Aug 03, 2021 Workshop

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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2021 CITY COMMISSION WORK SHOP. MADAM CLERK.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: HERE. >> LEN KREGER: HERE.

>> BRADLEY BEAN: HERE. >> DAVID STURGES: HERE.

>> RONALD ROSS: HERE. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU.

HOUSEKEEPING. PERSONAL DEVICES.

PLEASE HAVE THEM TURNED OFF OR AIRPLANE MODE FOR OUR MEETING.

THANK YOU. DECORUM.

ALL REMARKS ADDRESSED THROUGH ME.

NO PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE WORKSHOPS.

INTEGRITY AND RESPECT DURING OUR MEETING.

AND COVID-19. IF YOU HEARD VICE-MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER ROSS AND I SPEAKING.

NASSAU COUNTY HAS THE HIGHEST INFECTION RATE IN THE NATION.

NOT THE STATE, THE NATION. SO IF YOU ARE NOT -- IF YOU WERE NOT VACCINATED, I AM NOT ASKING YOU IF YOU ARE OR NOT, BUT MAY WANT TO SOCIAL DISTANCING SINCE YOU ARE IN A CONFINED AREA. A RECOMMENDATION.

SO PLEASE PROTECT YOUR HEALTH. ALL RIGHT, ON TO DISCUSSION.

[3.1. WATERFRONT PROPERTY PARCELS ­ SOUTH OF THE BOAT RAMP. This item is placed on the agenda at the request of Mayor Lednovich.]

SO, CITY MANAGER, IF YOU PUT UP THE CONCEPT FOR ME, PLEASE.

AND IF YOU CAN BLOW UP THAT, THAT WOULD -- THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS THE CONCEPT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PREVIOUS CITY COMMISSION.

AND, ALSO, ENDORSED BY THE CURRENT CITY COMMISSION AT OUR VISIONING SESSION. AS YOU NOTICE THERE IS PROPOSED RETAIL HERE. THERE IS PROPOSED RETAIL HERE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IS THE AMPHITHEATRE PERFORMANCE STAGE THERE. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE -- WE APPROVED THE CONCEPT, BUT WE HAVE NOT APPROVED A PLAN. THOSE ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. AND WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THIS IN FEBRUARY AT A WORKSHOP. AND I WATCHED THE WORKSHOP TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, AND IN THE LAST FIVE MINUTES, I BROUGHT UP EACH OF THESE ELEMENTS FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO MOVING FORWARD. COMMISSIONER ROSS SAID, WHY DON'T WE COMPLETE PHASE 1 AND THEN DECIDE.

OKAY. LET'S COMPLETE PHASE 1 AND THEN DECIDE. AT THE TIME I SAID, YEAH, THAT SOUNDED LIKE A REASONABLE IDEA, EXCEPT FOR THE FOLLOWING -- AND I AM NOT PICKING ON THE CITY MANAGER.

THE CITY MANAGER HEARD US APPROVE THIS.

THE FIVE US THE GAVE THE CITY MANAGER DIRECTION.

DURING THE TIME THE CITY MANAGER HAVE BEEN HEARING PROPOSALS. AND I DID A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FOR ALL E-MAILS FROM THE CITY MANAGER REGARDING WATERFRONT PROPOSALS, VALU VALUATIONS, ETC. FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. YOU KNOW HOW MANY E-MAILS THERE WERE? 2500.

>> 2500? >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: 2500 E-MAILS. THERE WERE SO MANY E-MAILS THAT UNLESS I WANTED TO PAY A HEFTY FEE TO HAVE THESE SORTED OUT, I HAD TO WHITTLE DOWN MY REQUEST. BUT AMONG -- AMONG THE PROPOSALS -- ALL RIGHT, AND THE CITY MANAGER TAKES DIRECTION FROM US. AMONG THE PROPOSALS THAT HAVE COME TO HIM WAS ONE DEVELOPER WANTED TO BUILD FOUR RETAIL BUILDINGS ON THAT WATERFRONT. OKAY.

FOUR. ANOTHER PROPOSAL THAT INCLUDED A TOUR OF THE PROPERTY IS A 4 40-FOOT X 40-FOOT STAGE AM FEE

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AND THEY EVEN HAD AN ONSITE MEETING.

SO WHEN YOU CONSIDER THESE E-MAILS WENT TO EVERY DIRECTOR IN THE CITY EXCEPT WASTEWATER AND STREETS.

SO BUILDING DEPARTMENT, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, CITY ATTORNEY, 2500 E-MAILS. WHILE WE SIT HERE WITH A CONCEPT AND NOT A PLAN, CITY STAFF IS SPENDING TIME ON THIS.

BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT TOLD THEM WHAT WE WANT ON THE WATERFRONT.

SO THAT'S WHY -- THAT'S WHY I AM BRINGING THIS UP.

AT OUR -- AT THE LAST MEETING COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU BROUGHT

THE -- >> RONALD ROSS: I CAN BRING IT BACK. I WILL BRING IT BACK.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: INSTEAD OF KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, LET'S GET SOME CONSENSUS ON WHAT WE WANT TO SEE, AT LEAST FROM THE RETAIL PART ON THE WATERFRONT SO THE CITY MANAGER KNOWS HOW TO SPEND HIS TIME AND THE STAFF KNOW HOW TO SPEND THEIR TIME. BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE ALL THE PROPOSALS IN THE WORLD AND SPEND ALL THIS TIME, AND THEN WE GO, HELL NO, WE DON'T WANT THAT.

SO I AM OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS. AND COMMENTS.

VICE-MAYOR, I SEE YOUR LIGHT ON.

>> LEN KREGER: YES, I SEE IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

THE PROPOSALS WAS PRESENTED TO US. AND I THOUGHT AT THE TIME WE HAD GONE OUT AND SOLICITED A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE DID ANYTHING I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DID WITH THAT BECAUSE WE MADE DECISIONS. WE HAVE APPROVED NONE OF THAT.

WE APPROVED ORIGINALLY THE F FOOTFLINT AND GOES FROM THE 101 NORTH FRONT STREET DOWN TO THE WHOLE THING THAT INCLUDED THE SIMMONS PROPERTY. THEN WE APPROVED SEPARATELY THE SHORELINE SEPARATION THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY SEPARATED FROM THE PARK. WHEN IMMINENT DOMAIN -- AND I BROUGHT THIS UP IN THE MEETING, WHEN EMINENT DOMAIN -- WHEN THE CITY COMMISSION -- WHEN WE DECIDED NOT TO PURSUE EMINENT DOMAIN, THAT SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED THE WHOLE FOOTPRINT OR CONCEPT OF THE PARKS. SO THE EMINENT DOMAIN, THE SIMMONS PROPERTY 101 BUILDING WAS TO BE GREEN SPACED AND I SUGGESTED IT BEFORE. A FAILURE ON OUR PART TO GO BACK AND RETHROUGH. NOW WE HAVE BRETT'S POTENTIALLY INVOLVED. SO WE NEVER APPROVED ANY COMMERCIAL. WE NEVER APPROVED ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT. SO IN MY THOUGHT IS THAT -- THAT WE NEED TO BACK UP AND DETERMINE BASED ON THE REALITY TODAY -- NOW SOME PEOPLE THINK THE SIP MONDAYS PROPERTY WILL ULTIMATELY BE BOUGHT. I AM NOT -- I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE PLANNING ON THAT HAPPENING.

I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND DECIDE WHAT DO WE WANT THERE.

AND I THINK WE NEED CITIZEN INPUT AND WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE CITIZEN INPUT. BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, ABOUT HALF OF THE PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT ANY DEVELOPMENT THERE AND YOU ARE ALL GETTING THE SAME E-MAILS I AM GETTING.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT HAPPENED WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT SESSION AND INCLUDE THE WHOLE WATERFRONT. THE FOOTPRINT CHANGES SIGNIFICANTLY. SO I THINK THE 101 BUILDING OFFERS INTERESTING OPTIONS FOR COMMERCIALIZATION.

THIS IS JUST MY POSITION. BECAUSE IT IS A STAND-ALONE N

NOW. >> CITY MANAGER BRING UP THE THREE PARCEL -- THE OVERLAY. THANK YOU, VICE-MAYOR.

ONE OF -- ONE OF ITEMS I DIDN'T BRING UP WERE THE THREE PAR PARCELS. WE HEARD THE CITY MANAGER TELL NUTS PAST, 28,000 SQUARE FEET, OKAY, ALONG THIS WATERFRONT IN HERE. IS THAT RIGHT?

IS THAT THE TWO PARCELS? >> THE PARCELS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED BY UNDERLYING LOTS 29 AND 30 AND 31.

AND THE LOT TO THE SOUTH OF THAT.

>> WHY DON'T YOU PUT UP -- >> THIS PARCEL HERE AND THIS PARCEL HERE ARE CITY-OWNED. AND I HAVE AN AERIAL TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF REFERENCE BUT EASIER TO SEE THE PARCEL LINES THERE. SO THIS SHOWS -- THIS IS THE ONE PARCEL. THIS IS ATLANTIC SEAFOOD RIGHT THERE. THIS IS ONE LARGE PARCEL.

THIS IS THE SECOND LARGE PARCEL.

WHAT I SECURED WAS I HAD A PROPERTY APPRAISAL DONE TO THEY

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AND A ANOTHER PROPOSAL FOR TWO 14,000-SQUARE-FOOT PARCELS.

IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN A THIRD, HALF OR THE WHOLE THING A PROFESSIONAL APPRAISAL TO SHOW THE LEASE RATE OF THOSE

PARCELS. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: YOU SEE MY POINT. WE PAID MONEY FOR THE APPRAISAL ON PROPERTY WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING IF WE WANT TO LEASE IT OR HAVE A PRIVATE-PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP.

AGAIN WE HAVE A CONCEPT. WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN.

TO ME, THE VERY FIRST STEP IS, HOW MANY PARCELS DO WE WANT COMMERCIAL? HOW MANY PARCELS DO WE WANT PARK. IS THERE A COMBINATION OF THE TWO OF THOSE THINGS? WE HAVE GOT TO -- OUR JOB IS TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER DIRE DIRECTION, OKAY.

THIS IS THE ONE TIME WE ARE TOGETHER THAT WE CAN TALK AND GIVE HIM, COLLECTIVELY, OUR DECISION.

SO HE KNOWS HOW TO GO FORWARD. BECAUSE, AGAIN, 2500 E-MAILS.

HE IS SPENDING A LOT OF TIMES ON THIS.

SO LET'S, PLEASE, TRY TO GET CONSENSUS ON THE DIRECTION.

>> MR. MAYOR. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: YES, SIR.

>> CAN I AFTER A BIT OF A CONTEXT.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: ABSO ABSOLUTELY.

>> WHAT IS DRIVING STAFF AND PRIMARILY MOST OF MY EFFORTS IF WE GO BACK TO THE SOUTHERN COMPONENT, IS THIS COMPONENT WAS FIRST PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION, AS THE MAYOR REFERENCED IN JANUARY OF 2020. THAT WAS THE VISIONING SESSION WHERE WE HAD REPRESENTATIVE FROM MARK WISEN LAT AT THIS MERE. AIRS ASSOCIATE AND PASERO WHO WAS DEALING WITH THE RESILIENCY EFFORT.

EVEN SEVERAL MONTH BEFORE THEN, MARK WISN LAT AT THIS MERE HAD A CHAIRPERSON. PARKS AND REC.

HDC. A STEERING COMMITTEE AND TO THE PROSPECTIVE BOARDS AND SUPPORTING -- FIRST PREFERENCE IS CONCEPT E. HALF OF CONCEPT E.

BECAUSE THE VICE-MAYOR POINTED OUT A NORTHERN COMPONENT.

THE 101. AND WHAT DROVE IT THIS WAS FIRST PRESENTED AND THE VICE-MAYOR IS CORRECT.

IT WAS NOT APPROVED OR VOTED ON BUT ENDORSED WITHOUT OBJECTION AT THE JANUARY 2020 VISIONING SESSION AND AGAIN AT YOUR VISIONING SESSION IN 2021. THAT IS WHY STAFF CONTINUED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ONLY THINGS THAT HAVE SPECIFICALLY BEEN APPROVED THE BOARDWALK, THE RESILIENCY. AND THE INTENT WAS ANY COMPONENTS AFTER THAT OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. THAT IS HOW WE ARE TODAY.

>> BEFORE WE RECOGNIZE THROUGH VICE-MAYOR, YOU MADE NOTE OF THE COMMENTS. AND WE HAVE THE COMMENTS.

WOULD YOU PUT THAT UP FOR REFERENCE?

>> SURE, SOME OF THESE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN NO PUBLIC INPUT.

WELL, WE ACTUALLY DID -- A SUMMARY OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

YOU MENTION MARK WHICH ISEN LATIMER.

IN APRIL 2020, WE HAD ON-SITE PUBLIC CHAR THE RES AND -- CHARETTES AND THAT WAS ON THE BEGINNING OF OUR EFFORTS AND MARK WISEEN LATIMER OF A PUBLIC ONLINE HUB.

IT WAS ADVERTISED IN THE "NEWS LEADER" AND "OPENER" AND CITY WEB SITE AND FACEBOOK. AND UP AND AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC

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SO FOR THE PEOPLE TO SAY THERE WAS NO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, THAT IS WRONG. WE HAD A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE -- YOU COULD HAVE COMMENTED ON IOWA, IDAHO OR INDIA.

YOU COULD HAVE COMMENTED. WIDELY ADVERTISED AND EXPRESSES AND SHOWS GENERAL PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF CONCEPT E. NOT UNANIMOUS SUPPORT.

LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT, BUT WHEN RANKINGS THREE WAS THE HIGHEST RANKING YOU WILL SEE THE THREE IS THE HIGHEST.

2746. THE HIGHEST SUPPORTS THE B BANDSHELL. --

>> ON A SCALE OF FIVE? >> SCALE OF 0-3.

ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS WAS YOU HAD TO LIST YOUR NAME THE 150 PEOPLE TO LEFT THEIR NAME AND COMMENTED ON THE OFFICIAL CITY PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT APP. SO THERE WAS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND, YES, I AM DISAPPOINTED THAN YOU THAT MORE PEOPLE COMMENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT THIS WAS OUR OFFICIAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SITE. AND THAT IS DRIVING CITY STAFF

AND CITY COMMISSION EFFORTS. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. VICE-MAYOR.

>> LEN KREGER: MY POINT IS THAT THINGS CHANGED AND MOVED IMMINENT DOMAIN AND JUST REMOVED SIGNIFICANT GREEN SP SPACE. SO AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT, YOU K KNOW, SOMEHOW IT SHOULD HAVE COME BACK AND MAYBE IT IS US AND WE NEED TO REVIEW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. I AM NOT BUYING THAT SIMMONS WILL SELL THE PROPERTY. IT IS FAR OFF THE TABLE AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED AND A STANDARD ONE ON ONE BUILDING AND PRIVATE PROPERTY. DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT THIS -- DO WE LOOK AT IT AGAIN BEFORE WE COMMERCIALIZE AND -- YOU KNOW, I AM INTERESTED TO SEE PRETTY MUCH WHAT HAD THE COMMUNITY IS -- LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS RELATIVELY SMALL SAMPLE. WE USUALLY GET SMALL SAMPLES FOR EVERYTHING. OUR CHARRETTES HAVE 30 PEOPLE.

AND THE WHOLE FOOTPRINT AND FOR THAT TO NOT RECOGNIZE KNEES HOW IT WILL AFFECT THE REST OF THE PARK IS NOT THE WAY THAT I WILL

DO PLANNING. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: DO YOU

HAVE A PROCESS, VICE-MAYOR? >> LEN KREGER: FIRST THING IS DETERMINE WHAT WE THINK SHOULD BE THERE WITH INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS SO WE CAN DO ONE OF THOSE LITTLE MONKEY THINGS OR WHATEVER THEY DO -- HAVE A CHARRETTE SORT OF THING.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: SURVEY. >> LEN KREGER: I WAS THINKING OF MONKEYS. LET'S SEE WHAT THE INPUT -- THAT IS THE SAME -- THE SAME PROCESS AND DO IT THE SAME, BUT LET THE CITIZENS HAVE INPUT. I MEAN THAT IS A PARK AND THAT IS OPEN SPACE AND WE ACTUALLY BUILT THAT PARK, WE BUILT THOSE SUN SHELTERS CONTRARY -- WE ACTUALLY PUT THOSE IN.

I FORGET WHAT YEAR SO LET'S DECIDE WHERE WE WANT TO GO AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO DOWN THERE. BUT YOU ARE SACRIFICING -- YOU PUT THE SLIDE BACK UP, WITH THE CONCEPT.

SO YOU MAKE A DECISION WHAT YOU WANT TO DO THERE BASED ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GREEN SPACE, THAT EFFECTS YOUR DECISION.

YOU ARE DECIDING HERE WHAT TE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON THIS BEING THERE. THAT IS GONE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> SO A SIGNIFICANT PART OF YOUR PLAN ISN'T THERE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK WHETHER IT IS A WORKSHOP TO START OFF WITH AND SEE HOW TO PROCEED, BUT. I AM CONCERNED OF THE TAIL

WAGGING THE DOG. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU,

MR. BEAN. >> BRADLEY BEAN: THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. MANAGER, THIS IS PHASE ONE OF THE PLAN. THE WHOLE INITIAL THING.

>> INITIAL PHASE ONE. >> BRADLEY BEAN: THIS IMAGE DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS IMMINENT

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DOMAIN? >> CORRECT.

>> BRADLEY BEAN: PHASE ONE WILL BE UNAFFECTED BY THE

EMINENT DOMAIN. >> YOU COULD MAKE THAT CASE.

NOT SPEAKING FOR THE VICE-MAYOR BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT IT FROM THE MACRO LEVEL. YOU ARE RIGHT, THAT IS NOT AFFECTED BY WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.

>> BRADLEY BEAN: YES, SIR. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSION AND WHAT I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY TRULY CARES ABOUT IN THIS PLAN. WHAT DOES OUR COMMUNITY WANT FROM OUR WATERFRONT, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS A PLACE WHERE CITIZENS CAN SEE THE SUNSET.

THEY WANT A PLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN GO, GATHER AND WATCH THE SUNSET. I LIKE THE PHASE ONE OF THIS MAN. THE REASON I DO IS IT RESPECTS OUR HISTORY. BUSINESSES UP AND DOWN THE WATERFRONT. WE ARE A WORKING WATERFRONT.

WE MIST RESPECT THAT. PLAN RESPECTS THE EXISTING BUSINESSES THERE. BAUER-BORNE BUSINESSES OR BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE. WE HAVE A LEASE WITH ATLANTIC SEAFOOD WITH SIX MORE WEEKS ON THE LEASE AND RESPECTS THE HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY. AND PLANS FOR THE FUTURE.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GATHER AND WATCH THE SUNSET. THAT IS WHAT THIS PLAN DOES, NEUTRAL AND RESPECTS OUR HISTORY AND I BELIEVE THIS VISION SHOULD BE OUR PLAN. LET'S CONTINUE TO WORK FOR THIS IN PHASE ONE. AND I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN JOIN ME

ON THAT. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: COMMISSIONER ROSS, LET ME ASK A QUESTION BEFORE I RECOGNIZE Y YOU. CITY MANAGER, YOU SEE HOW THIS BUILDING IS SET BACK? WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY DID THIS, WAS THERE PROPERTY -- A PARCEL FOR THIS?

>> NO, THERE ARE NO PARCELS OTHER THAN THE TWO LARGE PARCELS. NO WORK BY CITY STAFF TO CREATE

THOSE SMALLER PARCELS. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: WHY IS

MARQUEE DRAWN IN THIS LOCATION. >> WHERE THEY PERCEIVE SOME LIMITED COMMERCIAL TO GO ON IN THAT AREA.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: TO COMMISSIONER BEAN'S POINT, SEE OUR PROBLEM IS THIS BUILDING IS GOING UP HERE TO YOUR POINT ABOUT SUNSETS AND THE ABILITY. IF THESE BUILDINGS WERE DOWN ALONG HERE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.

I WILL NOW RECOGNIZE YOU SIR. >> RONALD ROSS: WHAT DID I ALLEGEDLY SAY AT THIS MEETING -- THAT WE SHOULD DO PHASE ONE FIRST AND SEE HOW THINGS DEVELOP?

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: SEAWALL. >> RONALD ROSS: HERE IS THE DEAL. FIRST OF ALL, IT DOESN'T MATTER THREE PARCEL HERE. YOU CAN SUBDIVIDE THIS PARCEL AND PUT A SUBPARCEL WHEREVER YOU WANT.

YOU CAN SLICE AND DICE. THREE UNDERLYING LOTS OF RE RECORD. MOST OF THEM ARE WATER.

YOU CAN SLICE AND DICE THOSE ANYWAY YOU WANT.

AND NOT CONSTRAINED BY THE LOT LINES, THAT IS NUMBER ONE.

BECAUSE YOU ARE GIVING THEM A SUBLEASE ON A PIECE OF PRO PROPERTY. OKAY.

NUMBER TWO -- WELL, LET'S SEE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD IS RIGHT HERE.

SO THE SEAWALL IS GOING TO COME ALONG HERE, COME ALONG HERE AND COME ALONG HERE, AND THAT IS THE IDEA PLACE TO HAVE SUNSETS, RIGHT ALONG HERE. SIT THERE, PUT BENCHES ALONG THAT WALKWAY AND THEY HAVE A GREAT PLACE.

WHAT I HOPE AND WE HAVE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD SITTING RIGHT THERE. AND THIS IS PART OF THIS SPACE -- THIS INITIAL PHASE. THIS -- THE BOARDWALK GOES THROUGH PART OF THAT AND NEEDS TO BE MOVED.

NUMBER TWO FOR US TO DO THE STORMWATER AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS IS ALREADY F FUNDED, YOU HAVE TO GO UNDERNEATH THIS BUILDING AND SO IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED.

SO I HAVE BEEN TO A LOT OF P PARKS AROUND THE WORLD.

SOME OF MY FAVORITE PARTS IN PARIS WHERE THEY HAVE A SMALL LITTLE RESTAURANT, AND THEN THEY HAVE OUTDOOR SEATING ALL AROUND IT. AND IT IS A WONDERFUL PLACE.

SO I WOULD HOPE WITH TRACK S SEAFOOD, IF YOU MOVE IT TO THE SOUTH ATLANTIC SEAFOOD. AND YOU CAN PUT A ROOFTOP DECK ON TOP OF THAT AND THEN HAVE THE OBSERVATION DECK OVER HERE, OVER HERE, AND YOU CAN SEE OUT OVER THE WATER.

NICE SOMETHING TO DRINK, EAT OR WHATEVER.

AND MAYBE THAT IS WHAT -- AND ATLANTIC SEAFOOD WILL COME IN WITH A PROPOSAL AND AN EXISTING BUSINESS.

23U TAKE THIS PARCEL, MOVE IT LITTLE OVER HERE, TUCK IT RIGHT INTO HERE, WHICH YOU CAN DO. AND THEN BUILD ALL THIS OUT, TAKE CARE OF THAT. AND LET'S SEE WHAT DEVELOPS.

THAT IS WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD HOPE.

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I THINK THAT IS SEEING HOW THIS ALL WORKS OUT ALONG HERE.

A NICE PLACE TO WATCH YOUR SUNSET GO DOWN.

NICE PLACE TO PROMENADE, AND YOU HAVE A PLACE HERE.

IF YOU GO AND LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND GOOGLE WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENTS. SAYS CREATE INTERESTING PLACES TO GO. WELL, THIS IS A LITTLE POD RIGHT HERE WHICH CAN BE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD.

SELL LOCALLY CAUGHT SEAFOOD. BAI T STORE, OUTSIDE SEATING AND A DECK OUTSIDE. AND THEN GO FROM THERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I -- WHAT I WOULD MAKE MINE HAPPEN.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, SIR.

VICE-MAYOR. >> LEN KREGER: THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION ON THE CONCEPT OF BASICALLY SHORELINE STABILIZATION HAS ACTUALLY BEEN BID AND APPROVED.

THIS IS ABOUT THE CONCEPT WHAT WE ARE DOING THERE, NOT ABOUT

THE ATLANTIC SEAFOOD LEASE. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THAT IS

GOING TO COME UP. >> LEN KREGER: I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT. THAT COULD BE ANYTHING.

THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT IT TO BE ANYTHING.

WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO BE? DO WE WANT TO COMMERCIALIZE AND HOW MUCH DO WE WANT TO COMMERCIALIZE.

AND WHEN YOU TALK OF THE CONCEPT.

I JUST CANNOT BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN ELIMINATE A WHOLE NORTH END AND IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE PERCEPTION OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO FROM THE SOUTH. THAT'S WHAT I SAID BEFORE.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU. WHAT I AM WAITING FOR IS A PROCESS. WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS NOT HAVE THE CITY MANAGER KIND OF WINDING HIS WAY IN THE DARK SPENDING TIME ON PROPOSALS THAT MAY NEVER BE APPROVED BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEM. SO UNTIL WE DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS PARK OR COMMERCIAL OR A COMBINATION OF THE TWO, IN MY MIND, THE CITY MANAGER SHOULD SPEND ANY TIME NOR SHOULD THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, NOR NEW THE CITY ENGINEER OR STORMWATER AND THEY ARE ALL SUCKED INTO IT. COMMISSIONER STURGES.

>> DAVID STURGES: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU MIKE. WHEN I WENT BACK -- I DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE VISIONING PART BUT BACK IN MY MIND HOW WE GOT TO THIS PROCESS. I REMEMBER COMING TO MEETINGS PRIOR TO MY ELECTION AND ALL THIS WAS IN THE DISCUSSIONS PRIOR TO MY ELECTIONS AND BEING SO I WATCHED A LOT OF THIS TRANSFORM AND I WENT ON THE SURVEY AND I LOOKED IT ALL O OVER. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE TODAY.

I DIDN'T ENTER ANY ANSWERS BUT LOOKED AT THE SURVEY OVER.

AND ULTIMATELY WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION LIKE I STEP OUT THE DOOR TO GO TO WORK EVERY DAY, I MAKE A DECISION WHAT I AM GOING TO DO THAT DAY AND DO IT. I DON'T THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

IT IS GOING DOWN. WE NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION WHAT ELEMENTS WE WANT AND DO IT.

AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT I TH THINK.

AND I THINK THAT IF THE ELEMENT IS CORRECT AND CONCEPT, WE DISCUSSED RETAIL THERE BUT I AM HEARING WHAT LEN SAID WE HAVE CUT THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OFF AND WE STARTED ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE. AND -- AND I AM NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE LEASE. WE WILL GET INTO THAT LATER.

BUT I THINK THE REALITY IS -- IS WE WANT TO PUT THE SEAWALL UP THERE. AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE OVER THERE? HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE OF GREEN SPACE AND HOW MUCH RETAIL AND THAT'S REALLY IT.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> RONALD ROSS: YOU ASKED FOR PROCESS AND I WILL PROPOSE A PROCESS. THE PROCESS IS HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON WHILE BUILDING A SEA SEAWALL, PUTTING THE RESILL LEN CEASE IN. AND -- RESILIENCY IN.

AND ONCE ALL PIECES ARE IN PLACE, BY THE END OF THE YEAR THIS WILL BE BUILT. AND WE CAN SEE WHAT IS THERE.

AND THEN MOVE FORWARD. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH:

COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> BRADLEY BEAN: I SPOKE TO THE FERNANDINA OBSERVER AND IT WAS AN OLD PAPER.

THEY GOT THEIR NAME FROM A PAPER THAT EXISTED 100 YEARS AGO. THE FERNANDINA OBSERVER AND THE HEADLINE OF THIS PAPER OF THE "FERNANDINA OBSERVER"DATED 189.

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WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS. FERNANDINA, FERNANDINA, TUNITY.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, SIR.

VICE-MAYOR. >> LEN KREGER: I THINK CHIP'S PROPOSAL IS THE WAY TO GO. PUT IT ON PAUSE.

SEAWALL WILL BE BUILT. WHEN IT IS BUILT FOR STABILIZATION WE WILL SEE WHAT IT COMES OUT TO BE.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANY OTHER THINGS AND THE SEAWALL IS CRITICAL BECAUSE WE HAVE A TIME ELEMENT ON ONE OF THE GRANTS.

GRANT WE HAVE TO FINISH SO I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. FROM MY POINT OF VIEW BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED THAT HALF OF IT IS GONE OR A QUARTER OF IT IS G GONE. LET'S DO THIS RIGHT.

AND IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN 1850 WHATEVER, BUT ACTUALLY, WE HAVE BUILT A FEW THINGS OUT THERE.

YOU HAVE SOME SHELTERS OUT THERE NOW.

IT'S -- >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH:

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> RONALD ROSS: BY THE END OF THE YEAR THE SEAWALL WILL BE BUILT AND HOPEFULLY SOME RESOLUTION OF ATLANTIC SEAFOOD WHICH WE KNOW NEEDS TO BE MOVED AND HOPEFULLY THE CROSSING AT ALACHUA -- AT CENTER AND ASH WILL BE BUILT, OKAY. AND HOPEFULLY A RESOLUTION WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN WITH BRETT'S. AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN CERTAINLY GET PROPOSALS FOR THE VENTURA PROPERTY.

SO I THINK IF WE DO A STRATEGIC PAUSE AND GET ALL OF THAT BY THE END OF THE YEAR YOU CAN TAKE DEEP BREATH, SEE WHAT WE GOT AND COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT YOU SO ELOQUENTLY TALKED

ABOUT. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, SIR. SO I AGREE ABOUT 80% OF WHAT

YOU JUST SAID. >> THAT IS A FIRST.

>> A GOOD NUMBER. MY HESITATION IS INACTION -- HANG ON. WHILE -- I AGREE, LET'S PAUSE, BUT WHILE WE ARE PAUSING, LET'S HAVE A PROCESS PLAN TO REENGAGE, OKAY. LET'S USE THAT TIME AND WE CAN HAVE THE CITY MANAGER COME UP WITH A REENGAGEMENT PLAN FOR HOW TO DETERMINE WHAT PARCELS ARE COMMERCIAL, WHICH ARE PARK AND A COMBINATION OF THE. AND AUGUST 17, WITH A PROPOSED PLAN HOW THAT PROCESS WILL W WORK.

WITH THE SEAWALL. WE HAVE OUR CLIENT.

INSTEAD OF LETTING FOUR OUR FIVE MONTHS GO BY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY? NOW I HEARD THE VETURO PROPERTY MENTIONED.

AND PROPOSALS ON THAT. SO THAT WE ARE CLEAR IN OUR DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER. WE WANT THE CITY MANAGER TO PAUSE ANY CONSIDERATION OF ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE

SITE. >> BUT COME UP WITH A PLAN OF

SOLICITING PROPOSALS. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: CORRECT, CORRECT. BUT NOT ENTERTAIN PROPOSALS;

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>> FINE WITH ME. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY, ON

THE VETURO PROPERTY? >> IF THEY ARE WILLING TO DO A PUBLIC, PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. AND SO ARE WE -- ARE WE.

>> YES. ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMAN, WE MADE PROGRESS. VICE-MAYOR.

>> TO ENSURE THAT ANY PLAN OF COMMERCIALIZATION IS WITH RFQ.

PRETTY MUCH INCONSISTENT WITH PURCHASING PROCESS.

ONE PERSON THERE AND ONE PERSON THERE AND EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY AND WE ACTUALLY DID -- WE DID IT ONCE, AND.

>> MR. MAYOR, ALWAYS THE INTENT AND ALL ALONG WAS TO SOLICIT PROPOSALS IN A NARRATIVE FORM FOR ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTHERN WATERFRONT. THE PROPOSAL BROUGHT TO YOU TO DETERMINE HOW TO PROCEED WITH THOSE.

AND ALWAYS A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL PLAN IN PLACE.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.

GENTLEMEN, GOOD WORK. SO WE HAVE A PLAN TO GO FORWARD. IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM 3.2.

[3.2. BUILDING PERMIT EXEMPTION ­ ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ­ This item is placed on the agenda at the request of Commissioner Bean.]

THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE WORKSHOP AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER BEAN. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> BRADLEY BEAN: WHAT I BRING BEFORE THE COMMISSION TODAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SLASH REGULATION OF WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE OVERBEARING, AND I KNOW THE CITY ENGINEER IS OVER HERE AND MAYBE BRING HIM UP TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS.

WHAT I AM REFERRING, YOU RECEIVED E-MAILS FROM A CONSTITUENT, AND SINCE I TOOK OFFICE, THE FIRST ONE OF THE SAGA OF ONE GENTLEMAN IN OUR COMMUNITY ATTEMPTING TO BUILD A SHED THAT WAS PREBUILT. NUMBER OF PERMITS AND FEES S STOPPING THIS GENTLEMAN FROM CONSTRUCTING A SHED IN HIS BACK YARD AND A LITTLE OVERBEARING AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY ASK THE COMMISSION TOGETHER AND MAYBE ASK THE CITY ENGINEER -- YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

>> CHARLIE GEORGE, CITY ENGINEER.

>> BRADLEY BEAN: THANK YOU. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IN GENERAL, IN THIS CASE, WOULD YOU SAY YES OR NO THAT WE HAVE TOO MUCH -- NOT YES OR NO, OR WITH EXPLANATION, I WANT TO HEAR THE STORY WHAT IS STOPPING THIS GENTLEMAN FROM BUILDING THE SHED AND WHAT IS THE HOLD-UP AND HOW CAN WE HELP

WITH THIS PROCESS? >> I UNDERSTAND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE SHED IS PRETTY MUCH THE ISSUE.

THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE OPINIONED THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH ORDINANCES ALL HAVE EXEMPTIONS LISTED OUT WHEN PERMITS ARE REQUIRED. NASSAU COUNTY DOES TOO.

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THE SHEDS IS COMPLIANCE WITH WIND LOAD REQUIREMENTS IN THE COASTAL AREA AND THE CODE.

THE CODE REQUIRES -- LIKE NASSAU COUNTY HAS A MINIMUM -- A MAXIMUM OF 250 SQUARE FOOT BEFORE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT. FERNANDINA IS 150 FEET THAT FOLLOWS THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE AND PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE COASTAL ENVIRONMENT.

IF YOU DON'T DO -- THINK OF 150 SQUARE FEET.

15 X 10. ALL ABOUT THE CONNECTIONS OF THE MATERIALS TOGETHER IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM SUBMIT A PERMIT SHOWING THOSE. THEY COULD PUT IT UP LIQUID NAILS, RUBBER BANDS, ANYTHING. CONTRACTORS -- IN DEFERENCE TO MR. STURGES, THAT THEY DO THAT, BUT IT DOES ALLOW THAT GAP AND A WIND LOAD. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONNECTIONS OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE SHED AND CONNECTED TO THE GROUND, SLAB OR FOUNDATION. THAT IS HOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE COMES INTO PLAY. A 25 X 10.

ALMOST A DOUBLE CAR GARAGE AND A HEIGHT RESTRICTION.

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THEY ARE DETAILED. THEY ARE PLUMBING, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, STRUCTURAL. FLOOD PLAINS GET ISSUES AND WIND LOAD GETS ISSUES AND FROM OUR STANDPOINT AS FAR AS PERMIT CAN AND THE CODES, WE ARE FOLLOWING INDUSTRY STANDARDS AS FAR AS EXEMPTIONS AND LET PEOPLE BUILD SOME THINGS WITHOUT GETTING REVIEW BY AN APPROPRIATE PERSON TO FOLLOW THE CODES IS DANGEROUS. NOW WE ARE WORKING ON CLARIFYING AND SIMPLIFYING THE PERMIT FEE PROCESS AND WE ARE LOOKING OF CLARIFYING AND MAKING IT MORE USER FRIENDLY OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. SO ALL THAT IS BEING WORKED ON BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, MYSELF AND EVERYBODY IS INVOLVED TRYING TO DO THAT.

WE ARE WORKING TOWARD MAKING IT A LITTLE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND A LITTLE EASIER TO GET DONE AND IT IS A PROCESS.

>> THANK YOU. A GREAT EXPLANATION.

I DO HAVE. I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BEFORE WE GO TWO FURTHER DO WE HAVE A

DIFFERENTIATION. >> PREFABRICATED SHED DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT PERMIT PROCESS BECAUSE BUILT IN A MANUFACTURED FACILITY. BASICALLY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS STILL THERE. BUT WE LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO LOWE'S AND BUY A PREFABRICATED SHED AND TUESDAY AS A SHED.

WHAT WE HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR SOMEBODY WILL PUT AIR CONDITIONING, ELECTRICAL, START LIVING IN IT AND DOING OTHER THINGS. THE SHEDS HAVE BEEN -- YOU COULD BUILD A TINY HOUSE OUT OF ONE OF THOSE SHEDS.

WE LOOK AT THE PREFAB DIFFERENTLY THAN STICK BUI

BUILDING. >> DAVID STURGES: THAT IS GREAT NEWS. I AM UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE SHED BEING BUILT IS A HYBRID.

PREFAB BUT COMMON THREE OR FOUR PIECES THAT NEED TO BE STUCK TOGETHER AND THUS REQUIRES THE SECOND PERMIT WITH THE STICK

BUILD PERMIT. >> YES, IT DOES.

BUT NOSE THINGS ARE FAIRLY SIMPLE PERMIT.

A LOT OF THEM OVER THE COUNTER. NOT A 30-DAY DEAL.

WE DO NEED TO SEE THAT WHAT IS BEING PUT IN MEETS THE WIND LOAD CRITERIA. WHEN THEY ARE STICK BUILT, AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE FIELD SOMEBODY NOT PUT FOUR BOLTS IN, THEY ARE PUTTING TWO BOLTS. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT A

QUICK PROCESS. >> BRADLEY BEAN: UNDERSTOOD.

FROM THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, THE FEE ASSOCIATED WITH A SHED

PERMIT. >> LIKE A PREFABRICATED?

>> BRADLEY BEAN: EITHER. >> WE WANT TO ESTABLISH A MINIMUM PERMIT AND RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT A $75 PERMITTED FEE

FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> BRADLEY BEAN: OKAY.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT IN THE FUTURE.

BUT WHAT -- WHAT IS THIS GENTLEMAN --

>> RIGHT NOW ABOUT THE -- IN THAT SAME RANGE.

>> BRADLEY BEAN: IN THAT B BALLPARK.

FOR ME -- I KNOW YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE SAME E-MAILS T THATIVEFROM THIS GENTLEMAN. AND I WANT TO CLEAR THIS ISSUE UP. MONTHS -- THERE HAVE BEEN ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN CONSTANT SINCE STARTED IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY THAT THIS GENTLEMAN HAD ISSUE WITH THE SHED SINCE THEN AND I WANT TO KNOCK THIS OUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A COMMISSION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY ENGINEER TO WORK WITH THIS GENTLEMAN TO GET THE SHED BUILT.

THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO DO.

>> IF HE WILL CALL ME. I HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A WHILE ON OTHER PROJECTS. IF SOMEBODY CALLS ME, I WILL BE GLAD TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.

WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE THINGS SO USER-FRIENDLY AND SIMPLE IS TO NOT GIVE THEM A REASON NOT TO GET A PERMIT.

BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, SOMETHING GETS CONVOLUTED AND EXPENSIVE, THEY WILL GO AND RISK IT.

AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THAT AND MAKE IT THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND LESS PAINFUL AS POSSIBLE.

>> BRADLEY BEAN: I LOVE TO HEAR IT SO I WILL COMMUNICATE WITH THE GENTLEMAN AND LET HIM KNOW TO CONTACT YOU.

THAT IS NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, AT THE END OF THE TALK, I AM AWARE THAT WE INDUSTRIAL A LARGE SURPLUS OF RESERVE IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING TO SIMPLIFYING THE FEE STRUCTURE, BUT DO WE HAVE PLANS TO CUT THOSE FEES DOWN OF THE REDUCED LEVEL OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT RESERVE?

>> WHAT LOOKING AT THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND TRYING TO RELATE THOSE TO SQUARE FOOT COSTS, PERCENTAGE OF CONSTRUCTION C COST, OPPOSED TO $200 FOR THIS

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TO SAY AS FAR AS REDUCING THE FEES DOWN.

I WILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME DIRECTION BEFORE WE SAY WE WILL CUT FEES. I AM JUST TRYING MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND SO IT IS NOT -- IT DOESN'T TAKE CALCULUS TO DETERMINE HOW TO PAY.

>> BRADLEY BEAN: I DO LIKE TO HEAR THAT.

WHAT IS THE TIMELINE OF FI FINISHING THAT PROCESS.

WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. IS THAT CLOSE?

>> IT'S CLOSE. >> BRADLEY BEAN: THANK YOU.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH:

COMMISSIONER STURGES. >> DAVID STURGES: THANK YOU,

MAYOR. >> UH-OH.

THIS AS BRIEF AS I CAN REQUEST AND IT PROBABLY WON'T BE BRIEF.

SAYING IT IS A HYBRID, BRADLEY, IS DIFFICULT.

ANY TIME YOU PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER IT HAS TO BE ENG ENGINEERED. AND SHED GET BIGGER AND HE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, GEORGE'S COMMENTS, IT IS ALL ABOUT HURRICANES. THE SHEDS BECOME FLYING MISSILES FOR THE HURRICANE. FOR SAFETY REASONS, THAT IS THE BIGGEST REASONS THEY HAVE TO BE PERMITTED OR ZONED AND YOU CAN'T JUST POP A SHED IN YOUR BACK YARD BECAUSE IF THEY ARE NOT STRAPPED DOWN, IF THEY ARE NOT BUILT CORRECTLY, IT BECOMES FLYING MISSILES. I AGREE WITH YOU THE PROCESS NEEDS TO BE MUCH SIMPLER. UNFORTUNATELY FOR THIS GENTLEMAN. I HAVE SEEN THOSE E-MAILS AS WELL. AND I THINK IF HE HAD A GREAT ARCHITECT OR A GREAT BUILDER, THEY CAN HELP HIM SWOOP THROUGH, BUT IF THE CITY ENGINEER IS WILLING TO HELP HIM, ALLEVIATE THAT AND GET IT TAKEN CARE OF AND GEORGE WILL DO A GREAT JOB DOING THAT. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE BUILDING FEES. WE HAVE CLOSE TO THREE TO FOUR YEARS BEFORE WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT MONEY.

NOT THAT I AM SAYING I DON'T AGREE WE SHOULD REDUCE THE FEES AND I THINK THAT IS A GREATS IDEA, BUT WE -- IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, YOU HAVE FOUR YEARS BEFORE THE STATE WILL SAY, TIME TO DO SOMETHING. SO -- AND I WAS LOOKING A MUCH MORE STREAMLINED PROCESS WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

I FIELD SEVERAL CALLS AND TALK EVERY WEEK STILL ABOUT THE PROCESS AND REALLY THAT SOUR MAIN ACHILLES HEEL AND LOOKING FORWARD TO APPROVING IT. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU. SO -- LET'S TAKE UP THE HOME DEPOT SHED, FOR EXAMPLE. SO ON THE PERMITTING PROCESS, DO I HAVE -- DO I HAVE TO SUBMIT A PROPERTY SURVEY?

>> WELL, THE ISSUE IS -- I WAS SPEAKING WITH REGARD TO THE BUILDING PERMIT. YOU STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH SETBACKS AND LOCATIONS NEXT TO YOUR PROPERTY LINE.

SO YOU DO HAVE TO SUBMIT SOMETHING TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR REVIEW TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT ENC ENCROACHING INTO THE SETBACKS AND WITH PROPERTY LINE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO MENTION THINK THAT F FORGOT TO, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND NASSAU COUNTY IS WE HAVE REALLY SMALL LOTS. PUTTING BIG STRUCTURES ON SMALL LOTS VIOLATES A LOT OF OUR SETBACKS AND PROPERTY LINES AND THAT'S HOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. YOU HAVE TO SHOW WHERE YOU ARE PUTTING THAT. THE GOOD PART IS IT IS EASY TO

MOVE. >> PROPERTY SURVEY MORE THAN

TWO YEARS OLD. >> I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT.

>> THE PROPERTY SURVEY, COMMISSIONER BEAN WILL COST

$1,000? >> DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU ARE DOING, WE CAN DEAL WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, THE PROPERTY'S INFORMATION AND USE THE SETBACKS.

I THINK IT DEPENDS ON HOW COMPLICATED IT IS.

WE CAN WORK WITH THEM. >> INSTEAD OF HOW THIS WILL BE.

AND THAT IS WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THE AVERAGE CITIZEN WANTS TO PUTS A SHED, REALIZING WE HAVE A SETBACK BUT THE PROPERTY IS A PROPERTY SURVEY THAT COSTS THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF THE SHED. THAT SEEMS A LITTLE ONEROUS TO ME. BUT THAT -- THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND JUST CAUTIONARY, COMMISSIONERS, WE DO NOT DIRECT STAFF UNDER THE CITY CHARTER.

WE GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE STAFF TO DO SOMETHING, GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER FIRST.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOUR LIGHT IS ON.

>> RONALD ROSS: SURVEY REQUIREMENT IS A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENT AND TAKES A CHANGE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. NOT A FILLING DEPARTMENT.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> BRADLEY BEAN: I AM GOOD,

THANK YOU, MR. MARE. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU SO MUCH. CITY MANAGER.

[3.3. RESILIENT FLORIDA GRANT PROGRAM ­ Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP), Resilient Florida Grant Program; application Due August 31, 2021.]

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>> A NEW PROGRAM THE RESILIENT FLORIDA GRANT PROGRAM AND STAFF WILL LOOK FOR DIRECTION OF HOW TO PROCEED IN PREPARING THE APPLICATION OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU ON AUGUST 17, BECAUSE THE GRANT ACTION IS DUE SEPTEMBER 1.

SO MR. JACOBS WILL PROVIDE PRELIMINARY BACKGROUND.

STAFF HAS A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WILL SHARE WITH YOU AND SEEK YOUR DIRECTION.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, SIR.

MISS JACOBS. TELL YOUR NAME.

>> LORELEI JACOBS, CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH ADMINISTRATOR.

I WILL PASS THIS AND WILL COME BEFORE YOU IN THE LAST MEETING.

AS MR. MARTIN ADVISE ME OF A GRANT WITH A 30-DAY DEADLINE.

THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS FUNDED THE -- THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION TO CREATE A STATEWIDE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT PROCESS.

GOING FORWARD JURISDICTIONS MUST HAVE A JURISDICTION-WIDE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT TO QUALIFY FOR THEIR RESILIENCY PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED BY THE STATE.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CHANGE. THE GRANTS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, THEY HAVE PUT $20 MILLION IN IT FOR PLANNING.

AND THEY PUT $500 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION.

BUT, AGAIN, IF YOU WERE ASKING FOR A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT IS NOT PART OF YOUR YOU WILL HAVE I BELIEVE IN THE ASSESSMENT, YOUR CHANCES OF BEING SCORED ARE MUCH LOWER.

SO THE STAFF OFF THIS HERE TODAY HAVE MET.

AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE PURSUE A GRANT FOR A JURISDICTION-WIDE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT.

THE HAPPY NEWS IN THIS THAT WE HAVE FUNDING IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGETING ALREADY TO MIX THE 50% REQUIREMENT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK OF THE ASSESSMENT?

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: WELCOME MISS GIBSON.

>> KELLY GIBSON, PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THE PLANNING FOR EXAMPLE THAT IS BELIEVED THE RESILIENCY GRANT STRUCTURE ALLOWS FOR $20 MILLION RESOURCE -- RESOURCES TO BE ALLOCATED OUT.

THE CITY IS CURRENTLY LOOKING TO UPDATE ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AMEND ITS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE NEED TO HAVE A CITYWIDE RESILIENCY AND VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT THAT WILL RELY ON WORK FROM NASSAU COUNTY ON A VULNERABLE ASSESSMENT THAT WAS COMPLETED I BELIEVE IN 2019 AND WILL TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND INTO THE JURISDICTION LEVEL AND SERVE AS A BRIDGE BETWEEN OUR COMP PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND STORMWATER MASTER PLAN AND A PLANNING DOCUMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED THERE TO THEN PUT TOGETHER ALL OF THESE DOCUMENTS UNDER AN UMBRELLA STRATEGY OF ACTIONS THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO PRIORITIZE IMPROVEMENTS MOVING FORWARD FROM THE CIP, AS WELL AS MAKE SURE THAT YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND COMP PLAN POLICIES ALL ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO BE A MORE RESILIENT FERNANDINA BEACH.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: GREAT, THANK YOU.

>> WE DO HAVE TWO CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WE COULD FUND THROUGH THIS GRANT ALSO, BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY TO DO A JURISDICTIONAL WIDE ASSESSMENT

FOR FUTURE YEARS OF FUNNELLING. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: WHAT ARE

THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS? >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON

THAT? >> GOOD EVENING, ANDRE GES

>> AS LORELEI SAID THE TURN-AROUND TIME AND 50% MATCHING FUNDS, WE IDENTIFIED TWO STORMWATER PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BUDGETED FOR NEXT YEAR OF FISCAL YEAR.

ONE IS A PORTION OF ASH STREET IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE RAILROAD TO FIFTH STREET, AND THE OTHER ONE IS -- IS BEACH STREET, WORKING OUR WAY FROM EAGAN'S CREEK WEST ON BEACH STREET.

LARGER PROJECTS WE PHASED DOWN TO SMALLER PIECES THAT WE CAN TAKE DOWN IN-HOUSE IN A PARTICULAR YEAR.

WE ARE LOOKING AT TAKING THAT FUNDING AND BASICALLY DOUBLING IT IF WE ARE I BELIEVE TO GET THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND

SCOPE OF THIS PROJECTS. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU,

SIR. >> WE CAN SUBMIT MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS. A PLAN 1 AND CONSTRUCTION 1.

AS FAR AS THE FUNDING AMOUNTS, KELLY HAS 350,000 IN HER BUDGET ALREADY FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT

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WE CAN DO THE SAME THING FOR THE $150,000 THAT ANDRE HAS FOR THE SOMEWATER PLAN AND INTEGRATE INTO THAT.

THE PRICE TAG ON THE COMPREHENSIVE JURISDICTION-WIDE RESILIENCY PLAN, WE HAVE NOT FLESHED OUT FULLY, BUT IT LOOKS TO US TO BEEN $1 MILLION. THAT WILL BE INCREDIBLY COMPREHENSIVE, HAVE A LOT OF DATA AND ALSO CONSISTENT OF DOCUMENTING BY PRIORITY FUTURE PROJECTS, THE ONES WELE AND IN WHAT ORDER AND DO PRELIMINARY DESIGN OF THOSE PROJECTS WITHIN

THIS PRICE. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: OKAY.

SO WHAT IS IT YOU ARE ASKING US TO DO YOU ALL TO AUTHORIZE PURSUING THIS GRANT FOR $1 MILLION FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT DOES NOT ACT FOR A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

AS I SAY. LOOKING TO TWEAK IT WITHIN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: MY LIGHTS JUST WENT BOOM -- IT BLEW UP.

OKAY. LET'S HAVE SOME CONVERSATION.

VICE-MAYOR, YOU WERE FIRST, S SIR.

>> LEN KREGER: I CERTAINLY SUPPORT LOOKING AT THESE TH THINGS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO AS A CON STRUPTIONZ, WE DO HAVE SEGMENT 6 AND 7 OF THE -- CONSTRUCTION WE DO HAVE SEGMENT 6 AND 7 AND THE VULNERABLE AREAS AND WILL DO NO EFFECT. PRESIDENT ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS -- UP TO $26 MILLION. THAT WAS FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT AND DOWN TO $19 MILLION. SO WHAT IS THE ACTUAL COST HERE AS THE DOCUMENT SAYS IS 50 FERRARI COST SHARE.

WE HAVE SOME COST SHARE, WHICH WE ACTUALLY -- WE CAN USE THE AMERICAN RESCUE FUND AND HAVE $3 MILLION IN THAT AND UNLESS YOU ARE FINANCIALLY DISADVANTAGED OR A SMALLER COMMUNITY. CAN WE QUALIFY FOR THAT? BUT, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK -- SIX AND SEVEN, OUR GOAL AND PROBABLY THE MOST CRITICAL VULNERABLE ON THE WATERFRONT.

I CERTAINLY SUPPORT ANY ST STORMWATER ALSO AND ANY PLANNING. WHAT IS THE TERM, CITY MANAGER, IF YOU ASKED KELLY, COMP PLAN, ADOPTED THE POLICY?

>> THE COMP PLAN, AN AREA WE WILL BE LOOKING AT IS THE ADAPTATION AREAS. A SERIES OF POLICIES THAT WE WOULD BRING INTO OUR CODE -- OR INTO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE CHANGES.

>> LEN KREGER: BY DOING THAT WHICH IS RECOMMENDED BY THE STATE, THAT WILL SET US UP STRATEGICALLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I TRIED PERSONALLY TO LOOK STRATEGICALLY WHAT WAS IN PLACE TO GET THE MONEY LATER.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH: THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> RONALD ROSS: CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE GOT ENOUGH PLANS.

MAYBE WANT TO BREAK IT INTO TWO AND APPLY FOR BOTH OF THEM, FINE. BUT I CERTAINLY HOPE WOULD YOU GO FOR SHOVEL-READY CONSTRUCTION.

IF THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE US MONEY, LET'S GO.

>> THEY WILL GIVE US MONEY FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE PRIORITIZED IN A JURIS JURISDICTION-WIDE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT. WE DON'T HAVE THAT AT THIS T

TIME. >> RONALD ROSS: YOU ARE TELLING ME WE COULDN'T GET CONSTRUCTION ZONES.

>> INTERESTING FUNDING, 500 MILLION THROUGH AMERICAN RESCUE DOLLARS AND THROUGH 2024 AND REMITTED THROUGH 2026.

BUT EXACTLY HOW TO THEY ARE GOING TO ROLL THIS OUT IS A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING. I WOULD SEE IT TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO TRY FOR A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

THEY CAN ALWAYS SAY NO. BUT I WOULD BE MAKING THE ARGUMENT THAT WE ARE ALSO ASKING FOR THE FUNDING OF THIS CREATION OF THIS JURISDICTION VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT SIMULTANEOUS TO JUSTIFY THE CONSTRUCTION.

>> RONALD ROSS: SIMULT SIMULTANEOUSLY.

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH. COMMISSIONER BEAN.

>> BRADLEY BEAN: WHAT IS HAPPENING.

AND IN ORDER TO APPLY. WE NEED THIS SPECIALIZED STUDY AND THE GRANT ITSELF WILL COVER HALF OF THAT AND THE HALF OF MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE MUST EX-TREND COME OUT OF KELLY'S BUDGET OUT OF THE FUND. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO -- RIGHT NOW WE WILL HAVE TO FIND HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET TO ALLOCATE IT TO MAKE THE JURISDICTION-WIDE PLAN.

>> IN THE CURRENT BUDGET $350,000

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THOSE ARE BASED ON QUOTES THAT SHE'S PAYING.

LEVERAGE THEM TO THE UMBRELLA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PROJECT IDENTIFIED TO POSITION US FOR FUTURE GRANTS.

>> UNDERSTOOD. SO THE $350,000 IF WE WERE TO SPEND IT ON THIS JURISDICTION-WIDE STUDY, THAT WOULD COVER OUR NEEDS FOR A FUTURE -- WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS IF WE SPEND THE $350,000 ON THIS JURISDICTION-WIDE STUDY, WE WOULD NO LONGER NEED THE OTHER STUDY BECAUSE THIS ECLIPSES THAT OR WE WOULD STILL NEED TO SPEND A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LATER ON.

IF WE RUN UP THIS $350,000 WE'RE STILL GOING TO NEED --

>> THE PLAN WILL FULLY MEET THOSE NEEDS.

>> TO CLARIFY, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE BUDGETED THROUGH THE GENERAL REVENUE ACCOUNT AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENTS OVER TWO FISCAL YEARS.

>> YES. >> THIS UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR AND THE FOLLOWING, UTILIZING THOSE DOLLARS AND PUTTING THEM INTO A RESILIENT FLORIDA GRANT WOULD ALLOW US TO EXTEND THEM FURTHER BY GETTING A RESILIENCY PLAN OUT OF IT CITY WIDE, UPDATES TO THE STORM WATER MASTER PLAN AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF AND LAND DEVELOPMENT PLAN ITSELF WOULD BE COVERED WITHIN THAT BUNDLE OF ACTIVITIES THAT WE WOULD BE WORKING ON.

WE'D ALSO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT PRIORITIZATION OF PROJECTS AND A STRATEGY FOR LOOKING AT RESILIENCY ALONG THE SHORELINE BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE IT'S NECESSARY.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO IT BECOMES AN UMBRELLA IF YOU WILL TO CAPTURE ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO ANYWAY, BUT IT WILL ALSO POSITION US THROUGH THE NEXT PLANNING HORIZON WITH RESPECT TO RESILIENCY, SUSTAINABILITY, AND

ADAPTABILITY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND ONE FINAL QUESTION IS THAT WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER $150,000 ALLOCATED IN ADDITION

TO THE $350,000 WE ALREADY HAVE. >> THROUGH STORM WATER FEES RIGHT NOW FOR PLANNING PROJECTS AND STORM WATER.

>> SO WE NEED TO FIND THAT AND THEN WE COULD SPEND THAT AND FAIL TO RECEIVE THIS GRANT EVEN IF WE SPEND THIS MONEY, IS THAT

RIGHT? >> JUST TO CLARIFY, SO WE HAVE $150,000 IN THE STORM WATER BUDGET FOR PLANNING AND DESIGN PURPOSES RESILIENCY. THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND WE'LL DO REGARDLESS OF GETTING THIS GRANT. IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THOSE FUNDS TO DOUBLE OUR CAPACITY TO EXPAND THESE PROJECTS INTO A LARGER OVERALL SCOPE.

WE WON'T EXPAND ANY FUNDING UNTIL WE GET A YES OR NO ON THIS GRANT FUNDING. IF WE GET A NO, WE PROCEED AS WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED AND PLANNED.

>> I UNDERSTAND. SO THE MAX POSSIBLE GAIN WOULD BE $150,000 ON TOP OF THE $150,000 WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED.

>> CORRECT. >> WITH YOU WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND $150,000 TO GET THE HALF A MILLION DOLLAR MATCH THERE BY IT

WOULD BE A WASH. >> IT'S THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO WE HAVE AVAILABLE. THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO FUNDING STREAMS. WE'RE LOOKING TO DO PLANNING PROJECTS THROUGH STORM WATER AS WELL AS PLANNING PROJECTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND THEN ADDING INTO IT THIS RESILIENCY COMPONENT THAT SATISFIES FUTURE GRANT REQUEST

REQUIREMENTS. >> OKAY.

SO JUST BEAR WITH ME, I JUST WANT TO REALLY MAKE SURE THIS IS CLEAR BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.

SO JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR HERE, IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT FOR CONSTRUCTION, WE NEED THIS SPECIAL STUDY.

WE HAVE $350,000 BUDGETED FOR ANOTHER STUDY THAT WE NEED THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. BUT IT COSTS HALF A MILLION DOLLARS SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FIND IN THE BUDGET $150,000

SOMEWHERE. >> THE MONEY THAT WE NEED IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU.

>> SO RIGHT NOW WITH THE BUDGET THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, WE COULD DO THIS STUDY WITH THE HALF A MILLION DOLLAR MATCH AND THEN OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS OKAY. THAT'S GOOD.

>> WE WOULD DOUBLE OUR FUNDS. >> OKAY, THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT SERIOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOU. >> THANK YOU.

I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. I THINK THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING TO GO WITH THAT WHOLE THING IS SHOOT FOR THE STARS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR AND YOU BASICALLY GET A STUDY ON STEROIDS IS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.

YOU CAN APPLY FOR OTHER THINGS LATER WITH THE STUDY.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT. >> SO YOU NEED A RESOLUTION PASSED. WE CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS YOU

PRESENTED A RESOLUTION. >> NOT FOR TODAY.

>> NOT FOR TONIGHT. >> I REALIZE THAT.

IF YOU LET ME FINISH I WAS ABOUT TO SAY WE CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION IN A WORKSHOP. AND SO WE HAVE TO PLACE THIS ON

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IT WAS ON THE NEXT AGENDA. >> SO ON THE 17TH?

>> CORRECT. >> WE JUST WANTED TO LAY THE GROUND WORK AND SAY HEADS UP THIS IS COMING YOUR WAY.

IF YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS WHICH THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY.

SO YES, A FORMAL RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE CITY'S RESOLUTION

FOR RESILIENT FLORIDA. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE RESOLUTION AND THE PROPOSAL? OKAY IT IS 6:05 OUR WORKSHOP RAN LONG. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE?

>> I DID. BECAUSE RESOLUTIONS ARE IN THE SYSTEM, SO I NEED TO GET IT IN PERFECT FORM, THE TIME TO EDIT IT IS CLOSED. WHICH STORM WATER PROJECT ARE WE GOING FOR, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? ARE WE DOING ONE OR BOTH OF THE STORM WATER PROJECTS IN ADDITION

TO THE PLANNING? >> WE COULD APPLY FOR THEM BOTH,

IS THAT CORRECT? >> RIGHT.

YOU MENTIONED TWO, ASH STREET AND BEACH STREET.

>> YES, SIR. >> THAT'S FOR EVERYTHING.

>> ARE WE GOOD, GENTLEMEN? OKAY, SO WE ARE GOING TO RECESS FOR TEN MINUTES. ACTUALLY IT WILL BE NINE MINUTES. WE'LL CONVENE AT 6:15.

THE WORKSHOP IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.