[3.1 CITY HALL - This item is placed on the agenda at the request of Commissioner Ross.]
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>> AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP AS WE HAVE ALL THE BUILDINGS
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WITHOUT SPRINKLERS. >> LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
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>> YES, BY CODE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT, BUT ISN'T IT THE
RIGHT THING TO DO? >> NOT NECESSARILY, I WOULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU. THE RIGHT THING TO DO B&.
>> THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAS THE MOST PUBLIC B&.
>> MAJOR ASSEMBLIES THERE. I'M JUST SAYING OVERALL, THIS
ISN'T THE ONLY BUILDING. >> AND I DON'T KNOW, IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU, SO, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE DID ANY
PEST CONTROL IN THIS BUILDING? >> LISTEN, WE DO HAVE PEST CONTROL WORK DONE HERE. WE HAVE HAD TERMITE ISSUES FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND WITHOUT TENDING THE BUILDING, WE ARE KIND OF RESTRICTED TO SPOT TREATMENTS.AND IF YOU WANTED TO, WE COULD TOWARD THE BUILDING AND I COULD SHOW YOU THE SPOTS WE HAVE HAD SPOT TREATMENT DONE OVER THE YEARS.
>> WE ALSO HAVE ROACH INFESTATIONS, SIGNING, CERTAINLY, I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE RIGHT AWAY, WHETHER IT IS TIED TO ANY RESERVATION OR NOT, THAT IS A
MAINTENANCE FUNCTION. >> YES, FOR SURE.
ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, WE WERE CLOSE, BUT IT NEVER HAPPENED.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY, VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION AND VERY THOROUGH REPORT.
I'VE JUST GOT A FEW QUESTIONS OF THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT WHEN WE STARTED THE ANALYSIS OF IT.
WHEN WE GOT THE PRESENTATION, I WAS INTERESTED THAT IT WAS CALLED THE PHASE 1 PREDESIGNED REPORT, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THIS REPORT IS ABOUT, WAS THIS MADE AS B& JUST TO EXAMINE HOW COMPETENT OUR CURRENT CITY HALL STRUCTURE WAS HERS THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS SO A NEW CITY HALL? WAS THIS RIDDEN WITH A NEW CITY HALL IN MIND? ALMOST GET TO DESIGN IN CERTAIN PLACES, SO AS THIS MADE WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE ARE GOING AHEAD WITH A CITY HALL?
>> NO, AND WHEN THIS BODY APPROVED OUR INITIAL CONTRACT, LET'S NOT IMPROVE A DESIGN CONTRACT, WHAT ARE OUR NEEDS? AND LET'S ANALYZE WHAT THE CONDITION ARE OUR EXISTING ASSETS ARE TO HELP US MEET THOSE NEEDS, IF THE DESIGN PROJECT WERE TO COME ABOUT. AND SO, IF YOU DECIDED THAT YOU WANTED TO CONSOLIDATE CITY GOVERNMENT BUILDING AND HE WOULD BE 24,000 SQUARE FEET, SO HOW WOULD THE ASSET OF THIS PROPERTY AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, HOW COULD IT ADDRESS
THOSE SPACE NEEDS? >> THANK YOU.
>> WHAT IS YOUR FIRST NAME? >> JODY.
>> SO YOU ARE SAYING 24,000 SQUARE FEET WOULD BE OUR FUTURE NEEDS IF WE WERE LIKE A WISH LIST OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENT SAID AND WHAT YOUR INFORMATION WAS AFTER YOUR SURVEY OR
REPORT? >> WHAT ARE THE CURRENT SPACES THAT WE HAVE NOW IN SQUARE FOOTAGE?
>> YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
SO, YES, THERE WAS A BIT OF FUTURE NEED BILL INTO EACH ONE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS, THINKING ABOUT FUTURE STAFF MEMBERS, THE PROCESSES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM AND DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE, SO THAT IS BUILT INTO THE SPACE NEEDS PROTECTION. I WOULD SAY, AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS RELATIVELY CONSERVATIVE.
WE DIDN'T HEAR A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS SAY WE NEED TO DOUBLE THE SIZE OF OUR STAFF, WE NEED SIGNIFICANTLY MORE SPACE THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE. IT WAS REAL MORE ABOUT IS THE SPACE DESIGNED TO DO WHAT THEY NEED IT TO DO NOW.
IN MOST INSTANCES, PARTICULARLY AT THE.
>> CENTER, IT'S SORT OF FOUND SPACE.
THE CITY GOVERNMENT IS DOING A GOOD JOB OF JUST USING THE SPACES IT IS TO HOUSE STAFF MEMBERS.
>> AND JODI, SO HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS DID YOU ENCOMPASS IN THIS WESTMARK BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT IS AT PACK, EVERYTHING THAT IS HERE, OR WHAT DID YOU ENCOMPASS?
>> YEAH, SO EVERYTHING THAT IS CURRENTLY HERE, SO, THAT WOULD BE THE COMMISSION, THE MANAGER, THE CLERK, WE ENCOMPASS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS OVER AT PACK CURRENTLY.
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THE UTILITY BILLING DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS AT THEIR OWN DEDICATED SITE.HUMAN RESOURCES, WHICH IS HERE, I BELIEVE, PART OF UPSTAIRS. THE IT DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS AT PACK. THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS AT PACK. THE PLANNING AND BUILDINGDEPARTMENTS, WHICH ARE HERE. >> OKAY, SO THAT'S ALMOST ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, OTHER THAN PARKS AND REC, AND MAINTENANCE FACILITIES, SO, I STILL GO BACK TO MY IDEA.
AND JODI, YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS, BUT THERE IS AN $18 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR SALE RIGHT NOW, SO I STILL BELIEVE THAT 18,000 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING COULD BE RENOVATED IN MOST OF THE WORKING GROUP OF OUR COMMISSION CAN WORK OUT OF THAT BUILDING. AND I DID HEAR TALK ABOUT LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED, THE CITY ENGINEER WAS GOING TO CHECK IT OUT AND SEE IF IT WAS VIABLE, BUT I WILL WAIT TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT, SO BASICALLY, YOU HAVE ENCOMPASSED ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS, MINUS PARKS AND REC AND FACILITIES MAINTENANCE.
>> THAT IS CORRECT, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT.
>> OKAY, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A GRASP OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU.
>> YES, SIR. >> MR. GEORGE, DID YOU INSPECT THE 18,000 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING? AND IF SO, WHAT WAS YOUR ASSESSMENT?
>> THE BUILDING RIGHT OVER THERE? YES, I DID, I DID A QUICK WALK-THROUGH WITH THE TENANT AND THE REALTOR THAT IS HANDLING IT, UM, THE BUILDING, THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING IS IN REALLY POOR CONDITION.
UM, IT WOULD NEED TO BE BASICALLY GUTTED COMPLETELY ON THE INSIDE TO CREATE A COMMERCIAL TYPE INSTITUTION OFFICE COMPLEX. UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL CODE ISSUES IN THERE. IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP TO LEVEL II. AND THE OUTSIDE SKIN, THE ROOF NEED TO BE REPLACED AND THE OUTSIDE SIDING WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED AND THERE ARE NO WINDOWS.
THE BATHROOMS DON'T BE ANY KIND OF CAPACITY REQUIREMENT FOR A BUILDING THAT SIZE.THERE'S BASICALLY TWO SINGLE TOILET BATHROOMS IN THERE.O, IT WOULD BE B& FOR THE MILLION OR WHATEVER THE COSTB& JUST BUYING IT, PROBABLY GOING TO SPEND AT
LEAST A MILLION TO RENOVATE IT. >> THANK YOU, SIR, VICE MAYOR,
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> VICE MAYOR LEN KREGER: YES, I'M GOING TO BACK UPAND TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. CAN WE PUT UP THE FIRST SLIDE ?
>> OH. I THOUGHT THAT WE AS A COMMISSION PREFERRED THE PLANNING ON THE CITY HALL, THE NEW CITY HALL, WHATEVER THE CONCEPT MIGHT HAVE BEEN.
AND I THINK THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HISTORICAL ISSUES THAT WERE INVOLVED.I THOUGHT WE PUSHED THAT OUT OF THE BUDGET. POSTED THAT OUT OF THE BONDING.
THIS GUY IS THE PROBLEM. IF THAT IS THE PROBLEM, THEN WE NEED TO ATTEND TO THIS PLACE AND TAKE CARE OF THAT PROBLEM.
I AM CONCERNED, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AT COST AND DIRECTION OF THE CITY MANAGER, THAT WE STILL HAVEN'T GOT THE ASSESSMENT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA OF OUR OTHER BUILDINGS. BUILDING ASSESSMENT UNDER
TONIGHT? >> I BELIEVE IT IS ON NEXT
WEEK. >> OKAY, SO BEFORE WE DO ANY OF THIS STUFF, AND NOW I AM HEARING THAT ATLANTIC CENTER IS
>> EIGHT. SO, I AM NOT OPPOSED TO MOVING FORWARD, BUT LET'S FIND OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A CITY, WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF B& SO, LET'S GET IT ALL TOGETHER AND DO THE RIGHT STUFF, IS ALL I WOULD SAY.
IF, YOU KNOW, I THINK SPRINKLERS ARE PROBABLY, CERTAINLY JUST AS IMPORTANT IN OUR ASSEMBLY AREAS AS THEY ARE IN THIS BUILDING. WE GET MANY MORE PEOPLE IN THE ATLANTIC CENTER ON A REGULAR BASIS.UM, JUST A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE OF SUBSTANDARD ELECTRICITY, THINK WE HAVE TO FIX THAT. I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK IT SAID THERE WAS A SMALL AMOUNT.UT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A WHOLE CITY, WHICH IMPACTS , REALLY IN FACT, OUR IMPROVEMENT PLAN DID NOT INCLUDEB I HAD ASSUMED INITIALLY THAT OUR BUILDINGS ARE FAIRLY SIMPLE, THEY ARE NOT REAL COMPLEX BUILDINGS IN TERMS OF HP HC AND ISSUES, UM, THAT WE WOULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT COST, BUT IF WE HAVE EIGHT INCHES DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE BEFORE WE ATTEMPT TO TEST THE CITY MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE CITY HALL ISSUE.
PROVIDING IT IS SAFE. AND I AGREE A LITTLE BIT WITH
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DAVID, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET THOSE NUMBERS.IT'S THE SAME NUMBER, IT MAKES NO SENSE.
I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE ANYBODY ANYWHERE.
WE FUNCTION RIGHT NOW AS A CITY.
THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO PLAN. WE CAN TALK ABOUT A BONDING ISSUE AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO PUT ON THERE.
>> UM, ALL VERY VALID POINTS. UM, BUT WHAT I WAS HOPING WAS THAT FOR $10,000 OR LESS, CITY MANAGER, I THINK EVERYBODY THINKS THIS IS A HISTORIC BUILDING THAT SHOULD BE PRESERVED. I MEAN, IN REALITY, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE LONG, HARD WORK OF THIS BUILDING, HE WOULD NOT GET DOWN AND START WORKING. SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE AGAINST THAT, ONE BEING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT SAYS THE DHC HAS TO APPROVE OF TAKING IT DOWN, SOB& SO, WHAT I WAS HOPING IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE CITY MANAGER, WITH SOME ALTERNATIVES, ONE OF THEM BEING LOOKING AT THE WAREHOUSE.
PEOPLE THOUGHT LOOKING AT THE TECH CENTER THING, THE HANDOUTS THAT I HANDED OUT PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE OF LEAVING THE PEOPLE WITH PACK AND BUILDING A SMALLER BUILDING NEXT DOOR. AND NOT ONLY LOOKING AT THE OPTIONS WITH SOME ELEVATION DRAWINGS, BUT HOW YOU WOULD PAY FOR THAT. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAID, WAS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT CITY HALL ON THE BOND. AND THAT IS B& THE MATERIAL THA WAS PRESENTED PRIORTO THE MEETING, THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE THERE TO BUILD A MUCH SMALLER BUILDING NEXT DOOR, SIMPLY OUT OF IMPACT . IN REALITY, YOU COULD PROBABLY START CONSTRUCTION ON THE YEAR FROM NOW.
AND THE MONEY IS ALREADY IN THE BANK.
LOOK AT IT. AND THEN GOING TO DO THIS.
SO, I WAS JUST HOPING THAT, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE, THE BUILDING NEEDS HELP. AND WHAT WE ARE REGRESSING IS WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST AND MORE PORTLY, HOW WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. AND SO, MOVE FORWARD AND SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, LESS THAN $10,000, AND GET THEM TO GIVE US SOME CONCEPTS OF THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH AND HAVE THE CITY MANAGER, WITH SOME OPTIONS AS TO HOW HE WOULD PAY FOR THAT.
THAT WAS MY HOPE. WONDERED HOW YOU ALL FELT ABOUT
>> VICE MAYOR LEN KREGER: YEAH, I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THAT ATALL, MOVE FORWARD WITH A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND I THINK THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET IS PROBABLY , IT IS EQUAL, BUT IT MAY NOT BE EQUAL IN TERMS OF THE FINANCES AVAILABLE TO DO IT. YOU KNOW, A RENOVATION ACROSS THE STREET, BASICALLY IS NEW CONSTRUCTION DUE TO GROWTH.
SO, IT'S A GOOD POINT. SO, I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED AT ALL TO MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING, $10,000, COME UP WITH SOME OPTIONS. FUNDING IS KEY AND IF WE CAN USE FUNDS, THAT'S EVEN MORE KEY.
>> COMMISSIONER STURGIS? >> COMMISSIONER DAVID STURGES: THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF MOVING FORWARD WITH DIFFERENT OPTIONS, I REALLY LIKE THE WAREHOUSE IDEA. I KNOW I HAVE GOT A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM SOME DIFFERENT PEOPLE, BUT ANYTIME WE CAN ACQUIRE A BIGGER FOOTPRINT FOR THE FUTURE AND WE BOUGHT THAT AND THIS IS CRAZY AND IF WE BOUGHT IT AND LEVELED IT AND MADE IT PARKING TEMPORARILY AND DID SOMETHING ELSE LIKE BUILD A SMALLER BUILDING OVER THERE, WE STILL WOULD BE FARTHER AHEAD THAN WE ARE CURRENTLY. AND MY FEELING, AS A CITY WITH REAL ESTATE, BECAUSE THAT SPACE WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET LATER.
SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BUY IT, THEY ARE GOING TO HOLD ONTO IT, AND YOU CAN COUNT ON IT, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE , UM, AVAILABLE. SO, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SAID THIS MULTIPLE TIMES AND I'M GOING TO GO BACK, THAT WE MISSED OUT ON THE OPPORTUNITY FOR $1 MILLION BOND, BUT THAT WAS PRIOR COMMISSIONS AND NOT US.
AND I WOULD HAVE VOTED IN A HEARTBEAT TO BUY IT AND EVEN IF YOU MADE IT PARKING, YOU HAD THE PROPERTY AVAILABLE.O, I THINK THAT IS A NO-BRAINER AS A REAL ESTATE PERSON WHO DOES REAL ESTATE ALL THE TIME, I THINK THAT IS A NO-BRAINER.
BUT I DO THINK THAT LIFE SAFETY ISSUES IS OUR BIGGEST ISSUE AND
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CHIP BRINGING IT TO THE FOREFRONT IS VERY IMPORTANT.YES, THE BUILDING IS IN BAD SHAPE.
WE DO NEED THE TENANT, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TEMPORARILY TO TENANT OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO ASSESS THE AND REALLY BE ALL OVER IT, BECAUSE THESE ARE OUR EMPLOYEES, THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE SEE AND IT IS REALLY WHAT ARE CITY SHOWS OR DOESN'T SHOW WITH PEOPLE COMING IN AND THEY COME INTO OUR CHAMBERS. THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT OUR FACILITIES ARE WE WANT THEM TO BE THE BEST, SO OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO IMPROVE IT WE NEED TO WORK ON IT, SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF GOING AHEAD WITH A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO COME UP WITH DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND DIFFERENT APPROACHES AND FIND OUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT APPROACH. THANK YOU.
>> COMMISSIONER BEING? >> COMMISSIONER BRADLEY BEAN: THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM CERTAINLY NOT OPPOSED TO COMMISSIONER TRAN CHOOSE IDEA, THE PROPERTY BEHIND US, THERE IS A MYRIAD OF USES FOR THAT LOCATION, SUCH AS PARKING SUCH AS MAY BE OFFICES, BUT COMMISSIONER, I CAN SEE THE FUTURE HERE, I CAN SEE THE FUTURE AND THE FUTURE SAYS THAT IF WE EXTEND THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY ON A CONSULTANT, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE REPORT IS GOING TO SAY BEFORE COMES BACK IN THE REPORT IS GOING TO STRONGLY RECOMMEND SPENDING MONEY.
THE DO-NOTHING OPTION WILL NOT BE THE RECOMMENDED OPTION.T WILL SIMPLY NOT BE. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS REPORT, UM, IT HAS A LOT OF ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE CONSULTANTS WE PAID IN THE PAST, WE ARE NOT PAYING THEM TO TELL US TO DO NOTHING. WE ARE GOING TO BE PLAYING, THE LIST OF OPTIONS WE RECEIVE WILL ALL BE ABOUT WHAT AND HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE GOING TO BE SPENDING ON THIS ISSUE.
AND IF WE DO IT, THE QUESTION WON'T BE ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT OR NOT, THE QUESTION WILL BE WHICH ONE GOING TO BE SPENDING ON? THE REASON I AM OPPOSED, BECAUSE I AM HAPPY WITH THE STATUS QUO OF OUR CURRENT CITY HALL, I AMCERTAINLY, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, IN FAVOR OF KEEPING CITY HALL DOWNTOWN , WHERE I BELIEVE THE PEOPLE ARE.
BUT I AM CURRENTLY HAPPY WITH OUR STATUS QUO AND WOULD LIKE TO SAY THEY DO NOT THING OPTION WILL BE REPRESENTED AND I WILL
BE THE REPRESENTATION OF IT. >> ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I CHIME
IN? >>? MAKE ONE OF THE OPTIONS ON SPENDING A LITTLE MONEY THE DO-NOTHING OPTION AND WHAT DO WE COST TO DO NOTHING BECAUSE THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE ELEVATOR, BY THE WAY, NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, BECAUSE IT IS AT THE END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE.
AND THOSE POLES OUT THERE, BY THE WAY, ARE ALL RUSTED OUT AND NEED TO BE FIXED AND THE WALL OVER THERE, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO, EVEN IF YOU WANT TO DO THE DO-NOTHING OPTION, THERE IS AN EXPENSE TO THE DO-NOTHING OPTION. SO, IF THAT CAN BE ONE OF THE OPTIONS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> OKAY, THE DO-NOTHING OPTION IS HOW WE GOT HERE.WE DID NOTHING FOR YEARS. AND NOW, WE ARE FACED WITH A REPORT, YOU HIRE A CONSULTANT AND THEY ARE GOING TO SAY YOU NEED TO SPEND MONEY, SO YOU ARE RIGHT IN THAT.
AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING BUILDING A NEW CITY HALL, BUT WHAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT IS THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, THE PATCHWORK, THE AGE OF THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM THAT IS NOT UNIFORM, IT DOESN'T MATCH. I AM NOT EVEN SURE IT IS UP TO CODE. COMBINE THAT WITH THE LACK OF ANY FIRE SAFETY, SO YOU HAVE A REALLY BAD ELECTRICAL SYSTEM WITH NO FIRE SAFETY. THAT IS AN EQUATION FOR DISASTER. SO, IN MY MIND, THE VERY LEAST, IF WE WANT TO CONSIDER THE LIFE SAFETY OF OUR EMPLOYEES, IS TO HAVE A PRIORITY OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THIS BUILDING AND COST, AND THEN PROCEED FROM THERE.
AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND IT? OKAY? BUT MAKE THE BUILDING LAST.
DOING NOTHING WILL NOT MAKE THIS BUILDING LAST, DOING NOTHING MAKES THIS BUILDING UNSAFE, INCREMENTALLY DAY BY DAY. AND I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THAT IS A RESPONSIBLE ACTION.
>> THAT IS MY TWO CENTS. VICE MAYOR?>> VICE MAYOR LEN KREGER: MANY THINK THIS BUILDING IS UNSAFE, WE'VE GOT A BIG PROBLEM ON OUR HANDS. IF WE MAKE THESE CHANGES, THERE MAY BE SOME OLDER EQUIPMENT, BUT IF THIS BUILDING IS UNSAFE,
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WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS SAIDTHAT IT'S UNSAFE. >> IF WE ARE MAINTAINING OUR BUILDINGS AND WE ARE NOT MAINTAINING THEM ACCORDING TO CODE AND SAFETY AND SAFETY ISSUES AND NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION CODES, WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE.
AND I DON'T THINK WE ARE THERE. >> WILL, IN MY MIND, HOW DO YOU PREDICT A SPARK? HOW DO YOU PREDICT ANYTHING SPARKING? AT ANY MOMENT?
RIGHT? >> I'M JUST MAKING THE CASE
SO, CAN WE HAVE CONSENSUS ABOU , AT THE VERY LEAST, DETERMINING A PRIORITY OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THIS BUILDING? WITH AN ASSOCIATED COST, SO
THAT WE CAN THEN ADDRESS IT? >> AND TO ADD TO THAT, WHAT THE
OTHER OPTIONS MIGHT BE. >> YES, SIR.
CAN WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT? >> 90 DAYS?
>> 90 DAYS? >> GOOD, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
>> OKAY, ALL RIGHT, ARE WE COMPLETE?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE COMPLETE.
[LAUGHING] >> COMPLETE ON THIS TOPIC.
>> I THINK WE CAN MOVE ALONG FROM HERE.
JUST TO RECAP, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGERS LOOK AT SOME OPTIONS, WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO MAKE THIS BUILDING WORKABLE AND PERHAPS AS PART OF THOSE OPTIONS, SOME ELEVATION
DRAWINGS ON SOME VENUES? >> AND THOSE OPTIONS PRIORITIZE. YES, SIR.
[3.2 REMOTE/VIRTUAL MEETING PARTICIPATION - This item is placed on the agenda at the request of Mayor Lednovich.]
>> A SMORGASBORD. >> YES, SIR.
ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON, ITEM 3.2, REMOVE VIRTUAL MEETING PARTICIPATION. UM, LIKE MOST OF US, I AM OUT AND ABOUT AMONG THE CITIZENS OF FERNANDINA AND WHEN I GET FOUR DIFFERENT INQUIRIES ABOUT THE SUBJECT, I FEEL I SHOULD BRING IT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, AND SO, UM, AS YOU ARE AWARE OR NOT AWARE, THE COUNTY HAS A ZOOM OPTION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, AT THE LAST COUNTY MEETING, I WATCHED, IT WASN'T USED, BUT THE OPTION IS THERE. AND SO, THE CONSTITUENTS IN WHICH I SPOKE WITH CAST, WHY DOESN'T THE CITY, GIVEN THE RECENT COVID SPIKE, WHY DON'T WE OFFER ZOOM OPTION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE FEARFUL TO SIT IN THIS ROOM? SO, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BRING THIS TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND GET APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF ADDING A ZOOM AVAILABILITY,
ONLY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> BEFORE WE B&.
>> YES, SIR? >> BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT IS GOING TO COST.
>> VICE MAYOR, THEN COMMISSIONER.
>> VICE MAYOR LEN KREGER: THE COUNTY ALSO HAS, YOU CAN ZOOM
OR YOU CAN TELEPHONE. >> CORRECT, SO, I THINK CONSIDERING WHERE WE ARE AT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE FOR OUR CITIZENS.
>> COMMISSIONER BEAN? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ZOOM COST IS. TELEPHONE COSTS ARE REALLY NOTHING. PEOPLE CAN'T CALL IN ON THE PHONE, THAT IS A NO COST ISSUE BASICALLY.
>> COMMISSIONER BEAN? >> COMMISSIONER BRADLEY BEAN: IN ADDITION TO CAUSE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW DIFFICULT OR WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN OUR JOINT MEETING, WE HAVE ALL WITNESSED THAT PROCESS IN THE COUNTY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN OUR CHAMBERS.
WE DON'T HAVE AS NICE OF AN IT SET UP AS THE COUNTY DOESN'T WE DON'T HAVE AS NICE OF TELEVISIONS.
HOW NICE THEIR TVS WERE IN THERE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE DIFFICULTY ASSOCIATED WITH IT
FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. >> ,HAVE THE CITY MANAGER HAVE
THE IT DEPARTMENT EXPLORE THIS? >> SURE.
ANY OTHER, UM, DISCUSSION ON THIS? NO? OKAY.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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