Oct 05, 2021 Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>>> CALL TO ORDER THIRD 2021 CITY COMMISSION MEETING. MADAME CLARK WILL YOU PLEASE

CALL THE ROLL. (ROLL CALL). >> WOULD EVERYONE RISE PLEASE.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO HONOR NASSAU DEPUTY JOSHUA M.

HE LOST HIS LIFE AND THE LINE OF DUTY ON SEPTEMBER 24, HE WAS LAID TO REST LAST SATURDAY.

LET'S JUST BOW IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE. SHE HAS -- THANK YOU.

PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE REVOCATION BY REVEREND CHRISTOPHER FOWLER. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND REPUBLICS WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> DO WE HAVE FOUL HERE? I DO NOT SEE HIM. COMMISSIONER, YOU DO THIS SO

WILL YOU DO THE INVOCATION. >> FATHER GOD WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO HERE IN OUR CITY, AND PLEASE HELP US EMULATE SOME OF THAT WORK HERE TONIGHT. PLEASE BE WITH US AND THE FAMILY

OF OUR FALLEN OFFICER. WE ALL SAY TOGETHER, AMEN. >> THANK YOU, PLEASE BE SEATED.

HOUSEKEEPING, CELL PHONES, IF YOU WOULD PUT YOURS ON AIRPLANE MODE, TURN THEM OFF OR PUT THEM ON VIBRATE, THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED. WE ARE STILL UNDER COVID-19 PROTOCOL. THE INFECTION RATE IS DROPPING WHICH IS GOOD NEWS, WE DO HAVE

[4.1 PRESENTATION - NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY]

OUR DOG OF THE MONTH FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY. >> THIS IS BUDDY HE IS OVER SECOND-LONGEST RESIDENT THERE. HE IS 3-YEARS-OLD AND HE HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR. WE THOUGHT WE WOULD TAKE HIM OUTSIDE.

HE DOES NOT LIKE CATS. ( INDISCERNIBLE ) YOU CAN COME INTO MEET THE DOG.

IF YOU HAVE A DOG BRING THEM IN FOR A MEET AND GREET. WE PREFERRED THE DOGS GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER BEFORE WE SEND ONE HOME. WE FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE UP TO DATE WITH HEART WARM MEDICATION OF ANY VACCINES OF ANIMALS YOU HAVE IN YOUR HOME. THAT IS IT.

AND NOW YOU CAN LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER, FINGERS CROSSED. >> HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

NOW WE HAVE THREE PROCLAMATIONS. >> WHEREAS MANY WOMEN ENTERED THE WORKFORCE FOR THE FIRST

[4.2 PROCLAMATION - "AMERICAN BUSINESS WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION (ABWA) EIGHT FLAGS CHARTER CHAPTER"]

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IN 1969, THE AMERICAN BUSINESSWOMEN ASSOCIATION, EIGHT FLAGS CHARTER CHAPTER WAS FOUNDED IN FERNANDINA BEACH TO SERVE ALL OF NASSAU COUNTY, FLORIDA.

SINCE ITS INCEPTION, 52 YEARS AGO, ABWA, EIGHT FLAGS CHARTER CHAPTER HAS TIRELESSLY SERVED FERNANDINA BEACH WORKING WOMEN AND BUSINESS OWNERS BY BRINGING TOGETHER BUSINESSWOMEN OF DIVERSE OCCUPATIONS AND BY PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES TO THEM, TO HELP THEMSELVES AND OTHERS GROW PROFESSIONALLY AND PERSONALLY THROUGH LEADERSHIP, EDUCATION, NETWORKS AND LOCAL AND NATIONAL RECOGNITION. WHEREAS, ABWA IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY ORGANIZATION WHICH PROVIDES CONTINUING EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES, AND CREDITS IN BUSINESS MANAGEMENT, PUBLIC SPEAKING, AND MARKETING. LOCAL CHAPTERS OF ABWA SPONSOR HARRIET EDUCATION SCHOLARSHIPS ANNUALLY THROUGH THE STEPHEN MEMORIAL FUND. NOW THEREFORE I, MAYOR, WITH THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME, DO HEREBY EXPRESS SINCERE THANKS AND GRATITUDE TO THE AMERICAN BUSINESS WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION EIGHT FLAGS CHARTER CHAPTER. CONGRATULATIONS.

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EXPANDING THE IDEA THAT WE CAN MENTZER OUR OWN CHAPTER MEMBERS, WE STARTED OUR OWN THIS YEAR.

WE ARE EXPANDING THAT RIGHT NOW ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY. WE ARE MEETING WITH THEM EARLY IN THE MORNING AND THEY CALL THEMSELVES THE WOMEN OF WE HOPE TO SPREAD THAT TO THE OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS AS WELL. THEY ARE ASKING FOR OUR HELP IN BECOMING YOUNGER BUSINESSWOMEN.

WE HOPE TO SHARE THAT WITH THEM. I HOPE YOU WILL VISIT US ONLINE. WE DO HAVE A NEW WEBSITE THAT WE JUST LAUNCHED. COME VISIT OUR CHAPTER. YOU CAN REGISTER, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE BUSINESSWOMEN AND WE HAVE MEN IN OUR ORGANIZATION AS WELL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU MA'AM.

>> NEXT. MS. DRISCOLL. >> WELCOME, NICE TO SEE YOU.

[4.4 PROCLAMATION - "NATIONAL COLONIAL HERITAGE MONTH"]

>> WHEREAS ESTABLISHED IN 1950 THE NATIONAL SOCIETY COLONIAL NAMES 17TH CENTURY IS A WOMAN'S ORGANIZATION WHOSE MEMBERS ARE LINEAL DESCENDENTS OF ANCESTORS WHO LIVED AND SERVED PRIOR TO 1701 IN ONE OF THE ORIGINAL COLONIES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

WHEREAS THE SOCIETY IS COMPRISED OF CHAPTERS LOCATED IN 46 STATES, THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA AND KENNEDY, OVER 11,000 MEMBERS SHARE A COMMON INTEREST OF AMERICAN HISTORY, LOVE AND RESPECT FOR OUR NATION AND A DESIRE TO TO WORK TOGETHER INHARMONIOUS DILUTION.

IN AN EFFORT TO PERPETUATE THE MEMORY OF THE COLONISTS AND THEIR LASTING LEGACIES WHICH SHAPE THE FOUNDATION OF OUR GREAT NATION. WHEREAS BY VIRTUE OF THEIR ANCESTRAL DISSENT FROM OUR EARLIEST FOREFATHERS, THE MEMBERS OF THE SOCIETY FEEL THE FUNDAMENTAL OBLIGATION TO HONOR THE HARDSHIPS AND HEROISM OF THOSE WHO THOUGHT SPIRITUAL AND

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THROUGH THESE AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES THE SOCIETY ACKNOWLEDGES AND HONORS THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE ENDURING LEGACY OF VIRTUE, COURAGE AND PATRIOTISM FORMED OUR PROUD NATURE. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVD THAT I MICHAEL VH DO DECLARE NATIONAL

SOCIETY OF COLONIAL DAMES XVII. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU MAYOR ON BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL SOCIETY OF COLONIAL DAMES XVII FOR THE HONOR OF RECEIVING THIS PROCLAMATION FOR THE HERITAGE MONTH. THE CHAPTER WILL CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO MARKET AND PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL SITES TO REMEMBER THE FALLEN AND HONOR VETERANS AND TO FOSTER A LOVE OF OUR COUNTRY AND COMMUNITY, TO SUPPORT CHARITABLE PROJECTS TO TEACH CHILDREN THE IMPORTANCE OF KNOWING OUR HERITAGE AND INSPIRE CHILDREN TO GET RESEARCH OF WHO THEIR ANCESTORS ARE.

>> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR FINAL PROCLAMATION IS FOR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES. I WOULD ASK ALL CITY EMPLOYEES TO PLEASE COME UP TO THE FRONT.

>> OKAY, DO WE HAVE EVERYONE. GOOD JOB. WHEREAS ACROSS THE STATE OF

[4.3 PROCLAMATION - "FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK"]

THE GOVERNMENT FACILITATES GRASSROOTS DEMOCRACY AND PROVIDES NUMEROUS SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT ENHANCE RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE. ALL OF WHICH MAKES THEIR CITY THEIR HOME. WHEREAS CITY GOVERNMENT IS ADMINISTERED FOR AND BY ITS CITIZENS, AND DEPENDENT UPON PUBLIC COMMITMENT TO UNDERSTANDING THE MANY ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. WHEREAS CITY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES SHARE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PASS ALONG THE UNDERSTANDING OF PUBLIC SERVICES AND THEIR ESSENTIAL BENEFITS. WHEREAS FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK OFFERS AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR ELECTED STAFF TO SPREAD THE WORD TO ALL CITIZENS OF FLORIDA, THAT THEY SHAPE, DEVELOP AND THROUGH EDUCATIONAL PARTNERSHIPS, CIVIL PARTNERSHIPS AND MUCH MORE.

THEREFORE I, MICHAEL EIGHT L, DECLARE OCTOBER 18-24-21, FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK.

( INDISCERNIBLE ). >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR ON BEHALF OF CITY STAFF THIS EVENING IT IS AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO WORK FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.

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TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES AS WELL. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU GUYS.

>> THERE WAS A BUSY MEETING. (SPEAKING AWAY FROM MICROPHONE). >> OKAY WE ARE RECONVENE ON ITEM

[4.5 PRESENTATION - FERNANDINA BEACH MAIN STREET PROGRAM]

>> WELCOME. >> IM LISA FINKELSTEIN, AND ALSO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR MAIN STREET. IT IS GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE. THIS IS OUR 4TH QUARTER REPORT. WE ARE GOING TO START WITH THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE SET AT THE 1ST QUARTER. WE WANTED TO COMPLETE ANY POST COVID-19 BUSINESS SURVEY WHICH WE DID IN JUNE. WE WERE LOOKING TO ASSESS THE LONG AND SHORT TERM IMPACT OF PANDEMIC HAD ON OUR BUSINESSES. THE FINANCIAL HEALTH TO THE OWNERS, THE EMPLOYEES.

THE RESPONSE RATE WAS LOW. THEY ALL RECEIVED FUNDING THROUGH THE CHARISMATIC.

ONE 100% REPORTED THAT MAINSTREET WAS HELPFUL DURING THE PERIOD.

THEY CITED INFORMATION SHARING AND SOCIAL MEDIA PROMOTION AS THE MOST BENEFICIAL SERVICES PROVIDED. EIGHT MEET AND GREET FOR ALL BUSINESSES WAS HELD IN JULY.

WE ARE CURRENTLY MEETING WITH BUSINESS OWNERS ALONG THE CORRIDOR IN ORDER TO SECURE MORE REPRESENTATION ON THE BOARD AND COUNCILS FROM THAT PART OF THE DISTRICT.

OUR NEXT MEET AND GREET EVENT WILL BE HELD DURING THE SLOWER MONTHS IN NOVEMBER.

WE WILL COMBINE BOTH BUSINESSES FOR THAT. OUR PROMOTION COUNCIL HELD A SOLD-OUT COMEDY NIGHT IN AUGUST. WE HAD A PARADE AS THEY SENT THEIR BOAT ACROSS THE ATLANTIC FOR THEIR ROLE. WE ALSO HELD OUR INAUGURAL ISLAND FESTIVAL ON SEPTEMBER 18.

BASED ON FEEDBACK, ATTENDEES, FOOD TRUCKS AND VENDORS, IT WAS A BIG SUCCESS.

THE COMMITTEE IS ALREADY WORKING ON NEXT YEARS EVENT AND TO ADD MORE ON FRIDAY AND SUNDAY TO MAKE IT A WEEKEND ATTRACTION FOR PEOPLE. THIS EVENT HAD PROCEEDS OF $42,000 WHICH WILL BE USED TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT THAT MISSION.

THE HOME TOURS THAT WERE SCHEDULED HAVE BEEN PUSHED BACK TO NEXT MAY DUE TO COVID-19

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THIS IS FOR THE 11 MONTHS. THIS IS COMPARE TO THE BUDGET. THE QUARTERLY CONCERT CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY THE FOURTH PAYMENT WAS RECEIVED IN SEPTEMBER.

EVENTS AND FUNDRAISING, THE BOOKS SALES WHICH TOTALED OVER 22,000 FOR THE 11 MONTHS AND EVENTS LIKE SIP AND SHOP, COMEDY NIGHT AND ONE THAT REPRESENTED A LITTLE OVER 31,000 OF THE TOTAL ON THAT LINE. THE MEMBER PARTNER DONATIONS INCLUDED BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT AMELIA ISLAND WHO RECOGNIZED DOWNTOWN AS THE VENTURE OF OUR CITY.

ALSO, FROM THE BUSINESSES WITHIN THE MAINSTREET BOUNDARIES. WE ARE WORKING ON A PROGRAM AND THEY HAVE REFRESHED THE MARKETING MATERIALS FOR THE PROGRAM AND WILL BE GETTING OUT INTO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT MAINSTREET.

WE DO ANTICIPATE THE REVENUE WILL BE A MORE SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR.

THE GRANT THIS YEAR WAS FROM THE TDC FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE PROGRAM.

IT WAS BASICALLY PASSING THROUGH YOU WILL SEE IT ON THE EXPENSE LINE.

WE ORDERED EVERYTHING THAT WENT WITH THE REGULATORY SCIENCE. WE DID APPLY FOR A $5,000 COMMUNITY GRANT FOR INTERPRETIVE SCIENCE WHICH WOULD BE PART OF THE PROJECT.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE IT FOR THAT CYCLE SO WE WILL REAPPLY. OUR REVENUE IS AT 99% OF WHAT WE BUDGETED AND WE EXPECT WE WILL KNOW WHEN WE EXCEED THE BUDGET. OUR EXPENSES, THE SALARY LINE INCLUDES THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OVERLAP WHEN I WAS ON BOARDING AND ( INDISCERNIBLE ) WAS HERE.

IT ALSO INCLUDES THE PAID INTERN WE HAVE ON STAFF THAT HELPS WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND EVENTS DOWNTOWN. THE EXPENSES ARE REALLY ON TARGET.

IT INCLUDES ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE DESIGN FEES AND THIS YEAR THEY WERE THE REGULATORY SCIENCE. AND THE EVENT FUNDRAISING ARE UP AND THAT IS SOLELY DUE TO THE OTHER TOPICS. WE HAD PLANNED AND BUDGETED FOR AN EVENT NOT KNOWING WHAT IT WOULD BE. WE BUDGETED A $10,000 NET REVENUE. BUT NO EXPENSES. JUST AS A NET NUMBER.

WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT IT WOULD BE. IN JANUARY WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED, THEN AS WE FOLLOWED

IT THROUGH NOW YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL REVENUE AND EXPENSES. >> THE SURPLUS OF JUST OVER 7,000 WILL BE REDUCED AS THE REMAINDER OF SEPTEMBER. WE WILL SEE IT AT THE END OF THE 12 MONTHS. JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS. A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO OUR MC WHO WAS AWESOME. AND THE COMMITTEE WHO CAME UP WITH THE IDEA.

IT WAS A NEW CONCEPT FOR THE ISLAND AND THEY CARRIED IT THROUGH WITH WEEKLY MEETINGS.

WE HAD 22 SPONSORS AND OF THE NEARLY THOUSAND TICKETS THAT WE SOLD, 285 WERE VIP TICKETS.

THE PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA BREWERS GUILD WAS ON THE ISLAND. HE IS GOING TO WORK WITH US NEXT YEAR TO BRING MORE OF HIS CRAFT BREWERS TO THE FESTIVAL. WE ARE LOOKING AT GREAT THINGS

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I WILL GO OVER THE RESULTS IN A MINUTE. WE ALSO ESTABLISH THREE KEY GOALS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. WE APPROVED A BUDGET FOR THE COMING YEAR TO SUPPORT THOSE GOALS. WE DETERMINED SOME OF THE MILESTONES TO SHOW PROGRESS ON THE GOALS, AND WE HAD A SESSION WITH THE BOARD AND COUNCIL MEMBERS RECENTLY, 26 PEOPLE WERE THERE TO DEVELOP TACTICS FOR EACH OF THE COUNCILS TO WORK ON IN THE COMING YEAR.

THE NEXT STEP IS TO ADD THAT INTO THE OPERATING PLAN AND CREATE A LIVING DOCUMENT THAT EACH COUNCIL CAN USE AS THE YEAR GOES ON TO GUIDE THEIR PROGRESS. THIS WILL THEN BECOME THE WORK PLAN WE PRESENT AS PART OF OUR ACCREDITATION IN JANUARY. THE SURVEY THAT WE DID WENT OUT TO MAINSTREET DISTRICT BUSINESSES. IT ONLY HAD THREE QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST WAS, WHICH EVENTS OR SERVICES WERE OF VALUE TO YOUR BUSINESS.

WE GAVE THEM NINE TO CHOOSE FROM. YOU CAN SEE THE WEEKLY E-MAIL UPDATES THAT ARE SENT OUT BY MAINSTREET TO THE BUSINESSES, LETTING THEM KNOW ABOUT WEBINARS, FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES OR EVENTS DOWNTOWN, STREET CLOSURES, WHATEVER IS GOING ON, WE SIN ANY -- A WEEKLY E-MAIL. OTHER THINGS THEY'VE MENTIONED WHERE SOCIAL MEDIA POSE, SHARING RESOURCES DURING COVID-19 AND SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT WE DO DOWNTOWN FOR THEM.

THE SECOND QUESTION, THE TOP THREE CHALLENGES. THE TOP ONE BY FAR WAS STOPPING.

PARKING, AND THE MAINTENANCE AND CLEANLINESS OF THE CITY. SOMEWHERE LACK OF SHOPPERS IN THE SLOW SEASON. THE TRASH. AND THE IMPACT OF THE COVID-19 SHUT DOWN. THE FINAL QUESTION WAS WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE WITHIN THE CITY. YOU CAN SEE THE TOP THREE. AGAIN, THERE WERE A FEW OTHERS THAT WERE MENTIONED. FIXING POTHOLES AND SOLVING TRASH ISSUES, ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS AND DEDICATING POLICE TO PATROL DOWNTOWN. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE SAFETY ALONG EIGHTH STREET. THAT CAME UP IN WHAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED AND THE TOP CHALLENGES FOR THE BUSINESS. THAT IS DEFINITELY AN AREA OF CONCERN TO LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS. WE USE THESE TO DEVELOP OUR GOALS.

OUR MISSION IS TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC VITALITY IN THE DISTRICT.

THE CORE VALUES PROVIDE SUPPORT AND BE SUSTAINABLE AND PRESERVING AND PROMOTING FOR THE BENEFIT OF FUTURE GENERATIONS. THE RESPONSIBLE AND BE STEWARDS. LEAVE THINGS BETTER THAN WE FOUND THEM. WITH THIS IN MIND THE THREE GOALS WE DEVELOPED WERE TO DIVERSIFY OUR REVENUE STREAMS, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE EQUAL AND THAT SIGNATURE FUNDRAISING AND PARTNERS. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO FOCUS ON PRESERVING THE HISTORY AND MAINTAINING HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, THAT IS WHAT WE THINK IS A KEY TO THE VITALITY THAT WE CURRENTLY ENJOY. THOSE ARE THE THREE GOALS. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU NEED A LOT OF PEOPLE. THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS GIVES GUIDANCE THE WORK IS REALLY DONE IN THE COUNCILS. THIS IS A LIST OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS CURRENTLY.

MANY NAMES I AM SURE THAT YOU RECOGNIZE. THEN WE HAVE FOUR COUNCILS WHICH

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I WERE BUDGET FOR THE COMING YEAR, WE -- COMPARED TO LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

THE CITY CONTRIBUTION IS ON THE TOP LINE. THE EVENTS AND FUNDRAISING LINE INCLUDES WHAT WE ARE BUDGETING FOR DIFFERENTLY. THE MEMBER PARTNER DONATIONS, WE NOTE THAT AT THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT BUT WE DO HAVE A GOAL OF INCREASING THE MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE. WE DID NOT REACH THAT GOAL LAST YEAR.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE 27 MEMBER PARTNERS AND THE GOAL IS 50. WERE EXPENSES, THE SALARY NINE -- LINE REFLECTS TAXES AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS ARE PAID AS EMPLOYEES.

IT ALSO INCLUDES A PAID INTERN TO ASSIST WITH SOME OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND MARKETING.

GENERAL ADMINISTRATION REFLECTS AN INCREASE IN RENT AND WEBSITE MAINTENANCE AND ADDITIONAL INSURANCE TO COVER VOLUNTEERS. THE PROJECT EXPENSES LESS BECAUSE THE REGULATORY SIDE PROJECT IS OUT OF IT. MAKE SURE IT INCLUDES A PORTION OF THE INTERPRETIVE SIGNS, AGAIN ASSUMING WE GET GRANT FUNDING AND ALSO, SOME PLANT MATERIALS, AS WE ARE LAUNCHING PROGRAMS WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION. WE DO SHOW A SURPLUS AT THIS POINT.

THAT IS PART OF THE LONG RANGE. LOOKING TO ESTABLISH SOME TYPE OF A FUND THAT CAN BE USED FOR BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS. WE STILL HAVE YET TO DEFINE THE PARAMETERS OF THAT FUND.

WE ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE SIGNAGE OR PRESERVATION OR START UP COSTS.

BUT WE FEEL, MOST PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND BUSINESSES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR GRANT FUNDING. WE WANT TO GIVE THEM INCENTIVE TO DO THINGS IN THE CORRECT WAY RATHER THAN THE CHEAPEST WAY. WE WANT A POOL OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO HELP PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE RESTORING PROPERTIES WHICH WE KNOW IS MORE EXPENSIVE, UNDERTAKING THAN REGULAR

PROPERTY. >> WHAT WE HAVE ON TAP FOR NEXT YEAR, WE ARE WORKING ON FINALIZING OUR ADOPT A FLOWER BED PROGRAM. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO IDENTIFY BEDS THAT HAVE IRRIGATION THAT IS NOT WORKING. WE ARE MAPPING THE BEDS WITH ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. CREATING LISTS AND SCHEDULING WORK WITH THE CITY.

WE ARE ALSO, WORKING ON OUR DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDE. WE HAVE BEEN EVALUATING THREE DIFFERENT MATERIALS FOR THE SIDEWALKS. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE HISTORIC AUTHENTICITY, THE SAFETY AND OTHER ISSUES AND HOPEFULLY MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY AS TO WHICH MATERIAL WOULD SUIT BEST DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE SEVERAL HOLIDAY EVENTS THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE. WE ARE CONTINUING OUR UPDATE ON THE LARGE TABLE MAPS.

LIKE I SAID, WE JUST NEED PROOF WITH PRINTING AND WE ARE EVALUATING TRAFFIC OPPORTUNITIES AND TALKING WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE EIGHTH STREET AREA OF THE CORE DOOR. WE BELIEVE THAT CAN BE MADE TO BE WALKABLE AND SAFE AND MORE PLEASANT TO WALK IN. WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE TO

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THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS ON THE LIST. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WELL DONE. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY ITEM 5.

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]

THIS IS ON TWO TOPICS. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF.

>> CAN YOU SAY YOUR NAME? >> THE FIRST ONE, IF YOU TAKE HALF OF A MILLION, BASED ON THE ALLOCATIONS SET FORTH IN THE GUIDELINES, THANK YOU TAKE HALF OF A MILLION DOLLARS, THAT HALF OF A MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, AFFECTS THE REST OF THE RESIDENCE IN THE CITY.

EITHER THERE IS A SHORTFALL ON SERVICES, SERVICE LEVELS DROP FOR YOU HAVE TO INCREASE TAXES TO MAKE IT APPEAR A CRA DOES AFFECT THE REST OF THE CITY. I JUST -- THERE IS NO WAY AROUND THE NUMBERS. IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY INCREASE TAXES BUT YOU HAVE TO TO MAKE UP THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. WHATEVER IT IS. ON SURVEYS, YOU WILL ALL AGREE, BECAUSE OF MY VOLUNTEER WORK ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND MY COMMENTS EVERY 28 DAYS ACCORDING TO FACEBOOK, I HAVE A FEEL OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING IN THE COMMUNITY.

THERE ARE SURVEYS. THEY HAVE BECOME APATHETIC BECAUSE HERE ARE THE MAIN COMMENTS THAT I GET. JUST BASED ON YEARS OF LISTENING AND READING THE COMMENTS.

IT FEELS LIKE KITTY HAWK IS NOT LISTENING BECAUSE THEY KEEP PUTTING OUT THE SAME QUESTIONS, REPHRASED, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LOOKING BUT THE SAME COMMENTS. WHY WOULD THEY DO ANOTHER SURVEY

SINCE THEY HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED IT SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE. >> ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THEY SAID, THEY FEEL LIKE THERE WAS A BIAS BUILT INTO SOME OF THE SURVEY QUESTIONS, I AM TELLING YOU WHAT I AM READING. I HAVE DONE SURVEYS MYSELF SO I UNDERSTAND IT.

I AM JUST GIVING YOU FEEDBACK THAT I FEEL IS IMPORTANT. ONE THING YOU MAY CONSIDER DOING IS ASKING PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT ON A SURVEY. HAVE THEM BUILD THE SURVEY.

PEOPLE RESPONDED DIFFERENT WAY DO IT SO THERE ARE PICTURES ON IT SO PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU SAID WE HAVE A BIG CONCEPT OF WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE.

STAGING AREA. NO ONE KNOWS, THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO COMMIT TO ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE BEING COMMITTED TO.

THEY WANT TO KNOW IF THEIR ANSWER IS SPECIFIC AND THAT IS THE FEEDBACK I HAVE HAD.

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE CONSENT AGENDA, ARE THERE

ANY ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> A 6.3.

>> WE WILL PULL SIX-POINT THREE. ANY OTHER SPIRIT I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MADAME CLERK WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. (ROLL CALL).

[6.3 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT - 226 BONNIEVIEW ROAD WEST]

>> A PACIFIED PIPE -- 5-0. OKAY WE WILL PULL SIX-POINT THREE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION

AGREEMENT. 226 BONNIEVIEW ROAD WEST. >> I BELIEVE I NEED A MOTION

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BEFORE DISCUSSION. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION NOT TO APPROVE.

>> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN MAKE MOTIONS IN THE NEGATIVE. I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION NOT TO APPROVE? >> AS FAR AS I KNOW, YOU CAN.

WE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE. I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE TOOLS IN FRONT OF ME.

>> ONE OF THE CONCERTS ABOUT MAKING A MOTION IN THE NEGATIVE, IF IT FAILS, DOES THAT MEAN IT IS ACTUALLY ADOPTED? SO THE PREFERRED, EVEN IF YOU ARE OPPOSED TO IT MAKE A MOTION IN THE POSITIVE AND THEN VOTE NO. THAT MEANS IF IT GETS DENIED, IF

IT IS APPROVED, AND -- IF YOU VOTE TO DENY IT CLARIFIES THAT. >> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE

COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> I WILL ACCEPT. >> SO COMMISSIONER, I SECOND

YOUR MOTION. >> I DID NOT MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> BUT YOU FOLLOWED UP. >> I WILL REAR REITERATE MY MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> I SECOND. >> NOW WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

NOW WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION AND COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOUR LIGHT IS ON SO YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> I WILL NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE TWICE. BACK ON MAY 2020, THE CITY COMMISSION, CAN YOU TURN THE LIGHT, PLEASE? THIS IS THE PARCEL IN QUESTION.

BACK IN MAY OF 2020 THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED A RESOLUTION WHICH WAS 202070 AGREED TO ALLOW THE ANNEXATION WITH SEWER AND WATER SERVICES WITH TWO PARCELS. IT WAS THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE, AND THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE. IN FACT, I WAS ONE OF MADE THE MOTION AND WE HAD A SECOND TO APPROVE. IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. AT THAT TIME, I BELIEVED THAT WHAT I WAS APPROVING OR THE CITY OF PROVING, WAS TO ALLOW SEWER AND WATER FOR ONE UNIT ON THIS PARCEL AND ONE UNIT ON THIS PARCEL. SO, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IS WHAT WE WERE DOING AND SHAME ON ME BECAUSE I DID NOT LOOK INTO IT ENOUGH.

WHAT HAPPENED SUBSEQUENTLY, LOOK AT THE ONE THAT SHOWS, LET ME TALK ABOUT WHERE THE PARCELS ARE. THIS PARCEL IS THE PARCEL IN QUESTION.

THESE OTHER TWO PARCELS WERE APPROVED PREVIOUSLY. THE BLUE IS THE FLOODPLAIN.

THE YELLOW IS THE FLOODPLAIN AS YOU CAN SEE NONE OF THIS IS IN THE CITY, THE BOUNDARIES ARE FAR A WAY. THAT IS THAT. THE NEXT ONE IS THE, THAT IS

SHOWING WHERE THE PARCEL IS,. >> IF I COULD INTERRUPT THIS IS THE MODIFIED SHOWING THE

EXISTING SEWER LIKE THAT WAS UPDATED BY MR. GEORGE. >> BUT THE TWO WERE LINE IS FAR AWAY SO IT WOULD TAKE MONEY TO SPEND ON AND THE DEVELOPERS ARE WILLING TO SPEND THE MONEY.

THIS IS THE MAP. YOU CAN SEE, THE GROUND IS THE HIGHEST ON THIS PARCEL, 6 FEET, VERIFY FEED. ALL OF THIS WILL FLOOD WHEN A STORM COMES.

THE NEXT ONE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS. WHAT I THOUGHT FROM APPROVING THOSE TWO PARCELS, WHAT WE WOULD HAVE, TO SINGLE RESIDENTS ON 10 ACRES.

WHEN IT TURNS OUT WE HAVE, I THINK IT WAS, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY CAME IN, ASKED FOR THE APPROAL, WITH THE CITY OF PROVING, AND INSTEAD OF PUTTING TWO HOUSES ON THEIR, THEY SOLD IT TO AN LLC WHICH IS ALSO THE AGENT REPRESENTING THE CURRENT PARCEL, AND THEY SOLD SIMMONS NINE LLC DAYS LATER AND SOLD IT TO BRIDGE MARKLAND COMPANY FOR ALMOST $2 MILLION.

WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS PUT 29 UNITS ON HERE. TWENTY-NINE DWELLING UNITS.

IF YOU GO THROUGH THE PLAN, A LOT OF THE TREES WILL DISAPPEAR ON THOSE PARCELS.

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THE CITY IS NOT COMPELLED TO PROVIDE WATER, IF SEWER AND WATER ARE PROVIDED THIS WILL BE DEVELOPED UNDER THE COUNTY RULES AND YOU CAN HAVE THREE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

THAT IS BASICALLY ANOTHER 13 UNITS ON TOP OF THE 39 THAT ARE ALREADY HERE.

I WILL ( INDISCERNIBLE ) ON ENVIRONMENTAL. >> A QUESTION FOR MR. ROSS?

>> THE 29 HOMES ARE THEY ON THIS PARCEL? >> BOTH.

>> THIS IS A SEPARATE PARCEL THAT WAS SOLD. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. IT CURRENTLY IS APPROVED FOR 29 HOMES WITH THE WATER AND SEWAGE THAT YOU APPROVE. SO, IF WE DO NOT APPROVE THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT, IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY AT ALL.

NO ONE WILL TAKE ANY TREES DOWN. THEY WILL NOT BUILD, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO THE PROPERTY.

THE REALITY IS,. >> THIS IS THE REALITY BECAUSE I DO CONSTRUCTION.

NOT MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS BUT ENOUGH THAT I KNOW THE CONCEPT AND IDEA WITH A.

THE REALITY IS, THEY WILL BUILD 6-8 HOMES ON THE LOT, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO.

THAT IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN. YOU CANNOT ANNEX THIS PROPERTY. YOU CANNOT COLLECT THE EXTRA TAX THAT WE WOULD COLLECT. YOU CANNOT DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS BUT YOU HAVE SUPPLIED WATER AND SEWAGE TO THE AREA FOR 29 HOMES. LAST WEEK YOU BROUGHT UP SEPTIC TANKS AND EVERYBODY SENT AN E-MAIL OH BY THE WAY, THERE'S ALSO FIRE PROTECTION.

THE FIRE CHIEF WILL SAY THESE WILL ANNEX TO OVER CITY ONE DAY. WHETHER IT IS TODAY WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO JOIN OUR ISLAND. WE JUST HAD A SHRIMP FESTIVAL LAST WEEKEND AND WE INVITED ALL OF THESE PEOPLE SUCCUMB TO THE ISLAND BUT WE DON'T WANT ANYONE I WANT EVERYONE TO DO THIS PROCEDURE AND IT WILL PROBABLY BE REALLY FAST. IF EVERYONE HOLDS THEIR HAND UP.

EVERYONE THAT'S HOLDING THEIR HAND OUT, DO YOU LIVE IN A HOUSE ON A MAIN ISLAND.

THERE IS NO ONE IN THIS ROOM THAT LIVES IN A TREE HOUSE. I COULD SAY HOW MANY YEARS HAS THIS BEEN GOING ON THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED THESE PROPERTIES. I DO AGREE WITH YOU, I WOULD NOT WANT ANY OF THESE TREES TO BE REMOVED. THEY PAID THE MONEY AND THEY WILL DEVELOP THIS. MY OPINION, WE SHOULD AT LEAST, FOR A SLIGHT AMOUNT OF DIFFERENCE COLLECT THE ANNEXATION IN THE WATER AND SEWER AND FOLLOW ON IN PROCEDURE. THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE MUCH DIFFERENCE.

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THE REALITY IS THEY WILL PUT A COMMERCIAL BUILDING OUT THERE THE REALITY IS, IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE. IT WAS GOING TO BE THE DIFFERENCE OF 2-3 HOUSES.

THEY SPENT MONEY ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY WILL DEVELOP IT. I GET PHONE CALLS ALL OF THE TIME PEOPLE SAINT DO NOT TAKE THE TREE DOWN. THIS IS CRAZY.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS. THE NEXT ONE IS WHY CAN'T I TAKE MY TREE DOWN I PAID FOR MY PROPERTY. THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THE COIN. I HAVE SPOKEN LONG ENOUGH ABOUT

THIS, THANK YOU. >> THE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) WHETHER THEY PUT A STATION ACROSS THE STREET AND THIS IS A MISTAKE IS RELEVANT. THIS IS VOLUNTARILY WHICH MEANS, IT COULD BE SOONER. A LOT SAY THEY WILL DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY ANYWAYS CAN YOU PUT THIS I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT SEPTIC TANKS. IF WE DO NOT APPROVE THIS, AND WHEN I CAME IN, BEFORE I KNEW, BEFORE I FORGOT. I WAS NOT REALLY THRILLED WITH IT. NOT APPROVING THIS IS CREATING AN ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER.

THE EPA WILL TELL YOU THAT A SEPTIC TANK IS A VIABLE SEWAGE SYSTEM.

THE PROBLEM IS, THAT IS NOT WHAT REALLY HAPPENS IN THE END. WE WORK TO CONTINUALLY ELIMINATE SEPTIC AND TO FORCE THESE GUYS. THIS IS YOU COULD PUT TEN UNITS PER ACRE.

YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT 40 UNITS, AND I WANT TO POINT OUT, THERE HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS WHEN YOU LOOK OVER THE CENTER, THEY HAVE HAD SEWAGE PROBLEMS FOR MANY YEARS BUT I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO DO THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE ARE LINES GOING OUT. ANOTHER THING I DEALT WITH, I WAS GOING TO DO TODAY, THE COUNTY AS A PROGRAM THAT IS CALLED CLAM.

UP UNTIL THE 31ST OF DECEMBER. >> COMMISSIONER? >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

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I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SEWER, IS BEING PAID FOR. IF THEY ARE NOT PAYING CITY

TAXES DO THEY PAY A PREMIUM ON THE SEWER OR DO YOU KNOW? >> THE CITY CHARGES A SURCHARGE ON WATER AND SERVICES PROVIDED TO PROPERTIES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THE COST OF CREATING THE NEW SEWER WILL THAT BE COVERED BY

US? >> THE DEVELOPER ARE RESPONSIBLE >> REALLY THUMPER -- PAYBACK THERE'S NOTHING TO BE BACK, BECAUSE A, IT WOULD BE THE DEVELOPER PAYING THE COSTS AND UNTIL SUCH A TIME THEY ARE PAYING CITY TAXES THEY WOULD PAY A PREMIUM ON SEWER.

SEWER AND WATER. NUMBER TWO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A PATH TO EVENTUAL ANNEXATION. LOOKING AT THE MAP, SOME CONFLICT WITH PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW, BUT I D SEVERAL PATHS AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT, ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK THIS WAS A GOOD DEAL THE OTHER PROPERTIES , IF WE DON'T HAVE A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, IT WOULD PROHIBIT US FROM ANNEXING, AS FOR -- I WANT TO GIVE TOO MANY REASONS BECAUSE I THINK COMMISSIONER STURGIS HAVE HIT ON THE HEAD, THE REASON WE NEED TO DO THIS IT WILL MAKE THE FUTURE ANNEXATION, JUST I WANT TO THROW IT OUT THERE. THIS WILL MAKE IT EASIER TO ONE DAY ANNEX THAT. THEY WILL BE USING THE ROADS SO LET'S MAKE THEM PAY TAXES.

>> GOING THROUGH THE CATASTROPHE , THEY HAVE TO PUT THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS ABOVE THE FLOODPLAIN. THAT WILL MAKE THIS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP.

WHEN I LOOKED AT THE EARLIER RESULTS, THE THING PEOPLE SAY OVER AND OVER AGAIN, DO YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN OPEN SPACE HERE AND WE CONTINUE TO AID AND ABET THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. IT MAY BE JUST A STATEMENT, BUT AT SOME POINT, I THINK YOU HAVE TO SAY, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I PERSONALLY FEEL, DECEIVED AND SHAME ON ME.

SHAME ON ME. FOR THE LAST TIME BECAUSE IT WAS NOT MADE OBVIOUS THIS WOULD HAPPEN. THEY MADE A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY ON IT AND GOOD FOR THEM.

BUT THE PRICE OF THIS PARCEL, AND THE PRICE OF IT NOT HAVING IT IS EFFECTIVELY DIFFERENT AND I HAVE DEVELOPED LARGE PARCELS IN THE PAST. IT IS WHAT IT IS.

I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. THERE IS A REASON TO IT BUT WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE.

>> MY CONCERN IS ENVIRONMENTAL. I DO WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. I DON'T WANT THIS TO SOUND NEGATIVE. YOU SHOULD NOT BE QUOTING THIS SURVEY --

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>> YOU'RE RIGHT. >> I JUST LISTEN TO MY -- YOU'RE RIGHT I'M RIGHT AND I WILL GET YELLED AT WHEN I GET HOME TONIGHT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

>> YOU HAD TWO LINES. >> I HAVE TO LINES? >> YOU HAVE TO LIGHTS.

>> CITY MANAGER, CAN I HAVE THE DIRECTOR ( INDISCERNIBLE ) WHAT I WANT TO SHOW MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THESE PARCELS, ISOLATED, I WANT TO PUT THIS IN CONTEXT OF THE BIGGER AREA. I'M ASSUMING THE CITY MANAGER DOESN'T.

I'M CURIOUS IF WE HAVE NEEDS. WE ARE DONE WITH THIS. MAYBE NOT.

I SPENT MOST OF THE DAY LOOKING AT THIS HERE I NEED THE BOUNDARIES IN THE ZONING.

IT WILL SHOOT -- IT WILL SHOW THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. >> THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

>> I WANT TO GET THE SURROUNDING AREA. WHAT YOU WILL SEE COMMISSIONERS OFFICE MAP, WE ARE CREATING AN ISLAND, AND ISLAND OF PROPERNESS.

THIS IS NOT NEAR ANY CITY PROPERTY. IF YOU ARE -- YOU ARE CREATING AN ISLAND. THE SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE, NOT ONLY ARE YOU CREATING AN ISLAND, BUT ALL OF THE PROPERTY YOU SEE ALL OF THE PURPLISH AND PINK THAT IS ALL RESIDENTIAL.

SO IF YOU TAKE THIS YOU HAVE THIS ISLAND, GUESS WHAT WILL HAPPEN OVER TIME.

THOSE PINK AND PURPLE COLORS, THAT WILL ALL SPREAD TO ANNEXATION IN THE CITY.

THIS WILL INCREASE THE FLOOD RATE. YOU WILL CREATE AN ISLAND THESE ARTICLES TO ANYTHING ON THIS CITY. MY ARGUMENT IS, I AGREE, THE FLOODPLAIN, THE MORE PROPERTIES YOU BRING INTO THE CITY, THE FLOOD RATING AND INSURANCE WILL GO UP. EVERYONE'S FLOOD INSURANCE WILL COST MORE.

WE KEEP DOING THIS STUFF. WE ARE ALL GOING TO PAY. THOSE ARE THE POINTS I WANT TO MAKE. THIS IS WHERE I WAS SPEAKING. COMMISSIONER?

>> I LOVE ALPHABETICAL ORDER. THANK YOU. I WILL, THE POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PARCELS ALREADY HAVE A HOUSE ON THEM.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, I WOULD SAY IT IS ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO EXTEND THE BOUNDARIES. WANTED SHE WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T PAY CITY TAXES WILL UTILIZE THE CITY SERVICES. I KNOW FOR A FACT, A LARGE NUMBER OF THE PARCELS HAVE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT SPIRIT IN FACT, THE PHRASE

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IF WE LOSE THIS PARCEL, THE FUTURE I BELIEVE AND THIS I THINK IS A VALID GOAL.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> >> HAVE A DIFFERENT SPIN ON IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THIS ROAD SO I'M TALKING OFF OF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BECAUSE I DID NOT RESEARCH IT. TO BE ANNEXED AND PEOPLE HAVE TO AGREE TO IT.

ALL OF THE PARCELS HAVE TO FOLLOW AND IF ONE OF THEM BLOCKS IT.

THEN THE REST CAN'T BE ANNEX. PEOPLE WANT TO PAY. THEY WANT TO GET THE CITY SERVICES I DON'T THINK IN THE NEXT 100 YEARS, THEY WILL DO IT THEY SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME LOOKING INTO IT AND MOST OF THE PROPERTIES, WILL NOT BE ANNEX BECAUSE THEY HAVE SEWER AND WATER AND A LOT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN OUT. THEY GET THE SERVICE WITHOUT THE EXTRA COST. IT IS A GREAT DEAL. I DON'T THINK THAT IS A VALID ARGUMENT. I WENT DOWN THERE OVER THE WEEKEND.

IT IS STILL OLD FLORIDA. IT IS WHAT IS LEFT OF OLD FLORIDA.

IT IS BEAUTIFUL DOWN THERE. IT IS QUIET. WE ARE PUTTING IN A LARGE SUBDIVISION AND THESE ARE SINGLE PARCELS WITH ONE SINGLE HOUSE ON THEM.

I DON'T KNOW THE SUBDIVISION RULES OF THE COUNTY, ONCE WE PUT A SEWER LINE DOWN HERE CAN THINGS START MAKING MORE AND MORE HOUSES. I DON'T DISCOVER THIS BY DUMB LUCK. I DID NOT PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

BUT I DID PULL IT IT IS THE SAME DEVELOPER WHO DID THE OTHER PARCELS.

THE SAME AGENT. WHATEVER IT WAS. ONE THING LED TO ANOTHER.

AS OF THIS MORNING I WAS CONVINCED, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST PARCEL.

I DID NOT KNOW UNTIL 10:00 A.M., WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED THIS. THAT IS KIND OF HOW IT HAPPENED.

IT IS WHAT IT IS. LIKE I SAID, IT IS A DOUBLE EDGED SWARD.

>> IF WE PUT A SEWER LINE. THIS IS GOING THERE. THE ONLY THING GOING THERE IS TWO OR THREE HOME SPIRIT THEY WILL PUT THEY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY.

THAT IS A FACT. WHENEVER WE GET ANNEXATION, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER, THEY ALREADY HAVE A RIGHT TO PUT SEWER LINE THERE AND A LIVE STATION THEY WILL DO IT ALL OF THE PHRASES WE CAN COMING UP, THE REALITY IS IT WILL HAPPEN. THERE WILL BE A DIFFERENCE OF 2-3 HOME SPIRIT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO. DO YOU WANT TO PUT SEWER AND

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND OUT. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S WISE.

THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PUT MULTI- DEVELOPMENT AT THE END OF THE ROAD.

IT WILL BE 8-10 HOME SPIRIT THEY WILL SELL THEM FOR SIX OR $700,000 APIECE, AND THAT IS IT.

GO AHEAD. >> I HAVE TO LIGHTS. >> THERE'S ANOTHER LIGHT OVER THERE. NOW YOU HAVE THREE. THIS IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE HOMEOWNER SHE OWNS A HOUSE. DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN SOLD?

THIS IS -- WHEN IT HAPPENS IT WILL HAPPEN. >> THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF VOLUNTEER ANNEXATION SPIRIT THERE IS ALSO FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS. YOU WILL SEE MORE AS THE SYSTEM FAILS. WHETHER IT BECOMES CONTINUOUS OR NOT, I AM NOT ABOUT TO RECUSE OR CREATE A SITUATION WHERE WE PUT SUBJECTS IN.

FOR YEARS WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THEM OUT. WE ARE STILL TRYING TO GET THEM OUT. IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE, THERE MAY BE RULES OR WHATEVER, IT IS

RIGHT NEXT TO THE WETLANDS. THAT ROAD GOES TO THE WETLANDS. >> ANY OTHER COMMENT? I SEE NONE, ADAM CLARK WE CAN CALL THE VOTE. (ROLL CALL).

[7.1 AWARD OF RFP 21-08 - BUREAU VERITAS TECHNICAL ASSESSMENTS LLC]

>> IT PASSES 3-2. ITEM SEVEN. RESOLUTION SEVEN-POINT ONE.

AWARD OF RFP 21 -- ZERO EIGHT. >> LET ME CATCH UP MR. MAYOR. >> SURE, TAKE YOUR TIME.

>> MR. MAYOR, I HAVE A PULSE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE AWARD OF PROPOSAL TO DO A BUILDING ANALYSIS FOR WHAT IS CLASSIFIED AS TIER ONE. THE PROPOSAL APPROXIMATELY

$49,000. >> FOR THE PUBLIC, PLEASE GESTATE WHAT THE FIVE BUILDINGS

ARE. >> THEY ARE ATLANTIC RECREATION CENTER.

THE RECREATION CENTER THE PACK GYMNASIUM AND THE CENTER. $46,000.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE OF MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?

VICE MAYOR? >> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE TALKED ABOUT A BUILDING ASSESSMENT AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR GOALS. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY LOOK AT, MY CONCERNS ARE WHAT WE WILL DO AFTER. THEY ARE CHARGED WITH $2,511 PER BUILDING. WE HAVE ACTUALLY, I DID AN INTERVIEW STUDY IN THE CITY ALONG WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, AND IT INCLUDED KILOWATT HOURS AND MORE AND NOTHING HAPPENED.

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WHEN WE SEE SIGNIFICANT COST ISSUES COMING OUT OF THIS. NONE OF THIS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. WE ARE COMMITTING TO FIX WHAT IS WRONG.

ESPECIALLY IF IT FALLS INTO THE SAFETY ISSUES. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS PICK.

>> JUST LIKE WE TOOK THE REPORT AND COMMITTED TO THAT. JUST LIKE WE TOOK THE REPORT OF

THE CITY HALL AND COMMITTED TO THAT. >> THE REPORT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO, THERE WERE MINIMUM LIFE SAFETY ISSUES THEY RECOMMENDED THINGS WE WERE NOT REQUIRED TO DO RELATIVE TO RENOVATION, THERE IS AN IMPLICATION THEY WERE LOOKING FOR SAFETY ISSUES AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE. I AM JUST SAYING, WHEN WE DETERMINE AT THE END IT'S INSUFFICIENT BASED ON THE STANDARDS THAT THEY USED, WHETHER THEY CALL IT THE PARTICLES OR CO2, WE HAVE TO FIX THAT.

THAT IS ALL I'M SAYING. THE AIR QUALITY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I AGREE WITH YOU ONE 100%. I'M JUST SAYING, WE HAD NOT DONE

THAT IN THE PAST. >> JUST FOR VERIFICATION. WE AGREED THAT THE CITY WOULD PRIORITIZE, WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO THIS BUILDING, WHAT WAS NUMBER ONE, WHAT WAS NUMBER TWO, WHAT WAS NUMBER THREE. THEN WE WOULD TACKLE HOW TO PAY FOR IT.

WE ARE NOT DOING NOTHING WITH THE REPORT. IN FACT, WE DRILLED DOWN ON IT AND ASKED FOR PRIORITIZATION ON THAT REPORT. LET ME BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

I DID NOT MISTAKE ANY OF THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS? CAN WE CALL THE VOTE?

>> (ROLL CALL). >> A PASSES 5-0. APPROVAL FOR CONSULTING.

[7.2 AGREEMENT APPROVAL - PROS CONSULTING, INC]

>> THANK YOU. YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, A PROPOSAL TO BUILD UPON THE COST ANALYSIS OF RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR FACILITIES AND THE FIELD TO DETERMINE WHEN AN ACTUAL COST IS TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHICH ADVISED

MOVING FORWARD WITH THE STUDY IN THE AMOUNT OF $17,000. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION, CAN I PLEASE GET AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THIS STUDY IS ABOUT AND WHAT WE WOULD HOPE TO LEARN FROM THE STUDY.

>> THANK YOU. THE QUESTION CAME UP DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS ABOUT WHAT IS THE COST OF PROVIDING FOR WATER AEROBICS, YOUTH SOCCER AND TAKING INTO ACCOUNT NOT JUST THAT BUT THE COST OF INSURANCE AND BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP AND UTILITIES.

AND WHAT THEY PLEDGE TO DO, THEY WILL ANALYZE THE COST AND GIVE US A BREAKDOWN AS TO THE COST OF EACH PROGRAM SO WE CAN USE THAT DATA TO SET APPROPRIATE RATES FOR EACH FIELD.

>> MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO THAT IS, MAY BE THEY WILL SEE HOW MUCH THEY FACILITATE.

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FACILITIES. >> WILL THEY DO WEAR AND TEAR OF THE FACILITY?

SANCHEZ. >> CANNOT JUST SAY SOMETHING, THIS IS IN THE PACKET.

IT GOES INTO BACK TO PAGES VERY SPECIFIC DETAIL. IT WAS AVAILABLE FOR ALL OF US TO READ. IT IS INCREDIBLY DETAILED AND A GOOD REPORT.

I GUESS, I AM A LITTLE ANNOYED BECAUSE THEY PUT ALL OF THIS STUFF IN THE PACKET, IT IS THERE FOR US TO READ AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE LEARNED FROM READING

THE PACKAGE. >> IS A PRIVILEGE TO ASK QUESTIONS.

PLEASE CONTINUE. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND I'M ALSO ASKING FOR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT AS WELL. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENT? I SEE NOT. MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. (ROLL CALL). >> SEVEN-POINT THREE, BUDGET

[7.3 BUDGET AMENDMENTS - VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS]

AMENDMENTS, VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. >> MR. MAYOR,. >> I WILL CALL A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. I ANTICIPATE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC.

>> WE ARE BACK IN SESSION, PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS. IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

[7.4 LEASE AGREEMENT - ATLANTIC SEAFOOD]

>> ITEM SEVEN-POINT FOR, ATLANTIC SEAFOOD. >> YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A PROPOSED LEASE AGREEMENT. THIS WAS THE RESULT OF CITY EFFORTS AND DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION. STAFF HAS WORKED WITH ( INDISCERNIBLE ) TO PRESENT TO YOU A PROPOSED LEASE AGREEMENT. THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT WAS BASED UPON 6500 SQUARE FEET.

THE DIRECTION WAS IT WAS NOT TO EXCEED 9,000 SQUARE FEET AT A RATE OF $7.50 PER SQUARE FOOT

PER YEAR. >> THANK YOU. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION?

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND?

>> I MOVE TO TABLE. >> TRAVEL MOTION TO MOVE AND A TABLE, DO I HAVE A SECOND TO

THAT? >> THE FIRST THING IT MEANS IS NO DISCUSSION.

>> I MOVE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. >> COMMISSIONERS, JUST REMEMBER IF THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE, THERE IS A SECOND, YOU ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO VOTE IN FAVOR BUT IT DOES ALLOW FOR DISCUSSION. I THINK SOME OF THE HESITANCY TO MAKE ANOTHER IS WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAID EARLIER ABOUT PROCEDURE WHICH I SENT TO YOU IN AN E-MAIL. HE -- A MOTION TO APPROVE DOES NOT OBLIGATE ANYONE TO PASS THE

MOTION BUT IT DOES ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT. >> BECAUSE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT I WILL MOVE TO SECOND PERIOD I HAVE A. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

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SO YOU HAVE IT? >> IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT SHE IS THE OTHER PARTY, OR SHOULD I

TIME IT. >> I SAY WAVE IT. >> I HAVE ONE WAVE, I HAVE TWO

WAVES, THREE WAYS. >> WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO WAIVE. SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> ANNE T. COONROD. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A SHARED GOAL.

I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE VALUABLE FEEDBACK.

DESPITE THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY BEING THAT WE COULD BUILD UP TO 9,000 SQUARE FEET, THEY HAVE SUGGESTED THAT IF AT ALL POSSIBLE THE REDUCTION IN SQUARE FEET, WOULD ALLOW FOR OPTIMIZING NATURAL SPACE SURROUNDING THE BUILDING. INDIFFERENCE TO THE DESIRE TO SHOWCASE THE SPACE FOR THE PUBLIC I SUBMITTED A PLAN 30% SMALLER OR 6,000 SQUARE FEET.

WE ARE ALSO TAKING GUIDANCE TO ADOPT THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH AN INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE FACILITY THAT WAS ONCE COMPATIBLE. WE SPOKE WITH THE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) AND THE ARCHITECT LOOKED AT PICTURES OF WAREHOUSES AND GOT GUIDANCE FROM THEM. THIRD, WE INCORPORATED THE EVERY TEN YEARS TO ENSURE THE CITY WILL RECEIVE A FAIR MARKET VALUE. THE MARINA IS PAID FOR WITH PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS. AS A RESIDENT OF 48 YEARS I HAVE SEEN PROGRESS CURRENTLY, IT IS SET UP TO PRIMARILY SERVE VOTERS, AND TOURISTS. ATLANTIC SEAFOOD SERVES AS A GATHERING PLACE FOR FISHERMEN, VOTERS AND RESIDENTS WANTING SEAFOOD FROM THE WATERS.

THEY OFFER GROCERIES FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS. IT'S AT A FAMILY FRIENDLY RESIDENT WHILE INCREASING THE ENJOYMENT OF THIS UNDERUTILIZED CORNER OF THE MARINA.

WE WILL MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT BLENDS WITH THE MARINA. OUR HOPE IS IT WILL ENCOURAGE MORE RESIDENTS TO USE A SPECIAL CORNER OF OUR ISLAND. HAVING SAVED THE BEST PUBLIC SPACES WHICH YOU CAN GOOGLE, THERE ARE SEVERAL KEY ELEMENTS THAT CHARACTERIZE PUBLIC SPACE.

THE FIRST IS ACTIVITIES. WE WANT PEOPLE FROM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE VISITING TO THINK OF AND VISIT DOWNTOWN FERNANDINA. THIS MULTIUSE STRUCTURE, NEEDS TO BE FAMILY INTERACTING I'M OPEN TO MAKING EVERYTHING VIABLE THAT INCORPORATES YOUR INPUT.

TODAY I JUST GOT OFF OF THE PHONE WITH ONE OF YOU SAID THAT 5,000 SQUARE FEET WAS ALL THAT HE WOULD ALLOW. IF THAT WAS THE NUMBER AGREED ON WE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD OUR ARCHITECT DESIGNED THE BUILDING. I FEEL THAT THE PAD IS MORE IDEAL.

BUT WE WILL GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. TOGETHER WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THIS ALLOWS FOR VIABLE BUSINESSES THAT WORK WITH OTHERS.

IT SERVES THE RESIDENTS OF OUR ISLAND AND VISITORS. I WELCOME YOUR INPUT AND GUIDANCE AND WILL GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND COME BACK WITH A SMALLER FOOTPRINT.

I ASK EACH OF YOU TO WORK WITH ME AND HONOR THE LEASE I HAVE WITH THE CITY AND CONSIDER THE

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FRONT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NO. >> YOU ARE AVAILABLE IF WE DO. >> THE NEXT SPEAKER.

>> MICHAEL MOORE'S. FIRST OFF, GOING BACK TO MY 120,000 COMMENTS FOR SEVERAL YEARS. EVERYONE LOVES ATLANTIC SEAFOOD. 89% OF THE PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTIVE. THEY JUST DON'T WANT BUILDINGS BLOCKING THEIR VIEWS OR TAKEN AWAY FROM PARKING. PARKING -- IS NOT TAKEN AWAY FROM THE BUSINESSES THAT ALREADY IF THIS IS SOMETHING I PRESENTED TO THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONS ABOUT FISH LOVERS AND OUTDOOR SEATING WITH WHO. SOMETIMES PHOTOS OF SAN PEDRO HARBOR.

THEY PUT $250 MILLION BACK INTO IT. IS A GREAT CONCEPT.

MR. MAYOR, THE PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DESCENDENTS, THAT WOULD BE AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR ATLANTIC CITY FOOD. THEY CAN USE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY FOR THAT CONCEPT.

THE CHANNEL WOULD BE MOVED OUT WHEN IT HAPPENS LENTIC SEAFOOD WILL BE IN THE CENTER OF THE NEW MARINA. IT WILL BE OUT OF THE MUD AND IN THE CENTER OF THE NEW ARRANGEMENT. I THINK LOOKING AT LONG-TERM, IT IS A BENEFIT FOR ATLANTIC SEAFOOD AND THE CITY IF THE PROPERTY IS USED FOR ATLANTIC SEAFOOD.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> MARION PHILLIPS. >> GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSIONER. I LIVE AT 724 SOUTH SIXTH STREET.

I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT HE SUGGESTED. I EXPECT -- RESPECT ANNE T.

COONROD I MIGHT EX-PRESIDENT WORKED THERE FOR MANY YEARS SLAVED DOING FISH AND IT SMELLED REALLY BAD. WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS, I DO NOT AGREE WITH A LARGE STRUCTURE.

MANY OF YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN HERE MANY TIMES I WANT TO PRESERVE OUR HISTORY AND OUR SMALL TOWN ATMOSPHERE. I WANTED TO BE THE SAME. BUT LIKE HE SAID, I WANT IT TO BE THE CENTERPIECE BECAUSE EVERYONE LOVES ATLANTIC SEAFOOD. AND ON A SMALLER SCALE SO WE HAVE THE PARKING AND WE CAN ENJOY THE CONCEPT SPIRIT THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

I WAS LISTENING IN THE BEGINNING TO EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID.

THIS IS NOT HILTON HEAD. IM TIRED OF PEOPLE COMING HERE AND WANTING TO CHANGE THIS ISLAND. WE HAVE GOT TO SLACK OFF ON THE GROWTH.

TAKING DOWN THE TREES AND STUFF, I ASKED. PEOPLE JUST OPEN THE DOOR, COME ON IN. THE STRENGTH WHEN THE MOTHER OF STORMS COME THIS ISLAND WILL NOT BE HERE ANYMORE. I WANT TO ENJOY THE TIME I HAVE (I WANT MY SON AND GRANDCHILDREN. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH, I WANT YOU TO KNOW, IM NOT

IN FAVOR OF THIS. >> >> THANK YOU.

I JUST HAVE A FEW HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. IF WE ARE GOING TO PUT A 9,000

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IF WERE LOOKING FOR A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, LET'S LOOK FOR ONE.

IT IS CLEAR THAT MRS. ANNE T. COONROD HAS WORKED HARD TO MEET THE CHANGES YOU HAVE GIVEN HER, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE, THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS.

THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE TRANSPARENCY AND MORE CLEAR AND MORE PUBLIC RFP TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. IN REGARD TO THE SPECIFIC LEASE, AND THE MAYOR SAID YOU'RE OBLIGATED TO RENEGOTIATE WITH HER AS A LEASEHOLDER. BUT YOU'RE ONLY OBLIGATED TO 1200 SQUARE-FOOT. NOWHERE IN THE LEASE AS YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE UP TO DIE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. THAT SHOULD BE A CONSIDERATION. ALSO LOOKING AT POLICE, I THINK ABOUT SEVEN YEAR INTERVALS, FOR EVALUATION OF THE PROPERTY IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE IS TOO LONG. PROBABLY BECAUSE IT IS ON THE WATERFRONT THAT PROBABLY HAS A THREE YEAR MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE THAT IS MORE REALISTIC WITH THE AMOUNT OF WEAR AND TEAR IN THE BUILDING. THAT IT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT IS ALL OF THE PUBLIC

COMMENT THAT WE HAVE VICE MAYOR. >> YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN OPPOSED TO THIS SINCE DAY ONE.

EXTENDING TO WHAT STARTED AT 9,000 SQUARE FEET AND NOW IT IS -- IN MY MIND IT IS APPROPRIATE PROPERLY BECAUSE OF THE PLAN ISSUE. THERE'S EVEN BEEN A THIRD-PARTY BROADBAND, AND THE LAWYERS ARE DISCUSSING OTHER THINGS. THIS TYPE OF DISCUSSION, CONVEYS A TOTALLY NEGATIVE OPINION OF THE CITY OPERATING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

THIS SHOULD GO OUT TO AND RFP. THE DECISION IS WE WANT TO HAVE WHATEVER FACILITY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF THE PLAN, WE SHOULD OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC, BUT TO TALK TO PEOPLE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH GOOD GOVERNMENT. IN SIX YEARS THIS IS THE WORST I HAVE SEEN BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

>> IF THEY WERE APPROVED TO DO IT, THE PUBLIC WAS NOT ALLOWED TO COME IN AND MAKE THEIR PROPOSALS. I THINK WE ALL HAVE E-MAILS ADDRESSING THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE.

>> COMMISSIONER CRACKS. >> I LISTENED TO LYNN FROM THE PRIOR MEETINGS AND THE MEETINGS BEFORE THAT. I CAME TO THAT OPINION MYSELF WEEKS AGO.

I THINK MRS. ANNE T. COONROD IS A GREAT BUSINESSWOMAN AND I THINK SHE WILL DO GREAT NO MATTER WHAT SHE DID WITH THE CITY BECAUSE SHE HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD.

BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH LEN, I THINK, IF THIS IS DETERMINED THAT WE WANT ANOTHER RESTAURANT AT THE WATERFRONT, THEN THE ANSWER WOULD BE IT NEEDS TO GO TO RFP AND EVERYONE LOOK AT THAT PARTIULAR TIME. THE CONSENSUS I CAME TO WEEKS AGO, AND UNFORTUNATELY NOT EVERYONE WAS THERE BUT I THINK, WITH THAT MINDSET OF THINKING, I THINK A SEAFOOD RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN WOULD BE GREAT HOWEVER, IF THAT IS WHAT THE CITIZENS REALLY WANT, I CANNOT GO WITH 2-300 PEOPLE RESPONSE. I CANNOT SEE THAT, IT ALL WRAPPED INTO THE WATERFRONT.

I CANNOT VOTE TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I DO HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS, IF YOU COULD COME BACK TO THE

PODIUM. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT.

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>> 48 YEARS. >> IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TONIGHT, YOU COULD REBUILD A 1200 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING AND MAINTAIN THE BUILDING WITH THAT BE FEASIBLE.

>> I DON'T THINK IT WILL SUPPORT A BRAND-NEW BUILDING. >> IT IS JUST TOO EXPENSIVE, AND

THE MARGINS ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT. >> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IT TAKES TO RUN THE SEAFOOD COMBINATION.

THE RESTAURANT PORTION WOULD BE 4800 SQUARE FEET. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GO SMALLER THAN THAT. I HAVE FIGURES ON WHAT HE WAS SAYING ABOUT THE BATHROOM AT THE KITCHEN AND THE ADA BATHROOMS, I CAN GET THAT TO YOU ALL. HE DID PUT IT INTO SQUARE

FOOTAGE. >> I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> PEOPLE, WHAT I WANT TO BRING FORWARD, OF BUSINESS HAS BEEN HERE FOR 48 YEARS.

WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS MOMENT, IT WAS NOT THAT SHE WENT UNDER, SHE HAD SIX MORE YEARS UNDER HER LEASE SHE COULD RUN THE STORE AND EVERYTHING IS GOING GREAT. WHAT HAPPENED, WHY ARE WE HAVING THE DISCUSSION, WE AS A COMMISSION APPROVED THE BOARDWALK TO RUN THROUGH HER BUILDING WHICH HAS BEEN THERE WITH HER OWNERSHIP 48 YEARS. THAT IS A LONG TIME.

WE ARE DISRUPTING HER BUSINESS RIGHT NOW BY DOING THIS. IT IS NOT THAT, WE ARE GIVING ANY SWEETHEART DEAL. WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE CURRENT BUSINESS OWNER AND MAKING SURE THERE IS A FEASIBLE OPTION FOR HER TO CONTINUE. FOLKS, I AM ALL ABOUT AND RFP, BUT I WOULD WAIT, AS WE ARE CREATING THE WEIGHTINGS, I WOULD REALLY WAIT, ARGUE AN EXISTING EXISTING BUSINESS OWNER IN THE CURRENT LOCATION. THAT WOULD, NO MATTER WHAT CAME FORWARD WOULD MAKE IT ONE OF THE BEST OPTIONS. ATLANTIC SEAFOODS HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR SUCH A LONG TIME. HISTORY IS SO IMPORTANT TO ME. I SEE A DANGER AHEAD OF US.

ONE I WISH TO AVOID. IF WE PUT OUT AN RFP, AND IT IS BASED OFF OF WHO WILL OFFER BOTH MOST MONEY FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT WILL BE HOOTERS OR DOCKSIDE OR PICK YOUR CHAIN RESTAURANT, IT WILL BE RIGHT THERE. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO SEE AN EXISTING BUSINESS OWNER SUCCEED AND DO WELL. I WANT TO SEE THAT WE DO WHAT IS NEEDED TO GET A GREAT DEAL FOR THE CITY. I BELIEVE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD IS THE RIGHT DEAL. THAT IS ONE WAY I WISH TO GO FORWARD.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN THEIR FOOTPRINT. SHE SHOWED ME THE SLIPPERY.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL FIT WITH OUR CONCEPT. IT IS SOMETHING THAT I WILL BE VOTING CAPS ON FOR THOSE REASONS AND MORE. I BELIEVE AND ATLANTIC SEAFOOD

SO, THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER STURGIS? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I MEAN, MAY BE THE OPTION AFTER HE GOES TO RFP. YOU MOVE IT TO THE OTHER SIDE.

I THINK WE NEED AND I UNDERSTAND THE DISRUPTION, CITY MANAGER, I AM SORRY, THIS IS WHY I TURNED MY LIGHT ON THE PART OF TO OTHER THINGS AFTER THAT. WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T APPROVE THE LEASE THIS EVENING, AND THE CURRENT SIX YEAR LEASE, WITHOUT PUTTING IN THE SEAWALL, WHAT

HAPPENS IF WE DO NOT APPROVE IT. >> SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO REBUILD A 1200 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING AT HER COST AND SHE COULD ASK FOR MORE LAND, SPACE WHICH WAS HER PREROGATIVE WHICH IS WHY WE ARE

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BUILDING WILL BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 180 DAYS. >> I GUESS THIS QUESTION WOULD BE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. IF WE DENIED THIS LEASE, I WILL CONTINUE WITH THIS QUESTION.

IF WE DENY THE LEASE, AND SHE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD, WILL WE FORCE HER TO RIP HER BUSINESS OUT, HOW WILL THAT INTERFERE WITH THE LAST SIX YEARS OF HER LEASE.

>> EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAID. THE LEASE SAYS THE CITY WILL BUILD A BOARDWALK, AND THE 180 DAYS, THE BUILDING AS TO COME DOWN TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE BOARDWALK AND SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO REBUILD IT AND ASKED FOR MORE.

I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD BUT I AM NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

>> MY QUESTION IS, SHE WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD 1200 SQUARE FEET?

>> SHE WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD. TO MAKE THINGS COMPLICATED SHE HAS ALREADY SAID, THE BUSINESS DOES NOT SUPPORT BUILDING A NEW BUILDING.

RUNNING THE SEAFOOD MARKET AND THE BAKE SHOP DOES NOT SUPPORT FINANCIALLY BUILDING A NEW BUILDING WHETHER SHE HAS THE RIGHT OR NOT. THAT IS WHY SHE IS ASKING FOR MORE LAND TO BUILD SOMETHING BIGGER. SEEK ANOTHER CONSIDERATION, AND THIS IS JUST ME SURMISING, WITH SIX YEARS LEFT ON THE LEASE, EVEN IF SHE WERE TO TAKE THE CHANCE TO BUILD 1200 SQUARE FEET , JUST PERCEIVE MARKET AND DEBATE AND TACKLE IS IT WORTH IT UNLESS YOU GET AN EXTENSION TO THE SIX YEARS. FINANCIALLY, IT PROBABLY IS NOT WOULD BE MY GUESS. THEN IT IS, WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT.? THE CITY MANAGER AND I, BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE CHARGED US WITH WORKING THIS OUT AND NEGOTIATING, THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. BUT ONE THING I WANTED TO TELL YOU AND I HAVE NOT THOUGHT THROUGH THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS, IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE DOWN THE BUILDING SHE HAS THE ABILITY TO BUILD 1200 SQUARE FEET BACK, WHERE WOULD THAT BE? THE COMMISSION HAS NOT REALLY SPOKEN ABOUT THAT. WILL THAT BE WHERE THE 6,000 OR 9,000 IS PROPOSED?

WE WILL NEED A LOT MORE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION. >> I THINK THAT WAS MY QUESTION AND WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO. WE DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS. APPROVING A LEASE WITHOUT THE ANSWERS, EVEN THOUGH WE CAP PUT MRS. ANNE T. COONROD THROUGH PACES OF CREATING A SKETCH OF WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE, THE ANSWER IS, WE HAVE NOT SAID WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS.

THE ONLY THING WE SAID IS ( INDISCERNIBLE ). UNFORTUNATELY, IT AFFECTS OUR.

UNFORTUNATELY. OR WE WOULD NOT EVEN BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO COME TO A CONSENSUS ON WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.

WE HAVE EAT THIS UP FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND MADE HER JUMP THROUGH A LOT OF HOOPS.

I THINK IT IS ALL ABOUT A CONSENSUS. I DO NOT THINK WE HAVE IT YET.

(SPEAKING AWAY FROM MICROPHONE). >> THIS IS A DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COMMISSIONERS.

>> BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID, WE NEED THOSE ANSWERS. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. AS FAR AS RFP, THAT IS WRITTEN AND WE CAN PUT ALL KINDS OF CRITERIA. THE RFP CAN DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

I JUST, IT JUST BOTHERS ME WE STARTED THIS AND IT IS CRAZY. ALL OF THIS SHOULD HAVE WENT TO

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO POSE A QUESTION TO THE COMMISSION. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT A NO VOTE TONIGHT WILL KILL ATLANTIC SEAFOOD. I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION, IF WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THE BUILDING, IS THERE A LEVEL THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE THE EXISTING BUILDING DOES NOT SUPPORT THE BUILDING. WE COULD PROPOSE A LEVEL.

NOT IN MY MIND. >> PART OF THIS, PART OF THIS, IS THE CITY HAS TAKING BENEFITS OF DESTROYING THE BUILDING. WE ARE DOING THIS FOR BUSINESS. WHAT DO WE DO NOW? THE EASIEST SOLUTION, AND THIS MAY SOUND OUTRAGEOUS, DON'T BUILD A BOARDWALK ALONG THE BUILDING. TAKE SIX YEARS INTO THE BOARDWALK.

BUILDING COMES DOWN. WE MADE AN OBLIGATION. WE FINISHED THE BOARDWALK AND SEAWALL. I DON'T KNOW WHO THE BUILDING IS, CITY MANAGER.

>> WITHOUT THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. THIS IS ONE OPTION.

>> CHARLIE GEORGE, CITY ENGINEER. IT IS NOT THE ISSUE WITH THE WIDTH OF THE BUILDING IT IS THE PROXIMITY OF THE WALL THAT GETS YOU TO THE BUILDING.

IF THAT SHE WALL WAS DONE BY A HAMMER AS IT GETS CLOSER THE BUILDING IT WILL SHAKE THE BUILDING APART. IF WERE GOING TO BACK OUT, WE HAVE TO BACK OUT A SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE BUILDING. THAT IS TO ME, FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT IS AN

OPTION BUT YOU ARE SHORTENING THE WALL TO HOLD OFF SIX YEARS. >> STOP THE PROJECT SO IT

DOESN'T IMPACT YOUR BUILDING. >> I SEE YOUR HAND BUT I'M NOT DONE SPEAKING.

>> SO THE CITY -- YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

>> I WAS TOLD THE DRAINAGE COMING DOWN THIS IS ABOUT FINAL ISSUE BUT NOT THE FIRST PHASE.

>> THANK YOU. WE NOTE 12,000 SQUARE FEET WOULD NOT BE PROFITABLE.

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THAT IS WHERE THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE CREATED FOR OURSELVES. THIS IS ALL ON US.

WE ARE DESTROYING THE BUILDING. AND WE DID NOT HAVE A PLAN WHEN WE HAD THE WATERFRONT FOR SPACE ON WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BUILDING AND NOW WE FIND OURSELVES AT THIS CURRENT POINT.

I APOLOGIZED TO MRS. ANNE T. COONROD. I SPENT MANY HOURS TALKING ABOUT THIS. HER SHOWING ME THE PLANS, EACH OF US, IN OUR MIND HAD A SPACE, AND AMOUNT OF SPACE. UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT THAT SPACE WHEN WE ARE SITTING UP HERE AND WE HAVE NEVER COME TO CONSENSUS ABOUT THE ALLOWABLE SPACE.

I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE CONSENSUS AROUND THAT FIRST. IS IT 1200 FEET.

LET'S DECIDE THAT FIRST. THEN, THE LENGTH OF THE LEASE, IS IT SIX MORE YEARS OR 40 MORE YEARS OR WHAT WILL WE DECIDE HERE? THOSE ARE THE VARIABLES THAT I SEE WHEN MAKING THIS DECISION. COMMISSIONER ROSS, I SEE YOUR LIGHT.

( INDISCERNIBLE ) SPECIAL SESSION WHEN YOU SAY WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM AND THIS WAS AGREED

TO BY BOTH PARTIES. >> CAN YOU READ ME. >> I DON'T WANT TO READ THIS

WHOLE THING. >> IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. WHEN THE CITY BUILDS THIS, THEY WILL DEMOLISH THE BUILDING AND YOU HAVE A CHOICE. YOU CAN BUILD A NEW BUILDING FOR 1200 SQUARE FEET, I DON'T THINK IT SAYS 1200 SQUARE FEET, WHATEVER IT SAYS, APPROXIMATELY, 1200 SQUARE FEET OR YOUR LEASE IS LEASE IS TERMINATED. THIS WAS AGREED TO.

>> DOES IT SAY THE LEAST WILL BE TERMINATED? DOES IT HAVE THAT LANGUAGE?

>> IT SHALL ONLY BE COMMITTED TO CONSTRUCT THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE DEMISED PREMISES TO BE MOVED TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW BOARDWALK. SECOND OF ALL, THAT CITY ENGINEER, JUST SAID SOMETHING PRETTY AMAZING. YOU COME IN AND PUT THIS IN AND THE BUILDING WILL FALL APART. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN. THE BUILDING IS ALLOWED AND WE CAN'T GET INSURANCE BECAUSE IT IS IN SUCH POOR CONDITION. THIRD OF ALL THE PARKING, IS NOT PART OF IT. THE MARINA WHICH WE HAVE A PLACE FOR.

THIS AREA WILL GET SQUEEZED AND THE PROPERTY MAY EVAPORATE BECAUSE YOU NEED ROOM FOR TWO RAMPS TO GO IN THERE. I THINK, IT IS TRUE THAT THE CITY DID NOT ANTICIPATE THIS.

BOTH PARTIES AGREED. THIS WAS NOT 13 YEARS AGO. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PROMOTE THIS FOR MORE THAN THREE YEARS. WE HAVE GOTTEN NOWHERE. TO ME, STOPPING THE PROJECT IS NOT AN OPTION. WE HAVE WORKED LONG AND HARD TO DO THAT.

WE WILL HAVE A MAGNIFICENT RIVERWALK THERE. I THINK THE OLD BUILDING, WILL FALL OVER, AND IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED.

I'M SORRY IT WILL IMPACT THE BUILDING BUT THAT WAS AGREED TO 13 YEARS AGO.

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>> SO THE ANSWER IS NO? >> MY ANSWER IS FOLLOW THE LEASE AND THAT IS 1200 SQUARE FEET.

OTHERWISE, WE PART WAYS. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I DON'T SEE ANY. SO, WE WILL TAKE A VOTE ON THE LEASE.

THE QUESTION I HAVE IN MIND, AFTER THE VOTE, WHAT HAPPENS? COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I WOULD DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER AND ATTORNEY, TO SEE WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE AND TO COME

BACK NEXT WEEK. >> I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.

EITHER SHE BUILDS A NEW BUILDING, OR WALKS A WAY FROM THE LEASE.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> >> GENERALLY THOSE ARE THE

OPTIONS. >> HE OR SHE GETS A BUILDING, AND YOU HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THE

ISSUE OF EXTENDING THE LEASE. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> FOR WE WALK AWAY FROM THE FROM THE LEASE. I JUST WANT BACK CLEAR ON THE RECORD.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> I SEE NONE WOULD CALL THE VOTE.

THE VOTE, CITY CLERK REMIND US IT IS TO APPROVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. (ROLL CALL). >> THAT FAILED 1-4.

[7.5 GRANT APPLICATION - FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION (FDEP)]

THIS IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE NEW BUDGET, SO IF YOU APPROVE THIS IT BECOMES ONE OF THE PLACEHOLDERS FOR THE 2022-23 BUDGET PROJECT. EXCEL STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL

OF THIS GRANT APPLICATION. TANGIBLE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> DO I HAVE TO SPEAKERS ON THIS? >> GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS ROGER. I SERVED ON THE BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE.

I AM A CERTIFIED VALUE SPECIALISTS AND PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.

AS PART OF MY WORK I PARTICIPATED IN A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN THE REVIEW OF COASTAL STORM RISK PROJECTS FOR THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. IT WAS A PLEASURE TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE AND GRATIFYING TO SEE A REPORT USED AS INTENDED. I RECOMMEND SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION FOR MATCHING FUNDS FOR THE GRANT. AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS NUMBER 16 FOR IMPROVEMENTS. WE RECOMMENDED ( INDISCERNIBLE ).

THE FIRST THREE ON THE LIST, ONLY ACCESS 16 TO THE SHORELINE. RESILIENCY IMPROVEMENTS ARE CRITERIA FOR RECEIVING THE GRANT. IN THE CURRENT SPACE.

IT IS DEGRADING. THIS WILL ALLOW THE GROWTH. FURTHER THIS PROJECT IS IN

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PROJECTS LIKE ACCESS 16 SHOULD HELP THE CITY WITH FUTURE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES BY

DEMONSTRATING THE RESILIENCE EFFORT SPIRIT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MR. MORRIS. >> THANK YOU.

>> MORRIS, A 21 ( INDISCERNIBLE ). ALONE WITH MY COLLEAGUES I WAS ON THE BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE THAT THIS CITY MANAGER PUT TOGETHER.

WE SERVE FOR SIX MONTHS AND IT WAS POWERFUL. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING JUST SAID ON FIRST AVENUE IT IS ACCESSED BY THIRD STREET ACROSS THE ROAD FROM ACCESS 16.

THERE ARE MANY PUBLIC PARKING SPACES THERE. IT SERVES NOT ONLY THE HOUSES AROUND IT BUT THE HOMES ALONG FIRST AVENUE. PLUS DOZENS OF PARKING SPACES THAT ARE PUBLIC PARKING PLUS THE SMALL PARKING AREA. THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO PUT IN. PUTTING IN A WALK OVER THERE IMPROVES THE DOOMED SYSTEM WHICH GETS WIPED OUT. THE SYSTEM WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO GROW AND STRENGTHEN.

AND SOME OF THE PEDESTRIAN PRESSURE OFF OF THE BEACH WHERE THE VEHICLES ARE.

PEOPLE CAN WALK UP THE SIDEWALK GO TO THE PEDESTRIAN BEACH IT TAKES A LOT OF PRESSURE AND INCREASES THE SAFETY FACTOR THIS IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. WE ARE GETTING AT 48% COST IF THE GRANT IS APPROVED WHICH IS GOOD BUSINESS. TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, THE PARKS AND REC FUN. IT IS GOOD BUSINESS AND A SAFETY ISSUE AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. >> VICTORIA. >> VICTORIA R.

FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA. IT WAS MY PLEASURE FOR THE BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE, WHERE SEVERAL OF MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES ARE HERE TONIGHT, EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR BEACH ACCESS 16 FOR THIS GRANT.

WE BELIEVE, THERE ARE SO MANY POSITIVES THAT CAN COME OUT OF FOLLOWING UP AND PROVIDING A WALKOVER. I WILL MENTION, IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE PRESENTED IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR AND AS A FOLLOW UP YOU REVIEWED THE REPORT.

UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FUNDING OF SO MANY OF THESE BOARDWALKS THAT NEED TO BE REBUILT OR INSTALLED IS A VERY HEALTHY PRICE TAG WE UNDERSTAND THAT. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS TO BE PUT INTO A BUDGET. WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE GRANT PROCESS AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAY PRESENT THEMSELVES. WE STARTED WITH SIX NORTH.

IT IS IN PROGRESS. THIS WAS OUR SECOND CHOICE BUT 40 HAS A VERY EXPENSIVE PRICE TAG. THERE IS INCREDIBLE RESILIENCE BUILT INTO BEACH ACCESS 40 AND THE FACT OF THE PIPE AND THE LENGTH OF THE DUNES THAT EXISTS THERE ARE VERY PROTECTIVE AND IT PROVIDES RESILIENCY THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. WHEN WE LOOK AT AREAS THAT DO NEED OUR HELP, BEACH ACCESS 16 IS ONE OF THOSE. TO FIND AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE WE HAVE TODAY, TO GO AHEAD AND COMMIT TO LOOKING AT THE SMALLER BUT FRAGILE ENVIRONMENTS WHERE WE CAN DO GOOD BOARDWALKS AND STRENGTHEN THE SYSTEMS IN THE AREAS, I THINK THAT IS VERY POSITIVE FOR RESILIENCY IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE SAY, WE ARE NOT LEAVING BEHIND OUR SCHEDULE. IT WAS ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD IT WOULD BE BASED ON BUDGETS AND THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION AS TO WHICH OPPORTUNITIES WOULD PRESENT THEMSELVES.

THERE ARE SEVERAL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT OUR EXPENSIVE

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>> OKAY, VICE MAYOR. >> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, WE DID A CLOSE PARTNERSHIP GRANT.

SIX NORTH IS APPROVED, THIS WILL BE THE THIRD GRANT. SIXTEEN WAS INCLUDED AND THE REQUEST THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED AND 16 WAS IN THAT. IT IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL STUDY THEY DID HERE TO ELIMINATE THE GAP. ALTHOUGH IT WAS MENTIONED, IT IS NEW CONSTRUCTION DUE TO GROWTH. SO, CAN YOU DO IT. VICTORIA MADE SOME EXCELLENT POINTS. SOME THINGS WE HAVE NOT CLARIFIED.

FROM THE SOUTH YOU HAVE THIS WALKOVER. IF YOU WERE TO DO ALL OF THAT, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ONLY A FOOT, FOUR-POINT $5 MILLION. WE WOULD DO IT AT ONCE BUT YOUR

POINT IS WELL TAKEN. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WE ARE NOT DOING 40 AND WE ARE DOING THIS MAINLY BECAUSE OF COST.

NAMELY THAT IS IT. >> YOU ARE ALSO ELIMINATING A CAP.

>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTION -- COMMISSIONERS?

PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. >> THAT WILL PASS 5-0. ORDINANCES, A .1.

[8. ORDINANCE - FIRST READING]

TAXICAB REGULATION. >> ORDINANCE 2021-36 AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA, BY AMENDING CHAPTER 86, VEHICLES FOR HIRE, BY REPEALING ARTICLE THREE, TAXICABS IN ITS ENTIRETY PROVIDED FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. WE SAID THAT UBER IS NOT REGULATED BY THE CITY BUT THE DISPATCH SERVICE CORPORATION, LYFT, UBER, TAXICABS, WE HAVE NOT BEEN REGISTERING THE TAXICABS IN THE CITY OR INSPECTING THEM. IF WE ARE NOT ENFORCING THAT,

THEN WE PROBABLY DO NOT NEED IT ON THE BOOKS. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE.

MADAME CLERK. WE ARE VOTING RIGHT? >> S.

>> (ROLL CALL). >> BEFORE YOU GO ON, I JUST WANTED TO PUT A BUG IN YOUR EAR.

THE SECOND IS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CHIEF WHO WILL KNOW, WE HAVE HEARD, AND I WILL NOT GET INTO DETAILS, NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES HAPPY WITH TAXICABS THAT HAVE GONE DOWNTOWN TO PICK UP BEARS LATE AT NIGHT. THEY WERE NOT REGULATED. I HAVE SEEN THESE DURING THE DAY WHERE THEY HAVE CHALK ON THE WINDOW THAT SAYS TAXI AND PEOPLE OF GOD INTO THEM, IM NOT SURE IF THERE WERE CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS, I WOULD HAVE A CHAT OR SOMETHING WITH THE CHIEF TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PROBLEMS GOING ON OUT THERE, THAT WE WOULD BE WISE NOT TO REPEAL AND MAKE SURE WE ARE

ENFORCING IT. >> OKAY. >> MY BRAIN IS GOING WILD.

IS THE CHIEF HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT? >> BUT CHEAP IS NOT HERE BUT WE DO HAVE ANOTHER OFFICER HERE WHO HAS EXPERIENCED. BECAUSE IT IS FIRST READING WE

[02:15:05]

I WILL MAKE SURE HE IS HERE BEFORE OR THAT HE REACHES OUT AND I HAVE A CONVERSATION.

I DON'T THINK THERE HAS BEEN ARRESTS OF PEOPLE DRIVING TAXIS OR DOING ANYTHING WRONG BUT I HAVE HEARD OF THE COMPLAINTS FROM OUR FORMER MAYOR WHO DID EXPERIENCE THAT.

>> WELL HE NEEDS TO BE HERE ON THE SECOND READING. >> THANK YOU.

>> CITY ATTORNEY. ARGUES SUGGESTING THAT, MAY BE WE ARE MOVING TOO QUICKLY ON THIS? RECENTLY, I HAD THIS APP WHERE I CAN PRESS A BUTTON AND I CAN GET LYFT. IT HAD SOME SAFEGUARDS IT TELLS YOU WHO'S COMING AND THE LICENSE

PLATES AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE SAYING MOVE FORWARD. >> I DON'T HAVE THE FACTS.

THIS HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A LONG TIME. AT LEAST EIGHT YEARS.

WHEN WE PUT IT ALL INTO PLACE, WE PUT INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE.

IF YOU DRIVE FOR UBER IT'S THERE. WITH INDIVIDUAL TAXI DRIVERS, ONE OF THE THINGS HE BROUGHT UP, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WHEN THEY HAVE VALID INSURANCE, LET'S SAY THEY PAY MONTHLY FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT IF THEY DON'T PAY? DO THEY PAY THE NEXT MONTH? WE HAVE A BUILDING DEPARTMENT WITHOUT LICENSING GOING ON AND THERE ISN'T ENOUGH STAFF TO MAKE SURE -- THERE ARE A LOT OF TAXICAB BUSINESSES OPERATING. WE JUST DO NOT HAVE THE STAFF.

TO HAVE IT ON THE BOOKS ARE NOT ENFORCED, IS NOT WISE. I THINK, WHAT I AM SAYING, IN THE NEXT EARLY DAYS, WE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION BEFORE OR DURING THE SECOND READING TO SEE IF THERE IS ACTIVITY THAT IS CONCERNING, SO IF WE REPEAL THIS AND WE MAKE SURE WE ARE ENFORCING IT PROPERLY.

WE WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE ANOTHER 30 DAYS. IF YOU FEEL LIKE I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO HASTILY I APOLOGIZE WE WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW

BY SECOND READING. >> ALL RIGHT CAN WE CALL THE VOTE?

[9. BOARD APPOINTMENTS]

>> I MOVE TO A POINT. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> CALLED THE VOTE.

(ROLL CALL). >> IT PASSES 5-0. CITY MANAGER REPORT.

[10. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

>> I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN NEXT MONDAY ATTENDING MY DAUGHTER'S WEDDING RECEPTION.

ALSO NEXT WEEK, ON TUESDAY IN THESE CHAMBERS, THE WATER MANAGEMENT WILL HAVE THEIR BOARD MEETING. YOU HAVE ALL RECEIVED INVITATIONS.

THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION WILL HAVE THEIR BEAST FEES IT WILL BE FROM 5:00 P.M. UNTIL 8:00 P.M.

IT IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO JOIN ME, IT WILL BE ON THURSDAY OCTOBER 21. WE CONTINUE TO TRACK FEMA'S RESPONSE. THEIR OFFICIAL RESPONSE IS DUE TO THE LATEST REQUEST ON

SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 13. >> IM HEARING DIFFERENT STUFF ABOUT THE CHANNEL REGARDING THE

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NONPROFIT. CAN WE GET AN UPDATE? >> NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

THE COMMITTEE AS YOU KNOW WAS RECONSTITUTED AND PUT TOGETHER LAST YEAR.

THEY HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK. THERE'S FIVE MEMBERS ON THE BOARD.

THREE OUT OF THE FIVE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN WORKING OUTSIDE OF THE COMMITTEE TO FORM A NOT FOR PROFIT GROUP THAT IS WORKING ON A FILM FESTIVAL, SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM.

BUT THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING IS THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT DID APPROVE A GRANT,

FOR THE FILM FESTIVAL, NOT FOR THE NONPROFIT. >> THE FILM FESTIVAL ITSELF, IT IS THE NONPROFIT THAT WOULD BE PUTTING IT TOGETHER. IM NOT SURE WHAT WAS PRESENTED.

BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, THAT WILL BE CONTINUED THROUGH YOUR ROLE.

>> I KNOW THAT INFORMATION. THE $50,000 WAS A FILM FESTIVAL. THEY WILL DISTRIBUTE AND CONTROL IT. MY QUESTION IS, HOW DOES IT FIT INTO THE NONPROFIT AND HOW DOES

IT WORK? >> I ATTENDED THEIR MEETING LAST NIGHT.

THEY INVITED ME TOO ASK THE QUESTIONS, WE HAVE A NONPROFIT, A LOT OF WHAT IT IS DOING IS PART OF THE BUSINESS PLAN. SO, I SUGGESTED THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE NONPROFIT, TWO ARE ON THE BOARD AND ONE IS IN A RELATIONSHIP AND WORKING WITH AND I SUGGESTED ALL THREE RESIGNED. THERE'S TOO MUCH OPPORTUNITY FOR VIOLATIONS ADVERT TO MEMBERS LEFT ON THE COMMITTEE, WHAT THEY SHOULD DO IS EITHER DECIDE THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO SERVE AND MAYBE THEY HAVE SERVED THEIR PURPOSE OR FIND OTHER MEMBERS TO FILL THE SEA.

I LEFT -- I LEFT THE MEETING AFTER I WAS DONE ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AFTERWARDS. WE WILL HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED.

THEY ARE HAVING ANOTHER MEETING NEXT MONTH TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION.

WE WILL BE MONITORING THAT. >> I AM CONFUSED AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON.

>> I THINK EVERYONE IS CONFUSED OTHER THAN THE MEMBERS PART OF THE NONPROFIT.

I THINK, WHAT WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TOO, THEY HAVE A PURPOSE, A RESOLUTION AND THEY NEED TO FOLLOW THAT. I HAVE ALREADY SUGGESTED IT. I DID NOT EVEN SUGARCOAT IT, I

JUST SENT YOU THREE NEED TO RESIGN. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE

BUT YOU NEED TO RESIGN. >> NUMBER ONE, ON THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

THE OFFICERS ARE CERTIFIED? >> I HAVE NOT CONFIRMED. >> AND DID WE HAVE ANY

COMPLAINTS FROM DOWNTOWN? >> ACCORDING TO THE CHIEF, I DID RECEIVE AN E-MAIL COMPLAINING OF NOISE AFTER MIDNIGHT ON SATURDAY, I REVIEWED THE CALENDAR AND IT APPEARED THE LAST BAN ON THOSE SHRIMP FESTIVAL TOOK THE STAGE AT 5:00 P.M.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY PLAYED FOR SIX HOURS. I DON'T BELIEVE THE NOISE WAS RELATED TO THE SHRIMP FESTIVAL STAGE, BUT ACCORDING TO THE CHIEF THERE WAS ONE NOISE

[02:25:06]

COMPLAINTS DURING THE SURVEILLANCE WILL. >> THEORETICALLY THE ENFORCEMENT

OF THE NOISE COMMITTEE SHOULD TAKE PLACE THIS WEEK. >> CORRECT.

>> THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE. >> PEOPLE CAN START CALLING AND

SAYING, I AM HAVING A PROBLEM. >> MY SECOND QUESTION IS, THE RADAR INSPECTION OF THE SUBSTRUCTURE. DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT WILL TAKE PLACE?

>> IT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR LATE LAST WEEK BUT THE FIRM WAS CALLED AWAY.

I DO THINK THEY WILL BE IN TOWN THIS WEEK. >> I WILL CONFIRM.

>> MR. GEORGE IS NOT HERE. NEEDED TO BE PRESSURE WASHING COMPLETED AND THAT WAS DONE LAST WEEK. AFTER THURSDAY OF LAST WEEK, THE COMPANY DOING THE IMAGING HAD TO GO TO ANOTHER PART OF THE STATE. AND THEY HAVE TO WATCH THE TIME CHARTS.

THIS COMING FRIDAY OCTOBER 8, THEY WILL HAVE A REPORT READY. I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY THAT WE RETAIN TO REVIEW THE IMAGERY AND SEE IF THEY COULD HAVE A REPORT DONE THAT SAME WEEK.

THEY WOULD LOOK AT THE IMAGING, BEGINNING NEXT WEEK AND CAN THEY PROVIDE US A REPORT.

WE DO HAVE A HEARING ON OCTOBER 20. >> YOU MAY AS WELL STAY THERE.

[11. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]

>> ITEM 11. >> THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO REPORT BUT I AM WATCHING THIS AND I WAS INVITED TO PARTICIPATE. THERE HAS BEEN A BILL PROPOSED, I HAVE READ THE SUMMARY OF IT. IT IS A BILL THAT REQUIRES ANY ORDINANCE THAT IS ADOPTED BY A CITY OR COUNTY, THERE BE A BUSINESS IMPACT STATEMENT INCLUDED WITH THE REPORT, THE ORDINANCE HAS TO RELATE AND HAVE AN ACCESS WITH HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE AND IF IT DOESN'T, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WANTED TO, I AM NOT SAYING THAT WE DID, MANY COMMUNITIES, THEY HAVE DESIGN STANDARDS UNLESS THERE ARE SPECIFIC PUD SPIRIT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS, THIS MAKES OUR TOWN LOOK BETTER, YOU COULD NOT PASS THAT ORDINANCE UNLESS YOU WERE ABLE TO PROVE IT HAD NO IMPACT ON ANY BUSINESS ENTITY OR BUSINESS, AND IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH PROTECTING THE PUBLIC SAFETY HEALTH AND WELFARE. THAT IS WHAT I KNOW SO FAR. AND IF THAT IS THE CASE, THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM. WE KNOW THE STATE HAS PREEMPTED CERTAIN THINGS BUT THIS, IT WON'T MAKE US USELESS, AS ENTITIES, BUT IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF TEETH OUT OF THE ABILITY FOR YOU TO HAVE POWERS. TAXICAB REGULATIONS FOR EXAMPLE. I COULD NOT SAY THEY COULD THINK ABOUT IT. WHEN THEY SAY DO BUSINESS IMPACT STATEMENTS THEY DON'T MEAN THE MANAGER GETS UP THERE AND SAYS IT MEANS YOU HAVE TO BASICALLY DO A STUDY OR HAVE ANY CPA OR SOMETHING DO THE STATEMENT. IT IS CONCERNING AND I AM PARTICIPATING IN A GROUP THAT WILL HELP LOVING THE LEGISLATION AGAINST THIS. I SUSPECT IT WILL NOT PASS BUT THE BILLS ARE GETTING MORE SCARY. SOME HAVE PASSED.

[12. CITY CLERK REPORTS]

I WILL KEEP YOU UP TO DATE. >> THANK YOU. >> ITEM 12.

THE CITY CLERK REPORT. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY. (ROLL CALL) -- (SPEAKING AWAY

[02:30:05]

THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HAS A VACANCY. THE PENSION PLAN AS THREE

VACANCIES AND COURT ENFORCEMENT HAS A VACANCY. >> ALL RIGHT, ITEM 13,

[13. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. >> I LIKE TO READ AN E-MAIL THAT I RECEIVED FROM A RESIDENT.

A NOTE TO SING PRAISES TO THE STAFF. THE YOUNG MEN WORKING ON THE SYSTEM ARE TOP-NOTCH. I LIVE ON SOUTH FOURTH STREET AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A DEDICATED, HYPER FULL -- HELPFUL GROUP. THEY ALL HAVE SMILES ON THEIR FACES AND WILLING TO TAKE TIME TO HELP EACH CLIENT. THANK YOU TO ALL OF THEM.

JUST A SHOUT OUT TO THEM. >> >> I JUST WANT TO START ON WITH A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR CITY STAFF. EVERYONE IN THE CITY THAT WORKS TIRELESSLY TO HELP THE CITY. I THINK THE STAFF IS PHENOMENAL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT OUT THERE. I WANT TO REITERATE AND I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE BEAUTIFUL PINS THAT CAROLINE GAVE US. BREAST CANCER MONTH IS OCTOBER. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AND VITAL TO THINK OF THE PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS. AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE THERE FOR FAMILY MEMBERS AND PEOPLE WHO NEED THESE HEALTH CONCERNS.

NOBODY UNDERSTANDS AND NO ONE REALLY KNOWS UNTIL YOU ARE AND A.

I WANT TO THANK FRONT CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL EVENT.

THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN CITY EMPLOYEES THAT CAME, THREE COMMISSIONERS THAT CAME.

THEY HAD A GOOD TIME. I HAD A CHAT WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

IT WAS A VERY BEAUTIFUL EVENT. I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THEM AND SHOUT OUT TO THEM FOR

BEING COMMUNITY LEADERS. >> I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I GOT ENGAGED LAST WEEK. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. SADLY NONE OF YOU CAN BE INVITED. I WILL BE GLAD TO SEE YOU GUYS THERE.

>> I KNOW MY WIFE IS WATCHING AT HOME SO I LOVE YOU. >> CONGRATULATIONS.

>> >> SATURDAY AT 8:00 A.M. IS THE FOOD GIVEAWAY.

THIS IS REALLY EXCITING. ON THE 22ND OF OCTOBER, THEY WILL MAKE IT OFFICIAL THEIR THREE YEAR STUDY WHICH WILL BE VERY INTERESTING IN TERMS OF SETTING PRIORITIES FOR PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY. IT'S A WEBINAR AND I'M SURE YOU ALL CAN GO IF YOU'D LIKE.

CONGRATULATIONS. >> CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR FIANCÉ TOO.

>> ALL RIGHT, AND FINALLY, WE HAD SOME NOTABLE PASSING SPIRIT IM SAD TO ANNOUNCE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) WHOM WE RECOGNIZED HERE FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AGO FOR HIS WORK.

[02:35:04]

HE TOUCHED MANY LIVES. -- HER SERVICE IS OCTOBER 13. AND AS THEY SAID THIS IS BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH. GET YOUR PIN, WEAR IT PROUDLY, WHERE YOUR PINK.

LET'S RECOGNIZE EVERYONE. AND ALL OF THE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.