[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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          >> CALLED TO ORDER THE DECEMBER 21, 2021 CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP. 
          PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH?>> VICE MAYOR KREGER? COMMISSIONER BEAN? COMMISSIONER ROSS? COMMISSIONER STURGES? 
          >> A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS, AS ALWAYS, IF YOUWOULD TURN OFF YOUR PHONES , SILENCE IT, OR AIRPLANE MODE, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. IF YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE NEWS, THE LEAD STORY ON THE NEWS IS OMICRON. SO, WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THE, IT NOW HAS TAKEN OVER THE DELTA VARIANT. IN THREE WEEKS. 
          IN JUST THREE WEEKS. 73 PERCENT AS OF YESTERDAY, CASES, WERE OMICRON. 
          THAT'S HOW INFECTIOUS IT IS. SO, PLEASE DO WHATEVER YOU DEEM NECESSARY TO PROTECT YOUR HEALTH AND SAFETY. ALL RIGHT, DISCUSSION. THE AMELIA RIVER COMMUNITY 
          [3.1 AMELIA RIVER COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADVISORY BOARD (CRAAB)]
REDEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD. THIS WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR CITY STAFF. 
          CITY MANAGER, YOU WANT TO TELL US WHY CITY STAFF PLACED THIS ON OUR WORKSHOP? 
          >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, IT WAS LEFT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF INDECISIVENESS ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH THE APPOINTMENT OF THE UM, CRA ADVISORY BOARD. UM, WE HAVE POSTED IT ON FOR JANUARY 4 AGENDA. AS IT STANDS NOW, THERE ARE FOUR CURRENT APPLICANTS THAT APPLIED FOR POSITIONS ON THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD, SO STAFF IS JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION. 
          I KNOW B& STUFF, IT IS ON THE AGENDA FOR JANUARY 4, SO JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU. LET ME RECAP OUR LAST DISCUSSION, IF I GET ANY PART OF THIS WRONG, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE CORRECT ME. 
          BUT MY BELIEF IS OUR DISCUSSION WAS TWOFOLD. ONE, SHOULD THE CITY HAVE CRAB UNDER ITS HOSPICES?OKAY? AND NOT BEING UNDER THE CRA EXECUTIVE BOARD, WHICH IS US. 
          THE ALTERNATIVE WAS A PROPOSAL BY MAIN STREET THAT HAS THEIR CRA SUBCOMMITTEE BE THAT ADVISORY BOARD. AND IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT, THE CONSENSUS WAS TO KEEP IT UNDER THE CITY HOSPICES. DID I CAPTURE THAT CORRECTLY? 
          ONE YES. VICE MAYOR? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I THINK YOU CAPTURED IT CORRECTLY, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER, THOUGH, WHICH WE ARE 
          DOING. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: YES, WE CAN CONTINUE. 
          SOB&. >> I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: YOU HAVE NO RECOLLECTION? OKAY. COMMISSIONER STURGES, IS THAT 
          YOUR THOUGHT? >> COMMISSIONER STURGES: PRETT SIMILAR TO THAT, MAYOR. 
          THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS WE DID TASK TO SEE IF MAIN STREET WOULD BE INTERESTED IN ENTERTAINING IT UNDER THEIR WING , BUT IT WAS ONE ORTHE OTHER , HOWEVER THE CASE MAY BE. AND OBVIOUSLY, WE DIDN'T TAKE AN EXACT DIRECTION, THAT'S WHY THE CITY MANAGER AND THE STAFF ARE LOOKING FOR AN EXACT DIRECTION. 
          UM, SO I DON'T THINK WE MADE A DECISION, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT AND WE NEVER CAME TO A 
          DECISION. THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY. 
          SO, LET ME SAY THE FOLLOWING. WE ORIGINALLY, WE ORIGINALLY DID SAY WE WERE GOING TO REFORM AT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING, THE CRA EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          WE VOTED TO ESTABLISH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. X CORRECT. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY, AND THEN WE WENT OUT AND SAID AND INSTRUCTED THE CITY CLERK TO TAKE APPLICATIONS FOR CANDIDATES TO THAT COMMITTEE. OKAY? THAT WAS FOLLOWED BY WORKSHOP DISCUSSION, WHICH I JUST REFERENCED. 
          >> CORRECT. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY, SO THAT BRINGS US TO TODAY, AND I JUST WANT TO PUT THIS PROVISO. WE ARE CONFUSING THE HECK OUT OF THE PUBLIC. 
          BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHETHER TO APPLY FOR THIS OR WHETHER IT MAIN STREET IS GOING TO BE THE ADVISORY BOARD.SO, WE NEED TO GET SOME CLEAR DIRECTION, UM, AND WE NEED TO GET IT NOW. OKAY. AT THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION. 
          WE NEED TO HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION WHICH WAY WE ARE GOING. SO, VICE MAYOR, YOU HAVE THE 
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          FLOOR, SIR. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: YEAH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I THINK SHE SAID 20 PERCENT OF HER JOB WAS TO COORDINATE WITH MAIN STREET AND SHE JUST SET UP DOCUMENTS OF ALL OF THAT. I THINK ONE OF THE USES WITH MAIN STREET IS THAT IT DOESN'T FALL UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT OR COMMITTEE. AND THAT'S SOME OF THE PROBLEM. 
          IF WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, PRIOR TO ACCEPTING ANY APPLICATIONS, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A FIRM JOB DESCRIPTION, EXACTLY WHAT 
          THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY, THANK YOU, SIR. 
          COMMISSIONER STURGES? >> COMMISSIONER STURGES: MAYOR, I THINK WE JUST GO AHEAD AND INSTEAD OF MUDDYING THE WATERS SO MUCH WITH THE MAIN STREET TALK AND AS TRYING TO CONDENSE THINGS, JUST, UM, GO AHEAD AND NOMINATE A CRA BOARD AND HAVE THEM ANSWER DIRECTLY TO US. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S A SIMPLE SOLUTION. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY. 
          >> COMMISSIONER STURGES: THAT'S MY OPINION. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, 
          CIRCUIT COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I WOULD AGREE WITH VICE MAYOR KREGER. 
          I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE ADVISORY BOARD WOULD DO. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHY WE WOULD B& WHAT WOULD BE THEIR MISSION? HOW WOULD THEY B. 
          [COUGHING] WHAT WOULD THEY BE TASKED WITH DOING? BECAUSE BASICALLY, THE CRA, UM, IS PUTTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE, MOST OF THAT IS ALREADY SOMEWHAT IN THE HOPPER. 
          SO, WHAT WOULD THE TASK OF A CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE BE? AND I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO HEAR, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE. FROM MY FELLOW CITY COMMISSIONERS, AS TO WHAT THEY BELIEVE, HOW THEY WOULD HELP. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE DONE AND THE CRA. HOW WOULD THIS ADVISORY BOARD HELP WITH THAT TASK? WHAT ADVICE WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO GIVE US? OR IS IT JUST TO HAVE THE CRA MEET AND THEN BRING IN IF THERE IS ASPECIAL PROJECT OR A SPECIAL MEETING , GET THAT HOT COMMITTEE OR WHOEVER IT IS THAT YOU NEED. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW B& BECAUSE I USED TO GO TO THE CRA MEETINGS AND I WASN'TB& THEY WERE SORT OF B& NO REAL DIRECTION AS TO WHAT THEY WERE MEETING ABOUT, SOB& I WOULD JUS LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AS THEY PROCEED, HOW THIS BOARD WOULD FUNCTION AND WHAT ITS PURPOSE WOULD BE. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: SO, WE ARE GOING OVER OLD ROUTE. SO, IF WHAT YOU WOULD RECALL IN THE CRA EXECUTIVE MEETING, I SAID THE FOLLOWING: THAT ONCE CONSTITUTED, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BOARD COME UP WITH THEIR YEAR ONE OBJECTIVES AND THE PLAN TO MEET THEIR OBJECTIVES. SO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER ROSS, I THINK THE BODY SETS THEIR AGENDA OF WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY GOING TO DO AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DO 
          IT. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME? 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: I AM LOOKING AT YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I DON'T HAVE MY LIGHT ON. [LAUGHING] WELL, THAT'S GOOD, BUT THE CRA SETS THE OBJECTIVES. AND I THINK, UM, AND THE BOARD IS THERE TO ADVISE THEM ON THOSE OBJECTIVES. SO, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO ADVISE, WHY ARE THEYB& WHY ARE WE GETTING A COMMITTEE TO GIVE US INDEPENDENT OBJECTIVES? 
          UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: COMMISSIONER STURGES? 
          >> COMMISSIONER STURGES: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK SOME OF THE DIRECTION WOULD BE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND/OR WORK WITH THE WATERFRONT, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE CRA IS THE WATERFRONT. UM, SO EVEN THOUGH THE ELEMENTS ARE WHAT THEY ARE WITH MAIN STREET, UM, AND THE ONLY CUT OFF 20 PERCENT OF THEIR TIME FOR THE CRA PORTION, WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING, I THINK THE MAIN OBJECTIVE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC ONE IS, UM, SOMEBODY ON THAT BOARD TO REPRESENT THE DEVELOPMENT, THE ATTRIBUTES, THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO SHOOT FOR IN THE WATERFRONT. UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S NOT A LARGE AMOUNT OF PARTIALS THAT INVOLVE THE CRA, HOWEVER, UM, IF WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC AND WE DO HAVE A BOARD, IF WE ESTABLISHED AS A CRA MAINBOARD, WHAT OUR GOALS ARE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, THEN THEY JUST NEED TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH IT. SO, I THINK IT'S KIND OF SELF-EXPLANATORY. HOWEVER, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTIES IN THE CRA. 
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          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: CAN I RESPOND? >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: YES, SIR. 
          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: WILL ACTUALLY, THERE'S ABOUT 65 A HALF OF THEM OVER BY THE CITY. 
          BUT THE CRA BASICALLY B& WHAT W HAD TALKED ABOUT IS COMING UP WITH SOME PRINCIPLES FOR WHAT WE WANT, AND BASICALLYB WELL, LET'S TAKE THE FIRST PRINCIPLE, PUTTING IN A WATERFRONT RESILIENCY. OKAY? WE ALL AGREED TO THAT. 
          SO, HOW WOULD THIS ADVISORY BOARD, WHAT WOULD THEY BE TASKED WITHDOING ? OR HOW WOULD THEY HELP THE CRA TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL? BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL ARE ENGINEER , UM, AND THAT TYPE OF PERSON, SO, WE KNOW WE WANT WATERFRONT RESILIENCY, AND SO, HOWB WHAT KIND OF EXPERTISE ARE THEY GOING TO OFFER TO FURTHER THAT GOAL? AND THAT'S WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: IT IS A GOT YOU QUESTION, BECAUSE I THINK COMMISSIONER STURGES ARTICULATING, UM, I HAVE MET WITH A COUPLE FOLKS, MCLEAN, MS. CLIFFORD ABOUT THE CRA, THERE'S TALK ABOUT EXPANDING. OKAY? HOW FAR, HOW MUCH, SHOULD WE? 
          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? I MEAN, THEY DON'T WANT THE CRAB WE ARE READY WENT THROUGH THAT, SO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S, UM, WHEN WE HAD THE COMMITTEE THAT LOOKED AT CHARTER. AND CORRECT MY MEMORY IF I AM 
          WRONG, YOU WERE ON THAT COMMITTEEB. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, I 
          CAN'T RESPOND TO THAT, BUT I CAN RESPOND LATER. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: WE'VE 
          ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE FACT THAT NOBODY WANTS TO DO THAT. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: FROM MY SEAT, YOU ARE MAKING THE ARGUMENT THAT WE DON'T EVEN NEED MAIN STREET. 
          THEN WHY WOULD WE NEED MAIN STREET EVEN LOOKED AT? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU AND THAT IF THERE IS A QUESTION THAT COMES UP THAT WE SHOULD APPROACH MAIN STREET. IF THERE'S A QUESTION THAT COMES UP, WE SHOULD APPROACH 
          THE PUBLIC COULD I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. >> COMMISSIONER BEAN: TO CLARIFY THE POINT ABOUT THE CHARTER, I BELIEVE WHAT OUR VOTERS SAID IN THE CHARTER IS THAT THERE WOULD BE NO CRA. IT DOESN'T REALLY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT OUR CURRENT CRA, AND THAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION. AND I BELIEVE BOTH THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER STURGES MADE EXCELLENT POINTS THAT I WOULD COMPLETELY AGREE WITH, BUT THIS COMMITTEE B& WHAT THE CRAB WILL DO TO HELP B IT'S THE EXPERTISE OF THE PEOPLE OF FERNANDINA BEACH. 
          WE NEED TO GET INPUT, AND THAT COMES FROM THE PEOPLE, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BOARD IS ALL ABOUT, IS PROVIDING CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT ON SOMETHING THAT NEEDS THAT. 
          AND IF THIS MAKES THIS BOARD'S DIRECTION CLEARER, I WOULDADD MY VOICE WITH STURGES AND THE 
          MAYOR . THERE WE GO. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: VICE MAYOR? 
          >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I AGREE. YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, I SEE NO VALUE IN HAVING ANOTHER ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, IT IS MOSTLY INFRASTRUCTURE, AND I ACTUALLY AGREED WITH THE OTHER POINT, EVEN MAIN STREET BEING INVOLVED. AT SOME POINT, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT MAIN STREET, BUT NOT TONIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANOTHER 
          ADVISORY BOARD. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, SIR. 
          COMMISSIONER STURGES? >> COMMISSIONER STURGES: WELL, THERE'S OTHER THINGS AT THE WATERFRONT, OTHER THAN STRUCTURE. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD ALOT OF DEBATE IN THE CRA , WITH SOMEBODY WANTING ANOTHER RESTAURANT ON THE NORTH AND INSIDE. WHICH CITIZENS WANT THAT OR WHICH CITIZENS WANT A DIFFERENT AREA TO USE DOWN THERE, LIKE A DOG OR A WATERFRONT OR A WALKING DOCK, SO THERE'S OTHER ISSUES DOWN THE OTHER THAN JUST THE SEAWALL. I'M JUST POINTING THAT OUT. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY. UM, CITY MANAGER, THE NEXT CRA EXECUTIVE, REMIND ME OF THE 
          DATE OF THAT MEETING, PLEASE. >> JANUARY 18. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY, SO THE NEXT CRA EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING IS ON JANUARY 18. 
          I WOULD B& GIVEN THIS CONVERSATION, WHERE IT IS 3:2, I DON'T HEAR OVERWHELMING DEMAND FOR AN ADVISORY GROUP. AND I SAY WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE EXECUTIVE MEETING JANUARY 18, AND LET'S COME TO A FINAL RESOLUTION OF YES, NO, WE DON'T NEED THIS. 
          YES, SIR? >> WITH THAT, STAFF SUPPORTS THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE ON THE JANUARY 4 AGENDA B& WE WILL MOV THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE BOARD TO B& DO YOU WANT IT THAT SAME 
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EVENING ON JANUARY 18 IF YOU DECIDE TO GO FORWARD? OR DO YOU WANT IT IN THE FIRST 
          MEETING OF FEBRUARY? >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: I WOULDSAY LET'S DECIDE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL . LET'S NOT KEEP THESE PEOPLE WAITING IN THIS QUEUE OF IS THIS THING GOING TO HAPPEN, NOT HAPPEN? LET'S MAKE A DECISION HERE. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. COMMISSIONERS? >> I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          IF IT WAS ESTABLISHED AND VOTED ONB&. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: 
          COMMISSIONER BEAN? >> COMMISSIONER BEAN: THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          I FEEL WE HAVE THE SUPPORT RIGHT NOW TO SALVAGE THE COMMITTEE AND WE ARE TO HAVE FOUR APPLICANTS, AND RIGHT NOW, IF WE DELETE IT, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS FOUR APPLICANTS WAIT A MONTH TO GET STARTED AND I WOULD PAUSEB I KNOW WE HAVE ALL SEEN SIMILAR EMAILS, BECAUSE I SEE YOUR RECEIPTS ON THOSE, THERE'S OTHER APPLICANTS, MAYBE SOME ARE IN THE ROOM WITH US TONIGHT, THAT WOULD HAVE APPLIED, BUT WE GAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE NOT MOVING FORWARD. IF WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND LEAVE THE APPLICATIONS OPEN IF WE DECIDE ON JANUARY 18 AND WE HAVE A FULL SLATE, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND APPOINT THAT TIME. 
          GIVEN THAT THERE IS DEMAND FOR THIS, I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE IT TO THE PEOPLE. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I WOULD DEFER ANY RECRUITMENT UNTIL AFTER A DECISION IS MADE. A NUMBER TWO, IF WE ARE GOING TO DECIDE TO DO THE BOARD, MEMBER, THERE ARE CERTAIN CATEGORIES THAT ARE IN THE LEGISLATION THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO APPLY FOR THAT CATEGORY. SO, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE CLEAR TO STAFF WHEN ANYBODY IS APPLYING WHICH CATEGORY THEY ARE APPLYING FOR. 
          BECAUSE IT B& THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS MADE BACK IN 2012 IS SPECIFIC. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT, SO THE GO FORWARD PLAN IS TO HAVE THIS IN THE JANUARY CRA EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          FOR A VOTE. AND THEN IF APPROVED, THEN WE WILL APPOINT CANDIDATES AT THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETIN . AGREED? 
          >> WELL, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS WE ARE SAYING TO PEOPLE TO APPLY, BUT WE DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS. AND WHY NOT WAIT A MONTH AFTER THE TWO GET PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT CRITERIA, BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT AND RECRUIT THESE PEOPLE. I MEAN, IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE, FINDING PEOPLE WHO 
          WILL FILL THOSE CRITERIA MAY BE DIFFICULT. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: I THINK THAT'S A FAIR POINT. MY ONLY CONCERN, COMMISSIONER ROSS, IS THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING PERIOD THE CRA MEETING, OUR LAST MEETING WAS TWO MONTHS AGO.THIS WILL BE THREE MONTHS THAT WE HAVE KEPT THEM INTO. NOW, GRANTED, NOT ALL OF THEM APPLIED AT THE SAME TIME, BUT SOME OF THEM, I AGREE, THE ISSUE IS DO WE WANT THEM TO WAIT ANOTHER MONTH? FOLLOWING THAT, AND I'M LOOKING AT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. 
          I HAVE ONE. >> IF THESE PEOPLE ARE WAITING IN THE WINGS, THEY WOULD BE WAITING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION. SO, WHAT WHEN WE MAKE THE DECISION, THAT'S WHEN WE CAN RESPOND, AND WE CAN EVALUATE ALL OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME TO SEE IF THEY MEET THE CRITERIA AND WHO IS BEST QUALIFIED. IF WE PUT THE EXISTING ONES ON, WE MAY MISS ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING TO APPLY IF THEY ARE. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: SO, IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, I HAVE ONE WAIT A MONTH, ONE APPOINT 
          THEMB&. >> NO, WAIT A MONTH. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: I SEE, SO I 
          HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH. COMMISSIONER BEAN? >> COMMISSIONER BEAN: I WOULD LIKETO KEEP THE APPLICATIONS OPEN , SO IF WE VOTE YES IN JANUARY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO APPOINT IMMEDIATELY, SO I WOULD SAY LET'S DO THAT. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE WE WERE TALKING TO THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THIS, AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED, THEY KNOW TO APPLY, AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND APPOINT, SO THAT IS MY VOTE. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: COMMISSIONER STURGES? >> COMMISSIONER STURGES: I AGREE, THE SAME THING, I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP AN OPEN PIT ANIMAL ABOUT KEEPING IT OPEN. 
          AND AS SOON AS WE CAN COME APPOINT. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: SO, THAT'S 
          WAIT A MONTH? THAT'S A POINT? >> COMMISSIONER STURGES: I DON'T WANT TO WAIT. SO YOU WANT TO APPOINT IN JANUARY? 
          >> COMMISSIONER STURGES: YEAH. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY, SO ON. 
          CRA EXECUTIVE MEETING, ONE, A VOTE ON DO WE HAVE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE? 
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THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO IS IF WE DO, WE APPOINT AT THAT MEETING OR DO WE WAIT A MONTH? SO, WE WILL VOTE ON BOTH OF THOSE, NUMBER TWO BEING DEPENDENT ON NUMBER ONE. CORRECT? OKAY. 
          ANY OTHERB CITY MANAGER? X JUST TO BE CLEAR, APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN. 
          THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS ABOUT IT IS CLOSED OR KEEP THEM OPEN. 
          APPLICATIONS, IT'S POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE THAT IF YOU WISH TO APPLY, APPLY. 
          SO, APPLICATIONS ARE NOT CLOSED. SO, IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED, 
          THEY CAN APPLY. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, SIR. 
          ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 3.1? NONE, WE WILL MOVE TO 3.2. 
          [3.2 ADVISORY BOARD/COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT RANKING]
ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENT MAKINGS. SO, IF YOU WILL RECALL ON OUR COMMISSIONER APPOINTMENT RANKINGS, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION AND IT WASN'T VERY, UM, SMOOTH, CLEAR, AND WHAT I WOULD CALL EFFECTIVE. SO, HOW ARE WE GOING TO CAST OUR VOTES ON COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS? THAT'S A QUESTION, WHAT IS THE 
          PROCESS? COMMISSIONER STURGES? >> COMMISSIONER STURGES: I THINK THAT, UM, IF WE HAVE B I WILL JUST BE VERY SUBTLE WITH THE DIRECTIONS, SO I CAN MAKE SURE IT STAYS SIMPLE. SO, IF WE HAVE THREE APPOINTMENTS AND WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE, UM, APPLYING FOR THESE THREE APPOINTMENTS, THEN IN MY OPINION, WE JUST B& EVERYBODY VOTES FOR THE TOP THREE. AND THAT'S IT. AND THEN, UM, THAT SHOULD MAKE IT FAIRLY SIMPLE. UM, JUSTIN THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT, THAT COULD CUT THE 
          CONFUSION. SOB& THAT'S MY OPINION. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: VICE MAYOR? 
          >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT. I WANT TO DO IT THE WAY WE USED TO DO IT. IT USED TO BE THE COMMITTEES THEMSELVES WOULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION. AND WE GOT INTO TROUBLE BECAUSE WE GOT INTO THE GAME OF FIRST-COME, FIRSTB AND THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. SOB& WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD ANY CONFUSION LAST TIME IF EVERYBODY HAD FILLED OUT THE FORMS. BUT WE HAD TO COMMISSIONERS WHO DIDN'T, AND THAT THROUGH THE NUMBERS OFF. 
          WE PICK THE THREE. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROSS? 
          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: IT'S JUST NOT ONE, TWO, THREE. YOU PUT THREE AXES. 
          THIS THREE SLOTS, FIVE PEOPLE. YOU PUT AN X. THE CAVEAT IS YOU CAN'T PUT MORE THAN ONE X AND ONE BOX. IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO PUT AN X IN THE BOX, THEY GET A BIG FAT ZERO. SO, AND WE ALL HAVE TO AGREE. SO, YOU CAN'T SAY WHAT WE USED TO CALL IN ELECTIONS SINGLE SHOT IN. SOB& I WOULD AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER STURGES, BUT IT'S NOT A ONE, TWO, THREE, IT IS THREE AXES AND THAT'S IT. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: VOTE PER CANDIDATE.>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: ONE NEXT PER CANDIDATE. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: WE AGREE? COMMISSIONER BEAN? >> COMMISSIONER BEAN: THIS IS THE PERFECT VOTING SYSTEM, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE ENVISIONED FROM THEBEGINNING, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT WAY TO SIGN. IT'S A SIMPLE , SIMPLE WAY TO VOTE, AND ITHINK B& . 
          [COUGHING] I'M GLAD WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE HERE. IT'S GOINGALL RIGHT, SO THE PROCEDURE IS THE NUMBER OF OPENINGS IS THE NUMBER OF VOTES YOU HAVE , LIMITED TO ONE VOTE PER CANDIDATE. DID I ARTICULATE THAT CORRECTLY? OKAY. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. 
          [3.3 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS ON CONSTRUCTION SITES]
THREE-POINT FREE, LAND DEVELOPMENT, CODE REQUIREMENTS AT CONSTRUCTION SITES. 
          UM, THIS IS ON THE REQUEST OF THE CITYCOMMISSION. CITY MANAGER ? 
          >> VICE MAYOR KREGER HAD SOME SLIDES TO SHOW, SOB& OKAY, THAN YOU, SIR. 
          AND VICE MAYOR, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED WHEN YOUR SLIDES COME UP. 
          >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: ACTUALLY, THIS ACTUALLY WAS COVERED TWO OR THREE MEETINGS AGO WHEN THE CITY ENGINEER B& INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD WORK WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND HUMAN RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPLIED. HUGE OVERLAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHY WE ARE DOING THIS. THERE'S TWO HOUSES ON FIRST 
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AVENUE THAT BROUGHT THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT. THOSE TWO SETS OF PICTURES HERE. ONE IS FROM SEPTEMBER WHEN IT CAME UP AND THE OTHER IS FROM 19 DECEMBER, A COUPLE DAYS AGO. AND THIS IS IN THE LAND DEVELOPING CODE. 
          >> THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY, WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER CRITERIA AND SEE IF WE CAN DO MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPERTIES RIGHTS. THIS WAS A HOUSE ON THE END OF SEPTEMBER, AND YOUCAN SEE ALL OF THIS YEAR . JUST GO TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          >> CAN YOU PACK UP?SCRAPE THE BOTTOM OF IT. THANK YOU. 
          >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: WHAT KIND OF RETAINING WALLS ARE THEY GOING TO DO? TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT, DEPENDING ON THE CONSTRUCTION. SO, THE NEXT ONE, THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING HOUSE. THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE IS A BLOCK SOUTH ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET, AND THIS IS A PROTECTION. IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS THE FIRST HOUSE, AGAIN, WHERE NOW THEY ARE JUST DOING MORE OUT. AND SO AGAIN, THERE WAS B& IF YOU LOOK CLOSE, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE VEGETATION, TREES ARE FALLING. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE AGAIN. 
          AND THIS IS THE OTHERHOUSE . CITY ENGINEER HAS TAUGHT TO THEM AND TOLD UM, THIS IS NOT SUITABLE. THIS IS A STRANGE HOUSE, THIS HOUSE IS ACTUALLY 55 FEET TALL, BECAUSE THE BASE LEVEL WAS IN THE MIDST OF THE DUNES. AND WHAT'S ULTIMATELY GOING TO HAPPEN IS THIS IS GOING TO COME BACKB& YOU CAN SEE THE TREES FALLING NOW, AND THAT'S NOT CONSISTENTB& YOU KNOW, A RETAINING WALL WOULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THAT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THE CITY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO GET DONE, AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. 
          IT'S A GOOD THING. THAT'S IT. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: 
          COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: SO, IS THE ISSUE LACK OF REGULATION OR IS THE ISSUE LACK OF ENFORCING APPROPRIATE LAYER OF REGULATION THAT'S ALREADY THERE? 
          OR BOTH? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE UNDER THE BUILDING COMPARTMENT, THE CODE, THE DLC REVIEW, AND THEN ENFORCEMENT. 
          I THINK IT'S A LITTLE OF BOTH. BUT ACCORDING TO CITY ENGINEERS, THEY CAN EFFECTIVELY 
          GET THESE THINGS DONE. AND MONITOR IT. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: SO, EFFECTIVELY GET THESE THINGS DONE MEANS THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE REGULATION NOW THAT'S NOT BEING ENFORCED? OR GET THESE THINGS DONE MEANS THATB&. 
          >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: WILL OBVIOUSLY, THEY ARE NOT BEING ENFORCED.OB. 
          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: WHAT YOU'RE TELLING MEB THERE IS NO REGULATION THAT CAN'T BE 
          ENFORCED. >> THERE ARE REGULATIONS. WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IS ON THEIR PLANS THAT THEY SUBMIT, THEY WILL SHOW A RETAINING WALL, AND WE JUST HAVEN'T DONE OUR DILIGENCE IN DETERMINING IS THAT A TEMPORARY WALL, IS IT A PERMANENT WALL, IS IT A STRUCTURAL WALL, IS IT NOT A STRUCTURAL WALL? SO, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW. 
          WE ARE GOING TO CREATE B& WHAT STRUCTURAL WALL NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE MATERIALS ARE, WHAT HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS THERE ARE, BECAUSE IT ALL DEPENDS ON TWO FEET OR IS IT EIGHT FEET? SO, WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING THOSE PARAMETERS OUT, SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT DURING THE PERMIT PROCESS, SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT THERE LIKE WE DID THIS PAST WEEK, AND PROVIDE A PRETTY PICTURE OF WHAT A WALL WAS THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. 
          WE ARE DRILLING DOWN MORE INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT AND MAKE SURE IT GETS COMBINED, BUT THERE ARE B& REGULATIONS OR REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND IN THE 
          CODE TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE SUBSTANTIAL. >> AND SHOULD THOSE WALLS BE 
          REFLECTED ON THE PLANS? >> YES, AND MOST OF THE TIME, WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY SHOW A LINE, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF FINDING OUT, IS THAT A TEMPORARY LINE, IS IT A PERMANENT LINE, IS IT STRUCTURAL? SO, WE ARE GETTING INTO THOSE 
          DETAILS TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN ANYMORE. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ON THREE-POINT FREE? 
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NONE? 3.4, VISION B& THIS IS PLACED O THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF 
          [3.4 VISION 2045]
STAFF. CITY MANAGER, WALK US THROUGH THIS, PLEASE. 
          >> CITY MANAGER: THE STAFF JUST DESIRES DIRECTION ON HOW TO PROCEED. 
          MS. GIBSON SHARED SOME COMMENTS WITH YOU, EXPANDING THE PUBLIC OUTREACH, AND WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE WITH REGARD TO THE VISION STATEMENT? WHICH IS WHAT STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH TO CONSULT WTI, SO, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT IT AT THE LAST MEETING, AS TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED BY WTI. AND SO BASICALLY, THIS IS YOUR PROJECT AND HOW DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE VISIONING PLA , IT SETS THE FOUNDATION B& OR VISIONING STATEMENT SETS THE FOUNDATION FOR THE PLAN, WHICH IN TURN TRANSITIONS TO CHANGES TO THE LV SEE, SOB WE ARE JUST KIND ABOUT A CROSSROADS AS TO WHAT ARE YOUR EXPECTATIONS FOR THE VISIONING STATEMENT? AND MS. GIBSON IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: ALL RIGHT, SO, THE CITY MANAGER AND I DISCUSSED THIS YESTERDAY. 
          UM, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANNING AND CONSERVATION DIRECTOR DOES NOT TAKE THIS AS CRITICISM OF HER. IT IS NOT, IT IS CRITICISM OF WTI. 
          AND I WATCHED THE PA PRESENTATION AND WAS FLABBERGASTED THAT ALL THEY DID ON THE DRAFT WAS PRESENT THE METHODOLOGY. THEY DID NOT PRESENT ANY OF THE RESULTS. AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE OF THE MEETING, EXPECTING TO SEE THE DRAFT. AND SOME OVERVIEW OF THE DRAFT. AND THAT WAS NOT DONE. 
          UM, SO I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THAT AND I HEARD THE VOICE NEAR SPEAK ABOUT THAT VERY PROBLEM. UM, VICE MAYOR WAS IN ATTENDANCE. 
          AND THEN I THINK THE SECOND ISSUE BEFORE US IS A COMMENTARY., WE ALL RECEIVED MS. GIBSON'S EMAIL.THE COMMENTARY WAS DURING THE HOLIDAYS. 
          PEOPLE ARE FOCUSED ON THE 2045 VISION, THEY ARE FOCUSED ON FAMILY AND CHRISTMAS AND THE HOLIDAYS AND NEW YEAR'S. SO, AND WE ONLY HAVE FIVE RESPONSES. 
          SO, I BELIEVE ANOTHER PART OF THIS DISCUSSION IS EXTENDING THE COMMENT PERIOD. 
          FURTHER. SO WE GET MORE COMMENTS. AND HOW DO WE GET MORE ROBUST INPUT? BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMMENTS SECTION, OKAY, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WRITE NINE PARAGRAPHS, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A BULLET. 
          SO, HOW DO WE GET MORE ROBUST INPUT INTO THE VISION? SO, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I SAW. THAT'S WHY I SAY WE NEED TO DISCUSS. 
          VICE MAYOR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: UM, FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE, I THINK EVERYBODY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT. I ALSO AGREE, WE NEED TO PRESERVE THE INPUT TIME. 
          I WANT TO SAY A LITTLE MORE, AS WE TALK ABOUT OUR MISSION, SIGNIFICANTLY, OUR MISSION IS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.AS IT STANDS FOR OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ACTUALLY A RELATIVELY GOOD PLAN. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS, UM, ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED, WE TOLD THEM, WE KNEW ALL THE INFORMATION SPECIFICALLY, ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT WGI PRESENTED.UR STAFF KNEW THAT. 
          AND SO AT THIS POINT, I THINK DISCUSSIONS OF USING A CONSULTANT SHOULD BE OFF THE TABLE AND WE SHOULD MOVE TO IN-HOUSE. AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IS B& PUTTING STUFF INTO PROPER PRIORITY OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO, UM, FOR THE PLAN, AND SPECIFICALLY, LV SEE AND START MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. WEDON'T HAVE TO REWRITE THE PLAN . OUR PLAN, WE HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED IT'S A PRETTY GOOD PLAN, WE NEED TO UPDATE AND MAKE SOME CHANGES. PARKS AND REC'S STUFF WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BUT OVERALL, I THINK WE CAN BRING THAT IN-HOUSE AND MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND IF WE NEED MORE INPUT, I THINK THERE ARE EFFECTIVE WAYS TO DO THAT. 
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I LIKE THE CITIZENS SURVEY PROCESS. WE HAVE GOT TO WORK CORRECTLY. 
          BUT I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD IN BRINGING IN-HOUSE, AND OUR STAFF IS MORE THAN 
          CAPABLE OF DOING THAT. ONE COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: SO, WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING WAS A VISION STATEMENT, A VISION STATEMENT ISUSUALLY A DECLARED PARAGRAPH, AND I DID NOT WRITE THIS , THAT BASICALLY, I MEAN, I WILL READ IT TO YOU, THIS IS 
          WHAT I THINK THE VISION STATEMENT IS. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: MR. ROSS, 
          CAN YOU TELL US THE SOURCE?>> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I WOULD PREFER NOT TO. 
          IT'S NOT ME, OKAY? THE RESIDENTS OF FERNANDINA BEACH BELIEVE THAT THE CITY IS AN EXCEPTIONAL PLACE TO FURTHER PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE DESIRED QUALITY OF LIFE AVAILABLE IN THE CITY FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS. OFFICIALS AND RESIDENTS PLEDGED TO CONSERVE AND ACQUIRE ASSETS. 
          TO SUPPORT A DIVERSE ECONOMIC BASE OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES TO MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF EMERGENCIES AND DISASTERS, AND TO PROMOTE THE CITY AS AN INCLUSIVE AND ATTRACTIVE COMMUNITY FOR ALL PEOPLE. 
          THIS ISB WHAT A VISION STATEMENT IS. WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT TO BE A VISION STATEMENT. I AM NOT ADVOCATING THIS AS THE VISION STATEMENT. 
          I DO AGREE WITH VICE MAYOR KREGER THAT WE SPENT $75,000 AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT FOR OUR MONEY, AND I THINK WE SHOULD PART WAYS WITH THE CONSULTANT IMMEDIATELY. 
          I THINK OVER THE NEXT 90 DAYS, WHAT I WOULD PREFER IS THAT THE STAFF AND THE PAD AND THE PUBLIC COME TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A SHORT DECLARATIVE SENTENCE AS OUR LODESTONE THAT DIRECTS HOW YOU ARE GOING TO DO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DOB SO, THAT'S WHEN THE VISION STATEMENT IS. I MEAN, THEY HAVE A VISION STATEMENT MADE CAN PUT IT UP ON THAT BOARD. VISION STATEMENT, THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE FOCUS SHOULD BE. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE, UM, AND COME UP WITH A STATEMENT THAT SHOWS, WHAT DO THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WANT 20 YEARS FROM NOW? IT'S NOT REAL DIFFICULT. 
          YOU HEAR THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. YOU WANT QUALITY OF LIFE, WE WANT THE SMALL TOWN ATMOSPHERE, WE WANT CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER, WE WANT A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, AND PEOPLE THINK THAT NOW AND THEY WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. SO, A SHORT DECLARATIVE STATEMENT THAT YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, ARE WEFOLLOWING THIS VISION? ARE WE FOLLOWING THIS WHENEVER WE DO SOMETHING? AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WOULD TASK THE PAB AND THE STAFF , AND ENFORCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUBLIC. 
          THERE IS A PAPER THAT GOES INTO ALL KINDS OF THINGS, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE A WILDLIFE BOARD AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS, THAT'S NOT A VISION STATEMENT. THAT'S A VISION STATEMENT. 
          THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON. AND, UM, WE'VE GOT $25,000 LEFT IF THEY NEED SOME KIND OF EXPERTISE OR SOMETHING, THAT'S FINE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD 
          TASK THE STAFF AND THE PAB. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: VICE MAYOR? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I AGREE. 
          YOU KNOW? >> I AGREE, THIS STATEMENT IS FINE. 
          I ONLY HAVE ONE ISSUE WITH THIS STATEMENT. I'M GOOD. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?COMMISSIONER BEAN? >> COMMISSIONER BEAN: THANK YOU. OUR $75,000 GOT US THIS STATEMENT. 
          IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, WE HAVE A STARTING POINT. I WOULD POSIT, INSTEAD OF USING THIS STATEMENT HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SOURCE ON IT BEFORE WE STARTED WITH THIS STATEMENT. I WOULD START WITH THAT STATEMENT, DEPENDING ON WHO THE SOURCE WAS. THAT'S THE STATEMENT I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH.> MAYOR 
          LEDNOVICH: COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, IT WASN'T TO BE INCLUSIVE OR USED OR ANYTHING ELSE, THIS IS WHAT A VISION STATEMENT IS. 
          AND WHETHER IT'S THIS ONE, THIS ONE, OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO COME UP WITH, THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT THIS WHOLE THING, SOMEHOW, THIS WHOLE THING GOT OUT OF CONTROL, SOB. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: COMMISSIONER STURGES? >> COMMISSIONER STURGES: I THINK I AGREE WITH BRADLEY AND WITH LYNN AND WITH CHIP. THAT WE JUST NEED A SIMPLE STATEMENT FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA AND ITS RESIDENTS, AND I, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GROUP AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE'VE SPENT. ULTIMATELY, I THINK WE JUST 
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NEED SOME WAY TO GET MORE INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS AND THE STAFF AND JUSTB& WITH THE PAB BOARD, AND JUST TWEAK WHAT WE HAVE AND WORK WITH IT. THERE'S REALLY NO NEED TO GO OUT OF CONTROL, UM, IT'S JUST A VISION STATEMENT, AND WE ALL KNOW WHY WE LOVE IT HERE, BECAUSE WE ARE HERE. WE LOVE IT HERE BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BE AND WE WANT OUR ENVIRONMENT TO STAY THE SAME, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 20 YEARS FROM NOW. 
          SO, THAT'S IT. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: ALL RIGHT, SO SPECIFICALLY, AS WE HAVE TALKED IN GENERAL, UM, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, NOW, THE PAB HASN'T EVEN TAKEN A STAB AT THIS POINT THEY JUST GOT IT AT OUR LAST MEETING. SO, UM, I AM MAKING THE ASSUMPTION, AND I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS, THAT WE ARE GOING TO LET THE PAB, UM, WORK ON THIS DOCUMENT. OKAY? WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH IT. 
          INCLUDING ONCE ALL THE PUBLIC INPUT IS GATHERED. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: BY DOCUMENT, YOU MEAN THAT KIND OF STATEMENT? NOT THE TWO INCHES OF PAPER 
          THATB&. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: WHEN I SAY THE DOCUMENT, THERE'S 44 PAGES HERE, SO WHAT THE PAB AGREES WITH, WHAT THEY DON'T AGREE WITH, WHAT THEY THINK IS 
          MISSING. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: CAN I RESPOND? 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: WHAT I AM PROPOSING IS A SIMPLE ONE PARAGRAPH STATEMENT, THAT'S IT. ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, THESE PAGES AND PAGES IS FOR CONFERENCE OF PLAN, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR IS A SIMPLE VISION STATEMENT, ONE PARAGRAPH. HALF A SHEET OF PAPER. 
          THIS IS OUR LODESTONE, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GO. AND THEN ALL THIS OTHER, WE CAN PUT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, BUT THAT IS THE DOCUMENT THAT I'M 
          TALKING ABOUT. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: I'M GOING TO LET THE PAB FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: BECAUSE THEY CAME TO US AND ASKED FOR DIRECTION, YOU ASKED ME FOR 
          DIRECTION, THAT'S MY DIRECTION. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THAT'S YOUR DIRECTION. 
          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: I KNOW. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: VICE MAYOR? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I THINK THE MISSION STATEMENT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR, WE MOVE FROM THAT POINT WHAT I ALREADY SAID, I THINK THE NEXT STEP IS TO IDENTIFY WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE PLAN AND PUT IN PRIORITIES. AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, OUR MAJOR ISSUE B& I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS EARLIER. TO ME, ONE OF MY MAJOR ISSUES IS THE IMPLEMENTATION. AND SO, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, ALONG WITH THE PRIORITIES, AND THAT'S THE NEXT STEP AFTER THE MISSION STATEMENT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT UNTIL 
          JUNE. ABOUT WHERE I AM. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC INPUT PART OF THIS.WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE AND HOW LONGSHOULD IT BE ? LET'S START WITH HOW LONG IT SHOULD BE. 
          THAT'S AN EASY ONE. COMMISSIONER BEAN? >> COMMISSIONER BEAN: THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, I THINK IT SHOULD BE LONGER THAN JUST THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AT LEAST A WEEK OR TWO ADDED, SO WE CAN GO INTO JANUARY AND GIVE THE 
          PUBLIC MORE TIME TO RESPOND TO THIS POINT. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY, I AM 
          HEARING A WEEK OR TWO. COMMISSIONER STURGES? >> COMMISSIONER STURGES: I 
          THINK 30 DAYS. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: AN ADDITIONAL 30 DAYS? THINK 
          JANUARY 5? SOUND RIGHT? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I THOUGHT THE STAFF RECOMMENDED FEBRUARY 2 OR SOMEWHERE IN THERE?> SO THAT WOULD BE AROUND 30 DAYS. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: SO, EXTEND IT 30 DAYS? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: YES. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY, THE OTHER SUGGESTION THAT HAS BEEN MADE IS THAT THE UM, THE CITY HAVING ACTUALLY A WORKSHOP WITH, UM, THE PUBLIC INVITED COMMIT TO TAKE THEIR INPUT. 
          UM, SO WE WOULD CALL A MEETING, MUCH LIKE OUR WORKSHOP MEETINGS, INVITE THE PUBLIC, AND GET THEIR INPUT ON THE 2045 PLAN, OR THE OVERRIDING MISSION STATEMENT IF THAT IS OUR FOCUS. 
          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: VISION STATEMENT. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 
          MISSION STATEMENTB. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: IS ABSOLUTELY A DIFFERENCE. 
          >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: THERE IS NOTHING SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT WORKSHOP IN JANUARY. 
          YOU WANT TO DO THAT? >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: NEXT WORKSHOP IN JANUARY? 
          HAVE THAT AS INPUT ON THE VISION STATEMENT? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: YES, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST B& DON'T TAKE ANY BREAKS. JANUARY WOULD BE EXCELLENT ON THE VISION STATEMENT. AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS I MADE, THE ROLL OUT WAS THE PAB WILL 
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ALSO, YOU KNOW, CAN HELP US ON THIS, I BELIEVE, WITH WORKSHOPS MOVING FORWARD, BUT I THINK 
          NEXT WORKSHOP WOULD BE FINE TO LOOK AT THE VISION STATEMENT. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY, EVERYBODY AGREE? OKAY, SO, THE NEXT WORKSHOP, THE NUMBER ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA WILL BE PUBLIC INPUT ON THE VISION STATEMENT OR THE VISION 2045 PLAN. 
          CORRECT? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: EXCEPT WE DON'T HAVE THE VISION 
          STATEMENT. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: WE HAVE THE ONEB WE HAVE THE ONE THAT WE PAID ALL THE MONEY FOR, OKAY? THAT'S THE START OF ONE. OKAY. 
          AND WE NEED TO PUBLICIZE THAT. SO EVERYONE CAN SEE IT. OKAY? SO WE NEED B& SO, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS, I WENT TO THE CITY WEBSITE. 
          THERE IS THE NEWS PART. OKAY? AND I'M GOINGB I AM NOT SEEING VISION 2045 IN THE NEWS, SO I GO TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND THEN I NOTICE IT ON THE LEFT COLUMN BELOW. SO, IF THIS IS TOP OF MIND, IT SHOULD BE ON OUR HOMEPAGE WITH AN ANNOUNCEMENT NOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC INPUT AT THE WORKSHOP, AND THAT VISION STATEMENT PROPOSED SHOULD BE FRONT AND CENTER. OKAY? GREAT. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE ON VISION 2045? 
          YES, SIR? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: ARE WE GOING TO PART WAYS WITH THE 
          CONSULTANT? >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: COMMISSIONERS? 
          I HAVE ONE YES. MR. BEAN? >> COMMISSIONER BEAN: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK B& SO, IT'S A FINAL $25,000 THAT WE HAVEN'T PAID THEM YET? AND MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT WERE YOU SUPPOSED TO GET FOR THAT $25,000? 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: CITY MANAGER, KEN MS. GIBSONB&. >> CITY MANAGER: I THINK MS. 
          GIBSON CAN TELL THE BEST ANSWER. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: I WAS 
          LOOKING TO THE EXPERT. >> MS. GIBSON: THE OUTSTANDING COMPONENTB I APOLOGIZE. 
          GIBSON, CONSERVATION DIRECTOR. AND THE OUTSTANDING COMPONENT IS REALLY JUST THE SUMMATION OF PUBLIC INPUT THAT IS RECEIVED ON THE DRAFT DOCUMENT AND FINALIZING THOSE DOCUMENTS, SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THEM AVAILABLE TO TAKE ACTION ON ANY FUTURE MEETING. 
          >> IF THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GET FOR $25,000, LET'S SAY NO. 
          >> COMMISSIONER STURGES: I AGREE. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: 
          COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> COMMISSIONER ROSS: INDUBITABLY. 
          >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU. SO, WE ARE IN CONSENSUS THAT WE WILL NOTIFY THE WGI. 
          THANK YOU, WE ARE DONE. AND CITY STAFF AND PAB WILL TAKE THIS FURTHER. 
          ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER, UM, TOPICS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AND THE REMAINING 10 MINUTES OF OUR WORKSHOP? WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED
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