Nov 02, 2021 Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> CALLED TO ORDER THE NOVEMBER 2, 2021 MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION.

MADAME CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. (ROLL CALL).

>> VICE MAYOR WILL YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION BY

REVEREND BERNARD THOMPSON. >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> LET US PRAY. >> OUR FATHER, OUR GOD, OUR MAKER AND CREATOR, WE HAVE COME HERE TO THANK YOU FOR LIFE, HEALTH AND STRENGTH AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS AND MULTITUDE OF TENDER MERCIES. WE INVOKE YOUR SPIRIT HERE IN THE MEETING OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA, THAT IS PLEASING AND THAT SITE.

GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ALL OF GOD'S PEOPLE SAID, AMEN.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT, HOUSEKEEPING, CELL PHONES, IF YOU WILL PLEASE PUT THEM ON AIRPLANE MODE, VIBRATE OR TURN THEM COMPLETELY OFF THAT WILL BE APPRECIATED.

WE ARE STILL FOLLOWING CDC COVID-19 GUIDELINES, SO FOR YOU YOUR MEASURES, DO WHAT YOU CAN TO PROTECT YOUR HEALTH. SUCH AS SOCIAL DISTANCING. IF YOU ARE WEARING A MASK PLEASE KEEP IT ABOVE YOUR NOSE AT ALL TIMES. WE WILL CONDUCT OURSELVES IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER AT ALL TIMES. SO I HAVE, -- FIRST OF ALL WE

[4.1 PRESENTATION - NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY]

>> BRADLEY, THIS ONE IS FOR YOU. >> SO THIS IS POPEYE. POPEYE WAS BROUGHT TO US FROM AN OVERCROWDED SHELTER IN GEORGIA. WE FEEL AS THOUGH HIS MOM SAT ON HIM WHEN HE WAS A PEPPY --

PUPPY. >> HE HAS A WHEELCHAIR AND WE DON'T THINK HE WILL GET MUCH BIGGER THAN THIS. HE MOVES FASTER THAN THIS SO WE HAVE THIS COOL LITTLE HARNESS.

HE HAS NO PROBLEM GETTING AROUND. HE HAS NO IDEA THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH HIM. WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BRING HIM OUT AND SHOW HIM OFF.

HE LOVES TO SHOW OFF. NOW HE IS JUST HAVING A GREAT TIME IN FERNANDINA.

>> GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> HAVE A GREAT NIGHT YOU GUYS. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS. IS KAREN HERE?

>> CAN'T YOU TELL. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE HERSELF?

[4.2 PROCLAMATION - "NATIONAL NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH"]

>> MY NAME IS KAREN CURTAIN, I AM A MEMBER OF THE AMELIA ISLAND CHAPTER.

THEY HAVE GIVEN ME THE DECISION OF CHAIRMAN OF THE AMERICAN INDIE -- INDIAN COMMITTEE.

WHICH I WILL EXPOUND UPON AFTER YOU HAVE READ THE PROCLAMATION. >> ALL RIGHT, WHEREAS, AS THE FIRST TO LIVE IN THIS GREAT LAND, NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY ENRICHED EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIVES. THEY HAVE HELPED TO SHAPE THE AMERICA THAT WE KNOW TODAY.

THEIR TRADITIONS AND VALUES CONTINUE TO INSPIRE THE IDEAS OF SELF-GOVERNANCE, AND DETERMINATION THAT ARE THE FRAMEWORK OF THE UNITED STATES. WHEREAS, AS WE REFLECT ON OUR HISTORY, WE MUST ACKNOWLEDGE THE DEPLORABLE CHAPTERS OF VIOLENCE, AGAINST THE NATIVE AMERICAN

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THEIR CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS ARE RESPECTED AND CELEBRATED AS PART OF A RICH LEGACY THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. NOW THEREFORE I BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY INVESTED IN ME AS MAYOR DO HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 2021 AS NATIONAL NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.

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INDIAN COMMITTEE BECAME AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS DURING THE DEPRESSION.

SEVERAL TEACHERS ON THE RESERVATION WERE NUMBERS OF THE DAUGHTERS ( INDISCERNIBLE ).

THEY TOLD LEADERSHIP WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE IN TROUBLE, ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN. THAT IS WHEN THEY CREATED THE NATIONAL CHAIRMANSHIP OF THE AMERICAN INDIE SPIRIT WE HAVE SINCE THE DEPRESSION, THE MID- 30S, -- THERE ARE 3,000 CHAPTER SPIRIT 3,000 CHAPTERS ALL HAVE AMERICAN INDIAN -- INDIE CHAIRMAN WHO PROMOTES THE WELFARE ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN. THAT GIVES ME A NICE SEGUE INTO THE RESERVATION INDIANS THAT HAVE BEEN HIT PARTICULARLY HARD WITH COVID-19. TO THE POINT WHERE IT HAS REACHED NATIONAL ATTENTION AND CERTAINLY REACHED DAR ATTENTION. IT HAS ALSO REACHED, IF YOU HAVE STARTED TO SEE, ADVERTISEMENTS FOR CHRISTMAS, I'VE SEEN A FEW THINGS ABOUT CHRISTMAS.

THIS YEAR'S TOYS FOR TOTS IS CONCENTRATED ON THE WELFARE OF THE AMERICAN INDIE CHILDREN.

I INVITE YOU, IF YOU ARE BEGINNING TO THINK ABOUT CHRISTMAS AND YOUR CHRISTMAS CHARITY THIS YEAR, I INVITE YOU TO LOOK AT THE TOYS FOR TOTS FOR NATIVE AMERICAN CHILDREN.

THANK YOU. .

[4.3 PROCLAMATION - "RIGHT WHALE MONTH" ]

>> ALL RIGHT NEXT. PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> HOW ARE YOU DOING?

>> YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF? >> I AM MRS. SMITH AND.

1930S MORE THAN 50,000 WHALES WERE BEING SLAUGHTERED ANNUALLY FOR THEIR MEAT, OIL AND MORE.

MERCIFULLY, IN 1986 THE INTERNATIONAL WHALING COMMISSION BANNED COMMERCIAL WHALING BECAUSE OF THE EXTREME DEPLETION OF THE WORLD WILL STOCK. WHEREAS THE NORTH ATLANTIC BROADWAY STILL HAS NOT RECOVERED FROM MERE EXTINCTION TODAY, FEWER THAN 1200 WHITE WHALES EXIST AS SUCH THEY ARE A FEDERALLY PROTECTED AND ENDANGERED SPECIES UNDER THE

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THE SOUTHERN WATERS, ARE THE ONLY KNOWN HAVE BEEN DATING TERRY FOR THE SPECIES.

AN AREA WHERE THEY GIVE BIRTH AND NURSE THEIR YOUNG. WHEREAS THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH MACLEAN CLEARWATER MARINE RESEARCH INSTITUTE, IS COMMITTED TO THE CONSERVATION AND PROTECTION OF NORTH ATLANTIC WHITE WHALES.

WHEREAS THE WHITE WHALE FESTIVAL, CELEBRATES THE ANNUAL RETURN OF RIGHTS WHALE TO OUR WARM COASTAL WATERS. THIS FAMILY FUN EVENT RAISE AWARENESS OF THE THREATS TO RIGHTS WHALE AND HOW TO AID IN THEIR RECOVERY. THE LOCAL EFFORTS TO PROTECT THESE WHALES FROM EXTINCTION AS WELL AS OCEAN FEED ACTIVITIES AND EXHIBITS THAT EMPHASIZE EDUCATION AND ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE ADVENTURE SPIRIT THEREFORE I, MICHAEL LITTLE BIT, BY VIRTUE INVESTED IN ME DO PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER AS NORTH ATLANTIC RIGHTS WHALE

MONTH. >> THANK YOU EVERYONE. THIS PROCLAMATION HAS IT RIGHT.

WHEN WE PUT A GROUP TOGETHER TO INCREASE THE PLIGHT OF THE RIGHT WHALE THAT IS A STEEP PERCENTAGE. ONE OF OUR GOALS WAS TO MAKE THE RIGHT WHAELE UNDERSTOOD. EVERYOE LOVES SEA TURTLES. BUT THERE ARE SEA TURTLES LAYING EGGS ALL ACROSS THE WORLD.

THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE RIGHT WHALES JOE FROM NORTHERN SOUTH CAROLINA TO CAPE CANAVERAL.

THIS IS RIGHT AT GROUND 0. THIS WEEKEND, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, AND 10:00 A.M. UNTIL 6:00 P.M., THEY WILL OPEN THE SHOW AT 1130. WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN ACTIVITIES FOR THEIR KIDS. THEY HAVE A BIG WHALE THEY CAN RUN THROUGH AND A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES. EVERYONE'S FAVORITE MUSIC WILL BE THERE.

THE HONEY BADGER'S AND THOSE WHO PLAYED LAST YEAR. COME ON OUT DURING THE WEEKEND

AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS ON THE BEHALF OF CLEARWATER MARINA THIS IS A BLACK FOR YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND ONE ON THE ISLAND. THE 14TH -- IT WAS IN JACKSONVILLE FOR MANY YEARS SPIRIT IT WAS BIG IN 2019 WE EXPECTED TO BE BIG TO SHARE.

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>> NO CHARGE TO GET IN?

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA. ALL RIGHT NEXT WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING.

I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT KPIS. I WORKED FOR MANY YEARS AND THAT INDUSTRY.

LET ME GIVE YOU A FEW POINTERS. DEPARTMENTS SHOULD HAVE 5-7 KPIS.

THEY SHOULD HAVE CLEARED TARGETS AND DATA SOURCE WHERE THE INFORMATION COMES FROM AND THERE SHOULD BE SOME REPORTING FREQUENCY. GENERALLY THEY ARE THINGS AROUND SALES, FINANCIALS, OPERATIONS MARKETING AND CUSTOMER SPIRIT YOU COULD THINK ABOUT KPIS IN THOSE FOUR AREAS AS YOU THINK ABOUT ONE KPI FOR EACH PARTICULAR AREA.

THEN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT FINANCIALS, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT REVENUE, IF YOU ARE A CUSTOMER FACING AN ORGANIZATION YOU SHOULD THINK OF KPIS THAT WOULD HELP YOUR CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE.

AND KPIS SHOULD BE MEASURABLE AND SPECIFIC AND I DO THINK THAT, I THINK IT IS A GREAT THING FOR THE ENTERPRISE TO WORK ON. I SPOKE TO SOMEONE AND YOU COULD THINK ABOUT HOW YOU COULD MAY BE MAKE SOME OF THE ENTERPRISE REPORTING LOOK MORE LIKE A P&L STATEMENT. THAT WAY IT IS CLEAR THE REAL COSTS.

AS YOU SEE TRANSFERS COMING IN, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE REAL ACTIVITY WITHIN THAT.

I HAVE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND I WOULD BE GLAD TO PROVIDE INPUT IF IT IS APPROPRIATE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I THINK THESE ARE GREAT IDEAS AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE YOU MOVING IN THIS

DIRECTION. >> MR. BUCHANAN PROVIDED US A HANDOUT WITH HIS COMMENTS.

>> 311 FERNANDINA BEACH. GOOD EVENING. I AM BEEN BUCHANAN PRESIDENT OF 2194 ( INDISCERNIBLE ) THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY POSITIONED IN NASSAU COUNTY, I PROVIDED A DATA SHEET ON PAGE TWO. I HAVE AN EXISTING WATER AND SEWER ACCOUNT THAT DATES BACK TO THE 1950S. THIS AS YOU KNOW MAKES ME A COUNTY -- THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY REDWARE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THIS SHOULD BE CALCULATED BASED ON WHAT IS REQUIRED. IT GOES ON TO GIVE A SURCHARGE FOR COUNTY CUSTOMERS WHICH I AM. WHEN I MAKE CONTACT WITH YOUR GUY WITH MY EXISTING SERVICE HE

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'S LETTER CLAIMED THE ANNEXATION IS REQUIRED TO INCREASE CAPACITY WHEN I ASKED HIM FOR SPECIFIC ORDINANCES THAT STATE AND EXISTING CUSTOMER MUST ANNEX HE REFERRED BY QUESTION TO YOUR ATTORNEY TAMMI BACH. SHE REPLIED, ALSO ON YOUR PAGE 5-6.

THESE ARE CITY SEWER AND WATER ACCOUNTS WHICH REQUIRE EXTENSION OF UTILITIES.

NOWHERE DOES IT MENTION COUNTS ALREADY IN PLACE. ARE THERE ANY ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE VERBIAGE MAY MEAN, I INCLUDED IN YOUR BRIEF THE DICTIONARY DEFINITION OF MANY WORDS AND HIGHLIGHTED THE CODES WHERE THEY ARGUES. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT AS A COUNTY CUSTOMER, DUE TO A CHANGE OF USE ENACTED BY NASSAU COUNTY I SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE FEES BASED ON ( INDISCERNIBLE ) CALCULATIONS WITH A 25% INCREASE WHICH SPECIFICALLY STATED INTO CAPACITIES TO INCREASE CAPACITY ON MY EXISTING ACCOUNT.

AS OF THIS TIME, NO ONE ON CITY STAFF HAS BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE A STATUTE THAT STATES THE REQUIREMENT FOR EXISTING CUSTOMERS TO ANNEX IN ORDER TO INCREASE CAPACITY.

>> I AM SORRY, YOU HAVE TO STOP, YOU ARE OUT OF TIME. >> OKAY.

>> RESPECTFULLY. THANK YOU, SIR. DOES STAFF NEED TO COMMENT OR

WANT TO COMMENT? >> I AM NOT ASKING YOU THAT QUESTION.

I AM ASKING STAFF IF THEY NEED TO COMMENT OR IF THEY WANT TO. >> I WILL DEFER THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR BECAUSE HE HAS HAD THE MOST CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM AND THE

CITY ATTORNEY. MR. BEGAN YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT. >> MR. BUCHANAN, RECOUNTING THE FACTS, AND THE E-MAILS I RECEIVED, I CAN TELL YOU FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE EACH WORD ARTICULATED, I READ AGAIN JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO THE SECTION OF THE ORDINANCES. YOU CAN REVIEW THEM. WE DO NOT HAVE A NEW APPLICATION BEFORE US, NOT BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION. YOU CAN READ THE ORDINANCES AT YOUR LEISURE. HE CONTACTED ME FOR INTERPRETATION BASED ON MR. BUCHANAN'S QUESTIONS AND IF YOU WANT MORE WATER AND SWITCH CAPACITY YOU HAVE TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. I DON'T THINK MY INTERPRETATION IS OFF OF THE WALL IF YOU READ THE ORDINANCE. THAT IS THE INTENTION OF THE ORDINANCE. THE CITY IS NOT UNDER ANY LEGAL OBLIGATION TO ADD CAPACITY TO MR. BUCHANAN'S PROPERTY OR PROVIDE ANY OF THESE SERVICES WHERE THERE ARE SERVICES PROVIDED THROUGH A TYPE OF CONTRACT. THE ONLY ONES THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO OUR IN THE CITY LIMITS. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD?

>> NOT SPECIFICALLY. I AM JUST AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

MY CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. BUCHANAN WERE AS HE RECALLED.

>> ALL RIGHT MR. BEN GLASER. >> I AM BEN GLASER 601 NORTH 15TH STREET, FERNANDINA BEACH.

IM IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A REMODEL OF MY HOME. I AM ADDING 600 SQUARE FEET TO A 1300 SQUARE-FOOT HOME. IT IS A THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH HOUSE WHERE IT WILL REMAIN A THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH HOUSE I AM JUST ADDING SPACE SO I CAN RECONFIGURED THE INSIDE.

HALF OF THIS 600 SQUARE FEET WILL BE A SUNROOM. WHEN I APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT, I GOT THE BILL, AND YOU COULD HAVE KNOCKED ME OVER WITH A FEATHER. I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER STURGES

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THE MAJORITY OF THE COSTS HERE ARE IMPACT FEES. IT IS A THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH AND IT WILL REMAIN THAT WAY. I LIVE ALONE IN THIS HOUSE. I AM JUST DOING A REMODEL TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY AND THE IMPACT FEES I FEEL ARE TOTALLY, OUT OF LINE.

WHEN I WENT TO ASK ABOUT THAT I WAS TOLD IT WAS A PURE COMPUTATION OF 600 SQUARE FEET TIMES THE FORMULA AND THAT IS HOW YOU COME UP WITH A. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING REVIEWED AS TO WHY YOU JUST APPLY A FORMULA, WITHOUT REALLY LOOKING AT IMPACT AT ALL. I AM JUST BRINGING THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COMMISSION, AND HOPEFULLY SOMEONE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PROCESS. FOR NO IMPACT, TO PAY $4,000, THAT IS 20% OF WHAT MIKE CONTRACTORS WILL BE MAKING. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS TO

THE ATTENTION OF THE COMMISSION. >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT.

>> I AM HERE FOR SEVEN-POINT ONE. >> OKAY ITEM SIX THE CONSENT

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA. TAMMI BACH? >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. BETANCOURT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. (ROLL CALL).

>> MRS. TAMMI BACH, YOU ARE RECOGNIZE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[Additional Item]

THE LOCAL LEGISLATION DELEGATION , SERVES IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND SENATOR, WE THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THAT LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION PUBLIC MEETING IN DECEMBER.

IT TURNS OUT THAT MEETING, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD IT WILL BE NOVEMBER 10, WHICH IS BEFORE OUR NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING. AT THE NOVEMBER 16 MEETING WE WERE GOING TO INTRODUCE A RESOLUTION LISTING THE PRIORITIES OF PROJECTS AND CHANGES THAT WE WANTED THE CITIES LOBBYISTS TO TAKE CARE OF AND PRESENT TO THE DELEGATION. WHAT I WOULD ASK TONIGHT IS FOR THERE TO BE AN EMERGENCY ITEM ADDED TO THE AGENDA SO I CAN READ INTO CURRICULAR PRIORITIES AND MR. JACOBS CAN TAKE THAT TO THE DELEGATION ON NOVEMBER 10, SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF WHAT WE ARE DOING, THE EXACT WORDING, ON NOVEMBER 16 I WILL HAVE THE WRITTEN RESOLUTION BACK ON THE CITY AGENDA FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONFIRM THEIR VOTE.

BUT MR. JACOBS WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR

EMERGENCY APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> APPLE MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? I DON'T SEE ANY. ARE YOU GOING TO READ THE

LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES BEFORE WE VOTE OR AFTER? >> YOU HAVE TO ADD IT FIRST THEN

I WILL READ IT. >> BETANCOURT WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE ON THIS.

(ROLL CALL). >> THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. >> THERE WILL BE ANOTHER MOTION TO APPROVE THE LIST I AM ABOUT TO READ. THE FIRST MATTER OF BUSINESS IS A LOCAL BILL. AS YOU KNOW THE PORT OF FERNANDINA AND THE OCEAN AND HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY HAS A CHARTER AND IT WAS AMENDED IN 2017 WITH THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE THAT WE ARE WORKING FROM IS CHAPTER LOCK 293. I DID HAVE TO LEAVE FOR A PHONE CALL FROM ROBERT LOBBYIST SO DON'T JUMP OUT OF YOUR SEAT TOWARDS SIDE, THE FACT IS, THE ONLY CHANGE TO THE PORT CHARTER, THAT WILL GET SUPPORT FROM THE DELEGATION, THIS IS JUSTIN TALKS TODAY, IS GOING TO BE NO EXPANSION OF THE PORT OF FERNANDINA INTO THE HISTORIC

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THAT IS WHAT WE WILL WORK ON. THE WORD IS THAT IS THE ONLY CHANGE THAT CAN BE SUPPORTED.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE FOR OUR LOCAL DELEGATION SUPPORT

THAT. >> IF THEY CAN'T EXPAND THE PORT WHY DO THEY NEED EMINENT DOMAIN?

>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING -- >> IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

>> WHAT WE SHOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT IT. BUT THAT IS BEEN IT BY MINUTE

THE CONVERSATIONS WE WERE HAVING. >> OKAY.

>> THAT IS UNFORTUNATE BUT WE WILL TAKE WHAT WE CAN. ALL RIGHT.

NOW UNDER GENERAL BILLS. THESE ARE BILLS WHERE THE CITY IS ASKING FOR FUNDING FROM THE STATE. THE FIRST PRIORITY, THESE WILL NOT BE NEW TO YOU AT ALL.

SEEK $1 MILLION TO DESIGN PERMIT AND OR CONSTRUCT PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT IMPROVE SHORELINE STABILIZATION AND FLOOD PROTECTION IN RESPONSE TO CLIMATE CHANGE ALONG THE AMELIA RIVERFRONT. SECOND PRIORITY SUPPORT ONE MILLION-DOLLAR GRANT APPLICATION TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE DIVISION OF HISTORICAL PRESERVATION WITH A $250,000 REQUIRED CITY MATCH TO COMPLETE NECESSARY REPAIRS AT THE SCHOOL.

THE THIRD PRIORITY, SEEK $500,000 FOR BEACH WALKOVER'S TO SUPPORT RESILIENCY, TUNE GROWTH FOR STORM PROTECTION AND NEED INCREASED TOURISM AND RESIDENTIAL USE DEMANDS.

FINALLY, THE FOURTH PRIORITY IS TO SEEK $2 MILLION FOR DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND/OR RECONSTRUCTION OF CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDINGS, AND LEGISLATIVE MEETING SPACE.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CITY HALL, WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF OTHERS IN A PREVIOUS WORKSHOP.

THE CITY HALL IS ON THERE BECAUSE SENATOR BRADELY BEAN IS CONFIDENT THAT WHEN HE WANTED TO PUT THAT IN SO IF HE PUTS IN $2 MILLION, GOOD. WITH THE BILLS, WE NEED TO MENTION THERE WAS ANOTHER BILL THAT THEY FAILED TO SUPPORT AND THAT WAS THE BILL THAT ALLOWED US TO CHANGE AND DONATE PROPERTY. THEY WON'T SUPPORT THAT, AND

THAT IS FINE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT TO DONATE ANYWAY. >> I WILL FURTHER SAY, BECAUSE

OF THE RUSH, THIS WOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO. >> CALL THE VOTE.

>> >> THIS WILL ALL BE IN WRITING ON NOVEMBER 16.

[7.1 YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE - AMENDING RESOLUTION 2021-122]

>> OKAY ITEM SEVEN-POINT ONE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> AT THE REQUEST OF THE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THEIR MEETING LAST MONTH THEY ASKED OF RESOLUTION FORMING THE COMMITTEE , THEY SAID THE COMMITTEE WILL MEET QUARTERLY AND THEY FELT UNANIMOUSLY THAT

THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK THEY NEED TO DO SO THEY WANT TO HAVE. >> I AM TIRED BOSTON.

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ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE WERE LOOKING AT IS THE PROJECT 2045. FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT WOULD INVOLVE A LOT OF OUR ACTION AND THAT WILL BE A VERY BIG PROJECT FOR US.

THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE LARGER REASONS WE WANTED INVOLVEMENT THAT WAS SPACED OUT SO IT COULD BE FELT. I'M ALSO WORKING ON SOMETHING, TRYING TO GET SOMETHING WE WILL LOOK AT WITH MENTAL HEALTH. THAT IS A BIG ISSUE, A TOPIC WE ARE ALL DEALING WITH.

A LOT OF PROJECTS WE WERE PASSIONATE ABOUT AND REALLY WANTED TO WORK ON.

THESE WOULD BE TO SPACED OUT. MEMBER BRYANT WILL BE LEAVING THIS MAY AND IT DOESN'T GIVE US

ENOUGH TIME. I AM OPEN TO DISCUSSING THIS. >> I THINK IT IS GREAT.

I THINK YOU CAN MEET MONTHLY. I JUST WANT TO PASS ON I HOPE YOU WILL ENSURE YOU GET

DIVERSITY INPUT AND YOU STRIVE TO DO THAT. >> ONE 100%.

>> COMMISSIONER STURGES. >> JUST BEING THAT YOU BROUGHT IT UP AND YOU JUST STARTED THE COMMITTEE. HAVE YOU ALREADY WORKED ON YOUR REPLACEMENTS.

I KNOW IT SOUNDS CRAZY BUT YOU SAID YOU WILL BE LEAVING IN MAY. ONE THING YOU SHOULD ASK IS YOUR REPLACEMENTS. THE WHOLE REASON THE COMMITTEE DID NOT WORK PREVIOUSLY WAS FROM PARTICIPATION FROM THE YOUTH. I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

>> I AGREE AND I WOULD SAY, I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO OTHERS WHO DID NOT KNOW THIS WAS A THING.

I SAID YES WE ARE DOING A. I AGREE WITH THE DIVERSE POPULATION.

THAT IS WHY IM LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE

REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR POPULATION AND I AM REALLY EXCITED. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

>> I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND YOUR FIRST MEETING AND I SPEAK SO HIGHLY OF THE YOUTH THAT ARE RUNNING THIS COMMITTEE THEY ARE DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB. I FULLY STANDBY THAT THEY HAVE

DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IM NOT SEEN NONE, NONCLINICAL YOU CALLED THE VOTE? -- IM NOT SEEING NONE, CALLED THE VOTE.

[7.2 AGREEMENT APPROVAL - AT&T CORPORATION]

>> PASSES 5-0. >> >> AGREEMENT APPROVAL AT&T

CORPORATION. >> THIS IS WITH BANDWIDTH SERVICES.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IN MY MEETING, I ALSO BROUGHT UP INCREASING THE REACH OF THE WI-FI. IF YOU ARE IN THIS BUILDING AND ON THE SECOND FLOOR, YOU CANNOT GET WI-FI. I HAVE TRIED IT SEVERAL TIMES DURING MY TEN YEARS AS A COMMISSIONER. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT MADAME CLERK, PLEASE CALL VOTE. (ROLL CALL).

[7.3 WORK ORDER 21-94 - PASSERO ASSOCIATES, LLC]

>> IT PASSES 50. >> NOW WE ARE ON TWO ITEM SEVEN-POINT THREE.

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>> THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A WORK ORDER PAYMENT. IT IS BASICALLY TO CATCH UP WITH WORK THEY HAVE DONE THAT WAS PART OF THE BIDDING PROCESS AND CHANGES MADE.

IT IS REALLY NOTHING NEW PALM JUST CATCH UP WITH THE PAPERWORK.

>> DO I HAVE A MOTION. >> I APPROVE. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> MADAME CLERK WHEN YOU CALLED THE VOTE. >> (ROLL CALL).

[7.4 PURCHASE APPROVAL - TYLER TECHNOLOGIES]

>> IT PASSES 5-0. >> ITEM SEVEN-POINT OR. PURCHASE APPROVAL PARLAY

TECHNOLOGIES. >> THIS IS REPLACEMENT OF THE PAYROLL SYSTEM.

HOURS IS OUTDATED AND THIS IS A REPLACEMENT. IF WE WERE TO STAY WITH THE SAME COMPANY WE WOULD SPEND MONEY TO UPDATE IT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> MOVE TO APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> TRAN 13 I HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. CALL THE ROLE IT PASSES 5-0. >> SEVEN-POINT FIVE SOLE-SOURCE

[7.5 SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL - CROM COATINGS AND RESTORATION]

VENDOR APPROVAL. >> THIS WAS AN APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT THAT DOES PAINTING FOR WASTEWATER TANKS AND WATER TANKS. THEY ARE SPECIALLY CONTRACTED.

THERE ARE NOT TOO MANY WHO DO THAT. IT MADE SENSE TO GO TO THE GUYS

WHO DO THIS ALL OF THE TIME AND HAS DONE THIS BEFORE. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MADAME CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. (ROLL CALL).

>> THE MOTION PASSES 5-0. ITEM EIGHT. 8.1 REPEALED TAXICAB REGULATION.

[8.1 REPEAL TAXICAB REGULATION]

>> ORDINANCE 2021 -- 36 AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA, BY AMENDING CHAPTER 86, VEHICLES FOR HIRE, BY REPLACING ARTICLE THREE, TAXICABS IN THE ENTIRETY PROVIDING FOR SEVERE ABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN FOR ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

ANYONE? I DON'T SEE ANYONE SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MADAME CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. (ROLL CALL) THE MOTION PASSES 5-0. ALL RIGHT WE ARE ON NUMBER NINE, BOARD APPOINTMENTS.

[9.1 HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL]

ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO LEAD OFF YOU SIGNIFY WITH YOUR LIGHTS.

COMMISSIONER BRADELY BEAN. >> FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO COMMEND ALL FOUR APPLICANTS.

THE APPLICATIONS ARE GOOD. I SEE TWO ON THE LIST THAT REALLY STAND OUT TO ME, AND THAT WOULD BE, MAYOR PHIL CALL WHO HAS SERVED AS THE MAYOR OF OUR CITY IN THE YEARS PAST AND IF WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE HAVE A DIVERSE BOARD SHE IS FEMALE. ALL OF THAT IS EXCELLENT.

THERE'S ALSO A COMMISSIONER WHO HAS DONE TIME AND OWNS THREE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN.

THEY ARE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. THOSE ARE GOOD TO THAT SENT OUT

TO ME BUT ALL FOUR ARE EXCELLENT FOR PUTTING THEIR NAMES FORWARD. >> THANK YOU SIR.

VICE MAYOR. >> AS BRADLEY SAID, ALL FOUR OF THEM ARE CERTAINLY QUALIFIED.

I PARTICULARLY THINK THAT MR. O'DONNELL WHO LIVES IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, HE IS SOMEONE NEW WITH A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW AND QUALIFIED WITH HIS EXPERIENCE AND WOULD BE AN

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EXCELLENT CANDIDATE. >> THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE?

I DON'T SEE ANY DO WE HAVE AN NOMINATION? >> I RECOMMEND MR. O'DONNELL.

I HAVE THE NOMINATION DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND.

>> I HAVE THE MOTION AND A SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER BRADELY BEAN.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO COMPLIMENT M4 APPLYING BUT I REALLY THINK IT SHOULD BE THE MAYOR OR THE COMMISSIONER SO I WILL NOT VOTE YES ON MR. MCDONALD. I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE THE OTHER

TWO, I'M SIMPLY NOT HAPPY OTHERWISE. >> COMMISSIONER STURGES.

I AGREE WITH WHAT BRADLEY SAID. I WILL PROBABLY VOTE FOR EITHER OF THE OTHER TWO.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENT? COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I ACTUALLY THINK ALL FOUR CANDIDATES HAVE THEIR GOOD QUALITIES, MR. O'DONNELL DOES HAVE EXPERIENCE IN HISTORICAL PRESERVATION. AND SHE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. AS YOU POINTED OUT, ONE ISN'T CONSTRUCTION IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. SHE WAS AN ADVOCATE THROUGH MAIN STREET. THERE WE ARE. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT

THE MAYORS THOUGHTS ARE. >> THE MAYORS THOUGHTS ARE THAT WE HAVE FOUR CANDIDATES.

THEY ARE FOR ONE POSITION. THESE ARE STRONG CANDIDATES. ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE LEFT WITH HAVING ONE WINNER, AND THREE PEOPLE WHO WILL WALK AWAY WITHOUT BEING APPOINTED.

AS WE SIT UP HERE, AND WE CONSIDERED THESE CANDIDATES, I THINK COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU JUST ARTICULATED THE STRENGTHS OF THE THREE CANDIDATES. A FORMER MAYOR, A FORMER COMMISSIONER WHO IS HEAVILY INVESTED IN DOWNTOWN. AND, MR. MCDONALD WITH HIS ARCHITECTURAL BACKGROUND AND HE LIVES IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO, HOW DO YOU MAKE THIS DECISION. FRANKLY, I HAVE HEARD SOME CONCERN THAT APPOINTING TWO OF THEM IS POLITICAL WHERE MR. MCDONALD IS A CITIZEN WHO HAS ARCHITECTURAL EXPERTISE AND WOULD BE LESS POLITICAL. THAT IS WHAT I AM WAITING WITH IN TRYING TO MAKE THIS DECISION.

I WILL TELL YOU, WHEN YOU HAVE STRONG CANDIDATES MY POSITION IS, ONCE SOMEONE IS NOMINATED, I DO NOT VOTE AGAINST THEM. SO, IF HE IS NOMINATED I WILL VOTE FOR MR. MCDONALD.

>> THAT IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT I HAD IN MIND. AND GO AHEAD.

>> CAN I OFFER, PERHAPS PROCEDURALLY I CAN DRAW, CORRECT.

PERHAPS, WE WILL BE FACED WITH THIS IN THE COMING MONTHS BECAUSE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE APPLYING. PERHAPS, AND THIS IS JUST AN IDEA THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD.

WHAT WE COULD DO IS, EACH COMMISSIONER, ON A PIECE OF PAPER.

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SO, IF SOMEONE -- IF THE THREE OF US VOTED FOR ONE CANDIDATE, THEY WOULD SAY THAT IS NUMBER ONE. DOING IT THAT WAY SO YOU ARE RANKING THE PEOPLE AND THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING IT BUT A BETTER WAY PERHAPS.

CERTAINLY, I JUST HEARD FROM THE MAYOR, IF SOMEONE NOMINATES HIM WE WILL VOTE FOR THEM BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT PERSONALLY. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT ELECTIONS CORRECTS.

>> I JUST WONDERED WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE ON THAT QUIRKS. >> MY POSITION IS, IF WE DO

THAT, WE NEED TO DO THAT PUBLICLY. >> YOUR BALLOTS WOULD BE FOR

THEM. >> COMMISSIONER, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS DIGESTION?

THIS SUGGESTION OF RANKING CORRECTS. >> AS LONG AS IT IS PUBLIC I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA CONSIDERING WE HAVE A LOT OF QUALIFIED PEOPLE.

IT IS THE SAME AS A DISCUSSION. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I DIDN'T DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITIES OF RANK. LET ME TURN IT BACK, ARE YOU REFERRING TO A RUNOFF OR A

RANKED CHOICE WHERE WE GIVE A -- >> YOU RANK THEM 1-4. FROM THE LEAST TO THE MOST.

THE PERSON YOU DON'T WANT THAT'S ONE POINT AND THE NEXT ONE 2-3-4.

AND THEN YOU JUST AND UP THE NUMBERS AND WHOEVER HAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER, THEY WILL WIN.

IT SHOULD NOT BHI, THERE ARE FIVE OF US. >> IN THEORY THAT SEEMS OKAY BUT I THINK IT IS TOO LATE TONIGHT, WE MUST MAKE A CHOICE. I'M GOING TO SAY NO.

I HAVE TURNED MY LIGHT ONTO COME TO THE DEFENSE OF MY TWO CANDIDATES.

I DO NOT THINK APPOINTING COMMISSIONER POINTER WOULD BE POLITICAL.

HE HAS SERVED OVER CITY FOR MANY YEARS. HE HAS BEEN AN HONORABLE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY. HE HAS CREATED JOBS FOR MANY YEARS.

IT'S NOT POLITICAL TO RECOGNIZE THAT. HE RUNS THE CONTRACTING HE IS EXPERIENCE HE BRINGS A LOT TO THE TABLE. I THINK NOT VOTING FOR HIM BECAUSE IT IS POLITICAL, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I WOULD NOT BE HAPPY IF THAT HAPPENS.

AGAIN, THEY HAVE BOTH SERVED THE COMMUNITY AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE SERVED THE COMMUNITY IN THE PAST I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD PUNISH THEM FOR THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT AS WELL.

WHETHER OR NOT WE DO THIS I THINK WHEN WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CANDIDATES AT ONCE THAT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH MORE SIMPLE FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AND HAVE A DECISION.

BUT IF WE DO SAY WITH SOMEONE, I GUARANTEE I WILL BE A QUICK DRAW.

>> >> I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO GO THE RANK SYSTEM AND I DON'T THINK IT IS COMPLICATED. I THINK IT WILL MAKE THINGS A LOT EASIER TO COME TO THIS DECISION VERSUS WHAT WE NEED. I THINK IT IS A SMART IDEA AND THE EASIEST WAY TO COME TO AN

[00:55:05]

>> I WILL WITHDRAW MY SECOND AND NOW WE ARE BACK TO GROUND 0. >> SO THE MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND. NOW WE ARE BACK. SO AS MAYOR AND RUNNING THE MEETING AND COMMISSIONERS PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR FEELINGS ON THIS. MY FEELING IS IF WE WILL GO TO RANKING I WANT IT TO BE UNANIMOUS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD FORCE THE COMMISSION INTO THIS WHO DOES NOT AGREE. I THINK THE FIVE OF US SHOULD BE IN UNISON ON OUT WE WILL PROCEED. CERTAINLY I AM HEARING OTHER

OPINIONS. >> THIS BRINGS UP ANOTHER CANCEL -- ANOTHER CAN OF WORMS. AT WHAT TIME DO I FINALIZE MY RANKING. DO WE HAVE TO DO IT IN PRIVATE AND THEN PUT IT ON THE BOARD. THEN CAN I WITHDRAW IF I DON'T LIKE HOW IT WAS.

IT DOES OPEN UP DIFFERENT THINGS. AND THAT IS A DRAWBACK.

WHEN THERE ARE THREE CANDIDATES, WHAT DO WE PAY. THIS IS MORE COMPLICATED.

WHEN ARE THE RANKINGS FINALIZE AND HOW. I WOULD AGREE IF I GET TO VOTE

LAST. >> COMMISSIONER, WHEN YOU THINK? >> YOU SOUND LIKE I WORKED MAYOR WHO WANTS SPEAK LAST, NO MATTER WHAT. I THINK IF WE ALL GAVE OUR INPUT AND WE DID OUR RANKING, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO WITHDRAW OUR RANKING.

IT IS HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE CANDIDATES. IT'S HOW YOU FEEL AND HOW YOU RANK THEM, 1-4, REALLY SIMPLE, A MATHEMATICAL EQUATION. WHOEVER HAS THE HIGHEST RANKING.

IT IS PRETTY SIMPLE. IF NOT WE WILL HAVE TO KEEP DOING CIRCLES.

WHO IS GOING TO SAY OKAY, I WILL NOMINATE X. WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE PROBLEM OF GOOD CANDIDATES. I THINK THE RANKING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

I CAN WRITE MY RANKING DOWN IN THREE SECONDS AND TELL YOU. BUT ANYWAYS, I THINK WE SHOULD

DO THAT AND NOT BEADED UP. >> VICE MAYOR, LET'S JUST RANK ON A PIECE OF PAPER HANDED TO THE MAYOR AND THAT IS THE CHOICE. UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, YOU ARE NOT VOTING AGAINST SOMEONE YOU ARE JUST PICKING YOUR CHOICE AND THEY ARE

ALL QUALIFIED. >> EVERYTHING IS DONE AND YOU HAND IT IN.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS, -- >> WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE. FOR CITY MANAGER CANDIDATES.

I AM GOING TO USE THIS TERM AND EVERYONE OUT THERE LISTENING, THERE IS NO PART OF THIS THAT IS NOT PUBLIC OTHER THAN THE FEW SECONDS IT WILL TAKE COMMISSIONERS TO WRITE IT DOWN ON A PIECE OF PAPER. THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO SEE. IT SOUNDS SILLY, HOWEVER YOU

WANT TO WRITE IT DOWN BUT PLEASE PUT YOUR NAME ON THE PAPER. >> WHY DON'T WE SAY WHO NUMBER

ONE IS. WOULD NOT PUT AN END TO IT? >> CAN I BORROW AN INK PEN FROM

SOMEONE? >> THANK YOU. WE NEED THE RULES RIGHT HERE.

IS IT THE PERSON WITH THE LEAST OR THE HIGHEST. >> THE WEIGHT THAT I UNDERSTOOD IT, YOUR FIRST CHOICE WILL BE NUMBER ONE, THE CANDIDATE WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF POINTS IS THE FIRST CHOICE. THEY CAN EITHER BE MISS BEST OR MYSELF WHO ANNOUNCE AND

CALCULATES THE SCORE IS. >> I WANT TO READ MINE AND ALL OF THE PAPERS WILL GO TO THE

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CITY CLERK AT THE END. >> MINEABLE AND IS TIM THEN MICHAEL BEEN THERE FILL COUGH

AND THE NUMBER FOR. WHO IS CALCULATING CORRECTS. >> AND I THAT FOR YOU.

>> REJOICE. EACH COMMISSIONER. >> I WILL READ MINE TOO.

( INDISCERNIBLE ). >> ALREADY TURNED MY PAPER IN BUT I CAN DO IT FROM MEMORY.

>> NUMBER ONE IS COMMISSIONER POINTER, ( INDISCERNIBLE ), AND NUMBER FOUR IS MR. MCDONNELL.

>> THE MAYOR MUST HAVE READ MY SHEET BECAUSE IT IS IDENTICAL. MINE IS.

>> I THINK I CAN SAVE YOU THE MAP. >> SO THE RESULTS OF THAT.

FOUR OF US HAD COMMISSIONER POINTER IS NUMBER ONE. AND YOU HAD A MEN NUMBER TWO.

SO THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT COMMISSIONER POINTER WOULD BE OUR NOMINATION.

I NEED A MOTION FOR THAT. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT TIM AS OUR NEXT ( INDISCERNIBLE

). >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> I WANT TO ADD ONE FINAL PIECE MOVING FORWARD. THAT WORKS THIS TIME.

AND NOW I SEE HOW THAT WILL PLAY OUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IN THE FUTURE, I DO NOT WANT TO PUT PEOPLE, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE INVOLVEMENT IN THE CITY, IT IS A REAL BUMMER TO SEE A RANKING, AND YOU ARE NOT IN THE TOP HALF.

I REALLY WANT TO SAY I AM OPPOSED TO THIS GOING FORWARD. >> THE PROBLEM WITH THE OLD SYSTEM, WHO HAS THE QUICKEST DRAW AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE.

IM GOOD AT PULLING MY LIGHT AS QUICK AS YOU ARE. I DON'T WANT TO PLAY THAT GAME.

I THINK WE NEED TO PUT OUR THINKING CAPS ON ON HOW WE CAN COME UP WITH A MORE EQUITABLE SYSTEM. MAYBE THEY CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT WHO GETS THE SWITCH FIRST IS NOT A GOOD WAY. YOU GO THROUGH THE SAME THING

AND WHOEVER GETS NOMINATED, I DON'T THINK THAT IS HELPFUL. >> WE ARE TRYING TO GET GOOD CANDIDATES AND GOOD PEOPLE TO SERVE ON THE BOARDS. IT IS A POLITICAL DECISION.

I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE DISCOURAGING FOR PEOPLE TO PUT IN CANDIDATES.

I CALLED ALL OF THE PEOPLE AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO PUT IN. AND I TOLD THEM IF YOU DON'T GET ELECTED YOU SHOULD KEEP YOUR APPLICATION AND FOR THE NEXT TIME.

I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. >> SO I SUGGEST WE PLACE THIS ON OUR NEXT WORKSHOP FOR A SOLUTION , FOR WHAT THE PROCEDURE WOULD BE WHEN WE HAVE ALTERABLE CANDIDATES AND LET'S DISCUSS IT DURING OUR WORKSHOP. I WILL SAY THIS. WHEN WE HAVE MULTIPLE CANDIDATES FOR A POSITION, OR MULTIPLE CANDIDATES FOR TWO POSITIONS WE WILL NOT PLAY THE LIKE GAME.

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THAT WON'T HAPPEN AS LONG AS I AM MEIR. >> IS THAT A LEGAL TERM?

>> PLACE THAT ON THE NEXT WORKSHOP FOR DISCUSSION. >> SOMEWHERE IN MY PAPERWORK I

HAVE IT. >> WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT. CALLED THE VOTE.

[9.2 GENERAL EMPLOYEES' PENSION PLAN]

>> IT PAST 5-0. >> NEXT WE HAVE THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES PENSION PLAN WE HAVE TO APPLICANTS, MI READING THIS CORRECT? WE HAVE 241 APPOINTMENT.

>> IT SHOULD BE SUSAN. SHE WORKS FOR THE CITY. SHE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB.

SHE HAS BEEN A RESIDENT FOR OVER 30 YEARS. SHE IS WELL ACQUAINTED WITH THE FINANCES. IT SHOULD BE SUSAN. AT THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY I

WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS?

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

I DON'T SEE ANY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> IT PASSES 5-0.

[10. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]

ITEM NUMBER TEN. >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO ADD?

>> THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN DO THAT. >> I'M ON THE WATERFRONT PROJECT THEY HAVE PORT THE MOCKUP FOR THE BOARDWALK. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT STARTING TOMORROW MIDDAY. I WELCOME YOU TO LOOK AT IT. WE NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT IS THE LOOK WE WANT AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AFTER THAT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE AT THIS TIME.

>> I THINK YOU SAID FRIDAY IS THE BEST TIME TO GO DOWN THERE. >> THE BETTER EVERYONE GOES DOWN THERE THAT'S GOOD. YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GO ON YOUR OWN.

BUT I WOULD, I WOULD WELCOME ESCORTING ANYONE OUT THERE AT ANY TIME.

>> MS. TAMMI BACH. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT SPIRIT ON MY LIST IS ONE THING THAT IS AN UPDATE ON THE LAWSUIT AND WHAT IS HAPPENING FROM HERE. WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK THAT WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT. I KNOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THE OTHERS ARE READY FOR THE TRANSCRIPT IT WILL BE READY IN TWO WEEKS. WE ORDER IT AND IT COMES WHEN IT GETS HERE. UNTIL THEN WE WILL NOT DISCUSS WHAT HAPPENED.

WE DID SETTLE THE CASE, AND ON NOVEMBER 16 THERE WILL BE A RESOLUTION THAT WILL GIVE THE DETAILS OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. I DIDN'T WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THE CITY ENGINEER, UTILITIES DIRECTOR MYSELF AND THE CITY MANAGER WILL MEET WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, ALL OF THE HOMEOWNERS ARE INVITED AND WE ARE TRYING TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS BUT LOOKING AT NOVEMBER 12, NEXT FRIDAY AFTERNOON TO DO THAT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHERE WE ARE GOING FROM HERE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? WE WILL GIVE THE EXACT TIME AND

[01:10:01]

>> I HAVE TWO OTHER QUESTIONS. AS WE KNOW THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT DENIED THEIR APPEAL,

CAN YOU TELL US, COMMUNICATIONS WITH BRETZ AND THE NEXT STEP. >> WE RECEIVED TWO LETTERS FROM THE ATTORNEY, FOR THE LESSEE, THE LEASES FROM THE CITY AND THE RESTAURANT GROUP.

WE RECEIVED ONE LETTER ADDRESSED TO MYSELF AS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

FOR THE APPEAL THAT ARGUED IN THE LETTER THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HAD NOT ISSUED WRITTEN FINDINGS OF FACT BUT THEY WERE ISSUED AND ALL OF THE TIME, THEY HAVE 15 DAYS FROM OCTOBER 28, BUT DATE THE CHAIR SIGNED, THE 15 DAYS STARTED TICKING LAST THURSDAY IN ORDER TO FILE AN APPEAL TO THE COURT AFTER THAT NO APPEAL TO THE DECISION.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THERE CAN'T BE ANY OTHER TYPE OF ACTION. THAT COULD HAPPEN.

THE OTHER LETTER WAS ADDRESSED TO THE CITY MANAGER AND IT SAID AS HEAD OF THE CITY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION STANDPOINT WE HAVE MADE LEASE WITH THE CITY, BUT BEANS, THE CONCRETE BEAMS THAT SURROUND THE STRUCTURE UNDERNEATH IT, THEY ARE IN DISREPAIR, AND THERE ARE TWO BEAMS OR PORTIONS THAT ARE IN THE CENTER, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT THEY ARE ARGUING THAT THOSE ARE THE ONLY BEAMS THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING AND REPAIRING.

THEY PUT THE CITY ON NOTICE THEY WILL SEND THEIR ENGINEER UNDER THEIR AND A CONTRACTOR THAT SPECIALIZES IN TAKING THE BEAM IN ORDER TO ENFORCE THE REBAR TO LOOK AT THE STATE OF CORROSION.

THEY WILL EVALUATE THE STATE OF CORROSION AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT BOOK CONCRETE CAN BE FIXED. THEY DO THAT WITH A CLOCK, IT'S NOT REALLY CAULK BUT IT IS LIKE THAT WHERE THEY PUT IT INTO THE CROOKS. THEY HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE.

WE DON'T KNOW. I KNOW WE, BEING THE CITY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, WE ARE NOT CONFIDENT, THAT IT WILL WORK. WE EXPECT TO SEE ENOUGH CORROSION WHERE YOU CANNOT REPAIR IT. SEEK THE CITY HAS TO APPROVE THE REPAIRS SO OUR CITY ENGINEER WILL WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO SEE HOW THAT GOES AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY WOULD BE WORKING ON ITS BEAMS. IT IS A LOT MORE TO COVER, BUT RIGHT NOW I WILL UPDATE YOU AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION. IF FOR SOME REASON THEY GET TO DO THE REPAIRS, THEY WILL REPAIR THERE'S AND THEY SAID IN THEIR LETTER OF THE CITY HAS GOT TO REPAIR THE BEINGS.

WE HAVE SOME RUSS INVESTMENT ROUGH ESTIMATES IF YOU EXCEED 30% OF THE VALUE OF THE STRUCTURE IN YOUR REPAIR COSTS, YOU NOW HAVE TO BRING THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE UP TO THE CURRENT CODES, WHICH MAKES IT COMPLETELY PROHIBITED TO DO THAT. SO, TO BE CONTINUED.

IT IS DEFINITELY A PSYCHO BUT WE ARE WORKING WELL TOGETHER. IT WAS A GOOD HEARING.

I DO WANT TO SAY THIS, IF YOU DID NOT WATCH THE HEARING, PARTICULARLY WHEN THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE QUESTIONING IT, I HAVE WATCHED PANELS OF JUDGES WORK ORDER LEGAL EXPERTS, NONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS ARE LEGAL EXPERTS FOR LAWYERS BUT THEY HAVE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE. THEY WERE SO PREPARED, I WAS SO PROUD OF THEM.

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I KNOW THE ENGINEER AGREES WITH ME. THEY WERE PREPARED AND THEY SEEMED LIKE THEY DO THIS ALL THE TIME. THEY DID A GOOD JOB AND I THANK

THEM FOR IT. >> HOW ABOUT ATLANTIC SEAFOOD. >> SHE MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND I ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. SHE STILL HAS THE OPTION OF REPLACING THE EXISTING BUILDING AND SHE WILL PROBABLY HAVE HER OWN SET OF PLANS WITH THE 1200 SQUARE-FOOT FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING IN MIND AND COME BACK TO THE CITY. IT IS NOT OVER YET.

WITH REGARD TO THE PROJECT ITSELF, THAT IS ATLANTIC SEAFOOD AND THE WAY OF THE RESILIENCY PROJECT THAT CAN BE STOPPED SHORT OF ATLANTIC SEAFOOD AND WE CAN COME BACK AND FINISH IT.

>> AS I RECALL, MR. GEORGE SAID, IF YOU GOT CLOSE TO THE BUILDING IT WOULD SHAKE IT DOWN.

>> THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. IT IS PROBABLY 75 FEET AWAY, BUT WHEN THE CONTRACTS POINT. IF WE GET TO THAT., AND WE ARE NOT THERE YET.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, KEEPING FROM HAVING -- >> I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT

IT WILL COST MORE MONEY -- >> WE WOULD STOP THE PROJECT AT THAT SPOT.

THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE ADDED. IT WILL NOT BE A COST INCREASE, MAYBE SOME SLIGHT COST IN LABOR

OR DECREASE, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE SIGNIFICANT. >> THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

[11. CITY CLERK REPORTS]

>> THAT IS ALL I HAVE TOO. >> CITY CLERK. >> THE AIRPORT ADVISOR HAS SEVEN VACANCIES. AND MARINE ADVISORY BOARD HAS TWO VACANCIES AND THE PARTIES

ARE ENCOURAGED TO STOP BY OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE. >> THE PARKS AND RECREATION HAVE

ANY VACANCIES? >> AS. >> FINALLY COMMISSIONERS.

[12. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> WOULD IT BE TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY?

>> MY CALENDAR SINCE THE 16TH. >> ANYWAY, THE TOURNAMENT AS OCCURRED EVERY YEAR.

IS A FUN TIME PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER. IT WILL BE DOWN ON PARKING LOTS

SEE ND. IT'S A GOOD TIME. >> WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE CONTRACTOR, AND THEY HAVE MOVED OUT OF THE AREA, THEY ARE WORKING TO MAKE SURE TO PUT HIS STUFF IN. IT WILL START THIS WEEK AND CONTINUE THROUGH NEXT WEEK.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE? >> I THINK THAT IS IT.

>> I DO HAVE A TEAM. DO YOU KNOW WHAT ( INDISCERNIBLE ) STANDS FOR? IT IS THE BATTLE OF CRY. THEY YELL BACK GOING INTO BATTLE.

IT WAS IN THE WAGES. >> COMMISSIONER STURGES. >> I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY EXCEPT THAT IT IS NO SHAVE NOVEMBER AND I AM WORKING ON MY NEW STYLE AND WE WILL GET OUT OF HERE EARLY.

>> COMMISSIONER BRADELY BEAN. >> I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COIN A PHRASE

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>> VICE MAYOR. >> I HAVE A PROJECTION TO PUT UP.

>> THIS IS A BREAK FROM TRADITION. >> A PROJECTION.

>> I MENTIONED THIS THE LAST MEETING. THE -- THE 13TH OF NOVEMBER AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AS OF TONIGHT WE HAVE 12 PRESENTERS WHICH INCLUDE TO IMMIGRATION LAWYERS, THE ACCIDENT LAWYER, THEY WILL HAVE TWO PEOPLE THERE, THEY WILL HAVE PEOPLE THERE TO TALK ABOUT MEDICAL AND DENTAL. JACKSONVILLE WOMAN CENTER.

SAVE THE CHILDREN. WILDFIRE. CHILDCARE.

THE PURPOSE IS TO ATTEMPT TO BRING THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY TO BE PARTICIPANTS OF THE CITY.

AS I MENTIONED WE HAVE SIX POINTS HERMAN ACCORDING TO THE CENSUS AND WE KNOW THAT IS HOW YOUR. THIS IS -- IT HAS TOTALLY BEEN DONE BY VOLUNTEERS.

IT IS INTERESTING HOW MANY IN THE COMMUNITY -- IT IS ALREADY A SUCCESS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET PEOPLE THERE TO BECOME A PART OF IT. THAT IS IT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> FINALLY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHO CELEBRATED THEIR 138TH ANNIVERSARY ON OCTOBER 17. WE OF COURSE WANT TO OFFER CONGRATULATIONS TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR OUTSTANDING FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE US ON A DAILY. AND CARRYING FORWARD THE LEGACY AND DEDICATION TO PROTECT ABERRANT LIFE, PROPERTY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. THE VETERANS DAY PARADE IS NOVEMBER 11 AT 11:00 A.M. YOU ARE ALL INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PARADE.

I WILL BE DIRECTING TRAFFIC. I KNOW THE LEGION IS HAVING A BARBECUE FOLLOWING THE PARADE TO HONOR KOREAN WAR AND WORLD WAR II VETERANS THAT ARE THE GRAND MARSHALL THIS YEAR.

COMMISSIONER ROSS MENTIONED THE TOURNAMENT AND THE TEAM FROM AROUND THE WORLD THAT ENJOY COMING HERE. FINALLY, VICE MAYOR YOU ARE IN CHARGE FOR A WEEK AND I WILL BE

LEAVING TO GO TO A WEDDING AND WILL RETURN NEXT TUESDAY. >> THAT'S THE LEAST YOU CAN DO.

WITH THAT, WE HAVE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.