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THIS IS THE MAY 4TH, FERNANDINA BEACH CITY WORKSHOP MEETING. STANDING IN TONIGHT WE HAVE THE VERY CAPABLE KIM BRILEY DEPUTY CITY CLERK FOR OUR MEETING.
MISS BRILEY WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> YES, SIR, COMMISSIONER BEAN, HERE, COMMISSIONER STURGES, HERE, COMMISSIONER ROSS, HERE, COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH, HERE.
COMMISSIONER KREGER, HERE. >> JUST SO YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE WORKSHOPS. THE REGULAR MEETING WILL FOLLOW AT 6 P.M. WE ARE STILL UNDER CDC GUIDELINES SO MASKS, PLEASE, SOCIAL DISTANCING, TO KEEP YOUR MASK ABOVE YOUR NOSE AS I ALWAYS SAY, THESE AREN'T MEANT FOR TALKING. SO IF YOU DO SPEAK YOU KNOW, TALK DOWN BUT PLEASE KEEP IT ABOVE YOUR NOSE.
AND WE WILL OPERATE WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT.
SO DISCUSSION ITEMS. ITEM 3.1.
[3.1 COMMUNITY GARDEN]
COMMUNITY GARDEN. THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER BEAN. COMMISSIONER BEAN, YOU HAVE THEFLOOR. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
IT IS A GREAT PLEASURE FOR ME TO BRING THIS NEXT ITEM BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR SOME CONSIDERATION.
SO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS A COMMUNITY GARDEN.
WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DID WE CAN IMPLEMENT ONE. THE LOCATION, WHERE SHOULD WE DO IT? NOW NUMBER 1 THAT LOT RIGHT NOW AT THE CORNER OF LION AND 8TH STREET IS THE PERFECT PLACE.
GROWING UP YOU RIDE YOUR BIKE PAST THAT PLACE.
ITS WAS ALWAYS THE LOCATION WHERE YOU PUT THE OLD CAR-CRASH CAR, I THINK COMMISSIONER STURGES WOULD REMEMBER THAT.
IT WOULD BE A WARNING AGAINST DRUNK DRIVING.
IT WAS A PLACE WHERE YOU WOULD GO TO SEE THAT AND QUITE A SPECTACLE. ASIDE FROM THAT ASIDE FROM A FEW TREES GROWING THERE NOW I BELIEVE IT IS UNDERUTILIZED AND IT COULD BE A PLACE WHERE WE COULD HAVE A COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY GARDEN. IT IS THE GATEWAY TO OUR CITY AND I BELIEVE THIS LOCATION WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO DO A COMMUNITY GARDEN/TREE NURSERY. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? A LOT OF THAT WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD BRING IN TREES THAT WE HAVE DONATED AROUND THE COMMUNITY OR STAGE OUR TREES NOW FOR THE MINI TREE PLANTINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, A LOT OF EXTERNALITIES. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TREES TO DEVELOP THE WHOLE LOT, WE COULD USE THE REST OF THE LOT AS A COMMUNITY GARDEN. AND GET MEMBERS, I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE PEOPLE E-MAIL, TEXT ME, HOW COULD THEY GET INVOLVED.
COMMUNITY DRIVEN, JUST USE THIS LAND THAT IS UNDERUTILIZED, WHERE DO WE NEED TO DO THIS? I BELIEVE THIS LOCATION AT GATEWAY COULD BE SYMBOLIC FOR OUR VALUES AS A COMMUNITY, IN TERMS OF CONSERVATION AND AS A COMMUNITY.
ON TOP OF THAT I RAN FOR OFFICE AS THE PRO-TREE CANDIDATE AND I HOPE TO BE THE PRO-TREE COMMISSIONER.
I THINK THIS WOULD BE A VERY COST EFFECTIVE PROJECT BECAUSE WE ALREADY OWN THE LAND. ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ADDING A LITTLE BIT OF IRRIGATION AND A FENCE PERHAPS FOR PROTECTION.
WE HAVE TO HAVE GOOD SIGNS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND THAT WOULD HELP THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S WHAT I GOT. I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION HOW WE
MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BEAN.
VICE MAYOR. >> I WAS FOR A COMMUNITY GARDEN, I THINK THAT'S AN OKAY LOCATION. ANOTHER LOCATION WOULD I THINK ABOUT IS I THINK AT 9TH STREET RIGHT IN THE SAME AREA, CORNER LOT THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE TRAFFIC BUT LATER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA, YES.
>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF
>> HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST TO PUT WATER TO THAT SITE?
>> WELL, CAN I ANSWER? >> YES.
>> OF COURSE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DID IS I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD NOW, WHAT MY ACTION IS TO GET STAFF TO QUOTE THIS THING OUT PRICE IT WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO. I BELIEVE IT WILL BE EFFECTIVELY. EFFECTIVELY PRICE STRUCTURE.
HOW MUCH IS A LOAD OF PVC PIPE? WE DON'T NEED RESIDENTIAL GRADE IRRIGATION, WE NEED IRRIGATION TO WATER A GARDEN AND SOME TREES. SO IT SHOULD BE -- IT'S NOT AS EXPENSIVE AS WE'RE THINKING FIRST CLASS.
THE STICKER SHOCK IS HIGH BUT LET ME TELL YOU, I THINK ONCE WE GET THIS THING QUOTED OUT IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY TO DO.
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>> CITY MANAGER DO YOU HAVE A -- LET ME TRY TO GET AN ANSWER, ESTIMATE, COMMISSIONER ROSS, IF I MAY.
>> WE'LL GET FOR ELECTRIC TOO WHILE YOU'RE AT IT.
>> WE DON'T NEED NECESSARILY ELECTRIC BUT WE COULD IF YOU
HONESTLY WANT TO DO IT. >> CITY MANAGER YOU'RE WELL VERSED IN RUNNING WATER TO SITES.
WHERE IS THE NEAREST -- ARE YOU AWARE OF THE NEAREST WATER LINE
TO THAT TRACK? >> I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS WATER SERVICE TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF LIME
STREET. >> OKAY SO THE NORTH WATER LINE IS SERVING THOSE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS?
>> THAT'S MORE OF A DISTRIBUTION LINE THAN A SERVICE LINE.
>> TO RUN A LINE FROM THAT LINE? >> A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE BY MR. GLISSAN AND MR. DESOLE IS APPROXIMATELY 20 TO $25,000 TO FULLY IMPLEMENT AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM FOR THAT SITE.
>> THAT'S JUST WATER RIGHT? >> CORRECT.
>> OKAY, ALL RIGHT. >> CAN I KEEP GOING?
>> YES, SIR. >> CITY MANAGER THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> WELL, HERE'S MY CONCERNS.
NUMBER 1 THIS ISN'T IN OUR VISION PLAN.
THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CALL ANOTHER BRIGHT SHINY OBJECT AND WE'RE NOT FOCUSING ON WHAT WE HAVE AGREED THAT ARE OUR MAJOR PROBLEMS. SO WE'RE ASKING STAFF TO TAKE TIME AND EFFORTS TO DO SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S NOT WITHIN THE CURRENT SCOPE OF OUR VISION. NUMBER 2, I THINK THIS IS INCREASING THE SCOPE OF GOVERNMENT.
WE HAVE PRIVATE NURSERIES, OTHER PLACES FOR TREES, WE'RE COMPETING WITH THEM, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.
SO I THINK WE'RE COMPETING WITH PRIVATE ENTERPRISE AND I THINK THERE'S MONEYS BETTER SPENT ON OTHER PROJECTS OTHERWISE THAT ARE OTHERWISE MORE CRUCIAL TO THE CITY AT THIS POINT.
SO I WOULDN'T BE AMENABLE FOR PURSUING IT BUT IT IS AN
INTERESTING IDEA. >> PROCEDURALLY BECAUSE THIS IS A WORKSHOP AND A DISCUSSION, WHEN A COMMISSIONER RAISES A PROPOSAL AND ANOTHER COMMISSIONER ASKS QUESTIONS AND THEN MAKES A SPHW STATEMENT ABOE PROMOTE, IN FAIRNESS I THINK COMMISSIONER BEAN SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY ORESPOND TO COMMISSIONER ROSS AND THEN I'LL ASK THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
COMMISSIONER BEAN, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER ROSS, BUT YEAH, WHAT HE SAID.
>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. ABOUT YOUR TWO POINTS COMMISSIONER ROSS. NUMBER 1 IT IS CERTAINLY IN OUR VISION PLAN IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR MOUSE PAD, IT IS OUR NUMBER 1 ROLE IN CONSERVATION IN THE GREEN, REVIEW AND REVISE CAN ORDINANCES TO ENHANCE STREET TREES AND ENHANCE MITIGATION.
WHICH WOULD BE ONE OF OUR GOALS, HOW MANY GOALS THERE ARE, 11 GOALS THAT WE HAVE THERE, BOOM. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE GOALS, I BELIEVE THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS LIKE BY IMPLEMENTING A TREE NURSERY AND COMMUNITY GARDEN. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE'RE COMPETING WITH A PRIVATE BUSINESS. THIS IS PEOPLE'S LAND, WE'RE OWNING IT TOGETHER AND WE AREN'T CURRENTLY USING IT.
WE CAN USE IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF BOTH CONSERVATION AND THE COMMUNITY. WIN WIN, THOSE ARE MY TWO POINTS
I'VE GOT ON THAT. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BEAN.
COMMISSIONER STURGES. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S AT LIME AND 8TH, ON THE NASSAU WOOURT AND WATER ANDLIGHT. THE WATER LINE HAS GOT TO BE THERE, WHATEVER SERVICE THEY HAD, AT ONE POINT IT HAD WATER AND ELECTRIC. IT WAS A FULL FUNCTIONING FACILITY, BUILDING, ANYWAYS REGARDLESS OF THAT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. BASED ON THE COST.
I WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH THE COST THEN.
I THINK THE $20,000 FOR IRRIGATION IS A LITTLE HIGH.
THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. BUT IT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE EXORBITANTLY HIGH BUT A LITTLE HIGH.
ANYWAYS I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA.
>> THANKS COMMISSIONER STURGES. VICE MAYOR.
>> I THINK THAT THE POSITIVE ASPECT IS COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
I LOOK AT IT MORE IN TERMS OF A COMMUNITY GARDEN GROWING VEGETABLES AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS.
I THINK 20 GRAND IS PROBABLY HIGH, PARTICULARLY, IF YOU LOOK OVER AT THE NINTH STREET CORNER LOT PROBABLY ALL IT TAKES IS A HOSE AND A BIG SPIGOT, WHICH IS A LOT CHEAPER THAN 20 GRAND.
BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER AS A COMMON GOAL AND THAT'S AN INTERESTING NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO IT IN ALSO.
YOU ALL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. COMMISSIONER ROSS.
>> I'M NOT OPPOSED TO COMMUNITY GARDENS, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO
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NURSERIES. WE ARE A CITY OF 12,000 PEOPLE.WE ALREADY CAN'T PAY FOR WHAT WE HAVE.
WE KEEP ADDING NEW THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MAINTENANCE FOR. WE ALL WANT TO CUT TAXES, WE WANT TO GO TO THE ROLL BACK RATE AND YET WE KEEP ADDING MORE AND MORE. AND THAT IS NOT FINANCIAL REPLY SUSTAINABLE. WE NEED TO FALL BACK AND FIX WHAT WE GOT. INSTEAD OF TAKING THAT $20,000 OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, TO BE HONEST, WE'VE GOT WALKOVERS, WE'VE GOT BUILDINGS, WE'VE GOT PARKS THAT ALL NEED HELP AND WE'RE GOING TO START ANOTHER PROJECT THAT NEEDS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE. AND THERE'S THIS OPPOSITION TO MORE STAFF. WHO IS GOING TO STAFF THIS, WHO IS GOING TO DO THIS? WE ALREADY HAVE STAFF THAT HAVE TOO MUCH THE DO. WE KEEP DOING THAT PATTERN OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR 20 PLUS YEARS OR THE TEN YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY, OKAY? NOW WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER THING WHERE IS THE MAINTENANCE, WHERE IS THE BUDGET? WHERE IS THE $140 MILLION FOR THE PARKS AND REC SYSTEM 93 WAS TALKING ABOUT, IT WAS THE COST OF MAINTAINING IT. WE KEEP CHASING NEW THINGS TO DO. WE'VE GOT PLENTY TO DO ON OUR PLATE AND THAT'S WHY I'M OPPOSED TO IT.
COMMUNITY GARDENS ARE GREAT. ALL THESE THINGS ARE GREAT BUT WE'RE A CITY OF 12,000 PEOPLE THAT ALREADY HAVE MANY THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT WE ARE NOT FUNDING AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE.
THAT'S WHY I'M OPPOSED TO THIS. >> SO I OF COURSE HAVE SOME THOUGHTS. AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE.
MS. GIBSON CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. SO I KNOW THE TREE COMMITTEE HAS HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS. AND PLEASE CORRECT ME BUT I HEARD MENTION OF 166 ACRES IS KIND OF THE -- DO I HAVE THAT
NUMBER CORRECT? >> APPROXIMATELY 167 ACRES OF LAND WILL SUPPORT THE 5% CANOPY INCREASE.
>> OKAY. SO IN THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TREE COMMITTEE, WOULD EIGHTH IN LINE WOULD THAT TRACK BE UNDER CONSIDERATION AS POTENTIAL TREE PLANTING TRACK?
>> YES, FOR TREE PLANTING CERTAINLY AND IN FACT WE HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL LIVE OAKS WE'RE LOOKING TO PLANT THERE TO FURTHER BEAUTIFY THAT AREA FOR THE CITY THIS WEEK.
BUT CERTAINLY HAVING SPACE TO SUPPORT THE INITIATIVE GENERALLY TOWARDS TREE GROWTH AND TREE CANOPY GROWTH WE NEED SOME SPACE TO PARK STUFF EVEN IF IT'S TEMPORARILY IN SUPPORT OF SOME OF OUR GIVE AWAYS AS WELL AS DAILY AND WEEKLY PLANTINGS THAT THE CITY WOULD BE DOING AND INSTALLING, TO MEET YOUR GOALS.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO THIS WOULD ALIGN WITH THE GOAL OF THE TREE
>> YES? >> IT WOULD BE ONE MEASURE, ONE POTENTIAL SOLUTION TO HELP SUPPORT THAT END GOAL.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM, APPRECIATE
>> SO COMMISSIONERS, AS WITH ANYTHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT, ANY ITEMS WE TALK ABOUT IN THE WORKSHOP, WHEN WE HAVE A PROPOSAL BEFORE US, I BELIEVE THE VERY FIRST STEP IS TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT THIS WOULD COST. THEN ONCE WE KNOW WHAT IT WOULD COST, PLACE IT ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND SEE IF IT GETS FUNDED. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY? SO YES, YES, YES, AND
>> NO, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. >> IT'S ONE MORE EXPENSE.
>> COMMISSIONER ROSS, I THINK WE ALL GET IT.
>> YOU ASKED ME. >> NO, NO, THAT'S FINE BUT I THINK WE ALL GET THAT IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES. >> THAT'S TRUE.
>> AND THIS MAY MAKE THE CUT AND IT MAY NOT MAKE THE CUT BUT LET'S FIRST FIND OUT WHAT THE COST OF THIS PROPOSAL WOULD BE.
ALL RIGHT? SO CITY MANAGER? YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT? OKAY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE COMMUNITY GARDEN? OKAY. SEEING NONE, ITEM 3.2, BUDGET
[3.2 BUDGET PLANNING (ROADS)]
PLANNING SPECIFICALLY ON ROADS. THIS IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER ROSS. COMMISSIONER ROSS.YOU HAVE THE FLOOR SIR. THANK YOU.
>> COULD YOU PUT THAT POWERPOINT UP PLEASE.
>> TAKE YOUR TIME. >> SO WE'LL USE YOUR LEAD-IN OF
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CHOICES. PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT BUDGET.CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE PLEASE? SO BACK IN 2018, THERE WAS A CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY COMMISSION HIRED A COMPANY TO COME IN AND THEY CONDUCTED A PAVEMENT CONDITION ASSESSMENT ANALYSIS UPDATE AND I THINK YOU ALL PROVIDED A COPY OF THAT. AND IT SHOWED THAT THERE WERE 69 MILES OF ROAD IN THE CITY, AND THE AVERAGE REPLACEMENT COST IS ABOUT 600 K PER MILE. WITHOUT THE LAND WE HAVE ABOUT A $44 MILLION INVESTMENT IN OUR ROADS.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT ROADS AND THE CONDITIONS OF ROADS THERE'S TWO THINGS YOU NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
ONE IS CALLED -- AT LEAST TWO THINGS.
ONE IS CALLED PCI OR PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX AND THAT'S SIMPLY A WAY THAT IS A STANDARD IN THE INDUSTRY OF GRADING ROADS. AND YOU CAN SEE THE RANGE IS UP THERE AND THEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF WHAT IT'S LIKE AND WHAT IT NEEDS TO FIX THIS. SO THE PCI IS THE FIRST THING.
AND THE SECOND, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ROADS IN OUR CITY, MOST OF THEM ARE IN REASONABLY GOOD SHAPE.
WE HAVE AN AVERAGE PCI OF 72 WHICH IS BETTER THAN MOST, ABOVE AVERAGE FROM THE OTHER ONES THAT THIS COMPANY HAS DONE.
AND OUR BACKLOG WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT, WELL, LET'S GO BACK ONE. CAN YOU SEE THAT ABOUT 6% OF OUR ROADS ARE IN THE VERY POOR SECTION AND IT GOES UP FROM THERE. SO WE'RE IN REASONABLY GOOD SHAPE. THE NEXT ONE PLEASE.
THIS IS A SLIDE THAT BASICALLY SHOWS THAT IF YOU HAVE A ROAD THAT IS IN GOOD CONDITION, IT'S REASONABLY EASY TO KEEP IT IN GOOD REPAIR. WITHOUT SPENDING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. AND IF YOU KEEP PUTTING THIS KIND OF MONEY INTO IT, YOU CAN STRETCH THIS LINE OVER HERE, SO THAT THAT ROAD LASTS A LONG TIME.
SO BY PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO THESE ROADS, YOU PREVENT IT FROM GETTING INTO THE POOR CONDITION DOWN HERE.
SO THAT'S THE TAKE-HOME MESSAGE OF THAT ONE.
AND THE NEXT ONE TALKS ABOUT THE BACKLOG, AND THAT'S ROADS THAT ARE IN POOR CONDITION, SOME WOULD SAY ALMOST, AND THEY REPRESENT ABOUT 6% OF OUR CITY ROADS.
AND THEY SHOULD ACCORDING TO OUR CONSULTANT SHOULD ALWAYS BE LESS THAN 10% OF OUR ROADS. NEXT ONE PLEASE.
SO RIGHT NOW AS I SAID WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
WE HAVE A CURRENT IF YOU ADD UP ALL OUR ROADS, ABOUT 72%, AND THAT'S ABOVE THE AVERAGE OF -- THERE ARE OTHER ONES, THE NUMBER OF ROADS THAT ARE EXCELLENT ARE IN THIS KIND OF RANGE AND WE ONLY HAVE 6% OF OUR ROADS THAT ARE EITHER FAILING OR HAVE FAILED. SO WHAT THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT GOING FORWARD IN OUR BUDGET IS THERE IS NO ALLOWANCE FOR INCREASING GROWTH SO WE'RE TAKING ON ROADS IN CERTAIN SUBDIVISIONS. THERE IS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF THAT, THERE IS NO ALLOWANCE MADE FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.
THIS IS ON TOP OF THE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OF THE ROADS.
THE STATE GIVES US EVERY YEAR ON AVERAGE ABOUT $120,000 PER YEAR BUT WHAT DOES THIS NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS IS ISLE DE MAY, WHICH HAS CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ROAD.
GOING FORWARD, WE NEED TO MAKES A POLICY DECISION, IS THE DO-NOTHING OPTION AND OUR ROADS ARE GOING TO DETERIORATE, THERE IS NO CAPITAL FUNDING AND AFTER FIVE YEARS OUR PCI WILL DROP FROM 72 TO 64, AND THAT'S IF WE SPEND ABSOLUTELY NO MONEY ON OUR ROADS. THE NEXT ONE IS MAINTAIN THE CURRENT PCI WHICH THE ROADS ARE STILL GOING TO DETERIORATE.
THE PCI WILL DAY THE SAME SO ON AVERAGE IT STAYS THE SAME BUT DID BACKLOG INCREASES BECAUSE THE WAY OF FIXING ROADS WORKS.
AND THAT'S COST ABOUT $400,000 A YEAR AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SPENDING RIGHT NOW. OF THAT 400,000, 120 MORE OR LESS IS FROM THE STATE. AND FINALLY, WHAT'S RECOMMENDED BY THE CONSULTANT, IS THE BUDGET IS DESIGNED TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT BACKLOG AT 6%. SO 6% OF OUR ROADS ARE STILL CLOSE TO FAILURE BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY OF MAINTAINING IT, THE PCI GETS BETTER AND THE ROADS IMPROVE AND WE KEEP THE SAME AMOUNT OF BAD ROADS AND THAT'S ABOUT $680 CAN,000 AND THAT DOESN'T WHY INCLUDE ISLE DE MAY.
NEXT ONE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, IS HOW THE COMMISSION
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FEELS ABOUT GIVING THE DIRECTION TO STAFF ON HOW WE WANT TO FUND OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR THE NEXT COMING-UP BUDGET ACTUALLY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. IF WEE DO NOT FUND PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT, WE CUT SPENDING AND KEEP TAXES LOW, THE ROADS DESERT RATE. THERE IS NO CHANGE IF THIS FUNDING WHICH IS BASICALLY THE ADJUSTED ROLL BACK RATE, THE ROADS ARE GOING TO DETERIORATE AND WITH ADDITIONAL SPENDING OF ABOUT $280,000 WE CAN MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE OUR ROADS AND IMPROVE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. SO I PERSONALLY WOULD GO FOR THIS OPTION. BUT I WAS WONDERING WHAT MY OTHER, FELLOW CITY COMMISSIONERS HAD TO SAY.>> VICE MAYOR. >> I THINK WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT 300,000 THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE 450,000 IN THE BUDGET IN THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. JUST INCIDENTALLY, THE REVISIONS OF THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN ON THE PROCESS IS DUE TOMORROW AND SOME OF IT WILL COME IN, SOME OF IT WON'T COME IN BECAUSE SOME OF THE STUFF WON'T BE READY YET. WE WON'T BE READY ON OUR BUILDING ASSESSMENTS, WE WOINT BE READY ON OUR UTILITY ASSESSMENTS YET. ONE BIG THING THAT'S NOT IN THERE, AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IS VERY CRITICAL THING IS OUR SHORELINE STABILIZATION FOR THE AREA OVER HERE IS NOT IN THERE AND YOU REMEMBER THAT ORIGINALLY, TOTAL SHORELINE STABILIZATION WAS 26 AND IT WAS MIDDLE AROUND 16.
AND THIS IS LOW AREAS, THAT IS A CRITICAL AREA.
SO ALL OF THAT WILL COME IN AND THEY'LL LOOK AT THE PRIORITIES.
AND REASSIGNING PRIORITIES. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN YOU GUYS ALL HAVE A COPY OF THIS, THERE HAVE BEEN REVISIONS ALREADY. YOU WILL SEE THERE ARE A WHOLE LOT OF A-ONE PRIORITIES. WHEN THEY ARE LOOKED AT CLOSE AND YOU LOOK AT THE COST, THE ESTIMATES, THERE'S AN ESTIMATE IN THERE FOR EXAMPLE OF $65,000 TO DO THE WALK-OVER AT NORTH BEACH PARK. THAT IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. SO AS THAT ALL FITS IN THEN WE'LL HAVE THE DOCUMENT AND ALL OF THIS IN THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE HIGHER DECISIONS AND BUT LIKE I SAY THERE'S 450, I REMEMBER THIS, I WAS A LITTLE SHOCKED OUR ROADS WERE IN THAT GOOD CONDITION, ACTUALLY.
SO IF STAFF COMES UP AND RECOMMENDS THEY WANT TO DO MORE FOR MAINTENANCE, THAT WILL COME IN THE BUDGETS AND WE'LL MAKE THAT DECISION. IF YOU KEEP REFERRING TO THE ROLL BACK AND ALL THAT STUFF, WE HAVEN'T MADE THAT DECISION.
WE'LL MAKE THAT DECISION, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT OUR REVENUES ARE. SO WHEN THAT ALL COMES BACK IN AND I SAID THIS BEFORE, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, I WANT TO GO TO THE ROLL-BACK RATE, HAD NOTHING TO DID WITH MONEY.
IT HAD TO DO WITH THE CRISIS AND THE PANDEMIC AND I WANTED THE PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS A CRISIS. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DID. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO DO UNTIL I SEE THE REAL NUMBERS AND THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, BOTH OPERATIONS AND EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT'S ALL OUTLINE ID.
ARE WE ED.ARE WE GOING TO HAVE Y PROBLEM? IN THE PAST WHAT WE'VE DONE IN 2015 WE HAD A $15 MILLION EXPOSURE FOR STORM WATER. AND WE ACTUALLY STARTED TO USE A TERM, WE TOOK THAT BULL BY THE HORN AND WE DID SOME STUDIES AND WE ACTUALLY PROBABLY WH WHIT WIH LED THAT DOWN TO ABOUT $8 MILLION. THAT IS ALL IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. WE DID THAT BY I THINK WE TRIPLED THE STORM WATER FEE BASICALLY.
SO WE'LL LOOK AT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE'LL MAKE
THOSE DECISIONS. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.
>> I'M GLA GLAD YOU COMMITTED TE FUNDING ROLL BAM BACK, BASICALLY, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.
>> I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS SO COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU TALKED ABOUT 6% FAILURE. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MILES THAT
>> WHAT IS THAT? IF I QUOTE YOUR SLIDE CORRECTLY
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YOU SAID 400,000 PER MILE. >> NO 600.
TO PUT ALL OUR ROADS IN 100% CONDITION --
>> NO NO, DON'T TAKE ME TO ANOTHER PLACE.
>> OKAY. >> LET ME STAY WITH THE 6% AND
>> SO THE COST OF BRINGING THE FOUR MILES UP TO THE 70-WHATEVER
I DIDN'T CRANK THOSE NUMBERS. >> HOW MUCH PER MONTH?
>> THIS IS A TO BUILD A NEW ROAD.
>> TO BUILD A NEW ROAD? >> RIGHT.
>> WHAT WOULD OUR ESTIMATE BE TO BRING THOSE UP?
>> I'D HAVE TO DIVE INTO THE DETAILS.
IT'S IN THE STUDY, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
THE CITY WAS LIKE 70 PAGES LONG. >> OKAY, SO THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT THAT COST IS GOING TO BE.
THESE POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN. ONCE AGAIN, EVERY ONE OF THESE THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT TO US IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL FOR US TO CONSIDER THEM. THE OTHER CONSIDERATION IS WE STILL DON'T KNOW THE USE HE FOR OUR $5.5 MILLION OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE RELIEF FUNDS. AND I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION WHICH I HATE DOING, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE PART OF THAT, THAT YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
PEUYOU'D BE CRAZY IF YOU COULDN. BEFORE WE MAKE ANY OF THESE DECISIONS WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR.
AND IF WE CAN USE IT FOR SOME OF THESE BUDGETS ITEMS, OKAY, NOW THEY COME OFF OUR PLATE AND ALLOWS US OPTIONS TO SPEND MONEY ELSEWHERE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF -- IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE GUY WHO IS SPINNING THE PLATES.
THERE IS A LOT OOF SPINNING PLATES.
AND WE GOT TO GET THEM ALL SPINNING AND KNOWING HOW THESE THINGS FIT TOGETHER. SO YEAH, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES, WHAT HAS TO BE CUTS.
THAT'S THE BUDGET PROCESS EVERY YEAR THAT WE TALK ABOUT.
AND I SEE COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOU'RE STILL ON --
>> BACK ON. >> YOU'RE BACK ON.
COMMISSIONER STURGES AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSS.
>> BRIEFLY YES. AS LONG AS WE KEPT THE SAME 6% ROTATED LIKE THE WORST PART GOT DONE AND THEN THE LITTLE BIT OF THE WORST PART GOT DONE THE NEXT YEAR AND THE LITTLE OF THE WORST PART GOT DONE, AT THE BOTTOM AS WELL AS MAINTAINING A LITTLE AT THE TOP I THINK IT WOULD ALL WORK BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON BUDGET AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST.
THAT'S MY POINT. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.
>> ACTUALLY IF YOU READ THE STUDY IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T -- WHAT THEY'RE -- WHAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING IS IF YOU PUT -- FOR -- IF YOU PUT IT INTO THE TOP PART YOU CAN DO 20 TIMES MORE THAN IF YOU PUT IT INTO THE BOTTOM PART, OKAY? SO IT'S WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD HOPE THE CITY MANAGER WOULD DO IS GET FROM EITHER THIS COMPANY OR WHOEVER, A -- WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY BUT THE STAFF RECOMMENDS PAVING FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
WE'RE NOT PAVING THE MAYOR'S STREET OR YOUR STREET BUT WE'RE PAVING IT IN A RATIONAL WAY AS WAS OUTLINED IN THAT STUDY.
THAT'S NUMBER 1. >> MY STREET JUST GOT PAVED YEAR AND A HALF AGO OR TWO YEARS AGO. BUT IT HAD BEEN LIKE 30 YEARS.
>> NUMBER 2, YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CUT FROM THE BUDGET. THERE'S TWO PARTS OF THE A BUDGET. HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE AND HOW MUCH REVENUE YOU'RE GOING TO COMMIT.
I WANT TO FOCUS ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT, WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO, HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE WILLING TO RAISE, HOW, OKAY AND THEN IN OTHER WORDS DO WE KEEP THE MILLAGE RATE THE SAME, DO WE GO BACK TO THE ADJUSTED ROLL BACK RATE, ROLL BACK RATE, CUT TAXES 10%, THAT IS PART OF THE EQUATION AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THE EQUATION IS THE EXPENSES. SO IT IS REVENUE AND EXPENSE NOT
>> AND THEN THE THIRD THING MY GRANDMA USED TO SAY DON'T COUNT YOUR CHICKENS BEFORE THEY HATCH. I DON'T KNOW IF WE GET $5 MILLION, WHAT KIND OF STRINGS WILL BE ATTACHED, THERE WILL BE STRINGS AND THERE WILL BE I THINK RESTRICTIONS.
>> THE CITY IS GREAT BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AVERAGE PCI OF 72.
THAT IS IN FACT ABOVE AVERAGE IN TERMS OF ALL CITIES.
>> NO, NOT ALL CITIES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE STUDY IT IS ABOVE AVERAGE OF THE PEOPLE THAT THIS COMPANY HAS DONE.
THEY'RE ABOVE AVERAGE, WE'RE ABOVE AVERAGE OF THE CITY THIS
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PARTICULAR COMPANY HAS DONE. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ABOVE AVERAGE ON SOMETHING AND I'M EXCITED THERE.
YOU HEARD HERE FIRST WE HAVE ABOVE AVERAGE STREETS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> I'D LIKE TO KEEP THEM ABOVE
AVERAGE. >> ALL RIGHT,FULLY OTHER -- VICE
MAYOR. >> YES, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THERE IS A SEMINAR OR A WEBINAR ON THE 12TH THAT'S GOING TO DISCUSS THE RESCUE FUND WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO TO. AND WE'LL SEE, THAT MAY BE A KEY PIECE OF REVENUE THAT WE CAN EFFECTIVELY USE.
>> WHEN IS THAT SEMINAR? >> 12TH.
>> WHERE? >> I'LL SEND OUT A LINK TO
>> ONE LAST THING. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.
>> THANK YOU. I WOULD HOPE THAT IF WE GET THIS $5 MILLION THAT IT WOULD BE FOR CAPITAL COSTS AND NOT FOR
OPERATING COSTS. >> YES, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS A PART OF THE STIPULATION. YOU CANNOT USE IT FOR OPERATING COST. IT'S MEANT MORE FOR STIMULUS.
>> CORRECT. >> OKAY ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON BUDGET PLANNING? ROADS? SEEING NONE WE'RE ON ITEM 3.3, COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT PROCESS,
[3.3 COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS PROCESS]
I'M SORRY THAT THAT DESCRIPTION IS A LITTLE VAGUE.THAT WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY MYSELF.
AND SO I'LL ARTICULATE THE PROBLEM FROM MY CHAIR THAT I SEE IN COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS. SO WE HAVE ONE COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS WHO FILL OUT A FORM TO BE ON A COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE SOME COMMITTEES WHO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS BODY ON WHOM TO APPOINT. WE'VE HAD ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED TWICE. AND NOT BEEN VOTED ON.
SO THE NET EFFECT OF THAT IS IT DEMORALIZES THE APPLICANT, WHO HAS NOW BEEN TURNED DOWN TWICE, AND IT DEMORALIZES THE COMMITTEE THAT ISSUED THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY COMMISSION NEVER LISTENS TO US. SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SOLVE HERE IS HOW DO WE HAVE A NICE, CLEAN PROCEDURE WHERE WE APPOINT FOLKS TO THIS COMMITTEE WITHOUT HAVING THIS TOXIC KIND OF BYPRODUCT OF HURT FEELINGS BY VOLUNTEERS, HURT FEELINGS BY THE COMMITTEES THAT ARE RECOMMENDING. SO I'M OPEN TO ANY AND ALL SUGGESTIONS OF HOW WE CLEAN THIS UP.
SO COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> SO I THINK THERE'S TWO OPTIONS. NUMBER 1, YOU ACCEPT THE -- IF IT GOES TO A COMMITTEE YOU ACCEPT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, OR NUMBER 2, OPTION I WOULD PREFER IS THAT YOU JUST BYPASS THE COMMITTEES AND THERE'S APPLICATIONS THAT COME DIRECTLY TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND THEY MAKE THE APPOINTMENT.
>> OKAY COMMISSIONER. VICE MAYOR.
>> I THINK THAT RECOMMENDATION IS A GOOD WAY TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM. EVERYBODY ACCOMMODATION IN HERE WE LOOK AT THEIR QUALIFICATION, WE MAKE THE DECISION, WE PUT
THEM ON THE COMMITTEES. >> OKAY.
SO COMMISSIONER ROSS HAS SUGGESTED, COMMITTEE APPLICANTS COME DIRECTLY TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
WE REVIEW THE APPLICANTS AND THEN MAKE THE DECISION.
WE TAKE IT OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE COMMITTEE.
SO WHAT DO MY -- I HAVE COMMISSIONER STURGES AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSS. COMMISSIONER STURGES.
>> I BELIEVE THAT CUTS DOWN A LOT OOF THE BIAS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND THEN GOES STRAIGHT TO US AND SHOULDN'T HAVE A RESOLVE SO I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD SOLUTION.
>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> AND IF THERE'S NO AUTOMATIC REAPPOINTMENT, THAT WHEN A TERM OF SOMEBODY COMES UP I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO REAPPLY AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE THAT POSITION CAN APPLY.
AS PART OF THAT PROCESS. >> MR. MAYOR, TO BUILD UPON WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS SET BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, IS THAT WHAT THE POLICY THAT WE WILL DO FOR BOARD APPOINTMENTS OR EXPIRING BOARD TERMS IS A BETTER TERM, IS ON OCTOBER 1ST, AS THE FISCAL YEAR STARTS, WE WILL PUT OUT A PUBLIC OUTREACH EFFORT ABOUT ALL THE SEATS THAT ARE GOING TO EXPIRE ON DECEMBER 31ST. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A ROUGHLY SIX-WEEK APPLICATION PERIOD WHERE ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY CAN APPLY FOR ONE OF THOSE VACANT BOARD SEATS OR SOON TO BE VACANCY BOARD SEATS. THEN WE CAN GET YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE FULL SEATS AT THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER, THAT GIVES ALL BOARDS A CHANCE IN THEIR DECEMBER MEETING TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION TO WHATEVER NEW MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED. SO WE WILL START THAT THIS OCTOBER. PUT OUT A NOTE.
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ACTUALLY WE START WORKING WITH MS. BEST AND MS. BRILEY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL DO A COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND PUBLICLY ADVERTISE WHAT SEATS ON EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION ARE EXPIRING ON DECEMBER 31ST AND DO A GOOD COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORT.>> GOOD. AND THEN JUST ONE SECOND, COMMISSIONER BEAN. DO WE NEED A RESOLUTION TO DO THIS, TO TAKE APPOINTMENTS OUT OF THE COMMITTEE HANDS AND
NOTIFY THEM? >> WE ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO NEEM WE'LL BE ABLE TO D DO THIS. BUT WE NEED TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UNDER THE CHAPTER THAT DISCUSSES BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.
IT SAYS THERE SPECIFICALLY THAT THE BOARD MAY RECOMMEND.
AND SO I ANY IT THINK IT'S FINEP THAT PRACTICE, IT SAYS FINE, IT DOESN'T SAY SHALL OR MUST, CAN YOU DO THAT NOW, WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND POTENTIALLY CHAPTER 2 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. I DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER THAT
SAYS RECOMMEND. >> THANK YOU MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER BEAN GO AHEAD AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT
ADVICE. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, I LIKE THE PLAN OF THEM ALL GOING UP AT ONCE IN OCTOBER.
I THINK THE PROPOSED PLAN OF HAVING THEM COME STRAIGHT TO THE COMMISSION IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
I'D LIKE TO THROW OUT A THIRD POSSIBLE OPTION, ONE THAT COULD WORK AND IT'S ONE THAT MAYBE WOULD WORK.
WE ASSIGN EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
EVERY ONE OF THEIR SEATS HAVE A NUMBER JUST LIKE OUR SEATS HAVE A NUMBER. AND THE WE ARE EACH IN CHARGE OF APPOINTING ONE BOARD MEMBER TO EACH BOARD.
SO FOR INSTANCE IF A BOARD HAD 75 SEATS IT WOULD BE -- IT WOULD CLOSELY RESEMBLE OUR MAKEUP ON THIS COMMISSION AND WOULD ELIMINATE SOME DEBATE THERE. BUT THAT'S A SUGGESTION, WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY, I'M ALSO HAPPY WITH IT COMING STRAIGHT TO
THE COMMISSION. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS,.
>> WHAT I ANY YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS A CITY COMMISSIONER, FIRST OF ALL NOT ALL THE BOARD SEATS COME UP, ONLY THE ONES THAT ARE
>> NUMBER DWO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS EACH CITY COMMISSIONER GETS TO PICK THEIR OWN PERSON TO GO ON A COMMITTEE.
AND WE HAD THAT WITH THE PAD RECENTLY AND THEN BECAUSE OF ALL UNHAPPINESS WITH THE PAD AND UNHAPPINESS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WE GOT RID OF THAT. SO WE TRIED THAT ALREADY AND IT WAS NOT VERY SUCCESSFUL. SO I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT. FOR THAT REASON.
THAT'S ALL. >> COMMISSIONER BEAN YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON. VICE MAYOR.
>> WE DID THAT, AND IT DIDN'T WORK WELL AT ALL.
THE POINT IS THE APPOINTEE WAS THEN REMOVED, CIVILITY GEANT AT
ALL IN THAT CASE. >> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.
ARE WE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO AMEND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ORDINANCE TO MAKE THIS CHANGE?
VICE MAYOR. >> I DON'T MEAN TO -- I THOUGHT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE JUST DEALT WITH CERTAIN BOARDS.
IT DIDN'T DEAL WITH ALL OF THEM. >> IT'S NOT ALL, JUST CERTAIN
BOARDS, THAT'S RIGHT. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO ADJUST --
>> YEAH BUT AGAIN I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE DO WAIT UNTIL THE ORDINANCE GOES FULLY THROUGH. BECAUSE REMEMBER THOSE ORDINANCES TO NAME LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TAKE SEVERAL --
>> I WOULD SAY ALONG WITH THAT, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT THE DESCRIPTIONS OF WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES OF THOSE BOARDS ARE AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND DEFINE IT SO THAT WE HAVE GOOD RESPONSIBILITIES AND
THIS IS WHAT YOUR JOB IS. >> I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
>> CAN WE PLACE THIS ON THE NEXT AGENDA? WE CAN'T VOTE SO CAN WE GET IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA? IN NOT THE MAY 18TH AGENDA. JUNE 1ST.
THE AGENDA IS THIS WEEK. >> JUNE 1ST.
OKAY. MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION IN REGARD TO THIS, IS THE POSITIONS ON THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE, THERE'S APPLICANTS ON THERE THAT APPLIED THREE MONTHS AGO, AND YET I KEEP WAITING TO SEE ON OUR AGENDA WHERE ARE THESE APPOINTMENTS? SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHY AREN'T THEY APPEARING ON AN AGENDA, AND WHEN WILL THEY APPEAR ON AN AGENDA?
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>> MS. BRILEY HAS AN ANSWER. >> YES, SIR, MAYOR.
WE USUALLY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE STAFF LIAISON OF THAT BOARD TO ADVISE US OF THE ACTION TAKEN BY THAT ADVISOR Y COMMITTEE.
>> SO THAT'S MS. VOIT? >> IT IS THAT BOARD, MR. MICHAELSON. TO KNOW THE ACTION TAKEN TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN PREPARING FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION AGENDA WHAT THAT DEADLINE CUTOFF DATE IS, THAT COMES INTO PLAY AS TO WHEN WE CAN GET IT SCHEDULED TO COME BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.
>> OKAY, I UNDERSTAND. >> WE TRY TO FALL WITHIN THOSE DEADLINES UNLESS THERE IS AN EMERGENT NEED TO GET SOMETHING
PUSHED THROUGH. >> YES, MA'AM, I UNDERSTAND.
ONCE AGAIN THIS CAUSES FRUSTRATION BY THOSE WHO APPLY WHO KEEP SAYING, WHEN AM I GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA? AND AS I'VE SAID, THIS IS GOING ON -- IT'S GOING TO BE THREE MONTHS AND REALLY THAT'S AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN ACT TO FILL COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS? THAT'S ABSURD.
SO THANK YOU MA'AM, I APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION.
BUT WE NEED TO EITHER THE CITY MANAGER OR WE NEED TO LIGHT A FIRE AND GET THESE NOMINATIONS ON THE AGENDA.
VICE MAYOR. >> SO WITH PARKS AND REC, I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST PROBABLY ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, FOUR WEEKS AGO THAT THEY MADE THEIR FINAL RECOMMENDATION, AND WHEN
WILL THAT RECOMMENDATION BE? >> YES, SIR, IT'S SCHEDULED FOR
THE MAY 18TH MEETING. >> I KNOW THEY JUST HAD A RESIGNATION SO THERE'S ANOTHER OPENING.
OKAY, ANY OTHER TOPICS OF DISCUSSION? FOR OUR WORKSHOP? WE HAVE ANOTHER 17 MINUTES.
OKAY, I HEAR, I SEIZE NO OTHER R COMMENTS.
SO GENTLEMEN WE ARE ADJ
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.