AIRPORT . THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS DID REQUIRE THE EXTENSION RELATED TO THE FIELD. AS WITH MANY PROJECTS ONCE YOU START DIGGING UP DIRT . IT IS MORE THAT YOU DID NOT REALIZE. 
          THIS IS TO ADD ADDITIONAL CIRCUITRY AND CABLE IN THE 
          AMOUNT OF $8,900 . >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL . 
          >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION . PLEASE CALL THE 
          VOTE. >> OKAY. 
          (ROLL CALL). >> 7.1 ONE, BLACKWATER CHANGE 
          [7.11 BLACKWATER CONSTRUCTION SERVICES - CHANGE ORDER #6]
ORDER NUMBER SIX. THIS IS RELATED TO ENGINEERING COSTS WHERE THERE IS AN ATTACHMENT INDICATING STANDARD PRACTICES . THIS ESTIMATES THE ANTICIPATING BUILDING AND ONCE IT STARTS THE LOAD IS REVIEWED AND IT TURNS OUT BOTH PACE HAD TO BE SCRAPPED TO MEET THE LOWER LEVEL OF THE BUILDING . THIS IS A CHANGE ORDER IN THE AMOUNT OF APPROXIMATELY 30,000 DOLLARS TO 
          REDO THE FOUNDATION . >> DROP A MOTION? 
          >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> A MOTION AT THE SECOND PICK THE OBVIOUS QUESTION IS WITH A LOOK AT THE PLANS, THEY DID NOT 
          REALIZE IT? >> WITH THIS KIND OF 
          CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN -- >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME . 
          >> ( INDISCERNIBLE ) THE ENGINEER ESTIMATES WHAT THE LOADS ARE BASED ON THE BUILDING FRAME . THEY PUT IT UP FOR BID. 
          THEM THERE ESTIMATION BUT THE CONTRACTOR GETS TO PICK WHO IT IS . THIS IS THE TYPE OF MATERIAL THEY USE AS FAR AS THE SIZE AND THE THICKNESS. AND THEN THEY GENERATE THE -- IF THEY ARE GREATER WE COME BACK AND REDESIGNED THE FOUNDATIONS, SO THEY HOLD THAT LOAD. WE CANNOT TELL THEM WHICH MANUFACTURED TO USE . 99% OF THE TIME, THEY WILL FOLLOW THIS TOO. 
          WE ALWAYS HAVE AN INCREASE . THESE WERE NOT BIG BUT WE HAD BIG FOUNDATIONS TO BEGIN WITH. IT WAS LACOSTE INCREASED TO 
          ACCOMMODATE THE LOADS . >> IT JUST SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT YOU WOULD DESIGNATE YOU WILL PLACE THE 
          LOAD WHEN YOU PLACE THE BID. >> THE CONTRACTOR TO TELL US WHO THEIR MANUFACTURER WAS . WE CAN'T DIRECT WHO THE CONTRACTORS 
          WILL BE. >> UNDERSTAND AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT SOUNDS LIKE A FLAW . WILBUR DECIDE THIS BUILDING AND YOU ARE TELLING ME WE CAN'T PUT IN OUR 
          OWN. >> WHICH YOU DO THAT, WHICH YOU SPECIFY WHO YOU ARE GOING TO USE AS A SUBCONTRACTOR . 
          >> CORRECT. THERE ARE 15 DIFFERENT BUILDINGS WE COULD GET. AT LEAST. 
          MAY BE MORE. >> WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THEIR PRICES . AND WE ARE RELIED ON THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WE ARE 
          STUCK WITH THOSE SUBS . >> THIS IS AN ENGINEERING 
          PROBLEM. >> IT IS A CONSTRUCTION PROBLEM BUT JUST LIKE IF YOU DO THIS, THE CONCRETE PLANT DESIGNS THIS. 
          THE ENGINEER IT DOESN'T DO THAT . HE DOES NOT HAVE ALL OF THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO ACCOMMODATE EVERY PRESTRESS OR IN THAT AREA APPEAR I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT. 
          [01:25:06]
IF YOU BOUGHT AN HAV UNIT YOU WILL NOT TELL WHOEVER IS DOING 
          THAT WHAT COMPONENTS TO USE . >> BUT WHAT I AM HEARING IS, AND MY POINT TO YOU, IF YOU PICK THREE OF THESE BUILDINGS, REMODELS, THIS IS THE LIGHTEST AND THIS IS THE MEDIUM, YOU MAY 
          WANT TO -- >> 
          >> SPEAKER2: THE MODEL THAT THEY RUN IN THE DESIGN PHASE . THEY , 
          ALL OF THE DIFFERENT LOADS . >> THEN THE CONTRACTOR GOES TO A SUBCONTRACTOR AND HE HAS A DIFFERENT ONE . THEY LOOK AT THE WAY THEY DESIGN IT, IT IS A FLAW, THIS SHOULD BE AN 
          IMPROVEMENT FOR NEXT TIME . >> -- THE CITY WOULD BUY THE BUILDING OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACTOR. 
          FIGURE THAT OUT AND GIVE IT TO THE ENGINEER. 
          YOU WOULD HAVE TO PREPURCHASE THAT BUILDING . THAT IS THE ONLY 
          TIME I HAVE SEEN A . >> WE KNOW THESE THINGS WILL HAPPEN . WE DO HAVE A CONTINGENCY . 
          >> WE KNOW THE NUMBERS. WE KNOW THE COMPLEXITY . 
          >> YOU TRY TO OVERDESIGNED. BUT THESE FOUNDATIONS ARE 12 BY 
          12. >> WE KNOW THESE THINGS WILL 
          HAPPEN . >> WE HAVE A CONTINGENCY IN PLACE . WE KNEW AT THE BEGINNING THIS WOULD HAPPEN . 
          >> IS NOT A SURPRISE . >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION? 
          >> WE DO HAVE A MOTION. >> I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY . 
          >> WHEN YOU SUBMIT YOUR BID, YOU KNOW YOURS IS AT YOUR BID IS PLACED BASED ON THE COST OF WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD BE AND THEY WOULD KNOW IF THE FOUNDATION WILL SUPPORT IT OR NOT. 
          LET ME FINISH MY POINT. WHEN WE ACCEPT A BID, THAT IS BASED UPON ALL OF THE SUBS ESTIMATE FOR THE PROJECT . IM NOT GOING TO BE THIS TO DEATH EITHER, BUT GOING FORWARD I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO FIRE STATIONS WHY THIS IS COSTING US WHEN WE. 
          >> THE GOOD -- THEY BASE THIS ON ONCE HE GETS THE JOB HE GETS THE 
          NUMBERS . >> THIS SEEMS TO BE ON BLACKWATER NOT THE CITY . BUT WE COULD DEBATE THIS ALL EVENING . 
          TO THE COMMISSIONERS POINTLESS CALL THE VOTE. 
          >> (ROLL CALL) IT PASSES 5-0. 
          [7.12 BUDGET AMENDMENT - WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT]
          BUDGET AMENDMENT WASTEWATER PART >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR THIS IS TO INCREASE COST AND SERVICES $37,000 FROM THE WASTEWATER UTILITIES ELECTRIC ACCOUNT TO THE ELECTRIC ACCOUNT FROM THE WASTEWATER PROFESSIONAL ACCOUNT . 
          >> I HAVE OF MOTION AND THE SECOND, MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. (ROLL CALL). 
          >> IT PASSES 5-0. WE ARE ON ORDINANCES A .1. 
          FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT. >> CAN I ASK FOR RECESS AT THIS 
          POINT? >> YES . WE WILL RECESS UNTIL 
          [01:30:05]
          8:05 P.M. >> PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY 
          [8.1 (Legislative) FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT - 1060 JEAN LAFITTE BLVD]
          [01:37:25]
AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS LEGISLATIVE SO YOU WILL 
          PHOTON THIS. >> MOVED TO APPROVE. 
          >> I HAVE A AND A SECOND, MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. 
          >> >> THE MOTION PASSES 5-0. 
          [8.2 (Quasi-judicial) ZONING MAP CHANGE - 1060 JEAN LAFITTE BLVD]
          A .2 IS BECAUSE I JUDICIAL. >> AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION ASSIGNING THE ZONING CATEGORY OF CONSERVATION FOR 3.E BOULEVARD PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE . THIS IS BECAUSE I JUDICIAL YOU WILL VOTE AT SECOND READING . AND QUICKLY, THESE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR THE CITY . YOU WILL ASK QUESTIONS AND PLEASE RELY ON THE STAFF REPORT AND APPLICATION MATERIALS IN YOUR PACKET . AS THE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND BASED UPON THAT, WE EXPECT TO HAVE THIS AGAIN IN A MONTH. 
          >> IS THERE A PUBLIC HEARING? >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING . ANYONE AMONGST THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER. I SEE NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE 
          [8.3 (Legislative) FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGE- MURPHY ACT LANDS]
          PUBLIC HEARING . >> ITEM 8.3 WHICH IS 
          LEGISLATIVE. >> IT IS. 
          ORDINANCE 2022 -- 27. AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ASSIGNING THE FUTURE LAND USE OF CONSERVATION FOR POINT TO 4 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT SOUTH SEVENTH STREET AND VACATED SOUTH SIXTH STREET AND AND TENSION A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          [01:40:07]
PRICE MAKER AND COMMISSIONER. ANY DISCUSSION . THE MOTION 
          [8.4 (Quasi-judicial) ZONING MAP CHANGE - MURPHY ACT LANDS -]
PASSES FIVE -- 5-0. A .4 IS BECAUSE I JUDICIAL FOR 
          THE SAME. >> THIS IS VACATED SOUTH SIXTH STREET. AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS -- I AM SORRY ABOUT 
          THAT. >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING . WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS 
          MATTER, PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> THERE IS A MISTAKE IN THE AGENDA. I WILL READ IT WON MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE IT IS CORRECT. ORDINANCE 2022 -- BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO FUTURE LAND USE MAPS. I ALREADY READ THE FEATURE -- 
          FUTURE LAND USE. >> YOU READ 22 -- 27 . THIS IS 2022 -- 28 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FOR THE MAP CATEGORY, BUT IT IS A ZONING CATEGORY OF CONSERVATION FOR 2.T SOUTH SEVENTH STREET AND VACATED SOUTH SIX STREET PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. 
          >> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 
          >> JUDY SOUTH SEVENTH STREET, FERNANDINA. 
          I BELIEVE THOSE BOTH SHOULD STAY -- SHOULD GO CONSERVATION LAND. 
          THERE'S NOT MUCH BACK THERE ANYWAY. 
          IF THE TREES HAPPEN TO GO, WE WILL SEE THE CITY AND THE RAILROAD. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU MA'AM. AND DID YOU FILL OUT A SPEAKERS FORM? WOULD YOU DO THAT FOR THE CITY CLERK, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED . THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> ALL RIGHT, IT IS BECAUSE I JUDICIAL SO WE ARE NOT VOTING. 
          >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> ITEM 8.5 COMMISSIONERS PULLED 
          [9.1 MASTER FEE SCHEDULE]
FROM THE AGENDA. ITEM NINE. 
          ORDINANCE SECOND READING THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE. 
          I HAVE ONE SPEAKER, AND I SEE ANOTHER SPEAKER IN THE AUDIENCE. 
          IF YOU WOULD DO THE SAME I AM ASSUMING YOU WOULD LIKE TO 
          SPEAK, OR NOT . >> I DON'T NEED TO SPEAK. 
          SO -- >> ORDINANCE 2022-20 FOR ESTABLISHING AND AMENDING FEES FOR THE AIRPORT, BUILDING, BUSINESS CODE ENFORCEMENT, CEMETERY, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, FIRE, GOLF COURSE, MARINA, PARKS AND RECREATION, PLANNING, POLICE, SANITATION, STORMWATER, STREETS, WASTEWATER, WATER AND IMPACT FEES EXCLUDING WATER AND SEWER IMPACT FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021/2022 PROVIDED FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING . >> ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. I DO HAVE A REQUESTS. 
          WILL YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD. AS SHE DOES HAVE A HANDOUT. 
          DUDE YOU WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE THAT? 
          >> >> AND NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE 
          RECORD . >> NONCOMMON TOOL FOR LAWRENCE LANE, FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA . 
          >> AND MA'AM, DON'T CHARGE HER TIME BECAUSE I WILL ADVISE HER . 
          [01:45:04]
          >> WHAT FEES ARE WE ADDRESSING? >> WE ARE MAINLY ADDRESSING 
          PUBLIC SAFETY . >> PUBLIC SAFETY, THANK YOU . 
          PLEASE CONTINUE . >> GOOD EVENING, YOU KNOW ME AS THE TREASURE OF THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL COMMITTEE WHICH IS WHY I AM HERE TONIGHT. IT IS THE LARGEST EVENT IN THE CITY . WE PUT IT ON IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY . WE ALSO HAVE A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND PART OF THE CITY CHARTER. WE UNDERSTAND THE PRICE HAVE INCREASED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP . BUT THESE PROPOSED INCREASES FOR POLICE AND FIRE ARE JUST WRONG . IF YOU DID NOT REALIZE IT, WE ACTUALLY PAY FOR ARMED SECURITY PERSONNEL IN ADDITION TO THE FERNANDINA POLICE OFFICERS. MOST OF YOU KNOW, I AM AN ACCOUNTANT BY TRAITS LET'S TALK NUMBERS. 
          ON THE HANDOUT YOU WILL SEE THE COMPARISON ACROSS FROM 2019 LAST YEAR END THIS YEAR'S FESTIVAL ALONG WITH THE 2023 PROJECTIONS, IF THIS ORDINANCE GETS APPROVED . WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN ANY 37% INCREASE FOR POLICE BETWEEN 2019 AND 2022. 
          THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WENT UP BY 19% . THE OVERALL COST OF INCREASE FOR 2023 WOULD GO UP BY $10,606. 
          THAT IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GOING UP 43% AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COSTS GOING UP 61% . THAT IS VERY ALARMING TO ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN INFLATION IS AT 8.3% . YOU MAY ASK, JUST INCREASE YOUR OUTSIDE SECURITY AND YOU WILL SAVE MONEY . WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING WE ARE MANDATED BY THE POLICE TO USE AN X NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS DURING THE FESTIVAL WHICH PUTS US BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD SPOT . PLEASE REALIZE THE INCREASES ARE NOT ONLY GOING TO HURT THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL BUT THE SMALLER EVENTS HELD WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          WHAT ABOUT CITY SPONSORED EVENTS. 
          WILL THEY BE CHARGE THE SAME FEE SCHEDULE, PROBABLY NOT . SO I ASK YOU, PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS DRASTIC INCREASE, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS OF PUBLIC SAFETY, THANK YOU . 
          >> THANK YOU MA'AM . >> WE HAVE BOTH CHIEFS HERE FOR THE CITY MANAGER . WILL YOU WALK US THROUGH THESE INCREASES? 
          >> SURE, AND JUST SO IT GOES ON THE RECORD I HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS TO THE FEE SCHEDULE. BEFORE A MOTION IS MADE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TO OTHER AMENDMENTS . BUT THE CHALLENGE FOR THIS IS THE AVAILABILITY OF POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS . I KNOW IN THE PAST, CHIEF I THINK IT WAS MANDATED AND NOW IT IS VOLUNTEERS. MOUNT BECAUSE OF ISLAND LIVING OFFICERS, NOT AS MANY LIVE ON THE ISLAND SO THEY LIVE SIGNIFICANTLY FURTHER AWAY AND TO GET THEM TO VOLUNTEER, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO SUSTAIN THE SAME AMOUNT OF OFFICERS TO VOLUNTEER . IT IS THE SAME THING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          YOU CAN'T GET PEOPLE, WHAT WE WERE CHARGING BEFORE THERE WAS NO INTEREST IN VOLUNTEERS BUT WHEN WE STARTED MANDATING A LOT OF -- IT TRIGGERED COLLECTIVE-BARGAINING AGREEMENTS . THAT IS WHY THE COSTS ARE GOING UP . THE COST OF THE OFFICERS VOLUNTEERING AT THE EARLIER COST WE WERE NOT GETTING 
          THE SUPPORT. >> ARE WE INCREASING THE HOURLY RATE IN ORDER TO GET EQUAL? OR ARE WE INCURRING OVERTIME FOR 
          ACCOMMODATIONS OF THE TWO? >> I BELIEVE THIS IS BEING PAID DIRECTLY -- IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH THE CITY PAYROLL PROCESS . IT'S PAID TO THE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS FROM THE SHRIMP FEST. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS AND IT IS PAID DIRECTLY . TO CONTINUE, THESE FEES ARE APPLIED 
          TO THEIR SPECIAL EVENTS . >> DID YOU WALK THE SHRIMP FEST 
          PEOPLE THROUGH THAT? >> WE MISSED EACH OTHER WITH 
          PHONE CALLS BACK AND FORTH . >> COMMISSIONER BEAN. 
          A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION . THIS NUMBER IS IT BASED OFF WHAT WE THINK WILL GET THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE? 
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HOW DID WE COME TO THIS PARTICULAR NUMBER? 
          >> THESE NUMBERS WERE PROVIDED BY THE CHIEF AND BASED UPON WHAT THEY BELIEVE THE NUMBER WAS TO ATTRACT A SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS TO WORK THE FESTIVAL . 
          >> THE FOLLOW UP IS THAT, YOU SAY WE PAID DIRECT FOR THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL TO THE POLICE AND FIRE, IS THAT HOW WE DO ALL PUBLIC EVENTS. IF THEY COME OUT TO ANY PUBLIC EVENT, WE PAID DIRECT TO THEM AS WELL? -- THAT IS DIRECT . THEY ARE PAID DIRECTLY AS THEY GO THROUGH 
          CITY PAYROLL . >> SO THEN IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE ABOUT IF WE ARE CONTRACTUALLY MANDATING THE POLICE . MAYBE THAT IS AN ISSUE THERE . MAKE SURE THE SHRIMP 
          FAMILY . >> THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION WOULD BE WHY DO WE MANDATE THAT THEY MUST USE CITY, POLICE AND FIRE 
          >> THEY KNOW THE AREA . I'M NOT SAYING THEY COULD NOT WORK AND DO THE SAME, MAYBE THERE IS A WAY TO ADJUST AND PULL BACK THE 
          NUMBERS LIKE A HYBRID . >> I DON'T KNOW . IT IS JUST AN 
          IDEA . >> DID YOU WANT TO OFFER ANY 
          COMMENTS? >> WHERE WE HAVE FOUND OURSELVES, WE LOVE WORKING WITH THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL. 
          WHERE WE HAVE FOUND OURSELVES IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST EVENTS THAT OCCUR IN THE CITY . IT REQUIRES MORE PERSONNEL, AND I AM ONLY GOING TO SPEAK FOR ALL YOUR. 
          I WON'T SPEAK FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT . IT REQUIRES MORE PERSONNEL THAN ANY OTHER EVENT THE ISSUE WE ARE RUNNING INTO AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID, WE ARE FINDING IT HARDER AND HARDER TO GET PERSONNEL TO COME IN. WE FIND OURSELVES BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD SPOT . WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THIS PROTECTION BECAUSE PEOPLE EXPECT TO COME TO THESE EVENTS AND BE SAFE . THE OTHER SIDE TO THIS IS, WE CAN INCREASE OUR OVERTIME BUDGET, AND THE CITY CAN PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO EVENTS BASED OFF OF AN OVERTIME RATE . WITH THAT BEING SAID, NOT ONLY IS THAT MORE MONEY, IT IS MORE PENSION FUND AND BENEFITS THAT OUR EMPLOYEES RECEIVE . SO, MY GOAL IN THIS IS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT SAFE EVENTS WITHIN THE CITY, BUT ALSO TO DO THAT WITH THE PROPER NUMBER OF PERSONNEL . IF IT GETS TO THE POINT THAT I HAVE TO MANDATE PEOPLE TO WORK THESE EVENTS, WE WILL BE STANDING HERE IN THE FUTURE FACING THE FIVE OF YOU SAYING WE NEED MORE MONEY TO 
          COVER OUR SALARIES . >> THANK YOU CHIEF . 
          >> WE HAVE DEALT WITH THIS ISSUE FOR YEARS . SEVERAL YEARS AGO I RECOMMENDED THAT WE DO A HYBRID AND WE TALK TO THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL ABOUT ARMED SECURITY IN CERTAIN AREAS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY SERVE ALCOHOL. WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB DOING THIS KIND OF ENFORCEMENT USING OFFICERS WITH THEIR ARRESTS POWER AND ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE OUR ISSUES AND PROBLEMS 
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ARE. AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO FORCE OFFICERS BECAUSE WE WILL BE PAYING THEM A LOT OF OVERTIME . WE ARE TRYING TO FIND THE SWEET SPOT WHERE WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF SECURITY GUARDS THE RIGHT NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS AND VOLUNTEER POLICE OFFICERS . WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE ON OVERTIME AS IT TURNS OUT . IT IS A DIFFICULT THING TO JUDGE . IF WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS THERE TO HANDLE IT YOU WOULD HAVE QUESTINS ABOUT THAT 
          . >> I KNOW YOU HAVE A QUESTION . 
          WE HAVE THREE OTHER COMMISSIONER LIGHTS . 
          >> MY QUESTION IS, AND I AM NOT DEGRADING THE POLICE . I THINK IF WE HAD -- I'M TAKING IN THE WHOLE THING. 
          THE QUESTIONS FOR YOU . YOU WOULD INCUR OVERTIME . BASICALLY YOU ARE AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY YOU ARE TRAINED FOR SITUATIONS HOW MUCH $30 PER HOUR, HOW MANY DO YOU TYPICALLY RUN FOR A 
          SHRIMP FESTIVAL? >> THIS PAST YEAR WE HAD FOUR CARDS THAT WE RAN PLUS THE STAFF THAT MAN'S THE COMMAND POST . WE DON'T EVEN CHARGE FOR THAT STAFFING, THE DEPUTY CHIEFS ARE 
          IN THE -- >> WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, THEY CAN STILL KEEP THE MAIN FORCE . THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE MORE EMPATHETIC . SOMEONE DEALING WITH ALL TYPES OF HEALTH CONDITIONS . THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS . 
          >> IT WOULD SEEM TO ME IF THEY ARE MANDATING WE SHOULD MANDATE 
          THAT THEY WERE. >> THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE . WE DID EVERYTHING TO MAKE IT A VIABLE OPERATION . WE MAKE IT A HYBRID FORCE IN MANY WAYS . THEY ARE UNPAID. 
          THIS IS PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THAT . WE HAVE OFFICERS COMING HERE AND PATROLLING WITH OUR PEOPLE . 
          >> WHEN YOU MANDATE AND THEN VOLUNTEER IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD 
          . >> 
          >> WHATEVER THE COST IS . PUT IT IN THE BUDGET . 
          >> DARL REALLY RATE THAT THEY DID THIS . IN ONE YEAR THAT IS A 
          TOUGH THING TO SIGN . >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE . WE HAVE MANAGEMENT THAT IS PAYING SALARY THAT IS NOT PAID 
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          BY THE COMMITTEE AND ALL,. >> WE LOOKED AT THIS AND WHAT WE WERE PAYING THE PERSONNEL TO COME TO VOLUNTEER, TO WORK THE EVENT . AND TWO VICE MAYOR KREGER, PEOPLE GET TO VOLUNTEER, SO THEY MAY BE MANDATED BUT SET UP MANDATORY OVERTIME TO THESE PEOPLE, WE TRIED TO GIVE THEM A BREAK BECAUSE THE SAME PERSONNEL FOR FIRE, ARE GOING TO BE WE TRY TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY, THOSE WHO DO IT AND THOSE WHO WANT TO STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM FERNANDINA BEACH, THEY GET TO. SO WE LOOKED AT WHAT IT COSTS FOR ONE OF OUR PERSONNEL THERE REALLY NOT MAKING ANYTHING . IF WE LOOKED AT THE FACTORS, AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO STEER AWAY FROM CREATING MORE OVERTIME FOR EVENTS . THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL . IT IS DIRECTED AT EVENTS TO KEEP TAXPAYERS FROM HAVING TO FUND THESE EVENTS WITH PERSONNEL EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES . 
          >> MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, THIS VOLUNTEER RATE BEING PAID, THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN THE OVERTIME RATE? 
          >> IT DEPENDS ON THE PERSONNEL. BY THE TIME YOU FIGURE AND A SALARY AND I DO NOT HAVE THOSE SON COULD BE LESS AND SOME COULD 
          BE MORE . >> YOU TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY 
          MOUTH . >> JUST COMING BACK TO THE FUNDAMENTAL THING . IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM THE CITY TAXPAYERS . OBVIOUSLY IF YOU ARE GOING TO MANDATE IT, WILL IT COME FROM INDIVIDUAL -- WE TALK OF FEES, HOW OTHER SOURCES OF INCOME . ALL OF THESE THINGS . BUT WHEN THE PADDLE HITS THE MODEL, IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY . AND TO GET PEOPLE TO WORK 
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NORMALLY YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE. THAT HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS . PEOPLE USED TO WORK FOR LESS BUT THAT IS NO LONGER TRUE. TO GET PEOPLE TO WORK, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WORKING A LOT OF HOURS TO BEGIN WITH AND THEN TO ASK THEM TO WORK MORE, THE LESS -- WE HAVE TROUBLE RETAINING THEM. WHEN YOU MANDATE THE OVERTIME . 
          TO KEEP A WORKFORCE HERE, YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO PASS THE COST ON WHERE YOU WILL PAY LESS MONEY OR WILL YOU PASS IT ON TO THE USER . IS IT IDEAL . 
          >> COMMISSIONER, HAVE A QUESTION COULD YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU . HOW MUCH MONEY HAS THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL MADE LAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE AND THE YEAR BEFORE? WE ARE LOOKING AT EXPENSIVE BUT NOT THE INCOME . CAN YOU TELL ME THE INCOME FOR 2021, OBVIOUSLY HE GAVE 20. 
          >> A BALLPARK, I THINK IN 2019, THE LIGHT HUXLEY 15-$20,000 . AT THE ISSUES EVENT WE WERE BLESSED TO MAKE $60,000 . 
          >> IN MY OPINION, WE SHOULD KEEP THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPLIED OUR NUMBERS AND SUBSIDIZE THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL, THE DIFFERENCE . THAT IS MY THOUGHT PROCESS . INSTEAD OF MAKING AN INCREASE OF $10,000 MAYBE $600 . AND WE KEEP EVERYONE STOP THE WAY IT IS . 
          >> CAN I ADDRESS A COUPLE OF COMMENTS . WE PAID THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DIRECTLY FOR TEN YEARS OR LONGER . THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ONLY BEEN ABOUT FIVE YEARS OR SIX YEARS . THE CITY WOULD THEN WE DID HAVE A FLAT BILL FROM THE CITY FOR THOSE SUPERVISORS AND SOME OF THE OTHER OFFICERS . TO LET YOU KNOW WE WERE PAYING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL $35 PER HOUR . THAT IS WHY THEIR JOB IS SO LARGE . AND IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT $38 AN HOUR AND THEIR SUPERVISORS AND HIGHER PERSONNEL $48 PER HOUR . IT WOULD GO UP TO $55 AN HOUR AND $65 AN HOUR . 
          THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL IS A THREE DAY . WE WILL BE CHARGED THE HIGHER DEPARTMENT ABOUT OPPOSED TO THE PATROL OFFICER FOR A SINGLE DAY EVENT, LESS THAN TEN HOURS AND $40 PER HOUR . SEEK THERE IS A DISPARATE SERIES OF $40 AN HOUR, AND MORE THAN ONE DAY EVENT FOR THE SAME OFFICER FOR THE SAME HOURS . 
          THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT, AND YOU CAN DECIDE. 
          MAYBE IT CAN FALL UNDER THE LOWER RATE . 
          >> IT SEEMS WE ARE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE AND WE WILL BE HERE ALL NIGHT . I AM NOT, AS CHAIR OF THIS BODY, I WILL NOT SEEDIER 
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NEGOTIATE . WE HAVE TWO POLICE CHIEFS . THEY HAVE TOLD US THE COST. THIS IS A FOR-PROFIT ENTERPRISE . IM NOT WILLING TO PUT A FOR-PROFIT ENTERPRISE, $60,000. 
          >> WE ARE NOT A FOR-PROFIT. WE USE PART OF IT TO KEEP OUR FUND BECAUSE IF WE DO HAVE A RAINY DAY EVENT, WE END UP HAVING TO PAY OUT FOR ALL OF THOSE EXPENSES . THE OTHER AMOUNT, WE GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          IN 2019, WE GAPED BACK OVER $20,000 TO LOCAL NONPROFITS WHO COULD NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL . 
          >> OKAY THANK YOU MAN . DO YOU PLACE THIS ON THE BACKS OF THE TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH . 
          >> ONLY FROM THE CDC NO MONEY FROM THE COUNTY, WE ARE GOING ALONE ON THIS EVENT . MAYBE TALK TO THE COUNTY MANAGER START NEGOTIATING WHICH BENEFIT NOT ONLY CITY RESIDENTS BUT COUNTY RESIDENTS AS WELL. AND TOURISM . WE COULD. 
          >> GENTLEMAN WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE BECAUSE WE WILL GO 
          ROUND AND ROUND ON THIS. >> I MAINTAIN THE RATE THE SAME AND THEN THEY CAN NEGOTIATE WORKING HYBRIDS AND THOSE 
          THINGS. >> THAT IS COMMISSIONER STURGIS 
          . >> I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE RATE. I THINK THE RATE NEEDS TO BE THE SAME. THIS IS AN EVENT THAT IS INTEGRAL TO THE COUNTY . IT'S IMPORTANT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR. 
          IT IS OUR BANNER EVENT. THERE'S NO OTHER EVENT THAT IS AS BIG AS THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL . IT PUTS US ON THE MAP. 
          THE ONLY OTHER EVENT THAT IS EVEN CLOSE IS NOT IN THE CITY. 
          LONG STORY SHORT, THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT THE SAME. 
          I THINK IF THE CITY NEEDS TO HELP FUND SOME OF THIS, TEMPORARILY, LIKE $5,000, I WOULD BE FINE WITH 5,000 EXTRA DOLLARS. I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING 20-30,000 DOLLARS EARLIER . THAT IS MY OPINION . 
          >> COMMISSIONER BEAN . >> I THINK I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER STURGIS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE OKAY, THIS IS OUR EVENT. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE CITY THAT COULD BE OTHER PEOPLES, BUT THIS IS US, THIS IS WHAT WE DO . WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL IS OKAY. 
          WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN NEGOTIATE PRIVATE SECURITY . I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE HERE TONIGHT WITHOUT -- IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO TOUCH THE RATE, WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION . 
          >> I WILL SUPPORT THE RATE THE WAY IT IS, BUT I DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT WAS FORMULATED. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, THE MANDATE BECAUSE OF THE NEED FOR SAFETY, WHEN YOU MANDATE, I HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH MANDATING AND THEN GOING TO VOLUNTEERS . BUT THAT IS A PERSONAL THING. I WILL SUPPORT IT THE WAY IT IS . THEY CAN WORK OUT WHATEVER THEY NEED. 
          >> WHY DON'T WE DO THE FOLLOWING. 
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WHEN WE PLACE A RESOLUTION ON A VERY NEAR FUTURE AGENDA WITH COMMISSIONER STURGIS PROPOSAL TO CONTRIBUTE $5,000 TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COST FOR FIRE AND POLICE. AND WE WILL TAKE A VOTE ON IT . 
          SO CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE THAT HAPPEN . 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EXPERTISE AS ALWAYS. YOUR LIGHTS ARE ON. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO SAY ON THIS TOPIC? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MA'AM . I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT TO US. MAKING US AWARE. 
          CITY MANAGER, WHERE WE. >> TWO AMENDMENTS PRESENTED TO YOU. THE WASTE AND THE FIRST AMENDMENT WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE LICENSE FEE WHICH IS $15 ANNUALLY FOR NEWS RACKS WITHIN THE PARK DISTRICT. 
          THAT FEE IS ADDED TO THE PLANNING AND CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT. AND THEN, I PROVIDED TO YOU A REPLACEMENT PAGE OR THE WASTEWATER FEES WHAT WAS UPLOADED WAS NOT CORRECT . THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT REPRESENT A 3% INCREASE. SO THESE ARE THE TWO AMENDMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED FROM SARAH. I KNOW YOU HAD OTHER DISCUSSIONS 
          YOU WANT TO CONSIDER. >> I HAVE TWO ITEMS COMMISSIONER'S. BUT I WANT TO LISTEN TO YOURS FIRST . THERE'S A LOT OF FEES ON HERE . AND THERE'S A LOT TO ADDRESS . SO, COMMISSIONER BEAN YOUR LIGHT IS ON . 
          >> ALSO HAVE TO ITEMS BUT I WILL DO ONE AT A TIME. 
          THE FIRST 1I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS PARK AND RECREATION FEE STRUCTURE. WE HAD THAT SPLIT BETWEEN CITY RESIDENTS ARE NOT CITY RESIDENTS . I THINK THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD AT ONE TIME IS WE SHOULD INCREASE THE FEES FOR NON- CITY RESIDENTS . RESIDENTS THAT ARE USING THE SERVICES BUT NOT PAYING TAXES BUT LET'S KEEP THEM LOWER FOR CITY RESIDENTS. 
          WHAT I AM SEEING, AND SOMEONE CONTACTED ME WHO IS A BIG FAN OF WATER AEROBICS . SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED TO CITY RESIDENTS, IT WENT UP BY 20% AND 40% FOR A DAILY WATER AEROBICS CLASS . 
          THAT WAS COMPARABLE TO THE COUNTY RESIDENT . WHAT I SEE FEE STRUCTURE IS, IT MOVES EVERYONE EQUALLY UP THE BOARD. 
          I WANT TO SEE, A MORE DRAMATIC INCREASE FOR NON- CITY RESIDENTS BUT NOT OF AN INCREASE WITH THE CITY RESIDENTS . I WANT TO SEE LESS THAN HEY 20% INCREASE . THERE COULD BE A MARKET RATE BY 20% AND ONE YEAR FOR WATER AEROBICS PASSES TOO MUCH . 
          >> DID THE NON- CITY RESIDENT PASS GO UP 20%? 
          >> I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE CITY NON- CITY RESIDENT WENT UP BY, BUT IT IS NOT DRAMATIC . IT LOOKS SIMILAR TO THE PRICE IT WAS BEFORE . AGAIN WE DETERMINED THAT THIS. 
          >> THE NON- CITY RATES, THERE WERE INCREASES BUT ALL OF THE NON- CITY RATES ARE 25% HIGHER AS DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY 
          COMMISSIONER . >> I WAS NOT CLEAR ON WHETHER MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED. DID THE WATER AEROBICS PASS, IT WENT UP 20% FOR CITY RESIDENTS . WAS THE NON- RESIDENT FEE 
          INCREASED? >> WE DID MAINTAIN THE 
          RELATIONSHIP UP 25% MORE . >> SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, WHATEVER THE CITY RATE IS, THE NON- CITY PAYS 25%? 
          >> CORRECT . >> THAT IS CLEAR. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THAT GAP AND DECREASE THE COST 
          FOR CITY RESIDENTS . >> SO YOU WANT NON- CITY RESIDENTS TO PAY MORE AND SEES RESIDENTS TO PAY LESS . 
          >> LET'S ADDRESS THIS FIRST. COMMISSIONERS WITH PLEASURE ON 
          THE SUGGESTION? >> MR. MAYOR IF I CAN. 
          I HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE. 
          SHE ALREADY HAS SOME IDEAS FOR THE FEE SCHEDULE . GUESS WE WILL 
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REVIEW THE FEE SCHEDULE BASED ON HER PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AND WE WILL LIKELY BE BACK, PROBABLY IN JANUARY AFTER THREE MONTHS, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED AND WE WILL LOOK AT IT . WHAT I CHALLENGE HER TO DO IS HOW DO WE SIMPLIFY IT. 
          MAYBE WE HAVE ONE GREAT FOR EVERYONE BUT YOU HAVE AN ANNUAL SURCHARGE. THE NUMBER TO BE DETERMINED. 
          MAYBE CHARGE EVERY NON- CITY RESIDENT A FLAT FEE OF $100 PER YEAR END THEY PAID THE CITY RATE ON EVERYTHING . WE WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THAT IS . THOSE ARE THE THINGS I START PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION WITH WE ARE LOCATED TO SEE FEE SCHEDULE THIS EVENING 
          . >> CORRECT . 
          >> ONCE AGAIN, WE CAN SIT HERE AND NEGOTIATE ALL NIGHT LONG . 
          >> COMMISSIONER PROSPECT. >> THESE FEES -- WHERE THEY USED TO GENERATE THE REVENUE THAT IS PRODUCED IN THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE PASS TONIGHT? AND JUST. 
          >> WE PASSED THE BUDGET TONIGHT, AND NOW WE ARE TAKING AWAY MONEY FROM THE BUDGET. MOST OF THESE FEES, I AM OF THE OPINION WE SHOULD MAINTAIN THEM AS WRITTEN, PARTICULARLY FOR PARKS AND REC WITH THE NEW PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR, LET HER AND HER STAFF WORK IT OUT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS AND SEE WHERE WE CAN GO FROM THERE . BUT IT HAS TO COME FROM THE BUDGET BUT PICKING AND CHOOSING THE WATER AEROBICS BECAUSE THE PICKLE WHILE PEOPLE WANT SOMETHING ELSE, I WOULD KEEP ALL OF THE PARKS AND REC FEES THE SAME. 
          GIVE THEM 203 MONTHS TO SORT THINGS OUT. 
          >> COMMISSIONER YOUR LIGHT IS OUT . 
          >> I SEE EVERYONE'S POINT HERE . AND YES WE WILL REVIEW THAT IN JANUARY. I WOULD HOPE TO SEE THE NEW PLAN WOULD REDUCE WATER AEROBICS FEE. BUT I DON'T THINK WE WILL TAKE IN LESS MONEY IF WE INCREASE THE OUT OF CITY RESIDENTS FEE . THE GAP IS IMPORTANT TO ME. IT PROVIDES VALUE . AND I DON'T KNOW IF 25% IS A BIG ENOUGH GAP. MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THAT FEE INCREASE EVERY YEAR AS OPPOSED TO NOW . $7 FOR A SINGLE FLAT AS OPPOSED TO LAST YEAR IS A HUGE JUMP . SO IS THE 20% . IN A SINGLE YEAR THAT IS A LARGE JUMP FOR PEOPLE WHOM THIS IS THEIR PRIMARY ACTIVITY . SOME PEOPLE GO EVERY DAY . THIS IS A BIG DEAL TO THEM . I THINK IT IS TOO MUCH OF AN INCREASE IN A SINGLE YEAR END WE MAY BE MAKING A MISTAKE BY DOING THAT . THANK 
          YOU . >> IF I COULD A QUICK COMMENT. 
          I THINK WE CAN GO TO MONTHLY PASSES INSTEAD OF DAILY PASSES. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE MONTHLY PASS. ONE IS $60 . SAME METHODS AND THEY PASS . YOU GET 30, AT $2 PER DAY IF YOU BAT -- 55 PAST. 
          I THINK THERE IS A TENDENCY TO PROMOTE THE MONTHLY PASS INSTEAD 
          OF THE DAILY PASS . >> I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT 
          ONE THING . >> KATHY PARSON REX DIRECTOR THANK YOU . YOU KNOW, JUST DOING THESE CALCULATIONS AND ANALYZING WHERE WE WERE WHERE WE ARE NOW THE NONRESIDENT DAILY RATE FOR AEROBICS IS AN INCREASE OF ONE 100% . AND THAT INCREASE FOR THE PRESIDENT IS LESS AND 40%. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK IT WAS 25% ACROSS-THE-BOARD . THERE WAS SUCH DRASTIC INCREASE FOR THE DAILY RATE . AND CITY MANAGER, YOU ARE CORRECT . WE ARE DRIVING THEM TOWARDS, THE FEES DRIVE TOWARDS MONTHLY AND THE PRICES ARE HIGHER FOR THE DAILY. 
          >> CAN WE AMEND THE FEE SCHEDULE AT ANY TIME DURING THE YEAR? SANCHEZ . IT IS PASS BY AND ORDERED HIM TO HAVE SEEN . AND I 
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HAVEN'T TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT, 90 DAYS BY THE GALLON HERE SOME THINGS WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT IS VIEWED . IT CAN BE AMENDED, 
          IT'S AN ORDINANCE . >> WITH THAT BEING SAID, EVEN THOUGH, TO ME THAT IS PERFECT . LET'S DOUBLE THIS. 
          IT SOUNDS GREAT . I STILL THINK THAT IS TOO MUCH, THE MONTHLY PASSES . LAST YEAR IT WAS $50 . SHE IS A JUMP . I THINK 55 IS A GOOD NUMBER . JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE . 
          >> OBJECTIONS NOTED . I HAVE FOR IMPROVING . I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, SAY WE LOOK AT THE STANDARD 25% . JUST,. 
          >> ALL RIGHT, I THINK TO DO THAT . 
          >> WHAT OTHER SPECIFIC FEET WE WANT TO DISCUSS QUESTS. 
          >> THERE ARE A FEW FEES I WANT TO DISCUSS . I HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE IF THE BILLING DEPARTMENT AND WE WERE FOR TESTING FEES . SOME ARE MORE THAT THEY WEREN'T THE PREVIOUS YEAR, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS BEEN ONE YEAR END NOTHING HAS CHANGED OTHER THAN THE RATES HAVE GONE UP . 
          >> I WILL TAKE ONE AT A TIME. -- THE FIRST THING I, THE HOT TOPIC, I GOT AN E-MAIL YESTERDAY MORNING AND SOMEONE CALLED ME A FEW DAYS BEFORE THEM. THE FIRE REVIEW. 
          >> WHAT SECTION THAT UNDER. >> THAT IS RIGHT BELOW POLICE 
          THIS PLAN REVIEW . >> I'M SORRY. 
          PUBLIC SAFETY . >> I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE DIFFERENT EXPENSES, BUT IT IS 45% OF THE BUILDING FEE THAT CAN BE HEALTHY CONSIDERING THE PEOPLE I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH. 
          I WILL NOT GO INTO SPECIFICS, BUT ONE PROJECT THEY MAY HAVE ONE WEEKS WORTH OF TIME ON IT. I THINK THAT IS STIFF BEING THAT THE COUNTY IS 35% . BUILDING COUNTY . I AM LOOKING AT THEIR SITE RIGHT NOW COUNTY . I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT 35% SHOULD COST . THESE THINGS THAT WE ARE MONEY SURELY OUR DEPARTMENT CANNOT BE A PROPHET . TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MAINTAINING OUR DEPARTMENT AND TAKING CARE OF THIS. THAT IS THE ONE ITEM I WANT TO 
          START WITH . >> AND WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING 
          THE FEE SHOULD BE . >> I AM PROPOSING WE GO DOWN TO 35% TO 45% . OF THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE. 
          >> SECOND. AND TWO IN FAVOR -- 
          >> MR. MAYOR IF I CAN. I AM NOT SURE . THE CITY DID CONDUCT A STUDY . IT IS-YEARS-OLD . THE CITY IS COLLECTING 91% OF OUR COSTS . WE ARE NOT MAKING A PROFIT FOR THE FEES THAT ARE THERE WERE ERRORS. I WANTED TO BE CLEAR, WE PAID TO AN OUTSIDE BUILDING FEE ANALYSIS THAT INDICATED THE CITY WAS COVERING 91% OF THE COSTS NOT WON A 1% . 
          >> I AM WELL AWARE THAT I SAW IMPERFECTIONS AS WELL . I THINK 
          WE CAN TRY TO. >> PETTIS CHIEF, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN OFFER COMMENTS ON HOW THE FEE IS SET. 
          >> I AM NOT SURE THAT THIS IS MANDATED. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'S A MANDATED FEE. 
          THAT WAS MY CONCERN . >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, DID YOU -- 
          >> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WANT TO . THE COUNTY FEE . 
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          >> I LOOKED OUT OF THE COUNTY FEES AND ACCOUNTING CHARGES MORE . DO YOU WANT TO INCREASE THOSE FEES . THE COUNTY FEES? 
          >> I'M LOOKING DIRECTLY AT FEES, I NOTE THIS JOB COULD NOT HAVE TAKEN MORE THAN A FEE AND WE CHARGE $100,000 . DOES THAT MEAN 
          -- >> I CANNOT COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE JOB OR THE PARTICULARS . SO I AM AT A DISADVANTAGE . I AM SAYING IN GENERAL, THE BOARD WAS COLLECTING 91% WE ARE LOSING MONEY . 
          >> I DON'T THINK WE ARE LOSING MONEY IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT 
          . >> I THOUGHT WE HAD THIS 
          DISCUSSION. >> WE ARE OFFERING, THE STUDY IS DATED AND OVER 2-YEARS-OLD. 91% OF OUR COSTS. 
          COVERING . THE STATE STATUTE IS STILL BEING WORKED OUT ON WHEN DO YOU CALCULATE YOUR SURPLUS AT THE TIME THE STATUTE WAS APPROVED . WE ARE WELL AND COMPLIANCE. 
          >> HOW MUCH IS THE SURPLUS. >> IT IS A COUPLE OF MILLION 
          DOLLARS. >> I REMEMBER THIS COMPTROLLERS 
          MONTHLY BUDGET REPORT . >> CHARLIE GEORGE, KEEP IN MIND A BIG CHUNK THAT IS ABOUT TO COME OUT. 
          THAT IS WHY WE HAVE RESOURCE FOR THOSE ISSUES. 
          AND THE STATE ALLOWS US BY STATUTE TO HAVE A RESERVE OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT WE CAN KEEP ON FOR THESE ISSUES . I CAN'T REALLY DEFEND THE FIRE FOR ME I KNOW WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE COUNTY, . THE FEES DEAL WITH THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF PROJECTS. 
          WE HAVE HOTELS. A LOT MORE CONDOS . IT'S A LOT MORE COMPLICATED PLAN REVIEW WHEN YOU GO FROM A HOTEL LIKE SPRINGFIELD SUITES AS OPPOSED TO AN OFFICE BUILDING . THERE IS SOME COMPLEXITIES THAT YOU CAN'T STRAIGHT-LINE CALCULATION .% SOMETIMES IT TAKES WE. SOMETIMES TAKES A MONTH. 
          WE HAVE SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR MONTHS TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT FIRES THAT WE WILL BE ALLOWED. 
          YOU CAN'T USE THAT AS A BENCHMARK . 
          >> THOSE ARE JUST MY COMMENTS . >> COMMISSIONER YOUR LIGHT IS ON 
          . I SO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. >> ONCE AGAIN GENTLEMEN, IF WE GO FEEDTHROUGH FEE, WE WILL BE HERE ALL NIGHT . 
          >> ONLY UP THREE LINE ITEMS . LET'S DEAL WITH THE LINE ITEM BROUGHT UP FIRST . AND I HAVE TWO IN FAVOR, VICE MAYOR WOODY 
          SHORES? >> ON THIS? 
          >> ALTHOUGH PUBLIC SAFETY . >> I AM NOT INTO NEGOTIATING EACH ONE. WE SHOULD APPROVE IT THE WAY THEY ARE SAYING. BEARS A LOT OF FEES HERE AND I DON'T WANT TO MICROMANAGE WHAT OUR STAFF IS DOING . IF THEY FEEL IT IS APPROPRIATE I DON'T WANT TO COMPARE WITH THE COUNTY. 
          I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. IF WE DO THAT, I WON'T DO IT BUT IF IT IS DONE THERE SHOULD BE A PROCESS THIS IS MORE SCIENTIFIC SITTING DOWN AND LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS. 
          THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AS TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT AND IT IS. 
          THIS FEE, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. IS THAT CORRECT? 
          >> IT GOES TO FIRE . THE GENERAL FUND . 
          >> COMMISSIONER STURGIS IS PROPOSING WELL ONE YEAR FROM BACK 35. DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY LACKS HE IS IN FAVOR. MR. VENUS IN FAVOR. 
          VICE MAYOR? YOU ARE SAYING? YOU ARE SAYING NO WHEN I SAY NO . SO NEXT. 
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          >> THERE WILL BE VERY BRIEF AND QUICK VERY THE LARGE-SCALE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS $5,000. AND THIS IS. 
          >> PLEASE FINISH. >> THAT WAS A POLICY DECISION BASED ON THE CITY COMMISSION. I DON'T THINK IT HAS CHANGED . 
          IT IS THE SAME FEE THAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY, WHICH WAS SET BY THE PREVIOUS CITY COMMISSION. POLICY DECISION TO NOT PROMOTE OR MAKE IT EASY TO MAKE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGES . 
          >> THIS COMMISSION CAN VOTE THAT DOWN. 
          THE BOARD CAN VOTE THAT DOWN BEFORE IT GETS TO US . SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO IT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY LARGE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED. UNDERSTAND, I BELIEVE THE FEE SHOULD BE REDUCED. I DON'T THINK IT WILL MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. FOR THESE FEW FEES. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE DEMOLITION. 
          >> LET'S DEAL WITH LARGE-SCALE AND SMALL-SCALE. 
          >> IF MS. GIBSON CAN ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION CERTAINLY. 
          >> GOOD EVENING CONSERVATION DEVELOPER. 
          THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FUTURE LAND NOT ONLY IS IT THAT ACREAGE BUT THE TIME AND ENERGY IT TAKES TO PROCESS . THE STATE WHERE WE HAVE TO RUN IT THROUGH TO BE REVIEWED AND THE REVIEWING AGENCIES. AND WE HAVE FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AS A RESULT . 
          >> IT HAS BEEN 502,500 FROM LONG? 
          >> >> LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS. 
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          >> A LARGE-SCALE IS CHANGED. I DON'T KNOW IF IT REQUIRES 
          STATE REVIEW . >> WERE MAKING A BIG DEAL OVER 
          NOTHING . I'M SORRY . >> HOW MANY 25-ACRE PARCELS ARE 
          THERE IN THE CITY. >> 
          >> THERE ARE PLENTY, OR HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED . 
          >> MY POINT IS, I AM FAMILIAR WITH THIS AND THERE ARE NO 25-ACRE SUBDIVISIONS THAT WILL GO IN. 
          I WILL LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS . >> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING . 
          MY ONLY QUESTION IS, IF THEY WANT TO PAY ADVERTISING FEES TO KEEP THIS SLOWER, HOW COME THE APPLICANT COULDN'T PAY? 
          >> WE WOULD NEED A SEPARATE BREAKDOWN TO ACCOMMODATE THAT . 
          THIS ALLOWS US TO MAKE SURE I KNOW THAT BEFORE I STARTED IN 2007 BUT A LOT OF THAT WAS BORNE BY THE APPLICANT AND THEY HAD TO 
          TRACK IT TO MAKE SURE. >> THERE IS ALSO, THE SMALL VERSION OF THIS . CORRECT . WE REALLY TALK ABOUT A CASE THAT 
          INVOLVED A SMALL OFFENSE . >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGE . THAT WOULD ALSO BE A FEAR . 
          >> I WOULD BACK YOU UP ON THE SMALL 12 . 
          >> I WOULD LOVE TO CHANGE IT FROM 25 HUNDREDTHS BACK TO 1500. 
          >> WE HAVE NO PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE AMENDMENT FROM 2500. 
          I HAVE HEARD FROM TWO COMMISSIONERS . IN THE AFFIRMATIVE . COMMISSIONER ROSS. VICE MAYOR. 
          LET'S MOVE ON . NEXT . >> VERY BRIEFLY. 
          THE DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE THAT IS CONTRIBUTING, IT IS 
          $7,500 AND THAT SHOULD -- >> WEBPAGE ARE WE ON? 
          >> RIGHT ABOVE IT . >> DEMOLITION OF PRIMARY 
          STRUCTURE . >> I WOULD THINK, IF SOMEONE WILL DO THIS THEY WILL BE VOTED IN ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER . 
          >> MOVE IT DOWN TO 5,000 . THIS IS CRAZY. 
          >> I AGREE . >> WHAT IS THE EXPLANATION. 
          IS THIS THE SAME FEE IT WAS LAST YEAR . 
          >> MISS GIBSON, YOU MAY AS WELL STAY UP THERE . 
          >> WE PRIDE OURSELVES TO PREVENT THE DEMOLITION OF HISTORICAL STRUCTURES . THAT IS THE BASIS OF THE FEE. 
          >> YES BUT THE FEE, THE ACTUAL VOTE BY THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT WOULD PREVENT IT. AS THE BUILDING ON FRONT STREET. 
          >> CORRECT. BUT AGAIN, IT IS TO MAKE IT FINANCIALLY CONSIDERABLE SO THE HISTORICAL DIVISION DOES NOT HAVE TO KEEP REVIEWING . IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE IN OUR TOWN, YOU HAVE TO CONTRIBUTES SUBSTANTIALLY AND MAKE A DECISION WHETHER YOU WANT TO PURSUE THAT COURSE OF ACTION. 
          >> OUR LONG HAS IT $7,500? >> IS 2018 OR 2019 . 
          >> OKAY, COMMISSIONERS WE HAVE A PROPOSAL TO LOWER IT FROM 7500. 
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I HAVE A NO. I HAVE A NO . YOU KNOW WHAT, ON THIS ONE I WILL GO WITH YOU . SO LOW WERE. 
          LOWER IT TO 5,000. THESE WILL ALL BE PART OF THE 
          MOTION . >> ALL RIGHT. 
          WHAT COMMISSIONER, TURN YOUR LIGHTS OFF. 
          TURN IS OFF. WHAT COMMISSIONER HAS A FEE THEY WANT TO DISCUSS? VICE MAYOR? 
          WIT IS YOUR FEE . >> I WANTED TO BE 0 . 
          >> THAT IS THE MANDATORY INCREASE. 
          >> IT COULD BE 9% . >> THE ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE BOND OR THE UTILITY, IT SHOULD BE INCREASE ANNUALLY . WHICHEVER IS GREATER . FOR THE PAST SIX OR FIVE YEARS THERE HAS BEEN NO 
          INCREASE TO THE WATER FEE. >> SO WE IGNORED OUR OWN 
          ORDINANCE . >> IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN 18% 
          FEE . >> BUT THE RATIONALE WAS BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE GROWTH THAT WE COULD GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE BASED ON GROWTH AND USE OF THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. 
          WITH THE WASTEWATER, THERE WAS NO INCREASE, NO CHANGE UNTIL 
          THEY REDUCE THE FEES . >> DURING ALL OF THE BUDGET HEARINGS, EVEN THOUGH THE BONDS REQUIRED A 3% INCREASE I WAS RECOMMENDING NO INCREASE . SO I VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE . 
          >> IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS AN ARBITRARY THING . 
          >> ARBITRARY AND THAT WE DID NOT ASSESS IT . WHEN YOU DON'T FOLLOW AN ORDINANCE FOR SIX YEARS . BASED ON WHOSE EVERY DECISION IT WAS NOT TO DO IT. IT IS IN THE FEE SCHEDULE . THEY 
          SAID YOU SHOULD RAISE IT 3% . >> THE BOND SAYS YOU SHOULD 
          RAISE IT. >> IT WAS A BOND DAUGHTER . 
          >> ARBITRARY MEANS YOU JUST DO IT. 
          WE CONSCIOUSLY DID NOT RAISE THE PRICE. 
          BUT IT IS A 3% INCREASE . >> HIM, NOT US . I KNEW ABOUT IT . IF YOU DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT SHAME ON YOU . 
          >> WE DID NOT VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE . 
          >> IT IS NOT AN ORDINANCE IT IS A RESOLUTION. 
          WHEN WE DO BONDS IN THE CITY WE ADOPT THE BOND BY RESOLUTION. 
          THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT AND FOUR YEARS THERE WAS NO BOND COVENANT THAT REQUIRES AN INCREASE IN THE FEES AT ALL . THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION IN THE RESOLUTION THAT IN ORDER TO MAKE OUR DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS THAT WE WILL INCREASE OUR FEES IF NEEDED. 
          WE DID NOT VIOLATE ANYTHING. THIS YEAR, BECAUSE OF INFLATION, BECAUSE OF INFLATION THAT IS WHY IT IS WISE FOR US TO INCREASE THE FEE. BUT IT IS ULTIMATELY A POLICY DECISION. IF WE DO NOT RAISE THE RATES AT SOME POINTS, WE MAY GET IN TROUBLE WITH DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS . IF WE DON'T RAISE IT THIS YEAR, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN IT WHERE IT REQUIRED THE CITY TO RAISE BUT IT SAID WE WOULD DO 3% 
          [02:50:04]
          BUT IT IS NOT REQUIRED . >> IT IS ONE OF THE FEW FEES THAT I WOULD PREFER THEY DON'T DO AT THIS TIME. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE MONEY WE HAVE HAD IN UTILITIES -- I THINK WE 
          COULD NOT DO IT AND BE FINE . >> I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A CONSENSUS BECAUSE I WANT TO MOVE ALONG . 
          >> YES THEY HAVE FEES BUT EARLIER THIS YEAR YOU VOTED TO MOVE THE MONEY TO PAY OFF THE DEBT FOR THE MARINA AND THE GOLF COURSE . THE INTENT IS WE NEED TO REPLENISH OUR RESERVES. 
          >> WE WILL REPLENISH OUR RESERVES ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE MARINA AND THE GOLF COURSE. 
          >> WE ARE RAISING THE FEES -- >> AND WE GIVE RELIEF -- 
          >> CORRECT . >> NO WE DON'T. 
          WE HAVE THE LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR WHICH IS PROVIDING $25,000 RELIEF SINCE 2011. THAT IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY. 
          WE DO GIVE RELIEF TO SENIORS. THERE IS A LOT MORE SENIORS IN 
          THIS TOWN . >> SOME GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A PROPOSAL TO ELIMINATE THE FEE. COMMISSIONER BEAN . 
          >> S ELIMINATE. >> COMMISSIONER STURGIS . NO I WANT THE TWINS TO FLUSH. I SUPPORT THE CURRENT FEE . 
          >> I WELCOME -- SUPPORT THE CURRENT FEE GIVEN THAT SOME YEARS WE DON'T APPLY . WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT DISCRETION TO DO THAT. 
          >> VICE MAYOR, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE SHE WANTED TO 
          DISCUSS? >> ALL RIGHT LIGHTS OFF . THIS IS LIKE WAX ON, WAX OFF. OKAY WHAT FEES DO YOU WANT TO 
          DISCUSS? >> ALREADY HAD YOUR SAY . 
          >> WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE YET . 
          >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE. 
          >> ONE FEE AT A TIME. GIVE ME THE FEE . 
          >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ANNUAL MEMBERSHIPS FOR BOTH SIDES. I THINK IT IS A LARGE INCREASE ALL AT ONCE AND WITH THAT BEING SAID I THINK, THAT COULD BE THE 
          MARKET RATE . >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE 
          PAST? >> THE FEE FOR CITY RESIDENTS AND NON- CITY RESIDENTS. AND WHAT I THINK IS THAT MAYBE THAT IS THE MARKET RATE BUT TO DO IT IN ONE YEAR, I DON'T THINK IT IS THE OPTIMAL STRATEGY FOR RETAINING CUSTOMERS AND IN TERMS OF PUTTING SHOCK FOR PEOPLE TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE . MAYBE MAKE A PLAN FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS WE WORK TO GET TO THAT NUMBER BUT DOING IT ALL IT JUST SEEMS TOO MUCH. 
          >> WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING? >> I'M PROPOSING A ONE THIRD INCREASE . I'M PROPOSING LET'S GET TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE INCREASE WE ARE DOING THIS YEAR, DIVIDED BY THREE AND APPLIED THAT. JAMES WHAT IS THE NUMBER? 
          >> I WILL TELL YOU THE NUMBER. IT WILL BE $5,000 MINUS WHATEVER 
          COSTS BRASHEAR. >> APPROXIMATELY, THE CITY RESIDENT FEE WOULD GO FROM 3,0002 THE NONRESIDENT FEE WOULD GO FROM -- 
          [02:55:05]
          >> MADAME . PLEASE HAND THIS TO THE CITY CLERK SO SHE HAS IT FOR 
          THE RECORD . >> I ALREADY WROTE ON MINE . 
          >> THAT WILL BE PART OF THE MOTION . DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER 
          FEE? >> I DO HAVE ANOTHER FEE. 
          I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE TIME. RATHER -- 
          >> I'M HOPING WE CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM . BASED ON THE E-MAIL . 
          >> CAN ASK ONE QUESTION . >> IS . 
          >> I WAS CHECKING ON MY PHONE BUT THE RATES WERE. 
          JOHN PELIKAN . GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD. 
          I WAS LOOKING AT THE RATES AND WHAT DISTURBS ME MOST, I DIDN'T SEE SINGLE, COUPLE THE LIMITED MEMBERSHIPS. 
          IM NOT SURE WHETHER THAT CATEGORY IS ILLUMINATED . THAT IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN. 
          SCHEDULE . THANK YOU . >> MOTHER ONE AND LET ME KEEP IT QUICK. THE BEST WIN UNTIL MY NEXT FEE IS BY TELLING A 32ND STORY ABOUT THE BILLING DEPARTMENT . 
          THAT IS LESS THINK I HAVE BEEN. >> GOLF IS GOOD . DIRECTORS TO 
          THE PAGE . THIS IS PAGE THREE. >> SO, DALE WALK ME THROUGH HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO INSTALL THE DOOR . IT WAS ACTUALLY A DOOR I TRY TO PURCHASE MYSELF . WHEN I WAS AT LOWE'S, THEY SAID DO YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTY OR THE CITY . BECAUSE THE FEES WERE GOING TO BE SO MUCH MORE . THE FEES WERE $70. 
          I'M GOING TO THROW THIS OUT THERE . I KNOW YOUR OPINION, BUT I WANTED TO HEAR IT FOR THE ROOM . WE HAVE A SURPLUS OF $1.6 MILLION . PSALM IS GOING TO THE SOFTWARE . THERE STILL $1 MILLION IN SURPLUS . THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR THEMSELVES AND HOW MUCH SURPLUS THEY CAN HAVE. 
          I THINK, WE SHOULD MATCHED BOOK COUNTY . REGARDLESS OF THE PERCEPTION, THE CITY IS THAT MUCH MORE AND BASED ON THIS DOOR WE ARE $20 MORE THAN THE COUNTY . THE DIFFERENCE IS NOT THAT MUCH . WITH THAT IN MIND, IF WE WERE TO REDUCE OUR FEES, I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD SAY WE HAVE CREATED A FAIR BILLING DEPARTMENT . WE WOULD CHARGE LESS FEES BUT WE HAVE $1 MILLION IN THE BANK THAT WE CAN USED TO SUSTAIN US SO WE WOULD BE GOOD FOR SEVERAL YEARS . AGAIN, CAN WE CONFIRM THAT? 
          >> I'M WAITING ON MR. GEORGE. >> WEDO -- WE DID ANALYSIS AND MOST OF THE CASES . IF YOU WANT TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE COUNTY, IF YOU UP ALL OF THE COUNTY FEES, THEY ARE HIGHER 
          THAN US . >> AND SO WOULD YOU AGREE THERE IS A PERCEPTION THAT AGREE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO DO BUSINESS HERE 
          [03:00:05]
IF OUR FEES ARE LESS THAN THE COUNTY . 
          >> I WILL STOP THAT QUESTION . YOU RAISE THE ISSUE OF LOWERING THE DOOR FEE. WE WON'T TALK ABOUT THE 
          PERCEPTION. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS TRAVIS POINTED OUT SOME THINGS ARE LOWER AND SOME ARE HIGHER . THAT IS NOT AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. 
          DO WE LOWER THE DOOR FEE OR DO WE KEEP IT. 
          >> WE DON'T HAVE A DOOR FEE. >> WE HAVE AN ALL-INCLUSIVE 
          PERMIT FEE. >> THE DOOR PERMIT FEE. 
          >> GO AHEAD. I DID A LITTLE STUDY TODAY. 
          I AM TIRED OF '. I MADE A LIST AND COMPARED SOME OF THESE FEES . SOME CHARGE MORE THAN OTHERS WE WERE LOWER AND SOME THEY WERE A LOT OVER. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TDC FEES, THESE ARE LESS THAN THE COUNTY FEES. 
          IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE FEES, BUT WHAT I WOULD HOPE TO DO IS LET US PUT THIS TO REST, LET US TAKE THE FEES AND MAKE A CHART LIKE THEY DID THIS AFTERNOON AND COMPARED THE FEES TO SEE IF IT IS TRUE OR NOT. I THINK YOU WILL FIND OUT THE COUNTY CHARGES MORE ON MANY THINGS. 
          HOW DOES THAT ALL WORK OUT. MIRRORING THE FEES MAY NOT GET 
          YOU WHERE YOU WANT TO GO . IT'S. >> REMEMBER THERE 1.6 AND THERE. 
          THE MONEY IF WE HAVE A DOWN YEAR THIS WILL PAYS SALARIES AND EVERYTHING THAT WILL CARRY THEM THROUGH. 
          SO THAT IS WHAT THE RESERVE IS AND THEREFORE. 
          >> WOULD BE A NO. >> A NO ON LOWERING IT. 
          >> YES. YOU ARE NO. 
          >> OKAY, THE LIGHTS ARE OFF. WHAT IS THE NEXT FEE? 
          YOU ARE GOOD? >> BRIEFLY. 
          I DID HAVE ONE FEE THAT WAS THE FINGERPRINTING FEE. 
          I FOUND OUT TODAY THEY ARE ELECTRONIC. 
          >> THIS IS MORE OF A QUESTION. I DID GET AN E-MAIL ABOUT THE KEY BEING $25. IS THAT THE SAME FEE IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN. HAS IT ALWAYS MEANT $25? 
          >> I BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN. >> LET'S JUST SAY YES . I STILL HAVE THE KEY. IT IS THE SAME FORECASTS AND 
          >> ONE KEY . >> I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT 
          TIMELINE. >> IT IS A ONE-TIME FEE. 
          >> I AM FINE WITH THAT . >> I WANT TO BUILD ON THAT . I AM GOING TO READ YOU AND E-MAIL WE ALL GOD . I WILL READ WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT . I HAVE SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW I AM NOT OPPOSED TO USER FEES . HOWEVER, I FIND IT BLATANTLY UNFAIR TO IMPOSE THIS FEE, THE $25 COURT FEE FEET TO CITY RESIDENTS TO ACCESS THESE CORDS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME CHOOSING TO ASSESS NO FEES FOR THE USAGE OF OTHER SPORTS FACILITIES . NOT ONLY WAS NO REVENUE COLLECTED FOR FOOTBALL, SOCCER BASEBALL FIELDS, BUT NOT RESIDENTS OF THE SKATEBOARD PARK, THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND THE COURTS AT NO COST . THIS IS AN INEQUITABLE 
          [03:05:03]
SOLUTION TO RAISE REVENUE FOR PARKS AND REC AND A BROADER EXAMINATION OF FEE COLLECTION NEEDS TO BE UNDERTAKEN . I HAVE TWO POINTS . NUMBER ONE I SAID THIS OVER AND OVER . THIS IS THE ONLY CITY I HAVE EVER PRESIDED IN THAT BLOCKS TAXPAYER RECREATION FACILITIES . TENNIS COURTS, PICKLE BALL COURTS SHOULD NOT BE LOCKED AND THIS BODY WAS IN UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT THAT THEY SHOULD BE UNLOCKED. WHY ARE THEY LOCKED TO BEGIN WITH IS BEYOND ME WHEN WE PAID FOR THESE THINGS . SHE IS CORRECT, THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO CHARGE FEES CITY RESIDENTS SHOULD BE EXEMPT. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO PASS OUT KEYS THEY GET THEIR KEYS FREE. THAT IS MY PROPOSAL ON THE. 
          WE DO NOT CHARGE CITY RESIDENTS FOR KEYS TO THE TENNIS COURTS AND PICKLE BALL COURTS THAT THEY PAID THE BILL FOR. 
          THAT IS RIDICULOUS . THAT IS MY 2 CENTS . 
          COMMISSIONER RUSS. >> IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE 
          LOCKED THAT COURT. >> THE SAME ARGUMENT COULD BE 
          VANDALIZING THE OTHER COURTS. >> AND I AGREE . THIS IS NOT A 
          HILL THEY WILL DIE ON . >> ON THE FEE SCHEDULE WE DO NOT CHARGE CITY RESIDENTS FOR THESE KEYS . YOU PROVE YOU'RE A RESIDENT, YOU GET YOUR KEY. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THEM LOCKED 
          . >> WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME. 
          >> AS WITH -- JUST GET RID OF THE KEY . 
          >> I SAY IN THIS KEITH THAT'S RIGHT CASE GET RID OF IT. 
          IF WE GET FREE KEYS THERE COULD BE SOME GUY WHO GET 100 KEYS . 
          >> THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THE COURTS. 
          ONE OUT OF TWO ARE OPERATED AND MANAGED UNTIL SEVEN OR 
          8:00 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT . >> WAS IT $7? 
          >> WHATEVER THE COST OF YOUR PROJECT OR. 
          >> IF I SAY I'M DOING THIS PROJECT I PAID THE $75 PLUS $7 OR $8 AND THAT IS HOW THEY FIGURE IT OUT . 
          [10. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]
          [03:10:44]
          >> OKAY. CITY MANAGER REPORT. 
          >> I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. I WANT OFFER MY CONDOLENCES TO PERFORM ACCOUNTING MANAGER. HE WAS THE COUNTY MANAGER THAT WELCOMED ME TOO THIS COMMUNITY AND HE PASSED AWAY OVER THE WEEKEND. SO MY CONDOLENCES TO HIS WIFE AND THE COUNTY STAFF THAT WORKED WITH HIM FOR MANY YEARS . 
          SECONDLY, AS I INDICATED I AM A MEMBER OF THE FINANCE AND TAXATION COMMITTEE. WE WERE CONSIDERED FOR THE ANNUAL PRIORITIES. AND THE COMMITTEE HAS OPTED TO FOCUS ON THREE PRIORITIES AND THAT IS PROPERTY TAXES, TRANSFERS AND THOSE ARE THE THREE TOPICS THAT THE COMMITTEE WILL PREPARE AN OFFER ONE THIRD IS A PRIORITY AND THE OTHERS WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD . WE MEET AGAIN ON OCTOBER 6 . THAT 
          IS ALL I HAVE. >> SO LET US MOVE ON . YOU CAN COME TO THE FOREFRONT. BUTTS TALK ABOUT THE DUNE ON NORTH FLETCHER IN WHICH I WAS INTERACTING WITH HOMEOWNERS IN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. I HAVE BEEN AT THE JOB SITE . I HAVE PHOTOS THAT I TOOK LAST FRIDAY. 
          IT IS IN THE COASTAL ZONE WHICH STATES THE DIMINISHING OF THE DUNE IS ALLOWED. A THIRD PARTY INSPECTOR IS ALLOWED IN MY UNDERSTANDING BOTH THE STATE, THE THIRD PARTY INSPECTOR DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO KEEP THEM FROM SHARING OF THE DUNE. YOU SENT ME A DETAILED E-MAIL AND I APPRECIATE THAT . IN WHICH A WALL, A REINFORCEMENT WALL WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE . THERE WAS NO SIGN OF ANY WALL BEING PREPPED, PREPARED 0 . AND THEN I RECEIVED NASTY E-MAILS FROM THE LAND MANAGER ABOUT WHY ARE YOU HARASSING US. 
          AND WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY . WE HAVE A LOOPHOLE IN THE LAND BUILDING CALLED AS FAR AS PROTECTING ENCROACHMENT ON DUNE SPIRIT WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS. WHAT ARE THE SOLUTIONS, I AM ASSUMING IT IS AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO WHAT WE MUST PROHIBIT ANY ENCROACHMENT ON THOSE DUNE SPIRIT WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LARGER CITY. 
          IT IS FIRST AVENUE. AND ON THE EAST SIDE, THE SEASIDE. IT SHOULD NOT BE THAT DIFFICULT FOR US TO PROJECT OVER DUNE SPIRIT SO IF I MISSTATED ANYTHING. MY CONCERN IS SOLVING THE PROBLEM, AND PROTECTING THE DUNE. 
          THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO GET TO. >> LET ME CORRECT ONE THING. 
          THIS IS FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT . THEY DON'T DO SITE INSPECTIONS 
          . >> ARE THERE DUNE INSPECTORS? 
          >> THERE ARE NOT PRIVATE PROVIDER DUNE INSPECTIONS . WE HAVE CITY INSPECTION SPIRIT IT WAS PERMITTED. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS IN VIOLATION. 
          KELLY ASKED TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR AND THE OWNER TOO. 
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AND SHE CAN DISCUSS MORE ABOUT HOW THE CODE IS INTERPRETED TO ALLOW SOME ENCROACHMENT IN THE DUNES . 
          >> SO WE ARE CLEAR . UNDER THE PERMIT THEY CAN TOUCH THE SOON. 
          THAT NEEDS TO STOP . THAT NEEDS TO BE PROHIBITIVE . 
          >> YOU DO OFF TO KEEP IN MIND, IF YOU SAY YOU CAN'T TOUCH ANY DUNE YOU COULD BE AT RISK OF TAKING PERSONAL PROPERTY. 
          >> I WILL LEAVE THAT TO THE BOARD TO SOLVE . HE DOES UNDERSTAND HE HAS TO BUILD A WALL . WE ARE ON IT . THERE IS A GAP TO MAKE IT MORE. MORE DEFINITIVE ABOUT WHAT YOU 
          CAN AND CAN'T DO . >> VICE MAYOR. 
          >> I AGREE WITH WHAT CHARLIE HAS SAID. 
          HOW FAR CAN WE GO OR HOW FAR DO WE PUSH. 
          WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS. THE USE OF THIRD PARTIES WHICH I TALKED TO CHARLIE ABOUT. YOU KNOW THEY WILL NOT PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO THESE ISSUES SO WE HAVE TO PAY BETTER ATTENTION . 
          >> WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET MORE DILIGENT, THAT IS THE BEST WORD, BEGINNING WITH THEM BEFORE THEY START CONSTRUCTION TO GET THE SITUATION CORRECTED. 
          >> I HAVE ONE THOUGHT BEFORE I RECOGNIZE YOU. 
          IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE COASTAL PROTECTION CODE ARE AT ODDS. BECAUSE ONE SAYS YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING TO DIMINISH THE DUNE SPIRIT IT STATES CLEARLY YOU CANNOT TAKE ANY ACTION TO DIMINISH THE DUNES . SO, IF THOUGHT IS THAT COLD HOW CAN THE CITY PERMIT ENCROACH A DUNE, WHICH ONE ARE WE FOLLOWING, I JUST WANT TO BE CONSISTENT . 
          >> I AGREE TO SOME EXTENT. HE TOOK SOME OF THE THUNDER. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT KEEPING GOOD CHEER HE'S DOING THE BEST YOU CAN. BUT IT IS A THIN LINE. 
          ALL OF THESE HOMES, ALL WORD TUNES THAT WERE TAKEN OUT. 
          THEY WERE TAKEN DOWN EVERY DAY. WHEN THEY BUILT THE RITZ-CARLTON THEY TILT IT RIGHT ON THEIR. YOU CAN'T COME HERE, 5-6 YEARS LATER AND SAY I HAVE ARRIVED AT AMELIA ISLAND. 
          AND FORGET EVERYONE ELSE . THAT IS ONE COMMON. 
          ANOTHER THING IS, THE PRIVATE PROVIDERS IS A STATE STATUTE THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE CITY APPROVES WHERE IT SITS . I DON'T THINK PROPERTY RIGHTS WILL ALLOW YOU TO REMOVE -- WE HAVE REMOVE SO MANY THINGS OUT OF BUILDING. THE WETLANDS, THE FLOOD ZONES HAVE CHANGED REGULATIONS. THAT WILL CUT DOWN ON THE DENSITY. I DON'T WANT TO HELP, BECAUSE. 
          >> ANYBODY ELSE, THAT IS ALL I HAVE. 
          WE CAN FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT. THANK YOU. 
          >> CITY ATTORNEY? THE REPORTS. 
          >> CITY CLERK . >> NO REPORTS. 
          [13. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]
          MAYBE WE WILL GET OUT OF HERE. >> VICE MAYOR. 
          [03:20:02]
          >> LAST THURSDAY I GOT A CALL FROM THE FW SEE THAT THE COUNTY HAD OPTED OUT OF OUR GRANT, THEY TOLD US BEFORE THAT WE HAD THIS COMING, THEY ARE RELUCTANT AND FAILED TO SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS THIS ISSUE SO, AT THIS POINT, WE WILL MEET WITH THEM ON FRIDAY TO SEE IF AND WHEN WE CAN PROCEED, AND DO THE CITY PART OF IT WHICH IS DIFFICULT. I THINK THEY WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD. THE COUNTY'S POSITION HAS BEEN AND THIS IS BY E-MAIL . THEY REFUSED TO SIT DOWN WITH US. 
          THIS IS THE COUNTY MANAGER. AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. 
          THEY HAVE DONE ALL OF THESE THINGS AND THERE IS NO NEED TO DO THIS. THEY HAVE DONE SOME THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS DONE BEFORE. BUT WHAT THEY HAVEN'T DONE, AND WE ARE PART OF IT . THEY HAVE NOT REMOVED THE BEACH CLEANUP WITH LIGHTS. IT JUST SO HAPPENS WE HAVE OVER 30 DISORIENTATION'S WITH SEA TURTLES THIS YEAR. 
          THREE YEARS AGO WHEN IT STARTED WE SAT DOWN WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE AND THE CONDITIONS WERE THE SAME AND THEY ACKNOWLEDGED WE WERE IN VIOLATION . THE COUNTY CERTAINLY WON'T DO IT AND THE CITY WON'T DO IT. BUT THAT IS ULTIMATELY WHAT HAS HAPPENED. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WORLD-CLASS BEACHES, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          SO YOU WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT IT BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE, WHEN WE TALK TO THEM THAT WE DO PROCEED . 
          >> YES, WE ARE ALL NODDING . THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP AND THE LEGISLATIVE REQUEST GOT PUSHED BACK. 
          BUT THE ONE THAT WE COMMITTED TO, THERE ARE PEOPLE WORKING ON THAT AND REACHING OUT. THAT WILL BE A VERY DIFFICULT, 
          JUST TO GET IT MOVING . >> THANK YOU . 
          >> NOTHING THIS EVENING . >> MISS ROSS . 
          >> LET'S MOVE ON. >> BRIEFLY. 
          >> I'VE HEARD THAT WORD BEFORE. >> MR. ROSS. 
          >> I SHOULD MENTION THAT TRINITY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH CELEBRATED 200 YEARS AND IT WAS MARVELOUS TO SEE THE CHURCH RENOVATED AND VIBRANT. IT WAS GREAT. 
          ISLAND HOP BEER FESTIVALS THIS WEEKEND . THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND. 
          A WEEK FROM THIS SATURDAY. PUT IT ON YOUR SCHEDULE. 
          AND WE HAD THE ENDLESS SUMMER WATERMILL RIDE THIS PAST WEEKEND WHICH RAISE $3,300 FOR PUBLIC SAFETY . GOOD FOR THEM. 
          AND CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF FORMER NASSAU COUNTY MANAGER . 
          WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.