Apr 20, 2021 Regular Meeting

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IS PRECEDED PLEASE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A CALL TO ORDER THE APRIL 20, 2021 REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION. WE PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

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WE HAVE WITH HIS FORMER MAYOR JOHNNY, FOR MAYOR KEARNEY AND COMMISSIONER CHAD.

THANK YOU. HOUSEKEEPING. PERSONAL DEVICES IF YOU HAVE THEM ON AIRPLANE MOUND, SILENCED. THOSE WE GREATLY PPRECIATED.

WE ARE UNDER COVID 19 PROTOCOL. AS SUCH MASKS ARE REQUIRED. UNTIL YOUR AGENDA ITEM COMES BEFORE THE COMMISSION THERE ARE SPEAKERS OUTSIDE AND THERE'S A CONFERENCE ROOM UPSTAIRS.

THERE'S IN ANY ROOM OR DOWN THE HALL. AND WHAT YOU CAN HEAR THE

PROCEEDINGS. >> THE QUORUM WILL TREAT EVERYONE WITH INTEGRITY AND RESPECT. WITH THAT WE WILL CONTINUE. THE QUESTIONNAIRE WILL LEAD US IN THE FIGHTS. HIS REMAIN STANDING BY THE INDICATION BY REVEREND ROBERT

OF THE NORTH 14TH STREET BAPTIST CHURCH. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> LET US PRAY. DEARLY FATHER WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THIS PLACE TODAY TO DO YOUR WORK.

WE JUST ASK THAT YOU GUIDE AND DIRECT EACH AND EVERY PERSON IN EACH AND EVERY ITEM THAT COMES UP TO BE SPOKEN ABOUT US. LORD I ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO BLESS US IN THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US TO LIVE. LORD HELP US TO BE GRATEFUL FOR THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US TO LIVE IN. WE PRAY THAT YOU CONTINUE TO WATCH OVER THEM AND PROTECT THEM. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY

BLESSINGS AND WE ASK THESE THINGS IN JESUS NAME AMEN. >> ADAM FLOOR PROCLAMATIONS.

[4.1 PROCLAMATION - RETIREMENT OF CHIEF JAMES T. HURLEY]

I WOULD ALSO ASKED THE CITY COMMISSION TO COME DOWN WITH ME TO HONOR THE CHIEF.

EVERYONE PRESENT? SO SHE CAN COME RIGHT DOWN HERE PLEASE.

>> ALREADY. THIS IS THE PROCLAMATION. WE ARE AT.

IT IS WITH GREAT HONOR THAT THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH RECOGNIZES THE RETIREMENT OF POLICE CHIEF JAMES T HURLEY FOLLOWING THIS LONG AND DISTINGUISHED LAW-ENFORCEMENT CAREER. AND, WHEREAS WAS A FOUR YEARS AGO THEY TOOK FOR SOLEMN OATH TO HONOR AND PROTECT. ON MAY 1, 2006 CHIEF EARLY ENERGY SERVICE IS A CITY OF

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CHIEF CARLY IS A MONOTONY RESPECTED AND RECORDED BY RESIDENTS AS WELL AS LOCAL, REGIONAL AND STATEWIDE LAW-ENFORCEMENT PROFESSIONALS. AND WHEREAS CHIEF HURLEY IS DIRECTED RESPONSIBLE FOR ESTABLISHING MANY SUCCESSFUL PLACE SERVICE VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS. THE POLICE EXHIBITED CORE PROVIDES TRAFFIC CONTROL FOR GRADES, SCHOOL ZONES AND SPECIAL EVENTS. THE POLICE ADVISORY BOARD WHICH IS COMPRISED OF RESIDENTS WHO PROVIDE INSIGHT AND COUNSEL. AND SAFE IN PLACE PROVIDES REGULAR BONUS CHECKS AND CHECKING FOR LOCAL SENIOR CITIZENS AND WHEREAS CHIEF JAMES T HURLEY WILL RETIRE ON MAY 1 2021. THIS IS THE SINCERE AND CONSCIENTIOUS EFFORTS DEMONSTRATED ON THE JOB DURING HIS 15 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE AFTER BENEFITING THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH. IT'S NONE MORE SO THAN THE MEMBERS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FAMILY. THEREFORE THERE WAS GENUINE AND SINCERE GRATITUDE AND IS HEREBY EXPRESSED FROM A PROFESSIONAL FOR THE.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT A COPY OF THIS PROCLAMATION IS PRESENTED AS A PERMANENT MATTER OF RECORD. AS THE CITY COMMISSION AS TESTIMONIAL OF OUR SINCEREST THANKS TO JAMES T HURLEY. THEY WITNESS WHERE IN HERE TO SET THEIR HAND AND CAUSE THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH TO BE FIXED THIS 20TH DAY OF APRIL 2021.

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

MISTER MARTIN, TIMMY AND CAROLYN. ENOUGH OF MY REBUTTAL.

IN TRUTH IT SERVING THE CITY AND LEADING THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE.

IT HAS BEEN THE OWNER OF MY LIFETIME GETTING TO KNOW PERSONALLY THE MEN AND WOMEN AND SWORN CIVILIAN IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS.

IT HAS BEEN A JOY IT REALLY HAS. IN MY MORE THAN 41 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT I HAVE WATCHED HUNDREDS OF MY COLLEAGUES RETIRE AND I CAN TELL YOU IT BITTERSWEET. AS A GOAL EARLY IN THE CAREER AND YOU IMAGINE THIS DAY WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO HANG UP AND MOVE ON. I DO IT A LITTLE RELUCTANTLY.

I KNOW THAT THE TIME IS RIGHT. WE'RE MEETING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE UNDER WATCHING THE VERDICT THAT WAS JUST REACHED IN MINNESOTA. THEY ARE DISCUSSING THAT.

DESPITE THE RHETORIC AND THE CALLS FOR POLICE REFORM I WANT TO REITERATE THAT POLICE WORK IS NO MORE. THESE ARE NOBLE POLICE OFFICERS.

THEY ARE GOING TO NEED YOUR SUPPORTIN THE DAYS AND YEARS TO COME.

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SHE IS MY SECRET WEAPON. I APPRECIATE THE WORKING RELATIONSHIPS THAT I'VE HAD WITH THE COMMISSION AND CITY MANAGERS. MARK HAS BEEN A GOOD FRIEND SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND I POLICE APPRECIATE OUR POLICE STAFF AND I SAY THANK YOU TO E.

[APPLAUSE] >> I'M IN A TIE TO QUICK STORIES ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE WITH CHIEF HURLEY. ORGANIZATIONAL CULTURE IS A CULTURE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT IS THE RIGHT AND PROPER CULTURE OF THIS ISLAND.

AND ITS CITIZENS. AND I'M NOT ONE IS COMING FOR OFFICE.

I DO THAT ON THE FLORIDA GEORGIA WEEKEND AND ENDED IT AT NIGHT.

EVERETT ALONG WITH OFFICER ROJAS.I THINK HE'S EXTRACTED NOW.

HE WILL CATCH THEM AND HE'S AN OBVIOUS GUY RUNNING THE LIGHT SPEEDING.

WHY ISN'T HE PULLING ON HIS PAD TO WRITE THE TICKET? BECAUSE WHEN I WAS FROM THIS WOULD HAPPEN. IF YOU DO SOMETHING YOU'RE INTENDED.

THIS OFFICER CALMLY APPROACH THE PERSON SAYING YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? AND I SAID YES I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE OFFICER SAID I KNOW YOU'RE IN TROUBLE SO LET'S NOT HAVE IT HAPPEN AGAIN AND SENT THE IN HIS WAY. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH HOW TIMELY CAN WHEN I WATCH THE POLICE OFFICER AND FERNANDINA BEACH DE-ESCALATED EVERYTHING.

IT WAS NEVER SUPERCHARGED OR RAMPED UP. I GREW TO RESPECT THAT IMMENSELY AND I CAME FROM CHIEF HURLEY. THE OTHER EXAMPLE I CAN GIVE YOU IS THE NATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY. THERE WAS A LOT OF TURMOIL.

RUTH BADER GINSBURG HAD JUST DIED AND CHIEF HURLEY WAS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS.

HE DID NOT SKIRT THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. HE SAID POLICE WORK IS A NOBLE PROFESSION BUT WE HAVE TO DO OUR JOBS WE HAVE TO DO A AND WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING ON ON THAT. THE CROWD GAVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE WHEN THEY WERE THERE.

I JUST HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR THAT. THAT'S HOW WE RUN THIS

DEPARTMENT. CHIEF THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. >> IS OFFICER MARINA WHO IS

NOW THE DETECTIVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> OUTSTANDING IS THE HIGHEST

LEVEL YOU CAN SAY ABOUT SO MANY PEOPLE. >> RECENTLY I NOTED IN THE VIDEO THAT THE CHIEF DID I THINK HE HAD AN OUTSTANDING VIDEO AND I THINK THE CITIZENS SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. THIS IS A COMMUNITY RESOURCE. > THANK YOU SIR COOKS AND OFFICERS YOU WANT TO PICTURE WITH THE CHIEF SO IF YOU WILL GO UP THAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST

WAY TO GET A GROUP PHOTO. >>

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DO WE HAVE MISTER LIPMAN AND LESTER HERE? >> QUICK THIS PROCLAMATION IS

[4.2 PROCLAMATION - FLOOD AWARENESS MONTH]

THE WEATHER EVENTS WILL CAUSE COASTAL AND RIVERINE FLOODING. WHETHER THEY HIGH-RISK SPECIAL FEDERAL HAZARDS. AND WHEREAS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN PROPERTY TO AND ACHIEVED WHEN APPROPRIATE FLOOD PREPAREDNESS CONTROLS MITIGATION MEASURES PARTAKING PRIOR TO FLOODING. WHERE IS APPROXIMATELY 15 YEARS AGO FERNANDINA BEACH BECAME A VOLUNTARY PARTICIPANT IN THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM WHICH OFFERS RESIDENTS REDUCED FLOOD INSURANCE BASED UPON THE CITY'S COMPLIANCE WITH RIGOROUS AND FIP REGULATORY STANDARDS AND REDUCING FLOOD RISK. AND WHEREAS CITY EFFORTS LED TO MISTER STEPHEN BETTMAN BUILDING OFFICIAL AND LESTER, COMMUNITY READING SERVICE COORDINATOR, THEY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY REDUCED THE CITY'S LETTER READING AND THOSE EFFORTS WILL CONTINUE TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL OF A THREE RATING BY JANUARY 2021. AND WHEREAS OTHER EDUCATION AND AWARENESS OF POTENTIAL WEATHER HAZARDS AND METHODS OF PROTECTION ARE CRITICAL TO THE HELP, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF RESIDENTS. THE FLORIDA FLOODPLAIN MANAGERS ASSOCIATION DECLARES IT APRIL 2021 AS FLOOD AWARENESS MONTH TO PROMOTE AWARENESS AND INCREASE KNOWLEDGE OF FLOOD RISKS. THE AVAILABILITY OF FLOOD INSURANCE, FLOOD PROTECTION METHODS AND HOW TO PREPARE FOR THESE.

THEREFORE I EVER TO THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL 21 AS FLOOD AWARENESS MONTH.

WE ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR PROPERTY FROM FLOODING BY VISITING THE FERNANDINA BEACH BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR COST SAVINGS INFORMATION RELATED TO FLOOD MITIGATION. THE SEAL WILL BE AFFIXED THIS 20TH DAY OF APRIL 2021.

>> GRADUATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR FOR RECOGNIZING THIS IMPORTANT ITEM. I ALSO EMPHASIZE THE ONE THING THAT IS A BIG PART OF THIS.

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I WOULD SAY COME VISIT US NEXT SATURDAY. WE WILL BE THERE TO PASS OUT

ANY INFORMATION AND HELP OUT ANYWAY WE CAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH >>> ITEM

[4.3 PUBLIC, EDUCATIONAL, AND GOVERNMENT (PEG) CHANNEL COMMITTEE]

WE WILL PROVIDE THE REPORT. THIS IS FOR THE FIRST UARTER. >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS OF THE RECORDS. >> EVENINGG MY NATIVE IS TAYLOR AND I AM AT 15 FINANCIALLY IN FERNANDINA BEACH. IT IS MY SURE TO COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON N BEHALF OF FERNANDINA BEACH. THE COMMUNITY AND OUR COMMITTEE. WHEN I CAME BEFORE THE THE CITY COMMISSION SEVERAL WEEKS AGO WE PRESENTED A PLAN FOR THE PEG COMMITTEE. WITH THAT PLAN WE PRESENTED GOALS. THEY RELATE OUT QUARTERLY. I'M HERE TODAY UPON THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONS TO UPDATE YOU ON QUARTERLY GOALS. AND SO I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT WE HAVE IN FACT MET EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR Q1 GOALS ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE.

JUST EMPHASIZE WHAT THOSE GOALS WERE, WE STARTED BY FULFILLING EVERY COMMITTEE FOR POSITION.

WE ARE AT 100% FOR THE POOREST AND WE HAVE MET TWICE A MONTH CONSISTENTLY SINCE WE CAME BEFORE THE MMISSION. WE ARE FINALIZING AND TIGHTENING UP OUR STRUCTURE FOR THE PLAN AHEAD IN THE NEXT YEAR NOW THAT WE'VE DONE THAT WE ARE GOING TO REGULARLY HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS. IN ADDITION TO THAT WE WERE PLEASED TO HAVE OFFERED AND THEN ACCEPTED AND THEN AN HONORARY CHAIRPERSON. THE FORMER VICE MAYOR PATRICIA THOMPSON WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD AND IN AN HONORARY POSITION TO ALSO PROVIDE HER INSIGHT AS TO THE HISTORY OF THE PACK COMMITTEE, ITS OPERATIONS AND GOALS.

>> WE WENT TO WORK AND THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR US WAS TO ERMINE A WAY TO BRING G ABOUT COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS. OUR GOAL WAS TO OUTLINE WHO ARE POTENTIAL COMMUNITY OUT PARTAND START TO ILITATE RELATIONSHIPS THAT HELP US MOVE THE BALL VE THE BALL FORWARD.

WE OUTLINED DOZENS OF POTENTIAL COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE GOAL FOR IT BEING TO BRING ABOUT TWO AND TO PURSUE MORE IN QUARTER TWO. WE'VE ASSIGNED TO COMMITTEE PARTNERS WHO PLEDGE THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE COMMITTEE TO HELP DO A FEW THINGS THAT PROVIDE SERVICES AND SUBSIDIZE COST LIKE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING FEES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO YOUR PROGRAMMING ON THIS CHANNEL. IN ADDITION TO THAT WE HAVE A PROGRAMMING CALENDAR WHERE WE LOOK AT THE CITY MEETING SCHEDULE. AS WELL AS COMMUNITY EVENTS HAPPENING AROUND FERNANDINA BEACH FOR THE YEAR AHEAD. WE TOOK A LOOK EXACTLY WHEN MAKING YOUR PROGRAMMING THAT CAN BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. AS A GOING TO THE NEXT QUARTER AHEAD OF US WE ARE BUILDING UPON THOSE GOALS AND FIND MORE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS TO HELP GROW THE CHANNEL. WITH THAT WE REALIZED THAT WE NEEDED A COUPLE MORE THINGS TO

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WE THINK THAT HAVING SOMETHING THAT REPRESENTS THE QUALITY OF OUR PROGRAMMING AND IDENTITY FOR WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE ARE DOING CAN REALLY HELP MENTALLY PROCURE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY PARTNERS BUT ALSO HELP SUMMARIZE OUR AGENDA, OUR CONTINENT AND WHO WE ARE AS A

GROUP AND WHAT THIS CHANNEL CAN DO. >> ALSO WE DECIDED TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR GOALS AND TAKE A LOOK AT LIMITATIONS WITHIN COMPLIANCE AND ASCENSION REGULATIONS AND WHAT CAN MAKE US THE MOST EFFECTIVE PARTNER FOR THE CITY.

WE DECIDED TO PIVOT A LITTLE BIT IN ORDER TO MEET PROGRAMMING AND TO HELP HAVE A

POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY OF ART. >> IN SHORT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO HIS WORK IN TANDEM WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO HAVE A CONTEST WHERE STUDENTS WILL PRESENT MEDIA CONTENT RELATED TO ASKING OR ANSWERING THE QUESTION WHAT MAKES FERNANDINA SPECIAL.

WE WILL BE AWARDING THE TOP COMPETITORS TO GO TO COLLEGE. WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL WAY TO NOT ONLY UNIFY OUR BEAUTIFUL TOWN AND SHOWCASE THE HISTORY AND THE CULTURE AS WELL AS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL BEAUTY WE HOPE TO INSPIRE THE NEW GENERATION THAT IS MEANINGFUL FOR THEM. I'M VERY PLEASED TO SHARE THAT WE ARE ALREADY 30% FULL OF OUR SCHOLARSHIP GOAL. WE ANTICIPATE BEING FULLY COMPLETE WITH A FULL SCHOLARSHIP FUND WITHIN A MATTER OF WEEKS.

WITH THE GOAL THAT IF WE DO RAISE MORE MONEY THAN WE INITIALLY PLAN WE WOULD LOVE TO MAYBE DO A COUPLE OF SCHOLARSHIPS AND NOT JUST ONE IN PARTICULAR.

>> WE HOPE TO WATCH OUR STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM IN OUR CHANNEL WITH ANY BRAND IDENTITY AND AN INFORMATIONAL SESSION OR EVENT. OF COURSE WITH THE PANDEMIC HAPPENING WE CAN'T NECESSARILY DO EVERYTHING WE WOULD LOVE TO DO AND TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH SUCH OUR REGULATION IS SEEKING CITY VENUES AND WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND I SAW THE PLEASURABLE TIME AND SHOW YOU INFORMATION ON FINDING OPPORTUNITIES TO BE A PART OF

FERNANDINA T.V. WITH THE COMMUNITY. >> ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE I WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE HARD WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING.

I'M JUST VERY PLEASED TO SAY THAT WE MADE OUR PROGRESS AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY BOLSTER OUR OPPORTUNITIES HEARING FROM THE BEACH.

>> I WANT TO EMPHASIZE FROM MY POINT OF VIEW WITH THE KEY ISSUES OF MAINTAINING THAT COULD BE. IT'S TO GET CONTENT ON THEM. SPECIFICALLY CITY GOVERNMENT CONTENTS. IF YOU HAVE THE T.V. GUIDE IT THAT WOULD BE NICE TO GET THAT ON THERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE CREATIVE CONTENT WITH THE INFORMATION.

THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT COULD BE DONE MEETING THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED AND GETTING THAT. I SAY THAT BECAUSE SOCIAL MEDIA HAS BECOME CRAZY AND THIS IS AN

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OPPORTUNITY TO GET ACTUAL FACTS. >> THINK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MISTER MARINELLO VELOSO. I WANT TO SAY THAT THAT'S AWESOME. HOW ARE YOU FUNDRAISING FOR THE SCHOLARSHIPS?

>> WHAT A GREAT QUESTION. WE WANT SOMETHING CALLED THE ALL-STAR PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM.

WHEN I CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION SEVERAL WEEKS AGO WE OUTLINED OUR BUSINESS MODEL WAS KIND OF ANCHORED TO STRATEGIC PARTNERS.E WANT TO WORK. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME FROM THAT IS THE FERNANDINA TELEVISION STORES. BASICALLY IN EXCHANGE FOR OUR PARTNERSHIPS WE ARE ASKING FOR FUNDS FOR THE SCHOLARSHIP AND TO SUPPORT CLOSED CAPTIONING COSTS AS WELL AS MARKETING AND PROGRAMMING SUPPORT FROM THE STATION.

THERE ARE NO LIMITS TO THE TYPE OF STRATEGIC PARTNERS WE CAN BRING ABOUT.

FOR INSTANCE IF THE HOSPITAL LIKE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE STATISTICS OR INFORMATION AROUND THE CORONAVIRUS PARTNERS THAT CAN BE PARTNERSHIP.

WE'VE DONE THE WORK OF OUTLINING THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PARTNERS WE COULD REACH OUT TO IN WHICH A STATE-OF-THE-ART REACH SIGNING TO PARTNERS AND HOPEFULLY THREE OR FOUR MORE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. IN ADDITION TO THAT OUR BOARD AND INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVES OF GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE DIRECTLY TO THE SCHOLARSHIP OR TO JUST CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL GENERAL FIND FOR PROGRAMMING, CLOSE CAPTIONING SUPPORT AND THAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> THANK YOU SIR. WELL DONE. >> WE HAVE BEACH ACCESS

[4.4 BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE PRESENTATION]

>> PRESENTATION PERSON THAN SPEAKERS? >> YES THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

>> MISTER MAYOR WHILE THEY ARE HERE LET ME GO HEAD AND HAND A COPY OF THE ACTUAL REPORT.

AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO THINK MISRULE HAS FOR TAKING THE LEAD IN SERVING AS CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE WITH A BUNCH OF VOLUNTEERS. THEY SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE.

THE RESPONSE WAS WE HAD MORE VOLUNTEERS SEEK APPOINTMENT TO THE SPORT.

I THINK THE BOTTOM PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THEIR REPORT ON SOME COMMENTS AFTER MISS ROLLER

MAKES HER PRESENTATION. >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> MY NAME IS FOR TOY OR OPUS. 2161 S. FLETCHER AVENUE IN EDINA BEACH FLORIDA.

I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST IF YOU DON'T MIND INTRODUCED THE MEMBERS OF THE BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE WHO ARE WITH US TODAY. GOD AND INTRODUCED YOURSELF.

>> GOOD EVENING MAN AND CITY COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS VICTORIA ROBUST.

I'M VERY PLEASED TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SHARE THE BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS. TONIGHT IS MY PLEASURE TO BRING TO YOU OUR FINAL REPORT ON

RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BEACH ACCESS. >> IN NOVEMBER 2020 CAN YOU SEE THIS? MISTER MARTIN INFORMED BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE.

WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE AND BECAUSE HE GAVE US VERY SPECIFIC GOALS AS ANYONE WHO'S BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE KNOWS HAVING VERY SPECIFIC GOALS AND WHAT IS EXPECTED OF YOU TO PAY SITE DIVIDENDS. THE FIRST GOAL IS TO GET RECOMMENDATIONS.

WHICH OF THE SIX WALKOVER'S THAT WERE REMOVED IN 2019 SHOULD BE REBUILT?

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AND THEN THE THIRD IS TO ESTABLISH THE ORDER IN WHICH THE RECOMMENDED WALKOVER'S SHOULD BE FELT. AS WE GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER WE REALIZED THAT WE WERE A VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE. WE HAD DIFFERENT IDEAS WITH WHAT BEACH ACCESS MEANT AND WHAT THE BEACH NEED IN. THE ONE THING THAT WE REUNITED IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD EMPHASIZE HOW A GOOD DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE ON THE BEACH WALKOVER AND SUSTAINABLE BEACH ACCESS OR WALK-THROUGHS ARE REALLY IN TRICKLE TO THE CITY'S OVERALL ENVIRONMENTAL RESILIENCY. TO DO THAT WE HAD TO DEVELOP EVALUATION TOOLS WHICH ALLOWED US TO COMPARE THE VARIOUS VALUES, PRIORITIES AND PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT AS WE LOOK AT EACH OF THE BEACH ACCESS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD TO COME EARLY IN UNDERSTANDING WAS WE HAD TO LOOK AT THE BEACH ACCESS. EACH ONE OF THEM IS DIFFERENT AND WE DEVELOPED A LIST OF CRITERIA. 22 GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

WITH THAT WE WERE THEN ABLE TO GO OUT AND BECAUSE OF CHRONIC AS WE HAD INDIVIDUALLY GO OUT AND LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THE 57 BEACH ACCESS IS. WE GOT TO KNOW VERY WELL THE BEACH ACCESS IN THE CITY. TO DO THAT WE DEVELOPED A FORM. WE REALIZE THAT WE ARE FOREIGN PEOPLE. WE CREATED OUR EVALUATION FORM AND IN THIS EVALUATION FORM IS HELPFUL AS WE WENT THROUGH EACH ACCESS AND WE MADE OUR NOTATIONS.

THINGS LIKE WHAT IS THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THIS WALKOVER OR WALK THROUGH.

HOW EASY IS IT FOR US TO WALKOVER? AS A NORMAL PERSON OR SOMEONE THAT MAY BE IMPAIRED. WHAT ARE THE LOCATIONS OF RAMPS? IT IS A LONG ACCESS QUESTION WHAT DO WE KNOW THAT ON THE FORT NORTH AND THE ACCESS IS

FAIRLY SHORT. >> EITHER 88 PARKING'S? WHAT IS THE DENSITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? THE QUALITY AND QUANTITY OF TEA AND GROWTH.

AND THEN WE LOOK FOR OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT HELP US UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE AND USAGE OF EACH OF THESE PEACH ACCESSES. IN DOING THIS WE'VE GATHERED THIS INFORMATION NOW DO WE DO WITH IT? WE NEEDED SOME METRICS AND ANALYTICAL TOOLS TO HELP US SORT, ORGANIZE, PRIORITIZE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE SEND OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES THROUGH A PROCESS OF WEIGHING THE VALUES AND TO PRODUCE A NUMERIC SCORE. THIS NUMERIC SCORE ALLOWED US TO SORT THE BEACH ACCESS FROM HIGHEST TO LOWEST. FROM A VERY HIGH SCORE MEANS THAT IT ENCOMPASSES MANY OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED FOR THE COMMITTEE. THE NEXT THING WAS SOME OF THESE PEACH ACCESSES SHARE THE SAME SCORE. WE CREATED A VERY INTERESTING METHOD BY DIVIDING THE NUMBER OF 9-1-1 RESIDENTS PAY THE LINEAR DISTANCE TO A FORTUNE OF ACCESS THIS RESULTED IN A VALUE OF MATTRESSES FROM LINEAR FOOT OF BEACH ACCESS.

IT ALLOWS US TO SORT THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE. THE HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR REPORT FOR BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THATB SHOULD BE REMOVED AT THIS TIME.

THE WALKOVER IS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED ARE FOUR SHORT, MEDIUM AND LONG-TERM.

THERE WERE TWO ACCESSES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY UNKNOWN TO BE CITY PROPERTY AND SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE CITIES BEACH ACCESS INVENTORY THAT HAVE SIGNS MARKED ON THEM.

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WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT OVER TIME THE CITY TRANSITIONED TO WALKOVER'S WITH RAMPS WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY DID FOR THESE COLLECTORS ARE WALKING AROUND A WALKOVER.

IT CANNOT BE OVERSTATED AND IT IS CRITICAL TO THE SUPPORT OF GROWING FORTUNE AND ALSO THEN PROTECTS OUR HOMES AND CITY INFRASTRUCTURE. OUR SUMMER IS VERY SIMPLE.

WE'VE ANSWERED QUESTION NUMBER ONE AND WE ANSWERED QUESTION NUMBER TWO.

OUR SHORT-TERM WHICH IS 1 TO TWO YEARS WOULD BE SIX N. SIX N. HAS ARTIE RECEIVED A 60% GRANT FUNDING. THE SECOND ONE FOR SHORT-TERM IS ACCESS.

THERE ARE FOUR ACCESSES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING FOR MEDIUM-TERM AND THAT IS ACCESS 16, SIX, FOUR N. AND 35 S. 35 S. BEING THE AXIS THAT WE RECOMMENDED TO BE VAT ACCESSIBLE WALKOVER. THE LONG-TERM, THE MEDIUM-TERM IS FROM 3 TO 4 YEARS AFTER FOUR YEARS NEEDS TO BE REEVALUATED. I MAY OR MAY NOT NEED TO BE CONSTRUCTED OR MAY NEED TO BE PUSHED UP TO BE A HIGHER PRIORITY. IT'S JUST TO SAY A LONG-TERM NEEDS TO. IN THE SCOPE OF AFTER THAT FOR YOUR.

. I LIKE THIS CHART BECAUSE IT SHOWS THE COMPLEMENT OF THE CITIES BEACH ACCESS. IT STARTS ON THE NORTH ON 60 CLINICALS TO THE SOUTH WITH BEACH ACCESS NUMBER 40. THE HEAVY A WHILE ARROWS INDICATE THOSE PEACH ACCESSES WHICH ARE HEAVILY USED. WE'VE BEEN THERE. NORTH BEACH PARK, MAINE BEAST CHANCEY SAID PARKINSON'S. WHAT YOU SEE IN BLUE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE ARE MAKING TO BUILD NEW WALKOVER IS. THE FIRST ONE FROM THE NORTH WOULD BE SIX N. WHICH IS ALREADY IN PROCESS. SIX NEW YORK IN 16 CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE IT WALKOVER. THESE ARE ACCESSES THAT WERE ALWAYS WALK-THROUGHS.

WHAT WE FOUND IN OUR ANALYSIS IS THAT THE POPULATION HAD GROWN SO MUCH IN THAT AREA OF THE BEACH WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHAT WE CALL THE CONVENIENCE FACTOR LOOKING AT HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN THESE AREAS. THEY SCORED A VERY HIGH SCORE.

WE WERE QUITE SURPRISED. THIS WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD EXPECTED.

35 S. YOU SEE WHERE THAT IS LOCATED. WE BELIEVE THAT IS AN ADA ACCESSIBLE WALKOVER ON THE SOUTH END OF BEACH ACCESS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WE'VE DESCRIBED IN OUR REPORT WILL BE BELIEVE IT SHOULD INCLUDE IN SOME OF THE REALLY GOOD REASONS FOR WHY WE THINK AN ADA ACCESSIBLE WALKOVER ON THE SOUTH INVENTORY BEACH ACCESS IS IMPORTANT TO OUR CITIZENS. I'D PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TO DESCRIBE FOR YOU VERY MUCH BECAUSE IT IS THE FIRST CITY ACCESS NORTH OF THE COUNTY'S POINT. IF ANYBODY HAS BEEN IN THAT AREA DURING THE SUMMER YOU KNOW ONCE PETER'S POINT IS FULL, THEY ARE HEADING FOR 40 IN THE HEADING FOR 30 AND

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27 AND 38. AGAIN I'M SAYING THAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS AFTER FOUR YEARS IT CAN BE REEVALUATED. RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE MADE GENTLEMEN IT WAS IN OUR MUSCLE TIMES WITH THIS COMMITTEE. PTHERE ARE SOME PASSIONATE PEOPLE HERE.

I ALWAYS HAD TO BEAT THEM INTO SUBMISSION. IT WOULD BE USEFUL FOR THE CURRENT CITY COMMISSION AND FOR FUTURE COMMISSION MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY AS WELL AS PLANNERS.

WITH THAT WE CONCLUDE OUR PRESENTATION. >> AND I REALLY LOVE THE HATS.

>> ONE OF OUR MEMBERS BROUGHT THEM TO US SO THAT'S A GREAT SIGN THAT A TEAM IS BEEN

DEVELOPED. >> THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON.

THIS IS GREAT WORK. >> VICE MAYOR? >> I WANT TO COMPLEMENT HIM AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE SIGNIFICANT VALUE TO US AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND SEEMED TO BE CAPITAL APPROVED FOR NEXT YEAR. AS YOU KNOW IT SIX N. AND WE

HAD A NICE JOB WITH THIS. >> JUST SO YOU KNOW WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WHILE WE HAVE SET SHORT-TERM MEDIA AND LONG-TERM I WOULD TRY TO QUALIFY THAT. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THEIR BUDGET RESTRICTIONS. THERE'S TIMING OF GRANT FUNDING.

THERE ARE MANY KINDS OF THINGS THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN THE WAY THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING BUT CERTAINLY IT WOULD BE SOMETHING AS A BLUEPRINT GOING FORWARD TO ASSIST THE CITY COMMISSION.

>> I THINK YOU DONE A GREAT JOB AS WELL AS THE COMMITTEE. I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I SEE THESE NOMINAL ADDRESSES AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S ANALYTIC.

HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE? THE WAY WE SCORE? HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT PARTICULAR FUNCTION? IS THE FUNCTION OF TAKING THE SURVEY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHEN YOU GO FOR BEACH ACCESS? WE PROBABLY HAVE 40 OR 50 ITEMS THAT WE FINALLY PEERED DOWN. WE LOOKED AT EACH ONE OF THEM AND SAID WELL, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHERE THE GROUP FEELS ABOUT IT. WE DID A SURVEY.

EVERY ONE OF US TO THE SURVEY ON SURVEY MONKEY. THE RESULTS OF THAT IS BASED ON NOT IMPORTANT, SORT OF IMPORTANT, COULD BE IMPORTANT, VERY IMPORTANT AND WE HAVE TO HAVE IT. WE RANK THAT WITH NUMBERS AND THEN YOU ARE ABLE TO GET A WEIGHTED RESPONSE. FROM THAT WE DID RESPONSE WE APPLIED EACH ONE OF THOSE

GUIDING PRINCIPLES TO THE BEACH ACCESS. >> ON MY OTHER QUESTION IS SIMMONS ROAD, YOU HAVE THAT HIGHLIGHTED UP THERE. AND BETWEEN THOSE IS PETER'S POINT WHICH IS THE COUNTY. YOU SEND SOMETHING ABOUT THERE BEING HANDICAPPED ACCESS.

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>> I WAS MAN IN QUESTION. IT KIND OF ANALYZES IT FOR ME. >> IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ONE OF THAT YOU JUST RECEIVED A REPORT TONIGHT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US WILL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO MEET WITH YOU AND ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT. >> I'VE BEEN SAYING APPEAR BEFORE YOUR COMMITTEE REPORT THERE WAS DISAGREEMENT ON HOW TO PROCEED.

BY VARIOUS COMMISSIONERS AND VARIOUS OPINIONS ON WHAT WALKOVER'S ADDRESS.

YOUR COMMITTEE WAS FORMED TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU DELIVER. RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW YOU SHOULD PROCEED. YOU ARE COMPLEMENTED FIRST FOR THE TIME, EFFORT AND PATIENCE THAT YOU PUT INTO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE THOUGHTFULNESS.

IT'S VERY METHODICAL AND VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT. NOW WE HAVE A SCHEMATIC OF HOW TO PROCEED. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS.

>> IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS SO THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO STAY YOU CAN HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IF THERE IS A QUESTION YOU WILL BE HERE TO

ANSWER THEM. >> MANCHILD OVERTON SQUARE IN QUESTION WERE.

>> MISTER MARTIN DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE WENT TO COMMENTS?

>> YOU HAVE THE REPORT AND WE ASK THAT YOU SHARE THAT AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. WE POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND SOLICIT PUBLIC FEEDBACK OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT MONTH AND THIS WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU ON THE MEETING TO MEETING TO BE OFFICIALLY ADOPTED BY USE OF CITY COMMISSION AND ACCEPT RECOMMENDATIONS SO PLEASE SHARE AND SOLICIT COMMENTS. BEFORE YOUR FURTHER

CONSIDERATION MAINTAIN. THANK YOU. >> AND SAMANTHA SCHMIDT PLEASE

COME FORWARD. >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> MATT MORRIS A 21 PROXY. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THERE LIKE WILD HORSES IN CONTROL.

THIS WOMAN KEPT US GOING AND KEPT US IN LINE. THE MAJOR SEATS THAT WERE CREATED WERE DESIGNED TO TAKE THE EMOTION OUT OF WHAT OUR PROCESS WAS.

AND TO GIVE IT SOMETHING YOU CAN MEASURE. WE KNEW IT WOULD BE AN EMOTIONAL THING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMING WEEKS. THANK YOU MISTER MAYOR.

>> PUBLIC, ON ITEM 4.4. GLORIA SLAUGHTER? .

WELCOME AND IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MAGIC MASK OFF.

>> NO MA'AM. >> MY NAME IS LORI SLAUGHTER. 2697 ALLEN STREET AND

FERNANDINA BEACH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR LISTING TO ME. I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO COMMENT.

SPOKE TO THE BEACH ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON THURSDAY SAID THEY HEARD MY SHORT REMARKS AND I AM HERE TO REPRESENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS EXODUS 27.

JUST HEARD THAT THAT IS TO BE RECOMMENDED TO BE LOOKED AT AND EVALUATED IF THERE IS BUDGET IN FOUR YEARS. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S A LIABILITY TO THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME ISSUE. THAT AXIS HAS STAND FOR OR 5 INCHES DEEP IN THE IS ROOTED IN THE TWO YEARS THAT IT'S BEEN GONE. IT WAS A LESSON ON ONE SITUATION AND INDIVIDUALLY CANNOT PHYSICALLY GET OUT OF THE BEACH ACCESS.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM SOME OF THE PICTURES THEY ARE KIND OF LEANING AND IF YOU START TO FOLLOW IT'S JUST NOT SAFE. AS A TAXPAYER I TRUST THE GOVERNMENT TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS A PLAN AND THAT IT WOULD BE TAKING CARE OF.

IT'S NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF TO MY SATISFACTION. ANOTHER IS A WAY TO SCORE BUT I

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FROM SEASIDE PARK THEY COME IN FILTHY ACCESS AND 27 IS CONSTANTLY BELT.

I CAN'T PHYSICALLY WALK TO THE ACCESS. I HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES AS A RESIDENT I MUST GO ON MY CAR AND DRIVE TO ANOTHER BEACH ACCESS TO USE THE BEACH. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING AT ONCE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. AND BY EACH ONE OF YOU TO GO TO YOUR ACCESS AND WALK IT YOURSELF. SEE IF TO YOU IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. PLEASE DO THAT. FOUR YEARS FROM NOW IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE THING TO ME. I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE YOU SERIOUSLY LOOKING AT THAT ACCESS. I THINK IT IS A DANGER I THINK IT'S A LIABILITY FOR THE CITY.

>> CITY MANAGER, IF YOU CAN ANSWER A QUESTION FOR ME PLEASE.

WHEN WE HAVE A CITIZEN COMING FORWARD AND DESCRIBE A WALKOVER WITH A SAFETY ISSUE OR

LIABILITY, HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT? >> WHO HAS STAFF REVIEW THE SITUATION AND MAKE AN ASSESSMENT OF. MUCH LIKE THE VOICE MAN POINTED OUT. THEY EXAMINE THE WALKOVER AS PART OF THE PROCESS.

WITH HAS STAFF DISCUSS IT. >> OF ANNUAL DISCUSS IT WITH US.

>> BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. >> WE WILL REVERT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND DO A SAFETY

ASSESSMENT OF THE WILL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> IN YOUR COMMENT?

>> COLLEEN MASTERSON? WILL COME IN. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. >> WOMAN: COLLEEN S PERCENT. 2700 OCEAN DRIVE.

JUST DOWNHILL FROM DOING MACH NUMBER 27. A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM LORI. I WALKED THE EIGHT. I COULDN'T FIND WHERE THE 22 GUIDING PRINCIPLES OR CRITERIA ARE. I DESPERATELY TRIED TO FIND SOME KIND OF REALITY TO HOW THEY GOT TO THE NUMBER THEY GOT TO.

EACH ONE OF THEM I TOOK NOTES AND PICTURES ON. I USE OURS DAILY.

I'M REALLY FIT AND I'M OLDER BUT I'M REALLY FIT. I CAN MANEUVER 27.

I'VE DEFINITELY PULLED ELDERLY PEOPLE OUT OF 27. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THE STAND SLIDES DOWN WITH YOU. AND WHEN YOU'RE GOING UP YOU ARE PULLING IT BACK DOWN.

THE PILLARS THAT ONCE WERE THERE WERE SHORT AND THEY WEREN'T STEEP.

27 HAS A LARGE OPEN AREA SO THAT THE ARMS AS MUCH OF CONSIDERATION FOR THE WAS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT SOME OF THE SCORES PARTICULAR 38 AND 35 US.

THOSE THREE. THEY ARE THE STEEPEST ONES THAT ARE HARD TO MANEUVER.

EVEN FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S IN GOOD SHAPE. I REALIZE SOMETHING AS I DID RESEARCH. 22 GUIDING PRINCIPLES IS HARD TO MANAGE.

WITH FIVE SUBJECT IS FORCED TO ACCEPT EACH ONE. >> THE MOST THAT WENT AND SHOWS PEOPLE HAD SAID STORIES. ONE WAS A GENTLEMAN WITH A HIP REPLACEMENT AND THE OTHER WAS

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TRYING TO GATHER HOW WE DO THIS. >> I WOULD SAY YOU CAN REST AND SIMPLE. YOU CAN FIND HER OWN ANSWER BY WALKING US.

IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT. >> THANK YOU ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU MA'AM THANK YOU FOR

YOUR CAUSE. >> I CANNOT READ THE FIRST NAME ON THE SUIT EITHER MISTER

OR MISS SHARP. >> IT'S MISTER. IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> METAL SHOP AT 130 NINTH STREET PRINTING A BEACH.

SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED IS THE WORKSHOP BUT THE GATE AND ACCESS.

I THINK THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES OR DEPARTMENT. IF YOU ARE ABLE TO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH GEORGE TO PROVIDE POWER THERE TO FIND LIKE IT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GET IT FROM THE CIRCLE. THE OTHER OPTION IS OUR PLACE APARTMENT IS ON DUTY 24 HOURS A DAY SO DOESN'T HAVE TO OPEN RIGHT AT 6:00.IT COULD BE OPEN BETWEEN 4:00 AND 6:00 POLICE OFFICER THERE. WE ARE TO PAPER SIZE IS TOO GREAT JOB.

I WANT TO REMIND STAFF THAT WE ACTUALLY DO SAFETY INSPECTIONS. WE HAVE THE DATA AND THE KIND

OF SEMINARY BEYOND THAT. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR

EFFORTS AND YOUR WORK. WELL DONE. >> 4.5 THE BUDGET CEREMONY.

[4.5 BUDGET SUMMARY]

>> WE CAN ALLOW OUR CONTROLLERS TO DISCUSS. >> GOOD EVENING.

MARCH IS THE SIX-MONTH OF REPRESENT 60% OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

REVENUE IS AT 78.9% FOR THE ANNUAL BUDGET. THIS IS DUE PRIMARILY TO PROPERTY TAX, LOCAL BUSINESS TAX AND GOVERNMENTAL RECEIPTS. FUND EXPENSES ARE BELOW THE 50% MARK. FOR SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS THE MONTH OF MARCH IS THE FIRST MONTH AT THE GOLF COURSE IS MANAGED BY THE CITY. MARGINS HAVE INCREASED.

UTILITY FUND REVENUES ARE EXCEEDING EXPENSES IN THE MARINA CONTINUES TO WORK ON THE

FIELD LINES. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER ROSS? I JUST HAVE A COMMON I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY NUMBERS ARE RIGHT.

ABOUT A YEAR AGO I GOT AN EMAIL THAT SAID COMMISSIONER ROSS, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THE CITY SPENDS PER CAPITA WHICH MEANS THE MONEY THAT WE SPENT ON EACH CITIZEN HAS MUSHROOMED IN THREE YEARS UNDER THE CURRENT REGIME. PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHY. WE TOOK THE TOTAL POPULATION AND CAME UP HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING PER CITIZEN. HE NOTICES FROM 10 YEARS AGO WE'RE SPENDING LESS NOW THAN WE DID 10 YEARS AGO. I THINK THAT'S SHOWING GOOD.

WHEN PEOPLE THINK SENSES ARE OUT OF CONTROL WE SAY THAT THERE ARE IN LINE WITH WHAT

THEY WERE 10 YEARS AGO. >> I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. I THINK EVERYONE HERE IS INTERESTED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF CHOP TRACER. FROM MY SEAT IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO TELL HOW TRACERS CAN PERFORM THIS THEIR NUMBERS ARE INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL GOLF ENTERPRISE.

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SEE COSTS AND REVENUE. >> SURE, WE CAN DO THAT. I REALIZE IT HAS BEEN OPEN THE MONDAY YOU. GOING FOR IF WE CAN GAUGE HOW THAT IS DOING IT WILL BE

TERRIFIC. >> MY SECOND QUESTION IS I'M SURE COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO RECEIVE FEDERAL RESCUE FUNDS. $5.5 MILLION.

WHEN COMMISSIONER ROSS IS HOW WE CAN PAY FOR THINGS THAT MIGHT BE FOR SOME THINGS.

WHAT IS NOT CLEAR IS THE QUESTION BEFORE US. WHAT CAN WE USE, WHAT TYPES OF THINGS CAN WE USED TO HAVE $5.5 MILLION SO AT SOME POINT WE CAN GET THAT EXPLANATION TO HELP US

HERE ARE BUDGETING THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC. >> WHEN WE EXPECTING THOSE

FUNDS? DO YOU KNOW? >> WOMAN: TREASURY AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO SOME GUIDANCE AND THEY HAD 60 DAYS TO DISTRIBUTE THE FIRST HALF OF THEIR FUNDS. HOWEVER THERE IS SOME COMMUNICATION THAT WE ARE NOT SURE IS AGAIN ATTEMPTED STATE? IS IT TO COME THROUGH OTHER MEANS? WE REALLY NOT SURE IT COULD TAKE ANOTHER 30 OR 60 DAYS AFTER THAT.

>> THE GUIDANCE IS A LITTLE BIT VAGUE ON WHAT THEY SPEND THE MONEY FOR WE HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE IS IT FOR SAY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR WATER AND SEWER OR CAN WE USE IT ON OTHER ITEMS THAT MAY BE GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN WE TRANSFER FOR CAPITAL

IMPROVEMENTS. >> AT 5.5 MILLION ARE YOU SURE THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN?T'S

A FUZZY NUMBER IS NOT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS? >>> WHEN RETURNING PAGE. WE ARE ON ITEM 5 WHICH IS

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA (Part 1 of 2)]

MINUTES? >> ONE SHOT IN THREE MINUTES. >> BECAUSE OF A PERSON THAT IS THE FILLED OUT THE FORM TWICE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER TWO DIFFERENT SUBJECTS BUT MISS

JULIE CARRERA. >> WE'VE APPLIED THAT'S IF YOU WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE PLANNING SOME TYPE OF PRESIDENT FOR RULES WE'VE DONE NOT IN YOU SAID YOU HAVE TO COVER YOUR

TOPICS. >> AS I'M ASKING YOU. >> WILL COME IF YOU CAN STATE

YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? >> RACING THAT YOU FILL THAT ONE TWICE.

>> I DO HAVE TWO FORMS FOR YOU . >> ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA ON

THE ITEMS IN THE GENDER YOU CAN HAVE TWO SEPARATE. >> THANK YOU DENNIS AND MY

CONFUSION. >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SEE TONIGHT MY NAME IS JULIE FOR A 501 DATE STREET. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT LIGHTING.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY COUNSEL PROCEDURES ARE THAT MULTIMEDIA PRESENTATIONS HISTORY RECEIVED BY THE CITY BY FRIDAY BEFORE CITY COMMISSION MEETING. OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED

BY THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE. >> SIA PO BOX I'M HERE TO TALK TO ABOUT LIGHTING SPOKEN WITH FEW OF YOU ABOUT THIS. LAST WEEK THE STREETLIGHT ON MY CORNER WAS REPLACED WITH AN UPGRADED LED LIGHT. BEYOND THAT MISTER USED TO BE NICE AND GOLDEN AND GLOWING AND NOW. IS A LITTLE BIT OFF AND IT'S AWFUL. IT LOOKS LIKE A FOOTBALL STADIUM.

IT WAS HARD TO SEE THE STARS PBEFORE BUT NOW IT'S REALLY IMPOSSIBLE YOU CAN EVEN LOOK AT THE LIGHT. THE FP WORKER THAT REPLACED IT SAID THAT IT WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE THE OLD FIXTURE WAS STARTING TO CORRODE. HE SAID THAT WE CAN EXPECT TO

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IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE AMBIENCE AND WHAT WE WANT FERNANDINA TO LOOK LIKE.

GOING DOWN THAT WAS AS NICE SCHOOL THAT PULLED YOU TO THE BEACH.

WERE SETTING TO GET A MIX MATCH OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF LIGHTS AND FIXTURES THAT ARE BEING REPLACED. SOME OF THEM ARE BRIGHT WHITE AND KIND OF A SICKLY YELLOW-GREEN. I'M CONCERNED THAT AS FIELD FIXTURES LOSE THEIR VIABILITY I WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN FERNANDINA AS WE WILL TURN OUR CITY INTO A FOOTBALL STADIUM WE WANT THINGS TO BE CONSISTENT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY SAVE ELECTRICITY.

I'M AFRAID THAT IF FP WAS LEFT TO THEIR OWN DEVICES THEY WILL PUT UP WHAT'S CHEAPEST FOR THEM. WE WILL JUST HAVE THIS, I THINK OF ANOTHER WORD BESIDES MISHMASH BUT ANYWAY, WHEN I WAS DONE AT THE BEACH I WAS DRIVING AROUND LOOKING AT STREETLIGHTS.

THERE'S A STREETLIGHT THAT'S EXTREMELY BRIGHT. IT'S NOT THE LEAST BIT TURTLE FRIENDLY. HAVE A BLOCK DOWN ON TARPON TO THE SOUTH THERE IS A LIGHT THAT IS TURTLE FRIENDLY. THERE IS LIGHT AT THE CORNER WITH THE BASKETBALL COURT IS DONE ON TARPON. IT HAS REALLY NICE LOOKS TO IT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LED BUT IF WE CAN REPLACE OUR LIGHTS WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT IT WOULD BE ADDING TO THE AMBIENCE OF OUR TOWN. THE INTERESTING THING IS IF YOU WORKER TOLD ME THAT.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM. SO TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. VICE MAYOR JUST BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND. WHAT IS THE CITY'S AUTHORITY FOR STANDING WITH FPU IN REGARD

TO INSTALLATION STREETLIGHTS IN THE CITY? >> TO THE CITY MANAGER CITY

ATTORNEY WALK ME THROUGH THAT? >> GOOD TIMING THEY SHOULD ASK THAT QUESTION.

FPU HAS APPROACHED THE CITY MANAGER AND I ABOUT MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN COVER THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH. ANY OF THE PUBLIC STREETLIGHTS THAT ARE IN THE CITY MEANING IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY ARE PAID FOR HAVE A RENTAL FEE WITH THE POLE AND ELECTRICITY CHARGES. I'M SURE THEY HAVE A POLICY ABOUT BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY BEEN TOLD THAT THEOLOGY IS MUCH MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AND SYSTEM LIGHT SOURCE BUT I ASSUME THAT THE NUMBER OF COLORS JUST LIKE THEY DO FOR THE CHRISTMAS TREE FOR EXAMPLE.

WE CAN INQUIRE ABOUT THAT AND MAYBE PUT SOMETHING IN THE FRANCHISE WHICH YOU GUYS SHOULD

SEE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. >> IN MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION AS , FIRST DO WE HAVE OR DO I NEED TO DETERMINE THE STANDARD LIGHT THAT WE WANT TO HAVE IN OUR CITY TO KEEP ITS OWN BANDS? WE KNOW ANYONE THAT KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT LED LIGHTING, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF SHADES.

I SAW THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT YOU POSTED THIS FOREVER. YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT WENT FROM A GENTLE SIDELIGHT GLOW TO THE SPRAY IF YOU LOOK ABOVE US COMMISSIONERS THE SPRIGHTLY HERE. IT TOTALLY CHANGED THE NATURE OF HER CORNER.

AS SHE DESCRIBES THERE SEEMS TO BE A CORNUCOPIA OF DIFFERENT LIGHTS NOW BEING INSTALLED IN THE CITY. IN AN EFFORT IS ITSELF IS WRONG.

IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH FPU DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A MASTER PLAN FOR THE LOOK AND FEELS OF OUR CITY.

I THINK WHAT I'M ASKING THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY IS TO MEET WITH FPU AND LET'S GET THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT. LET'S GET IT RECTIFIED. SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE FOOTBALL

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STADIUM CITY. >> VICE MAYOR? >> THE WAY STREETLIGHTS WORK IS THERE IS A TERRORIST IS PUBLISHED AND ENSURE THAT WE CAN PULL UP FPU AND SEE WHAT THAT TERRACE IS. WE WENT THE POLE, WE WENT TO LIGHT AND THEY REPLACE THE LIGHT. WE SHOULD BE PICKING THE LIGHT. EIGHT OR NINE YEARS AGO THEY TESTED SOME LEDS THAT ARE ON ATLANTIC AVENUE AND THE SUDDEN THEY ARE COMING IN AND I'VE BEEN TOLD PREVIOUSLY THAT THE TURF DID NOT ALLOW THEM WITH THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION OR TELL THEM DO IT. WE ARE IN A REPLACEMENT CYCLE AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN TO ASK US AND WE MAY HAVE BEEN REMISS IN NOT CATCHING IT BEFORE NOW.

WE SHOULD PICK THE LIGHTS, WE SHOULD PICK THE POLLS AND BEFORE LED EVERYTHING WAS ONLY 13%. YOU CAN PICK THE HEIGHT OF THE POLE AND YOU CAN PICK CONCRETE POLES. THERE REALLY IS NOTHING TO DO WITH FRAMES.

IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TARIFF THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT GET AHEAD OF IT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY. THE CITY MANAGER I TALKED TO SAYS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING INTO IT BUT WE NEED TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE TURF IS AND WE NEED TO START DIRECTING FPU AND NOT ALLOWING THEM TO COME IN. I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REDUCING WATTAGE WITH THE JULIE! LET'S SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE. TO THE OTHER POINT, YOU GET ON-. YOU REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM. WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE AND THERE'S A NEW DRAFT THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT. THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS AND THAT'S THE DARK SKY. THAT'S A WHOLE.

IT'S OUR CHOICE TO TELL THEM. >> I WOULDN'T DISPUTE THAT. THE GOOD NEWS IS AT LEAST IN MY TIME HERE AND I THINK THE SEAGRAM MANAGER WOULD AGREE, IF YOU HAS BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH. WHEN THEY ASKED THEY DELIVER. E HAVE NOT ASKED AND WE HAVE NOT INQUIRED ABOUT A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR STREETLIGHTING BUT WE WILL NOW.

QUICK THINKING. I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY MAKE THE STATEMENT THAT ANYONE IS NEAR THE OCEAN AND REQUIRES TO TURN ON THE LIGHT WE SHOULD BE CONVERTING TO THE EXTERNAL LIGHTS. I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE ECO-FRIENDLY ECO-FRIENDLY AND ENSURE THAT WE CAN PICK AN LED LIGHT AS A CITY STANDARD AND GET THE RIGHT IN THE RIGHT LOOK FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING OR. I THINK THAT'S AN EASY PROBLEM TO FIX.

>> CITY MANAGER, WHAT IS OUR PLAN FOR THE LIGHTING LOOK OF THE CITY AND WORKING WITH FPU

TO IMPLEMENT THAT LIGHTING? >> I WILL RAISE THE ISSUE. I HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING WITH THE GOVERNOR AFFAIRS OFFICER. I'LL RAISE THE ISSUE WITH HIM AND ASK HIM WHAT THE CATALOG OF OUR OPTIONS ARE. I'LL BRING THEM TO YOU AND GO FROM THERE.

>> GREAT THANK YOU SIR. >> CAN I SAY ONE WITHIN. >> NO MA'AM.

[6.1 FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT - TEAM FERNANDINA STINGRAYS]

>> WE ARE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM 6. THERE'S ONLY ONE ITEM.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON 6.1? >> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL IT OFF.

>> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PULLING OFF. >> I SECOND THE PULLING IT

OFF. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU CIRCLE HAD.

I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR APPROVAL OF THIS FESTIVAL IS FOR THIS. HOWEVER, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO FUND THE PROGRAM NUMBERS OTHER PROGRAMS. THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT WHICH I READ IN ITS ENTIRETY WAS WITH THE STINGRAYS WHICH IS A GREAT SWIMMING TEAM AND IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. IT'S A SIMILAR AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAVE AT THE HOUSE LAWN CLUB AT THE MLK POOL. IT'S ALSO GOOD ORGANIZATION.

WE CHARGE $25 AN HOUR FOR THE TIME. THE $25 DOES NOT COVER THE COST OF THE POOL. THERE'S NO CHARGE FOR THE USE OF THE REST OF THE FACILITIES.

THE CITY IS ALSO PUTTING AGREEMENTS WITH THE SOCCER CLUB WITH THE FERNANDINA POPCORN ASSOCIATION AND THE BABE RUTH LEAGUE AND THE ON STREET FOR THE LEAK.

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HOWEVER THE POOLS AND PLAYING FIELDS ARE USED EITHER FOR FREE AT HIGHLY SUBSIDIZED ARRANGEMENT FOR THE COST OF CHEMICALS, ELECTRICITY AND CLEANING SUPPLIES, FERTILIZERS, AND THE MOWERS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES THAT MAINTAIN HIS RECREATIONAL FACILITIES GOES UP EVERY YEAR. THE COST TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURES ARE GETTING OLDER, THEY ARE COSTING MORE MORE YEAR TO REPAIR. THAT GOES UP EVERY YEAR.

>> WILL BE MEETING WITH THE COUNTY ON THE 27TH AND 25 MAY SO WE WILL ADJUST THIS MORE.

REMEMBER, WENT TO THE COUNTY WITH A REQUEST THAT LIFE IS NOT THE BEST REQUEST THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AND HAVE THEM SHARE AND THERE WOULD BE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN CITY AND COUNTY. THE COUNTY WOULD SHARE A RECIPE RECREATIONAL FACILITY.

THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO SOME OF IT. YOU CAN BUST.

SOME OF THESE FACILITIES, COUNTIES AND CITIES. I HAVE THE STATUS I PRESENTED

BEFORE BUT THAT WILL COME NEXT. AND GOD COMMISSION ABOUT T CNX. >> THANK YOU MISTER MAYOR.

FIRST ACCEPTABLEE AND FOR ME IT'S OKAY TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FINANCING AND ACTIVITIES. I'LL BE PART OF WHAT I DO TO MAKE SURE THAT EITHER LEAKS ARE WELL-FUNDED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP DOING THAT.

AS A FORMER SOCCER LEAGUE PLAYER MYSELF WE CAN TELL FOR SURE HOW MUCH CITY RESIDENTS AND COUNTY RESIDENTS ARE USING THIS OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD CASE FILLING ME WITH THE COUNTY COMING UP. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. THAT'S HOW I'M THINKING ABOUT IT IN MY HEAD BUT OTHERWISE I'M FINE WITH THE STATUS QUO AS OF RIGHT NOW.

I'M LOOKING FOR TO THE STINGRAYS USING THE POOL ONCE AGAIN.

>> BRIEFLY TO SAY I'M IN SUPPORT OF OUR YOUTH PROGRAMS. I THINK THEY ARE A BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND YES WE JUST NEED TO FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT IT.

ULTIMATELY THE EXPENSES TO KEEP GOING UP AND IS EXPENSIVE TO FIX.

THEY ARE IN NEED OF IT AND I THINK THAT THOSE FIELDS ARE GETTING USED.

I WANT TO ON AFTERNOON BASIS NOW. AS A FORMER LITTLE LEAGUE PLAYER IN THE STINGRAY IN THESE OTHER THINGS I'VE BEEN THERE AND ENJOY YOUR FACILITIES I

THINK IT'S A BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY. >> FINALLY I WILL WEIGH IN.

I AM LESS THAN A. ONCE AGAIN I WILL SAY IS NOT A STRATEGY. WE CAN HOPE THE COUNTY WILL SAY OH YEAH, CITY OF FERNANDINA YEAH WE REALIZE THE PARTICIPANTS WE HAD THE USER

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THE REALITY IS THAT'S A PIPE DREAM. COMMISSIONER BELL AND I HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ON THIS IS ANTI-COMMISSIONER BELL. THAT'S THE REALITY.

WE SENT THEM A LETTER. THEY'RE NOT EVEN WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THE DISCUSSION.

WE HAVE TO TAKE A DIFFERENT AVENUE. OUR MEMBER THE SIZE HE PROVIDED TO US. I WAS RATHER SHOCKED THAT THE COUNTY PARTICIPATION IS 50, 6070% BUT SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS. WE OWE IT TO OUR TAXPAYERS IF WE WANT TO GO TO A ROLE THAT RATE TO HAVE THE COUNTY PAY FOR THE CITY FACILITIES AND PROGRAMS THAT THEY PARTICIPATE IN. THAT SHOULD NOT BE BURDEN ON OUR TAXPAYER.

WE CAN MEET BUT I DON'T HAVE HIGH HOPES THAT THAT WILL GO ANYWHERE.

IN PREPARATION FOR OUR BUDGET I WOULD SUGGEST YOU LOOK AT FEATS.

WITH THE COUNTY PARTICIPATION AND FIGURE OUT AWAY TO HAVE THE COUNTY PAY.

THAT'S MY TWO CENTS. >> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT WHEN I WENT TO THE COUNTY WE'RE ASKING FOR $500,000 AND THEY ASKED WHAT FOR. WE DID HAVE A VALID ANSWER WITH ANY DATA. LET'S GET THE DATA AND SHOW THEM THE BENEFIT THAT THE COUNTIES IN WORKING ON. LET'S DO IT RIGHT AND GET THE DATA.

I WAS IN THEIRS FOR THAT MEETING. WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE DATA AND THAT WAS THE FIRST THING I ASKED. FOUR.

>> THAT'S OBJECTIVELY SHOW THEM WHAT FOR AN ESTIMATE THEY WILL SUPPORT US.

>> WHAT I'M HEARING IS OUR STRATEGY TO FUND THESE DEFICITS AND GET THE COUNTY TO FUND

THEM. >> THAT'S PART OF IT. >> I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO IT FOR MY NEXT THOUGHT WOULD BE IF THE COUNTY IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IS GOOD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCLUDE FEES FOR NON-CITY RESIDENTS. AS A SOCCER PLAYER MYSELF THEY PAY INDIVIDUALLY SO WE COULD FIGURE THAT OUT I WE WOULD DO THAT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON 6.1? MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> WE MOTION TO APPROVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> SEEING NANCY QUICKLY PLEASE

CALL ABOUT. >>.

>>. >> THAT PASSES OUT TO ZERO. I SEE THE TIME IT IS 7:33 PM.

WE ARE GOING TO RECESS FOR LET'S GO TO 7:40 PM. THAT WILL GIVE YOU NINE

[7.1 MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT - TENNESSEE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD]

. >>> WE ARE NOW IN SESSION. RESOLUTION ITEM 7.1.

MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT OF TENNESSEE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD. >> THANK YOU.

THIS IS FROM FOR FOUR YEARS OF OPERATIONS DURING THE WEEKEND WHICH IS THE UNIT THAT QUICKLY SUPPORTS US FOR THE NATIONAL GUARD UNIT AND EFFECTUALLY THIS YEAR IN SOMALIA.

CORK RECOMMEND APPROVAL.> SECOND HAVE THE MOTION OF THE SECOND ATTORNEY DISCUSSION OF

THE? >> IT QUICKLY PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>>.

>> I SAW A LOT OF MILITARY PUBLIC HELICOPTERS AT THE AIRPORT CAN YOU JUST INFORM US

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WITH THAT WAS ABOUT? >> IRONICALLY ASKED THE AIRPORT MANAGER THE SAME QUESTION BECAUSE I SAW THEM FLYING AROUND. MISTER CORLISS ANYTHING OR IF

IT WAS A STANDARD. >> THE STANDARD TRAINING. THERE WAS NOTHING SPECIFICALLY

[7.2 FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT - BONHAMS & BUTTERFIELDS AUCTIONEER CORPORATION]

>> IS ALSO RELATED TO THE CONCORDE. THIS IS THE AUCTION THAT IS CONDUCTED WITH LARGE WHITE TENTS ON THE GOLF COURSE. WHEN CLOSING THE RUNWAY 927 WHICH IS THE EAST-WEST RUNWAY. THE BOTTOM WILL BE THERE IN THE FEE FOR THIS ACOUSTICAL CHORUS

AND AIRPORT FUND IS $9000. >> REMOVED TO IMPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON 7.2?

SEEING NONE CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL ABOUT. >>.

[7.3 AWARD OF BID # 2021-01 - SCHERER CONSTRUCTION OF NORTH FLORIDA, LLC.]

>> THE CITY HAS RECEIVED A GRANT TO CONSTRUCT NEW HANGERS OF AIRPORT WE DO DO A REQUEST FOR BIDS AND UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO AN OVERSIGHT THE LOW BIDDER WITHDREW THEIR APPLICATION SO THIS IS TO REPORT FOR THE SECOND BETTER WITH AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED ROUGHLY $1.16

MILLION. >> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL.> I SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER ROSS YOUR

QUESTION. >> I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THIS. THIS CAN COME FROM THE AIRPORT FUND. NO MANY LOCALS FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO FUND THIS.

>> 50% MATCH WILL COME STRICKEN FROM AIRPORT FUND WHICH TAKES THE CITY DOLLARS.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> SEEING NONE CITY QUICKLY PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>>.

[7.4 TASK ORDER # 3 - HANSON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES INC.]

ZERO. >> ITEM 7.4 TASK ORDER NUMBER THREE, HANSEN PROFESSIONAL

SERVICES INC. >> THIS IS A TASK ORDER FOR HANSEN AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO OVERSEE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HANGER DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU JUST APPROVED IN AN AMOUNT OF $629,000. AGAIN FUNDED THROUGH THE

AIRPORT FUND AND FDO TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. >> I RECOMEND TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> OF EMOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ON 7.4?

>> BUT THEY CAN TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE HELICOPTERS OR IS THAT THE INCIDENT?

>> I THINK THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE ANSWER. THERE IS NOTHING BENEFICIAL.

HEY'RE JUST FLYING AROUND. >> SEAHAWKS MAY BE. >> ANY OF THE DISCUSSIONS?

>> MADAM QUICKLY PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER WIEN.

>> VICE PRESIDENT> . >>.

[7.5 RAILROAD SAFETY PROJECTS]

THE MOTION PASSED 5 TO 0. 7.5 RAILROAD SAFETY PROJECTS. >> THIS IS THE CITY SIGNATORY TO AN AGREEMENT PRINCIPALLY EEN THE TY AND STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS WELL AS THE RAILROAD WHICH IS THE SHORT LINE ERATOR THE STATE WILL PROVIDE E REIMBURSEMENT FOR APPROXIMATELY $700,000. IT WILL IMPROVE SIGNAL CIVILIZATION AT THE CORNERS OF ASHEN PREP STREET AS WELL AS CENTER AND FRONT STREET. THE FINANCIAL BURDEN FOR THE CITY WILL BE APPROXIMATELY $5000 PER YEAR AND SIGNAL MEANS COSTS.

>> I HAVE EMOTION? >> AND MOTION. >> A SECOND.

>> WITH EMOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE. THAT 7.5 A DISCUSSION?

VICE MAYOR? >> THE CICITY FUNDING NOTHING BUT THE MAINTENANCE?

I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT COMING OUT OF THE STREET FUND. >> THE CITY RELATED TO THE PARK CITY WILL HAVE TO MAKE SOME STREET IMPROVEMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE DUE SIGNALS.

THEY'LL BE ABOUT 300 AND SOME DOLLARS. >> BASED ON THE CITY'S ESTIMATE IS ABOUT $80,000. THE SIGNAL COST IS ROUGHLY $340,000 FOR EACH INTERSECTION

IS BORNE SOLELY BY THE STATE. >> ANY OF THIS DISCUSSION. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION,

TIMELINE ON WHEN THIS PROJECT WILL BE DONE? >> WE ARE WAITING FOR THE RAILROAD TO FINISH FINALIZING THE DESIGN COST BUT THE HOPE IS THAT IT WILL BE DONE THIS

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SUMMER. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> MADAM QUICKLY PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> WAY AROUND THE ORDINANCE AGAIN READING IDA MAE .1. THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

[8.1 NOISE]

>> I WILL READ THE TITLE MISTER MAYOR. ORDINANCE 2021 Ã14 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER 42 ARTICLE 5 NOISE BY REVIEWING SECTIONS 42, 141, 42 TO 142, 42 144, 42 145 AND 42 148.

REMEMBERING SECTIONS REGARDING PURPOSE AND SCOPE RESPONSIBILITY FOR COMPLIANCE ENFORCEMENT, FINES AND ADMINISTERED OF POLICIES. CREATING NEW SECTION 42 Ã151, NOISE TERMINOLOGY AND STANDARDS, CREATING NEW SECTION 42 Ã152, MAXIMUM PERMISSIBLE SOUNDS.REATING NEW SECTION 142 Ã153 SPECIFIC PROHIBITION REGARDING NOISE.

CREATING NEW SECTION 42 Ã154, METHOD OF SOUND LEVEL MEASUREMENT, CREATING SECTION 42 Ã155 EXEMPT NOISES CREATING NEW SECTION 42 Ã157 ENFORCER RESPONSIBILITY.

CREATING NEW SECTION 42 Ã160 VARIANCES PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I SUBMIT TO THE COMMISSION THAT I NEGLECTED TO PUT A CLEAR EXEMPTION FOR INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE EXEMPTION LIST WHERE THE UNDERLYING LANGUAGES.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT WE HAD BEFORE WHERE WE HAD A SPECIFIC EXEMPTION FOR FOREST PRODUCTS, PLANTS OR MANUFACTURING. I JUST WOULD SAY INDUSTRIAL USES SO THAT WE ARE NOT CONTENT SPECIFIC AND CITING THE TWO THAT WE HAVE HERE THAT ARE NOT INCLUDING INDUSTRIAL USES. WITH THAT IN THE FORMER LANGUAGE DID CALL MANUFACTURING PLANT SPECIFICALLY. I WOULD SAY INDUSTRIAL USES BUT THEN THERE IS A CAVEAT IN THERE THAT I WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THAT SAYS IT CAN'T CREATE A NUISANCE OR BECAUSE BY ANY LANGUAGE ENDS OF THE OPERATOR OF THE PROPERTY OR PROPERTY OWNER. IT'S THE WAY THAT THE LANGUAGES BEFORE. IT'S BASICALLY THAT IF IT'S NEEDED FOR THE OPERATIONS, THAT'S FINE. BUT IF IT IS SOME KIND OF NEGLIGENCE OR NUISANCE ACTIVITY AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL NOT BE COVERED UNDER THE EXEMPTION.

>> THANK YOU. >> HAVE A QUESTION. COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> THE FIRST QUESTION IS UNDER INDUSTRIAL USES IF YOU LOOK AT OUR ZONING CODE THERE IS A WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS THAT ARE AND INDUSTRIAL USE INCLUDING RESTAURANTS AND MANY OTHER

THINGS. >> INDUSTRIAL ZONING IS MORE LIMITED THAN THAT.

>> IT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED WHAT IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL WE HAVE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. I'M SUBMITTING IT TO YOU. WHEN I HAVE IS CALLS FROM BOTH OF THE MOUSE WITH CONCERNS THAT IN THE PAST WE HAD EXEMPTED THEM.

WE HAVE AN EXEMPTION THAT I ALSO DELETED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAUSES SOME OF THE THINKING AND STUFF THAT YOU ARE CROSSTOWN BUT THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT TALKS ABOUT RELIEF VALVES AND RUPTURED DISCS. DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE NOISE THAT THEY

GENERATE. >> I HAVE A PROBLEM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE INDUSTRIAL DISTANCE INTO A LOT OF OTHER AREAS. MY SECOND QUESTION IS DO

SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT? >> I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.

THAT'S NOT A LEGAL QUESTION. WE WAIT FOR EMOTION AND A SECOND.

I MOVED TO APPROVE GIVEN THAT THE EXEMPTION I RETAINED. I JUST REALLY LIKE THE OLD EXEMPTIONS. THE LIST OF EXCEPTIONS IS VERY GOOD AND SUPPLIED GRADES AND EVERYTHING WE NEEDED IN THERE. I'M GONNA MOVE TO APPROVE JUST LIKE I DID NOT COPY AND PASTE

INTO THE. >> HAVE EMOTION,. B&. THE SECOND TICKET.

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>> COMMISSIONER ROSS WOULD LIKE TO SWITCH SEATS IN THE COMEDY COMMISSIONER ROSSHOW DO YOU DO WITH IT BEING HIM? WE HAVE ABOUT AND A SECOND DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION?

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS? I HAVE A VIDEO WOULD LIKE TO PLAY.

>> I DO WANT TO SAY IS HE'S PULLING UP THE VIDEO I HAVE LEGAL CONCERNS COMMISSIONER WIEN CONTENT SPECIFIC THINGS THAT YOU CALLED ORDINANCE AND THE QUESTION EVEN IF IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH SOMEBODY HAVING A DECIBEL ROUTING THAT EXCEEDED THE LIMITS BUT THEY JUST CHALLENGE THE ORDINANCE ON THE CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IT'S CONTENT SPECIFIC. I WOULD LIKE TO DO SINCE WE HAVE NOT ARTICULATED THE EXACT LANGUAGE, KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE MOTION WITH THE LANGUAGE FROM THE OLD EXEMPTIONS AND I'M SAYING THAT I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT EXACT LANGUAGE. THERE IS A WAY WE CAN DO WE NEED TO TO GET THERE BUT IT'S NOT BY USING FOREST PROJECTS AND MANUFACTURING PLANTS.

>> PRIOR TO THIS IF YOU THINK THAT PUBLIC, FIRST IN THE POSTER THAT.

>> ANY PUBLIC COMICS? THE FIRST PERSON TO SPEAK? >> MARGARET DAVIS 2162 FIRST AVENUE. WITHOUT A QUESTION NOISE ORDINANCES ARE CHALLENGING BECAUSE THEY MUST BALANCE THE COMPETING INTERESTS OF LONG TIME AND, BUSINESSES AND TOURISTS. THEY ALSO MUST AS HE JUST TALKED ABOUT ADDRESS CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES AND SEEK TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY.

FORTUNATELY THIS ORDINANCE THAT IS PROPOSED DOES NOT ACCOMPLISH THIS.

FIRST, THE MAXIMUM LEVEL THAT IS PROPOSED OF 80 DB EXCEEDS PUBLIC GUIDELINES ESTABLISHED TO LIMIT THE NEGATIVE HEALTH PROBLEMS CAUSED BY EXCESSIVE NOISE.

THE. WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION RECOMMENDED 70, 70 DBA FOR THE MAXIMUM DBA LEVEL THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE EXPOSED TO OVER 24 HOUR PERIOD.

AS YOU KNOW THE DECIBEL SCALE IS LOGARITHMIC NOT LINEAR. THEREFORE AN INCREASE GOING FROM 70 TO 80 RESULTS IN A DOUBLING OF THE VOLUME. THUS IT'S 80 DB WITH THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE SIGNIFICANTLY EXCEEDING THE RECOMMENDED LIMIT ESPECIALLY FOR RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN THE CITY THEREBY PUTTING OUR CITIZENS HEALTH AT RISK.

MORE SIGNIFICANTLY THE PROPOSED LEVEL OF 80 DBA FOR RESIDENTIAL AREAS OF THE CITY WHETHER YOU ARE NEXT TO A GOLF COURSE, THE BEACH OR DOWNTOWN IS EXTREME. I HAVE REVIEWED OVER 50 LOCAL NOISE ORDINANCES FOR FLORIDA CITIES. YOU'VE ALSO BEEN HANDED OUT A CHART THAT I PREPARED. AS IT ILLUSTRATES THIS ORANGE LINE IS THE 80 DB LEVEL BEING PROPOSED FOR OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. YOU WILL NOTE THAT IT IS ABOUT THE MAXIMUM DBA LEVEL SET IN THE NOISE ORDINANCES FOR THE IN FLORIDA.

BY THE WAY MIAMI BEACH AND CLEARWATER BEACH ARE NOT ON HERE BECAUSE THEY REVERTED FROM A DBA STANDARD BACK TO PLAYING THE AUDIBLE STANDARD. THAT MEANS THAT OUR RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY ARE GOING TO BE EXPOSED TO NOISE LEVEL HIGHER THAN DAYTONA BEACH, PANAMA CITY BEACH, FORT LAUDERDALE BEACH. I DO NOT THINK THAT PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF MOVED HERE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO LIVE IN A RUCKUS ENVIRONMENT LIKE US OR FORT

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THE SAME EFFECT IS SEEN EVEN ON THE COMMERCIAL LEVEL. AGAIN, HERE'S YOUR ORANGE LINE THAT CROSSES ATVS THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED. HIGH COMMERCIAL RETAIL NOISE LEVELS FOR THE LARGEST BEACH PARTY TOWNS THAT USE DBA STANDARD IN FLORIDA IS

CLEARWATER BEACH IN ST. PETE AND THERE WILL BELOW THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> I APPRECIATE THIS WORK. IT'S VERY VALUABLE. WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION

BE ON DBA? >> MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO FOLLOW DUSTIN'S EXAMPLE AS OUTLINED IN THIS EMAIL THAT I SENT YOU. TESTING USES PLAINLY AUDIBLE STANDARD FOR THE CITY BUT THEN CARVES OUT A DBA STANDARD FOR WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE SOUTH HARBOR MIXED-USE AREA WHICH IS SIMILAR TO OUR DOWN PART-TIME CLEARWATER FIVE.

IF YOU WANT TO GO TO A DBA AREA BECAUSE OUR ISSUE SEEMS TO BE WITH NOISE LEVELS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. I LIVE NEAR SLIDERS AND I HEAR IT.

AND 400 FEET AWAY BUT I DON'T, COMPLAIN UNLESS I HEAR IT INSIDE WHICH SOMETIMES I DO.

THE LEVEL IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE SAINT AUGUSTINE AREA LEVELS WERE.

>> I WOULD STAY WITH THAT AND BE WELL BELOW THE EPA RECOMMENDED LS BUT USING PLAINLY AUDIBLE IS THE WAY TO GO. SINCE YOU ASKED FOR RECOMMENDATIONS I ALSO THINK HAT WE COULD HAVE BETTER EDUCATION FOR THE BUSINESSES AND OUR MUSIC FOR EXAMPLES PUT A PAGE ON THE WEBSITE THAT EXPLAINS THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND INCLUDES MAYBE CUSTOMER SERVICE NUMBERS THAT COMMISSIONER SEARCHES WAS SUGGESTING EARLIER. THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR ONE A MUSICIAN OR MUSIC VENUE IS ASKING FOR,. GIVE THEM A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE AND HAVE THEM SIGN AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY RECEIVED AND WILL COMPLY WITH THAT.

EDUCATIONAL GOAL AWAY. I THINK THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN REACH THIS IS GOING TO THE EXTREME AND COMPLICATED. I'M A LAWYER AND I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH UNDERSTANDING THIS PROPOSED STATUTE. POLICE OFFICERS AND SIEGES WILL DO.

>> YOU RECOGNIZE THAT GOING TO PLAINLY AUDIBLE THERE IS NO DECIBEL LIMIT.

IT'S UNLIMITED. >> IS NOT A DECIBEL LIMIT BUT IT HAS BEEN UPHELD MANY TIMES BY THE COURTS INCLUDING THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT. MOST RECENTLY THE 11TH CIRCUIT COURT TO US THIS YEAR. IT IS NOT CONSIDERED VAGUE BUT THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED SINCE THE PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING HERE OR IN THE COMMERCIAL DOWNTOWN AREAS YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THE STATUTE FOR EXAMPLE THAT THE CITY ACCEPTED THE EQUIVALENT OF OUR DOWNTOWN IS PLAINLY AUDIBLE. BUT THEN FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA THEY DO SET LEVELS.

>> WEST PALM BEACH DOES THE EXACT THING. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS MISTER

HOGAN. >> THANK YOU MISTER MARILEE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THIS

EVENING. I'VE BEEN A MUSICIAN HERE. >> SAM HARTMAN THREE S. FRONT STREET FOR THE DATA BEACH MARCH 2, 2004. I'VE BEEN A MUSICIAN HERE SINCE 1989. I'VE BEEN A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN HERE SINCE 2004.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE I THE PROFESSIONS CRAFTED OVER TIME.

AS WE KNOW MUSIC IS ABOUT MAKING NOISE. IT'S ABOUT CONNECTING PEOPLE AND BRINGING THEM TOGETHER. MUSIC DRAWS PEOPLE INTO SPACES. IT HAPPENS AROUND TOWN AND ON THE WEEKENDS. EITHER IS A GROUP OF THAT LIKE SOUNDS AND THOUGHT I WAS DRAWS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO CENTER STREET OR AS PART OF COMMERCE FOR BUSINESS LIKE THE BOATHOUSE. OR IS EVEN PART OF THE CHARITY EVENT TO RAISE MONEY FOR CAUSES. AND MENTION THESE TYPES OF MUSIC BECAUSE IT'S PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL FOR ME. IN THESE SCENARIOS I'VE NEVER HAD A NICE COMPLAINT.

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MORE THAN THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT MY LIVELIHOOD. ERASED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR THIS COMMUNITY EVEN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

I'M NOT BRAGGING ABOUT THAT. I'M ACTUALLY HUMBLE AND PART OF THAT BECAUSE I'M PART OF THE COMMUNITY AS A PHYSICIAN. I FEEL LIKE PART OF WHAT THEY CALL THE SCENE AND I WANT TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION HERE. THAT'S WHY I'M ADDRESSING IT. I'VE NOT HAD COMPLAINTS BECAUSE THE MUSIC I CHOOSE TO PLAY IS POPULAR AMONG A LARGE DEMOGRAPHIC OF THE POPULATION.

THAT'S JUST MY SUSPICION. THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT SKILL SET ACROSS YEARS OF PLAYING.

THAT SAID WHEN THE VENUES OPEN HERE THERE ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE A ROUGH WHEN A NEW VENUE POPS UP.

BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO SOMEBODY. I THINK THESE FLAREUPS WE'VE NOW SEEN DOWNTOWN AND THIS MIXED COMMUNITY. I DON'T BELIEVE ANY MUSICIAN WANTS TO BE LOUD.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANY MUSICIAN WANTS TO BE CONTROLLED BY DEVICE.

I BELIEVE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND HAVE REASONABLE LIMITS ON LEVELS THAT ARE SELF-IMPOSED.

I DON'T BELIEVE IN MY 30+ YEARS I'VE EVER HAD A MANAGER TOMMY TO TURN UP MY VOLUME SO I CAN DRAW PEOPLE INTO HIS PLACE. THAT'S AN ISSUE HERE. THE ISSUE APPEARS TO BE THIS MIXED COMMUNITY. THE ANSWER HEE IS HOW TO WORK TOGETHER TO THE CONFLICT WHERE WE RUBBED UP AGAINST EACH OTHER SO THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE HAPPY ON THE VENUES ARE FUNCTIONING AND WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER. IT WAS QUIET FOR A LONG TIME. I SAW THE FLAREUP 10 YEARS AGO AND THAT IT WAS QUIET. IT SEEMS TO ME THERE IS A FLAREUP.

WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO BRING THE FLAREUP BACK UNDER CONTROL. A MANAGER RECENTLY TOLD ME HE HAD 27 MUSICIANS COME THROUGH AND THEY'VE NOT YET HAD A COMPLAINT.

THE ANSWER IS IN THIS ROOM. IT'S MIXED-USE MISTER MERRITT I THINK THE COMMISSION CAN CREATE

A SOLUTION THAT WE CAN WORK WITH. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MARION PHILLIPS I LIVE AT 724 S. SIXTH STREET.

I'VE BEEN QUIET AND SONG ON THIS ISSUE BUT I HAVE WRITTEN SOME THINGS ON FACEBOOK.

I DO WANT TO SAY THIS ONE THING. I'M AGAINST THE SOURCES BEING CHANGED. THE FAMILY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEAKING ABOUT IN THIS ROOM. THEY LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THE BOATHOUSE.

THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THE BOATHOUSE OUR FAMILY FRIENDS OF MINE AND I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR GENERATIONS. THE MOTHER IS PROBABLY SLOWLY DYING RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHY SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT. TWO OF HER CHILDREN ARE HERE TONIGHT I LOVE MUSIC, BELIEVE ME. I LOVE A LOT. THAT FAMILY THAT LIVES NEXT DOOR TO THE BOATHOUSE FOR SOME OF THE STUFF IS HAPPENING HAVE BEEN THERE FOR GENERATIONS.

SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE SEEN ON FACEBOOK ABOUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LIVE DOWNTOWN TO MOVE THE, YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY WERE HERE FIRST. THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

THE FAMILY CAN STAY THERE IN THAT HOUSE TO STAY THERE. THAT REALLY UPSET ME.

I THINK THIS COMMUNITY WORKS VERY GOOD TOGETHER. WE COME TOGETHER WHEN THERE IS A NEED. I THINK WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AND FIX THIS PROBLEM.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE FIGHTING AMONGST EACH OTHER. I DON'T WANT TO HATE ME.

PI UNDERSTAND PEOPLE HAVE FINANCED THIS UP ON THE PORCH. LIKE BOTTLES AND TRASH.

IN RETALIATION BECAUSE SHE'S WORK AND HER MOTHER HAS HEARING.

WE NEED TO GET EVERYBODY. THE COMMISSION IS THE RIGHT THING OR THE LADY THAT'S THE BEGINNING, THAT WAS A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION THAT SHE HAD WITH HER SOME INFORMATION AT THE COMMISSION CAN USE. APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME SPEAK TONIGHT THANK YOU.

>> HER NEXT FIGURE IS A NET. >> MY NAME IS ANNETTA COSTA AND I LIVE AT 22 SECOND STREET NINE THE ONE THAT LIVES NEXT TO THE BOATHOUSE. THE CDC DOES RECOMMEND THAT CONVERSATION IS AT 60 DB. FOR YOU TO HAVE GOOD SLEEP HE NEEDS TO BE NO MORE THAN 30 DB

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AT 80 DB IN MY HOME AT 65 TO 72. THIS IS IN MY HOME AND MY LIVING ROOM AND BEDROOMS SHARE THE PROPERTY LINE WITH THE BOATHOUSE.

I WENT OVER AND ASKED HIM TO TURN IT DOWN AND THEY WILL NOT TURN IT DOWN.

WHATEVER YOU SET IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO OPERATE AT. CONVERSATION IS AT 60.

WHEN YOU INCREASE TO 65 THE VOLUME DOUBLES. INSTEAD OF STARTING HEIDI TO WHAT WE START LOWER AND SEE IF THAT IS SOMETHING WORKABLE. LIKE I SAID THE ONLY ONE WHEN I WAS HERE WAS HIM AND HE WOULD TURN IT ON AND WE WORKED TO GET SOMETHING THAT WAS FEASIBLE FOR BOTH OF US. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY PLAY A LOT.

DOES IT SOUND BETTER WATER? DO YOU ENJOY IT MORE IF IT'S NOT HER? IS IT DESIGNED TO ENTICE AND BRING TRAFFIC DOWN? WE NEED TO WORK ON SOLUTIONS NOW. THESE ARE NOT POPULAR BUT WHAT IF WE WANT TO ONLY ACOUSTIC MUSIC IF THEY ARE OUTSIDE. OR TRYING TO FIND OUT WHICH NOBODY WANTS TO DO THAT.

WHAT ABOUT BLUETOOTH SPEAKERS SO THEY COULD PUT OUT AN INCIDENT HAVING THE BIG SEEKER SHOOT OUT THIS WAY DIRECTED AT MY HOUSE THEY CAN PUT THE BLUETOOTH SPEAKERS POINTING THAT WAY MAYBE ON THE TABLE SO THE PATRONS CAN ADJUST THE VOLUME.

IF WE DO GET A MEASURING I WOULD PREFER YOU MEASURED IT FROM THE SOURCE BECAUSE THE DECIBELS MEASURE THE SOUND BUT NOT THE IMPACT OF THE SOUND WHICH TRAVELS MORE THAN THE DUST. WHEN THEY DO SOUNDS ON CENTER I CAN HEAR IT BUT BARELY CAN I HEAR IT NOW IF IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A SUBTLE WAY FOR WHAT LEVEL THEY ARE PLAYING.

SOUND IS WHAT WE HEAR A NOISE IS UNWANTED SOUNDS. AFTER 80 DB IN MY HOME INSIDE MY HOME I'M HEARING NOISE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HEAR AND THERE'S NOWHERE I CAN GO ON MY HOUSE TO GET AWAY FROM IT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR FOR ANYONE THAT YOU CAN GO ON YOUR

HOME AND I HAVE TO LISTEN TO LIVE MUSIC. >> IS TO CONSTANTLY SAY

PLEASE. >> A WEEK AGO I WAS AT YOUR HOUSE.

>> YES SIR. >> I WENT DOWN AT 7:45 PM. I STOOD BY THE PERFORMER AT THE BOATHOUSE TOOK A MEASUREMENT FOR A MINUTE. THE AVERAGE DECIBEL BEING A MINUTE WAS 84. I THEN WENT AND ASKED IF THE COST IS I CAN GO INSIDE THE HOUSE. SHE LET ME IN AND SIT IN HER LIVING ROOM WITH THE DOOR CLOSED. I MEASURED THE DECIBEL LEVEL FOR ONE MINUTE AND THE AVERAGE WAS 68 DB. THAT SECRET OF TWO PEOPLE HAVING A CONVERSATION.

THIS IS AT 8:00 AT NIGHT. IMAGINE HER TRYING TO WATCH T.V.

>> I BELIEVE YOU'RE HAVING GRANDCHILDREN WERE VISITING YOU .

THEIR LIMITS RIGHT NEXT TO THE BOATHOUSE. THAT 84 DB INTERIOR SOUND IS 68. NO MATTER WHICH WAY WE GO WITH THIS ORDINANCE WITH A REMEASURE DECIBEL OR WHETHER IT'S AUDIBLE, SHE'S GONNA BE CALLING THE COPS EVERY NIGHT BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY AUDIBLE AND TIGHTER HOUSE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT REMEDY FOR THAT. IF ONE OF THE 42 I AM TRYING TO EARS.

THIS IS A SITUATION THAT WILL BE VERY HARD TO O RESOLVE. >> WE HEARD FROM THE BOATHOUSE

AND PAJAMA DAY. BOTH VENUES. >> JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT SHE'S DEALING WITH, TOOK A MEASUREMENT WHERE THERE WAS NO MUSIC.

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BOATHOUSE TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEAS TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> JEANETTE ACOSTA?

>> MY NAME IS JANINE ACOSTA I LIVE AT 1128 TWO FRITO DRIVE JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA.

MY MOTHER HAS BEEN ATTACKED AND VILIFIED ON FACEBOOK AND OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA.

THERE WAS EVEN A SUGGESTION THAT THEY TAKE UP A GO FUND ME AND BUY HER SOME EARPHONES OR EARPLUGS THAT SHE COULD WEAR IN HER HOME SO SHE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HEAR THE NOISE.

WELL, IT'S NOT JUST THE MUSIC. NOBODY'S TRYING SUGGESTING THAT WE WANT TO DO AWAY WITH THE MUSIC. WE JUST WANTED TO LEVEL SO THAT INSIDE OF HER HOME AT 10:00 AT NIGHT WITHOUT HER HEARING AIDS SHE'S WALKING AROUND SAYING CAN YOU PLEASE TURN THE MUSIC DOWN.

SHE'S 87 YEARS OLD AND HAS LIVED IN THIS HOUSE SINCE SHE WAS 11 YEARS OLD.

SHE IS NOT A NEWCOMER. THE SUGGESTIONS FROM PEOPLE AS IF SHE KNEW IT WAS SHE SHOULD MOVE DOWN THERE. WE DIDN'T JUST MOVE DOWN THERE. WE LIVED THERE FOR 77 YEARS.

REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A BLANK LOT. IT WAS AN INSPECTION STATION FOR YOUR VEHICLES. IT WAS THE BOATHOUSE AND NOW IT'S A VENUE THAT IS CLEARLY NOT INTERESTED IN BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR. WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING SHE ALLOWED THEM TO COME ON THE PROPERTY AND USE WATER TO MAKE CONCRETE OR PUT DOWN THEIR THINGS. WE HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. WE ARE JUST ASKING THAT THEY TURN IT DOWN SOME.

YOU HAVE ON THE LEFT, ON THE RIGHT AND BEHIND YOU. TOGETHER WITH PEOPLE TALKING BECAUSE THEY ARE TALKING LOUDER WHEN THE MUSIC IS LOUDER AND THE AMBIENT NOISE IT'S JUST CLEARLY COME IN OUR DIRECTION. IT'S NOT HEALTHY. YOU CAN THIS HEARING AT 80 DB.

OSHA SAYS YOU NEED TO WEAR EARPLUGS IF YOU WORK IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THERE IS 80 DB. I DON'T THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE TO EXPECT US TO SET SOMETHING AT A LIVABLE LEVEL FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. THEY DIDN'T JUST MOVE THERE.

WE WERE THERE FIRST AND WE WERE AT THIS NOT THE NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK.

I'M TIRED OF BEING CALLED AN OLD FOLK AND THAT SHE SHOULD JUST MOVE.

SHE'S LIVED THEIR WHOLE LIFE AND HER PARENTS DIED THERE. HER HUSBAND DIED IN THAT HOUSE.

SHE'S NOT GOING TO MOVE. WE NEED TO FIND SOME KIND OF SOLUTION THAT MAKES IT WHERE EVERYBODY CAN. WE ARE IN A SANDBOX AND I WOULD NEED TO PLAY TOGETHER AND GET ALONG. THIS IS A SANDBOX AND THEY NEED TO LEARN HOW TO GET ALONG WITH THE NEIGHBORS. LIKE I SAID SHE'S NOT GOING TO MOVE AND IT'S UNTENABLE THAT THE CONDITIONS THAT SHE'S HAVING TO LIVE UNDER IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED.

THANK YOU. >> CURTIS GONZALES. >> MY NAME IS CHAD AND I LIVE AT 1807 COUNTY HOUSE. I'M THE CO-OWNER OF THE BOATHOUSE WITH SPURGEON RICHARDSON. I WANT TO PUBLICIZE. I MISSED THE CALL AND I WANT TO COME BEFORE YOU ENDS THE MEETING THAT WE HAD IN THE WORKSHOP WE HAD WITH LISA AT MAINSTREET WAS A GREAT VERY HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE WORKSHOP.

I THINK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND WISH WE HAD A CHANCE WITH YOU. I THINK I'M VERY COMPASSIONATE AND I GET HESITANT DOWN. THE OTHER NIGHT THE POLICE OFFICER CAME OVER AND ASKED HIM TO TURN IT DOWN. I WANT TO LIVE NEXT DOOR AND I WANT SURVIVE WITH HER AND BE A

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ANYHOW LIFE IS CHANGING DOWNTOWN. FERNANDINA BEACH IS GOING LIKE NEVER BEFORE. IT'S FUELED BY TOURISM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IN THE HOUSING INITIATIVE IS CRAZY. PEOPLE ARE JUST COMING DOWN SO IT'S A TOUGH THING GOING ON.

WHAT IS THE BOATHOUSE DOING? I HEARD FROM SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS THINK THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. I THINK WE ARE BEING VERY PROACTIVE.

I DID ALMOST EVERY MUSICIAN I'VE SEEN THE MAYOR ONE NIGHT I'VE SEEN MISTER BEING SEVERAL NICE AND HE'S COME FROM BEHIND THE OTHER NIGHT. THEY'RE CHECKING THIS OUT TOO.

WITH THAT BEING SAID I CONTACTED A VERY PROFESSIONAL COMPANY CALLED ACOUSTIC AT OF TAMPA. I GOT SOME DOCUMENTS FOR YOU. SOME OF THE CURTAIN.

THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL NOT USED BY AT HOME,. IT COMES IN SLIDES DOWN.

IT WILL DEFEAT THE DECIBEL BY ABOUT 18 TO 20 DB. WE HAVE A SOLUTION.

WE PUT ON THE FROM THE STREET. >> YOU PREPARED TO GO AHEAD AND YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HDC TO GET A PERMIT FOR THIS THEY WERE MOUNTING. I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU HAVE IT ON THE SIDE OF YOUR BUILDING BETWEEN HER HOUSE IN YOUR BUILDING.

>> I CAN PROBABLY DO IT ON POLES BUT TODAY THE ENGINEER TOLD ME THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO KEEP IT PRE-FLUSH WITH THE WALLS BECAUSE IF NOT IT WILL RICOCHET OFF OF THAT TO THE WALL AND IT WILL KEEP RICOCHETING. I'VE SOMETHING FOR YOU.

I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW THINGS DON'T HAPPEN FAST ESPECIALLY TO YESTERDAY AND GOT THE QUOTE. $27 WITH LABOR TO GET IT WITH PARTS INSTALLED.

I FEEL FOR HER. I WANT TO. >> YOUR PREPARED TO ACT ON

DOING ABATEMENT BASICALLY IN MITIGATION. >> THAT PHASE 1.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE STAGE. WITH PHASE 3 WILL BE PANELS WHICH WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND PUT BECAUSE IT RICOCHETS. JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO WHEN WE ARE COUNTING FEET. UNDER 200. IT IS STILL SHOOTING DOWN THAT STREET RICOCHETING OFF THE BUILDINGS. .

YOU COME UP FOR THE STAGE AND IN THE BUILDING THIRD. I'M WILLING TO DO IT.

SO THAT IS APPROVED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WILL CALL THE ROLE.

L] JULIE FOR A 50 STATE TREET. SO I LIVE FIVE BLOCKS AND THE NIGHT NOISES THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR INDUSTRY IS HERE TO IN REGARDS TO THE WORDING FOR INDUSTRY I WAS WONDERING.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE SET SOMETHING LIKE EXISTING INDUSTRY SHOULD BE SHOULD BE GRANDFATHERED. I GUESS MY FEAR IS THAT NEW INDUSTRY COMING COULD BE ADDING

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I THINK THAT THEIR SYSTEM BE SOME CONSIDERATION TO NOT FINDING INDIVIDUALS.

THANK YOU. >> GONZALES AGAIN FOR A SECOND TIME.

>> ANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK? >> WILL HAVE A DISCUSSIO.

I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE. AMY MY VICKERY. >> MY NAME IS AMY VICKERY I LIVE AT 11 S. SEVENTH STREET. I SPOKE IN HERE BEFORE AND I'VE ARTIE SHARED MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THE DECIBEL LIMITS ON THE TIME LIMITS WHICH I STILL FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHILE SOME PEOPLE HAVE COME APPEAR AND TALKED ABOUT THE DECIBEL LIMIT BEING AT 80 AND HARMFUL TO OUR HEARING, BUT THE 24 HOUR PERIOD SUSTAINED.

THAT'S NOT PEAKS AND ARE DECIBEL LIMITS HAVE BEEN MEASURED OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHILE THIS IS BEEN GOING ON. MOST OF US REMAIN BETWEEN 65 AND 75 AND WE ONLY PEEK INTO THE 80S SOMETIMES. IT'S NOT A CONSTANT. ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I SYMPATHIZE WITH MS. ACOSTA. I UNDERSTAND WHERE SHE'S COMING FROM.

MY SISTER IS AN ONCOLOGY NURSE. I UNDERSTAND THE HOURS AND I UNDERSTAND THE EXHAUSTION.

I KNOW WHAT THE JOB IS LIKE AND HOW YOU HAVE A LACK OF APPRECIATION FOR WHAT YOU DO.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M SORRY THAT THIS HAS CAUSED TO SO MUCH EMOTIONAL UNREST.

OUR MUSICIAN COMMITTED TO NOT WANT THAT FOR ANYONE. WE ARE A GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS WHO HAVE MADE THIS OUR CAREER. WE'VE CHOSEN TO MAKE THIS OUR CAREER AND AGAIN IT'S OUR LIVELIHOOD SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE WE CAN STOP PLAYING MUSIC AND CHANGE OUR WHOLE LIVES JUST LIKE YOU CAN'T UP YOUR NURSING CAREER AND BECOME A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSON OR YOU CAN ENJOY NIGHTLIFE AND EVERYTHING CHANGES FOR EVERYONE. WE WANT TO BE HERE WORKING TOGETHER WITH YOU AND WITH OUR VENUES SO THAT WE CAN LIVE AT PEACE.

I'M SORRY THAT YOU'VE EXPERIENCED SO MUCH BACKLASH FROM THIS. CAN RELATE TO THAT AND I HAVE A LOT OF SYMPATHY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IF WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE A TIME-LIMITED DECIBEL ORDINANCE I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE CAN PUT THIS TO REST AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO ON FIGHTING FOR WEEKS ON END.

I WANT US PEOPLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT AND MOVE ON. I'VE BEEN PLAYING MUSIC FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. A PLAIN SAINT AUGUSTINE, JACKSONVILLE, FERNANDINA BEACH AND A METEOR TO BE A PART OF THIS MUSIC COMMUNITY BECAUSE I FOUND IT IS NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY FOR MUSIC BUT THE COMMUNITY ITSELF IS SO SUPPORTIVE AND I JUST WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT. I DON'T WANT THAT TO COME TO AN ABRUPT END RIGHT AFTER I MOVED

HERE TO BE A PART OF THAT. >> YOU CAN SPEAK AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE DONE WILL GO FORWARD.

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>> MY NAME IS MARK GARRIS. IN THE 4747 GULFSTREAM. I'M THE MANAGER AT THE GREEN TURTLE. AS YOU KNOW WE MET WITH EVERYBODY.

THE FIRST ONE I JUST KINDA WANT TO THANK LISA FOR MAINSTREAM. SHE SPEARHEADED THESE MEETINGS AND IT'S AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK AND BEHIND THE SCENES IS WHEN INTO THIS.

I WANT TO THANK HER FOR THAT. WANT TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON 80 DB.

LIKE I SAID OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS WE HAVE WENT BY THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

I READ IT PROBABLY SIX TIMES. THE TABLE AND THERE DOES DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND THE MIX MULTIUSE. THE RESIDENTIAL LEVELS ARE PRETTY CLOSE. I THINK ONE OF THEM IS LIKE 60. I THINK THERE'S LITTLE BIT OF CONSUMPTION. IT'S NOT FOR THE WHOLE ISLAND DEADLY.

FROM THE MEASUREMENTS I'VE TAKEN FROM DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET WE WERE AT 77 AND 78.

THAT'S WHAT THE FANS WITH THE BAD WEATHER AND WE HAD TO HAVE THEM ON THE PORCH WHICH IS MOST INVASIVE. I TEXTED HER THAT AND WE HAVE A BAN ON THE PORCH ITS NASTY WEATHER. THIS WILL BE THE LOUDEST IT'S GOING TO BE FOR US.

WITH YOU WOULD BE THE DANCE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE GOOD COMMUNICATION SO IT WASN'T A PROBLEM. I THINK IT'S SAD TO SOME PEOPLE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT.

WHEN YOU MEASURE IT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A LOT FOR US. WE'VE BEEN ON THIS LIKE I SAID WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE AND NO ISSUES. URINE ABOUT A TRICKY SPOT.

THE HOTEL AND YOU HAVE CITY HALL THE RESIDENTS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

THAT'S UNIQUE SITUATION. I THINK THAT SITUATION NEEDS TO BE HANDLED SEPARATELY.

IT TIES IN EVERY OTHER BUSINESS AT THE SNUFF PROBLEM. THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IN A SEPARATE SCENARIO BECAUSE THIS WAS GOING TO WORK FOR THEM NOT TO WORK FOR US.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A ONE SIZE FITS ALL JUST GIVEN A UNIQUE SITUATION.

I THINK THAT IT IS GOOD TO START. I THINK WIESE START AND WE HAVE TRIED IT. IT'S WORKED FOR TWO WEEKS AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY THOUGHTS ON IT. I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS TOO BECAUSE WE MET WITH EACH ONE OF

YOU. WITHOUT THEIR PRODUCTIVE. >> ANY FOR THE SPEAKERS FOR

DISCUSSION? >> VIDEO BACKUP. THEY CAN AT THE MUSIC FROM A DOWNTOWN PARK WAS SO LOUD THAT THEY COULD NOT HEAR CUSTOMERS. THE POLICE OFFICER WAS DISPATCHED. ON APRIL 6, 2021 THE MUSICIAN WHO INTERFERED WITH THE LOCAL MERCHANTS BUSINESS PLAYED A LARGE VOLUME FOR STREET PERFORMANCE TESTIFIED.

I WAS ASKED TO STOP PLAYING TWICE BY THE PRINTING OF POLICE.

PRIOR TO OBTAINING ANY INFORMATION FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THEY VERIFIED WHAT WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENING TO CITY PCOMMISSIONERS STATED THAT THEY WERE SORRY FOR WHAT HAPPENED.

>> THEY WERE CHASING HOOT STUDENTS OUT OF POCKET PARK AS THEY RAISED MONEY AND THIS GOT MY ATTENTION.

BASED ON THIS TESTIMONY, I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES CONCERNING THAT EVENT AND I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS THE POLICE FILED AND THEY USED THE AUDIBLE STANDARD AND THEREFORE, I MADE AN APPOINTMENT WITH CHIEF FOXWORTH AND VIEWED THE BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE AND THAT TAPE IS A PUBLIC RECORD AND IF YOU WOULD PLAY THAT TAPE RIGHT NOW.

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SHE'S GOT A PERMIT. >> WHAT DOES THE PERMIT SAY AND

CAN SHE DO AMPLIFIED MUSIC IN. >> YEP.

>> WHAT DOES THE MUSIC INCLUDE AND WE'RE ELECTRIC ALREADY.

>> WE'VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING BEFORE.

>> OH, YEAH, SHE'S TOTALLY WITHIN HER RIGHTS.

SHE HAS HER PERMIT HANGING RIGHT THERE.

>> HOW ARE YOU GUYS? >> GOOD.

>> I'M SORRY TO BOTHER YOU. WE'RE GETTING A CALL BETWEEN ALL OF CENTER STREET, WE'RE GETTING COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE NOISE.

>> THEY MUST BE SAD PEOPLE. >> YOU KNOW, IT IS A HOT TOPIC

RIGHT NOW. >> A LOT GOING ON.

>> WHAT DOES YOUR PERMIT SEE? >> SHE AS A PERMIT FROM THE CITY AND SHE'S WITHIN HER RIGHTS. AND ASKING FOR MONEY.

>> NO, THAT'S OK. >> THE PERMIT SAYS FROM WHAT WE KNOW OF THE BYLAWS, AS LONG SHE NOT ASKING FOR MONEY, YOU CAN PLAY MY WHERE, BUT IF YOU HAVE A TIP CUP OUT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A

PERMIT. >> IT DOESN'T SAY ABOUT AMLYIFIED. AMPLIFIED.

>> I KNEW THE NOISE ORDINANCE SAYS IF WE CAN HEAR IT AT ONE HUNDRED FEET. I WOULD SUGGEST ACOUSTIC AND NOT AMPLIFY IT. HERE IS THE OTHER ISSUE, THIS GROUP HERE WOULD LIKE TO PLAY WITH YOU, BUT THEIR MUSIC IS VERY LOUD, ALSO. SO THE ISSUE IS, IF I HAVE TO KIND OF GO WITH WHAT THE CITY SAYS.

>> RIGHT ON! CAN WE PLAY ONE SONG?

>> I WOULD SAY GO ACOUSTIC IF YOU CAN.

THEY'VE OFFERED TO OPPORTUNITY DOWN A LITTLE BIT, TOO.

>> I'M SURE THEY HAVE A VOLUME RIGHT HERE, RIGHT, GUYS? IT'S ALL GOOD. THIS IS ALL AVAILABLE ONLINE.

>> I'M JUST CHECKING TO SEE WHO IT INCLUDES.

>> IT INCLUDES -- ASKING FOR MONEY --

>> WHO IS ALEXANDRA AND WHO IS JULIE? AND IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THEM AND MORE MUSICIANS, THE LOUDER

THE MUSIC. >> SHE'S GETTING READY TO PACK

UP, ANYWAY. >> IT'S 6:30 AND YOU THINK

YOU'LL BE OUT BEFORE 7:00? >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> IF I CAN A CALL BACK -- >> YOU WON'T GET CALLED BACK, I

PROMISE. >> I, WISH I WAS AS OPTIMISTICS YOU ARE. BUT UNTIL THEY SORT THIS NOISE OUT. YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.

THANK YOU. TALK CARE, GUYS.

HAVE A GOOD HOLIDAY. >> SO WHAT'S THE VERDICT?

>> WELL, THE VERDICT IS THEY'LL WRAP IT UP ANYWAY IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES AND I ASKED THEM TO GO ACUTE ACOUSTICS AND I'LL LET THEM KNOW THEY'RE ABOUT TO WIND UP AND THEY'RE DONE FOR TONIGHT AND HOPEFULLY, THAT WILL KEEP EVERYBODY HAPPY AND THAT'S WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD HOLIDAY. >> THEY ACCUSED THE POLICE OF BEING STORM TROOPERS TROUP. THANK YOU, MARCH MARK, AND AG THIS NOISE COMPLAINT. I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU TAKING ME THROUGH THE BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE IN THE POCKET PARK AND HOW OFFICERS RESPOND TO NOISE COMPLAINTS IN GENERAL AND OK, AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, I WAS VERY DIRECT IN MY CRITICISM TO HOW THE OFFICER RESPONDED TO THE COMPLAINT AND HOW THE PARK HANDLED THE SITUATION. I WAS WRONG.

PLEASE ACCEPT MY APOLOGY. AND I THANK HIM FROM APOLOGIZING FOR THAT. AND SO, MY FINAL COMMENT IS WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS APPROPRIATE OR NOT, IN THIS CASE, THE POLICE DID EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. THE POLICE OFFICER WAS PROFESSIONAL. HE WAS COURTEOUS AND REQUESTED THE VOLUME BE TURNED DOWN. THE STREET PERFORMER WAS NOT ASKED TO LEAVE AND I COMMEND THE DEPARTMENT FOR A JOB WELL DONE.

THANKS. >> AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY, FINALLY, THIS IS A CITY OF 12,000 PEOPLE.

IF YOU COULD PUT UP ONE THAT ONE OTHER SLIDE.

IT JUST HAS THE NOISE COMPLAINTS FROM 2015 AND IT'S ACROSS THE

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BECAUSE OF, ESSENTIALLY, ONE BAR A NEWSPAPER NUMBER OF YEARE RESTAURANT, WE'RE TALKING WHAT HAS WORKED QUITE WELL TO THE CITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND TRYING TO FIX A PROBLEM FOR AS, YOU POINTED OUT FOR ONE FACILITY.

AND I THINK WE'RE THROWING THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER.

THE CURRENT ORDINANCE HAS WORKED WELL FOR YEARS AND IT SHOULD BE MAINTAINED AND TWEAKED AS PER WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAID AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE HAD A NOISE ORDINANCE IN THE PAST WHICH HAD NOISE METERS AND THAT WAS BACK IN -- IT WAS ORDINANCE 833, BACK IN 1990, WHERE WE USED NOISE METERS AND BACK IN 2006, BECAUSE ORDINANCE, WHEREAS THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AS PROVED DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE WHEN NECESSARY. SO THEY GOT RID OF THE NOISE METERS AND THE CLEARLY AUDIBLE STANDARD HAS BEEN APPROVED AND NOT BEING CONSTITUTIONALLY VAGUE BY THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES IN 1949, ESSENTIALLY.

AND THAT WAS 70 YEARS EIGHT. AGO.

THEY'VE SAID IT IS AUDIBLE AND IT'S REASONABLE STANDARD AND THEY OFF PROVED IT. AND SO I THINK -- AND I WILL VOTE TO A VOTE AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK THAT WE REVISIT OUR PREVIOUS ORDINANCE AND TWEAK IT AS PER WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY RECOMMENDED AND SEE HOW THINGS WORK OUT. APPARENTLY THE VOTE HOUSE IS COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT HOPEFULLY WILL FIX THIS PROBLEM AND FINALLY, MY LAST COMMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY FIRST WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ON THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT'S BEEN BEEN PROPOSED.

>> I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, THAT I WAS HERE WHEN WE CHANGED IT TO THE PLAINLY AUDIBLE STANDARD.

WE DID RESEARCH AND YEARS LATER, SINCE 2009, WHEN WE DID THAT, AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN IN AND THE STANDARD IS STILL UPHELD.

THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH ENFORCEMENT FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT WITH SOUND METRERS OR DESSABLE METERS AND LEGAL PROBLEMS AND JUST TON, TONIGE HAD FOUR PEOPLE GIVE YOU EVIDENCE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT 8T IS A GOOD DECIBEL LEVEL.

YOU THINK THIS WILL BE FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS, ADULT, AND THERE WILL BE CHALLENGES. S THERE WERE TWO WORDS, POLITICL AND CHURCH. AND I AGREED WITH HER AND SAID WE WOULD TWEAK THE ORDINANCE. AND THAT WAS IT AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE GOING BACK AND FORTH AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE AN EXPERT ON WHAT THE BEST THINGS ARE.

YOU ASKED ME AS A CITY ATTORNEY AND IT'S PLAINLY AUDIBLE AND IT WILL WORK INTO THE FUTURE AND THIS YEAR, THE 11TH CIRCUIT CIRT COURT OF APPEALS BEFORE THE U.S. SUPREME COURT THAT COVERS OUR AREA OF FLORIDA, ALABAMA, GEORGIA, A CASE OUT OF ALABAMA WAS , THAT WAS UPHELD AND NOISE METERS WILL CAUSE ISSUES FOR THE POLICE AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

>> THANK YOU. I DO APPRECIATE IT AND MY OPINION ABOUT THIS IS IT IS A DIFFERENT BUILDING AND A DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN ANY OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS AND I

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I DEW THINK DON'T THINK THN EITHER LOCATION.

I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE PLAINLY AUDIBLE NOISE ORDINANCE AND EXTEND IT TO 200 FEET AND CALL IT A DAY.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT BE IN AGREANCE BUT IF WE EXTEND IT TO 200 FEET AND THEY DO THE PRACTICES OF SOUND DEADENING AND WORKING WITH SOMEBODY, THAT WILL CUT THE SOUND NOISE DOWN AND THAT CURES THE PROBLEM. THAT'S MY OPINION.

THANK YOU, MR. VICE MAYOR. AND YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THE SOLUTION THAT I THOUGHT WOULD WORK FOR THE TEAM AND MONTREAL, I FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THIS VIDEO FOR HIGHLIGHTING WHAT WE ALL KNOW IS ONE OF OUR EXCELLENT POLICE OFFICERS, ONE OF OUR GREAT FEPD, WHAT I BELIEVE IS HAPPY TO ENFORCE A BAD LAW. BECAUSE IT WAS LOUD, BECAUSE EVEN ACOUSTIC WOULD BE ABLE TO BE HEARD FROM 100 FEET AWAY AND STILL IN VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE.

A STREET PERFORMER COULD BE HEARD FROM 100 AWAY.

I COULD BE HEARD FROM 100 FEET AWAY AND PEOPLE CAN HEAR ME FROM IS 100 FEET AWAY.

THAT IS WHY I FEEL WE HAD TO MAKE A CHANGE.

THIS IS MY SOLUTION AND I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE ELSE'S SOLUTION TO

THE PROBLEM, AS WELL. >> MIKE.

>> CAN WE TURN THE LIGHTS DOWN OFF OF THE SCREEN AND DALE, WOULD YOU PUT THAT UP FOR ME, PLEASE.

I'LL SHOW YOU IF WE GO TO PLAINLY AUDIBLE, WHAT THAT MEANS? AND CAN YOU BLOW THAT UP FOR ME, PLEASE? CAN YOU BLOW THAT UP?

>> PROBABLY NOT. HERE IS CITY HALL AND HERE IS THE BOATHOUSE AND THE GREEN TURTLE WHERE THE BAND PLAYS.

WHERE THE GREEN TURTLE TO THE AMP, IT'S 435 FEET.

FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE HAMPTON INN TO PAJAMA DAVES, IT'S 74 4 AND 70 FEET TO THE FRONT DOOR. AND 150 FEET TAKES YOU TO THIS RESTAURANT AND 200 FEET TAKES YOU TO THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT NEXT TO THAT RESTAURANT. THERE'S PAJAMA.GOVS.

PAJAMA DAVES. IF YOU GO 150 SOUTH, YOU GET BEHIND THIS PARKING LOT BEHIND THIS BUILDING AND IF YOU GO TO 200 FEET, YOU'RE GOING TO HIT THE LINE OF THE TOWNHOUSES.

AND A POLICE OFFICER STANDING 200 FEET WILL HEAR THE BOATHOUSE AND A POLICE OFFICER STANDING 200 FEET THIS WAY WILL HEAR THE BOATHOUSE AND NOT ONLY WILL HE HEAR THE BOATHOUSE BUT PAJAMA DAVE'S DURING THE WEEK AND THERE'S IS MR. COSTA'S HOUSE AND SHE CAN CALL THE COPS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

SO PLAINLY AUDIBLE AT 200 FEET DOESN'T WORK.

AND THE OTHER POINT I'LL MAKE IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT, THEY'RE ALL MEASURING THEIR VOLUME.

THEY'RE ALL MEASURING HOW LOUD THEY PLAY BECAUSE WE'RE CONSIDERING A DECIBEL LEVEL AND YOU TAKE THAT OFF AND IT'S UP LIMITED ONCE AGAIN. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

LET'S LOOK AT THE GREEN TURTLE. SO, HERE IS THE GREEN TURTLE AND TO THE MIDDLE OF THIS PARKING LOT IS 200 FEET RIGHT THERE.

AND 200 FEET TO THE NORTH DOESN'T EVEN GET YOU TO THE CENTER. IT BARELY GETS YOU TO CENTER STREET. AND 150 FEET TO THE SOUTH IS HERE AND THE MIDDLE OF FLORIDA HOUSE AND 200 FEET GETS YOU TO THE SIDEWALK AND YOU STAND ON THIS SIDEWALK AND IT'S CLEARLY GOING TO BE AUDIBLE AND YOU STAND ON CENTER STREET AND IT'S CLEARLY AUDIBLE AND YOU ARE SOLVING NOTHING.

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YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MEASURE. AND WE'RE SEEING THE IMPACT OF THE MEASURE BECAUSE I CAN'T EVEN HEAR THE BOATHOUSE.

TWO MONTHS ERRING AGO I SATT CHAIR AND COULD HEAR IT BECAUSE WE WERE USING CLEARLY AUDIBLE. YOU HAVE TO DO BETTER THAN THAT BECAUSE THAT SOLVES NOTHING AND THAT'S MY POINT, VICE MAYOR, AND

THANK YOU. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND WE'VE HAD -- WE GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE WHERE ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS. AND FIRST OF ALL, THE CITY OF 12,000 PEOPLE, AND WE'RE FOCUSING ON THREE TINY LITTLE THINGS. WE'RE NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DOGS. WE'RE NOT TAKING INTO OFF ACCOUNT THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR OR THE BAND ON THE ROOFTOP.

IT'S A CITY OF 12,000 PEOPLE AND I HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN, ONE PLACE. AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT CHART I HAD UP THERE, THERE WERE LOT EVER OF COMPLAINTS ACROSS THE CITY AND HOW MANY ENDED UP IN A CITATION. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM ACROSS THE CITY. YOU'RE MAKING IT LIKE PEOPLE DON'T CALL IN. YEAH, I CAN HEAR THE BANDS UP AT MY HOUSE AND I LIVE AT 210 NORTH THIRD STREET.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T CALL IN. IT'S NOT BEEN A PROBLEM.

MOST PEOPLE GET ALONG. IT'S WHEN IT BECOMES A PROBLEM THEY CALL IN AND WHY DON'T -- WE NOW HAVE A SOLUTION THAT THE BOATHOUSE HAS COME FORWARD WITH AND LET'S GIVE THIS ANOTHER -- WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS THAT WE GO BACK, CHANGE THE TWO WORDS IN THE ORDINANCE, GIVE THIS TWO OR THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS SEE IF IT WORKS AND IF MRS. ACOSTA AND WE CAN LIVE WITH IT AND THE HOTEL AND IF EVERYBODY GETS ALONG, THERE HASN'T BEEN A PROBLEM UNTIL THE BOATHOUSE CAME.

WE'RE IN A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE GET ALONG AND THEY DON'T CALL AND I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THE NORTH ORDINANCE. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH, I MEAN, THIS WHOLE ORDINANCE HAS ALL KINDS OF

PROBLEMS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED. >> VICE MAYOR, CAN I RESPOND?

>> SURE. >> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, THE PROBLEM EMANATED WITH THE BOATHOUSE.

NO NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH, APRIL, SIX MONTHS LATER, HAVE THEY DONE ONE DARN THING? THE ANSWER IS NO. , NO.

THEY MADE PROMISES AND THEY'VE HAD SIX MONTHS AND NOT ONE DARN THING HAS CHANGED OTHER THAN WE SET DECIBEL LEVELS AND GUESS WHAT? NOW WE DON'T HEAR THEM.

AND NOW WE DON'T HEAR THEM. SO IF YOU WANT TO WAIT ANOTHER SIX MONTHS, AND WE HAVE TO CALL AND WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH SOBEIT. THAT'S THE POINT I'LL MAKE.

>> DAVE? >> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

>> WE DON'T HAVE AN ENFORCEABLE LAW CURRENTLY BECAUSE THE ONE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY WRITTEN, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, HAD CITATIONS TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENFORCEABLE.

SO I AGREE WITH CHIP, AND I'LL GO BACK AND REMOVE THAT AND THEY CAME TO THE HDC TO PUT UP BLOCK BARRIERS AND THE HDC SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. WE'RE NOT ALLOWING YOU TO PUT THESE BARRIERS UP. SO THEY ARE WILLING TO SPEND THE MONEY. I SPOKE TO ONE OF THE OWNERS MYSELF AND THEY ARE WILLING TO SPEND THE MONEY TO DO THESE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. AND SO, IF WE GO BACK TO THE SAME STANDARD AND LET THEM TAKE TIME AND SUBMIT IT, GIVE THEM A TIME PERIOD, I THINK THAT WE CAN COME TO A RESOLUTION.

I THINK THAT IT WILL HAPPEN. >> SO OK, NOW I GET MY TURN.

>> YOU DO.

>> AS BEFORE, I VOTED AGAINST THE DECIBEL AND I'M VOTING

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(ROLE CALL) >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OFF ADOPT A PREVIOUS ORDINANCE WITH THE CHANGES AS

PROPOSED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. >> CHANGES BEING THE TWO ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY THEIR ATTORNEY?

>> SO THE FIRST CHANGE AS I PRESENTED THE FIRST TIME WAS TAKE OUT POLITICAL AND CHURCH AND ANY CONTENTS AND SPECIFIC TERMS. AND THEN I WILL HAVE TO KNOW IN THE MOTION HOW MANY FEET YOU WANTED TO BE.

IT'S AT ONE HUNDRED FEET, PLAINLY AUDIBLE AND THE OTHER IS COMES ACROSS THE EXEMPTIONS FOR, BASICALLY, THE MILLS, THE FOREST PRODUCT'S MANUFACTURING MILLS, THERE'S A MODEL NOISE ORDINANCE FOR FLORIDA AND THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS TO COVER THEM AND I WILL RUN THEM BY COMMISSIONER BEAN AND MR. SCHMIDT FROM WEST ROCK WHO CONTACTED ME SPECIFICALLY TO MAKE SURE BEFORE IT COMES BACK, WHICH WOULD BE MAY 4TH, AS OUR PLAN THAT THEY ARE OK AND THAT'S AGREEABLE. THE MILLS AND THE INDUSTRIAL USERS WE KNOW RIGHT NOW ARE EXEMPT.

THAT'S THE PROPOSAL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE TALKY

MANAGER, PLEASE. >> YOU MAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO MY MOTION WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE WITH THE SAME FOOTAGE IN IT PREVIOUSLY WITH THE CHANGES THAT YOU MADE WITH THE TWO WORDS AND TO LOOK AT REFINING THE WORD INDUSTRIAL.

>> SECOND. >> OK, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND DISCUSSION? VICE MAYOR? THAT'S PROBABLY ME. I APOLOGIZE.

COMMISSIONER STURGIS? >> I BRIEFLY WANT TO MENTION EXTENDING THE FOOT, MAYBE 50 OVER 100 FEET MORE AND THAT'S JUST MY THINKING OF HOW TO CHANGE THINGS SLIGHTLY TO MAKE THEM WORK, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO WORK WITH IT AND FIGURE IT OUT UNDER THE SAME FEET, I CAN GO THAT DIRECTION TEMPORARILY BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL KNOW SHORTLY WITHIN IN A MONTH OR SO WHETHER IT WILL FIX IT OR NOT.

SO ANYWAY, THAT WAS JUST MY POINT.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND OR NOT?

>> NO, I HAVE NOT. I'LL SECOND CHIP'S MOTION.

>> YOU MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION AND I LIKED THE FIRST PART THAT SAYS THE POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS WOULD BE REMOVED BUT YOU LIKE THE OLD EXEMPTIONS. THERE'S TO REASON TO CHANGE THEM AND THEY'VE NEVER BEEN CHALLENGED BEFORE AND SO, I SEE NO REASON TO FIX SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BROKEN.

IF WE'RE NOT FIXING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BROKEN, WHY NOT LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS. SO THAT'S MY MOTION.

>> JUST SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR MOTION --

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> -- YOU DON'T WANT TO MESS

WITH THE STRUCTURAL INDUS? >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> I ACCEPT YOUR MOTION AND SECOND YOUR MOTION.

>> SECOND READING ON THIS. WE WOULD REQUIRE A SECOND

READING. >> WE'RE GOING TO THIRD READING AND FOURTH READING, POTENTIALLY, WHICH IS FINE.

THIS IS WHAT WE DID BEFORE. WE HAD SIX READINGS IN 2010 AND 2017. AND SO, MAY 4 FOURTH, WE'RE GOG

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>> IN THE INTERIM, WE WILL NOT HAVE AN ENFORCEABLE STATEMENT.

>> WE DO NOT. AND I WOULD JUST, FOR THE LAST TIME, I NORMALLY AM NOT THIS MUCH OF AN ADVOCATE, I'M VERY WORRIED, COMMISSIONER BEAN, ABOUT WHAT THE LANGUAGE SAYS.

I HAVE EVERY INTENTION, IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS NOTHING TO TO WITH HOW LOUD THE BOATHOUSE IS -- AND SORRY TO PICK ON THE BOATHOUSE -- AND MISS JAMESON SAYS WE DO A CITATION AND WE HAVE A CONSENT SPECIFIC THING.

I WANT TO RESEARCH IT AND LEAVE IT OPEN TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT IS AGREERABLE O YOU.

IN THE TITLE IT SAYS EXCEPTIONIONS.

GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESEARCH IT AND SHOW YOU WHAT I MEAN TO MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW WHAT THE INTENTION IS, EXEMPT THE MILLS, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE -- IF WE HAVE FOREST PRODUCT'S MANUFACTURING PLANT AND THAT'S FINE AND I CHANGE WITH ONE OF MY CONSTITUTIONAL COLLEAGUES, THEN I'M GREAT.

I JUST AM A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS ABOUT THAT AND IF WE SAY THAT'S THE WORDS IN STONE AND I COME BACK NEXT TIME AND GUESS WHAT, GUYS, IT'S CHANGED NOW AND WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER READING AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE INTENTION OF THE COMMISSION.

IF FOREST PRODUCTS MANUFACTURING PLANT WORKS THAT'S LAWFUL, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT, TOO, BUT IF IT DOESN'T WORK, I'LL SHOW YOU WHY IT DOESN'T WORK AND WHAT WE CAN DO, TOO.

I CAN EVEN CALL WHITNEY IN YOUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND FIND OUT THEY THINK. I WANT TO WORK WITH THE MULLS. .

I DON'T WANT AN ORDINANCE THAT'S CHALLENGEABLE TO GET TO A SPOT

ENFORCING IT. >> IN GILBERT, WE FOUND YOU CONSAY THINGS LIKE REAL ESTATE SIGNS ARE ALLOWED OR NOT ALLOWED. YOU CONSAY COULDN'T SAY THIE IDENTIFYING PLACES THAT THIS -- IN YOUR REGULATIONS, YOU CAN'T MORE THAN TWO REAL ESTATE SIGNS. THAT WAS THE EXAMPLE IN YOUR YARD. WELL, REAL ESTATE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICAL. YOU'RE THINKING OF TYPES OF SPEECH, I BELIEVE, UNDER FIRST AMENDMENT, COMMERCIAL SPEECH, POLITICAL SPEECH, RELIGIOUS SPEECH AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONTENT SPECIFIC AND CONTENT NEUTRAL, THE COURTS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CASES AND A LOT OF THEM ARE SIGNED CASES AND A LOT OF THEM ARE PARADES AND THE ONES THAT ARE MOST RECENT ARE ABOUT LOUD SPEAKERS AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING

>> THAT'S WHAT I MEAN ABOUT CONTENT SPECIFIC. I WILL BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN THAT YOU OFF-LINE AND THEY WILL HEAR ME, THEY ARE WATCHING. WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF EXEMPTING THAT USE. I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WRONG LANGUAGE AND I AM JUST TRYING TO SAY, MY FEET TONIGHT NOT SEND YOU DOWN THE WRONG PATH. SELECT OKAY.

IF WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT SPECIFIC WORDING I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SOME SPECIFIC WORDING AND ADD IT BACK IN RIGHT NOW THE SAYS ÃINDUSTRIAL.

>> I SUBMIT TO YOU I CAN ACCEPT FORCE PRODUCTS MANUFACTURING PLANT BUT I NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THAT CATEGORY OR THAT SPECIFICITY OF TYPES OF MANUFACTURING WILL NOT BE MORE CONTENT SPECIFIC. SYSTEMIC IN THAT CASE I WOULD LIKE TO LET KEMY AMENDMENT STAN AS IT IS AND YOU CAN LET ME KNOW IF IT'S A PROBLEM.

>> OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH.

>> NOW WE HAVE A SECOND AMENDMENT I WOULD LIKE TO GET A VIRTUAL ONE PASSED TO MY SECOND

ONE IS. >> WE DID NOT VOTE YET.

[02:50:04]

>> WHAT IS YOUR AMENDMENT? >> MY FIRST AMENDMENT TO MAKE SURE WE LEAVE THE FULL EXEMPTIONS IN.

>> OKAY. THAT'S FINE.

>> EXCELLENT. >> WE CAN VOTE ON THAT.

>> YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT?

>> YES. >> AND WE ARE CHANGING THE Ã ARE YOU READY MADAME CLERK ABOUT THE AMENDMENT? WHY DON'T WE VOTE ON THE

AMENDMENT? >> IS THERE A COMMISSION TO

MOVE COMMISSIONERS. [INDISCERNIBLE] >>.

>> ALL RIGHT, THE AMENDMENT PASSED, 5-0. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE

COMMISSIONER ROSS MOTION? >> COMMISSIONER BEING?

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR HAVE ONE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.

100 FEET IS VERY VERY SOFT, JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS CLEAR ON THAT.

IF YOU CAN HEAR ME FROM 100 FEET AWAY, AND CAN YOU HEAR ME FROM 150 FEET AWAY IF I WAS TALKING LOUD ENOUGH YOU COULD PROBABLY HEAR ME FROM 200 FEET AWAY.

IT'S PLAINLY AUDIBLE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS STANDARD, WE HAVE A PROBLEM THE PEOPLE ARE HERE TONIGHT, THE PEOPLE CAME AND TURNED OUT AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE SAME ORDINANCE THAT CAUSES PROBLEMS IN THE PAST. BOTH TIMES, WE NEED TO CHANGE SOMETHING AND THE THING I WOULD SAY IT NOW, WE HAVE TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE A LITTLE BIT.

NOT BUDGING AT ALL, THE WAY I SAY MEET IN THE MIDDLE, MY Ã I'VE MOVED TO AMEND IT FROM 100 TO 150, IT'S ALMOST IDENTICAL EXCEPT I HAVE A MOTION, DO I HEAR A SECOND?

>> MOTION, SECOND, DISCUSSION. >> JUST BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. REMEMBER, YOUR NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR WEDNESDAY HAVE THAT

WHEN I COME BY IF YOU WANT, I WILL PLAY IT AT 80 DECIBELS >> I SAID HUNDRED AND 50.

>> 150 FEET FROM YOUR HOUSE AND I GO WITH IT AND I START PLAYING MY BOOMBOX THAT'S A PROBLEM. IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD REMEMBER, THIS ISN'T JUST DOWNTOWN , THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S MY CONCERN.

I AM NOT GOING TO DIE OF THIS HILL OF 50 FEET BUT MY CONCERN IS, YOUR NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CLOSE TOGETHER, CONDOMINIUMS AND APARTMENTS THAT'S MY CONCERN.

>> YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON. >> AND HOW THIS ORDINANCE WORKS, IF YOU PLAY A BOOMBOX AND YOU CAN HEAR IT AT ALL LIKE WITHOUT THIS AMENDMENT, IF YOU CAN HEAR IT FROM 100 FEET AWAY THAT'S A VIOLATION SO IS NOT WITHIN A CERTAIN FEET FROM THE HOUSE IT IS IF YOU ARE STANDING HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM THE BOOMBOX AND SO EVEN IF YOU WERE WITHIN 70 FEET IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW CLOSE YOU ARE IT'S ABOUT HOW FAR AWAY YOU HAVE TO STAND TO HEAR THE BOOMBOX SO THAT'S WHY IF WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THIS METRIC, WHICH I BELIEVE IS EXTREMELY DESCRIPTIVE ON EVERYTHING YOU CAN HEAR A LOT OF THINGS AND TO A POINT, SOMEONE MADE EARLIER, WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU CAN HEAR IT EVEN WITHOUT MUSIC PLAYING, I KNOW FOR INSTANCE, THERE ARE CERTAIN BARS AND RESTAURANTS, JUST PEOPLE TALKING CAN BE HEARD FROM 100 FEET AWAY AND ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO COMMISH ISSUE EVERYBODY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TALKING?I WANT TO SAY, IT'S 50 FEET, LET'S ADD. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> COMMISSIONER BEING MADE A MOTION AND IT HAS NOT BEEN SECONDED.

>> YES MA'AM. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. >>.

[INDISCERNIBLE] TO THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. CAN YOU CALL A VOTE ON THAT

PLEASE? >> THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS TO

INCREASE IT FROM 100 250 FEET. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>>.

>> IT'S RIDICULOUS. >> NO.

>> THAT MOTION PASSES. THE AMENDMENT PASSES. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE.

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[INDISCERNIBLE] >> WE DID 2 AMENDMENTS AND WE ARE GETTING TO THE ORDINANCE,

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ? >> NOT TONIGHT.

>> HEARING NONE, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE?

>>.

WE WILL HEAR 1/3 READING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYONE NEED A BREAK? [INDISCERNIBLE] 9.1. [INDISCERNIBLE]

[9.1 E-BIKE SPEED LIMIT & GREENWAY PROHIBITION]

>> I CAN SPEAK LOUDLY ORDINANCE 2021-02 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA EFFECTIVE THE CODE OF ORDINANCES THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH ORGANIST BY AMENDING CHAPTER 78 TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES ARTICLE 1 IN GENERAL BY AMENDING SECTION 1 DEFINITIONS TO INCLUDE ELECTRIC BICYCLES BY AMENDING ARTICLE 2 ON OPERATION OF VEHICLES BY AMENDING SECTION 41 TO INCLUDE A SPEED LIMIT ON SIDEWALKS, TRAILS AND PASS BY AMENDING SECTION 43 TO PROHIBIT ELECTRIC BICYCLES ON EGAN SKEGREENWAY AN AMENDING SECTIONS 1 THROUGH 841 THROUGH 45 FOR CLARITY WITHOUT CHANGING THE MEANING.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS THE SECOND AND FINAL READING FROM THE E BIKES ON THE GREENWAY. THIS IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING

MR. MAYOR. >> PUBLIC HEARING OPEN I HAVE SEVERAL REQUESTS TO SPEAK ADD THE FIRST IS JACOB BROWN HEART? IFYOU WOULD PLEASE COME TO THE LECTERN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS .

>> I AM JACOB BROWN HEART MY ADDRESS IS 1005 S. 14TH UNITY. I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE TODAY WAS I WAS OUT HIKING ON THE GREENWAY AND I THINK SOME OF YOU KNOW JULIE, SHE MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE ABOUT ELECTRIC BIKES AND SHE KIND OF LEFT IT AT THAT AND SHE ASKED IF I WANTED TO COME IN HERE ABOUT IT AND WE PARTED WAYS AND I WAS THINKING ON A LOT AND IT REALLY BAFFLED ME THIS WOULD EVEN BE A TOPIC TO HAVE ELECTRIC BIKES AND ANIMAL SANCTUARIES WHICH I ALWAYS CONSIDERED TO BE JUST IN MY WALK AND THINKING ABOUT THIS, PROBABLY 15 MINUTES HAD PASSED AND I'M JUST REALLY ENJOYING LISTENING TO ALL OF THE BIRDS AND WATCHING THE TURTLES AND THE GATORS AND EVERYTHING AND IT'S JUST SCARY QUIET AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAS JUST HAPPENED THERE ARE NO BIRDS CHIRPING ALL OF THE TURTLES JUMPED INTO THE WATER AND I TURNED AND I LOOKED BEHIND ME AND HERE COMES THESE TWO BICYCLES, COMING AT ME JUST REALLY FAST COMING DOWN TOWARDS ME AND THE GUY YELLS, KEN, THAT'S KEN. THE LADY GOES WHAT?ND HE SAID THAT'S 10.

AND SHE SAID I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH YOU AND I AM THINKING THESE TWO ARE COMING, IT'S TOO FAST. I HAVE MY DOGS WITH ME I AM TRYING TO GET THEM, I ALWAYS TRY TO PULL THEM TO THE SIDE TO LET PEOPLE PASS BUT THEY ARE JUST COMING REALLY QUICKLY AND THERE YELLING TO EACH OTHER BECAUSE THE SPEED HAS AFFECTED THEIR HEARING AND THE ANIMALS KNEW THAT THEY WERE COMING BEFORE I DID. BEFORE MY DOGS DID.IKE EVERYTHING HAD JUST GOTTEN QUIET AND IT OCCURRED TO ME AFTER THEY PASSED BY THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY MEASURING HOW FAST THEY WERE GOING AND THEY WERE SHOWING HOW FAST 10 MILES AN HOUR IS ON A REGULAR BICYCLE. AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING THE ELECTRIC BICYCLES WOULD BE ALLOWED TO GO 20 AND THAT JUST BAFFLES ME THAT WE WOULD PUT THE ENVIRONMENT IN THAT SITUATION WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO HAVE THEIR FAMILIES, THEY ARE TRYING TO RAISE THEIR BABIES WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT THEM AND THE BEAUTY OF THIS ISLAND BY HAVING THEM THERE. I REALLY FEEL LIKE HAVING ANYTHING OVER 10 I THINK ANYTHING OVER FIVE TO BE HONEST IS MY OWN OPINION, IS HARMFUL AND DISRUPTIVE TO THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE ARE HERE TRYING TO PROTECT. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK

[03:00:05]

TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MR. JOHN KEEGAN. >> STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS

FOR THE RECORD. >> 4441 BEING STREET I WANT TO THANK THE PREVIOUS ÃFORGIVE ME WARMED UP. I STRONGLY BELIEVE BANNING E BIKES ANYWHERE INCLUDING THE GREENWAY SOUND THWARTED BY CIRCUMSTANCES NOT SUPPORTED BY FACTS AND PROVEN TO BE UNPOPULAR. WHY? THE SPEED LIMIT WHICH ADDRESSES 90+ PERCENT OF THE COMPLAINTS WHAT IS THE LOGIC BEHIND ALLOWING BIKES BUT NOT ASSISTED BIKES?E BIKES ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT LEGALLY HANDICAPPED BUT HAVE PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS. THE GREENWAY IS A GREAT PLACE TO BIKE WITHOUT COMPETITION FROM CARS AND TRUCKS I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY RELATED TO BIKE TIRES. THIS IS A WHEEL FROM A MINIBIKE. THIS IS A WHEEL FROM A ÃBIKE THEY ARE IDENTICAL.

THIS IS A CONTACT POINT IN THE GREENWAY. SOMEBODY HAS TO TELL ME WHERE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IS. LASTLY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT GREENWAY WAS APPROVED FOR WALKERS AND BIKES AND DESIGNATED AS PART OF THE STATE SYSTEM OF TRAILS AND SOME OF THE LAND WAS PURCHASED IN PART OF THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST THE STIPULATION FOR BIKES WITH SEEM TO SPEAK CLEARLY TO THE INTENDED PURPOSE OF THIS PART. AND HOW IT WOULD BE UTILIZED.

AND I AM ÃIS SOMEONE GOING TO CHANGE THE LITERATURE AND INFORMATION ON THE WEB ABOUT BIKING ON THE GREENWAY? WITH ISSUES LIKE THE PREVIOUS ONE I DON'T KNOW WHY THE COMMISSION WOULD JUMP TO BAN SOMETHING BASED ON A SMALL HANDFUL OF CHRONIC COMPLAINERS.

TIME DOESN'T PERMIT A DISCUSSION KATHY WILSON CLOSED WITH QUOTE MY PERSONAL FEELING I BELIEVE THE FEELING OF PEDESTRIANS AND NATURE LOVERS IN OTHER WORDS SORRY BIKERS WHO DON'T LOVE NATURE CLEARLY YOUR PERSPECTIVE DOESN'T COUNT. WHAT MAKES THE RIGHTS OF WALKER SUPERIOR TO CYCLISTS? THERE ARE SMALL VOCAL NUMBER OF DRIVERS AND PEDESTRIANS WHO CLEARLY DON'T LIKE TO SHARE THE ROAD OR TRAIL WAS CYCLISTS AND WOULD BE ENDLESS IF THEY COULD BY THE WAY I WOULD LIKE A BAND OF WALKERS AND JOGGERS TAKING OVER THE BIKE LANES ON SOUTH FLETCHER FORCING ME TO VEER OUT AND OVERTAKE TRAFFIC. BANNING SHOULD BE THE LAST RESORT ESPECIALLY WITH THE VOTE OF A SINGLE COMMISSIONER. GOING FROM E BIKES ARE OKAY TO BAN REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES IN THE MIDDLE PAID THE BAND SHOULD BE LIMITED TO BIGGER PROBLEMS THAN A LARGE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS. STAY ÃIS THE CASE AND I AGREE, AN OUTRIGHT BAN IS OVERKILL. LET'S HAVE THE 10 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ALONG WITH SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE AND COMMUNICATION TO THE ÃTO TRY FIRST LIKE THE BUMPER STICKER

SAYS, COEXIST. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MR. ROB LUCAS. >> STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> I LIVE AT 2328 SADLER ROAD. APARTMENT 6C. BASICALLY I RIDE MY BIKE AND ALSO WALKING THERE ARE SOME TRAILS ESPECIALLY 2 MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS WITH A LOT OF TIGHT TURNS. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO SEEING YOU BIKES AND OTHER PLACES ON THE ISLAND BUT I THINK YOU ARE ASKING FOR TROUBLE WITH FOLKS THAT ARE FAMILIAR, MAYBE THEY ARE OFF ISLAND AND THEY SPEED ON THOSE BIKES BECAUSE THE E BIKES WILL BE ABLE TO GO MUCH FASTER THAN A PEDAL BIKE. I AM REALLY AFRAID THERE WILL BE A CHILD WALKING AND SOME OF THOSE TIGHT TRAILS AND SOMEONE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TRAIL COMES AROUND I ONE OF THOSE E BIKES AND NOW YOU HAVE A LAWSUIT WITH THE CHILD BEING INJURED MAYBE SOMEONE IS DODGING ONE OF THE GATORS ON THE TRAILER MOCCASIN OR SOMETHING AND THEY VEER INTO SOME PEOPLE AND I JUST THINK A BICYCLE AT LEAST, IT'S SO FAST AND YOU CAN PUT IT INTO ENFORCEMENT WITH THE SIGN BUT YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SPEED ON THOSE BIKES OUT THERE AND MAYBE A SOLUTION WOULD BE TO HAVE ONE OR TWO DAYS WHEN YOU BIKES ARE ALLOWED FOR PEOPLE THAT MAY BE DUE NOT PHYSICALLY THERE NOT PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF RIDING A BICYCLE THAT WOULD GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO COME OUT THERE AND DO IT BUT TO HAVE IT WIDE OPEN ESPECIALLY IN THE DARKER HOURS OF THE NIGHT AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ABUSE IT AND LIKE I

[03:05:03]

SAID, >> THANK YOU SIR. >>

>> MY NAME IS JULIE FERRERO 5018 STREET THESE ARE PICTURES TODAY I TOOK OF THE GREENWAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT IF THE CITY ALLOWS E BIKES ON THE GREENWAY THAT WE ARE UNPREPARED AND ALL THE BEST PRACTICES OF GREENWAY MANAGEMENT WILL NEED TO CHANGE AND THAT MEANS STAFF TIME, THAT MEANS MONEY. SO THE FIRST PICTURE ON THE NORTH GREENWAY THAT'S THE EXODUS FROM THE BEACH ONTO THE GREENWAY THERE IS LOOSE GRAVEL IS HARD TO SEE IN THE PICTURE THERE'S A LOT OF EROSION BACK THERE WE HAVE TO SQUEEZE IN BETWEEN THE POST AND UP IT'S VERY HARD IT'S SCARY THE CITY SHOULD NEVER HAVE LOOSE GRAVEL GOING DOWNHILL.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE GREENWAY SIDE THOSE ARE PEOPLE WALKING I WAS SURPRISED ON A TUESDAY HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ON THE GREENWAY THE FOURTH PICTURE IS A PERSON ON A BICYCLE AND YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A ROUGH SURFACE THERE THE NEXT PERSON IS A MUD PUDDLE WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS ON THE GREENWAY WE KNOW THAT THE E BIKES ARE HERE TO SAY.

PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE TO RECREATE AND I WOULD SAY THERE'S ONLY ONE PLACE TO RENT BICYCLES THESE DAYS EVERYTHING ELSE IS RENTING IN A BIKE I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED ON THE GREENWAY SO THIS IS ROUGH SURFACES THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY HAVE A HARD TIME MANEUVERING AND WALKING AND I JUST THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE EVERYTHING THE NEXT PICTURE IS A TRUCK TIRE FROM THE CITY MAINTENANCE PEOPLE FILLED WITH MUD THE NEXT PICTURE IS A PERSON ON A BICYCLE AND THIS IS HEADING SOUTH ON THE NORTH GREENWAY THAT PERSON IS GOING AROUND A BLIND CURVE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING AT YOU.

SOMEBODY DRIVING 20 MILES AN HOUR COMING THE OTHER WAY YOU WILL NOT KNOW THEY ARE COMING.

MOVING TO THE SOUTH GREENWAY PICTURES THAT'S A WIDE OPEN AREA.

IT'S WIDE AND FLAT AND WELL-MAINTAINED. THE NEXT PICTURE IS A PERSON A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN COMING ON A BICYCLE AROUND A BLIND CURVE AND GOING THE OTHER WAY.

NEXT PICTURE IS A MAMA GATOR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PATH TODAY AND THAT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

NEXT PICTURE ARE PEOPLE WALKING PAST THE GATOR.

>> THOSE TRAILS BACK THERE ARE NARROW IF YOU KEEP LOOKING AT THOSE PICTURES THEY ARE NARROW THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS HAVING PEOPLE. THEY HAVE EXPOSED ÃI HOPE YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE BECAUSE THOSE TRAILS DON'T NEED YOU BIKES.

>> ALL RIGHT. I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO READ THE EMAIL INTO THE RECORD FROM CHRISTINE ÃAND PART OF ME COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I WAS HANDED THIS SEVEN PARAGRAPHS SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO EDIT IT DOWN. SO JUST BEAR WITH ME SO I DON'T

[03:10:02]

THAT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT IN WHEELCHAIRS NEVERTHELESS HAVE MOBILITY CHALLENGES. MANY OF THESE CHALLENGES DUE TO INJURIES AND/OR OLDER AGE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO WRITE ANY BIKES THAT REQUIRES CONSTANT PADDLING.

SUCH AS A REGULAR OR CLASS I EVITE. WHEREAS CLASS IIE BIKES MAY BE OPERATED WITH OR WITHOUT CONSTANT PADDLING. PLEASE DON'T DENY THESE CITIZENS WITH MOBILITY CHALLENGES THE PLEASURE OF BEING ABLE TO ENJOY THE OUTDOORS ON AN E BIKE AND THE BEST WAY FOR US TO DO THAT IS ON A CLASS TO E BIKES SO THAT WE WON'T EXACERBATE OUR CONDITIONS AND/OR RISK REINJURY.

BY HAVING TO CONTINUOUSLY PUDDLE AS INDICATED WITH CLASS I E BIKES.

>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NO ONE I'M GOING TO

CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL. ANY DISCUSSIONS VICE MAYOR?

P>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE WE STARTED OUT AND WE BANNED YOU BIKES ON THE GREENWAY AND THEN WE DID NOT BAN THEM AND THEN.

[INDISCERNIBLE] MY WHOLE ISSUE WITH THE GREENWAY ACTUALLY THIS GENTLEMAN MADE AN EXCELLENT POINT. [INDISCERNIBLE] AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE ABOUT THIS WAS A PASSIVE ENVIRONMENT BICYCLES WERE ALLOWED MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS WERE.

[INDISCERNIBLE] IN THE GREENWAY AND MADE THE MISTAKE OF LETTING THEM STAY AND I AM ON THE GREENWAY PROBABLY AT LEAST FIVE DAYS A WEEK AT LEAST AN HOUR EACH TIME AND WHAT'S VERY INTERESTING IS WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAYS, THAT'S THE GREAT BURNING TRAIL.

YOU KNOW WHAT I DON'T SEE ANYMORE? YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF BIRDS ANYMORE IT'S BECAUSE OF PEOPLE BIKING. THIS CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THE STATE SAID BICYCLES WEREN'T MOTOR VEHICLES. BUT WHAT THE STATE DOESN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND IS E BIKES ARE BICYCLES WITH MOTORS. THEY HAVE MOTORS AND MOTORS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BANNED. SO I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT I THINK ENVIRONMENTALLY IT'S A DISASTER. I THINK SAFETY WISE THEY ARE GOING TO KILL SOMEONE BUT YESTERDAY IT WAS OUT THERE AND THERE WERE FIVE BIKES AND ONE OF THE FIVE, WE HAVE SCIENCE SO THAT'S A SECONDARY ISSUE. YOU CAN FIND A CASE EITHER WAY. WE CAN FIND WHATEVER WE WANT.

ARCADIA NATIONAL FOREST HAS BANNED BIKES, A BAN ON THE TRAILS BECAUSE THE TRAILS WERE ESTABLISHED ÃNO MOTOR VEHICLES. YOU CAN FIND IT THE OTHER WAY BUT I JUST THINK AND I AGREE WITH THIS GENTLEMAN YOU GET DOWN TO THE GREENWAY THEY ARE GOING TO KILL THEMSELVES AND SOMEONE ELSE AND THE CLASS TWO AND THREE HAVE BIG WHEELS.

THEY HAVE BIGGER WHEELS. >> LET'S NOT HAVE A DISCOURSE.

>> I THINK ENVIRONMENTALLY WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WE'RE GOING TO DESTROY 300 ACRES OF PEOPLE

WHO GO OUT THERE TO SEE NATURE. >> MR. STURGIS.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR I HAVE THREE POINTS AND WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A BAIT AND SWITCH.

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AND WE ONLY USE AREAS WE ARE USING WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE INCIDENT ON THE GREENWAY WERE SOMEONE HAS GOTTEN HURT BY AN E BIKE. NOT ONE.

NOW WE HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH OTHER AREAS. AS A MATTER OF FACT I HAVE TALKED TO POLICE OFFICERS ONLY THING THAT'S EVER HAPPENED WITH AN E BIKE, A MAN WAS IT THREE TIMES ON HIS E BIKE AND NONE OF THOSE WERE HIS FAULT. HE WAS RIDING WHERE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO IN A BICYCLE LANE AND THE SPEED HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WRITING AND HE WAS HIT THREE TIMES BY A CAR. I THINK THIS IS RIDICULOUS. THINK I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY THAT THESE BIKES CAN DAMAGE THE GREENWAY AND I HAVE SAID IT PRIVATELY AND NOW I'M GOING TO SAY PUBLICLY. I PERSONALLY DID MORE DAMAGE TO THE EGOS CREEK GREENWAY BEFORE IT BECAME THE GREENWAY WHEN I USED TO DRIVE MY MOTORCYCLE OUT THERE AND THERE ARE RUTS IN THE DIRT AS SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO FILL IT AND MAKE IT INTO A SUBDIVISION.

SO I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE IN SUPPORT OF ANYTHING PROHIBITING THAT YOU BIKES ON THE GREENWAY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS. THAT'S IT.

>> COMMISSIONER BEING. >>. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> THANK YOU I HAVE 2 INITIAL POINTS I DON'T THINK THE CITY SHOULD E IN THE BUSINESS OF GIVING OUT PART TIME ÃIT'S UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND I DON'T WANT TO PICK ISSUE WHAT DAY YOU CAN AND CAN'T GO OUT WITH YOUR BIKE ON THE GREENWAY I WANT TO PICK WHERE YOU CAN AND CAN'T RIDE YOUR BIKE AROUND TOWN I DON'T WANT TO PICK THOSE PLACES.

AND THAT BRINGS ME TO MY SECOND POINT I BELIEVE THAT THE EGAN'S CREEK ÃIS ONE OF OUR MOST BEAUTIFUL TREASURES THAT WE HAVE AND IT IS A GEM AND I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR AGING POPULATION THAT DEPENDS ON THESE E BIKES AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND ENJOY THE GREENWAY LIKE ANYONE ELSE AND THAT BRINGS ME TO MY FINAL POINT WHICH IS 50 YEARS FROM NOW I HOPE ÃI WILL BE 87 YEARS OLD AND I WILL BE ABLE TO RIDE MY REGULAR BIKE ANYMORE 50 YEARS FROM NOW I WANT TO RIDE MY E BIKE ON THE GREENWAY WITH MY GRANDKIDS AND FOR THAT REASON I'VE GOT TO VOTE NO.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> I GUESS I WILL WEIGH IN.

SO I HAVE GIVEN THIS A LOT OF THOUGHT AND WE ALL HAVE RECEIVED EMAILS FROM THE PUBLIC I PURCHASED A CLASS I OR CLASS II PEDAL ASSISTED BIKE AND THEY ARE NOT CHEAP.

13, 14, $1500 FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HANDICAPPED, DISABLED, ELDERLY.

I CANNOT BRING MYSELF TO DENY THOSE PEOPLE ACCESS TO THE GREENWAY.

I DO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH 30 MILE AN HOUR BIKES, CLASS III. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS INCLUDE CLASS I INTO E BIKES BUT PROHIBIT THE NON-PADDLE 30 MILE AN HOUR BIKES.

I DON'T THINK THOSE HAVE ANY PLACE ON THE GREENWAY. AND AS LONG AS YOU HAVE BICYCLISTS MR. DENNIS, MY NEIGHBOR, I HAVE SEEN HIM RIDING HIS BIKE 20 MILES AN HOUR, 22 MILES AN HOUR SO DON'T TELL ME THAT I BICYCLE GOING 22 MILES AN HOUR ISN'T GOING TO DO ANY DAMAGE. SO IF WE NEED TO KEEP THE SPEED LIMITS WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT BECAUSE NO ONE IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE. WITH A SPEEDOMETER.HE BIKES DON'T HAVE SPEEDOMETERS. WE CAN PUT UP SIGNS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS AMENDED TO INCLUDE CLASS I AND CLASS TO E BIKES.

>> I SO MOVE. >> I HAVE TO GET OUT THE GAVEL

AGAIN. >> IF SOMEONE ELSE SECONDS IT.

>> I DO HAVE TO PROVIDE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THE STATUTE IS NEW.

DOES EVERYONE KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CLASS I,TWO AND THREE ?

>> LET'S MAKE IT PEDAL ASSISTS. >> ARE YOU SAYING THE THROTTLE

ONLY >> THROTTLE ONLY PROHIBITED.

>> PERFECT. THAT HELPS.

[03:20:01]

>> THAT STILL FITS MY MOTION, CLASS I AND TWO ARE ACCEPTABLE.

>> SO SOON IF THAT'S THE BEST I'M GOING TO DO.

>> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE AMENDMENT. TO EXCLUDE THROTTLE POWERED E BIKES. SOON A POWER ASSIST.

>> TO ALLOW PEDAL ASSISTS. I'M SORRY. CITY CLERK.

WERE YOU ABLE TO GET THAT? CAN WE CALL THE VOTE ON THAT AMENDMENT?

>> IS THIS IT? >> IS THIS GOING TO GO TO 1/3?

>> COMING BACK MAY 18. >> SO WE ARE VOTING ON THE

AMENDMENT. >>.

ORDINANCE? SEEING ON, MADAME CLERK IF YOU COULD CALL THAT VOTE.

>>.

>> YOU WANT TO VOTE YES. >>.

[INDISCERNIBLE] [LAUGHTER] >> IS THAT A YES OR NO?

>> IT'S A YES. >> IS THE ORIGINAL.

>> >> THIS IS WHY HE DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE THE RULES.

>> THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT, ORIGINAL ORDINANCE AS AMENDED.

>> IT'S REALLY SIMPLE. >> PLEASE CONTINUE.

>> IF IT'S AMENDED I AM SAYING YES.

>> MEANING YOU ARE OKAY WITH PEDAL ASSISTS BIKES ON THE GREENWAY.

>>.

>> ALL RIGHT. ITEM 10.1 CODE ENFORCEMENT AND. [INDISCERNIBLE]

[10.1 CODE ENFORCEMENT AND APPEALS BOARD]

>> >> TO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND?

>> >> I MOVED TO APPROVE TRAVIS YOUNG.

>> SECOND. VICE MAYOR?

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, MADAME CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>>.

[11. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

WE ARE ONTO THE CITY MANAGER. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR WE WILL PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF AT THE WORKSHOP I WILL DISTRIBUTE A MEMORANDUM IN RESPONSE TO THE BILLING DEPARTMENT WORKSHOP CAST PRESENTED TO ME ON APRIL 6 CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP THERE WERE SEVEN TASKS, EIGHT TASKS THAT WERE ASSIGNED TO ME SO I WILL GO OVER THEM ONE BY ONE.

REVIEW THE CONCEPT OF A CONSTRUCTION APPEALS COURT ACTUALLY 2 BOARD FOR APPEALS EXIST AT THE CITY LEVEL COURTROOM ÃCODE ENFORCEMENT APPEALS BOARD I HAVE ATTACHED A COPY OF THE CITY REGULATION AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR A BUILDING COMMISSION A COMMISSION ON THE DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL REGULATION. IF YOU FLIP TO THE SECOND COMPLETE PAGE THAT IS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND IF YOU FLIP TO THE BACKSIDE IT LISTS MEMBERSHIP OF WHO SHOULD BE QUALIFIED TO SIT ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD OF APPEALS.

QUALIFICATIONS IT SAYS THE MEMBERSHIP OF CODE ENFORCEMENT SHOULD WHENEVER POSSIBLE INCLUDE PERSONS IN THE FOLLOWING FIELDS. AN ARCHITECT BUSINESSPERSON

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>> CAN YOU STOP FOR DISCUSSION? SO TO JOG EVERYONE'S MEMORY. SO WE DO HAVE THESE BOARDS IN PLACE HOWEVER THEY MEET ONCE A MONTH. THERE WAS URGENCY THAT WE HEARD FROM PEOPLE AT THE WORKSHOP ABOUT HAVING A VERY QUICK RESOLUTION TO CONSTRUCTION ISSUE DISPUTES AND THE NEED FOR A CONSTRUCTION APPEALS BOARD THAT WOULD MEET EVERY WEEK IN ORDER TO HEAR AND RESOLVE THESE ISSUES IN A TIMELY MANNER.MY UNDERSTANDING IS AND HELP ME HERE, DO WE NEED TO CREATE, IF WE WERE TO CREATE SUCH A BOARD, WOULD WE DO THAT BY RESOLUTION?

>> YES. >> WE WOULD REQUIRE RESOLUTION BE PLACED ON THE CITY COMMISSION AGENDA AND VOTED ON BY THIS COMMISSION SO WE WOULD NEED CONSENSUS TO INSTRUCT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO CRAFT SUCH A RESOLUTION.

OKAY. >> ASSIGNS LIKE A FINE IDEA BUT I THINK IN THEORY BUT IN PRACTICE YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT WILL MEET ONCE A WEEK FOR FREE AND TO Ã THESE MATTERS IN THEORY THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA IN PRACTICE IT'S HARD TO FIND PEOPLE TO SIT IN ON ANY OF THESE BOARDS SO IT LOOKS LIKE Ã HAS A BETTER IDEA. I WANT TO LISTEN TO THAT. SUE MET COMMISSIONER STURGIS.

>> I THINK LITERALLY ONCE A MONTH WOULD BE ENOUGH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT APPEALING SOMETHING THEY'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH WITH CONSTRUCTION. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT APPEALING TO THE BOARD ABOUT THE ISSUE YOU ARE HAVING WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THE PROCESS, A SPECIFIC EMPLOYEE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT MATTERS I DON'T THINK YOU WILL NEED TO MEET ONCE A WEEK I THINK THAT'S AGGRESSIVE AND PROBABLY UNREALISTIC FOR ANY BOARD I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY BOARD A FREEBOARD THAT WORKS FOR NOTHING IS GOING TO MEET ONCE A WEEK AND SPEND THAT TIME.

>> SO LET ME ASK, DO WE DO THE FIVE OF US AGREE THAT WE NEED TO FORM A CONSTRUCTION APPEALS BOARD? LET'S START THERE.

>> 2 YES. 4 YES. SO WITH THAT VICE MAYOR.

>> I AGREE I DON'T THINK. [INDISCERNIBLE] BUT I THINK SOMETIMES IT WOULD BE GOOD TO

HAVE AN EMERGENCY PROCEDURE >> WHAT I PROPOSE THAT WE DO IS TO.

[INDISCERNIBLE] IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY APPEALS SO IF YOU. [INDISCERNIBLE] YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE MEETING SO I WOULD PROPOSE THE MEET WITH A MINIMUM OF FIVE BUSINESS DAYS THAT AN AGENDA BE PUBLISHED AND AN APPEAL MAKE SURE IT GETS FILED AND THAT WOULD BE AS URGENT AS WE COULD GET TO TURN AROUND AND HAVE ÃRESPONDS.

>> WE CAN PLACE THIS ON WHAT AGENDA?

>> MAY 18. >> AND TO CLARIFY THE CURRENT CITY CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT THEY MEET MONTHLY SO YOU COULD CHANGE THE EXISTING CODE TO KEEP THE SAME PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS AND JUST ADD THE LANGUAGE TO MEET AS NEEDED.

[03:30:07]

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I THINK YOU CAN FIND THOSE PEOPLE THE INTEREST THAT HAS BEEN DRUMMED UP WITH THE COMPLAINTS WE HAVE HAD I THINK YOU WILL FIND PEOPLE WHO WOULD VOLUNTEER TO BE ON THIS BOARD TO HEAR THE COMPLAINTS AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE NUMBER I WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AGAIN FOR THE CITY WHATEVER THAT PHRASES I CAN'T PRONOUNCE IT CORRECTLY BUT I THINK THAT IS THE PHONE CALL THAT THAT EMPLOYEE CAN TAKE THIS AS I'M HAVING AN ISSUE BECAUSE THE REASON I GO TO THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE ÃBECAUSE THEY CAN BE ANONYMOUS FOR THEY CAN CALL THAT NUMBER AND SAY I AM A CITY RESIDENT AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS THIS IS WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.

THAT TAKES AWAY THE PRESSURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IT TAKES THE PRESSURE AWAY FROM THEM CALLING OUT THIS IS SO-AND-SO ON THIS IS WHERE YOU LIVE THIS IS WHY YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO DO THAT. THEY MIGHT JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS VERSUS GETTING IT AIRED OUT. ANYWAY.

>> IT SOUNDS TO ME WHAT YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER, JUST ASKING TO EXPLAIN ÃFOR NOW TO ADDRESS A SPECIFIC ISSUE IN PUTTING TOGETHER AN AD HOC MEETING LIKE A PEER REVIEW COMMITTEE THIS KIND OF WHAT I HEARD A MEETING OF PROFESSIONALS AND.

[INDISCERNIBLE] AN AVERAGE CITIZEN BUT >> A MAJORITY CONSISTS OF PROFESSIONALS AND THEY WILL KNOW THE PRACTICE AND PROCEDURES.

>> I WANTED TO OFFER UP. [INDISCERNIBLE] KNOWLEDGE RELATED TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND APPEALS COURT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT Ã18 TO 20 YEARS AGO AND THE CONSTRUCTION COURT OF APPEALS THOSE RULES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. [INDISCERNIBLE] CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THAT WAS SO LONG AGO I CAN'T REMEMBER. [INDISCERNIBLE] DOCUMENTS TO SPECIFY BUT IS THERE ANYTHING IN THERE IS THERE ANYBODY IN ITS ENTIRETY I AM SURE YOU WILL HAVE THAT ALLOWS FOR PROCESS OR LINKS REGARDING CONSTRUCTION AND THE EXISTING Ã

>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS. THOSE AREAS THOSE FIELDS OF EXPERTISE AND SPECIFICALLY ITS OUT AND ÃFOR THE APPEALS PORTION OF IT.

>> AND THEN. [INDISCERNIBLE] I GET PHONE CALLS EVERY DAY FROM CITIZENS

WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESSES >> AND I HAVE SEEN THE CLERK'S OFFICE OR THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD BE THE OPERATIONS I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PROJECTED OUT THERE AS ADVERTISED YOU'RE THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO TAKE A PHONE CALL IF SOMETHING WENT WRONG AND SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE A SOLUTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PUBLIC IN THE CITY WHO DO I NEED TO CALL? THEY GET THE PHONE OUT THEY GET ON FACEBOOK AND START POSTING SOMETHING INSTEAD OF MAKING A PHONE CALL TO THE PERSON WHO'S GOING TO ANSWER.

>> SO IF YOU WILL PREPARE A. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> THE PURPOSE FOR CHANGING THE ORDINANCE, WE ARE ADDRESSNG ISSUES WE HAVE THAT'S WHY I SAY I'M GOING TO PROPOSE.

[INDISCERNIBLE] A LETTER IN THE FIELD AND I WILL BE MORE SPECIFIC THAN THAT.

>> LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER TWO. SUE MIGHT DEVELOP A FORMAT OF CUSTOMER FEEDBACK TO BE

[03:35:12]

>> OKAY. >> REVIEW AND REPORT ON THE BODY CAMERAS FOR INFIELD BODY Ã BUILDING DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL ANOTHER TAX DOCUMENT CAPTAIN JIM NORMAN HAS PROVIDED A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACQUISITION AND THE CITY COMMISSION SHOULD PROVIDE DIRECTION ON IMPLEMENTATION OF BODY CAMERAS INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF POLICIES AND PROCEDURES SUCH AS OPERATIONS, PRIVACY, PUBLIC ACCESS AND THE USE OF BODY CAMERAS BY BUILDING DEPARTMENT STAFF.

>> WAS THE NEXT STEP? >> WE NEED DIRECTION FROM YOU DO YOU WANT US TO DEVELOP OPERATING PROCEDURES, THE COST OF CAMERAS IS PROVIDED BUT AGAIN THAT 60 TO 90 DAY PROCESS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONCERNS IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME BY BUILDING OFFICIALS WHO MET WITH THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND EXPRESS CONCERNS REGARDING THE PRIVACY VIDEOTAPING INSIDE SOMEONE'S HOME. SO I THINK THERE ARE MORE CONCERNS THAT HAVE TO BE CLARIFIED WITH OPERATING PROCEDURES INSTEAD OF ON MONDAY PUTTING BODY CAMERAS ON DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES.

>> MR. ROSS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE IT.

YOU SAW THAT VIDEO TONIGHT YOU SAW WHAT YOU SAW. IT TOLD A STORY AND IT'S NOT HE SAID SHE SAID. I THINK YOU NEED PROCEDURES FOR PRIVACY AND ALL THAT STUFF BUT THE POLICE LOVE BODY CAMERAS. THEY LOVE THEM BECAUSE THERE IS NO ARGUMENT.

OUR LITTLE ARGUMENT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ÃSUMMA COMMISSIONER STURGIS.

>> I AGREE. I THINK WE NEED TO GO DOWN THE ROAD WITH BODY CAMERAS AND PUT THAT PLUG OUT THERE FOR FIVE SECONDS AND THE OFFICER DID A GREAT JOB AND IS TRULY WITH THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH IS ABOUT.

>> I WILL TELL YOU WHY I AM AGAINST IT. I HAVE HAD MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT AND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BODY CAMERAS ON OUR ÃAND POLICE OFFICERS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE PROFESSIONALS AND IF WE SET THE BAR AS THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO JUDGE OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE BY FILMING THEM, WHERE DOES IT END? AT THAT POINT ANYONE WHO INTERACTS WITH CITY STAFF OR THE PUBLIC, WHY AREN'T WE BLARING BODY CAMERAS? WHAT IS IN OUR CITY ATTORNEY WEARING A BODY CAMERA? HOW TO PUBLICLY INTERACT WITH PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. AND OUR ATTORNEY DOES.

PEOPLE DO INTERACT WITH PEOPLE SO IF WE ARE SINGLING OUT A SECTION OF OUR STAFF THERE IS NO ÃIT NEEDS TO BE PROTECTING US AND IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING OUR POLICE OFFICERS AS IT IS ABOUT PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS BUT HERE I CAN SEE NOWHERE ELSE WEWOULD DRAW THE LINE AND

THEREFORE I COULD . [INDISCERNIBLE] >> VICE MAYOR.

>> I THINK THE SITUATION IS. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> WE HAVE TO, THIS IS A PROBLEM WE HAVE TO RESOLVE WE ARE DEALING WITH MOSTLY TECHNICAL ISSUES MAY BE A MAJORITY OF THIS WILL BE OUTSIDE AND IF YOU THINK ONE OF THE REASONS IS JUST HOW THEY REACT HOW THEY ARE TALKING THAT'S HOW THEY ARE MAKING THESE DISCRETIONARY CALLS AND I THINK THAT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM SO I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD I THINK WE HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY IN THE BUILDING ÃI DON'T THINK THE COST IS AN ISSUE.

>> AND I ALSO SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD I DON'T KNOW OF ANY PRIVATE SECTOR CUSTOMER SERVICE ENTITY THAT DOES NOT FILM THEIR EMPLOYEES INTERACTIONS WITH CUSTOMERS.

THAT IS POINT NUMBER ONE. POINT NUMBER TWO HOUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND PERSONNEL CAME UNDER WITHERING ATTACK, WITHERING ATTACK.FOR THEIR CONDUCT.

SOME OF IT MAY BE TRUE. SOME OF IT MAY BE FALSE. THE ONLY WAY WE WILL NOW IS THE

EXAMPLE THAT WE SAW TONIGHT. SO I AM IN FAVOR >> I WILL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WE WILL DRAFT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AS WELL AS A PURCHASE ORDER AND GET THE

[03:40:01]

POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR JULY 6. >> THANK YOU.

CIVIC REVIEW AND REPORT PERMIT APPLICATION APPROVAL PROCESS. STAFF IS CURRENTLY PREPARING TO UTILIZE A PRIVATE PROVIDER FOR DEPARTMENT BUILDING PLAN REUSE AND TRANSITION FROM A SEQUENTIAL PROCESS TO A SIMULTANEOUS PROCESS AND PERMIT APPROVAL AND ISSUANCE.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION RELATED TO PERMIT REVIEW AND ISSUANCE WILL BE PROVIDED JULY 6.

>> IS THAT BEING ÃRUNNING THAT THROUGH THE BUILDING FUND? SUMMA THROUGH THE BUILDING FUND

IN THE APPLICANTS. >> OKAY.

>> REVIEW AND REPORT ON PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS STAFF IS REVIEWING POSSIBLE CHANGES TO PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS SMALLER SCALE PROJECTS. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WILL

BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION JULY 6. >> NEXT.

CIVIC REVIEW REPORT PERMITTING FEES THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FEE STUDY WAS RECENTLY COMPLETED AND IS AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW PROPOSED FEES WILL BE PART OF THE CITY ANNUAL BUDGET

DEVELOPMENTAL SHALL BE IMPLEMENTED OCTOBER 1. >> OKAY.

>> >> I JUST WANT TO BE IN FAVOR OF REDUCING THE PERMIT COSTS I THINK WE HAVE THEABILITY AND I WANT TO PUSH FORWARD WITH THAT .

THAT'S IT. >> DEVELOPMENT IMPLEMENT A CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING PROGRAM THE CITY HAS ACCESS TO ALL MY LIBRARIES OF TRAINING VIDEOS INCLUDING GENERAL CUSTOMER SERVICE, DE-ESCALATION ETHICS AND VIDEOS RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION AND SAFETY REPORTED TRAINING ACTIVITIES WILL BE PRESENTED ON JULY 6 ADDITIONALLY PROFESSIONAL LEADERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT TRAINING HAS BEEN PRELIMINARILY OFFERED BY ÃHELP DEAL WITH FACILITATION SHE IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE NASSAU COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS LED DEVELOPMENT TEAM BUILDING EFFORTS WITH THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE PROPOSAL FOR SUCH TRAINING CAN BE SOLICITED OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOU AND OTHERS FOR SUCH TRAINING CAN BE EXEMPT.

>> I HAVE ONE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING AND HAVE IT BE MANDATORY. SO AS YOU POINTED OUT CITY MANAGER THERE ARE TAPES AVAILABLE THAT'S LEAVING IT UP TO THEM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERY Ã

>> WHAT'S INDICATED A REPORT OF THE ACTIVITIES WILL BE PRESENTED JULY 6.

>> THANK YOU VERY SOON SEEK PRELIMINARY INTEREST FROM STAFF REGARDING THE CONSOLIDATION OF BUILDING DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS AS IT SAYS CORRESPONDENCE WAS SENT TO STAFF ON APRIL 14 AND I BELIEVE IN THE COURSE OF TONIGHT'S MEETING I HAVE RECEIVED A REPLY FROM THE COUNTY INDICATES IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF STUDY AND IT IS NOT GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED FAST SO I WILL SURE THAT EMAIL WITH YOU FIRST THING TOMORROW.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ÃON THIS? STRAIGHT NEXT ITEM IS FEMA.

I HAVE PROVIDED A SERIES OF DOCUMENTS RELATED TO CURRENT STATUS OF THE FEMA APPEAL.

THE FEMA APPEAL REQUIRED BY FEDERAL STATUTE THEY WERE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A APPEAL WITHIN 90 DAYS THOSE 90 DAYS EXPIRED JANUARY 13 WITH ADDITION OF THE STAFFORD ACT AND LEGISLATION THE CITY FOUND THAT 180 DAYS EXPIRED OF FEMA ACTION THAT EXPIRED APRIL 13 WE ARE NOW ELIGIBLE FOR WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS SECTION 423 ARBITRATION.

WITH THAT WAS THAT WILL REQUIRE ALL OF OUR APPEAL AND THEN WE CAN BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ARBITRATION CITY STAFF STARTING TO EXPLORE LEGAL OPTIONS OR LEGAL SUPPORT OF ARBITRATION AND WHAT I NEED YOU TO THINK ABOUT IS WHETHER ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE RELATED TO OR IN ADDITION TO WHAT I HAVE PROVIDED REGARDING THE APPEAL PROCESS OR ARBITRATION PROCESS PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL PROVIDE TO YOU A LIST OF RECOMMENDED ATTORNEYS TO CONSIDER PURSUING THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY THAT WILL BE ON THE MAY 18 AGENDA. WE ARE WITHDRAWING THE APPEAL OF CHAINING COUNSEL AND.

[INDISCERNIBLE] ARBITRATION. YOU HAVE A FEW WEEKS TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND ASKED SOME QUESTIONS THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE FOR TONIGHT.

[03:45:03]

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> ONE OTHER THING. ÃGUARDIAN PEOPLE STILL ON SITE WORKING ON PURGING THE LINES. WE ARE ALL FRUSTRATED IT'S A CONTRACTOR ISSUE IS NOT IN ALISHA'S ISSUE IS NOT A CITY ISSUE IS AVAILABILITY OF CONTRACTORS TO FORM ÃPERFORM HIGHLY TECHNICAL WORK OF PURGING AND CALIBRATING THE Ã THE OASIS STAFF IS ON THE PHONE WITH GUARDIAN STAFF WORKING ITS WAY UP THE CHANGE OF THE CEOS OF EACH COMPANY.

>> AND I AM SURE THE CITY MANAGER IS TIRED OF US ASKING Ã >> I THINK OASIS IS TIRED OF ME ASKING THEM EVERY DAY. SO GET YOUR FUEL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

[12. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]

>> CITY ATTORNEY. >>. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> >> LAST WEEK THE CITY FILED AN AMENDED COMPLAINT WITH OUR LAWSUIT AGAINST THE PORT AUTHORITY AND THE PORT AUTHORITY MANY OF YOU KNOW APPOINTED A NEW ATTORNEY SO HE HAS ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION TO CANCEL THE COMPLAINT SO I WOULD SAY BY MID MAY WE WILL HAVE AN ANSWER TO THE COMPLAINT AND WE WILL SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE, SO THE FLORIDA BAR ASSOCIATION THAT'S MANDATORY FOR ALL LAWYERS TO BE A MEMBER OF THE ÃWE HAVE SOME AREAS OF SPECIALTY CERTIFIED CITY COUNTY LAW AND SINCE I HAVE BEEN SERVING A SECTION ON THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS TODAY I WAS HONORED WITH THE 2020 CHAIR SERVICE AWARD TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO OUR SECTION WHICH HAS UP TO 2000 MEMBERS AND ONE THING I REGRET MY PARENTS WERE ABLE TO SEE IT.

>> >> SOMETHING WE ALL UNDERSTAND. THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM IN LIEU OF THE TAXES ON THE SHEET OF PAPER SO FAIR SHARE WOULD BE MINIMUM OF Ã

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> TAMMY, STILL WAITING FOR THE

APPRAISAL. >> HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO

WAIT? >> HANG ON.

>> WE WERE TOLD 45 DAYS AND I THINK IT HAS BEEN 50 DAYS SO WE CAN POKE MR. JACOBS THE APPRAISER AND HE TAKES HIS TIME SO DON'T GET ANTSY ABOUT THAT.

>> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND >> I UNDERSTAND. THAT WAS ALL I HAD.

[13. CITY CLERK REPORTS]

ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO.

THANK YOU. >> CITY CLERK?

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] ÃTO CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND.

[14. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

[INDISCERNIBLE] THANK YOU. >> SO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS

VICE MAYOR? >>

>> I WILL MAKE IT QUICK I HAVE RECEIVED THREE PHONE CALLS FROM AN ARCHITECT AND TO BUILDERS ABOUT HOW GREAT THE STAFF HAS BEEN SO I JUST WANT TO REPORT I HAVE THREE PHONE CALLS ABOUT HOW WELL THE THINGS HAVE CHANGED THE PROCESSES WORKING THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

[03:50:08]

>> AND THEY LIKE TO SIGN UP AND >> AND. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I WILL ADD WITH THE CITY RECYCLING EVENT LAST SATURDAY I WAS AMONG THE 800 VEHICLES IN Q2 RECYCLE AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH KEEP NASSAU BEAUTIFUL, A LOT OF NONPERISHABLE FOOD WAS COLLECTED 251 FREE TREES WERE DISTRIBUTED 14,000 POUNDS OF PAPER WAS SHREDDED E-WASTE AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS WERE COLLECTED AND THERE WERE MANY VOLUNTEERS I SAW A LOT OF FOLKS THAT I KNEW THIS WAS A MONUMENTAL EFFORT AND IT TOOK A LOT OF PEOPLE SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF THOSE FOLKS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE CITY LOOKS FORWARD TO THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS. AND WITH THAT. [INDISCERNIBLE]

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA (Part 2 of 2)]

>> IF I MISSED YOU I APOLOGIZE PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME >> I AM MICHAEL SHARP AT FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA. I ASKED TO SPEAK ON TWO DIFFERENT SUBJECTS.

>> GO AHEAD. >> I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR 30 YEARS I HAVE BEEN A BUSINESS OWNER FOR 17 YEARS AND I AM INVOLVED IN PRIVATE COMMERCIAL BUILDING PROJECTS AND CHIEF HURLEY SAID THE CULTURE OF THE DEPARTMENT COMES TO THE TOP AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND I HOPE YOU WILL BE CONSISTENT IN YOUR VIEWPOINT I WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT YOU VIEW CITIZENS COMPLAINTS ON A WITHERING ATTACK OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS SUPPOSED TO DEFEND OURSELVES AGAINST ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR WE HAVE A PERSON AT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHO HAS POISONED THE CULTURE OF THAT DEPARTMENT THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES HAVE SPOKEN LOUD AND CLEAR AND THEY HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF CRIMINAL TRESPASS BY AT LEAST ONE OTHER BUSINESSES OR MAYBE TWO WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO TO BE FIRED BY THE CITY? I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE WILLING TO DO AS A COMMISSION WHEN THE CITIZENS COME WITH THESE TYPES OF COMPLAINTS ARE WE JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT OR TAKE SOME ACTION ABOUT AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S CLEARLY OUT OF BOUNDS I BELIEVE THE CITY DEPARTMENT, THIS BUILDING DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE ABSORBED BY THE COUNTY THE ADDITIONAL BENEFIT OF SAVING MONEY BY MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

NCLUDED WITH GETTING RID OF A ROGUE EMPLOYEE THAT HAS ABUSED OUR CITIZENS AND NEEDS TO BE MORE THAN TALKED TO, MORE THAN RANGE IT WAS A TALKING TO SHOULD HAVE TO SEND OUR BUILDING OFFICIALS TO LEARN HOW TO MANAGE IT. THAT'S A JOB HE SHOULD BE HIRED AND HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT WE SHOULD HAVE SOMEBODY ELS .

>>

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