Jun 01, 2021 Workshop

>> COMMISSIONERS MAY WANT TO PULL YOUR MICS DOWN.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH, HERE, COMMISSIONER KREGER, HERE, COMMISSIONER BEAN, HERE, COMMISSIONER STURGES, HERE.

CAN COMMISSIONER ROSS. HERE.

>> RM AT ALL TIMES, COVID-19 GUIDELINES, SOCIAL DISTANCING, IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SITTING NEXT TO ANOTHER PERSON AND AS THIS SAYS TWO WEEKS AFTER THE SECOND DOSE, TWO-DOSE SERIES, PEOPLE ARE SAFER. ON TO ITEM 3, DISCUSSION, 3.1,

[3.1 LICENSE AGREEMENT AMELIA ISLAND SHRIMPING MUSEUM AND WELCOME CENTER This item is placed on the agenda at the request of Commissioner Ross.]

THIS WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER ROSS.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR SIR. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BACK IN 2013 THE SHRIMP MUSEUM AND THE CITY CAME TO AN DISAGREEMENT THAT THEY WOULD PUT A SHRIMP MUSEUM IN THERE AT THE TIME. FAST FORWARD TO NOW, THAT WAS CENT OUTS IN YOUR PACKET, FAST FORWARD TO NOW, OASIS HAS EXPRESSED AND IF IN THAT AGREEMENT THERE IS A 60 DAY TAKEOUT CLAUSE THAT EITHER SIDE CAN TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT.

OASIS HAS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN USING THAT SPACE FOR A WELCOME CENTER AND A BOATER LOUNGE.

AND THE CURRENT BOATER LOUNGE WILL BE DEMOLISHED WHEN THE BATHROOM BUILDING THE DEMOLISHED AND REDONE.

IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED PUTTING IN ANOTHER BOATERS LOUNGE IN THAT BUILDING AND THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING BID OUT NOW FOR DEMOLITION. THE -- TALKING TO THE MUSEUM, PRESENT DIRECTOR, WHAT I HAVE KNOWN OVER THE YEARS, THEY HAVE DIFFICULTY FINDING VOLUNTEERS, THEY CAN DO THAT BUT THEY HAVE DIFFICULTY FINDING VOLUNTEERS TO STAFF THAT FACILIY.

THIS WOULD BE INDEPENDENCE OF THE $15,000 CONTRIBUTION FOR THE NONPROFITS THAT THE MUSEUM HAS ANSWERED, THEY'RE NOT -- ONE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE OTHER.

STILL GIVE THEM $15,000 WHETHER THEY HAVE THE SLUMPING MUSEUM OM OR NOT. I WOULD ASK CITY STAFF GIVEN DIRECTION TO TALK WITH THE OASIS AND HISTORY MUSEUM, ABOUT LOCATING THAT BUILDING WITH THE MUSEUM AND CONVERTING IT INTO A WELCOME LOWN AND VOTING YOU LOUNGE AND THEIR OFFICES AS IN -- WHEN THAT WOULD BE CONVENIENT AND FRUITFUL FOR BOTH

PARTIES. >> OSCAR.

OKAY, DISCUSSION. VICE MAYOR?

>> JUST HOW DID WE GET TO THAT? I THOUGHT WE BUILT THAT FOR SOMETHING ELSE AND THE MUSEUM TOOK IT OVER.

BUT DIDN'T USE ANY GRANT MONEY OR ANYTHING FOR THAT, CORRECT?

>> THIS WAS -- ACTUALLY LYNN WILLIAMS WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE BACK IN 2013. AND THEY HAD BUILD THAT AS A QUOTE WELCOME CENTER AND EXTRA SPACE AND THEY WERE LOOKING FOR WHAT TO ACTUALLY DO WITH IT. AND LOU GOLDMAN HAD AN IDEA THAT THE MUSEUM WOULD COME IN, DO A SHRIMPING MUSEUM.

THAT'S HOW IT CAME TO PASS BACK, A WHILE BACK, BACK IN 2013.

>> DID YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS COMMISSIONER ROSS?

OKAY, COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE MUSEUM. THE $50,000 I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE ONLY LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET THAT CURRENTLY GOES TOWARDS THE MUSEUM. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE FUNDING THEM. I'M VERY PROUD TO HAVE SUCH A GREAT MUSEUM HERE AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT TRADITION.

>> THANK YOU SIR. CAN COMMISSIONER STURGES.

>> YES, SO AS OASIS IS MY QUESTION IS OASIS IS WANTING TO MAKE IT AN OFFICE, ARE THEY GOING TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THE SHRIMPING MUSEUM IN THERE OR IS IT JUST GOING TO GET REMOVED?

>> CAN I ANSWER THAT? >> YES, SIR.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS IS THE SHRIMPING MUSEUM WOULD BE COMPLETELY REMOVED AND THAT WOULDN'T BE, QUOTE, OFFICES THAT WOULD BE WHEN THE BOATERS LOUNGE

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IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT MY UNDERSTANDING AS A WELCOME CENTER. SO THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> ONE OTHER THING.

RESPONDING TO -- >> CAN COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> COMMISSIONER BEAN. THE $15,000, TWO SEPARATE, I BELIEVE ON THE NEXT AGENDA WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT PACKET OF NONPROFITS AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT PACKET OF NONPROFITS. ONE IS NOT CONTINGENT ON THE OTHER, THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE THINGS SO YOU CAN GIVE THEM THE 15 -- CAN YOU NOT GIVE THEM THE $15,000 AND THEY CAN KEEP THE SHRIMPING MUSEUM OR CAN YOU TAKE THE SHRIMPING MUSEUM, NOT HAVE THE SHRIMPING MUSEUM AND STILL GIVE THEM $15,000 OR WHAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THE COMMISSION COMES UP WITH.

ONE IS NOT LINKED TO THE OTHER. >> COMMISSIONER BEAN.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. COMMISSIONER ROSS IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN I BELIEVE WE HAVE A DIFFERENTLY ARRANGEMENT WITH THE SHRIMPING MUSEUM, BECAUSE OF THAT TIE WE'RE IN DANGER IF WE GET RID OF THE VOLUNTEERS WITHOUT CHANGING THE WAY THIS $15,000 IS DISTRIBUTED WE WOULD JEOPARDY THAT $50,000 IN FUNDING. I AGREE WE ARE ABLE TO CHANGE THAT FUNDING JUST TO BE A REGULAR NONPROFIT FUNDING, LIKE THE OTHER ONES BUT CURRENTLY IT IS NOT SET UP THAT WAY.

IF WE DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE THE $15,000 INTO THE REGULAR CHARITABLE, NONPROFIT-OS THAT WE ALSO SUPPORT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS INDEPENDENT, BECAUSE I AM CURRENTLY -- IT IS NOT.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> IF YOU WOULD PROVIDE THAT WRITTEN AGREEMENT WOULD I LOVE TO LOOK AT IT.

BECAUSE I LOOKED LONG AND HARD AND I COULDN'T FIND IT.

IT WAS SORT OF A, I WON'T USE THE WORDS GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT BUT THAT WAS SORT OF AN UNDERSTANDING, I BELIEVE.

I COULD BE WRONG. BUT AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT THERE IS NO QUID PRO QUO.

>> DO WE HAVE AN ANSWER FROM THE CITY ON THE DISAGREEMENT?

>> I DON'T REMEMBER. >> OKAY SO WE DON'T KNOW

DEFINITIVELY CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

>> AND THEN MY ONLY QUESTION IS, ARE WE SET? SO WHERE DOES THE SHRIMP MUSEUM GO? THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER, THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER.

>> THAT IS WHY I SUGGESTED WE GO AND TALK WITH THE -- SEND STAFF TO TALK WITH THE -- SEE IF THEY EVEN WANT TO CONTINUE A SHRIMP

MUSEUM. >> IT SEEMS RATHER IRONIC THAT THE HOME OF THE SHRIMPING INDUSTRY WHERE THERE NOW EXISTS A SHRIMP MUSEUM WOULD LOSE ITS SHRIMP MUSEUM.

FOR MARINA OFFICES. >> IT'S NOT MARINA OFFICES.

IT IS A BOATING LOUNGE AND A WELCOME CENTER WHICH WAS DESIGNED AND RENTED FOR. SO PERHAPS WE CAN INCORPORATE A SMALL SHRIMP MUSEUM INTO THAT, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS

OF THE DISCUSSION. >> OKAY SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A CONSENSUS TO HAVE STAFF EXPLORE THIS?

>> YES, THAT'S ALL. >> DO WE AGREE TO HAVE STAFF EXPLORE THIS AND COME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS? OKAY, SO AGREED. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS

COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> NO.

>> THANK YOU SIR. ITEM 3.2, NATIONAL COMMUNITY

[3.2 NATIONAL COMMUNITY SURVEY This item is placed on the agenda at the request of Vice Mayor Kreger.]

SIR. >> SOME OF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER AND SOME OF YOU WEREN'T HERE, IN 2017 AND 2019, WE DID WHAT'S CALLED A NATIONAL COMMUNITY SURVEY.

AND THEY'RE BOTH ATTACHED. AND THE FE 2017 WAS A THOUSAND RESPONSES WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD SAMPLING NUMBER.

AND THEY ADDRESSED ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS AND CAN YOU SEE WHAT THEY ADDRESSED AND IT'S INTERESTING.

I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO ANY OF THE DETAILS.

AS WE ALL KNOW POLICE AND FIRE HAVE BEEN RATED OUTSTANDING IN BOTH OF THEM AND CONSISTENTLY IT WENT FROM 2017 FOR POLICE, THE BEST SCORE FROM 42 TO 43, SO IT'S -- THEY HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT. WE'VE ALSO USED THOSE TO EXPLORE DIFFERENT THINGS. WE LOOKED AT THE AMELIA RIVER WATERFRONT AND PARKING ANSWER CONVERSATION, PART OF WHAT WE

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THIS WAS VALUABLE INFORMATION TO LOOK AT WHAT THE COMMUNITIES REALLY WANTS AS A WHOLE THAT IS A VALID STATISTICAL SAMPLE OF SUGGEST WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER ONE IN 2021.

ESPECIALLY WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP AND THE MONEY ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO COME.UP.

I WANTED TO GET THAT OUT ESPECIALLY THE NEW GUYS SO YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE THAT, SOME REALLY GOOD DATA IN

THERE. >> OKAY, COMMENTS? ON THE SURVEY? NONE?

>> THE ONLY COMMENT IS HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST.

>> YES LIKE -- >> WHAT YOU LOOKED AT.

>> LOOKING AT YOU DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A LOOK.

COMMISSIONER STURGES. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

MY ONLY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST FOR THE SURVEY, AND IF WE DID IT IN 2017 IT IS NOW 2021.

IT COULD BE USEFUL, ESPECIALLY TO HEAR WHAT THE CITIZENS DO WANT. IF WE HAD A GOOD SAMPLING OF THE CITIZENS AND NOT JUST A SURVEY FROM THE PREVIOUS SURVEYS NOT THIS ONE. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THEY WEREN'T REALLY A GOOD SAMPLING.

>> CITY MANAGER. >> TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER STURGES'S POINT, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMMENT, I DIDN'T GET THE SURVEY. THIS SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED BY THE NATIONAL RESEARCH CENTER. IT WAS STATISTICALLY RELIABLE, IT WAS A PURELY RANDOM SURVEY. I WAS IN THE PROCESS OF TYPING YOU AN E-MAIL THAT I COULD GET COST OF TO DO A ONE YEAR SUBSCRIPTION. THE SURVEY COMPANY HAS SINCE MERGED WITH ANOTHER FIRM, THE COST OF THAT I BELIEVE WHICH I'LL FORWARD TO YOU THIS EVENING WAS.

$19,000. YOU GET A YEAR SERVICE AND YOU CAN HAVE A VARIETY OF ONLINE TOOLS TO ENGAGE YOUR CITIZENS.

AND ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THIS WHICH WAS EXPLAINED TO ME ON THE PHONE IT SAYS THEY DO A WEEKLY ONLINE DEMO OF THIS SERVICE ON TUESDAYS AT 3 P.M. YOU'RE GOING TO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION THE ISMAEL THAT I SENT YOU.

BUT IT BASICALLY ALLOWS WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO GET ENGAGED THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT THEIR NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER.

AND WHAT THEY DO THEN IS THEY USE THAT TO COMPARE THAT TO YOUR VOTER ROLLS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESPONSES YOU'RE GETTING ARE IN THE RESIDENTS OF YOUR CITY AND NOT FROM DETROIT, MICHIGAN OR ANYWHERE ELSE. SO I'M GOING TO FORWARD THAT TO YOU. THE APPROXIMATE COST IS $14,000.

THAT IS INDICATED IN THE E-MAIL THAT I'M GOING TO SEND TO YOU SO WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER WE PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR OR NOT. IT IS A MUCH MORE BEEFED UP ONLINE CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT TOOL THAN THE CITY HAS EVER MADE USE

OF BEFORE SO THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS? MY ONLY COMMENTS TO ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT I KNOW THAT PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE WANTS TO DO A SURVEY. SO IF WE WERE TO DO THIS, IS THERE SOME WAY TO LEVERAGE THAT SURVEY WITHIN THIS ONE? I WORRY ABOUT OVERSURVEYING AND PARTICIPATION.

SO IS THERE AN ABILITY TO DO THAT? MY SECOND POINT IS THAT YES, WE HAVE DONE TWO SURVEYS.

AND ONE OF THE LOWEST RATED SCORES WAS THIS COMMISSION.

AND WHENEVER DO YOU A SURVEY, YOU'RE DOING A SURVEY FOR A REASON. TO GAUGE, IN OUR CASE, PUBLIC TRUST. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A SURVEY THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO IS GIVE THE SURVEY RESULTS AND THEN HAVE NO PLAN TO IMPROVE THE SURVEY SCORES.

SO WE'VE DONE TWO SURVEYS, AND THIS BODY HAS HAD NO PLAN IN PLACE TO IMPROVE PUBLIC TRUST. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A THIRD ONE OF THESE I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD SEE THE RESULTS AND FOOUNLD OUT WHY THAT PUBLIC TRUST SCORE IS SO LOW.

AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ABOUT IT.

I'M SORRY, I WAS SPEAKING, DID NOT SEE THE EXACT ORDER OF THE LIGHT. BUT COMMISSIONER BEAN, I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU FIRST. VICE MAYOR AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU CAN HAVE THE LAST WORD.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. MY ONLY POINT IS THAT LOW COMMISSIONER SCORE, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION. IRWANT TO POINT OUT I WAS NOT ON THE COMMISSION THEN SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> VICE MAYOR. >> THE ACTUAL PARKS AND VEK ON

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I'LL COMMENT ON THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION.

IT WAS INTERESTING THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SURVEY, THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND THEY LOVE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE MANAGE. BUT A THIRD OF THEM DIDN'T LIKE US. A THIRD LIKED US AND THERE WASN'T MIDDLE. WHAT WE DID IS BROUGHT TWO MORE COMMISSIONERS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

>> THANK YOU SIR. IMHR.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I'LL POIBILITY OUT THAT BACK IN NOVEMBER THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION WAS ASKED TO COME UP WITH A SURVEY, THEY'RE READY TO GO.

THAT IS 17.9% OF OUR BUDGET. PART OF THE RESULTS OF THAT SURVEY WAS, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE DO NOT WAIT MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS FOR SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY IN THE CAN AND READY TO GO, AND AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO GOVERNMENT SPEED WHERE WE'RE PUTTING OFF SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE ALREADY, WAS DONE MONTHS AGO AND IS READY TO GO. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD GIVE THE CITY MANAGER SOME DIRECTION THAT MAYBE WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT SURVEY NOW, AS OPPOSED TO WAITING MORE MONTHS TO FIND OUT ABOUT OUR PARKS AND REC SYSTEM WHICH IS

20% OF OUR BUDGET. >> THANK YOU SIR.

OKAY SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER COME BACK WITH THE COST AND PARTICULARS OF A POTENTIAL 2021 SURVEY.

WE ARE ALL GRADE? AGREED?

YES, OKAY. >> WHAT ABOUT THE PARKS AND REC SURVEY THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE --

>> I DON'T SEE THAT ON THE AGENDA.

SO IT'S PROCEEDING AS IT'S PROCEEDING, CORRECT?

>> MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY. >> YES.

>> YOU SHOULD HAVE THE E-MAIL SHORTLY THAT DESCRIBES IT AND YES, IN DISCUSSIONS MR. MICHAELSON THE INTERIM PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR HAS INDICATED THAT HE SUPPORTS LET'S SEE WHAT THIS NEW BEEFED UP PLATFORM WILL BE AND DECIDE HOW TO BE WITH THE PARKS AND REC COMPONENT OF THE SURVEY.

SO PLEASE REVIEW WHAT YOU HAVE IN FLONLT OF YOU AND DECIDE WHEN YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE SEPARATE PARKS AND REC SURVEY OR GO FORWARD WITH THIS TOOL. STAFF IS READY TO GOOD EITHER

WAY. >> ANY UNDERSTANDING IS THE PARKS AND REC SURVEY IS PROCEEDING.

>> NO IT IS NOT. THAT IS THE PROBLEM I'M BRINGING UP, IT IS IN THE CAN READY TO GO WE JUST NEED TO PUSH IT OUT THE

DOOR. >> SO OKAY.

SO COMMISSIONERS IF WE HAVE THE PARKS AND REC AND COMMISSIONER ROSS AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN IN MOST OF THOSE MEETINGS.

IF THAT SURVEY IS READY TO GO, AND IT'S VERY SPECIFIC, AND THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THEY WANT ANSWERED HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED ON THIS? AND COMMISSIONER BEAN.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, WHAT IS THE ALL PROCEDURE? FEELS LIKE WE JUST BROUGHT THIS UP RIGHT NOW.

HAD WE NOT BROUGHT IT UP RIGHT NOW WOULD IT HAVE SHOWN UP ON OUR AGENDA, WHY WOULDN'T IT HAVE SHOWN UP ON OUR AGENDA IF I MAY

ASK THE ARE ROOM? >> MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PART OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER -- CITY COMMISSIONERS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PARKS AND REC WAS ASKED TO DID, THEY DID IT, THEY FILED THE DIRECTION AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE. THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WEEKS AGO, IF NOT MONTHS AGO. IT NEVER WOULD COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION. WE ALREADY GAVE THEM, THE CITY COMMISSION TALKED ABOUT DOING ALL THESE SURVEY AND DOING THIS IN THE PAST AND IT WAS -- NOW THEY EXECUTED AND NOW THEY JUST DID ALL THE WORK AND NOW IT NEEDS TO BE SENT OUT.

>> THANK YOU, IF I MAY RESPOND TO THAT, I SEE WE NEED TO ADDRESS, I SEE ANOTHER PROBLEM HERE, IT COULD BE A PROCEDURAL ISSUE. IF WE DO HAVE COMMITTEES DOING WORK THAT DOES NOT GO ANYWHERE, THAT SEEMS LIKE THE LARGER ISSUE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS. THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT ON SOME OTHER AGENDA.

WHY IS IT THAT THE SURVEY MADE BY THE PARKS AND REC WHY WOULD IT HAVE NOT GOB ANYWHERE? I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS WHY THAT

IS THE CASE AND THAT IS IT. >> THANK YOU SIR.

VICE MAYOR. >> WELL, THE -- I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS ON THE SURVEY AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE DOING IT, HOW THEY'RE PROCEEDING AND MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW. I'M GOING TO MEET WITH SCOTT ON

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HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. >> MR. MAYOR.

>> YES. >> LET ME PUT SOME OF THIS IN A CONTEXT. THE CURRENT PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN WHICH WAS ADOPTED TO QUOTE COMMISSIONER BEAN, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, IN NOVEMBER OF 2015 THAT PLAN WAS COMPLETELY DISREGARDED.

WE HAVE NOT DONE NEARLY ANYTHING TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THAT PARKS-REC MASTER PLAN. SO THE QUESTION IS THAT I FOES TO FORMER DIRECTOR MS. VOIT WAS WHY DON'T YOU WORK WITH THE PARKS AND REC, IF THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THE PLAN.

BECAUSE OVER THE PAST YEAR THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS WORKING INTERNALLY TO CHANGE THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN.

MY CHALLENGE TO THEM WAS WE HAD EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO DEVELOP THAT PLAN IMRETD THERE WAS NO COMMUNITY OUTREACH THROUGH PARK AND REC ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S EFFORTS OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST 12 TO 18 MONTHS.

SO THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION NOW WANT TO BE MUCH MORE ENGAGED AND SO PART OF ONE OF THE GOALS THAT I SET FOR MS. VOIT, I SENT GOALS FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, WAS THAT TO CONDUCT AND REVISE THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMITTEE SO WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING TO GO FORWARD INTO THE NEXT BUDGET SEASON.

SO THEY'VE GONE AHEAD AND THEY'VE DEVELOPED SURVEY AND THEY INTEND TO USE THE COMMON SURVEY TOOL, SURVEY M MONKEY.

IS IT READY TO GO? YES.

THAT IS READY TO GO. THAT'S NOTE THAT IT'S BEING KEPT SECRET FROM THE CITY COMMISSION, THIS IS PART OF DEPARTMENT OPERATING AND SURVEYING THE COMMUNITY AND COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY HERE IS THE RESULTS OF A NEW SURVEY, DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN? THAT HAS TO BE AMENDED REVISED BY YOU THE CITY COMMISSIONERS.

SO IN THE PROCESS OF VICE MAYOR KREGER BRINGING UP AN ACTUAL CITIZEN OR COMMUNITY SURVEY WE BECAME AWARE OF THIS OTHER SURVEY TOOL BECAUSE YES ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A PARKS AND REC SURVEY ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A SWAY FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND COMP PLAN? IS THERE GOING TO BE SURVEY FATIGUE AND IS IT POSSIBLE AT THE EXPENSE OF TIME, AS CITED BY COMMISSIONER ROSS, THAT WE MAKE USE OF THIS OTHER TOOL? AND THAT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU AS A BUDGET EXPENDITURE, AND IF WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT FASTER THAN WAIT UNTIL MAKE IT A BUDGET APPROPRIATION STAFF CAN LOOK AT IF YOU WANT TO SPEND THIS $19,000 AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT NOW AND INCORPORATE THE PARKS AND REC SURVEY INTO THIS NEW SURVEYING TOOL THEN WE CAN DO THAT TOO. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE GROUPED OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE -- A PROW BACKGROUND OF E

WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> THIS WASN'T DRIVEN BY THE CITY COMMISSION, IN WAS NO BUDGET NUMBERS BUT WITH IT, IT WAS JUST WE WANT A NEW APPROACH, PLEASE COME BACK WITH SOMETHING FOR A NEW APPROACH TO WHAT WE'RE

DOING? >> THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMISSION ACTUALLY THE TERM THAT THEY COME UP WITH WAS AN ASSESSMENT -- YOU GOT TO HELP ME WITH THIS COMMISSIONER.

>> ASSESSMENT AND ACTION PLAN. >> ASSESSMENT AND ACTION PLAN.

THERE WERE COMPONENTS OF THE 2015 RECREATION PLAN WHICH SAID, RENAME ATLANTIC AVENUE AS PLAZA OF THE FLAKS, ELIMINATE ALL DEVELOPMENT ON THE WATERFRONT, THAT PLAN WAS ENDORSED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION AT THE TIME AND IT WAS APPROVED WITHOUT COMMENT BUSY THE CITY COMMISSION AT THE TIME BUT YET WE'RE DOING NOTHING TO FOLLOW THIS MASTER PLAN.

>> SOUNDS LIKE A PROBLEM. MY ONE QUESTION TO YOU DALE IS WHAT IS THE COST OF THIS SURVEY MONKEY AND IF IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE NOT USING ANYMORE, IF IT'S SET AND READY TO GO --

>> THE CITY HAS AN ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION TO SURVEY MONKEY, IT IS MINIMUM COST. IT WILL INVOLVE A LITTLE MORE STAFF WORK TO KIND OF SORT THE DATA, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HIRING ANY CONSULTANTS TO ANALYZE THE DATA.

WE ARE COLLECTING AND PRODUCING THE DATA.

>> CARRY ON UNTIL WE BRING SOMETHING FURTHER IN FRONT OF A BOARD FOR A BIGGER SCOPE. THANK YOU.

>> VICE MAYOR. I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER BEAN

THEN VICE MAYOR. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

YES, I'M FACILITATE WITH SURVEY MONKEY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IS WHAT WE WERE USING AS A TOOL SCAM IF IT IS INDEED SURVEY MONKEY LET'S GO AHEAD AND USE THAT TOOL.

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APPROVAL. >> VICE MAYOR.

>> NONE OF US WERE ON THE COMMISSION THEN, IT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU GO WITH SURVEYS, IT HAD 424 CITY AND OUT OF COIJTD PEOPLE IN THE SURVEY. THE PLAN HASN'T BEEN COMPLIED WITH BUT THE PLAN STILL HAS SOME REALLY VALUABLE INFORMATION DONE BY GRANT AND IT ACTUALLY HAS ALL THE TOOLS.

YOU CAN EVALUATE. THEY ARE ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF WE'RE GETTING THE SAME ANSWERS SIX YEARS LATER SO --

>> ALL RIGHT SO TO WRAP THIS UP. WE HAVE CONSENSUS THAT THE WE MONKEY PARKS AND REC SURVEY CAN PROCEED.

SAND THE CITY MANAGER WILL BRING TO US A PROPOSAL WITH COST AND PARTICULARS ON THE CITIZENS SURVEY.

>> BUT AGAIN YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT E-MAIL IN YOUR IN BOX, YOU'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOUR REVIEW.

I GUESS I'LL ENCOURAGE YOU BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT EITHER, THE DEMO THAT THEY PROVIDE EACH WEEK AT 3:00, THE

LINK THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU. >> VICE MAYOR ANYTHING ELSE ON

THIS? >> NO I'M GOOD, THANK YOU.

[3.3 NOISE ORDINANCE This item is placed on the agenda at the request of Mayor Lednovich.]

>> ITEM 3.3. CITY CLERK, WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE SCREEN AND THE PROJECT SO COMMISSIONERS IF YOU WANT TO STAND UP, WEL WHILE WE GET HAD A PREPARED.

JUST A MOMENT, WHERE YOU COULD STAND UP.

IF YOU SO CHOOSE. IF YOU SO CHOOSE.

>> I THOUGHT WE WERE GIVING HOMAGE TO SOMETHING.

>> NO, NO, JUST WANT TO GET -- AND THE CITY MANAGER WILL --

>> WE DON'T HAVE TO STAND UP? >> DO YOU NOT HAVE TO STAND UP.

3.3 IS NOISE ORDINANCE DECIBEL LEVELS.

I PLACED THIS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE AT OUR LAST REGULAR MEETING WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE DECIBEL LEVEL SHOULD BE. AND MY FEELING ON THAT IS THAT AS WE CONSIDERED THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, WE WERE GUESSING.

I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE SOME EDUCATED GUESSES ABOUT WHAT THAT LEVEL SHOULD BE. SO DURING THE INTERIM I TOOK MY NOISE METER, AND OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO THE APPLICATION THAT I USED IS CALLED NOISE SCORE.

AND IT IS AN APPLICATION DEVELOPED BY BOSTON UNIVERSITY.

WHICH IS CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN A LONG TERM STUDY ON URBAN NOISE.

SO IF YOU CAN GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THANKS TO MY NEIGHBOR, WHO WAS DOING -- WHO WAS HAVING TREE TRIMMING DONE, I WAS ABLE TO -- THIS WAS LAST THURSDAY AT 9 AX.

I WAS ABLE TO GO TO -- THIS WAS OFF MY FRONT PORCH, NOT MY PROPERTY LINE. SO YOWS IT WAS 83 AND A HALF DECIBELS WAS THE AVERAGE. THE MAX WAS 86.6.

YOU CAN SEE, INSIDE MY HOUSE, IT WEIGHTS 72 DE 72 DECIBELS.

72 DECIBELS IS LOUDER THAN OUR CONVERSATION.

AND WOULD I SAY THIS TREE TRIMMING TOOK THREE HOURS.

SO FOR THREE HOURS THE INSIDE OF MY HOUSE WAS AVERAGING 72 DECIBELS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THE VERY NEXT DAY AT 7:30 IN THE MORNING THE SAME NEIGHBOR WHO WE LOVE DEARLY, HER LAWN SERVICE SHOWED UP.

AT 7:30 IN THE MORNING AND FORTUNATELY I GET UP AT 6:30.

THE GUY STARTED MOWING THE LAWN AND BLOWING THE LEAVES AND DOING THE EDGING. SO OUTSIDE IT WAS NEARLY 80 DECIBELS WITH A MAX OF 82. AND ONCE AGAIN INSIDE MY HOUSE IT WAS 68 AND A HALF. AND THIS WENT ON FOR A GOOD HOUR AND A HALF. SO I'M PROVIDING THIS DATA JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF EVERYDAY OCCURRENCES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO ON WEDNESDAY EVENING I WENT OVER TO THE BOAT HOUSE, HUFF AND HIS PARTNER WERE PLAYING.

SO STANDING OUTSIDE THE FENCE RIGHT THERE NEXT TO HUFF HE WAS AVERAGING 85 DECIBELS, MAX 88, ALMOST 89.

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YOU CAN SEE THE READINGS WERE AN AVERAGE OF 82, MAXING OUT ATTEST. MS. ACCOSTA WAS OUTSIDE, MEASURED FROM HER BEDROOM, WENT INSIDE HER BEDROOM AND YOU CAN SEE THE AVERAGE WAS ALMOST 69 DECIBELS.

THAT IS IN HER BEDROOM. THE MAX WAS 74.

SO I COULD TELL YOU IT WAS NOTICEABLE, I WOULD NOT PERSONALLY WANT TO TRY TO SLEEP WITH THAT LEVEL OF SOUND.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE BOAT HOUSE MUSIC, SAME MEASUREMENT, 85 DECIBELS. I WENT TO THE PROPERTY LINE, THIS TOWN HOUSE DIRECTLY BEHIND US.

OKAY? AT THE PROPERTY LINE IT WAS 77.78 DECIBELS, MAXING OUT AT 82.

SO THAT'S AT THEIR PROPERTY LINE.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE INSIDE WAS.

NEXT SLIDE. THEN I WALKED DOWN TO CENTER AND 2ND. WHERE YOU HAD THE BOAT HOUSE STILL, AND IT WAS 83.89 DECIBELS AT THE BOAT HOUSE.

AT THE CORNER OF 2ND AND CENTER IT AVERAGED 76 DECIBELS.

THAT'S A GOOD 200 FEET AWAY. SO THAT'S THE LEVEL THERE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE GREEN TURTLE, THE GREEN TURTLE WAS AVERAGING 85 WHEN THEY WERE PLAYING.

I WAS AT THE CORNER OF 3RD AND CENTER.

CAN YOU SEE THAT THE LEVEL WAS 78.3.

-- YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LEVEL WAS 78.3.

WAS THERE ONE MORE DALE? THAT WAS THE LAST ONE.

SO ANOTHER VENUE THAT HAS BEEN SCRUTINIZED, FOR DAYS, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS IS THE BOAT HOUSE DOES NOT HAVE MUSIC ON MONDAYS. THIS IS PAJAMA DAY ALL BY THEMSELVES. SO THE PERFORMER WAS AT ABOUT 84 DECIBELS, AND IF YOU GO TO THE ACOSTA PROPERTY LINE DURING THE EVENING SUCH AS NOW, WITHOUT ANY MUSIC, THE AMBIENT NOISE WILL AVERAGE ABOUT 74 TO 75 DECIBELS, OKAY? THIS WAS EARLY IN THE EVENING. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE.

SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU.

SO THAT YOU CONSIDER WHETHER THE 80 DECIBELS IS THE PROPER LEVEL OR NOT TO GIVE GUIDANCE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY WHEN THE DECIBEL BASED ORDINANCE COMES BEFORE US. AND WITH THAT I CONCLUDE AND COMMISSIONER ROSS, I SEE YOUR LIGHT IS ON.

>> DPLUNUMBER 1, I DID NOT GUES. YOU SAID WE GUESSED, YOU MAY HAVE GUESSED BUT I DIDN'T. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT IN A PREVIOUS LIFE IN A PREVIOUS PLACE WITH DECIBEL METERS.

NUMBER 2, FIRST THING YOU PUT ON THEIR LAWN EQUIPMENT AND MACHINERY WOULD BE EXEMPTED UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.

NUMBER 3, THIS IS NOT FOR ONE HOUSE DOWNTOWN, THIS ISN'T FOR ONE OR TWO OR THREE RESTAURANTS AND BARS DOWNTOWN.

THIS IS FOR MORE THAN 12,000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE ACROSS OUR CITY AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT DO YOU WANT NEXT DOOR TO YOU WHEN ALL THIS HAPPENS? AND I WILL POINT OUT I WAS STRONGLY OPPOSED TO 80 DECIBELS.

I THINK THAT'S ENTIRELY TOO LOUD.

>> VICE MAYOR. >> YES, IS -- IF WE'RE GOING TO GO TO DECIBEL LEVEL THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THE 80 AND THESE NUMBERS IS THAT THOSE NUMBERS ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL HEARING LOSS.

FOR DURATION. AND I'M NOT SURE IF WE AS A CITY WAND WANT TO GET INTO SOMETHING WHERE A LAWSUIT CAN CERTAINLY BE BROUGHT ON THAT ISSUE. AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE REASON THAT ST. AUGUSTINE AND ALL THESE NUMBERS HAVE 65 AND THOSE NUMBERS THERE. AND WE HAVE THAT HANDOUT THAT I THINK YOU GAVE US, AND THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THE LIABILITY ISSUE FOR THE CITY, SAYING WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH A LEVEL THAT WE ARE AWARE THE DURATION OF BY ALL THE NATIONAL STANDARDS CAN CAUSE

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I JUST THINK IT SHOULD BE LOWER. >> SO I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IS, DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE AT 80 DECIBELS, DO WE WANT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH, OR DO WE WANT TO ADJUST THIS TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF --

CITY MANAGER? >> MS. DAVIS WHO WAS HERE THIS EVENING, SHE ACTUALLY HAD, GAVE SOME SLIDES FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND THIS IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

WITH YOUR PERMISSION AND I'VE ALREADY CLEARED THIS WITH MS. DAVIS TO AT LEAST SHARE THESE WITH YOU NOW.

SHE UNDERSTANDS SHE CAN'T COMMENT ON THEM BUT SHE DOES RESERVE THE RIGHT UNDER JOHN AGENDA ITEMS TO COMMENT BUT TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE INFORMATION MS. DAVIS HAS PROVIDED.

>> IS THAT AGREEABLE COMMISSIONER?

YES, YES. >> THREE SLIDES AND AGAIN SHE RESERVES THE RIGHT TO COME UP BUT WHAT SHE IS INDICATED TO ME WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT SLIDE WAS THIS FINAL SLIDE RIGHT HERE.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY -- AGAIN BECAUSE OF OUR RULES MS. DAVIS CAN'T COMMENT DURING A WORKSHOP BUT SHE MAY COME UP AND COMMENT ON THESE DURING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

>> COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> IT APPEARS THAT ALL OF THE MAJOR CITIES HAVE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT LEVEL OF 85. MAYBE WE'RE SHOOTING TOO LOW AT 80. I STILL HIKE 80.

I WANT TO POINT OUT TO THE ROOM THAT I HAVE STARTED AT THIS, I HAVEN'T MOVED THE OVERWHELM TIME.

I HAVE BEEN HERE, I'M STILL HERE.

I'D BE BE WILLING TO COMPROMISE, IF IT TAKES COMPROMISING DOWN SLIGHTLY TO GET THERE I'M WILLING TO DO IT WITH THE COMMISSION. BUT I WANT 80 DECIBELS, AT LEAST

IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. >> COMMISSIONER STURGES.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I THINK ONE OF THE EL SPHANTS IN THE ROOM IS WE DON'T HAVE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

-- EL DPANTS ELEPHANTS IN THE E DON'T HAVE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN? CURRENTLY THIS LAW THAT WE'RE WANTING TAMMI TO CRAFT, WE DON'T HAVE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

WE HAVE ACROSS THE WHOLE BOARD. THAT'S JUST THE POINT I WANT TO

MAKE. >> OKAY, COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> WELL, JUST POINTS OUT WE WENT THROUGH AN EXERCISE TWO COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONS AGO THAT THEY INCREASED THE DENSITY DOWNTOWN TO GET PEOPLE TO LIVE DOWNTOWN.

THEY DIDN'T WANT AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, THEY WANTED PEOPLE TO MOVE DOWNTOWN, MIXED COMMUNITY.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF AN INTRAIRMT DISTRICT.

I THINK THAT ONE, 80 DECIBELS, DON'T BE SURPRISED IF A TRUCK DOESN'T SHOW UP AT YOUR HOUSE PLAYING 80 DECIBELS AND WE'LL SEE IF THE REPLIES ARE CALLED OR NOT.

80 DECIBELS OUTSIDE YOUR DOOR IS PRETTY LOUT IN MY -- WELL NOT IN MY OPINION, THAT'S JUST WHAT I BELIEVE.

>> COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> I'M DONE.

>> SO WHAT IS OUR PLEASURE HERE WITH DIRECTION FOR THE CITY,

CITY ATTORNEY? >> IF IT'S UP TO FLEE?

>> MR. MAYOR JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THIS IS NEXT SCHEDULED TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU FOR JUNE DPEANT, AT THE NEXT CITY

COMMISSION MEETING. >> THAT'S THE REASON I RAISED THE ISSUE. COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> THE ORDINANCE, THERE IS ONE LITTLE SPOT IN THE ORDINANCE WHERE YOU PUT A NUMBER IN. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DECIDED TONIGHT. I MEAN THE REST OF THE ORDINANCE COULD GO FORWARD I WR WOULD THI. WRITING THAT ORDINANCE YOU

DECIDE WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. >> THIS IS HOW I'M FOLLOWING THIS, AT THE LAST MEETING IF YOU REMEMBER I HAD SUGGESTED TO GIVE ME SOME DIRECTION. AND I HAVE THREE OF YOU AT ABOUT 80. SO I WAS JUST GOING TO BRING THAT TO 80 UNLESS YOU -- OF COURSE AS TIME, THERE IS ROOM OR THE DEBATE, TONIGHT I DO NOT HEAR THAT WE'RE AT 80.

THREE OF YOU. BECAUSE I PRETTY MUCH KNOW THAT VICE MAYOR KREGER AND COMMISSIONER ROSS ARE SOMETHING LOWER THAN 80 AND NOW THE MAYOR'S TELLING YOU LOWER THAN 80. SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, DO I BRING BACK MR. MAYOR 75? DO I HEAR 70?

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING MY FELLOWS.

>> IT'S JUST HELPFUL BECAUSE IT WILL HELP US, WE WILL HAVE HEALTHY DEBATE BUT IT WILL HELP US TO GET --

>> COMMISSIONER STURGES. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

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IS I DON'T WANT TO RUSH INTO ANYTHING, RUSH INTO MAKING THESE LAWS OR RUSH INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING AS CORRECT.

BUT BASED ON YOUR SURVEY THAT YOU DID BY YOURSELF, YOU PROVED THAT 80 DECIBELS WERE ABOUT THE RIGHT THING.

THEY WOULD HAVE GOT CITED THAT DAY BECAUSE THEY AVERAGED MORE THAN 80 DECIBELS. REGARDLESS WHAT IS GOING ON ABOUT THIS LAW, IF WE DON'T HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO GENERATED THIS AND STARTED THIS PROBLEM, IF THOSE ENTITIES DON'T GET TOGETHER AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS TO CHANGE IT, I WON'T MATTER DID WE DO 150 FEET OR 80 DECIBELS. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HE UNDER UP IN A LAWSUIT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO CRAFT A LAW THAT'S GOING TO STOP THAT. THAT'S MY GO CENTS.

I THINK WE NEED TO PROCEED IN ONE MANNER WHATEVER IT IS, PICK A NUMBER, GET A LAW ON THE BOOKS AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK AFTER

THAT WE CAN GO AT IT AGAIN. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I'LL PROPOSE A NUMBER OF 75. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS HAS PROPOSED 75. VICE MAYOR WAM.

>> MY CONCERN IS THE HEARING DAMAGE ISSUE WHEN YOU START

DOING 80. >> COMMISSIONER BEAN.

>> WELL, MR. MAYOR, IN EVERYONE AGREES IS THE 75, THEN I'D WORK WITH THE COMMISSION TO GO TO 75. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT

COMPROMISE. >> SOLD AT 75.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I STILLING WANT TO HEAR BAIT AND SWITCH IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I COULD. I COULD PUSH FOR 70.

>> THAT WOULD BE A BAIT AND SWITCH IF YOU DID THAT.

>> IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE. VERY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE CONSENSUS AROUND 75

DECIBELS. >> FOR CONSENSUS, THAT'S BEFORE

TEN OR 11:00 AT NIGHT. >> YES, CORRECT.

>> WHAT ARE WE AT CURRENTLY? >> I'M BRINGING BACK 55 AT NIGHT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE STANDARD IS.

>> PERFECT. >> OKAY EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THEN

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.