Aug 02, 2022 Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> CALLED TO ORDER THE AUGUST 2, 2022 REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION. MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. (ROLL CALL).

>> HOUSEKEEPING PERSONAL DEVICES.

I HAVE HEARD A COUPLE GO OFF IN THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

IF YOU COULD PUT IT ON AIRPLANE SILENT OR TURN THE DEVICE OFF IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THE VICE MAYOR IS BACK WITH US.

AND IN FULL HEALTH. SO TAKE WHATEVER MEASURES, YOU NEED TO TAKE TO PROTECT YOUR HEALTH AND THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OTHERS THAT WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

VICE MAYOR WILL LEAD US THROUGH THE PLEDGE AND REMAIN STANDING

FOR THE INVOCATION. >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> SHOULD WE BOW OUR HEADS.

OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD. WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE HERE TODAY. WE ASK THAT YOU CALM OUR AGES SPIRITS AND REMOVE THE DISTRACTIONS THAT WILL LEAD US HERE TODAY. THE ONLY REALITY WORTH KNOWING THAT YOU LOVE US AS WE ARE. FREE US FOR YOUR CLAIM AND CALL ON OUR LIVES, THIS DAY AND EVER. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, LET EVERY

BELIEVER SAY AMEN. >>

>> GRANARDO FELIX WHY DON'T YOU MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT YOUR

ANNIVERSARY. >> WE ARE SO EXCITED TO HAVE A CHURCH THAT WILL BE CELEBRATING ITS 200TH ANNIVERSARY IN SEPTEMBER 17 AT 5:30 P.M. IT WILL BE A COMMUNITY EVENT OF PRAYERS AND REJOICING, BECAUSE WE COULD NOT HAVE MADE IT THIS FAR WITHOUT THE LORD ON OUR SIDE.

WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING UP AT A LATER DATE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT FACT. WE LOVE YOU AND WE ARE SO GLAD

WE CAN SERVE YOU. >> ALL RIGHT ITEM 4.1

[4.1 PRESENTATION - AMELIA ISLAND CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU]

>> I WILL NOT DO THAT. >> SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR

THE RECORD. >> OKAY.

MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, GOOD AFTERNOON.

WE ARE PLEASED TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THE LATEST IRRITATION -- IMPLICATION OF THIS PROGRAM. WE CONDUCTED AN EXTENSIVE OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE HAD AT LEAST THREE PUBLIC SESSIONS WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS.

OUR SURVEY THAT WE HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING AT OVER 1,000 RESPONSES. SOME WITH HELPFUL SUGGESTIONS FROM THAT DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE HERE TO PRESENT THE LATEST WITH THAT.

I WANT TO ASK ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE START.

>> THIS IS OUR CONSULTING FIRM BASED OUT OF FORT LAUDERDALE.

AND WORLD RENOWNED FOR THE QUALITY OF WORK THAT THEY DO.

WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE THEM HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> KATIE, BROOKLYN NEW YORK. 1125.

>> IT WHILE THAT IS COMING BACK UP.

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BY THE COUNTY AND THE TDC. >> I THINK TODAY WE WANTED TO PRESENT THE PRELIMINARY DRAFT PLANS.

WE DID THE SAME TO THE COMMUNITY ON JULY 19 IN THE OPEN HOUSE FORMAT. WE HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AND OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDERS.

AND WITH THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THESE PLANS THAT WE CAN TAKE INTO THE NEXT PLAN BASED ON THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND THE ONLINE SURVEYS AND THE OUTREACH.

WE ALL TO PRESENT THESE PLANS IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS FOR ANY OF THE FURTHER COMMENT AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU NEED FOR THE BEACH PARKS WITHIN FERNANDINA BEACH.

JUST TOO OVER WHAT THE PROJECT IS.

THE PURPOSE IS TO LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW IT CAN BE ENHANCED AND UPDATED. IN ANY DESIRED.

WERE NOT LOOKING AT A TWO-YEAR OR MATCHMAKER -- A PLAN.

NOT NECESSARILY HOW THIS WILL BE PAID FOR WHICH I KNOW IS A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANT AND WHAT YOU WANT AND WE PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER WITH WHAT IS EXISTING TODAY.

THE NEXT STEPS ARE THE IMPLEMENTATIONS AND THE FINANCING AND THE PROJECT BUILD OUT.

WITH THAT, THE FIRST SLIDE IS SHOWING ABOUT THREE WITHIN THE PARK. AND SEASIDE BEACH PARK.

THE OTHER FOUR ARE PETERS POINT, SCOTT ROAD, AND EVERYTHING WE ARE COVERING AS WELL. JUST TO FRAME OF, HOW I GET BACK GET BACK TO THE SURVEY WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A THEME OF PEDESTRIAN COMFORT BOTH THE CITY AND COUNTY ARE FAMILIAR WITH.

WERE LOOKING AT THESE BASELINE AMENITIES YOU WOULD SEE IN EACH PART. YOU CAN SEE THE FIVE THEMES WE HAVE GIVEN IT SO WE HAVE ASSESS ABILITY AND EDUCATION AND FAMILIES AND PASSIVE AND ACTIVE. EACH OF THE PARKS AREN'T LOOKED AT THROUGH A LENS. ALL PARKS HAVE AMENITIES AND SHELTERS AND WASTE RECEPTACLES AMONGST OTHERS SPIRIT IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE HAVE AS GIL MENTIONED A FEW IN PERSON PRESENTATIONS OR OPEN HOUSES.

WE HAVE GONE OVER RESPONSES WITH OUR SURVEY.

AND THE RESPONSE IS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL BEACH PARKS WHERE WE HAD INDIVIDUAL'S TAKEAWAYS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAND OUT IS THE WISH LIST TO SAY THE PARKS REMAIN AS THEY ARE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY WHILE WE ARE PROVIDING UPGRADES. SOLVED WITH MORE WAYS RECEPTACLES AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A NEED FOR PLANTING AS WELL AS OTHER AMENITIES THAT LOOK AT MORE NATURALIZED PARK ACTIVITIES RATHER THAN ANYTHING THAT IS HARDSCAPE PER SE.

AND A STUDY THAT HAS BEEN DONE OUTSIDE OF THE STUDY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT REMAINS THE SAME.

A LOT OF THESE WERE FOR YOU ALL AND A LITTLE ON THE SMALL AREAS FOR HOW MUCH THEY ARE USED. LASTLY WE COVER THAT BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING AT. TODAY WE WILL FOCUS ON THE THREY BOUNDARIES. THE FIRST IS NORTH BEACH PART.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT EXISTS TODAY WITH A FEW UPGRADES.

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RATHER THAN THE LARGER ONES THAT WOULD BE SHARED.

WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A FEW OF THOSE.

AND ADDING RESTROOMS. THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE PUTTING AS A BASELINE FOR PARKS THAT DON'T HAVE RESTROOMS. RIGHT IN THE CENTER, THE MAIN ENTRY WOULD HAVE A RESTROOM ON EITHER SIDE OF IT. AND THIS WILL HELP WITH STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND THE THINGS THAT BRING IT UP TO CODE.

THE CODE IS REQUIRING THAT YOU HAVE MEDIANS AND ADDING MORE SHADE AND TREE CANOPY TO THE PARKING LOT AS WELL.

LASTLY, THIS IS BEING DONE BY A CONSULTANT.

WE ARE TRYING TO GIVE LOCATIONS TO SHOW WHERE THIS GOES.

WITHOUT SHOWING AND THIS IS THE FLAGPOLE SHOWING THE BEACH, ALL THE BEACHES ARE FOR THAT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

WE DO SHOW AN EXPANSION OF THE BOARDWALK.

THIS DOESN'T NEED TO HAPPEN AS A PRIORITY.

I WILL GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE AND THEN WE WILL GO BACK TO COMMENTS. WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE. I WILL GO THROUGH EACH QUICKLY AND THE COMMENTS WE HEARD. AND THE FIRST ONE IS LOOKING AT WHAT IS EXISTING NOW WITH RENEGOTIATION OF SPACE WHAT WE CALL IT. MOVING THE MULTI USE CORDS AND THE SKATE PARK AND GROUPING THEM TOGETHER FOR SOME OF THE VIEWS LIKE PARKING TOWARDS THE WEBSITE.

THIS IS THE MAIN POINT. WE DO SEE WHERE IT HAS CHANGED ITS SHAPE AND ADDITIONAL PLAY AREA ON THIS PARK AS WELL, AND WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A WET PLAY AREA AND A DRUG PLAY AREA SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE NOW. WE HAVE ALSO ADDED THE FORMALZE WALKWAY BUT WE KEPT THE GREAT MALL AND AS IS LEFT THE BOARDWALK SYSTEM AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

AND WE HAVE RENEGOTIATED SOME OF THE PARKING THIS DOES HAVE A SLIGHT REDUCTION BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE MEDIANS BUT WE HAVE TRIED TO ADD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THE SECOND ONE, THIS IS THE MOST INTENSE THIS HAS TAKEN ON A NEW FORM WHICH WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT IT IS NOT HEAVILY DESIRED.

WE PUT THIS TO THE SIDE AND NOT NECESSARILY CLUSTERED IT WITH THE REST OF THE AMENITIES AND WE HAVE CREATED A CENTRALIZED FEATURE FOR ABOUT HARDSCAPE AREAS AND THE PLAYGROUND AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE MIDDLE THERE.

WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THE EVENTS THAT HAPPEN.

SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS. WE HAVE HEARD THAT MAY NOT BE THE WAY TO GO AND THE BIG TAKEAWAYS FOR THIS ONE AND THUS WHERE ONE WE COMBINE THOSE TWO TO PROVIDE ANOTHER OPTION.

THERE WAS A PUSH FOR A NORTH-SOUTH CONNECTION WE HAVE SHOWN THAT WITH THE EXISTING SYSTEM THAT IS THERE TODAY.

WE HAVE KEPT THE BIGGER PART OF THE LAWN AND YOU CAN SEE THE CHARACTER IMAGE. IT'S REALLY GRASS AND IT IS AS

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WHEN YOU TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE SOMETIMES YOU THINK OF A WET PLAY AREA MAYBE THAT'S A LOT MORE MAINTENANCE AND INVESTMENT AND SOMETIMES IT'S MORE. BUT IT DOES MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR FAMILIES USING THE BEACH.

AND MAYBE THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE TO TAKE THE SMALLER CHILDREN AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE PROPOSING.

WE HEARD THIS IS MORE GATHERING SPACES.

LASTLY I DIDN'T.THIS OUT, YOU HAVE THIS FESTIVAL STREET.

THIS IS NORTH-SOUTH. THIS IS PARKING IN FRONT OF THE AREA NEAR THE HOTEL. THAT IS SOMETHING WE PROVIDED MOVING THROUGHOUT THE PARK AND MAKING SURE IT'S NOT JUST A SEAL PARKING LOT BUT IT HAS A SHAPE PARKING LOT.

JUST TO CLOSE THIS OUT, THE BIGGEST TAKE AWAY WE HEARD, THE SKATE PART AND THAT LOCATION IS NOT REALLY DESIRED.

THE WORRY IS WITH THE SHIFTING OF THE SAN IT IS TO CLOSE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THE LOCATION OF THE PREVIOUS PLAN EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T LIKE THIS PLANT THEY THOUGHT THIS LOCATION WORKED AS WELL. AND A LOT HAVE SAID THEY LIKE WHERE IT IS EXPANDING NORTH. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHANGES WE WILL LOOK FOR AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE WILL TAKE COMMENT AT THE END THIS. THE LAST ONE, THIS IS NORTH BEACH PARK AND A FEW MORE PAVILIONS.

WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED WORKING WITH THE OTHER CONSULTANT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THIS PARK DOES NOT HAVE A LOT OF PARKING OPTIONS. IT IS NEARBY BUT DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY CHARLIE IT IS STILL WALKABLE.

WE HAVE HEARD OTHERS THAT SAY THEY DON'T LIKE THAT IT IS PARALLEL PARKING OVER THE EDGES. THIS IS THE MOVEMENT OF CARS THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND OBVIOUSLY IT WILL BE BACKED UP WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE USING THE PARK BUT PEOPLE CAN MOVE TO THE SIDE AND CONTINUE ON TO FIND A PARKING SPOT, THAT IS THE IDEA.

AND LASTLY WE HAVE LOOKED AT A MULTI USE PLAZA WHERE THIS ACCESS IS NOW. WE HEARD THIS MAY BE TOO MUCH FOR THIS AREA IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT WHAT PAYMENTS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT ONES. WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF SAND MOVEMENT AS WELL. THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL LOOK INTO A LITTLE MORE BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE SHOWING PARALLEL PARKING WITH POP-UP SEATING OPTIONS. I THINK THAT IS THE IDEA FOR THESE THREE PARKS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO INTO DETAIL OR ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

I THINK OVERALL ANY COMMENTS WE CAN'T TAKE FORWARD AND PUT INTO THE FINAL PLANS AND BALANCE THAT WITH WHAT WE HAVE HEARD BEFORE, BUT WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

>> COMMISSIONERS. >> THANK YOU.

YOU SAID EARLIER WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL PROVIDE BASELINE COST ESTIMATES. HOW MUCH WOULD IT TAKE TO PUT IT IN. AND THAT WILL BE WITH THE FINAL DRAFT BASED ON WHAT AMENITIES ARE WANTED.

>> WHEN YOU SAY PROVIDE, YOU WOULD TELL US HOW MUCH IT WILL

COST. >> WE HAVE A CONSULTANT WHO WILL GIVE A HIGH LEVEL ESTIMATE FOR EVERYTHING WE ARE PROPOSING.

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>> JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, YOUR SCOPE OF THE PROJECT IS DESIGNING LATER ON IT COULD BE -- TANGIBLE USUALLY WHEN WE DO A PLAN, YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WANT AND WHAT UPGRADES NEED TO BE MADE. THE ADDITIONAL THINGS, YOU PUT THAT IN TO THIS EXERCISE WHICH WE KNOW THE COST OF EVERYTHING IS ALL OVER THE PLACE. WITH THAT, BUT NEXT PHASE WOULD BE TO WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.

WHO WANTS TO PAY FOR WHAT AND LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE GRANTS.

BUT WE ARE GIVING YOU THE BASELINE.

BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A DETAILED ESTIMATE DONE.

>> FINALLY, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT, YOU DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS ON WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE.

YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE WITH YOU? ESSENTIALLY, WHAT IS THE NAME? WOULD FERNANDINA BEACH BEYOND THEIR QUICKSAND WE HAVE HEARD THAT, AND THERE IS A CONSULTANT WORKING ON WHAT THE SIGNS LOOK LIKE. BUT THE PROPOSAL WE ARE PUTTING FORWARD, IS WHAT WE HAVE HEARD, THAT YOU WOULD WANT WHETHER IT IS THE COUNTY OR THE CITY OR THE CITY CALLED OUT.

>> THANK YOU. >> VICE MAYOR.

>> YOU KNOW I AM ON THE BOARD. WHAT I HAVE SAID I SAID AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING. NUMBER ONE, TO CITY COMMISSION WILL ACTUALLY MAKE THE APPROVAL OF ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY. AS OF THE MEETING YESTERDAY.

YOU WERE AT THE MEETING. THE ONE BEFORE, THE CITY WOULD MANAGE THE PROCESS. AND YESTERDAY THEY HAD NO ISSUE WITH HAPPIER WITH THE MONEY, IT'S INTERESTING WHEN THIS PROCESS STARTED, THEIR PRIORITY, AND IT HAS BEEN SAID AT MANY MEETINGS. THIS REMAINS LOW PRIORITY.

IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THERE IS OVER $1 MILLION OF WHICH $442 WAS SPENT WHICH IS A SURPLUS. SO, THAT MONEY, THIS HAS ACCELERATED ENOUGH THE QUESTION IS, THIS IS A TEN TO 20 YEAR PLAN. THIS IS A LONG-TERM PLAN.

I WILL CLARIFY WHAT YOU SAID. WE HAVE MADE THE CASE AND CONSISTENTLY MADE A CASE, HOPEFULLY WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE DESIGN. I'M SURE THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF DISCUSSION. MANY,.

>> WE HAVE LOOKED INTO THAT. WE HAVE MADE SURE WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS QUALITY-OF-LIFE AS WELL AS THE BALANCE OF NATURE WHICH IS THE BIG. AND LASTLY, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT NORTH BEACH AND SEASIDE THEY ARE STAYING AS IS.

WE ARE PROPOSING ADDITIONAL BOARDWALKS BUT THAT IS WHEN GROWTH IS NEEDED. WE UNDERSTAND THEY NEED DIFFERENT THINGS. WE WOULD NOT EXPECT YOU TO EXPAND THE BOARDWALK BEFORE YOU REPLACE OTHERS.

>> AND THE LAST THING, EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER WE HAVE SHARED WITH EVERYONE.

SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU MENTIONED HAVE BEEN PASSED ALONG.

EVERYTHING WE'VE HEARD, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT THE DRAFT PARKING PLAN AND THE STUDY DONE FOR THE COUNTY WE HAVE TRIED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHERE IT FITS IN.

>> YOU HAVE A PLAN SHOWING DIFFERENT POP-UP PAVILIONS.

THAT IS WHAT MOST OF THE SURVEYS SHOW.

>> ONE AT THE BOTTOM IS A LARGE ONE AT THE BOTTOM?

>> WE UNDERSTAND MOST PEOPLE WANTED THE SMALLER ONES BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ADD A LITTLE BIT OF DIVERSITY.

WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS A MORE COMMUNITY-BASED SO THE ONE IN

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PAVILION. >> THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A RESTROOM CURRENTLY?

>> WITHIN THE CITY. >> SO YOU WILL ADD ANOTHER BOARDWALK THAT SPELLED LONG-TERM PLAN.

ONE IS A RAMP AND ONE IS A REGULAR BOARDWALK?

>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ACCESSIBILITY IS THE THING AND IT IS ASSESSABLE FROM THE PARKING LOT TO LOT TO THE BEACH.

WE HAVE NOT NECESSARILY SAID IF THIS WILL BE A RAMP OR NOT.

BUT IT WILL MATCH THE OTHER ONE. I WILL SAY ONE COMMENT WE DID GET, MAYBE IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE THIS 90-DEGREE ANGLE.

MAY BE JUST WITH WEATHER PATTERNS AND IT IS AT AN ANGLE.

SO, THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING INTO.

WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE DUNES.

WERE NOT TRYING TO RUIN THE DUNES NOR DO WE WANT TO DO TOO MUCH ENCROACHMENT. WE WANT TO GIVE RESIDENTS THE SPECIFIC PARTS TO USE A SET OF TRAMPLING OVER THE DUNES.

>> IF YOU LOOK BOTH SIDES, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DESIGNS WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE BATHROOM, AND THE FLOWS.

DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT SOMEONE WANTED ANOTHER BATHROOM

IN ANOTHER LOCATION. >> WE DID RECEIVE 1,000 RESPONSES. WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER THE FINAL REPORT. THE MAIN TAKE AWAY WAS MORE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OF WHAT IS THERE RATHER THAN EXPANSION.

I DO THINK IT DOES MAKE SENSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LOCATION OF BUILDINGS, THE UTILITY STRUCTURES.

THERE ARE THERE FOR LUNCH SAFETY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ANY OTHER STRUCTURE NEEDED FOR THOSE PURPOSES ARE PROVIDED. I THINK THERE IS ROOM TO EXPAND, IF IT WAS SOMETHING PUSHED BY THE COMMUNITY TO EXPAND RESTROOMS. IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER.

>> THAT IS THE ONLY ONE I THINK BECAUSE OF THE SIDES OF IT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE GO THERE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE USE A.

I SEE YOU HAVE EXTRA PARKING. WHERE DOES IT MOVE IN THIS PLAN?

>> IT IS WRAPPING AROUND. THE BIG PUSH WAS TO GRIP PUT THE PROGRAM TOGETHER SO YOU HAVE A BETTER VIEW WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE AMENITIES BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND WITH IT BEING SO CLOSE TO THE WATER MAYBE THAT IS NOT THE BEST OBJECTIVE.

WERE DOING A DOING A FOURTH ITERATION AND THAT WILL BE MOVED BACK TO ITS CURRENT LOCATION OR BACK TO THE CORNER APPEAR.

>> IS THAT A NEW BUILDING NEXT TO THE SKATE PARK?

RIGHT THERE. >> THAT ALREADY EXISTS.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE DEAL WITH PARKING ALL OF THE TIME.

YOU WANT THEM TO BE AS CLOSE TO THE DESTINATION AS POSSIBLE.

YOU ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PROGRAM DOES HAVE THE BEST VIEW OR ACCESS. THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T PUT PARKING NEAR. IT VARIES AND YOU CAN SEE IT VARIES A LITTLE BIT. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL

TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I WILL NOT TO BE DOCTOR DOOM. >> WE HAVE MET AND I HAVE TALKED MY CONCERN IS WE ARE PUTTING IN MORE INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT REPLACEMENT AND MAINTENANCE.

AND REMEMBER IT IS THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.

THIS IS FOR TOURISTS. TO GET THEM TO PAY FOR IT.

WE WANT TO SEEK OUT THIS WILL SUPPORT THE TOURIST.

THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT PUTTING IN MORE BOARDWALKS AND MORE THINGS AND HOW DO YOU TAKE CARE OF IT.

MY MAJOR CONCERN. MY MAJOR CONCERN ABOUT WHAT WE

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I KNOW IT IS OUT OF YOUR SCOPE. >> CAN I RESPOND TO THAT?

>> QUICKLY, THAT GOES BACK TO THE RESTROOM THING AND THE BOARDWALK ASPECT AS ONE OF THE REASONS THE BOARD IS NOT PROPOSING ANOTHER RESTROOM WE ARE TRYING TO FACTOR IN THE MAINTENANCE. MOST ARE ASKING FOR INCREASED SPACE. THIS LEAVES US TO BELIEVE MAYBE WE SHOULD NOT PROVIDE ANOTHER RESTROOM AT THIS TIME.

IN TERMS OF THE BOARDWALK, WE WANT TO BALANCE WITH THIS OPTION OF CHANGING THE SYSTEM AS IT WILL BE AN INCREASE COST WITH WHAT WE CAN DO NOW AND HOW CAN WE UPGRADE WHAT IS THERE NOW.

I DON'T THINK IT SOLVES THE ISSUE, BUT I DO WANT THE COMMISSIONERS IN PUBLIC TO KNOW WE HAVE FACTORED THAT INTO THAT

THE PROPOSED MAINTENANCE COSTS. >> AND THE FINAL COMMENT IS PARKING. THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE FOR PARKING. YOU WILL EITHER TAKE AWAY OPEN SPACE OR PARKING. I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT TO PAY.

SO, WHAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THIS AND I KNOW IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF YOUR BEING, HOW DO YOU MANAGE PARKING.

PREVIOUSLY WE SAW IT DOES NOT WORK FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

PARKING IS A MAJOR PART OF THIS. AND THERE SO MORE PLACES TO PUT

PARKING. >> ONE LAST COMMENT.

WHEN YOU HAVE AN AMPHITHEATER LIKE THIS, POINTING THIS WAY, EVERY RESIDENT DOWN HERE WILL BE UNHAPPY.

THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS AND I APPRECIATE YOU

LISTENING TO MY CONCERNS. >> WEIRD DEFINITELY HERE TO LISTEN. WE WANT A PLAN THAT WILL WORK.

WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE STIPULATIONS BUT WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE OTHER THINGS.

THAT IS WHY EVEN GETTING BACK TO PARKING WE DON'T HAVE THE SOLUTION WE SAW BULL TRAP PARKING STUDY AND WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED AS MANY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WE CAN WHERE WE SEE FIT. BUT WE HAVE PRIORITIZED MAINTAINING AS MUCH PARK SPACE AS POSSIBLE.

THE BIGGEST THING WE HAVE LEARNED, THEY WANT TO SEE THE PARKING STAY AS IS. THE EXISTING NUMBERS AND WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT AT SOME OF THE PARKS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO ADD THE MEETINGS. SO WE DO LOSE PARKING SPACE

THERE. >> EVERY SATURDAY MY WIFE AND I GO AROUND THE PARKING LOT. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A YEAR END A HALF. SO, ONE OF THE THINGS -- IT'S

ACTUALLY KIND OF FUN. >> TO EACH THEIR OWN.

>> WHAT BETTER THING CAN YOU DO WITH YOUR WIFE.

PEOPLE PARK UP HERE ALL OF THE TIME.

THE CITY OWNS THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU COULD CONSIDER IS PUTTING MORE PARKING IN HERE.

AND THIS, SATURDAY AFTERNOON IS OFTEN FULL.

THAT IS A CONCERN BUT YOU COULD THINK ABOUT MORE PARKING THERE.

>> WE HAVE FACTORED THAT INTO OUR PLAN.

WE HAVE LEARNED IT IS A POTENTIAL KNOWING THE CITY OWNS THE PARCEL. THESE ARE 10-15 YOUR PLANS PRETTY FAR OUT. AND SHOWING THAT WILL BE FADED BACK BUT IT WILL SHOW US THIS AS AN OPTION.

>> IT IS ACTUALLY A CHEAP FIX. BUT CITY DOESN'T OWN THIS IT'S OWNED BY THE CITY OF FLORIDA. WE DO ON THE OTHER PARCEL.

>> THAT IS THE FLORIDA COMMUNITY TRUST PARK.

>> COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU MAYOR.

I WOULD JUST LEAVE IT ON. >> I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF MORE

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AS WELL AS, I BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF GOLF CART PARKING BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE AN AREA THAT IS ALLOTTED FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GOLF CARTS AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND PEOPLE WHO RENT GOLF CARTS WOULD HAVE AN AREA TO PARK AND THEY COULD GET TO THE BEACH AND THEY COULD USE THE AREA INSTEAD OF THEIR VEHICLE TO GET TO THE BEACH WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD OPTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PUT THAT IN.

>> THAT IS DEFINITELY A GOOD CONSIDERATION.

>> PEOPLE ARE USING THEM AND BUYING THEM, IT IS GIVING AND GETTING MORE POPULAR. IF I LOOK AT THIS PLAN, WHERE IS

THE SKATE PARK IN THE NEXT PLAN. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD SEE

THIS HERE. >> THAT IS IN THE MAIN GRASS

AREA? >> IS TAKING ON A NEW AREA.

WE HAVE EXPANDED AND SHIFTED THIS OVER.

THIS ITERATION WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW WHAT COULD BE A PARKING GARAGE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTED. WE HEARD IT WAS NOT SOMETHING SUPPORTED AND WE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THEY'VE LOOKED INTO. IT WAS JUST AN OPTION AND THROW ALL OF THE OPTIONS OUT THERE. BUT YES, THIS OPTION WAS

IMPAIRED. >> OTHER THAN THE BOARDWALK COULD CONNECT, THE TWO SQUARES, I AM SURE THE ONES WITH THE ACTIVITY, WHAT ARE THE TWO SQUARES SPIRIT.

>> THAT IS A PLAYGROUND. AND IN THE MIDDLE IS THE MULTI USE COURT. THIS IS MORE CENTRAL AND THE COURTS ARE OVER BY WHERE THAT SKATE PARKS ARE CURRENTLY.

WE WANTED TO HAVE THE ACTIVITY TOGETHER AND PROVIDED AN AREA

WITH MORE GRASS. >> YOU HAVE A MAIN ROAD THAT GOES OUT. YOU ALREADY HAVE TWO ONE-WAY ROADS WITH PARKING IN THE MIDDLE ALONG THE STREET RIGHT HERE.

HERE WE ARE PUTTING IN A GREEN CORE DOOR AND WE DO SHOW THAT.

WE LIKE THE CONNECTION AND HOW IT GOES INTO THE END.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE ARE THINKING ABOUT.

HOW CAN PEOPLE ACCESS THIS, AND THIS IS THERE SO SOMEONE NEEDS TO PARK FURTHER AWAY THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DROP EVERYTHING AND KEEP MOVING AND NOT NECESSARILY HOLD UP TRAFFIC.

>> YOU HAVE GREAT IDEAS IS JUST A MATTER OF HOW WE AS A CITY WOULD TONE IT DOWN. I KNOW IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO DO ANY ONE OF THESE PLANS. BUT THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> I WANTED TO COMMENT AND THIS MAY BE OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE BUT IT SHOULD BE IN THE SCOPE.

THIS IS THE MAINTENANCE COST. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHARTER, THE BEACH INFRASTRUCTURE WE ARE PAYING FOR THIS.

THERE IS NO JUSTIFIABLE REASON THAT IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS THERE

ISN'T MONEY SET ASIDE. >> I DON'T THINK WE NECESSARILY SAW. WE WILL NOTE THAT.

I WILL PASS IT ALONG. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR BEING

HERE AND PRESENTING,. >> ITEM NUMBER FIVE PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

AND I DON'T HAVE ANY FORMS. I SPOKE TOO SOON.

I BELIEVE THIS IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> WHEN WE GET TO THIS PART. WE WILL PUT IT UP.

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>> IS THERE ANY OTHER MEMBER IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON A TOPIC NOT ON THE AGENDA.

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEM NUMBER SIX, CONSENT AGENDA. >> I WANT TO PULL 6.4.

>> OKAY HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MADAME CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

(ROLL CALL). >> FED PASS 5-0.

[6.4 BUDGET AMENDMENT - CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND]

>> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> HAVE A MOTION INTO SECOND PERIOD.

>> I WANTED TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS THIS I THINK WE SHOULD DISCUSS THIS AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO REVIEW WHAT HAPPENED.

THIS STARTED OUT AS A MAINTENANCE PROJECT.

AND IT WASN'T PERMITTED WITHIN THE CITY.

SO AS IT PROGRESSED, I AM SURE YOU SAW, I REMEMBER THE E-MAILS ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH TREE PROTECTION.

THAT ALL DID OCCUR. YOU SAW THE PICTURE.

AS A RESULT OF THAT. AFTER-THE-FACT OR THROUGH THE FACT THAT THINK THEY RECOGNIZE THERE WERE SOME ISSUES AND THEY MOVED TO CORRECT THIS. IF YOU GO YOU WILL SEE SOME PROTECTIVE MEASURES. THIS IS JUST TO SAY, ONE OF THE COMMENTS IS THAT WE WERE NOT FOLLOWING OUR OWN PROCEDURES.

I THINK WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

WE NEED TO VIEW EVERYTHING, AND IT SHOWS NOW.

IT HAS MORE COMPREHENSIVE IN SPIRIT.

>> I SPOKE TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL TO ME ABOUT TWO DAYS AGO. FOR ALL OF THE BUILDERS.

THEY HAD SHOWING TELL, AND HE HAD A MEETING ABOUT IT.

ANNIE WENT OVER AND THAT ON OUT TO PROTECT THE TREE AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS CONTRACTORS. HE'S FOLLOWING THROUGH AND THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO TOOK NOTES AND I WENT OVER IT WITH HIM AND I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IT. SO I AM UP TO SPEED ON IT MYSELF. IT'S A GOOD THING TO FOLLOW THROUGH. AND THEY HAD A WHOLE TEACHING SESSION. IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT

DIRECTION. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE. MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> THAT PAST 5-0.

[7.1 PURCHASE APPROVAL - FIRE DEPARTMENT]

DEPARTMENT. >> YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU RESOLUTION TO AND DECAY TO REPLACE THE CURRENT LETTER FOR TRUCK. THE ESTIMATED COST IS $1.2 MILLION. YOU WILL NOT SEEN FAT IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE 14-60 MONTHS TO GET THE EQUIPMENT AND WE WON'T MAKE A PAYMENT UNTIL THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR. BUT WE DO HAVE TO PROPOSE.

ABOUT RECOMMENDED OPTION FOR PURCHASING IS A NINE YEAR FINANCING OPTION. AND THAT AMOUNTS TO APPROXIMATELY $170,000 PER YEAR IN DEBT SERVICE WHICH WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD STARTING NEXT YEAR.

>> I HAVE A MOTION NANOSECOND. >> THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.

>> THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK WITH YOU.

[00:45:13]

>> I AM FORTUNATE ENOUGH AND I HAVE LIVED IN THIS DISTRICT FOR ALMOST 20 PLUS YEARS. MY INTEREST IS MY HOUSE IS ALMOST 45-FOOT LONG. OF A LIVING SPACE SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR THEN SOMEONE IN THERE MYSELF, MY DAUGHTER, WHO KNOWS WILL NEED A WAY OUT.

WE HAVE A PREPLANNED ACTIVITY AND SMOKE DETECTORS AND FIRE ALARMS. WE HAVE THAT STUFF.

IF THERE IS A NEED, THE CITY NEEDS A LADDER TRUCK TO GET THERE. I THINK IT IS GREAT USE OF OUR TAX MONEY TO SUPPORT THIS CAUSE. IT IS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WILL GLASS THE CITY. IT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN BUY EVERY DAY. IT IS EXPENSIVE.

BUT THE VALUE ON THIS EQUIPMENT CAN'T BE MEASURED.

IT IS GREAT THAT THE CITY IS PUSHING THIS FORWARD AND I WENT APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONERS FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THIS

PARTICULAR PROJECT. >> DO YOU THINK YOU COULD

ADDRESS THE ISSUE. >> SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN A TILE -- TALL HOUSE. IF IT IS HERE, I WOULD SAY A 2-3

MINUTE RESPONSE TIME. >> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. >>

>> I WON'T SUPPORT THIS. THERE IS A NEW TRUCK AND WE DO HAVE A MUTUAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY.

I THINK IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE LOOK AT IT AS A PUBLIC SAFETY.

FOR THAT REASON I WON'T VOTE FOR THIS SPIRIT THIS CAME UP ON THE HORIZON MONTHS AGO. INITIALLY COME AND LIVE THAT IS NECESSARY. I WAS NOT CONVINCED WE NEEDED A

NEW TRUCK. >> I TALKED TO SOME FIRE PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET I READ A BUNCH OF STUFF I THINK IT WAS ESSENTIAL. WELL LADDER TRUCKS ARE USED FOR A LOT OF THINGS. THEY ARE NOT JUST USE FOR A HIVE BUILDING. THEY COULD BE USING APRIL FIRE OR ANY SHIP FIRE. WE HAVE ONE FIRE PER WEEK IN THE CITY THAT THEY RESPOND TO ON AVERAGE.

AND I THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAVE SAID THESE ARE THE TOOLS WE NEED TO DO OUR JOB. WE ALL TALK ABOUT THE CONFIDENCE WE HAVE IN OUR STAFF AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, YET WHEN THEY COME TO US AND SAY WE NEED THIS TO MAKE YOU SAFE, YOU ARE FOUNDING THEIR WORD. I'M NOT ATTACKING YOU PERSONAL.

THIS IS WHERE WE PROVIDE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE NUMBER ONE THING PEOPLE WANT.

THEY WANT THE POLICE TO MAKE THEM SAY.

THAT IS OUR NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY.

WHEN STAFF COMES TO US AND SAY THIS EQUIPMENT WE FEEL IS ESSENTIAL, WE NEED TO REPLACE THIS, I THINK THEY NEED FOR SUPPORT. THE ONE THING I WILL.OUT, THIS WILL INCREASE -- THE NEXT QUESTION IS HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT. I KNOW EVERYTHING IS WONDERFUL AND PERFECT, BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET IS SIX-POINT $1 MILLION THIS YEAR. YOU CAN'T HAVE THE RIGHT OR COME

[00:50:07]

THEN YOU SAY HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THIS.

>> I AGREE. AND WE HAVE ONE THAT DOESN'T FUNCTION, IT'S OVERDUE TO BE REPLACED.

I THINK THE COUNTY DID COME OUT, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE COUNTY COMING OUT AND SUPPORTING US.

I WOULD JUST HATE TO BE THE ONE IF THE COUNTY DID NOT RESPOND AND THE CHILD WAS TO DIE. OUR NUMBER ONE SERVICE AT THIS JOB IS PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THE TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT BRING THAT TO US IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. EVERYTHING ELSE WE CAN CUT BACK IN CERTAIN AREAS IF WE HAD TO. WE WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THAT.

IF THEY ARE VIABLE OR USABLE. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND I THINK IT IS A NECESSARY TOOL THAT THE FIREMEN DO EVERY DAY.

NOT EVERY DAY DOES THAT FIRE TRUCK IT USED.

BUT I CAN REMEMBER AS A KID, I WATCHED A FIRE TRUCK GO OUT AND SAVE A POINT SLIGHT. THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD GET TO THEM, WAS SICK A LADDER TRUCK OUT, AND THE LATTER WOULD BE REMOVED. THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS YOU CAN USE THE TRUCK. IT JUST DOES NOT REQUIRE GOING TO THE HIGHEST POINT. ANYWAYS, I AM SUPPORTING IT.

>> I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE PROCEDURES.

THE COUNTY'S NOT DOING IT BECAUSE THEY'RE NICE.

WE HAVE TO REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM.

I AM VOTING NO. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE PROCEDURES AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A CORRECTION WE CAN'T FIX IT BECAUSE IT IS SO OLD.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> I AM VOTING YES.

MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS. >> CITY MANAGER, CAN WE HEAR

FROM THE FIRE CHIEF? >> YES.

>> >> GOOD EVENING, FIRE CHIEF,

CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH BRICK. >> CAN YOU ADDRESS THE PRESENCE OF A TRUCK ON THE SOUTH END OF THE ISLAND.

>> YES, THERE IS A LADDER TRUCK. AND JUST LIKE ANY MECHANICAL APPARATUS, ANY VEHICLE THAT IS BRAND-NEW CAN END UP IN THE

SHOP. >> THE CITY HAS A LADDER TRUCK THAT IS OVER 21-YEARS-OLD. IT HAS BEEN OUT OF SERVICE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS, MAYBE LONGER. WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING POINTS. WE DO HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE COUNTY. WE ALSO RETURN BACK TO THEM.

IF WE HAD, IF THERE LADDER TRUCK IS TIED UP WHICH WE KNOW THEY HAVE A LOT OF NEW GROWTH ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND THEY DO NOT HAVE A LADDER TRUCK ACROSS THE BRIDGE THAT WOULD LEAVE.

AND BELL FIRE DEPARTMENT IS YOUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE FOR CERVICAL PRESERVATION. AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT DOWNTOWN IS. WE ALL KNOW ABOUT MR. ROLAND

[00:55:01]

SO, THEY DO REQUIRE THAT ADDITIONAL TYPE OF APPARATUS THAT WE CAN'T PROVIDE WITH A NORMAL ENGINE.

THE CITY HAS HAD ONE FOR OVER 20 YEARS, AND IT IS TO THE POINT WHERE THAT TRUCK IS NONSERVICEABLE AND NOT SAFE.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND YOU CLEARLY.

THE ONE LADDER TRUCK BOOK COUNTY HAS IS THE ONLY LADDER TRUCK.

>> IS THE ONLY ONE IN NASSAU COUNTY.

>> CAN YOU ALSO TELL ME ABOUT THE SHIP FIRE AT THE PORT, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT AND YOU WERE TELLING ME HOW YOU HAD THE APPARATUS YOU USE IN ORDER TO GET IT.

>> WITH THIS NATURALLY IT WAS MULTI IT WILL BE CONSIDERED A MULTISTORY TYPE BUILDING. AND WE HAD TO ACTUALLY PULL HOSE LINES WITH FIREFIGHTERS UP TO THE SHIP DECK.

AND WE HAD TO FASHION THOSE TWO RAILING TO BE ABLE TO PULL WATER INTO THE WHOLE OF THE SHIP. WE REQUESTED THE TRUCK TO RESPOND AND THAT GAVE US THE ABILITY TO PUT WATER UP OVER THE TOP OF THE FIRE. AS COMMISSIONER ROSS MENTIONED, LADDER TRUCKS ARE NOT JUST FOR REACHING PEOPLE AND TALL BUILDINGS. THEY ARE FOR GETTING WATER ABOVE FIRES BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET TO THEM FROM UNDERNEATH GOING INSIDE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT PROVIDES A LOT OF SAFETY FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE BUILDINGS THAT ARE UNSTABLE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT WATER ON FROM ABOVE RATHER THAN PUTTING PEOPLE'S LIVES IN DANGER.

>> THAT IS ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS I WILL ECHO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

WHEN THEY ASKED FOR EQUIPMENT WE NEED TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT EQUIPMENT. SO IF IT'S IMPORTANT IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS.

WITH THAT MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[7.2 AWARD OF ITB 22-21 - NATURAL LANDSCAPING OF JAX INC.]

>> (ROLL CALL). >> A CARRIES 4-1.

THE NEXT LINE. >> THE CITY PUBLISHED AN THEY HAVE A BID FOR THIS. CITY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THIS ANNUAL AWARD BE PROVIDED. THE INTENT IS TO DO IT ON A BIWEEKLY BASIS AS INDICATED ON THE STAFF REPORT.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SORRY, I WAS LOOKING AT MY AGENDA. I WILL DO THIS IN ALPHABETICAL

ORDER. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS WERE DOING.

THIS IS AN EXCELLENT CASE OF RESTRUCTURING THE CITY.

NO ONE IS LOSING THEIR JOBS HERE.

THIS IS BEING PLACED IN A DIFFERENT AREA.

THE GREAT NEWS IS WE ARE REDUCING OUR HEADCOUNT BY TWO.

THAT IS AMAZING AND WERE WORKING HARD TO DOING THAT.

I WANT TO COMPLEMENT THE CITY STAFF FOR HIRING A LAWN SERVICE

WILL THANK YOU. >> I THINK, IT HAS EXCELLENT POTENTIAL, AND I SPOKE TO SCOTT AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE, WE HAVE TWO EXCELLENT WORKERS WERE GETTING REASSIGNED. WE COULD PROBABLY USE THEIR SKILLS AS MUCH OR BETTER. WHEN YOU OUTSOURCE YOU HAVE TO

[01:00:01]

AS LONG AS WE SENT UP TO IT. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THIS IS A PERFECT WAY TO CUT ON BUT HEADCOUNT AND TO USE THE ABILITIES WE HAVE EVER CITY, AND IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE PRODUCTION AS A SUBCONTRACTED CREW THEY CAN BE FIRED OR WHAT WE STIPULATE AND WE CAN EITHER ANOTHER GROUP.

IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS A WIN-WIN SITUATION.

IT GIVES LOVE PARK AND REC MORE ABILITY TO WORK ON THE PARK

OTHER THAN THE CEMETERY. >> I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING THIS FOR PRE-FOUR YEARS. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAN.

>> WITH THAT, MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

TAKE (ROLL CALL) IT PASSES 5-0. ALL RIGHT ITEM EIGHT.

[8.1 CODE AMENDMENT - TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES]

>> ORDINANCE 2022 -- 23 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA BY AMENDING CHAPTER 78, TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES, BY AMENDING SECTION 78-1, BY REMOVING UNUSED DEFINITIONS AND CLARIFY DEFINITIONS.

BY AMENDING SECTION 78 -- TWO TO INCORPORATE LANGUAGE FROM OTHER SECTIONS RELATING TO AUTHORITY TO REGULATE AND PENALTIES, BY AMENDING SECTION 78 -- THREE CLARIFYING LANGUAGE BY AMENDING SECTION 78 -- FOUR, FUNERAL PROCESSIONS, BY RESERVING SECTIONS 78 -- FIVE THROUGH 78 -- 40, BY AMENDING SECTION 7O CLARIFY LANGUAGE BY AMENDING SECTION 78 -- 42 TO CLARIFY LANGUAGE, BY AMENDING SECTION 7S WHERE SKATEBOARDING IS PROHIBITED, BY AMENDING SECTION 78 -- 44 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO LIMIT IDLING AND PARKING ON CERTAIN STREETS AND PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES, BY AMENDING SECTION 78 -- 45 REMOVING A DEFINITION, BY AMENDING SECTION 78 -- 71 TO CLARIFY LANGUAGE, BY AMENDING SECTION 70 -- 72 RELATING TO IMPOUNDMENT OF ILLEGALLY PARKED VEHICLES, BY AMENDING SECTION 7O CLARIFY LANGUAGE, BY AMENDING SECTION 78 -- 90 REMOVING THE RESTRICTION STARTED PARKED CARS, BY RHEA NUMBERING SECTION 78 -- 91 AND 70 -- 92 AND AMENDING THE FINES FOR PARKING VIOLATIONS.

RESERVING SECTION 78 -- 92 REPEALING ARTICLE THREE, DIVISION II, PARKING METERS IN ITS ENTIRETY AND RESERVING SECTION 78 -- 101 -- 110, REPEALING ARTICLE FOR TOWING REGULATIONS IN ITS ENTIRETY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THE HIGHLIGHTS, THERE ARE A LOT OF CHANGES AS YOU LOOK THROUGH THE DOCUMENT ITSELF, BUT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THESE. THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE CHANGES HERE. THIS IS A WORKING COMMITTEE AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE THAT THE VICE MAYOR KRIEGER ASKED THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IF WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE CODE AND TRY TO CLARIFY LANGUAGE. THIS IS CHAPTER 78 IS OF MONSTER. IN COLLABORATION WITH THE PAGES AND WHICH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND THE ORDINANCE COMMITTEE WE CAME UP WITH THIS SPIRIT WE REMOVED A LOT OF UNUSED DEFINITION AND LEGALESE. THIS REPEALS THE PARKING METER IN LANGUAGE WHICH WE DO NOT NEED.

EVEN IF WE HAD PAID PARKING ONE DAY WE KNOW KIOSK AND OTHER MOBILE APPS ARGUES. THIS REPEALS THE ARTICLE ON TOWING REGULATIONS FOR TOW TRUCKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE REALLY DO NOT REGULATE IT AT ALL, BUT COUNTY DOES BAD. THIS INCREASE IS A PARKING AND TRAFFIC CITATION. TRAFFIC MEANING NONMOVING VIOLATIONS FROM $25 SUITS BACK $50.

[01:05:03]

FOR EXAMPLE. IDLING.

AND IDLING SEMI TRUCK AND FRONT OF A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.

IF THE CITY MANAGER DESIGNATES THAT IT IS NOT GOOD THEN HE CAN PUT THAT INTO WRITING AND SAY NO IDLING BETWEEN CERTAIN TIMES OR AT ALL. QUESTIONS.

>> I NEED A MOTION. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> HAVE A MOTION A SECOND PERIOD DISCUSSION AND THE LIGHT THAT

CAME ON FIRST SPIRIT. >> MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THIS FOR ME IS THE INCREASING PARKING FEE.

THIS GOES BACK TO THE STORY FROM EARLIER WE CAN ISSUE PARKING TICKETS BUT THEY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING AT $25.

I THINK $50 IS A MORE APPROPRIATE NUMBER AND $25 WAS SET WAS 1991. IF YOU LOOK AT INFLATION OVER 30 YEARS, THIS IS PROBABLY, DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR CHEAPER THAN THEY HAD IT IN 1991 SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I THINK IT IS TIME TO INCREASE THE FEE SO THEY CAN HAVE THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO ENFORCE PARKING.

>> I WAS GOING TO MENTION, A 50-DOLLAR PARKING FEE.

>> EVERYONE IS TAKING MY THUNDER THIS EVENING.

I WAS GOING TO HOLD MY HAND UP AND SAY THIS WAS $50.

COME ON DOWN. ALL RIGHT, I'M DONE.

>> ANY OTHERS. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> OKAY. TAKE (ROLL CALL).

[9. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

>> IT PASSES 5-0. ALL RIGHT, ITEM NINE CITY

MANAGER REPORTS. >> THANK YOU, NOT MUCH TO REPORT TONIGHT BUT AS YOU ARE AWARE WE HAVE SEVERAL MEETINGS SCHEDULED INCLUDING A BUDGET WORKSHOP TOMORROW EVENING AND IF NECESSARY ANOTHER ONE ON THURSDAY EVENING.

AND BASED UPON SOME OF THE COMMENTS, WE WILL BE AT THE CITY THE FOLLOWING WEEK, BUT THE MONDAY WE RETURN THE MAJOR MAY ADDRESS THIS IN HIS COMMENTS, FOLLOWING THE LAST ONE THEY HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CHAIRMN AND THEY HAVE SCHEDULED AT THE NEXT ADVISORY BOARD, THE MAYOR AS INDICATED, HE WILL CALL A SPECIAL MEETING. THAT WILL BE A JOINT MEETING ON MONDAY AUGUST 15 AT 6:00 P.M. AND WE WILL PUBLISH AN AGENDA FOR THAT. AND AGAIN I WILL LEAVE IT TO THE MAYOR TO DISCUSS THE RATIONALE BUT I THINK IT'S BASED ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING.

PENDING ANY QUESTIONS THAT'S ALL I HAVE I LOOK FORWARD TO

TOMORROW'S DISCUSSION. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> IF WE CANNOT GET IT TOGETHER BY THURSDAY NIGHT, WHAT HAPPENS?

>> WE HAVE A TENTATIVE BUDGET WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT WEEK. THERE ARE SEVERAL MEETINGS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DISPLACED INCLUDING A CANDIDATE FORM ON MONDAY NIGHT. BUT THOSE POTENTIAL DATES WERE LISTED ON THE CALENDAR. AND WE'VE LISTED THAT AS MONDAY-THURSDAY OF THE FOLLOWING WEEK IF NECESSARY.

>> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. CITY ATTORNEY.

>> I HAVE NO REPORTS. >> CITY CLERK.

[12. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

>> PENDING NO QUESTIONS NO REPORTS MAYOR.

>> MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

>> WERE GOING FOR THE RECORD OF THE SHORTEST MEETINGS HAVE

NOTHING TO SAY. >> I KIND OF ECHO WHAT HE SAYS.

WHAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO OVER BUDGET DISCUSSIONS TO START.

I AM READY TO GET THE BALL ROLLING AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IT FIGURED OUT. I'M GOING TO CROSS MY FINGERS AND SAY A PRAYER. THANK YOU.

>> THIS TIME YOU TOOK MY THUNDER, THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. WE WILL GET IT BACK TO YOU TOMORROW. THANK YOU.

>> LIFE IS GOOD. I HAVE MANY THINGS TO DISCUSS

[01:10:09]

IF YOU COULD PUT UP THE PICTURE PLEASE.

>> I AM SURE YOU ALL SAW THIS PICTURE.

>> THE OTHER GOOD THING, AS OF LAST WEEK THE CITY COMMISSION ACTUALLY RAN ON THIS CHANNEL. SO THIS MEETING WILL START AND WILL RUN UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. THAT WAS YEARS AND COMING.

THIS WAS LIKE A BEAR. THIS WAS ON THE RIGHT.

PARK AND REX PUT THAT IN. REALLY MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE AND THERE WORKING ON OTHER ISSUES. THEY DO A SPECIAL TECHNIQUE, TO PUT THAT IN. THAT IS GOOD NEWS.

THE OTHER ONE I SENT OUT TWO E-MAILS THAT WENT OUT FRIDAY.

ONE WAS ABOUT ORGANIZATION. YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST OF FEBRUARY WE HAD AN ORGANIZATIONAL WORKSITE WORKSHOP. ABOUT WHO WAS DOING WHAT AND LACK OF JOB DESCRIPTIONS. IT APPEARS WE ARE STILL IN THAT SAME SITUATION WE ARE ORGANIZING AGAIN AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE JOB DESCRIPTIONS. THE CITY SAID THEY ARE WORKING ON THOSE AND I KNOW SOME WENT OUT.

BUT PEOPLE AREN'T QUITE SURE WHAT THEIR JOB IS.

I THINK, BACK IN THE DAYS, WHEN WE HAD PROBLEMS IN THE MARINE CORPS, WE MADE SURE THINGS WERE RIGHT.

AND I THINK WITH THE CHART, AND THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS THAT REFLECT THE JOBS. I STILL DON'T THINK WE HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTION FOR UTILITY. SO, AND ESTHER'S INFORMATION

THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT. >> COMMISSIONER STURGIS HAVE A

COMMENT. >> WOULD NOT BE THE HR DIRECTOR?

>> AND WE'RE JUST IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THESE?

>> INCLUSION IN THE BUDGET PLAN. >> OKAY.

>> ADVICE MAYOR JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE IN MY MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER, I REQUESTED THAT HE GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THE REORGANIZATION. I MYSELF DID NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND IT. WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET I WAS LOOKING AT NUMBERS AND OFTEN TIMES THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBERS WERE REALLOCATION OF STAFF AND DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT I WAS UNAWARE OF. I THINK AN EXPLANATION OF THE REORGANIZATION, AND WHAT THE BENEFIT OF THE REORGANIZATION

WILL BE. >> I THINK IT IS CRITICAL.

>> THE OTHER ONE IS, WE DISCUSSED THIS, THE FACT IS WE HAVE A FOR 2009 AND IDENTIFY TREES.

THAT IS THE END OF IT. WE DON'T GO OUT AND DO ASSESSMENTS. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, AND THIS CAME AS A RESULT OF THE SIX WEEK TRAINING.

IT WON'T HAPPEN, AND I AM SURE YOU READ IT.

YOUR WALL HAPPEN UNLESS THE COMMISSION SAYS IT HAPPENS.

THE TREE PROTECTION ZONE, THEY'RE WORKING HARD TO DO IT.

THEY HAVE THE CONTRACTOR DOING. BUT YESTERDAY I DROVE DOWN THE STREET AND THERE'S NO TREE PROTECTION.

AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR IT. I'M JUST DRIVING DOWN THE STREET. SO, THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.

BUT IF THE INVENTORY WON'T HAPPEN UNLESS THEY THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT IT. WHY DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT TO HOPEFULLY SAVE THE TREES OR DO WE CUT IT DOWN LATER. IN 2009 WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING COULD WE HAVE SAVED A. IS THERE RISK, MAY BE.

BUT THAT IS A LIABILITY ISSUE. I'M JUST BRINGING THAT UP.

[01:15:01]

>> IS THAT A WORKSHOP TOPIC? >> YEAH, I THINK IT IS A

WORKSHOP. >> WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE CITY CLERK PUT IT ON THE NEXT AVAILABLE WORKSHOP AGENDA.

AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT. >> THE ONLY OTHER THING, AND I DID NOT PLAN TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO. BUT THERE WAS AN E-MAIL YOU GUYS GOT FROM TAMMY ON MONDAY. IT WAS A HABITAT PLAN.

THAT PROCESS WAS STARTED IN 2019 AND DECEMBER 2019.

THE COUNTY WAS ABOARD, IT WAS, ULTIMATELY WE WANTED TO GET THE GRANT. THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS WE HAD A MEETING NOT LONG AGO, DAN WAS THERE.

WE SPOKE TO EVERYONE AND THERE WAS A MUTUAL AGREEMENT OF BOTH COMMISSIONS APPROVE THE PLAN. NOW THE COUNTY IS BALKING AT IT.

THEY WANT TO HAVE A ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE COMMISSIONER WHICH IS A REAL PUSHBACK. WERE ALREADY MISSING DEADLINES.

THIS IS THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE.

QUESTION IS, HOPEFULLY MAYBE THE TDC CAN GET SOME RESULTS AND TAMMY CAN COMMENT. HOW DIFFICULT IT HAS BEEN TO DEAL WITH THE COUNTY. THE NEXT OPTION IS TO GO TO THE FWC TO INITIATE ACTION TO START EARLY, OR CAN WE DO IT INDEPENDENTLY. OR WILL WE LOSE THE GRANT? AND I FIND IT INTERESTING WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT WE WOULD LOSE THAT GRANT.

I AM JUST BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE THERE ARE DEADLINES NOW THAT THEY ARE PUSHING ON THE SPIRIT.

>> WAS THE DEADLINE? >> BUT DEADLINES ARE JUST THE REPORTS. AND WE CAN DEAL WITH THE REPORTS. WE HAVE THE PROPOSAL.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE PROPOSAL ORIGINALLY, BUT WE HAVE THE PROPOSAL ON THE RIFP. BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN GO BACK I THINK THIS MAY RESOLVE ITSELF.

THIS IS AN ENDANGERED SPECIES ISSUE.

I WAS TOLD THIS MORNING, THAT THERE HAS BEEN 7-8 DISORIENTATION'S BASICALLY, BY THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT.

I'M HOPING THEY WILL TRY TO GET SOME STRAIGHT ANSWERS.

I SPOKE TO THE COUNTY MANAGER AND REMINDED HER.

>> AT WHAT POINT DO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION? THIS WILL GIVE THEM A CHANCE AND I PLAN TO CALL THE COMMISSIONER TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE IT. THAT IS IT.

PRETTY SHORT. >> ALL RIGHT, I WILL TRY TO WRAP UP HERE. AS YOU ARE AWARE OR NOT AWARE WE LOST FERNANDINA BEACH FIRE LIEUTENANT FASTTRACK -- CHIEF WILL YOU COME TO THE PODIUM AND SAY SOME WORDS ABOUT THE RETIRED LIEUTENANT, SINCE YOU KNEW HIM WELL.

>> I DID NOT KNOW HIM AS WELL AS I WISH I DID.

HE WAS A MEMBER OF OUR DEPARTMENT FOR 11 YEARS.

BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THERE WAS A VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION HE LEFT ABOUT FIRE SERVICE TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH HIS FAMILY.

AND THEN DID AN ADDITIONAL 20 YEARS AS A FIRE CHIEF.

[01:20:04]

TODAY HIS FUNERAL WAS HELD AND WE WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AND THAT. IT WAS A VERY NICE CEREMONY, A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE APPEAR HE'S ALSO THE FATHER OF MICHAEL HICKOX. SO, A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME OUT FOR HIS FUNERAL. A GENUINE MAN.

DONATED SOME EQUIPMENT TO OUR DEPARTMENT THAT WAS NOT EXPECTED. IS ORGANIZATION THAT HE WAS PART OF RAISED MONEY AND THEY ACTUALLY DONATED IT TO THE DEPARTMENT A FEW YEARS AGO. JUST A REALLY NICE GUY.

I WISH I HAD MORE TIME TO SPEND TIME TALKING WITH HIM.

HE WAS A GENUINE MAN. HE WILL BE MISSED BY HIS FAMILY

AND FRIENDS. >> AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.

EACH MEETING WE GET E-MAILS HOW TO PASS THE BUDGET AND WHAT SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THE BUDGET IS ON THE CITY WEBSITE. THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TO IT.

AND FINALLY, THE POLICE FOUNDATION AT THEIR FUNDRAISER AT THE ALLEY YESTERDAY. I ATTENDED ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE POLICE CHIEF AND MANY OTHERS.

VERY SUCCESSFUL AND THEY RAISED $1,200 AND IT WAS A GOOD EVENT.

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