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>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: HERE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: HERE.
>> BRADLEY BEAN: HERE. >> RONALD ROSS: HERE.
>> HERE. >> HOUSE KEEPING ITEMS. IF YOU TURN YOUR CELL PHONES OFF, PUT IT ON AIRPLANE OR VIBRATE, THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
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[3.1 ESTABLISH LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES]
THANK YOU, ITEM 3, DISCUSSION. 3.1, ESTABLISH LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF VICE-MAYOR KREGER.VICE-MAYOR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR.
>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: GOOD MORNING.
I WANT TO BRIEFLY GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
OVER THE PAST SINCE 2016 TO 2021, WE RECEIVED OVER $3 MILLION FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA OF THE PROCESS STARTING OFF WITH STORMWATER IN 2016 STORMWATER, RESILIENCY, WALKOVERS, SOME OF THE SH SHORELINE STABILIZATION.
SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW -- THE COMMITTEE IS ALREADY MEETING IN TALLAHASSEE. THEY MET ONE WEEK AND THEY ARE STARTING AGAIN ON OCTOBER 11. THE SESSION WILL BEGIN JANUARY 11. THE DELEGATION WHO WE ACTUALLY APPROACH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR LEGISLATION -- RECOMMENDED LEGISLATION HAVEN'T -- HAVEN'T SET A DATE YET, BUT SHOULD BE SET SHORTLY. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BEAN'S LAST YEAR WHICH IS EFFECTIVE WANT TO PUT PRESSURE ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVE BYRD. THE AGENDA -- WE SORT OF SAID OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS A COMMITTEE.
SHORELINE STABILIZATION HAS BEEN A RECOMMENDATION.
LOOKING AT MAYBE $1 MILLION. THE TECH CENTER IS ALSO A RECOMMENDATION. I THINK THE PRICE IS GOING UP ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. AND WE HAVE COMMITTED TO BEACH WALKOVERS, SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE COMMITTED TO -- WHEN WE MOVED THE BUDGET FOR NORTH BEACH P PARK.
I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT WE RESUBMIT THE $500,000 REQUEST THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE BUT VETOED IN 2020 WHICH ACTUALLY INCLUDED TEN WALK-THROUGH WALKEVERS.
IT WILL HAVE TO BE REWORKED BECAUSE FIVE SOUTH HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE AND SIX NORTH IS ALREADY APPROVED.
SO THAT WOULD BE -- I THINK THOSE WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I INCLUDED ESCAMBIA AND I INCLUDED ATLANTIC AT THE -- AT THE REC CENTER.
AND INCLUDED THOSE AND I DON'T EXPECT THEY WILL MOVE FORWARD, BUT I INCLUDED THOSE BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE THE PAINT THAT THEY ARE AS VULNERABLE AS DOWNTOWN, AND WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THE REST OF THE CITY. THEN THE ADDITIONAL THINGS ARE TO RECOMMEND SOME CHANGES IN THE PORT STATUE THAT WILL INCLUDE EMINENT DOMAIN AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME THINGS REMOVED IN TERMS OF -- I SENT THAT OUT TO REMOVE THE -- TO CLARIFY RESPONSIBILITIES, TO REMOVE THE AUTHORITY FOR A PAPER MILL AND REMOVE THE AUTHORITY FOR AN OIL REFINERY WHICH ARE IN THE ORDINANCE. THE ONLY OTHER THING THINK THAT RECOMMENDED WHICH WE HAVE DONE BEFORE IS TO RESCIND A STATE LAW -- A STATE LAW HOUSE BILL 2327 WHICH WE ALL HAVE A COPY OF WHICH APPLIES ONLY TO FERNANDINA BEACH THAT SAYS WE CAN'T DISPOSE OF PROPERTY EXCEPT AT MARKET OR APPRAISED RATE AND INTENDED TO ALLOW US TO DONATE PROPERTY IF THE COMMISSION SO DESIRED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WHATEVER ELSE. THOSE WERE MY RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS -- I GUESS THE WAY WE APPROACH IT IS TO DETERMINE IF THOSE PRIORITIES ARE GOOD.
THOSE THREE -- NUMBER ONE THAT WE PRETTY MUCH ALL APPROVED AND CITY MANAGER WILL COME BACK WITH A FORMER RESOLUTION.
>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: COMMISSIONER BEAN?
>> BRADLEY BEAN: I CAN'T AGREE MORE WITH THE VICE-MAYOR'S WORDS. I BELIEVE THAT IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE. THIS IS CERTAINLY THE YEAR WITH OUR LOCAL INTERESTS ARE HIGHLY REPRESENTED WITH THE STATE OF
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FLORIDA. THIS IS THE YEAR TO GET FUNDING FOR THE CITY. AND IT IS STAFFED WITH GOALS.I WILL SECOND THE VICE-MAYOR'S PLANS.
>> ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER STURGES.
DAVID STURGES I THINK IT IS RIGHT ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND WE NEED TO FOLLOW BUSINESS WITH THE CITY ESPECIALLY WITH THE STATE LEVEL TO GET AS MUCH FUNDING AS WE CAN GET.
SO I MOVE THAT WE -- I AM IN AGREEANCE WITH ALL -- ALL TWO OF THOSE OTHER COMMISSIONERS OVER ON THAT SIDE, BRADLEY AND LEN. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: ANY THOUGHTS, COMMISSIONER ROSS?
>> RONALD ROSS: I ALWAYS LIKE MONEY.
SO THOSE ARE THREE -- YEAH, A MILLION DOLLARS FOR SHORELINE STABILIZATION. WE AGREE TO THAT.
THAT IS ONE. FUNDING IN ESCAMBIA, SCRATCH THAT. FUNDING IN CREEK.
SCRATCH THAT. REINSTATE THE WALKOVERS TO $500,000. AGREE TO THAT.
AND WE WILL AGREE WITH -- THE CENTER THROUGH ANOTHER WAY.
IS THAT CORRECT? >> WE HAVE APPLIED FOR A GRANT, MR. MAYOR, BUT AT THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR WE FOLLOWED A T TWO-PRONGED ATTACK. TO PUT THIS -- FOR ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
HERE ARE LAST YEAR'S EFFORTS. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: ANOTHER MILLION DOLLAR FOR PIC K. FOR THE PORT -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT BUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE PORT MASTER PLAN WHICH BASICALLY GOES ALONG WITH WHAT VICE-MAYOR KREGER SAID WE GIVE POWER -- GET RID OF THE POWER OF COMMENDATION AND HAVE THE PORT RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY MUNICIPALITY THAT WE ARE IN. AND IT ELIMINATED THE -- THE PAPER MILL AND THE OIL REF REFINERY.
SO I WOULD AGREE WITH ALL THOSE THINGS.
OH, THE LAST ONE IS THE -- >> OKAY.
SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS AMONG THE FIVE OF US.
SAINT ANDREW ARE YOU -- >> DURING THE TIMING, WE WILL EXPEDITE GETTING THIS ON COMMISSION AGENDA TO FORMALLY PRESENT THESE TO THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION BY A
RESOLUTION. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, SIR. ANYTHING ELSE ON 3.1?
[3.2 WATERFRONT PARK - STRATEGIC REVIEW]
WE ARE GOOD? ITEM 3.2, WATERFRONT PARK STRATEGIC REVIEW. THIS ITEM PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY VICE-MAYOR KREGER. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR.>> LEN KREGER: DALE, IF YOU HAVE THIS SLIDE UP.
ORIGINALLY WAS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING BUT THIS GOT PUSHED FORWARD AND BECAUSE WE WILL BE DEALING WITH THIS ITEM AGENDA-WISE PART PARTIALLY.
I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE IN TERMS OF -- WE BASICALLY ESTABLISHED A FOOTPRINT TO THE PARK.
WE DID THIS A LONG TIME AGO. THEY -- YOU GUYS WEREN'T ON Y YET, BUT AT THAT TIME IT INCLUDED WITH THE GREEN SPACE UP HERE THE SIMMONS PROPERTY. SO WHEN THE EMINENT DOMAIN WENT AWAY, THE GREEN SPACE WENT A AWAY.
SO WE NEVER APPROVED ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE SHORELINE STABILIZATION ELEMENTS FOR C AND D.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT POINT HAS BEEN DEBATED BEFORE, AND I THINK WE NEED TO BACK UP AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT, BECAUSE WE ARE, AND THE CITIZEN SURVEY WILL INCLUDE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU ADDRESSED. SO THIS WHOLE GREEN SPACE HAS GONE AWAY AND ALACHUA HERE. WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO HERE WAS NEVER APPROVED ANYWAY BY THE COMMISSION.
SO BEFORE WE STARTED EXPANDING, I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOME KIND OF APPROVAL PROCESS AND THE POINT HAS BEEN MADE OF THE CITIZEN -- YOU MADE THAT VERY GOOD AND THAT IS GOING TO BE THE QUESTION AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET TO SOME INPUT.
I WAS NEVER SURE IF THIS PROCESS WENT THROUGH AND -- I WAS NEVER SURE WHAT THE ACTUAL ULTIMATE GOAL OF CITIZENS WAS FROM HERE. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING BECAUSE WE HAVE QUESTIONS TH THERE.
AND THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING. WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AND APPROVE IT BEFORE WE START PIECEMEALING THE PROCESS. THAT IS MY POINT.
>> COMMISSIONER STURGES. DAVID STURGES THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I THINK THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I GOT A LOT F E-MAIL PHONE CALLS ABOUT THE WATERFRONT AND EVERYBODY I SPOKE TO SAY NOBODY FILLS OUT THOSE SURVEYS OR
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NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THESE DIFFERENT ITEMS. WELL, THEY HAVE TO BE INTERACTIVE WITH THE CITY.IF THE CITY AS A WHOLE, THE LEADERSHIP WHICH IS US AS CITY CITY COMMISSIONERS AREN'T AWARE OF WHAT THE MAJORITY WANT TO DO IF 280 OR 260 PEOPLE OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER WAS DOES THE SURVEY AND SAYS WHAT THEY WANT IN THE PARK.
THAT WILL BE OUR SURVEY. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SURVEY COMING UP SHORTLY, RIGHT. I THINK THAT IS KEY THE LAST MEETING AND I HAVE GONE OVER THERE.
CONSTANTLY DREDGING THIS MA MARINA.
CONSTANTLY DREDGING IT. AT SOME POINT -- AND IT COST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS TO MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DREDGE THIS MARINA, CONSTANTLY. IF THIS CONTINUES AT SOME POINT. AND I KNOW WE STARTED ON THE RESILIENCY WALL ON FAR SOUTH END COMING THIS DIRECTION WHEN IT IS A LOT OF DIRT, FOR ME THE COMMON SENSE IS TO GET AN ENGINEER. I AM NOT SAYING GOING G OUT AND GET A REPORT RIGHT NOW, BUT TO GO GET AN APPROVAL.
INSTEAD OF FIGHTING ALL OF THIS GETTING FILLED IN ON OTHER SIDE WOULD TO BE FILL THAT AREA IN AND MAKE IT A PARK AREA.
AND THAT IS WAY OVER THE TOP OF COME PEOPLE'S THINKING, BUT I THINK THAT IS A LOGICAL METHOD TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
THAT IS ON A DIFFERENT COURSE AND WAY OUT THERE FOR WHAT PEOPLE CAN HANDLE. THE REALITY IS, DO WE WANT A AMPHITHEATRE? THAT IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE BROUGHT UP. BUT I HEAR, NO, WE DON'T WANT AN AMPHITHEATRE. THAT WILL BRING PEOPLE DOW DOWNTOWN, WELL, ISN'T THE WHOLE IDEA TO BRING CITIZENS DOW DOWNTOWN? TO SPEND MONEY? TO USE THE SHOPS? TO ENJOY? AND WE TALK OF THE RESTAURANT AND BEAT THE RESTAURANT UP.
I HEARD MORE ABOUT THE RESTAURANT IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS THAN I HAVE HEARD IN THE LAST YEAR.
SO, WE NEED A GOOD CITIZEN RESPONSE WHAT THE CITIZENS REALLY WANT. IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING BUT PECK ON FACEBOOK, THREE TO FIVE TO 1,000 PEOPLE ON FACEBOOK SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
THIS IS RIDICULOUS, AND THEN 200 PEOPLE OR GET 30 PEOPLE AT THIS MEETING. IT MAKES ZERO SENSE TO COMPLAIN IF YOU ARE NOT REALLY GOING TO PUT INPUT IN AND BE A PART OF THE SYSTEM. THAT'S WHERE I AM COMING FROM.
AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE PROVIDE WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT AS A MAJORITY. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: VICE VICE-MAYOR.
>> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT OUR TWO CITIZEN SURVEYS OF 2014 HAD 400 RESPONSES.
OUR 2019 HAD 1,000 RESPONSES. WHICH IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT OTHER THAN -- YOU KNOW, WE HAD VARIOUS DIFFERENT ONES, DIFFERENT VENUES THAT SURVEY WE ARE USING WHERE THE QUESTIONS WILL BE ATTACHED. DAVID STURGES LEN, I THOUGHT THE COMPANY THAT HAD THAT DIDN'T HAVE THAT LARGE OF
RESPONSE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: THAT WAS ANOTHER SURVEY. THE QUESTIONS HAD 1,000 LAST TIME AROUND DAVID STURGES I WILL BE HAPPY TO SEE 1,000 BUT
REALLY 2,000 WILL BE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: I AGREE.
THAT IS A GOAL AND THE MAYOR MADE ADAMANT POINT ABOUT THAT.
GOAL TO GET REAL GOOD INPUT. IF WE DO IT RIGHT WE WILL MOVE
COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> RONALD ROSS: THE PARKS AND RE C DID A SURVEY AND A LITTLE OVER 1,000 RESPONSES.
PEAT THE BUSHES AND BEAT THE BUSHES AND BEAT THE BUSHES.
MULTIPLE PLATFORMS. ANYWAY YOU CAN THINK OF.
AND ONLY GOT A LITTLE OVER 1,000.
SO IT IS TYPICAL TO DO THAT. AND I AGREE WITH YOU.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO WAIT UNTIL WE -- BEFORE WE COME UP WITH THIS GRAND PLAN, THAT WE WAIT TO HEAR FROM THE PARKS AND REC THAT SHOULD BE COMING OUT SHORTLY.
WHAT THE SURVEY SAYS AND USE THIS NEW SURVEY SYSTEM TO DO A REALLY FOCUSED ONE AND SEE IF WE CAN BEAT THE BUSHES AND GET
PEOPLE TO RESPOND. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH:
COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> BRADLEY BEAN: THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO BRING UP THE POINT THAT WE HAD CONSENSUS OF THIS AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
WE HAD AN ENTIRE MEETING IN FEBRUARY WHERE WE EXCLUSIVELY TALKED OF CONCEPT E. AND LOOKING AT A PICTURE AND IN MY MIND, I KNOW WE FORMALLY APPROVED THE RESILIENT SEABOARD
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AND -- IN MY MEMORY AND GO TO THE TAPES TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT, I THOUGHT WE CAME TOGETHER AND SAID YES, THIS IS A GREAT OVERARCHING PLAN TO WORK FOR AND WE DON'T DO EMINENT DOMAIN AND THAT CERTAINLY WON'T EFFECT THE 90% OF THE PLAN THAT GOES DOWN FROM THERE. I WOULD SAY THAT I AM -- I AM SEEING A RISK HERE. BECAUSE -- IN FEBRUARY, WHEN WE HAD THAT MEETING, WE DID GET CITIZEN INPUT.WE HAD -- A GROUP OF PEOPLE HERE.
IT WAS PACKED. A BIG DEAL AT THE TIME AND HERE WE ARE MONTHS LATER AND WE ARE ACTING LIKE WE HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE LIKE WE DIDN'T GET INPUT AND GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND ASK AGAIN. I THINK WE HAVE.
I THINK WE HAVE. I THINK CONCEPT E IS A GREAT PLAN, ONE THAT I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPLEMENTED AND ONE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US WORKING TOWARD.
I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE CAN HAVE A BAND SHELL RIGHT BY THE RIVER FRONT WHERE WE CAN LOOK AND HAVE EVENTS AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE SHRIMP FEST SET UP A TEMPORARY SET ANYMORE.
THEY CAN BE RIGHT THERE ON THE STAGE AND A COMMUNITY GATHERING SPOT, ONE THAT I BELIEVE OUR PUBLIC DOES WANT.
I AM CONFIDENT IN THE FACT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SURVEYS BACK THAT UP. BUT IN MY MIND, I BELIEVE WE ALREADY HAD THAT CONSENSUS IN FEBRUARY.
IF WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, I ASK THAT WE DO IT IN THE MOST FORMAL MATTER POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN -- WE NEED TO HAVE A VOTE THIS TIME AND THE ISSUE LAST FEBRUARY THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A FORMAL VOTE AND THE REASON WHY WE ARE BACK HERE NOW AND WE NEED TO FORMALLY EN HABIT THIS PLAN. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS PLAN ONCE AGAIN FOR A FORMAL VOTE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD OR NOT. THAT IS MY TWO CENTS ON THAT.
>> MY RECOLLECTION OF THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT WE IN CONCEPT APPROVE THIS, AND CAREFUL CITY MANAGER, I DON'T WANT TO SHOOT YOU IN THE EYE. AND IN CONCEPT APPROVED THIS FOOTPRINT, BUT WE DID NOT APPROVE WAS THIS COMMERCIAL RIGHT THERE AND THE AMPHITHEATRE THERE.
WE DID NOT APPROVE THE RO ROUNDABOUT ITEM.
AND THIS IS WHAT TO BE DECIDED. THESE ELEMENTS AS LONG AS LATER ON THE NEXT MEETING THE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD.
SO, WHAT ARE -- WHAT OUR NEXT STEP IS TO PUT THE SURVEY TOGETHER AND CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU UPDATE US ON THAT?
>> SURE, LET ME TAKE A FIRST STEP BACK AND REVIEW THE SU SURVEYS THAT YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT.
THE CITY EMBARKED ON WHAT WAS CALLED THE NATIONAL COMMUNITY SURVEY IN 2013, A BENCHMARK SURVEY CONDUCTED BY THE NATIONAL RESEARCH CENTER AND SENT OUT 1,000 SURVEYS.
IT WAS VALIDATED THROUGH MAILING ADDRESSES AND RESTRICTED TO CITY RESIDENTS THAT HAD A USPS MAILING ADDRESS. A RESPONSE RATE OF 300 OR ROUGHLY 30%. ON THAT SURVEY, WE DID HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AS VICE-MAYOR KREGER REFERRED TO AS WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPED ON THE WATERFRONT AND ONE THING COULD YOU SEE ON WATERFRONT, WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER? THE ONLY TWO QUESTIONS ON THE 2017 ITERATION. WE REPEATED THAT SURVEY IN 2 2019. THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS ON THAT SURVEY RELATED TO THE WA WATERSFRONT.
THAT WAS RELATED TO -- QUESTIONS ABOUT BEACH PARKING AND I BELIEVE A FEW OTHER ISSUES.
WE ARE NOW -- AT YOUR LAST MEETING, YOU APPROVED MOVING FORWARD WITH ANOTHER ITERATION OF THE NATIONAL COMMUNITY SURVEY. BASED UPON MY DISCUSSION WITH THE SURVEY FIRM. THE INTENT WOULD BE TO CONDUCT THAT BENCHMARK SURVEY THROUGH LATE NOVEMBER AND EARLY DECEMBER. TRY TO SQUEEZE IT IN BETWEEN THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS. THROUGH THE SURVEY WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF CRAFTING NEW SURVEYS AND POLLS.
DO AS MANY ARIZONA MUCH AS WE WANT.
A 800-PAGE SURVEY EVERY DAY. THEY SAID YES.
AND STRONGLY DISCOURAGED IT. THEY SAID TWO A MONTH WOULD BE THE MOST THEY RECOMMENDED. OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WHILE THE NATIONAL CITIZEN SURVEY IS PREPARED AND DISSEMINATED, WE WILL PREPARE QUESTIONS WITH YOUR ASSISTANCE THAT SPECIFICALLY ORIENTED WITH THE WATERFRONT MUCH LIKE THE SURVEY THAT MARQUIS AND LATTIMER.
IN PLAN CONCEPT E WAS OUT THERE AND EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD COULD RESPOND TO THE SURVEY AND AS COMMISSIONER STURGES SAID WE
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HAD 200 PEOPLE. WARMLY WELL RECEIVED BY THE 170 PEOPLE TOOK THE SURVEY. AS PART OF THE NEW SURVEY TOOL, WE CAN REPOST THIS SURVEY OR THIS SKETCH AND ASK THE SAME TYPE OF QUESTIONS. MOST LIKELY ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE NATIONAL COMMUNITY SURVEY, WE WILL PUT THE WATERFRONT QUESTIONS OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND WE CAN, AGAIN, TARGET WHAT WE DO AND WHAT THE SURVEY FIRM DOES, TRACK VOTER REGISTRATION.YOU CAN ALSO OPEN IT UP TO EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD, BUT YOU CAN FILTER OUT THE RESULTS. SOMEBODY THAT IS NOT A REGISTERED VOTER IN FERNANDINA BEACH CAN MAKE THEIR OPINIONS KNOWN. IF YOU WANT TO SEGREGATE OPINIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE REGISTERED VOTERS, YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND CAPABLE THROUGH THE SURVEY TOOL AND ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS AND WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU WANT.
WHATEVER QUESTIONS WE FIRST BRING THEM TO YOU AND MAKE SURE WE ARE ASKING THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT ANSWER FOR.
WE TEND TO SOMEHOW GET THOSE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IN JANUARY
OR FEBRUARY. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: VICE
VICE-MAYOR? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER: WE NEED A VOTE ON IT. AND WE DID NOT VOTE ON IT, WHATEVER THEIR RESULT IS, SO WE NEED TO MAKE IT, IN MY.
>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THE OTHER FLY IN THE OINTMENT, COMMISSIONERS, YOU CAN ASK FOLKS DO YOU WANT AN AMPHITHEATRE. WELL, THE INTERPRETATION OF THE AM FEE THEATRE IS BROAD. YOU CAN HAVE A PERFORMING MUSIC SHOW LIKE ST. MARY'S WHICH IS MODEST AND CITY MANAGER AND PEOPLE WHO APPROACHED HIM HAVE ONE PERSON -- A 20 X 24-FOOT STAGE AND DRESSING ROOMS AND AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE WHICH IS NOT MY IDEA OF AN AMPHITHEATRE. THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING, UNLESS YOU CAN DRILL DOWN SOMEHOW A LOT OF THESE THINGS.
VERY BROAD AND VERY GENERAL. THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAIL AND THE CHALLENGE OF THE SURVEY. ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS, I AGREE PARKS AND REC SITTING IN THEIR MEETINGS THEY WERE GETTING POOR RESPONSE TO THEIR SURVEY, AND THEY WENT OUT AND WORKED IT. THEY PERSONALLY WENT OUT.
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE I THINK OUR JOB AS WELL IF WE DO THIS SURVEY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT AND WORK PARTICIPATION AND WE SHOULD HAVE CARDS MADE OUT WITH A SURVEY ADDRESS AND PEOPLE SHOULD PARTICIPATE. COMMISSIONER ROSS.
>> RONALD ROSS: IT IS INTERESTING.
GIVE YOU A SNEAK PREVIEW OF THE PARKS AND REC.
PEOPLE WANT OPEN SPACE AND LEAVE IT WHAT IT IS AND WANT WALKING AND BIKE -- TRAILS THAT NONE OF THINGS THAT SHOW UP.
BUT A MORE FULLER ANSWER. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS? MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT WE DELAY THE WATERPARK SURVEY.
AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE INVERSED.
I THINK THE WATERFRONT PARK IS PRESSING AND URGENT AND WE NEED TO DO THIS FIRST SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG ON THIS LET'S DO -- I WON'T CALL IT SIMPLER, BUT THE LESS COMPLEX WATERFRONT PARK SURVEY FIRST AND THEN FOLLOW IT UP WITH THE CITIZEN SURVEY.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT, YES. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: ALL RIGHT,
[3.3 NASSAU TERMINALS - CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN PROPOSAL]
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ITEM 3.3, NASSAU TERMINAL CAPTIAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN PROPOSAL.THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER ROSS.
COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR.
>> RONALD ROSS: CAN YOU PUT UP THE TWO SLIDES -- OR AT LEAST ONE OF THEM. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE PORT HAS AN OPERATE AGREEMENT WITH THE PORT OPERATOR AND SECTION 6.9 OF THAT REQUIRES A CAPTIAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN EVERY YEAR THAT THE PART OR PORT OPERATOR SUPPOSED TO COME TOGETHER.
IT TURNS OUT PRIOR TO THIS THROUGH A REQUEST FOR PUBLIC DOCUMENTS THAT NO PLAN HAD EVER REALLY DONE.
AND NOW THE PORT OPERATOR HAS PROPOSED A PLAN THAT YOU HAVE A COPY OF IN YOUR PACKET. I WANTED TO POINT OUT A FEW ITEMS IN HERE. AND I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE GOOD. I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE BAD.
I AM JUST TELLING THAT YOU THEY WILL IMPACT THE CITY.
ONE OF THEM -- THIS IS THEIR WORLDWIDE TERMINAL CAPTIAL
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IMPROVEMENT PLAN PROJECTS. AND ONE OF THE PROJECTS IS ON NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS TO EXPAND THE GATE COMPLEX.THAT WAS -- WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE AND HOW THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT THE CITY AND SO ON.
THE SECOND THING IS TO PUT A SECOND INGRESS AND EGRESS WAY IN AND WAY OUT FROM THE PORT OFF OF ESCAMBIA STREET.
THAT IS ONE OF THEIR PROPOSALS. HUE THANK WILL WORK OUT.
WE NEED TO BE AWARE THAT IS ONE OF THEIR PROPOSALS.
IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THEY ARE PROPOSING AND ALL ETERRIBLE THINGS THAT WILL HAVE EFFECT ON THE CITY. THEY ALSO PROPOSED TO -- LOOKING AND READING THEIR PLAN, PURCHASED THIS RIGHT HERE AND PURCHASES. AND EXPAND THEIR THIS WAY AND BUY MORE LAND HERE THOSE ARE THE ISSUES WITH THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE CITY AND WANTED TO BRING THOSE TO YOUR ATTENTION. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION VERSE NOT AGREED TO THIS AND HOPEFULLY THEY AND THE PORT OPERATOR HAS A MEETING AND THEY WILL COME UP WITH WHAT THEIR PLAN IS AND HOPE THAT THEY WILL LET US KNOW WHAT THAT MEETING IS AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
AND THIS IS JUST AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM AND YOU HAVE
THE LETTER. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: ANY COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS? NO? OKAY. ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR THE W WORKSHOP? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 6:00 --
>> ONE REQUEST. THE CRA MEETING AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THAT?
JUST SO I CAN PREPARE? >> YOU SERVE AS THE CITY COMMISSION AND ALSO SERVE AS MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF THE CRA, AND NOW THAT WE ARE STARTING TO GENERATE INCOME WITHIN THE CRA FOR THOSE UNFAMILIAR, COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. A SUBSET OF DOWNTOWN IN VERY GENERAL TERMS. IT IS A TAXING DISTRICT.
IT DOES NOT INCREASE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY TAXES WHICH IS A COMMON MISPERCEPTION THAT CREATING A CRA RAISES PEOPLE'S TAXES THAT IS A FALSEHOOD. THE CRA REALLOCATED TAXES THAT WILL OTHERWISE BE LEVIED ON THE PROPERTY.
AS PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED IN THE CRA, MOST NOTABLY THE TOWNHOUSES ADJACENT TO CITY HALL, THERE IS MONEY COMING INTO THE CRA WHICH IS NEW TO THE CITY, THE CRA IS NOT IN THE PAST HAD SUFFICIENT INCOME IN THE AREA.
WHAT THE CRA REVENUES ARE PROPOSED FOR WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET IS THAT WILL PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION -- WILL PROVIDE DEBT SERVICE FOR THE DEBT THAT CITY WILL LIKELY HAVE WHEN WE REOPEN ALACHUA STREET.
TALKING OF THE CRA PLAN. IT IS SOMEWHAT DATED.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN DOING MANY OF THE THINGS IF NOT CURRENTLY IN THE CRA PLAN AND A CHANCE TO REVISIT THAT PLAN AND TALK OF THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO WITH THE CRA.
PEOPLE THAT TALKED OF EXPANDING THE CRA.
A CHARTER LIMIT ON THE SIZE OF THE CRA.
WILL OFFER MORE TECHNICAL OR LEGAL INSIGHT IF YOU WANTED TO EXTEND THE CRA, WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL THAT.
NOW THAT MONEY IS COMING INTO THE CRA TO HAVE A QUARTERLY WORKSHOP DEDICATING TO YOU SITTING AT THE CRA BOARD.
>> MY REQUEST IS, WHO WILL SET THE AGENDA AND WHAT WILL BE ON
AGENDA. >> WE WILL WORK ON AGENDA AND IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC ISSUES, LET US KNOW AND WE WILL ADD IT TO THE AGENDA
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