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[1. CALL TO ORDER ]

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>> CALLED TO ORDER THE APRIL 5, 2022 REGULAR MEETING OF THE FERNANDINA BEACH CITY MISSION. MADAME CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE

ROLE. >> THANK YOU.

VICE MAYOR WILL LEAD US THROUGH THE PLEDGE AND REMAIN STANDING

FOR THE PLEDGE BY NOEL ROBERTS. >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA INTO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> WELCOME SIR.

>> LET US PRAY. FATHER THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR TO MEET HERE TODAY TO DO YOUR BUSINESS.

THE BUSINESS OF THIS COMMUNITY. WE THANK YOU AND YOU HAVE BLESSED US BEYOND MEASURE TO LIVE IN A PLACE LIKE THIS.

GIVE US THE GUIDANCE AND WISDOM TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL BE BEST FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU WILL DO AND WE ASK THESE THINGS IN JESUS

PRECIOUS NAME, AMEN. >> THANK YOU SIR.

HOUSEKEEPING. PERSONAL PHONES, DEVICES, PLEASE PUT THEM ON AIRPLANE MODE, SILENT OR TURN THEM OFF.

WE ARE STILL UNDER COVID-19 SO TAKE MEASURES TO PROTECT YOUR HEALTH AND HEALTH OF OTHERS AND PLEASE CONDUCT OURSELVES IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER. TOO THAT END I RESPECT THAT EACH

[4.1 PRESENTATION - NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY ]

OF US TREAT THE OTHER WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY, ITEM 4.1.

AND THERE IS OUR DOG. >> SO THIS IS APOLLO.

HE CAME TO US FROM AN OVERCROWDED SHELTER.

HE IS VERY SWEET AND VERY STRONG.

WE SAID HE WOULD SAY HI TO EVERYONE.

AS YOU CAN SEE,.

I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US COME EVERY MONTH LAST MONTH WE BROUGHT TWO PUPPIES AND ONE WAS ADOPTED BY SOMEONE THAT WE MET HERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> HELD HIS APOLLO? >> HE IS PROBABLY 2-3-YEARS-OLD.

CLEARLY HE IS NOT A PUPPY BUT HE HAS PUPPY ENERGY.

HIS PAPERWORK DID NOT HAVE HIS AGE SO I AM NOT SURE.

BUT HE IS VERY HAPPY AND GO LUCKY, HE LOVES OTHER DOGS.

HE LOVES KIDS. HE RIDES OKAY IN THE CAR.

HE DOES WELL. >> AND REMIND THE PUBLIC OUT TO

ADOPT A DOG. >> YOU CAN COME VISIT US AT AIRPORT ROAD OR YOU CAN SEE THE DOGS ON WW.NASSAU HUMANE.ORG.

[4.2 AMERICAN SHORELINE AND BEACH PROTECTION ASSOCIATION]

>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING APOLLO.

ABBY GOOD EVENING. >> ALL RIGHT ITEM 4.2 AMERICAN SHORELINE AND BEACH PROTECTION ASSOCIATION.

MISS NICOLE. >> YES THIS IS A REMOTE PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE THERE'S SOMEONE HERE TO REPRESENT THE ORGANIZATION IN PERSON BUT THE PRESENTATION WILL BE PRIMARILY DELIVERED BY NICOLE.

>> CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? >> WE CAN.

>> I WILL SHOW SOME SLIDES TO SHOW WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON.

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>> WE CANNOT SEE YOUR SCREEN. WE JUST SEE A BLACK SCREEN THAT SAYS NICOLE.

WORD OUT ABOUT THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR

HELPING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. >> YOUR VIDEO AND AUDIO IS FREEZING ON US SO WE ARE ONLY GETTING 50% OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. AND RIGHT NOW YOU ARE FROZEN.

HAVE THIS ONE SENSOR HERE.

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>> WE WILL ADD THE LINES FOR YOU AND EVENTUALLY WE WILL HAVE A THRESHOLD. WITH THAT I WILL STOP.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CHAT IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR MORE INFORMATION. AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPENDING TIME WITH US AND PREPARING THE PRESENTATION.

[4.3 PRESENTATION - ANNUAL AUDIT REPORT]

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. >> AND ITEM 4.3, PRESENTATION

THE ANNUAL AUDIT REPORT. >> WELCOME SIR.

IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DANIEL ANDERSON.

I'M WITH THE CITIES AUDIT FIRM. I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVITIES AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE RESULTS TO YOU. BEFORE I GET STARTED YOU SHOULD HAVE TWO ITEMS. ONE WOULD BE THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE REPORT THE OTHER WOULD BE A DOCUMENT WE ISSUE.

THIS OTHER DOCUMENT CONTAINS OUR REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE PRESENTATION I HAVE FOR YOU IS A SUMMARY OF THAT DOCUMENT. I WILL GO THROUGH THAT AS WELL.

FEEL FREE TO STOP ME OR I WILL BE FREE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE HAVE SERVED AS AUDITORS. I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE INFORMATION. I WILL TALK ABOUT THE REPORTS WE HAVE ISSUED. I WILL GO THROUGH THE REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS OR

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COMMENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR ME.

>> WE ARE A LARGE ORGANIZATION WITH 12 OFFICES INCLUDING TWO HERE IN FLORIDA. YOUR OFFICE AUDIT WAS FROM OUR OTHER LOCATION. THIS IS THE LARGEST NICHE SERVING OVER 500 ENTITIES. THIS INCLUDES 140 NV SIMILAR TO THE CITY HERE WHICH PREPARED THE REPORTS AND SEEK THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING.

WE ARE CONSIDERED TO BE A TOP 20 ARM AND I WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THE SINGLE AUDIT THAT WE PERFORM.

WE ARE HAPPY TO OFFER CPE AND IT IS DONE REMOTELY SO IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE, PAULINE AS THE INFORMATION.

LASTLY, ONE THINK WE ARE PREPARED TO DO IS ONE OF OUR FORMER PARTNERS WAS RECENTLY APPOINTED AS THE CHAIR.

SO IT IS HUMBLING FOR US THAT THEY CHOSE SOMEONE FROM OUR FIRM TO LEAD THEIR ORGANIZATION. SOME BRIEF INFORMATION ABOUT THE ANNUAL REPORT. IT IS BROKEN INTO THREE SECTIONS. THE FINANCIAL SECTION IS ALL THAT IS REQUIRED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUDITING GENERAL.

THIS PROVIDES ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR YOU TO MAKE UP THE DOCUMENT. THE STATISTICAL SECTION DOES PROVIDE INFORMATION FOR TRENDS ON THE CITY'S OPERATIONS HAVE BEEN OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS. WHY DO WE DO THIS, TO ISSUE OUR OPINION ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

WE HAVE ISSUED AN UNMODIFIED OPINION.

THEREFORE THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, ARE FREE OF MATERIAL.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL REPORTS YOU WILL SEE ONE WE REFER TO AS THE YELLOW BOOK REPORT AND THAT IS THE CITIES INTERNAL CONTROLS WITH LAWS AND REGULATIONS.

THIS IS NEGATIVE SO THERE IS NOT AN OPINION ISSUED WE WOULD JUST NOTATE SOMETHING IF WE FOUND IT BUT WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING FOR THIS YEAR'S AUDIT. THE SECOND IS DUE TO THE CITY SPENDING MORE THAN $750,000 WE ARE REQUIRED TO PERFORM A SINGLE AUDIT. WE DID THAT NOTING NO ISSUES OF COMPLIANCE OR INTERNAL CONTROLS. GOING THROUGH OUR REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS WE HAD NO DIFFICULTIES DEALING WITH MANAGEMENT. WE HAD NO DISAGREEMENTS OVER THE APPLICATION OF ANY SIGNIFICANT ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES OR ANY OTHER MATTERS. THE ADJUSTMENTS WERE PROVIDED TO MANAGEMENT AND POSTED TO THE CITY AND THE MISSTATEMENTS WHERE WE ELECTED NOT TO POST THAT. AT THE CONCLUSION WE OBTAIN WRITTEN REPRESENTATION OVER THE ACCURACY OF INFORMATION PROVIDED. WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER OPINIONS WHICH WE REFER TO AS OPINION CHOPPING.

YOU DID SEE THIS AS THE MAJOR FACTOR.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE OTHER FUNDING IS COMING FROM.

CONVERSELY THE NEXT LINE IS THE BREAKOUT OF THE EXPENDITURES -- EXPENDITURES. PUBLIC SAFETY IS 50% OF THE EXPENDITURES. AND MANY MUNICIPALITIES SUCH AS THE CITY. YOU COULD SEE WHERE THE BREAKOUTS ARE COMING FROM AS WELL.

THIS CHART HERE SHOWS A HISTORY OF THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. BASED ON LOOKING AT THE CHART THERE IS A DECLINE BUT OVERALL THERE IS A POSITIVE TREND IN THIS AND THIS PROVIDES YOU WITH INFORMATION AS TO WHAT ARE THE THIS CHART SHOWS THE OPERATING REVENUES AND EXPENSES OF THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. YOU WILL NOTE IN THE BLUE AND THE PURPLE IS THE REVENUE AND THE RENT IS THE EXPENDITURE SIDE. YOU WILL SEE WHERE THEY DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT OPERATING INCOME WHERE THE OTHERS ARE MORE LEVEL BUT THEY DO CURRENTLY, HAVE A SLIGHT DEFICIT FOR THE YEAR.

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THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY NON- OPERATING EXPENSES.

I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. >> BECAUSE EVERYONE LOOKS AT THE AIRPORT AND VACANCY IT IS LESS MONEY.

DID YOU PUT DEPRECIATION HERE? THAT IS NOT A CASH BALANCE.

>> THIS IS REQUIRED TO BE REPORTED IN THE OPERATING EXPENSES. AND IT DOES SHOW, YOU CAN SEE THE EXPENSES EXCEED THE OPERATING INCOME.

WITHOUT LOOKING, THEY PROBABLY HAVE A POSITIVE CASH FLOW BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT DEPRECIATION THIS FLIPS IT TO AN OPERATING

DEFICIT. >> THIS GOES OVER THE ANALYSIS THAT I MENTIONED. THIS IS IN A WRITTEN FORMAT AND IT LISTS UPCOMING ANNOUNCEMENT THAT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF.

THE NEXT BIG ONE IS ON LISA'S AND WE HAVE WORK WITH STAFF TO DETERMINE THE IMPACT OF WHAT THAT WILL BE FOR THE CITY TO MAKE SURE IT IS PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED.

IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FOR THE AUTHORS DISCUSSION I WILL TAKE THOSE NOW.

>> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> VICE MAYOR.

>> SOMETHING THAT I USUALLY ASK, I DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH YOU. THE PENSION FUNDS IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE DONE WELL. WE NEED TO INCREASE LIABILITY, IT LOOKS LIKE 77% IS UP. AND THAT IS ON PAGE 62 AND 63.

>> SOMETHING ELSE I NOTED THIS IS A GREAT DOCUMENT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS AN AUDIT ISSUE BECAUSE IT SHOWS A TEN YEAR SPAN. IT'S VERY INTERESTING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FUNDS, BUT WHAT ALSO CONCERNS ME WHEN I LOOKED AT PAGE 106 AND IT SHOWS THE TEN YEAR CAPITAL ASSETS AND SOME HAVE REMAINED THE SAME WHEN I KNOW THEY HAVE NOT.

SO, WE HAD 446 ACRES OF PROPERTY, TEN YEARS AGO SO THAT IS NOT CORRECT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 18 PARKS WOULD BE. AND WE HAD 18 PARKS TODAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AND I ASSUME THE CITY IS GIVING THAT

>> THAT IS CORRECT. SO THIS IS -- IF WE HAD 18 THEN WE HAVE 19 NOW. SO,.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE ACCURATELY FROM THE INPUT.

AND WHAT I DIDN'T SEE, FROM THE CITY AS LONG AS WE ARE HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IDENTIFIED PACIFICALLY, CONSERVATION LAND.

SO, IT IS ADDRESSED BUT NOT IN THE CAPITAL ASSETS.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT I HAVE.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ITEM FIVE.

PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, OR ITEMS NOT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT.

>> AN E-MAIL REQUESTING I READ IT INTO RECORD AND I WILL DO SO NOW. IT IS NOT LENGTHY AND WILL TAKE

UNDER 3 MINUTES. >> I'M WRITING BECAUSE I SPEND A LOT OF TIME HIKING AND BICYCLING.

I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THE GREENWAY WAS ONE OF THE BEST PRESERVED NATURAL AREAS ON THE ISLAND AS IT RETAINS A SENSE OF BEWILDERS. ONLY THE STATE PARKS POSSESS THIS. THIS YEAR THE NORTH SECTION HAS BEEN WIDENED BY A MECHANICAL, BRUSH HOG LIKE MACHINE WHICH CUT THE VISITATION SO FAR BACK IT MAKES THE GREENWAY FEEL MORE LIKE A ROAD THAN A BIKING TRAIL. THE WIDENING OF THE TRAIL AS

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MADE THE ENVIRONMENT FEEL LESS INTIMATE AND NATURAL.

SINCE DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES ON THE ISLANDS NATURAL HABITAT I WOULD HOPE THE CITY WOULD RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO RESERVE AND CARE FOR NATIVE AREAS AND PLANTS SO THEY CAN FIND SHELTER AND ALLOW A MORE PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE WITH US AS THE VISITORS TO THEIR HOME. I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT CITY USE MORE CAUTION AND DILIGENCE WHEN CUTTING BACK VEGETATION ON THE GREENWAY, RESPECTING IT AS A NATURAL PRESERVE WITH SPECIAL COMPETENCE LESS CUTTING BACK WOULD ALLOW NATIVE PLANTS TO REPLACE GRASSES , GIVING THE GREENWAY CRITTERS A PLACE TO HIDE AND EAT.

WILDFIRES -- WILDFLOWERS WOULD ADD TO THE GREENWAY'S NATURAL BEAUTY AND CONTRIBUTE TO BETTER PRESERVATION OF THE CITIES BEST NATURAL ASSET. RESPECTFULLY ROBERT O.

>> I HAVE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF TEXT MESSAGES WITH PHOTOGRAPHS AND I SEE YOUR LIGHT IS ON SO I WILL HOLD MY COMMENTS.

>> I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THIS. WE COULD PUT THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF.

ACTUALLY I INITIATED A COMPLAINT WITH THIS ISSUE AND THERE WAS A RESPONSE FROM THE MANAGER WHO TALKED ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN.

WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE ARE TWO AREAS NORTH OF JASMINE THAT, THEY ACTUALLY RESEMBLE LOGGING TRAILS.

AND THE MASTER PLAN IS VERY SPECIFIC TO THE TRAILS.

ANY THING MORE IS 12 FEET. THESE RANGE UP TO 24-30 FEET IN ONE PLACE. AND I ACTUALLY TOOK GAIL AND TAMMY OUT THERE. I WANT TO POINT OUT, WITH THE CUT OVER ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE THEY WENT WAY BACK THERE.

WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE MASTER PLAN. WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION.

THESE ARE 20 FEET PLUS. AND THEY ARE CUTTING ON THE SIDES, AND THAT IS THE WORST AREA.

THE SOUTH END IS NOT THE GREATEST.

BUT WE DO HAVE PILES OF DIRT THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR MONTHS.

I THINK WE NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO THE QUALITY.

I THINK THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY AGREE.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.

>> AND SO MY COMMENTS ON HAVING RECEIVED SEVERAL E-MAILS AND TEXT MESSAGES OF CONCERN. WHEN WE DO ACTIVITIES ON A PUBLIC PARK WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHY WE ARE DOING IT. WE ARE AGAIN INSTEAD OF BEING PROACTIVE, WE DID ISSUE A REPORT ON WHAT THEY DID AND WHY THEY DID IT. I WOULD URGE THE CITY ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE TO PUBLISH THAT REPORT SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. THEY MAY NOT AGREE WITH IT AND THE VICE MAYOR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN BUT AT LEAST WE ARE COMMUNICATING TO THE PUBLIC AND THE USERS WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHY. WE ARE NOT BEHIND THE 8 BALL.

[6. CONSENT AGENDA ]

ALRIGHT, THAT IS ALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ITEM SIX, THE CONSENT AGENDA. DOES ANYONE WANT ANYTHING PULLED? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MADAME CLERK WHEN YOU ARE READY CALLED THE VOTE.

(ROLL CALL). >> THAT PASSES 5-0.

[7.1 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT - 823 OAK LANE]

>> RESOLUTIONS ITEM 7.1. VOLUNTARILY VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION

AGREEMENT, A 23 OAK LANE. >> I WILL PULL UP THE MAP.

THIS IS A PROPERTY LOCATED BETWEEN EIGHTH STREET AND OLD

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AMELIA OR JUST OFF OF OLD AMELIA ROAD.

IT IS A SMALL LOT. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE, CLERK AND YOU CALLED THE VOTE.

[7.2 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT - 835 OAK LANE]

>> YES. IT PASSED 5-0.

VOLUNTARY ANNEX AGREEMENT. THIS IS 835 OAK LANE.

>> THIS IS ANOTHER PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL AREA.

SEEKING CITY WATER SERVICES. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE

[7.3 WORK ORDER APPROVAL - PASSERO ASSOCIATES, LLC]

VOTE. >> ITEM 7.3 WORK ORDER APPROVAL

PASO ROBLES ASSOCIATES LLC. >> THE ONGOING WORK ON THE RIVERFRONT. THIS IS BASED ON AN HOURLY RATE.

AT 30,000 DOLLARS. >>

>> MR. GEORGE, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IS REMAINING ON THE PROJECT

TO BE DONE,. >> CHARLIE GEORGE, CITY ENGINEER THIS IS BASICALLY A PAPERWORK CATCH UP.

THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT HOURLY. HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE DONE IN THREE WEEKS. WE ARE JUST PLAYING CATCH UP.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, I SEE NONE, MADAME CLERK, PLEASE CALL

[7.4 PROPOSAL APPROVAL - BOUND TREE MEDICAL, LLC.]

THE VOTE. >> THE MOTION PASSES 5-0.

PROPOSAL APPROVAL. >> THIS IS A REQUEST FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF MEDICAL SCHOOL SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT. THIS IS A PURCHASING CONTRACT WHICH DOES REPRESENT A COST SAVINGS TO THE CITY.

THIS IS AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $92,400.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION, VICE MAYOR?

>> IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THIS MAY BE A SAVING SPIRIT I WILL APPROVE THIS BASED ON THAT, BUT, I BELIEVE WE MAKE TOO MUCH EFFORT TO PIGGYBACK AND IN MANY CASES WE CAN CHANGE THIS.

IN CASES WHERE YOU CAN DO MUCH BETTER.

SEVEN YEARS. >> CITY MANAGER, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO PUT IT UP FOR BID?

>> I BELIEVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD THE BEST PRICE FOR THE CITY.

>> I BELIEVE THE CHIEF ASKED THE COST AND IT WAS THE CURRENT

MARKET. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE, MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

(ROLL CALL). >> IT PASSES 5-0.

[7.5 AWARD OF ITB 22-05 - DOCKWORKS OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA DBA C&H MARINE CONSTRUCTION]

THE DOCK WORKS OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA.

>> THE CITY RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION TO CONSTRUCT A BEACH ACCESS OFF OF OCEAN AVENUE. WE HAVE RECEIVED A PERMIT FOR APPROVAL. STAFF REVIEWED THE PROPOSALS AND CONDUCTED, THIS IS A COMPANY THAT HAS WORKED WITH MR. GEORGE IN THE PAST SO WE ARE FAMILIAR. STAFF ASKED THAT THE CITY COMMISSION AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR WALKOVER.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> VICE MAYOR.

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>> THIS IS THE SECOND GRANT, FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR END WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE. WE ALSO DID ONE ON THE STATE LEGISLATION REQUEST. ALSO $500,000 FOR ADDITIONAL WALKOVER SPIRIT ALL OF THESE WALKOVER'S WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 16, WERE BASED ON A STUDY TO ELIMINATE THE GAP SPIRIT THESE ARE BASICALLY THE NEW WALKOVER SPIRIT THIS ALLOWED US, AND WITH $500,000 TO MATCH IT WITH IMPACT FEES.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS $500,000, THE CHOICE IS WE CAN ELIMINATE ALMOST ALL OF THE GAPS THAT WE HAVE, OR, IF WE LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS, THERE WERE OTHER OPTIONS, SO, INSTEAD OF GETTING SIX OR SEVEN WE CAN GET ONE, SO, WE HAVE ELIMINATED FIVE GAPS AND WE CAN ELIMINATE THE REST OF THEM, IF WE DO IT THAT WAY.

>> WE HAVE NEVER AS A COMMISSION DECIDED ON THE SOUTH END, IT EXTENDS ALMOST 600 FEET. WHETHER WE WANT TOTAL WALKOVER'S OR WALK-THROUGHS TO THE FRONT, SAVING EXTENSIVE DOLLARS.

BUT, IN THE PROCESS HAVING SOME WALKOVER SPIRIT I WILL.OUT THIS

IS NEAR THE RAMP. >> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT

THIS HAS A RAMP. >> BRIEFLY WHAT I HAVE BROUGHT UP, IF WE LEVEL THE SAND OUT, WE WOULD ONLY NEED A WALKOVER THERE. I THINK THAT IS A CHALLENGING WAY TO UNMASK THE EXPENSE. WE SHOULD LEVEL THE GROUND.

CITY EMPLOYEES CAN MAINTAIN THAT.

THEY CAN BLOW OFF THE SAND. THEY CAN MAKE SURE IT IS NICE AND EASY TO WALK TO THE DISTANCES.

THAT IS ALL I WANT TO SAY. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? I SEE NONE.

MADAME CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[7.6 AWARD OF ITB 22-06 - FIVE12 PAINTING & REMODELING LLC]

>> ITEM 7.6. AWARD OF ITB22-06.

>> THE CITY DID THAT TO SOLICIT BIDS FOR THE WATER TOWER PAINTING. NINE BIDS WERE RECEIVED.

STAFF RECOMMENDS AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?

>> A LITTLE DISCUSSION. WHAT ARE WE AWARDING THIS FOR

EXACTLY? >> THE INTENT IS FOR, --

>> JUST SAY YOUR NAME AGAIN. >> THE ELEVATED WATER TANK.

>> WE ARE REPAINTING IT AND PUTTING THE GRAPHICS BACK UP.

>> IT'S BEEN A WHILE. >> I THOUGHT THAT IS WHAT IT WAS FOR BUT I WANTED TO CLARIFY. THAT'S IT.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? MADAME CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[7.7 REALLOCATION OF FIND FUNDING]

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(ROLL CALL). >> IT PASSES 5-0.

REALLOCATION OF FUNDING. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF THE FINE, COMMISSIONERS, THEY WERE OPEN TO THE CITY REALLOCATING AN AWARD TO THE CITY THAT WAS INTENDED FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE BATHHOUSE.

DID BUT THE CITY COMMISSION STARTED THE ACCOUNTING PROCESS, SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CATCH UP.

THIS WILL RETURN FUNDING TO THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE NOW THE CITY IS RECEIVING ADDITIONAL MONEY WHICH IS UNDERWAY RIGHT

NOW. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? I SEE NINE, MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. (ROLL CALL).

[7.8 AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN PROJECTS]

>> ITEM 7.8 AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN PROJECTS.

>> THIS WAS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WHERE STAFF IS LOOKING FOR DIRECTION AND A SUMMARY OF PROJECTS TO ALLOCATE THE $6 MILLION, $6.6 MILLION THAT THE CITY WILL RECEIVE FROM THE FEDERAL AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDING.

WHAT IS INCLUDED, WE ASK THAT YOU AMEND THE RESOLUTION BASED ON DISCUSSIONS, CITIES TRADITIONALLY DO NOT INCLUDE AN ABUNDANCE OF REGULATIONS WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. BECAUSE THE DOCUMENTS DID NOT INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE, AND WE HAVE AWARDED THE PROJECT, WE CANNOT USE $1.2 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR DRAINAGE.

BASED UPON A REVIEW WE WILL BE ABLE TO FIND THAT OTHERWISE.

WE ASK THAT YOU AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO REFLECT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WHEN WE GO UP FOR BID WE WILL COMPLY WITH THE PROCUREMENT REGULATIONS AND USE THAT MONEY.

THE CONTRACTORS STARTED THE WORK ON THE DRAINAGE.

THAT IS WHY WE CANNOT UNDO WHAT WE HAVE DONE.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND,

DISCUSSION? >> I WILL SUPPORT THIS ONLY IF GOVERNMENT FACILITIES INCLUDES THOSE AREAS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WITH THE TIER ONE FACILITIES.

I DON'T THINK, WE NEED TO FUND THOSE.

WE NEED TO GET THE BUILDINGS UP TO STANDARD.

>> I TRUST THAT THEY WILL DO THAT.

>> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. >> THESE ARE JUST BUCKETS OF MONEY AND STAFF WILL PROCEED WITH SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

>> I WILL VOTE TO APPROVE THIS. >> CITY MANAGER FOR THE PUBLIC

WOULD YOU DESCRIBE AREA FIVE. >> IT ADDRESSES STORM WATER FROM THE WATERFRONT AS FAR AS EIGHT STREET.

I'M THINKING AREAS SIX. >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> IT PASSES 5-0.

[7.9 GOLF COURSE DIRECTION]

>> ITEM 7.9 GOLF COURSE DIRECTION RESOLUTION.

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OPERATE THE GOLF COURSE. THAT EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 30 OF THIS YEAR. TO GET LEAD TIME, FOR THE CITY TO PREPARE AN RFP, THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE ADVISORY BOARD.

THEY DID RECOMMEND THE CITY MAINTAIN MANAGEMENT FOR ONE MORE YEAR TO SEE THE FULL IMPACT. THEY RECOMMENDED CITY KEEP IT FOR ONE MORE YEAR. STAFF IS ASKING DO YOU WANT THE CITY TO MANAGE THE GOLF COURSE OR DO YOU WANT US TO PREPARE AN

RFP. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID WE HAVE NOT HAD A FULL YEAR IN A POST PANDEMIC WORLD TO UNDERSTAND IF THIS IS THE RIGHT CALL. WHEN WE FIRST DID IT, IT WAS A YEAR END I DON'T FEEL WE HAVE THE DATA TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

SO I SUPPORT ANOTHER YEAR. >>

>> I THINK THE GOLF COURSE MANAGER IS DOING A GREAT JOB.

I THINK THINGS ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

IMPROVING SLOWLY BUT IMPROVING. I THINK UNDER THE MANAGEMENT WE ARE MANAGING EVERYTHING PROPERLY.

WE HAVE LESS STAFF. AND IT'S AT A PRETTY DECENT LEVEL. SO I GIVE KUDOS TO THE GOLF COURSE AND THE EMPLOYEES. I THINK IT WILL ONLY GO UP FROM HERE. I AM NOT SURE IF WE NEED AN RFP.

BUT IT IS A STEADY AND SLOW RACE.

IT WON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. YOU HAVE A LOT OF GREENS AND GRASS. BUT WE ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND THE CHEMICALS ARE GETTING PUT OUT.

THE WATER IS GETTING PUT OUT AND IT IS A MATTER OF TIME, A LITTLE TWEAK AN ADJUSTMENT. I THINK WE ARE HEADED IN THE

RIGHT DIRECTION. >> ORIGINALLY, I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS. I WANTED TO PUT IT OUT BUT THE CONSENSUS WAS IT WAS IN -- A MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE SO LET'S GIVE IT A SHOT. NOW THE CITY TOOK OVER WHEN?

>> A LITTLE OVER A YEAR. MARCH OF LAST YEAR.

IT HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR GENTLEMAN, THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS. AND YES YOU ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO BRING THE GOLF COURSE UP TO SPEED I GET IT.

YOU INHERITED A REALLY BAD SITUATION.

I APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.

BUT I VIEW THIS GENTLEMAN, A GOLF COURSE IS LIKE THE MARINA.

IT IS A BUSINESS. AND MY PERSONAL VIEW IS CITY GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE OPERATING.

WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE OR THE KNOWLEDGE, AND WE SHOULD NOT HAVE OUR ENDS IN IT. WE SHOULD HAVE A PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT FIRM RUN THE GOLF COURSE.

HERE IS WHY. HERE'S WHY.

THE LAST FINANCIAL REPORT, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, NORMAL GOLF COURSE OPERATIONS SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING 30-50% OF THE REVENUEOF THE OPERATION. I COVERED GOLF COURSES FOR 20 YEARS. YOU DON'T MAKE YOUR MONEY OFF OF GREEN FEES. THAT PAYS FOR THE MAINTENANCE.

THE MONEY IS IN THE CLUBHOUSE. FOOD AND BEVERAGE IS WHERE YOU MAKE YOUR MONEY. LAST FEBRUARY FINANCIAL WE GOT, THAT ACCOUNTED FOR 5% OF THE REVENUE.

WHAT DID I JUST SAY, 30-50. FOOD AND BEVERAGE IS UNDERPERFORMING AND HAS BEEN UNDERPERFORMING, FOR MORE THAN A

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YEAR. IT IS UNDERPERFORMING SO POORLY, WE PUT IT OUT TO BID AND WE GOT NO RESPONSE.

0. NOW WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU.

0 INTEREST IN ANYONE TAKING OVER FOOD AND BEVERAGE.

POINT NUMBER TWO IS, ORIGINALLY, WHEN I DID NOT VOICE OPPOSITION, WE WERE GOING TO SAVE MONEY BY GETTING RID OF --

>> YOU KNOW WHAT, $14,000 BECAUSE THAT IS EATEN UP BY RETIREMENT AND HEALTH BENEFITS. WE TIPPED -- WE PAY $104,000 IN BENEFITS FOR EMPLOYEES AT THE GOLF COURSE.

SO THAT DECISION COST US 14 GRAND.

REMEMBER UNDER A MANAGEMENT COMPANY ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES ARE THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY'S EMPLOYEES.

SALARIES ARE $610,000. AND THEN WE HAVE AN ABYSMAL DISASTER. AND YOU WILL RECALL TWO MEETINGS AGO, WHEN WE WENT OVER THE FINANCIALS, I CALCULATED THE USE OF THE TEN BASE PERIOD AND REMEMBER I CALCULATED THE HOURS OF AVAILABILITY. 3%.

SO YOU HAVE FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONTRIBUTING 5%.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE FEBRUARY FINANCIALS WHICH I DID.

THE RENTAL FEES ARE EATEN UP BY HAVING THE PEOPLE WE HIRE TO BAN THE FACILITY. WE ARE NETTING LIKE A GRAND BECAUSE OF THE SALARIES IT TAKES TO MAN THE FACILITY.

THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO PUT AN RFP OUT FOR PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT. GET THIS OFF OF THE TAXPAYERS BACKS. AND AT THE VERY LEAST, WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE POSSIBILITIES. THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.

CONSIDER YOUR OPTIONS. IF YOU EXTEND THIS ANOTHER YEAR AND THIS CONTINUES, THIS IS A BUSINESS SUPPORTED BY TAXPAYERS.

IF THIS TREND CONTINUES AND WE DECIDE NEXT APRIL, NOW WE ARE INTO SEPTEMBER, 2023, PROBABLY NOT AWARDING IT UNTIL 2024.

THAT IS WHY I AM URGING THE COMMISSION NOT TO APPROVE THIS.

PUT IT OUT TO RFP AND I AM NOT SAYING THE CITY WILL TURN IT OVER, I AM SAYING LET'S EXPLORE OUR OPTIONS BECAUSE THE WAY THIS IS TRENDING IF I WERE AN ACCOUNTANT I WOULD SAY WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WHO ARE YOU HOLDING ACCOUNTABLE.

ULTIMATELY, AS COMMISSIONER ROSS REMINDED US AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE ARE LIKE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE. SO, THAT IS WHY I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THAT. I WILL FINISH WITH SOME EVIDENCE , I AM A MEMBER OF A MILLION RIVER.

I OFTEN GO THERE AND I AM PARENT OF WITH PEOPLE.

DURING THE PAST 60 DAYS, I HAVE BEEN PAIRED UP WITH FOUR COUPLES WHO ARE VISITORS TO THE ISLAND, AND THIS IS TOTALLY UNSOLICITED.

THEY SAID TO ME, I HAVE PLAYED AT THE CITY GOLF COURSE.

COWPASTURE. ABOMINATION.

RIPPED OFF, I WOULD NEVER SUGGEST ANYONE PLAYS THERE.

THOSE ARE FOR UNSOLICITED COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE PLAYED AND I WORKED GOLF COURSE. THAT HURTS ME.

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IT HURTS ME TOO HEAR THOSE WORDS BECAUSE I HAVE NO DEFENSE.

I HAVE NO DEFENSE. THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION.

I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER, YOUR LIGHT WAS ON.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU.

>> THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE IS THAT YOU WANT TO RUN IT LIKE A BUSINESS BUT IT ISN'T A BUSINESS.

WE ARE RUNNING IT AS AN AMENITY. IF YOU WANT TO RUN IT AS A BUSINESS YOU HAVE TO PUT IN THE CAPITAL.

I SPOKE TO BILLY, I THINK HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING ANY SAID THE SAME THING. THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE MANAGEMENT IT IS LACK OF CAPITAL.

IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT CAPITAL INTO IT, THEN IT WILL ALWAYS BE WHAT IT IS. NO MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS GOING TO COME IN AND MAGICALLY TURN THIS AROUND.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS IT IS NOT A WARM AND INVITING PLACE.

WE DID NOT PUT MONEY INTO IT. IT ALL TAKES CAPITAL.

A MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

WITH THE MARINO WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO STANDARDS.

WE PUT THE N-UPPERCASE-LETTER. THIS GOLF COURSE HAS PARTS THAT ARE 6-YEARS-OLD AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE REDONE EVERY 20-30 YEARS. THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE GRASS IT'S THE SUBSTRUCTURE. SO, I DON'T THINK THE SOLUTION IS A MANAGEMENT COMPANY WILL TURN THIS AROUND WITHOUT CAPITAL. I WILL, I THINK UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, CITY STAFF IS DOING A GOOD JOB, AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE ALONG THAT VEIN.

>> I THINK WE CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE, I THINK CHIP IS CORRECT. IT IS NOT A WELCOME FACILITY.

IN TURN, IF WE WANT TO SUPPORT IT, LIKE A BASKETBALL COURT, LIKE A PARK AND REX WE SHOULD LOOK AT CHANGE IN STRUCTURE THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS AND WE DON'T NEED TO CLUBHOUSE BUT I SEE NO PROBLEM GOING OUT AND IT COSTS US NOTHING BUT A LITTLE LABOR. THEY MAY COME UP WITH A VIABLE

OPTION. >> VERY BRIEFLY.

I THOUGHT WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT THIS WAS A CITY GOLF COURSE AND WE ARE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

BASED ON THE BUDGET CONCERNS, MEANING $2 MILLION FOR EMPLOYEE WAGES AND OTHER ISSUES WERE DEALING WITH.

IT'S LIKE WE CAN'T HAVE OUR HAND AND FIX EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME.

I AGREE WITH CHIP, WE CUT OFF THE $250,000 WE WERE GOING TO SPEND AN BILLY HAD $200,000 TO IMPROVE THE COURSE AND THEY DID NOT DO IT AND THEY WERE THE TOP RANKED GOLF COURSE.

I HIGHLY DISAGREE AT THIS MOMENT.

I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THE CITY STAFF THE TIME AND PATIENCE TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO. AND THEN HOPEFULLY THE NUMBERS WILL IMPROVE, AND I DO AGREE IT NEEDS IMPROVEMENT.

IF WE WANT TO BRING IT UP TO STANDARD, WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEND

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MILLIONS AND WE ARE NOT PREPARED ,.

>> I WOULD START AND THE BACKBONE.

I'M GOING TO SUPPORT CITY STAFF, AND I CAN THINK OF A LOT OF PLACES WHERE WE LOST MONEY OTHER THAN THE CITY AMENITIES AND THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO DISAGREE. I DON'T THINK PUTTING OUT THE RFP COST US ANYTHING. THIS IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF WORK.

WHEN WE SAY IT COSTS NOTHING, I DON'T THINK THAT IS TRUE.

AND THEY'RE NOT RUNNING THE GOLF COURSE.

SO, I JUST WANTED TO GENTLY PUSH THAT.

>> VICE MAYOR IS YOUR LIGHT STILL ON.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> IT IS A MINIMAL COST.

THEY DEVELOPED RFPS FOR THE CITY IN A MINIMAL TIME AND IT IS CUT AND PASTE AND REVIEW. IT'S NOT A BIG COST.

BUT THERE IS A COST. AND THE RESULTS ARE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. MAKE IT SOME EXCELLENT PROPOSALS

AND IF YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T. >> IF I COULD OFFER ONE COMMENT.

ONE OF THE UNSEEN COSTS IS THE UNCERTAINTY FOR STAFF.

WE LOST PREVIOUS STAFF I DON'T LOVE THE CITY WILL KEEP IT OR IF I WILL HAVE A JOB. THERE ARE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BUT I AGREE WITH THE IDEA THAT SOMETIMES, IS THERE HARM IN AN RP, I WILL STAND HERE AND I WILL COMMIT THAT CITY STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO TURN THIS AROUND.

AND I THINK THE CITY STAFF WE HAVE IN PLACE IS DOING A GREAT

JOB. >> THANK YOU I'M THE GOLF COURSE MANAGER I STARTED HERE ON JUNE 1.

I WILL SAY, THE NUMBERS YOU SEE WILL BE IMPRESSIVE.

WE HAVE PLAYED A LOT SINCE OCTOBER 1.

AND I'VE BEEN WATCHING IT CLOSELY FOR THIS REASON.

AND TO PRESENT TO YOU, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE FINAL NUMBERS, $840,000 FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS. I TOLD YOU WHAT, I'M PROUD OF THE NUMBERS I WAS HOPING FOR MORE REVENUE AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EXPENSES YET. TOP TRACER HAS BROUGHT IN MONEY AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT, FORGER 20 PEOPLE.

IT IS NOTICEABLY DIFFERENT. THE PAST MONTH WITH THE WEATHER BEING GREAT AND A WASHOUT, IM PROUD OF THE NUMBERS THAT I AM SEEING AND I THINK YOU WILL BE IMPRESSED.

I WILL SAY THIS, THE NATIONAL GOLF FOUNDATION IS SAYING, PEOPLE TAKING UP GOLF, TIGER WOODS WAS THE MOVER OF THE NEEDLE BACK IN 2001. NOW IT IS MORE SO AND PEOPLE ARE PLAYING MORE THAN NEW GOLFERS COMING ON BOARD.

LASTLY I WILL SAY, I'M NOT A FAN OF GOLF MANAGEMENT COMPANIES, BUT I WILL SAY THIS. I AM NOT OPPOSED WERE YOU PUTTING OUT A BID. MAYBE THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY WILL HIRE ME. BUT I'M NOT LOOKING FOR THAT.

KEEP A POST, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN TO THIS CONDITION.

NOT TO PICK ON ANYONE BUT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY SHOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED IT TO GET TO WHERE IT IS WE HAVE A GREAT SUPERINTENDENT, A GREAT MECHANIC.

JUST KEEP ABREAST ON THINGS. I DON'T CARE HOW YOU BOTH.

I RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

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IF THAT WASN'T FOR THIS GENTLEMAN, I WOULD NOT BE HERE.

I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM. I WILL SAY THIS.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SWIMMING POOL.

IF I HAD SOME KIDS DROWNING I WOULD THROW THEM A LIFE PRESERVER AND TRY TO MAKE THEM FLOAT.

I TELL YOU WHAT. YOU HAVE A GOLDMINE OUT THERE.

IF YOU TURN IT OVER TO ANOTHER MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT'S FINE BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF HOLES OUT THERE.

WE ARE PUTTING DOWN SOME THOUGHT, I SPOKE WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND EVERYTHING WILL BE FIXED.

FIRST IMPRESSIONS MATTER. THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.

I HAVE A GOOD FEELING LIKE WHEN THEY HAD THE RYDER CUP.

TREAT IT AS YOUR BABY AND WE CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.

BABY STEPS. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER ROSS SAYS THIS IS AN AMENITY.

THIS IS THE MOST HIGHLY USED CITY FACILITY USE.

60,000 ROUNDS. YET TO THIS POINT WE PUT NO MONEY INTO IT. THAT IS PUZZLING, ISN'T IT.

SPEND MILLIONS ON A MARINA THEY DON'T BRING IN $60,000, BUT WE DO NOT PUT ANY MONEY INTO THE GOLF COURSE.

THAT IS PROBLEMATIC. DEKE GENTLEMEN, LET'S BE REAL ABOUT THIS. IF YOU ARE HAPPY WITH FOOD AND BEVERAGE EVEN IF YOU TRIPLE PACK, YOU ARE STILL FALLING SHORT. AS I SAID, TOP TRACER IS AT 3%.

LET'S JUST BE REAL. THE GOLF COURSE IS WHAT IT IS.

WHY DO WE HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD IS BEYOND ME.

WERE NOT PUTTING ANY RESOURCES INTO IT.

I WATCH THE MEETINGS AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO APPROVE

IT. >> LET'S CALL THE VOTE.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY. THIS IS TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL THAT THE CITY CONTINUES TO MANAGE THE GOLF COURSE FOR

ANOTHER YEAR. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> COMMISSIONER? (ROLL CALL).

[7.10 BOND REFERENDUM DIRECTION]

>> IT PASSES THROUGH REFERENCE TO.

>> >> I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE THIS.

>> THE GENERAL CONSENSUS FOR THE STAFF TO PREPARE A BOND.

THERE WAS A SERIES OF PROJECTS PRESENTED.

AND ACTUALLY AT THE TIME THE CONSENSUS WAS FOR APPROXIMATELY A $25 MILLION BOND. WHEN STAFF DID THE RESEARCH, THE ESTIMATES OF THE VARIOUS PROJECTS CAME IN 16 MILLION DOLLARS FOR A VARIETY OF PROJECTS.

THE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT AND DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS.

THE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENT IN PRETTY -- PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS APPEAR TO BE OF THE MOST INTEREST AND THAT WAS $17 MILLION. SO WHAT STAFF NEEDS FROM YOU IS WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU WANT TO DO FOR THE BOND.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE OFFERED ADDITIONAL IDEAS.

YOU CAN DISCUSS THAT THIS EVENING BUT WE ALSO NEED TO KNOW WHAT PROJECTS YOU SUPPORT SO THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN PREPARE BOND LANGUAGE TO BRING TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING AND AT THAT TIME YOU CAN START TO CONSIDER THE DATE IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE A BALL AND REPRIMAND THE. WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE DATE AT THIS TIME WE JUST NEED TO PREPARE THE LANGUAGE OR THE

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AMOUNT AND THE PROJECTS. >> WE HAVE A MOTION.

>> RESOLUTION REQUIRES THE BOAT AND I NEED A RESOLUTION.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND.

I HAVE TO PUBLIC SPEAKER SO GENTLEMEN, BEFORE WE DELVE INTO THIS LET'S HEAR THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

FIRST OF ALL MR. MICHAEL SHARP. >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL SHARP I LIVE AT 139TH STREET AND FERNANDINA BEACH.

I WANT TO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR WE SHOULD NOT BE IN AN EXTRANEOUS BUSINESS OF THE CITY.

THIS IS CATCHING UP WITH US ALL OF THE TIME IN TAXES.

SECONDLY, I HAVE ASKED MR. MARTIN TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE GEO BOND FOR THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD IN THE CITY. THE NUMBERS WOULD BE PURELY I ASKED HIM FOR AN EXAMPLE FOR A 70 MILLION-DOLLAR LOAN ON A HOME ASSESSED AT $500,000. THAT IS JUST MAP, IT IS NOT SPECULATIVE. TWICE HE HAS REFUSED TO GIVE ME THE INFORMATION ENTITY'S ARTICLE HE DEFINED $17 MILLION IN PROJECTS THAT HE TALKED ABOUT AND WHEN I ASKED ABOUT THE COST OF THE TAXPAYERS HE WAS EVASIVE AND I'VE PROVIDED YOU THE CONVERSATION. IN HIS ARTICLE HE LIKENED THIS TO A HOME LOAN. NO ONE GOES TO LOOK AT HOUSES THEY CAN'T COME CLOSE TO AFFORDING.

YOU DON'T LOOK AT A 70 MILLION-DOLLAR HOME IF YOU CAN ONLY MAKE PAYMENTS ON A 700-DOLLAR MORTGAGE.

HOW CAN YOU CONSIDER RECOMMENDING AGL BOND WITHOUT KNOWING THE CONSEQUENCES TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

>> MOST CANNOT AFFORD TO BEAR THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE NON- RESIDENTS AND VISITORS HERE EVERY YEAR.

THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO RAISE REVENUE FROM PEOPLE WITHOUT

TAXING RESIDENTS TO DEATH. >> MR. MARTIN LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IS DISTURBING AND YOU SHOULD DEMAND MORE FROM HIM

BEFORE PROCEEDING. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> >> I LIVE AT SOUTH TENTH STREET.

I'VE ONLY LIVED HERE FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.

I HAVE NOT KEPT UP WITH EVERYTHING, I WAS OUT OF TOWN.

WHEN I CAME BACK, THIS COULD BE OLD BUSINESS.

IT UPSET ME BECAUSE, THE CITY MANAGER SUGGESTED IN THE ARTICLE THAT I READ THAT HE TAKE OVER FISCAL OVERSIGHT FOR OPERATIONS IN TERMS OF HOW THEY WILL THOUGH THE MONEY OUT FOR EXPENSES.

RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T CHANGED IT, THE CITY COMMISSION AS OVERSIGHT OF THE COSTS $7,500.

THIS MAY BE AN OLD NUMBER. IT MAY EVEN BE $10,000.

BUT TO SAY, YOU GET $50,000 AND WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER YOU SHUFFLE IT AROUND, THE MANAGER REPORTS TO YOU BUT YOU CANNOT ASK THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO COME BEFORE YOU.

SO THE OVERSIGHT FOR THIS SHUFFLING AROUND TO ME SOUNDS LIKE A SLUSH FUND. I KNOW THAT IS NOT A NICE WORD BUT WHEN I READ IT, THAT IS WHAT WENT THROUGH MY BRAIN.

A NICE SLUSH FUND FOR OPERATIONS.

IM HOPING IF YOU HAVE NOT CHANGED YOUR POLICY THAT YOU WILL NOT AGREE TO THAT. MY OTHER ISSUE IS JUST WHAT THAT

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GENTLEMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT, BOND ISSUES.

WE ARE SUPPORTING A LOT OF VISITORS.

I DON'T THINK THE ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY, AND THE CITY IS THE. YOU PAY TAXES TOO.

NOT JUST ME, BUT EVERYONE SITTING HERE PAYS RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE TAXES. MAYBE YOU ARE ALL WEALTHY, IT'S A BIG DEAL. BUT FOR ME IT'S A BIG DEAL.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE HAD TOWN MEETINGS EXPLAINING WHAT WILL GO INTO THE POND AND IS IT GOOD FOR THE RESIDENCE AND CAN WE GET MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS, THE ONLY THING I GOT IS HOW WILL YOU

PAY FOR IT. >> THANK YOU MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT VICE MAYOR, YOUR LIGHT IS ON. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> I HAVE ASKED SHOULD WE GO FOR A BOND ISSUE.

AND THE SHORELINE STABILIZATION. IT IS A NEW PROJECT THAT WE ADOPTED AND WE SPENT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

WE ARE JUST CONTINING WITH THE PLAN.

I HEAR THAT, THERE'S LOTS OF GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE. TAKE A LOOK AT THE GRANT MONEY.

ADDITIONALLY, THE PROCEDURES ARE NOT BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE AREAS WE WILL BE COMPETING FOR GRANT MONEY THAT WE MAY GET WITH MIAMI-DADE AND TO ME THAT IS THE ONLY LEGITIMATE THING WE CAN ASK FOR. THE OTHER BOND ISSUES, WE ARE ASKING THE PUBLIC -- TRACK I THOUGHT ELIMINATED THIS BUT IT CAME BACK UP. ASKING FOR TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS DON'T MAKE SENSE. THAT IS GRANT MONEY.

SO, WE ADOPTED THESE THINGS. WE STARTED THE SHORELINE RESILIENCY. DO WE HAVE TO DO IT.

WILL WE TRIED TO REPURPOSE THE MONEY, BUT THE ONLY REAL LEGITIMATE BOND ISSUE THAT WE COULD GO FOR AND THE PEOPLE CAN

DECIDE WHAT THE DATA SAYS. >> THANK YOU, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY. WHEN WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST WE WERE IN AGREEMENT THAT ALL FIVE OF US NEEDED TO BE BEHIND A BOND REPRIMAND THEM AND IF WE DID NOT HAVE UNANIMOUS CONSENT, OR SUPPOR, WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE HURT CORRECTLY.

SO IF RESILIENCY IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BOND ISSUE, ARE YOU SAYING YOU ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF A BOND REFERENDUM?

>> SO NOW WE ARE IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE.

I WILL RECESS FOR 5 MINUTES. I WILL GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH, WE WILL COME BACK AND WE WILL DISCUSS.

>> PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS. THANK YOU, WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. SO, PRIOR TO RECESS, THE VICE MAYOR SAID HE IS NOT IN FAVOR OF A BOND REPRIMAND HIM UNLESS

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RESILIENCY IS PLACED IN THE REFERENDUM.

OUR DISCUSSION IS ARE WE MOVING FORWARD OR ARE WE NOT,

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> ARGUED TALKING ABOUT THE

ENTIRE BOND? >> I'M SAYING NEITHER.

I THINK YOUR NUMBER IS 16 MILLION.

SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DOING $25 MILLION AS LONG AS THIS IS

PART OF IT. >> LET'S BACK UP A MINUTE.

FIRST OF ALL BUSINESSES VOTER APPROVED DEBT.

NO MATTER WHAT WE DECIDE, THIS HAS TO GO BEFORE THE VOTER TO GET APPROVED. WHATEVER WE PUT TOGETHER, EACH PERSON, EACH PERSON WILL HAVE TWO CAUTION.

FOR A $20 MILLION DEBT, I FIGURED IT OUT.

PEOPLE ARE PAYING VERY LITTLE, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO PAY VERY LITTLE. THEY HAVE EXPENSIVE HOMES BECAUSE THEY BEEN THERE SO LONG. FOR ME I FIGURE, IT WAS $120 ADDED TO THE BOND. WHAT I WANT TO SAY, IF WE BORROWED $20 MILLION, WHAT WOULD BE THE RATE REQUIRED TO SUPPORT

A $20 MILLION BOND? >> IF YOU FACTOR IN THE VARIABLES OF INTEREST AND THE LIMP, LET'S ASSUME A 2.5% INTEREST AND A 30 YEAR TERM, ANNUAL DEBT SERVICES ARE $950,000. ONE TENTH OF A MILLION IS APPROXIMATELY $300,000. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL RATE OF .31 AND AS COMMISSIONER INDICATED, USING ALL OF THE VARIABLES, THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF $120,000 ON

THE PROPERTY. >> AND THE PEOPLE WHO PAY TAXES.

I HAVE A BIG HOME BUT IT ISN'T THE RIGHT PLACE DOWNTOWN.

>> SO THAT MAKES LIFE SIMPLE. >> YOUR COMMENTS, AREN'T THEY PERTAINING TO RESILIENCY BEING INCLUDED?

>> YES, I'M GETTING THERE. >> I FIRST WANTED TO GET THE NUMBER 20 MILLION. THAT IS THE PART.

TALKING TO THE CITY ENGINEER, AND DOWNTOWN, THIS IS AT BEST AN ESTIMATE. AND $2 MILLION IN THEIR CONTINGENCY. DOWNTOWN COULD BE DOWN FOR APPROXIMATELY $15 MILLION. IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY? I AM NOT HOLDING YOU TO IT.

>> IT IS FAIR. YOU ARE RIGHT.

THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL ESTIMATE LOOKING AT THE PARAMETERS.

BUT YES, I PUT A BIG CONTINGENCY ON THAT BASED ON WHEN WE WOULD

DO IT. >> SO THE NUMBER IS SQUISHY?

>> VERY. >> $16 MILLION.

>> YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND DOWNTOWN IS ONE OF THE JEWELS, I HATE TO USE THIS WORD. ONE OF THE JEWELS OF THE CITY.

PEOPLE COME HERE FOR TWO REASONS.

THEY COME HERE FOR THE OCEAN AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ME TELL.

I WALK THERE ALL OF THE TIME. IT NEEDS HELP.

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THAT IS ABOUT $15 MILLION. WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS TAKING 5 MILLION AND PUTTING -- THINGS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT.

CITY COMMISSIONS HAVE TALKED ABOUT BUT HAVE NOT FUNDED BUT WE PROMISED THE TAXPAYERS WE WOULD DO THIS.

WE SAID WE WOULD DO EACH WALK OVER SAND RESILIENCY.

WE PROMISED, SO I WOULD SAY, TAKE THE $5 MILLION, I'M JUST MAKING UP NUMBERS BUT $1 MILLION INTO RESILIENCY, $1 MILLION IN CONSERVATION AND BEACH WHELCHEL VERSE, AND THERE WAS ANOTHER

ONE. >> CITY FACILITIES.

>> MLK NEEDS -- I READ THE REPORT THEY NEED $800,000, WHERE WILL THAT MONEY COME FROM. THE MORATORIUM NEEDS AN UNKNOWN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR REPAIRS. IT WON'T BE CHEAP.

APPARENTLY I SAID SOMETHING THAT OFFENDED SOMEONE.

>> I WOULD LOOK AT, AND GO TO THE VOTERS AND SAY IF YOU WANT TO DO THESE THINGS, EAR IS THE OPPORTUNITY.

IF YOU DON'T, WE ARE DONE. BUT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

AND GENTLEMEN, I AM THE GOD THAT SAYS WHERE'S THE MONEY AND I HAPLOTYPE AND LOW FOR MONEY. THIS IS IT.

THERE ARE TOO MANY OTHER OPTIONS.

I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.

AND THE TDC WILL NOT GIVE US MONEY TO DO THIS.

THEY WON'T. AND, WE VOTED NOT TO DO INCREASE FRANCHISE FEES. AND ON AND ON IT GOES.

THIS IS A SOURCE OF MONEY AND THE BOATERS DON'T WANT IT THEY DON'T APPROVE IT IF THEY WANTED WE DO IT.

I THINK THAT WAS THE POINT, WAY BACK WHEN WE STARTED THIS WOULD BE VOTER APPROVED. I THINK I HAVE USED THE WORD SMORGASBORD IN THE PAST THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY GOES TO FUNDING DOWNTOWN WHICH IS ESSENTIAL TO OUR ECONOMY.

AND THEN INVESTING IN THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT WHICH IS PART OF THAT COULD BE, RESILIENCY FOR THE WATERFRONT.

I THINK THIS IS THE MOST LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING OTHER FUNDING. IF YOU LOOK AT TRYING TO FIND GRANTS, IT'S MUCH EASIER TO FIND MONEY FOR THAT THAN IT IS FOR FIXING UP HISTORIC DOWNTOWN OR PUTTING IN BEACH WHELCHEL VERSE.

IF YOU BRING IT ALL TOGETHER, PERHAPS WE CAN GET THE VOTERS TO AGREE. IF NOT, THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN.

>> I GUESS ARM PROPOSING $15 MILLION FOR THE CONSERVATION. AND $1 MILLION TO RESILIENCY AND

$1 MILLION TO FACILITIES. >> SO, VICE MAYOR TO CLARIFY, DID YOU HAVE A FUNDING NUMBER IN MIND?

>> I'M USING THE NUMBER OF THE CITY.

$70 MILLION. >> SO, SO WE ARE CLEAR GOING FORWARD, IF WE DON'T INCLUDE $70 MILLION FOR RESILIENCY, YOU ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THE BOND ISSUE?

>> CORRECT. >> WE WENT THROUGH THIS WHEN WE ADOPTED THE PLAN. WHEN WE SPENT THE TO ENACT MILLION DOLLARS. THAT AFFECTS DOWNTOWN.

THAT IS SOMETHING, DO WE REALLY NEED TO DO IT.

LET ME BACK UP. WE APPROVED A GRANT FOR WALK OVER. THIS IS THE FOURTH ONE AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE APPROVED. WE HAVE DONE WELL WITHOUT.

WE CAN DO THAT. MY POINT IS, I DON'T WANT TO ASK THE PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND SAY WE DIDN'T DO OUR JOB BECAUSE WE DEFERRED EVERYTHING. AND WE DIDN'T NEED TO DEFER

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EVERYTHING THOSE WERE CHOICES. SO YES, I HAVE SAID THIS CONSISTENCY. I HAVEN'T DRAWN A LINE IN THE

SAND BUT I'M DOING IT. >> SO, GENTLEMEN, ALL FURTHER DISCUSSION ON WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IS ACADEMIC UNTIL WE SOLVE THE VICE MAYOR'S CONCERN. I AM NOT VOTING TO HAVE A BOND ISSUE. WE ALL HAVE TO BE EXCITED AND SUPPORTIVE IN ORDER FOR THE VOTERS TO EMBRACE THIS.

SO, COMMISSIONER STURGIS, YOUR THOUGHTS.

>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS.

IT WON'T BE ON THE 17 MILLION BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL TOGETHER. BUT ONE POINT I WANT TO MAKE, WHETHER PREVIOUS COMMISSIONS OR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGEMENT OR WHATEVER THAT GOT US TO THIS POINT.

BUT REALITY IS THE TDC IS NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE MONEY REQUIRED TO BRING SOME OF THESE BEINGS UP TO DATE.

I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO DO THEM ALL AT ONE TIME, BUT WE CAN ADDRESS BOTH STATE AND ASKED FOR VALUES TO CHANGE.

WE HAVE TO BE IN AGREEMENT WITH OUR COUNTY AND WITH DIFFERENT ENTITIES TO DO THAT OF THAT WILL GIVE US SOME MONEY AT SOME POINT. HOWEVER IT STILL WON'T HIT THE MARK THAT WE WILL NEED. WE WILL HAVE TO GO OUT AND PUT PAID PARKING ON THE STREETS AT THE BEACH AND WE WOULD HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING NO ONE WANTS TO DO BECAUSE WE LIKE THE ISLAND THE WAY IT IS. I LIKE PULLING UP TO THE PARKING SPOTS ARE NOT PAYING. I -- THERE IS A LOT OF ISSUES THERE. I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. I LIKE US ON THE SAME PAGE IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT ESPECIALLY A BOND REFERENDUM.

BUT IF IT'S NOT CLEAR, I'M NOT SURE WHAT DIRECTION WERE GOING IN. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO START BY SAYING A BOND REFERENDUM IS NOT A BAD THING. THE ONE WE PAID OFF LAST YEAR WAS THE GREENWAY. SO 31 YEARS AGO, THE COMMISSION HAD THE WISDOM TO SAY THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO PURCHASE.

THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN TAKE OUT A MORTGAGE AT THIS IS A WORTHWHILE PROJECT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS FOREVER CHANGED THE FACE OF AMELIA ISLAND, AND WHAT WAS AND STILL IS A WORTHY PROJECT TO PAY ALL.

BRING THAT TO TODAY AND I SEE THE BIGGEST REASON WE'RE DOING IT IS BECAUSE WE PAID OFF THE LAST ONE BY SHEER.

AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE OKAY BECAUSE IT IS NOT BAD IF THERE IS A GOOD PROJECT. ONE THAT IS IDEAL AND I WOULD SAY, AND THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING SO OUTSTANDING AND AMAZING THAT THE CITIZENS AS THEY PAY OFF THE MORTGAGE, THEY WOULD FEEL PROUD OF HAVING. FOR ME I THOUGHT THAT WAS DOWNTOWN, AND TO BE FRANK, I AGREE THAT RESILIENCY IS A WORTHY GOAL, BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS A VISIBLE PROJECT FOR A BOND. I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY. THE OTHER THING IS I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE SMORGASBORD ONE BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT -- I THINK THAT IS CONFUSING. I DON'T THINK A HODGEPODGE OF PROJECTS IS WORTH TAKING OUT. WOOD YOU GET PROJECTS DOWN TO THAT LEVEL OF SPENDING. IT STARTS TO BE THAT THEY WILL NOT LAST 30 YEARS. WE WILL TAKE OUT A 30 MILLION DOLLAR MORTGAGE AND SPENT HERE AND BY THE TENTH YEAR, WE HAVE USE THE IMPROVEMENTS AND NOW WE HAVE -- AND FINALLY, IF IT IS

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NOT ONE SOLID PROJECT, AND IT BECOMES A DISTRIBUTION, I DON'T THINK IT IS EASY TO TRACK. FOR THOSE REASONS I'M OPPOSED TO A SMORGASBORD ITEM AND I AGREE IF WE ARE NOT ALTOGETHER ON THIS I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AND I WOULD VOTE NO.

AND I WOULDN'T MIND TABLING THIS BECAUSE I THINK WITH FURTHER DISCUSSION WE CAN COME TOGETHER BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T SEE THE

SUPPORT FOR THIS. >> LET ME POINT OUT, WHEN YOU GO BACK AND RESEARCH THIS, THIS WAS ONLY PART OF IT AND THEY FUNDED A LOT OF THINGS TO GET DIFFERENT GROUPS TO COME TOGETHER TO FUND THIS. THAT IS THE WAY IT WENT THROUGH BUT NOT NECESSARILY HOW IT WILL HAPPEN TODAY.

NUMBER TWO, ADDRESSING THE VICE MAYOR'S CONCERNS, WE DID FAIL.

THE CITY COMMISSION HAS FAILED AND I WILL SAY RIGHT NOW WE ARE CONTINUING TO FAIL. WE HAVE MADE PROMISES THAT WILL HELP BEACH WHELCHEL VERSE. CONSERVATION LAND, THAT WE WILL FIX THE BUILDINGS, WE ARE FAILING.

AND THE REASON WE ARE FAILING IS WE CANNOT COME TOGETHER ON A WAY TO MAKE MONEY. WE SHOULD ALL BE ROWING THE BOAT TOGETHER BUT WE ARE NOT. POSTPONING AND TABLING THIS, WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. THE CALENDAR IS UNFORGIVING.

YOU CANNOT, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH CERTAIN STEPS LEGALLY AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS TAKE TIME.

WE NEED TO COME TO A CONSENSUS ON SOMETHING AND IT SOUNDS LIKE, ONCE AGAIN, WE WILL FAIL AND WE WILL NOT DO ANYTHING.

I WILL.OUT TO YOU, I HAVE LISTENED TO ALL OF YOUR CAMPAIGN SPEECHES. WE ALL PROMISE THESE THINGS.

I CAN SEE NO OTHER WAY TO DELIVER BUT TO SAY HERE IS A BOND. HERE IS A WAY OF FUNDING THIS, AND IT IS THE VOTERS CHOICE. BUT GOING BACK TO THE GREENWAY, I SPOKE TO RUN ABOUT THAT. IT HAS BEEN SOME TIME NOW IT HAS BEEN MONTHS OR A YEAR. ONE OF THE WAYS THEY DID THAT WAS TO GET THE CONSENSUS OF COMMUNITY GROUPS.

EVERYONE GETS SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS CALLED FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP AND WE ARE THE LEADERS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND THIS AND MOVE FORWARD, IF WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE, IF WE NEED FIVE VOTES IT'S OBVIOUS WE WON'T HAVE FIVE VOTES.

THAT IS THE WAY IT APPEARS TO ME.

>> VICE MAYOR. >> A OUR BUSINESS JUST GOING TO SAY WERE NOT GOING TO GET ANY MONEY FROM THE TDC.

WERE NOT GOING TO GET MONEY FOR DOWNTOWN.

ALSO, FAILURE. WE JUST BOUGHT WHAT $1 MILLION WORTH OF CONSERVATION LAND, WE ALMOST 45% OF THE CITY IS IN CONSERVATION. IS THAT A FAILURE? I THINK WE HAVE SOME WE ADOPTED IT, WE STARTED AT 5-0.

WHEN IS IT IMPORTANT TO THE CITY, LOOK AT THE DATA.

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE SHOULD READ THE DATA.

I THINK THE VOTERS, ARE ENTITLED TO VOTE AND LOOK AT THE

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RESILIENCY ISSUE. I WOULD SAY THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE

TO ME. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY I DIDN'T THINK THEY WOULD PAY FOR ANYTHING.

I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL TOGETHER. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE NOT.

>> I WANT TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND EVERYONE

THINK ABOUT. >> YOU CAN'T TABLE IT BECAUSE IT

IS A MOTION. >> THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR

SO IT REQUIRES A VOTE. >> I ASSUME IT WILL BE TO APPROVE THE REVOLUTION. YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE ANOTHER

MOTION AFTER THAT. >> SHOULD WE POSTPONE IT.

>> NOT UNTIL THE MOTION IS VOTING ON.

>> GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER OPPOSED TO A BOND REFERENDUM AND RESILIENCY IS THE MAJOR FUNDING COMPONENT.

WE ARE NOT ALL ROWING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

SOME HAVE DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ON WHAT SHOULD BE FUNDED.

WE HAVE TWO PROBLEMS HERE GOING FORWARD.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I WOULD AGREE, BUILDING THE SHORELINE, IS EXTREMELY THEM PORTON.

WHERE WE DIVERGE I THINK YOU CAN FIND MONEY FOR THAT AND OTHER PLACES. NUMBER TWO, YOU NEED FIVE VOTES.

WITH THE -- WITH THE OTHER THREE OF YOU BE WILLING TO VOTE FOR A

17 MILLION-DOLLAR BOND? >> IT WAS AROUND 15.

>> ACTUALLY, I MAY HAVE IT HERE. >> I THINK --

>> 15.8 MILLION. WITH THE REMAINDER OF YOU HAVE

SHORELINE -- >> CC MILLION DOLLARS AND CALL

IT A DAY. >> I WANT TO FUND SOMETHING.

I DON'T THINK IT IS THE BEST SOLUTION, BUT I NEED FIVE VOTES.

I HAVE TO GIVE FIVE PEOPLE TO AGREE.

ONE IS ADAMANT HE WON'T AGREE. SO THE REST OF THEND.

>> GENTLEMEN, THOUGHTS? >> TURN YOUR LINE ON.

>> I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE CORRECT PROJECT.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> POINT OF ORDER WE JUST DID A MOTION TO TABLE. AND IT DELAYS VOTING WHICH IS A MOTION TO APPROVE AND IF IT WERE SOMEHOW APPROVED TONIGHT THE RESOLUTION IS FULL OF BLANKS, THE ONES WE WANTED TO FILL-IN.

>> I WOULD -- TAMMY, COACH ME THROUGH THIS.

>> I AM PARAPHRASING. YOU CAN POSTPONE TO A CERTAIN TIME WHICH IS DELAYED CONSIDERATION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO DELAY CONSIDERATION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING FOR EVERYONE TO GO HOME AND THINK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT.

>> JUST MAKE A MOTION. >> THAT'S MY MOTION.

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>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> NOW EIGHT DISCUSSION. TANGIERS MY SPEECH.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> SO THINK ABOUT IT OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND I WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD THAT WE CAN AGREE ON SOMETHING TO PAY FOR ONE OF THESE PROJECTS.

A BOND IS A WAY TO PAY. ALL OF THESE ARE BIG AMOUNTS OF

MONEY. >> A MOTION TO POSTPONE IS TO IN DELIBERATION. YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION AND CALL

THE VOTE. >> A MOTION TO POSTPONE.

>> (ROLL CALL). >> POSTPONED UNTIL THE NEXT CITY

COMMISSION MEETING. >> I WILL REMIND MY COMMISSIONERS, THIS REQUIRES A LOT OF STAFF TIME AND INVOLVEMENT. IF WE DON'T HAVE SUPPORT FOR A BOND REPRIMAND THEM LET'S MAKE THAT.

I HAVE HEARD OTHER COMMISSIONERS USE THE PHRASE KICK THE CAN.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU. >> THANK YOU.

AND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARD TO LEGAL ISSUES AND THAT IS WHAT HAS TO BE DECIDED. AND THIS IS AN ELECTION DATE,.

>> HERE WE ARE IN APRIL WE LITERALLY HAVE TWO MONTHS.

THE OTHER THING I WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND.

WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT SPECIAL ELECTIONS AND PRIMARY GENERAL.

>> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT YOU CAN DO A COLLECTION YEAR.

YOU ARE NOT PIGEONHOLED. >> THANK YOU.

[8.1 PAY AND CLASSIFICATION PLAN]

>> SECOND READING, A .1. >> AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FOR NEED A BEACH TO PLAN ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE 2021 -- ZERO FIVE AND ESTABLISHING A NEW PAY CLASSIFICATION PLAN PURSUANT TO CHARTER SECTION 30" OF ORDINANCES SECTION 62-247 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> IT IS OPEN, DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. I SEE NONE, PUBLIC HEARING IS

CLOSE. >> THERE ARE TWO CHANGES.

THE CHANGES ARE AND THE OTHER CHANGES THE ELIMINATION OF THE GOLF PROFESSIONAL FROM THE PAIN CONSERVATION THAT WILL BE TRANSITIONED TO A CONTRACTED EMPLOYER -- EMPLOYEE.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO CHANGES FROM THE FIRST READING.

THIS IS PRIMARILY THE EFFORTS OF HER EFFORTS THAT SHE HAS PUT IN.

>> I HAVE A A SECOND. DISCUSSION?

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>> YOU SPOKE ABOUT HOW WE ARRIVED AT THESE NUMBERS.

IT WAS BASED ON MANY THINGS. WE HAVE GOTTEN E-MAILS OF PEOPLE ASKING HOW WE ARRIVED AT THE NUMBERS.

I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD GO THROUGH HOW COULD WE GET TO THIS

SET. >> BASED ON MY 30 YEARS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AND MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN PAYING CLASSIFICATION SPIRIT I TOOK THAT INFORMATION FROM MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE.

WE IMPLEMENTED THE $15 PER OUR MINIMUM WAGE SO THAT WAS OUR STARTING POINT AND WE BUILT A PLAN BETWEEN EACH PAY GRADE.

A MINIMUM RANGE FROM MINIMUM TO MAXIMUM.

WE DID LEAVE OFF THE DIRECTORS FROM THESE IMPLEMENTATION FOR

FUTURE REVIEW AND UPDATING. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE.

MADAME CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> (ROLL CALL). >> THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES,

[9.1 GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD]

YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON. THANK YOU SIR.

THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES. AND THE, AS I'VE DONE IN THE PAST WE NEED TO DISCUSS EACH CANDIDATE AND TAKE A VOTE.

>> ANY THOUGHTS? >> I LIKE BOTH CANDIDATES.

I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF PUMPING INTO VAMPIRIC BUT I'M

JUST GOING TO CAST MY SUPPORT. >> MY RECOLLECTION IS THE BOARD

ENDORSE,. >> SO FILL OUT NUMBER ONE AND

NUMBER TWO. >>

>> OKAY ALL OF YOU CHOSE HER AS YOUR FIRST CHOICE.

>> ITEM TEN THE CITY MANAGER REPORT.

>> WE HAVE TO MOVE TO A POINT. >> ITEM TENT CITY MANAGER

[10. CITY MANAGER REPORTS ]

REPORTS. >> A REMINDER THAT THE MONTHLY MEETING AND THE READ DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD IS TOMORROW EVENING. AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, YOU WILL NOT I HAVE A WORKSHOP BUT YOU WILL CONVENE AS THE EXECUTIVE BOARD. I EXPECT THEY WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THEIR EFFORTS.

THIS WILL BE THE TIME FOR YOU TO INTERACT.

>> THE CITY AS SCHEDULED THEIR RECYCLING EVENT.

IT IS SATURDAY, APRIL 16. THAT IS AN UNUSUAL DAY BETWEEN GOOD FRIDAY AND EASTER BUT WE TEND TO PIGGYBACK AND THE EFFORTS ARE COMBINE. THE COUNTY IS HAVING THEIR EVENT

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ON APRIL 16 AND THE CITY WILL HAVE OFFERS AND THAT WILL RUN FROM 8:00 A.M. UNTIL NOON. WE WELCOME ANY OF YOU TO VOLUNTEER. IT IS A GOOD TIME TO INTERACT WITH RESIDENTS. I WILL PROVIDE A FLYER FOR ALL OF THAT. WITH REGARDS TO FEMA, MY NOTES INDICATE WE ARE WAITING FOR FINAL AUTHORIZATION WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF RUTHERFORD. WE GOT A KICK ON OUR BEHALF.

THIS WAS REFERRED TO THIS PROJECT IN 85 AND WE HAVE STARTED DRAWING DOWN THOSE FUNDS.

THAT WILL COMPLETE ALL OF THE WORK FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FINANCING COSTS.

TEETH THERE IS A COST COUNSEL INDICATED IN REGION FOUR, THAT WAS REJECTED BY FEMA. IT WAS A MISSISSIPPI CASE.

WE ARE NOT SURE WHETHER IT WILL BE USED AS A PRECEDENT FOR OUR REQUEST. WHICH AMOUNTS TO APPROXIMATELY

$300,000. >> DID I UNDERSTAND YOU, THEY

HAVE CUT THE CHECK,. >> WORKING WITH THE STATE.

>> WE CAN START PULLING MONEY OUT AND WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED,

GRAB AS FAST AS YOU CAN. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> CITY MANAGER, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR?

>> I'M WAITING ON PROPOSAL FROM A RECRUITER.

WAITING ON A COUNTER OFFER AND THE OTHER WHEN DECLINED TO PARTICIPATE, BECAUSE THE ASSUMPTION IS HE IS A MEMBER OF THE STATE RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND WITHIN NINE MONTHS OF VESTING AND NOT A PARTICIPANT IN THE STATE RETIREMENT SYSTEM.

OUR BELIEF IS HE OPTED OUT. WE DID MAKE HIM AN OFFER BUT HE DID NOT RESPOND IN A TIMELY MANNER.

>> SO WE ARE BACK TO SQUARE ONE. >> WILL YOU DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF

IMPACT FEES? >> THERE WAS QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE USE WOULD BE ALLOWED BECAUSE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, AND THE IMPACT FEE FUN A CAPITAL EXPANSION FUND OR FUND 310, THERE WAS A QUESTION OF HOW DO WE FUND THAT.

BASED ON THE ANALYSIS, YOU CAN USE IMPACT FEES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OR RECONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC FACILITIES.

YOU CANNOT USE IT FOR REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE AND THIS IS DEFINED AS PARK AND RECREATION FACILITY. THAT IS DEEMED APPROPRIATE USE OF IMPACT FEES FOR THE STRUCTURE.

>> I HEARD YOU SAY THE RECONSTRUCTION OF FACILITIES.

YOU CAN USE IMPACT FEES. IS THAT ALSO A LEGAL OPINION?

>> YES. >> SHE DOES NOT HAVE YOUR BACK.

>> I WILL PULL UP THE E-MAIL. >> THERE IS A REASON WHY I UNDERLINE THAT STATEMENT FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU CITY MANAGER. >> THE STATE LAW SAYS THE FUNDS ARE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. AND WHAT THE STATE LAW DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY, YOU HAVE THE NEXUS FOR THE PROJECT THAT HAS TO BE ROOTED IN EXPANDED USE BUT NOT --

>> THAT IS WHAT THE STATE LAW SAYS.

RECONSTRUCTION IN MANY CASES, CAN BE REWORDED.

WE JUST NEED TO BE CAREFUL. >> WE WILL MITIGATE THIS DURING

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THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS. >> WELL, AMONGST OURSELVES.

WE CAN PLAY ATTORNEY. I'VE SEEN YOU PLAY ATTORNEY.

[11. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS ]

>> OKAY,. >> THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO SAY IS WHEN I GIVE A LEGAL OPINION TO THE CITY MANAGER IT IS UNTETHERED. WHEN I COME INTO THESE CHAMBERS AND I HEAR ON THE RECORD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT IS LEGAL AND WHAT IS NOT, THAT CHANGES MY MIND IN SOME CASES.

I AM NOT GOING TO THEN PROVIDE AN OPINION WHERE THERE ARE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT SAY, YES WE CAN USE IT.

BUT THE STATUTE SAYS THIS OR THAT.

I WILL PUT MY OPINION IN WRITING BUT I WILL NOT ARGUE LEGAL MATTERS. SO WE ARE TALKING IF WE CAN REPLACE THE PLAYGROUND OR NOT, THESE COMMISSIONERS THAT DID NOT AGREE THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE USE THAT IS FINE TO ME.

>> AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.

>> THE LITIGATION REPORT, I SENT THAT OUT, THE PESCHEL MAGISTRATE ORDINANCE, WE ARE PULLING BACK AS STAFF INDEFINITELY.

I PULLED IT INITIALLY BECAUSE THE HUD COMPLAINT THAT THE CITY RECEIVES CITED THE ORDINANCE AS RETALIATION AGAINST THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE. IN ORDER TO KEEP THE RECORD CLEAN, WE NEED TO PULLING OUT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEMED LIKE IT WILL BE FOUR MONTHS. FRESH WITH A NEW ORDINANCE.

I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, EVERY FIVE YEARS I HAVE TO GET MY BOARD CERTIFICATION. I ACHIEVE THAT AND THAT IS AFTER ADVANCED COURSES AND APPLICATIONS AND.

PREFERENCES. I DID GET BOARD-CERTIFIED AND I AM BOARD CERTIFIED UNTIL 2026. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND I KNOW IT IS LATE BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT.

I DON'T ALWAYS READ THE OBITUARIS BUT THE LAST TWO WEEKS WERE TOP. WE LOST, AND THESE ARE THE ONES I KNOW ABOUT BUT THERE MAY BE OTHERS.

WE TALKED ABOUT ONE IN OUR LAST MEETING THAT I WANT TO SAY WE LOST OUR PREVIOUS MAYOR AND HE WAS ON THE COMMISSION AND HIRED ME AND I HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP.

IF YOU SEE JANE AROUND TOWN, NOT ONLY WAS HE THE MAYOR HE SPENT 15 YEARS ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNSEL.

WE ALSO LOST BILL CONGER. SOME OF YOU MAY NOT HAVE MET HIM HE SPENT 15 YEARS ON THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD HE WAS A HIGHLY DECORATED VETERAN, TWO PURPLE HEARTS,.

>> MARINE CORPS. >> YES HE WAS A MARINE.

THESE GUYS WERE IN THEIR 80S AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM AROUND BUT THEY DID A LOT FOR THE CITY. LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST TOMMY WAS THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR OF THE COACH OF MANY OF YOU. HE WAS THE DIRECTOR FOR OVER 20 YEARS FROM THE 60S. I WANT TO PROVIDE MY

CONDOLENCES. >> WE JOKE ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.

>> WE HAD SOME E-MAIL SEVERAL WE -- SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND I WAS ASKED BY THE VICE MAYOR TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT TO SEE IF WE COULD STRENGTHEN IT LITTLE BIT MAYBE HAVE A REGISTRY AND WHAT WE FOUND OUT THERE IS A STATE STATUE THAT REQUIRES IT.

THEY PROVIDE THE APPLICATION. IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE A CITY

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ORDINANCE. THIS IS SOFT COMPARED TO THE STATE LAW. I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH COPIES SO YOU CAN REVIEW. AND THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS.

THAT WOULD BE A MINOR SELLING GIRL SCOUT COOKIES.

AS LONG AS THERE'S AN ADULT SUPERVISING THEM, THEY HAVE TO

HAVE A PERMIT. >> AND CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS ARE EXEMPT FROM THE PROCESS. THAT IS SOLICITATION.

>> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. ALL OF WHICH WE DISCUSSED

YESTERDAY. >> OKAY.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS TALKED ABOUT FAILURE AND PASS COMMISSION FAILURES. ONE OF THE FAILURES MENTIONED BY THE PUBLIC IS OUR FAILURE TO OVERSEE THE LEASE AGREEMENTS.

THE FAILURE TO ATLANTIC SEAFOOD TO HAVE THAT BUILDING MAINTAIN.

FROM FAILURE FOR THE SUBSTRUCTURE.

KEEP THAT SAY. SO IT DOESN'T DETERIORATE.

AND ON YOUR MOTION TO RECONSIDER, YOU NOTED THAT CENTER STREET RESTAURANT GROUP HAD NOT PAID RENT AND FOUR MONTHS. YOU ALSO INCLUDED THE LEASE AGREEMENT AND IT SAYS, IF THEY DIDN'T PAY THE LEASE, IT COULD BE TERMINATED. MY QUESTION IS, IF I WAS RENTING AN APARTMENT AND I DIDN'T PAY MY RENT FOR FOUR MONTHS THEY WOULD TERMINATE ME. SO WHY ARE WE ALLOWING THIS

LEASE TO CONTINUE. >> I WENT BACK INTO THE LEASE AND THE CITY, WE THE CITY DID NOT JUST START MISSING PAYMENTS.

WE ACTUALLY GOT NOTIFIED BACK IN NOVEMBER BY CENTER STREET ABOUT PEOPLE NOT BEING PAID RENT. THEY WERE SUFFERING FROM, THEY WERE LOOKING FOR GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE AND THEY WERE NOT PAYING. SO THE DEFINITION OF GROSS REVENUES UNDER THE LEASE BETWEEN THE CITY AND CENTER STREET, AS LONG AS THE GROUP IS GETTING PAID THEY OVERRAN.

THEIR ARGUMENT IS THEY DON'T OWE RENT IF THEY ARE NOT RECEIVING ANY RENTS FROM THEIR SUBLESSEES. THAT IS THE REASON.

>> THAT IS A MAJOR HOLE IN THE LEASE.

>> I WAS NOT HERE IN 1990. >> CAN I SAY SOMETHING?

>> IF YOU REALLY READ THE LEASE, IT IS WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT IS VERY FRIENDLY TO THE LESSEE AND NOT THE LESSOR.

THAT WAS WAY BEFORE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM.

THAT WAS 25 YEARS AGO. BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.

IF THEY DON'T GET PAID, WE DON'T GET PAID.

>> AND THE PUBLIC REALIZES IN YOUR MOTION, NOTED THAT THE SUBLEASE SEE HAS NOT PAID THEIR RENT SINCE MAY OF LAST YEAR.

AND WE HAVE NO LEGAL RECOURSE. >> I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T HAVE LEGAL RECOURSE WE ARE IN LITIGATION RIGHT NOW.

>> BUT WE ARE IN LITIGATION OVER THE SUBSTRUCTURE NOT OVER THE RENT. THAT IS MY QUESTION.

WHY DO WE -- WE COME UNDER CRITICISM THAT WE DON'T ENFORCE OUR LEASES. AND THE CRITICISM IS VALID.

WE DON'T. SO, WHY ARE WE NOT DOING SOMETHING TO A LEASEHOLDER WHO IS NOT PAYING US RENT AND HASN'T. NOW IT WILL BE ONE YEAR.

>> WE HAVE NO RECOURSE? >> RENT HAS NOT BEEN PAID TO THE CITY SINCE NOVEMBER. THE REASON IS THEY CLAIM, WE ARE GOING BY WHAT THEY SAID. THEY SAID WHICH WE INTEND TO AS PART OF THE CURRENT LAWSUIT, WE ARE HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION AND CIVIC -- XCD RESTAURANT GROUP KNOWS IT THEY HAVE ASKED THE

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COURT TO RECONSIDER THE STATE BEING THE CITY GETTING THE PUBLIC OUT OF THAT BUILDING. THE CITY HAS SAID NO, THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO GET OUT OF THE BUILDING AND ONCE WE GET THE COURT TO RULE OUT OF THAT, AND CENTER STREET RESTAURANT GROUP AND THE CITY HAS TO COME TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

IT IS NOT AS EASY, AND I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE THAT BUT THIS IS NOT A RESIDENTIAL LEASE.

IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT IN A COMMERCIAL LEASE.

NOT ONLY IS THIS PARABLE TO CENTER STREET RESTAURANT GROUP, THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF PITFALLS. WE DON'T KNOW, THE CITY BY NOT MAINTAINING THE SUBSTRUCTURE, THEY HAVE BREACHED THE LEASE.

WHO IS SENDING THE DEFAULT NOTICE? IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED SITUATION.

I CANNOT TELL YOU WHY WHEN BUILDINGS LIKE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD THAT ARE IN SUCH POOR CONDITION, I CANNOT TELL YOU WHY THAT WAS

ALLOWED. >> THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF THE CITY IS WE ARE TOOTHLESS AND ANEMIC.

>> THAT IS THE PERCEPTION. >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.

>> I WILL SAY THIS IS A MATTER IN LITIGATION.

WE ARE NOT HELPING OUR CASE. I'M GOING TO CALL YOU ON THIS ONE. I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO DISCUSS IN PUBLIC THE LITIGATION STRATEGY.

>> THE LITIGATION IS BOTH SUBSTRUCTURE.

>> I AM APPLES TO APPLES. I AM ONE FOR TRANSPARENCY I AGREED THE CITY AND COMMISSIONERS IN THE PAST HAVE NONENFORCEMENT LEASES. I JUST THINK AT THIS POINT WITH WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS CASE, YOU ARE NOT HELPING THE CITY'S POSITION IN THIS CASE. THAT IS MY OPINION.

>> OKAY, MOVING ON. >> NO SMOKING, WE TALKED ABOUT

-- >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE

PUBLIC AWARE. >> AND WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH ATLANTIC SEAFOOD. WE WERE EXPECTING SOME TYPE OF ACTION. WILL THEY REBUILD.

>> EIGHT LETTER HAS BEEN SENT TO THE LEASEHOLDER AND I HAVE COPIED YOU WITH THE LETTER. IT INDICATES I NEED A LETTER OF INTENT OR A CONCEPTUAL IDEA OF WHAT SHE WILL DO BY NEXT FRIDAY APRIL 15 AND BECAUSE THAT LEASEHOLDER HAS NOT PAID THEIR PROPERTY TAXES, AND THE TERMS OF THE LEASE, IT SAYS UPON WRITTEN NOTICE, SHE HAS TEN DAYS TO RECTIFY OR SHE WILL BE CONSIDERED IN MATERIAL DEFAULT OF THE LEASE.

THE LETTER NOT ONLY REQUEST DIRECTION BUT IT ALSO SAYS, TODAY IS DAY 0 AND TOMORROW IS DAY ONE.

>> YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THAT LETTER IN YOUR INBOX THE

[12. CITY CLERK REPORTS ]

NEXT TIME YOU CHECK YOUR E-MAIL. >> THAT'S ALL I APPEARED MCCUE.

>> OKAY, CITY CLERK. >> THANK YOU.

THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF CITY CLERKS WANT TO HAVE ME CONTINUE SERVING AS THEIR NORTHEAST REPRESENTATIVE WHICH REPRESENTS 17 COUNTIES HERE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA.

THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW. >> CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THE AIRPORT ADVISORY HAS ONE VACANCY AND THE APPEALS HAS AN ALTERNATE VACANCY. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

THEY HAVE A VACANCY. THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS TWO VACANCIES AND THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS ONE VACANCY. INTERESTED PARTIES ARE

[13. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ]

INTERESTED SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

>> ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER. >> I HAD SOMETHING I WANTED TO

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SHARE. BUT NO COMMENTS.

>> COMMISSIONER STURGIS. >> I WILL MENTION TOMMY PURVIS AND HIS FAMILY, KEEP THEM IN YOUR PRAYERS.

HE WAS A HECK OF A COMMUNITY LEADER.

HE WILL BE MISSED SORELY AND I HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS, THANK

YOU. >> I HAVE A SCHEDULING QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION. I CAN RUN IT DOWN.

EITHER WAY. THEY HAVE RELEASED A TWO WEEK SESSION. THERE ARE TWO WORKSHOPS THAT ARE CONFIRMED AND THERE ARE FOUR THAT ARE IF NEEDED.

SO, I AM ASKING THAT WE SWAPPED THE FOURTH ON THE NINTH.

THAT IS THE SECOND IF NEEDED WORKSHOP.

I THINK IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO HAVE THE 3RD AND 4TH BE THE EXPLICIT AND IF IT IS AMENDABLE TO THE COMMISSION LET'S MAKE THE SWAP AND I THINK WE WILL BARELY NOTICE THE

CHANGE. >> IT'S MY ANNUAL FAMILY REUNION. BUT I WILL BE HERE UNTIL.

>> I DON'T HAVE MY CALENDAR. BUT WE WILL WORK IT OUT.

>> THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY WORK. >> IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WILL

VOTE ON THIS MATTER. >> VICE MAYOR.

>> LIFE IS GOOD. >> I WILL TRY TO GET US OUT OF HERE. YOU HAVE HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE. THE TAPESTRY OF ( INDISCERNIBLE ) AS MENTIONED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND COMMISSIONER STURGIS, WE HAVE LOST SOME QUALITY FOLKS.

THE MAYOR, HE OFTEN DID OUR IMPLICATIONS.

AND THEY DID A WONDERFUL STORY ON MAYOR MALCOLM.

HE LOVED BEING THE MAYOR. A TOP OUT, A CANE AND A SASH.

A GREAT SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

HE WAS ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TASK FORCE.

THE SEA TURTLE PATROL. THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

THE AMELIA ISLAND OF HISTORY. AND WAS INVOLVED IN THE PRESERVATION OF THE HISTORIC HIGH SCHOOL.

THANK YOU MAYOR MALCOLM. THANK YOU AND CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY. MR. DEWAYNE NEWSOM.

IF YOU ATTENDED FERNANDINA BEACH HIGH SCHOOL PEOPLE IS THE VOICE OF THE PIRATES FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS.

HE JUST RETIRED TWO YEARS AGO ACCORDING TO THE STORY THAT I READ AT AGE 88. SO MR. NEWSOM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION AND CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY.

WE'VE MENTIONED MR. TOMMY PURVIS WHO WAS THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR. ONCE AGAIN HIS CONTRIBUTIONS MAKE OUR CITY WHAT IT IS TODAY. AND FINALLY, MR. SURFER WAS THE FOUNDER OF THE AMELIA ISLAND MUSIC FESTIVAL.

WHAT A SPECIAL EVENT THAT IS. HE WAS A FRIEND, MENTOR EXTRAORDINAIRE. WE CELEBRATE THE MANY MOMENTS THE MUSIC, THE FRIENDSHIPS AND THE ECLECTIC THAT HE ORCHESTRATED FOR ALL OF US. WE WANT TO HONOR THOSE FOLKS AND KEEP THEM IN OUR MEMORIES. A LITTLE PLANTING, IT IS THE SECOND HIGHEST DUNE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AND THE LAND TRUST WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE IT.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM?

>> IT SUFFERED A BLOW OUT. BUT THERE WILL BE PLANTINGS,

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20,000 TO PRESERVE THIS DUNE SO IT DOESN'T DETERIORATE.

AND THAT WILL HAPPEN THIS THURSDAY AND FRIDAY BEGINNING AT 9:00 A.M. THERE IS A WEBSITE, DOING SCIENCE GROUP.COM FOR MORE INFORMATION IF YOU WANT TO VOLUNTEER. SEE FINALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND SPONSORED A BICYCLE RODEO FOR THE LOCAL GIRL SCOUT TROOPS LAST WEEKEND.

THAT WAS IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

SO WE WANT TO THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR REACHING OUT.

WITH THAT, WE HIT THE OPERA, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.