[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> IN CASE YOU HAVE WANDERED IN THIS ROOM BY MISTAKE, YOU'RE IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING.
>> CHAIRPERSON FAITH ROSS. >> HERE.
>> VICE CHAIR JEAN PUGH. >> HERE.
>> PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
>> ITEM 4, APPROVAL OF MINUTES. I WANT TO BRING UP THE SUBJECT, I HAD PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO ADD THINGS TO THE MINUTES, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT. HOWEVER, I WANT TO MAKE AN EXPLANATION SOMETIMES THE MINUTES ARE A LITTLE SPARSE IN THAT SEVERAL, I GUESS IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THERE WERE SOME COMMITTEES WHOSE MINUTES WERE VERY MUCH IN ARREARS. THEY HADN'T BEEN DONE IN QUITE SOME TIME AND THEY WERE BACKLOGGED.
AND THE STAFF DID NOT HAVE THE TIME. YOU HAVE TWO OR THREE HOUR MEETING, AND IF YOU'RE WRITING EVERYTHING DOWN AND TRYING TO GET IT IN TO THE MINUTES, THEN IT BECOMES QUITE AN ONRUS TASK.
IF STAFF HAD SOME ISSUES WITH MINUTES, THEN JUST WRITING WHAT WAS VOTED ON AND THE VOTE COUNT WAS SUFFICIENT. AND SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE THINGS ADDED TO THE MINUTES, IT'S GREAT. I APPLAUD STAFF FOR WHAT THEY GET IN TO THE MINUTES. BUT IF IT'S A MINIMUM MINUTES REPORT, IT'S ACCEPTABLE. AND -- ARE WE OKAY?
>> YES, MA'AM. >> ALL RIGHT. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, I GOT A COUPLE LOOKS LIKE, AND IT WAS SORT OF LIKE, OKAY, WE JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES NOT EVERYTHING MAKES IT IN TO THE MINUTES. I KNOW, BILL, YOU ASKED ABOUT THAT LIST OF THINGS THAT WAS FROM THE COLUMBARIUM. AND BECAUSE THE MEETINGS WERE SO CLOSE TOGETHER, WE COULDN'T GET THE MINUTES IN THE LIST OF COLUMBARIUM ITEMS IN THE AGENDA PACKET, SO THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT.
>> OH YEAH, THAT'S FINE. >> WE DO HAVE THOSE. IT'S JUST WE DO WHAT WE CAN DO. UNFORTUNATELY, IT DOESN'T MAKE
>> WITH THAT ALL SAID, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
>> WITH THAT SAID, I HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS.
>> OKAY. >> BOTH ITEM NUMBER 6 AND ITEM NUMBER 10. THEIR MOTIONS ARE IN BOTH OF THOSE. IT SHOULD SAY WHETHER IT WAS UNANIMOUS. IT SHOULD INCLUDE WHO APPROVED THE MOTION. I BELIEVE THE NUMBER 6, IT WAS UNANIMOUS, I BELIEVE.
THAT WAS THE MOTION ABOUT DELAYING THE VOTE ON THE ADDITIONAL CANDIDATE. AND IN NUMBER 10, IT WAS TO APPROVE THE
>> I JUST AS A HABIT, MOTIONS SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE A VOTE COUNT.
>> I THINK I SAID THAT TO MS. FOI. YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU.
ANYONE ELSE? MR. MARTEL. >> ITEM 10.3. CHAIR BARTELT.
>> MY WISHFUL THINKING. >> SO WE'LL EDIT 10.3. AND THEN WE'LL ADD -- MEMBER PUGH, IS IT CORRECT THAT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT DOES SAY THE -- BUT IT DOESN'T SAY --
>> UNANIMOUS. >> BEING ALL AYES. AND I BELIEVE
>> THAT WAS ITEM 10 ALSO. >> NO, YES, IT WAS 6 AND --
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>> 6 AND 10. IT JUST NEEDS THAT SENTENCE THAT'S ALL.
>> SO DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE
SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS? >> MOTION.
>> AYE. >> ALL RIGHT. NUMBER 5, PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT ON THE AGENDA. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE. MOVE TO NUMBER 6, NEW MEMBER
[6.1 Applicants]
CANDIDATES. WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH THREE. WE HAVE FORMER COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. FORMER BOARD MEMBER RICHARDS. AND A NEW CANDIDATE MS. GRANT. I WANT TO THANK MS. LAJOUX FOR SENDING US SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER FOR A NEW CANDIDATE. I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE ELSE HAD ANY SUGGESTIONS OR POSSIBLE IDEAS WHY OR WHO, YOU KNOW, IN WHAT WAY THEY WOULD JUDGE A NEW CANDIDATE, WHETHER WE SHOULD CONSIDER SOME OTHERREASON. >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY
COMPLETE. >> I WAS KIND OF INTERESTED PARTICULARLY IN SOMEONE WILLING TO WORK ON SUB COMMITTEES. YES.
>> CHAIR ROSS, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I DID PUT THAT UP ON THE SCREEN. BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE IT WAS SENT TO ALL THE MEMBERS.
>> YES, IT WAS. >> THIS WAS WHAT SHE'S TALKING
>> I LIKE THAT YOU INCLUDED THE NECESSARY ELEMENTS. BUT WE ALSO HAVE OTHER THINGS IN THERE. I KNOW MS. PUGH BROUGHT UP THE GEOGRAPHY. WE LIKE USUALLY TO HAVE PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
SOMEBODY WHO LIVES OUT AT THE BEACH HAS A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FROM SOMEONE DOWNTOWN. YEAH. THOSE.
>> NUMBER ONE IN THIS I ASSUME IS A GIVEN. IT'S NOT EVEN OPEN
FOR DISCUSSION. >> YEAH. THEY WERE LIKE THE
FIRST FIVE OR SIX. >> APPLICATION.
>> THE ANSWER HAS TO BE YES. >> CORRECT.
>> SO THAT'S A MUST BE YES. >> AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE MR. KEGLER WHO KIND OF LISTENS AND THEN PUTS OUR COMPROMISE TOGETHER FOR US. BUT THAT'S JUST ME. SO DO I HEAR A
NOMINATION? >> I PUT FORTH MS. GRANT. MY RATIONALE WAS HER BACKGROUND IS DIFFERENT THAN MUCH OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE. IT'S ALSO SOMEBODY WHO HAS NOT SERVED ON ANY COMMITTEES. I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ENCOURAGE NEW RESIDENTS TO GET INVOLVED. IN THE CITY. AND BRING THEIR PERSPECTIVE. THAT'S JUST, OF COURSE, MY PERSONAL OPINION.
>> I KNOW, YOU'VE LIVED OFF AND ON 23 YEARS IT SAID, AND SEVEN YEARS. I LOOKED AT YOUR APPLICATION. BUT I -- THAT'S MY -- AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS YOU. SO I'M NOT JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE SITTING HERE. I DIDN'T KNOW. ANYWAY, THAT IS A NOMINATION I WOULD PUT FORWARD.
>> DO I HEAR A SECOND? >> I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE TRUDIE RICHARDS. SHE HAS CONFLICT RESOLUTION, SHE SEEMS TO BE SERVING ALREADY DOING QUITE A BIT OF WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. --
>> ALL RIGHT. I GUESS WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE EITHER MAKE A MOTION FOR THEIR CANDIDATE. IF WE HAVE A SECOND, SO WE GET TO
VOTE. >> OR YOU COULD HAVE BOTH OF THEM COME ON AND I COULD GRACEFULLY RESIGN. YAY.
>> WHY WOULD WE WANT THAT? >> THAT DOESN'T QUITE WORK THAT
>> ALL RIGHT. >> IS THERE A SECOND FOR ONE OF
THE CANDIDATES? >> YES. IS THERE A SECOND FOR
ONE OF THE CANDIDATES? >> I LIKE THEM BOTH.
>> WAS THERE A MOTION? >> JUST A NOMINATION.
>> IT'S A NOMINATION. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FORMAL PROCESS WOULD BE. WOULD IT BE TO MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE? I MAKE THAT MOTION TO NOMINATE MS. GRANT TO FULFILL THE VACANCY ON
THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY. >> I'LL SECOND THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT. ANY CALL TO VOTE? >> I'M GOING TO OBSTAIN BECAUSE
I LIKE THEM BOTH. >> WELL THERE'S GOING TO BE OPEN
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>> CALL THE VOTE. >> OH. I CAN'T READ AND WRITE AT
THE SAME TIME. MEMBER BARTELT. >> AYE.
>> ALL AYE. >> WHAT DID I SAY? CHAIR?
>> WELCOME MS. GRANT. >> DID I INTIMIDATE ANYONE?
>> SCOTT, WOULD YOU MIND SENDING THE WELCOME LETTER AND THE NEW
>> DON'T WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE COMMISSION?
>> YES. >> WE'RE JUST ADVISADVISORY. SOE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. IT'S GOT TO GO TO THE COMMISSION.
>> WE WILL GET IT ON THE COMMISSION.
>> CAN WE GET IT ON THE NEXT ONE? IT'S NOT OUT. IT'S NOT
PUBLISHED YET. >> IT DOESN'T MATTER, WE HAVE A
DEADLINE. >> OH. THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL
>> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. IT WILL BE IN MAY.
>> I TRIED. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT ORDER OF
[7.1 Priority Funding Approval]
BUSINESS. NEXT ONE, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDING. ITEM 8.WOULD SOMEONE PUT THIS ONE UP, PLEASE.
>> YES. . >> ARE WE DOING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR ARE WE DOING THE WHOLE FIVE YEARS?
>> THE RECOMMENDATIONS FIRST. THE SHORT SHEET THAT YOU GAVE US. YOUR PRIORITY SHEET. WOULD APPRECIATE THAT WOULD BE FIRST.
I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN BEFORE THE COMMISSION, AND THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE EITHER POSSIBLY CUT OR WHETHER WE HAVE MONEY OR NOT. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME FUNDS THAT MAY BE AS MUCH AS -- THE PROBLEM WITH THE BUDGET AT THIS POINT IS THAT THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING TO BE LOWERED DUE TO THE LOWERING OF VALUE PROPERTY TAXES FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS BECAUSE OF NET INCOME. ALL RIGHT.
SO WE MAY HAVE PROPERTY VALUES IN THE CITY THAT HAVE GONE UP FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, BUT THE ACTUAL COMMERCIAL ONES HAVE
>> SO THERE'S GOING TO BE BALANCING ACT IN THE BUDGET. I THINK IT WAS LIKE $149,000 WORTH OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED LAST YEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANYMORE OF THAT. GOING TO BE HOPEFULLY APPROVED THIS FALL. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT, MS. VOIT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH AND SAY WHAT ARE OUR TOP ABSOLUTE THREE THINGS THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE. AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WE SHOULD VOTE ON TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD BE THE REPOINT TO THE PAC CENTER, THE PAC WINDOWS, AND THE REROOF TO THE LOWER LEVEL OF THE GYM. THOSE, I MEAN, IF WE DON'T, IT FALLS DOWN. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS 1, 2, AND 3 OF THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PRIORITIES AS OUR NUMBER ONE MUST-HAVE ITEMS FOR THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.
DO I HEAR A SECOND OR AN ADJUSTMENT?
>> DISCUSSION. >> YES. ANY DISCUSSION.
>> NUMBER 3, REROOF LOWER LEVEL. >> YEAH.
>> HAS TEMPORARILY BEEN ADDRESSED. SO IT CAN GET AROUND
FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS OR SO. >> OKAY.
>> SO I WOULD SAY THAT THAT $65,000 --
>> SO WE CAN PUT THAT IN NEXT YEAR'S CAPITAL BUDGET IF WE
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NEEDED. >> WE COULD. THAT'S WHY I PUT IT
AS NUMBER 3. >> OKAY. THE FIRST TWO -- ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ONE OTHER ONE THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE? I WOULD SUGGEST CONCRETE CURBING AT HIGGINS CREEK PARK, NO, STUFF IS
GOING DOWN -- ALL RIGHT. >> THIS IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION. WE RANKED THEM BASED --
>> I KNOW. >> WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT
TO THE COMMISSION. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> SO THE COMMITTEE CAN SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN RANK THEM HOW THEY WILL. BUT STAFF IS GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
>> OKAY. WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT EMERGENCY?
>> THE FENCING, WHICH HAS BEEN A CRISIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
>> THE BUCCANEER FIELD FENCING? >> MM-HMM.
>> HMM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT.
>> IT NEVER HURTS TO ASK. IF THEY CUT THAT, THEY'LL FUND
>> IS THAT A PROJECT THAT IS AN ALL OR NOTHING PROJECT, THE FENCING? OR COULD BE IT PHASED AT ALL?
>> WE LOOKED AT PHASING LAST YEAR, AND THE DETERIORATION IS -- WHEN YOU PHASE THINGS TO THIS EXTENT, IT'S GOING TO COST YOU MORE IN THE LONG RUN. YES. YOU COULD REPLACE THE BACK STOPS AND THE FENCING AROUND CERTAIN FIELDS. BUT I MEAN, CUTTING -- YOU KNOW, WE CAN PASTE THINGS TOGETHER ALL THE TIME. SO YES, YOU COULD DO THAT. BUT IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO GET A FENCING COMPANY TO COME OUT AND DO A $10,000 FENCE AS IT IS.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE RENOVATION OF NORTH BEACH PARK WALK OVER?
>> WHAT'S THE SPECIFIC? >> NUMBER 4.
>> I KNOW WHAT IT IS. >> RENOVATE NORTH BEACH PARK
WALK OVER. >> FROM THE SOUTH TO THE MAIN EXIT, OR ENTRANCE, I GUESS YOU'D SAY. FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS, IT'S BEEN CONTINUALLY COVERED. SO WE KEEP CUTTING OFF EXTENSIONS OF IT. IT NEEDS TO BE REENGINEERED. KIND OF LIKE SEASIDE PARK IS GETTING REENGINEERED NOW. BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THAT BATTLE WITH MOTHER NATURE WHERE THE DUNES KEEP --
>> KEEP GROWING. >> RIGHT. WHICH IS A GREAT PROBLEM TO HAVE. PLUS, THE EXISTING WOOD, THE SURFACE WOOD AND SOME OF THE HANDRAILS, EVEN SOME OF THE MIDDLE RAILS, THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED. IT'S A BIG PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S A BIG STRUCTURE. THE UNDERLYING STRUCTURE IS IN GOOD CONDITION.
>> OKAY. >> AGAIN, THIS IS PREVENTIVE. WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS TYPE OF THING IN THE, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS
>> I WOULDN'T PUT IT AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. BECAUSE YOU CAN REPLACE THE DETERIORATED BOARDS AS THEY COME ABOUT OR PRIOR TO
THEIR DESTRUCTION. >> WELL THEN I WOULD JUST LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE THE TWO, THE EMERGENCY ONES, THE REPOINT PECK CENTER AND PECK WINDOWS AS A NUMBER ONE COMMITTEE PRIORITY FOR THE COMMISSION.
>> NOW THOSE ARE PROJECTS COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
>> YES. >> CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
>> YES, ALL OF THESE ARE GENERAL FUND.
>> EXCEPT THE NEXT. >> AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO NEXT. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THOSE TWO?
>> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. CALL TO VOTE.
>> I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE MOTION?
>> ONE AND TWO OF THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE SECTION MADE BY
CHAIR ROSS, SECONDED BY BARTELT. >> YES.
>> THOSE TWO. >> OKAY. SORRY. I'M SORRY.
>> THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT. >> THAT'S OKAY. CALL TO VOTE.
>> GOTCHA. >> MOVING DOWN TO THE MANY IMPACT FEE ITEMS. WOULD THE COMMITTEE SUPPORT THOSE ITEMS?
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>> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. ON THAT ORIGINAL PROJECT LIST YOU GAVE US, THE GIRL THAT WAS -- IT WAS $230,000. IS THIS THE PRICE LESS LIGHTING OR WHAT --
>> YES. BASICALLY THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR FENCING, YOUR BACKSTOP, YOUR DUG OUTS, YOUR FIELD AND IRRIGATION. NONE OF THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT WERE QUOTED ORIGINALLY.
>> THIS IS FOR THE GIRLS SOFTBALL?
>> THIS IS TO -- THE PRACTICE FIELD AT THE M.L.K. CENTER TO MAKE IT A PLAYING FIELD FOR THE YOUNGER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE LENGTH OF THE FIELD WON'T MEET THE -- I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE
12 AND UNDER. >> THIS IS THE FIELD ON THE LEFT AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FACILITY.
>> CORRECT. >> THERE'S A LITTLE ZIGZAG GATE
>> ALL RIGHT. >> SO WHAT ISN'T INCLUDED IN THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE OTHER COST BEFORE?
>> WELL WE HAD -- I'M SORRY. >> IS IT JUST LIGHTING?
>> NO, THERE WERE -- WE WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING TO THE BATHROOMS. WE WERE GOING TO COVER THE BLEACHERS, THINGS LIKE
THAT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO. >> AND LIGHTING, OR NO?
>> THERE WAS SOME LIGHTING. BUT NOT THE FULL LIGHTING FOR THE ENTIRE FIELD. IT WAS JUST MINIMAL.
>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR PLAYING SEASON IS? WHAT -- WHEN
IT IS? >> IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
>> THEY HAVE A SPRING AND A FALL SEASON.
>> YEAH, IT'S TWO SEASONS A YEAR LIKE MOST LEAGUES.
>> SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS DO THEY PLAY DURING IN THE
EVENING WHEN IT'S STILL LIGHT? >> ONLY PRACTICE.
>> SO LIGHTING WOULD BE LESS OF AN ELEMENT THAT WOULD BE
CRUCIAL. >> CORRECT. SEASONALLY. YOU HAVE DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME. LIKE THIS TIME OF YEAR. YOU DON'T HAVE THE
>> THERE ARE NO LIGHTS THERE NOW.
>> THERE'S LIGHTS ON SOME OF THOSE.
>> CHARLES ALBERT FIELD. THEY'RE PRETTY NEW.
>> THE EXISTING FIELD NOW IS TECHNICALLY A PRACTICE FIELD, OR WHAT WE WOULD CALL A PRACTICE FIELD.
>> IT'S NOT MAINTAINED. IT DOESN'T HAVE IRRIGATION.
>> IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY IRRIGATION.
>> IT'S JUST WEEDS. >> IT'S NOT IN GREAT SHAPE.
>> NO, IT'S NOT. EVEN THE DIRT IS NOT IN SUCH GREAT SHAPE.
>> NO. IT'S A PRACTICE FIELD. >> SO THAT WOULD BE THEY'D CONTINUE TO PRACTICE AND PLAY ON THAT. SO IT WOULD SERVE BOTH
>> OKAY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE NEW DUNE WALKOVER TO BE DETERMINED.
>> YES. >> WHERE CAN YOU BUILD A
WALKOVER FOR $65,000? >> WELL WE'VE BUILT FOUR LAST YEAR. EACH OF THEM WAS LESS THAN $65,000.
>> WELL IT WOULD BE -- >> CITY CREWS.
>> NO, IT'S NOT. NOT CITY CREWS. >> NO, NOT THOSE?
>> NO, MA'AM. >> PARKS AND REC DOES NOT REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUILD IT BASED ON THEIR JOB REQUIREMENTS.
FACILITY MAINTENANCE MAY BE ABLE TO. BUT THEY HAVE --
>> THEY HAVE TOO MUCH ON THEIR PLATE.
>> THIS IS, DEPENDING ON THE LENGTH. IF IT'S TOO LONG, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN THAT. SO THAT NUMBER COULD CHANGE. IT COULD GO UP. BUT THIS IS LIKE A PLACE HOLDER. IF IT'S GOING TO BE TOWARDS THE NORTH END OF THE ISLAND, YOU COULD DO IT FOR $65,000 OR LESS. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE DIRECTION FROM THE --
>> THERE'S A DUNE COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED.
>> THE BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE. WE DON'T HAVE DIRECTION FROM THEM AS TO THE RANKINGS. SOME OF THOSE WOULD BE REBUILDS, SO WE
COULDN'T USE IMPACT FEES. >> NOW IS THERE -- I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND TO HAVE -- WOULDN'T THAT AFFECT THE COST?
>> EXACTLY. >> I MEAN, IT MAY NOT BE $65,000 IS MY POINT. IS THERE A REASON WE WANT TO ADD ANOTHER DUNE ACCESS? ANOTHER PIECE OF MAINTAIN -- MAINTENANCE TO THE
PROPERTY? >> WHY IS THAT A PRIORITY? PEOPLE CAN'T GET TO THE BEACH? WHAT'S THE ISSUE?
>> I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A DUNE PLAN FOR THE CITY. AND THERE ARE DUNES THAT
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ARE GROWING. AND WE HAVE SOME THAT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE HAD A BEACH ACCESS FURTHER OUT AT THE FORE DUNE RATHER THAN AT THE BACK SIDE OF THE DUNE. THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING IT. AND LIKE, MS. VOIT SAYS, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE RESULTS BACK FROM THEDUNE COMMITTEE YET. SO YOU KNOW. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY WHEN WE DO GET THOSE RESULTS, THAT'S GOING TO REALLY TIGHTEN UP THE NUMBER.
>> YES, IT WILL. >> JUST REMIND YOU, THIS HAS NOT BEEN SUBMITTED NOR SEEN, TRULY SEEN BY THE COMMISSION. THEY'VE SEEN LIKE STRATEGIC SUMMARY AND A COUPLE OF, LIKE ANOTHER PACKET OF A HUGE LIST OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO THIS IS JUST A NARROW DOWN OF WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WE NEED.
>> I JUST WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE MAINTAINING THE DUNES WE HAVE, THE BOARDWALKS WE HAVE.
>> HAVEN'T MAINTAINED THEM. >> RIGHT. THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING ANOTHER ONE. WHO ARE WE BUILDING IT FOR IS THE
QUESTION. >> WELL MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE FRED KROFT WHO IS THE COASTAL DUNE PERSON. HE DOESN'T LIVE IN THE CITY, SO HE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT WOULD GIVE ANY CITY RESIDENT -- OR HE WOULDN'T BE DOING IT FOR HIS OWN AGENDA. LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST GOING TO DEPEND WHAT THEY COME UP WITH FOR THE COMMITTEE. YES, MS. LAJOUX.
>> TO ADD A TWIST, I KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT NEW MATERIALS THAT WOULD NOT BE WOOD. THAT WOULD BE MORE LONG LASTING. SO THAT COULD FIT IN TO THE STORY SOME HOW.
>> IT WOULD BE NICE, YES. IT WOULD. BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DUNE MAINTENANCE MONEY. THIS WOULD BE A NEW -- IF WE
NEEDED ONE. >> COULD WE CHANGE THE DESCRIPTION TO SAY, WELL SET ASIDE FUNDS FOR DUNE REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE AND THUS, INTRODUCE THE NEW MATERIALS?
>> NOT WITH IMPACT. >> NOT IMPACT FEES. IT HAS TO BE
NEW. IT HAS TO BE NEW. >> RIGHT.
>> SO YOU GUYS CAN RECOMMEND WHATEVER YOU WISH.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE WE REALLY SHOULD NOT REALLY ADDRESS THIS UNTIL THE BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE WEIGHS IN AND I MEAN, THAT COULD
CHANGE EVERYTHING. >> ALL RIGHT. SO WE WON'T WEIGH IN ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE?
>> COULD WE EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR NUMBER ONE?
>> I MOVE THAT WE CONSIDER THE IMPORTANCE OF THE M.L.K.
SOFTBALL FIELD INSTALLATION. >> I'LL SECOND THAT.
>> IT HAS BEEN SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION?
>> WHAT WAS THE MOTION AGAIN? >> I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND PRIORITIZATION OF THE M.L.K. SOFTBALL FIELD INSTALLATION.
NUMBER ONE. >> OKAY. THE FIRST MOTION WAS --
>> MINE WAS A LITTLE TOO SOFT. >> CONSIDER THE IMPORTANCE OF THE M.L.K. SOFTBALL PARK. WE'RE CHANGING IT TO --
>> PRIORITIZE. >> SAME LANGUAGE AS THE FIRST
ONE. >> I REALIZE IT WAS A LITTLE TOO
>> THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION TO SUPPORT -- STRONGLY SUPPORT THE M.L.K. SOFTBALL FIELD INSTALLATION.
>> THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE THE CITY COMMISSION TO STRONGLY SUPPORT THE INSTALLATION OF THE M.L.K. SOFTBALL FIELD.
>> ALL RIGHT. CALL THE VOTE. >> OKAY. MEMBER BARTELT.
>> YES. >> MEMBER PUGH, I MEAN, VICE
>> WHATEVER YOU WANT. CHAIR KE
>> CAN I JUST DO LAST NAMES? >> YES.
>> OKAY. GREAT. >> WE DO NEED TO KEEP THAT ON OUR RADAR, THOUGH, FOR THE NEW DUNE WALK, OR THE DUNE WALKOVER
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MONEY, AS THE COMMITTEE -- >> STAFF CAN CERTAINLY SUPPORT
>> ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
[7.2 Five Year Capital Improvement Plan]
FIVE-YEAR PLAN. >> THIS IS ONE I WISH I HAD
LEGAL SIZE. >> IT WENT OFF THE EDGE.
>> I HAVE A PHOTO COPY. >> IT'S ALL RIGHT. I'M GOOD.
>> HOW CAN I SQUEEZE THIS DOWN? >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE RENOVATION OF THE SADLER ROAD GREENWAY ACCESS. IS THAT THE WALK WAY THAT COMES OUT OF THE BACK OF THE HOTEL?
>> YES, AND THAT'S ALREADY CHANGED. THAT'S GOING TO BE
COMING OFF OF THERE. >> OKAY. SO WE CAN CROSS THAT
OUT? >> YOU CAN CROSS THAT OUT. IT WILL BE IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET BECAUSE IT WON'T BE $20,000.
>> BID FOR CLARIFICATION. THIS HAS NOT GONE TO FORWARD -- IT'S STILL WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS?
>> WE WON'T TAKE IT TO THE CITY MANAGER UNTIL NEXT MONTH.
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS
>> UNDER RECREATION DEPARTMENT, THE ATLANTIC CENTER EAST SIDE, I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE. WHAT IS THAT?
>> THAT'S THE ROOF. WAIT. WHERE ARE YOU? LET ME SEE.
>> UNDER RECREATION DEPARTMENT. YEAH, RIGHT THERE.
>> THAT WOULD BE WHERE -- >> $5,000.
>> WE COULD CHANGE THAT TO RENOVATION. WHERE OUR OFFICES ARE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CENTER THAT ARE FROM THE 50S, THEY NEED RENOVATION. IT NEEDS TO BE RENOVATED. PLUMBING.
>> HAS THAT BEEN ON THE LIST IN PREVIOUS YEARS OR IS THAT A NEW
THING? >> IT MAY HAVE BEEN WORDED
>> MEMBER LAJOUX. >> YES. CAN YOU BACK UP SOME MORE SO LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, PLEASE.
>> DOWN? >> RIGHT HERE, THAT'S GREAT. ON THE TOURING RENOVATION, I STRONGLY BELIEVE WE SHOULD KEEP THE HIGH CEILINGS, AND I HOPE THERE'S NOT PLANS ON TWO LEVELS
TO GET IN. >> NO, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ONE
LIKE IT IS. >> GREAT. THANK YOU.
>> THAT ARC EXPANSION EAST SIDE, IS SOMEONE GOING TO GIVE US LIKE A TALK OR PRESENTATION ABOUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO ENTAIL?
>> WE HAVEN'T HIRED ANYBODY TO DO THAT. NO, MA'AM.
>> OKAY. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT YOUR WISH LIST IS. ALL
>> WAIT A SECOND, I'M STILL LOOKING AT THE FIRST. OKAY. I
>> I HAD A COUPLE MORE. >> OKAY.
>> THE FITNESS COURSE AT MAIN BEACH --
>> YES, I HAD THAT QUESTION. >> THAT'S COMING OUT.
>> OH, THANK YOU. >> THAT'S COMING OUT.
>> SOMEHOW RELATED TO THE ONE THAT WAS GOING TO BE PAC CENTER
FIELD? >> YES. IS THAT ONE COMING OUT, TOO? I DON'T SEE THAT ON HERE NOW. OH WAIT, I SEE CHALLENGE
>> WELL THIS IS HOW I WANT TO EXPLAIN IT. IT MAY STAY IN THE CIP. BUT FOR -- THERE'S SEVERAL REASONS NA WE KEEP THINGS IN THE CIP. FIRST OF ALL, FOR GRANT FUNDING. NONPROFITS TO HELP WITH THINGS. DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. NO PROBLEM REMOVING THAT. I WILL PUT IT IN HERE. I THINK WE HAD A GRANT -- DIDN'T WE HAVE A GRANT FOR THAT FROM GAME TIME?
>> YEAH, BUT IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE.
>> YEAH. AND WITH THE COVID, A LOT OF STUFF EXPIRED.
>> YEAH. >> SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS AND GET THE SUPPORT OF PRAC. BECAUSE IF WE HAVE YOUR SUPPORT, THEN THE COMMISSION AS WELL TAKES THAT. SO WORKING TOGETHER AND CHANGING STUFF ON THIS IS IMPORTANT. TAKING STUFF OUT, PUTTING STUFF IN. SO WE NEED TO
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CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS SO WE ARE A UNITEDFRONT. >> I HAVE JUST A GENERAL QUESTION. I'M ASSUMING EVERYTHING UNDER 21, 22, WHATEVER WAS ON YOUR FIRST PAGE OF ITEMS. THE MAIN --
>> HOPEFULLY. >> PUT IT ALTOGETHER FOR THE --
>> BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BOTTOM LINE ABOUT $700,000. ARE YOU GIVEN AN ESTIMATE BUDGET FROM FINANCE? I HAVE TO ASSUME THE GENERAL FUNDS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET HAS SOME
FINITE AMOUNT. >> WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE GENERAL FUND, THERE ARE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE MADE
>> SO ULTIMATELY, IT'S GOING TO BE --
>> IT'S GOOD TO LOOK AT. >> KNOWS WHERE THE BIGGEST ISSUE
IS. >> SO THERE MAY BE A FINITE NUMBER BUT IT'S NOT SPECIFIC BY DEPARTMENT. BECAUSE ONE DEPARTMENT MAY NEED IT MORE THAN ANOTHER.
>> WE COULD ASK FOR A MILLION THINGS. BUT THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TELL THEM WHAT THE PRIORITY IS.
>> AND THAT'S COMMISSION I GUESS WILL MAKE THAT DECISION.
>> IF IT DOESN'T MAKE IT TO THE COMMISSION -- SO IT GOES TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. --
>> BECAUSE THEY'RE SEEING EVERYTHING, RIGHT? OKAY.
>> OR THEY MAY ASK THE COMMISSIONERS WHAT YOU THINK,
YOU KNOW, GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE. >> OKAY.
>> THERE'S A WALKING PATH AROUND CENTRAL PARK AND A WALKING PATH AROUND PAC FIELD. IS THAT THE INTENT TO HAVE BOTH OF THOSE?
>> WELL I'M JUST SPEAKING FROM HOW THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW, WITH THE IMPACT THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE OR NOT GOING TO HAVE. I DON'T ANTICIPATE THOSE HAPPENING. YOU HAVE TO -- I KEEP TRYING TO REITERATE THIS. THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN CAN CHANGE. WHAT WE THINK THIS YEAR IS IMPORTANT MAY NOT BE IMPORTANT NEXT YEAR. IT MAY GO AWAY. BUT YOU GUYS CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO TAKE THINGS OUT AND PUT THINGS IN TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY. IT MAY CHANGE THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR.
>> THE REASON I'M KIND OF ASKING THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS IS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT OF TRYING TO PUT SOME THINGS DOWN ON PAPER FOR WHAT WE HAVE BEEN CALLING THE MASTER PLAN, WHETHER THOSE THINGS WE WOULD RECOMMEND BEING IN THAT OR NOT. I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T --
>> IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE WENT THROUGH A PRESENTATION ON
THAT. >> YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE AGREED
ON THIS. >> WE AGREED ON THAT EARLIER.
>> RIGHT. BUT THE CHALLENGE AT THE PECK FIELD, I DON'T RECALL THAT IT INCLUDED A WALKING TRAIL.
>> IT DID. >> MAYBE I MISSED THAT. BUT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE MASTERPLAN, THAT WILL BE A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE TWO WALKING PATHS AROUND TWO PARKS. THAT'S WHY I'M RAISING THOSE QUESTIONS.
>> IS THE MATERIAL GOING TO BE PERMEABLE OR IMPERMEABLE? BECAUSE IMPERMEABLE WOULD BE PREFERABLE.
>> YOU MEAN PERMEABLE. >> RIGHT. PERMEABLE.
>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IS THERE A REASON THAT ONE WALKING FIELD IS UNDER THE 300, BUT THE OTHER ONE IS UNDER 310? WOULD THEY BOTH BE
>> I KNOW, BUT WOULDN'T THAT BE MORE REASONABLE TO PUT UNDER
IMPACT FEE SINCE YOU CAN? >> WE COULD.
>> I MEAN, IT WOULD COME OUT OF IMPACT FEE RATHER THAN GENERAL
>> AND I THINK WHAT MEMBER BARTELT IS SAYING IS AS WE WORK THROUGH ADJUSTING THE MASTERBLAN.
>> WHICH ONE. >> THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT HOW WE WORK TOGETHER ON WHAT'S GOING TO BE -- OR WHAT WE ARE GOING TO REQUEST THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
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>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> ONE OTHER COMMENT ON THE PECK. WOULDN'T WE EXPANDING THE PAVILION AT THE PECK AS WELL? WE WERE EXPANDING THE PAVILION AT THE CENTER AND MAKING IT MORE OF
>> TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THAT AT THE PECK.
>> THIS IS FIVE YEARS, SO THAT CAN BE PART OF YOUR MASTERPLAN.
>> BUT WHERE IS THAT ON THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
>> THIS IS ONLY FIVE YEARS. SO IT MAY NOT --
>> SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT ON THERE RIGHT NOW.
>> YEAH. AS YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THE MASTERPLAN, IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR YOU TO PRIORITIZE THE ORDER OF THESE EXPANSION PROJECTS. IT COULD BE BASED ON FUNDS AVAILABLE. IF WE KNOW THAT THE PROJECTION IS THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY ON WHATEVER THE EXPANSION IS, WE
MIGHT HAVE TO REPRIORITIZE. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T LOSE SIGHT OF IT. I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE UP HERE A
WHILE. >> YEAH, WE HAVE CENTRAL PARK AND M.L.K. PLANS THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED YOURSELVES, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE EVER BEEN TO THE COMMISSION. BUT YOU GUYS HAVE
>> SO THOSE ITEMS ARE WITHIN LIKE A 10-YEAR PLAN.
>> I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THE POINT OF VIEW, AND I AGREE WITH MR. BARTELT THAT ONCE WE GET THE MASTERPLAN WRITTEN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. >> AND THE SURVEY.
>> RIGHT. THE SURVEY IS VERY IMPORTANT, I AGREE.
>> UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING YOU REALLY OBJECT TO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GO ON AND WE CAN COME REVISIT THIS AFTER THE MASTERPLAN IS DONE. AND WHEN WE HEAR BACK FROM THE CITIZENS WHAT THEY REALLY WANT, THEN YOU KNOW, THEY'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA. I DON'T KNOW. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT WITH THAT?
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. >> I KNOW EVERYONE'S BUSY, BUT POSSIBLY SETTING UP A SUB COMMITTEE TO -- I KNOW, BUT TO
GO THROUGH THIS. >> AFTER WE GET THE MASTERPLAN
>> YES. I WOULD TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.
>> ASSESSMENT. >> ASSESSMENT PART OF IT. YES.
>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT.
>> YES, WE HAVE TO DO THAT. >> MEMBER LAJOUX -- I'M SORRY.
>> YES, GO AHEAD. >> I NOTICED THE VERY TOP OF THE SCREEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE'S A WATERFRONT RESILIENCY.
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR SURVIVAL, ET CETERA. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WITH THAT FEE IN THIS QUESTIONNAIRE. I THINK THE QUESTIONNAIRE ASSUMES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RESILIENCY.
>> WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE SURVEY.
ALL RIGHT. IS IT -- CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM THEN? ANYONE
>> MR. NORRIS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE SURVEY.
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>> SO DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE ONE THAT WE SENT OR THE ONE THAT
WAS CLEANED UP? >> I CLEANED IT UP.
>> THAT ONE. >> YES. IT HAS THE SAME STUFF IN IT. IT JUST HAS LINES WHERE YOU CAN PUT ANSWERS.
>> BECAUSE I SENT ONE WHERE I TOOK EVERYTHING OUT AND ADDED ALL THE LINES. YOU DIDN'T GET THAT ONE?
>> I DON'T KNOW. >> THERE IT IS.
>> THAT'S ONE. >> THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT, RIGHT? >> YES, THAT'S THE ONE I'M
TALKING ABOUT. >> I DIDN'T GET THAT ONE.
>> NO. >> DID YOU GET THE ONE I SENT?
>> BUT IT HAS THE SAME QUESTIONS.
>> SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN?
>> IT'S JUST -- SO WHEN WE SEND IT OUT, IT LOOKS LIKE A SURVEY
>> OKAY. >> SHE PUT ALL THE STUFF IN IT.
>> IT'S THE SAME STUFF. JUST PUT THE LINES IN IT. OKAY. WE NEED TO APPROVE WHATEVER COMES OUT OF HERE TODAY. SO THAT'S WHY THIS WAS THE LIGHTS P-- LINES PUT IN AND IT GOT REALLY CLEANED UP.
FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE WE BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE SOME INFORMATION OUT. I DISCOVERED THERE WAS A WAY TO GET TO THE CITY MANAGER WITHOUT MAKING AN APPOINTMENT. COMMISSIONER ROSS
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MEETS WITH HIM EVERY TUESDAY. SO I WROTE UP A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD FROM OUR COMMITTEE MEETING AND I GAVE IT TO HIM ANDSAID, DON'T GO HOME WITHOUT IT. >> THAT'S GOT TO BE A VIOLATION.
>> I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW IT WAS. BUT IT WAS OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, THE SURVEY MONKEY. FROM WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IS NOT -- MAY NOT BE ABLE TO LIMIT WHO GETS THE SURVEY BY CITY RESIDENT. SO IT MAY BE FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER WAY TO GET THE SURVEY DONE THAT ONLY CITY RESIDENTS GET IT.
WE HAVE SO MANY INTERESTED PARTIES IN OUR CITY THAT THEY JUST COME FROM EVERYWHERE. AND THEY JUST SEEM TO LOVE TO COMMENT ON FERNANDINA BEACH. SO FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE, HE ONLY WANTS CITY RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF FACT FINDING AS THE BEST WAY TO GET THAT OUT.
THE SECOND WAS THAT HE WOULD RATHER TAKE THE QUESTIONS AND EVALUATE THEM. AND IF THERE'S A QUESTION, HE MAY BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION, BUT HE MAY NOT. THIS MAY BE THE ACTUAL SURVEY. WE'RE GOING TO GET THE DATA BACK. BECAUSE I WAS VERY -- IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE NEED TO GET THE DATA BACK TO PUT IT BACK IN THE MASTERPLAN. SO HE IS GOING TO SEND US THE DATA BACK. WE ARE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING IT IN THE MASTERPLAN.
AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THE REWRITE. AND WE ARE GOING TO -- SINCE THERE IS SUCH AN INTEREST, THANK YOU, MR. BARTELT, FOR SAYING THAT WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BEGIN DOING THIS BEFORE WE GET THE RESULTS BACK. THEN AFTER WE'RE FINISHED WITH THIS, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO ASK FOR MORE SUB COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND A DAY THAT WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND START PUTTING SOME KEY ELEMENTS TOGETHER OF DATA FOR THIS CITY IN THE MASTERPLAN, AND THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO TAKE OUT OF THE MASTERPLAN. BECAUSE THE CITY MANAGER'S VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE DOES NOT WANT
THE PRESENT MASTERPLAN. >> CAN I INTERJECT?
>> YES, GO, PLEASE. >> YOU HAVE MENTIONED WE'RE NOT REFERRING TO IT ANYMORE AS A MASTERPLAN?
>> HIS -- >> IT'S GOING TO BE CALLED THE ASSESSMENT AND ACTION PLAN FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION
>> I WOULD THINK WE START USING THAT AND REFERRING IT TO THAT
>> SO THIS IS A TOTALLY -- WE'RE UPDATING THE MASTERPLAN.
>> RIGHT. >> BUT IT'S KIND OF REALLY GOING
TO BE A MASTERPLAN. OKAY. >> I'M ASSUMING HE SAID THAT TO GET AWAY FROM PEOPLE THINKING WE WERE JUST GOING TO BE UPDATING
>> THAT THIS IS A TOTALLY NEW DOCUMENT.
>> THIS IS A TOTALLY NEW TYPE OF DOCUMENT.
>> THAT WILL BE THE GUIDING DOCUMENT.
>> YES. >> FOR THE PARKS AND REC
DEPARTMENT. >> OKAY. AND THAT'S WHERE I AM IN THE UPDATE. OKAY. THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU RECEIVED IS WHAT MS. VOIT SENT YOU HAS THE SAME INFORMATION ON HERE. IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD OR COMMENT ON OR CHANGE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO. YES, MA'AM
>> JUST THINKING FOR NUMBER 7, ITEM F AS IN FRANK, FISHING PIER. KINDLY IDENTIFY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EGAN'S CREEK.
AND FOR US FINDING OUR WAY AROUND IT MAY BE GOOD IN PARENTHESIS. BECAUSE APPARENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE FISHING
PIERS AROUND DOWN. >> SO I THINK MEMBER LAJOUX IS TALKING ABOUT THE DRAFT ONE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SENT OUT AND NOT
>> ONE AFTER OUR SUB COMMITTEE MEETING.
>> THAT ONE STILL JUST SAYS PIERS.
>> I'M LOOKING AT 6F, HERE ON THE SCREEN.
>> ALL RIGHT. THIS WAS ASKED IN THE ORIGINAL MASTERPLAN. ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED IN THE ORIGINAL MASTERPLAN. WE'RE
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NOT REINVENTING TOO MUCH OF THE WHEEL. THE TYPES OF PARKS AND FACILITIES THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU, IT DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE THEM. NOW THOSE WERE THE ACTUAL RESULTS THAT CAME BACK FROM THE LAST MASTERPLAN. THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WAS TRAILS AND BIKEWAYS. THAT WAS WHAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM. AND THE MAINTAIN GREEN OPEN SPACE, AND THEN IT WENT DOWN IN PRIORITY FROM THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO IN ORDER TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, THAT LIST WAS POPULATED FROM THE ACTUAL MASTERPLAN IN 2015. SO IF THEY REALLY WANTED MORE FISHING PIERS, THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, MARK THAT AS A PRIORITY FOR THEM. AT LEAST THAT'S HOW I READ THE QUESTION. NOW IF SOMEBODY ELSE HAS A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION, THAT MIGHT BETHEIR CHOICE. YES, MR. BARTELT. >> JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TESTING, I GUESS, HOW ABOUT WE PUT TRAILS AND BIKEWAYS LOWER ON THE LIST TO SEE IF IT STAYS AS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY. OR WHETHER PEOPLE SEE THAT, SO THEY PUT THAT AS NUMBER ONE.
>> WELL NUMBER FIVE. >> ALPHABETIZE THE LIST.
>> WHERE WOULD YOU SUGGEST WE PUT IT?
>> ALPHABETICAL ORDER. >> I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE IT TOTALLY IMPLIES IMPARTIALITY. IT DOESN'T HAVE
>> NO, IT'S JUST IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.
>> ALL RIGHT. EXCEPT FOR THE OTHER.
>> EXCEPT FOR OTHER. >> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
>> OKAY. ANY OTHERS? >> ON NUMBER 3.
>> NUMBER 3. >> I ASSUME THAT THE STAFF -- OKAY. SOMETHING'S CHANGED HERE. I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE THAT CAME OUT. NUMBER 3 SAID WHICH CITY PARKS, OPEN SPACES OR RECREATION FACILITIES DO YOU VISIT MOST OFTEN? IS SOMETHING MISSING HERE? YOU INCORPORATED THE NUMBER IN THE HOUSEHOLD AND AGE
>> SO THAT'S NOW NUMBER TWO. ARE YOU GOING TO POPULATE THAT WHEN YOU DO THE FINAL DRAFT, RECREATION STAFF.
>> YOU'LL PUT THEM ALL IN? EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
>> REC CENTER. >> IT WILL BE BY PARK. LIKE
EGAN'S CREEK PARK. >> NOW IT SAYS OPEN SPACES.
>> THOSE ARE IN THE PARKS. >> AND ALSO ALL YOUR FEE-BASED, YOU KNOW, YOUR DIFFERENT SPORTS, COURTS, AND FACILITIES.
EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE SO PEOPLE CAN -- SO YOU'LL HAVE --
>> SO THAT QUESTION WOULD LEAD US TO SAY THAT YES, WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT ALL OF THAT IN THERE.
>> WOULD YOU PUT -- >> NO. BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF
THE -- >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
>> IT HAS ITS OWN PARK GENERAL FUND.
>> ONE OF THE PLACES I VISIT. HISTORICAL STUFF.
>> IT IS A PARK. IT'S OUR PARK. YES, MS. LAJOUX.
>> THERE'S SOME RECOMMENDATION BY THIS WORKING GROUP THAT -- PARKS AND RECREATION GO UNDER HISTORIC PRESERVATION BECAUSE OF ITS PARTICULAR NATURE. BUT I DO THINK WE OUGHT TO INCLUDE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CEMETERY. BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LUMP IT IN WITH THE PARK BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING VERY SACRED ABOUT IT.
IT HAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT CHARACTER. WE CAN INCLUDE IT.
PERHAPS IT WILL HAVE ITS OWN QUESTION. SOMEHOW.
>> I HAVE A COMMENT. >> OKAY. GO AHEAD.
>> THIS IS PROBABLY NOT MUSIC TO ANYBODY'S EARS, BUT I FRANKLY, THINK THAT THAT WHOLE PLAN NEEDS TO BE REDONE JUST LIKE OURS IS.
THAT PLAN WAS DONE IN 2015. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
>> NO, I MEAN, TO ASK ALL THOSE QUESTIONS IN THERE. DO YOU USE THE FACILITY? DO YOU WALK IN IT? THAT IT'S KIND OF ITS OWN PLAN AND NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, IT'S OVER SIX YEARS OLD AT THIS POINT.
>> I WAS IN SAVANNAH DURING THE WEEKEND. AND ONE OF THE FOR SAV
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THEIR CEMETERY WHERE PARTICULARLY WHERE A LOT OF THE SIGNIFICANT MEMBERS OF SOCIETY WERE BURIED. PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTH WHERE THERE'S SO MUCH, I GUESS MORE REVERENCE AND MORE SY SYMBOLOGY.>> ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD AFTER PUTTING THAT THING, YOU KNOW, LIST ALL THE FACILITIES AND EVERYTHING, WAS THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST LEAVE IT WITH A BUNCH OF EMPTY SPACES THAT THEY CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY'RE USING. I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU VISIT MOST OFTEN? AND THEY CAN WRITE IN WHATEVER THEY USE.
>> IT MAKES IT -- HAVING -- WHEN I WAS WORKING ON MY DOCTORATE AND TAKING SURVEYS, AND YOU LEAVE IT OPEN LIKE THAT, IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO CATEGORIZE CERTAIN THINGS BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO ASSUME WHAT PEOPLE ARE INTENDING.
>> WE NEED ANOTHER SUB COMMITTEE.
>> I ALSO THINK IT'S A WAY TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT WE HAVE.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU. >> THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW EVERYTHING WE HAVE. THEY DON'T KNOW IT'S OURS.
THAT IT BELONGS TO THE CITY. IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL THING, TOO.
>> I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T PUT THE CEMETERY IN.
JUST LIST IT. THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE MASTERPLAN AND THE CEMETERY, THEN THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT
WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING. >> THAT WILL BE INCLUDED UNDER
NUMBER TWO, THEN. >> ALPHABETIZE THE LIST OF AMENITIES, AND NUMBER TWO, ADD THE CEMETERY.
>> -- >> OKAY. THE REASON WE SEPARATE THESE OUT, THE ONE QUESTION NUMBER 3 HAS TO DO WITH JUST THE
>> OKAY. THEN WE GO DOWN TO FACILITIES LATER ON IN THE QUESTIONNAIRE. HERE, DO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY RECREATION PROGRAMS? AND THEN WHAT DO YOU LIKE MOST ABOUT THE CITY PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES YOU PARTICIPATE IN?
>> OKAY. >> SO THEY'RE DIFFERENT. OKAY.
>> REGARDING BOSVELO, PEOPLE GO TO BOSVELO FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS, AND THAT COULD SKEW THE DATA. SOME PEOPLE GO, MANY PEOPLE GO JUST TO VISIT A GRAVE. THAT'S NOT REALLY A RECREATIONAL THING. OTHER PEOPLE GO TO WALK THROUGH IT BECAUSE IT'S A COOL PLACE AND THERE'S LOTS OF INTERESTING THINGS TO SEE. THAT'S A RECREATIONAL THING. SO YOU MIGHT GET A LOT OF
DATA BACK -- >> WE WOULDN'T KNOW WHY
THIRTY-THREE WERE GOING THERE. >> SO MAYBE YOU WON'T WANT TO
LEAVE THAT DOOR OPEN. >> ANYONE ELSE HAVE A THOUGHT ON
IT? >> I JUST FEEL LIKE IF YOU DON'T ASK THE QUESTION, YOU DON'T KNOW.
>> WELL THEN WE NEED TO ASK IT. >> AND MAYBE --
>> COULD IT HAVE A SEPARATE QUESTION.
>> WE COULD. >> COULDN'T YOU HAVE BOFK VEL --
>> MAYBE PULL THAT ONE SECTION OUT AND ADD A SPECIFIC. LIKE MEMBER BARTELT SAID, IT IS SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION. SINCE YOU DID RAISE THAT ISSUE, YOU DO NEED TO DELINEATE WHAT THEY'RE
USING IT FOR. I USE IT FOR BOTH. >> COULD WE HAVE JUST A SEPARATE QUESTION, DO YOU VISIT BOFK VELLO CEMETERY, AND WHY.
>> -- >> YEAH, I DON'T EITHER. JUST
HAVE THEM EXPLAIN IT. >> COULD GIVE SOME EXAMPLES, YOU
KNOW, WALKING, BIRD WATCHING. >> HAVE A LOT OF BIKERS THAT GO THROUGH AND JUMP OVER THE -- AND DOG WALKERS THAT WOULD
DISCOURAGE. >> I WAS UP THERE TODAY, AND A 30-MINUTE PERIOD I SAW FIVE PEOPLE RUNNING.
>> UH-HUH. >> THEY RUN. THEY BIKE.
>> I THINK ADDITIONAL QUESTION. >> CAPTURE THAT.
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>> ARE WE SURE WE JUST CAN'T PUT IT RIGHT THERE WITH RECREATION FACILITIES? THAT'S ONE MORE QUESTION.
>> YEAH, BUT IT DOESN'T ANSWER WHY. SO LET'S ADD THE ADDITIONAL QUESTION AT THE END. DO YOU VISIT BOFK ABELLA CEMETERY AND GIVE THEM A LIST OF FOUR THINGS TO CHOOSE FROM. AND THEN PUT AN
OTHER AT THE BOTTOM. >> THAT'S GOOD.
>> AND THAT WAY WE GET, YOU KNOW, WE GET THE DATA.
>> MAYBE YOU COULD USE THE WORD RECREATIONAL BUT PUT IT IN
QUOTES. >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO MENTION IN THE QUESTION, DO YOU UTILIZE. HOW ABOUT THAT?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHERS?
>> I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING ELSE.
>> OH, PLEASE DO. >> BUT ON NUMBER 6, I JUST DON'T LIKE NEGATIVE SENTENCES LIKE THAT. WHAT YOU DISLIKE ABOUT THE
PARK. >> WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
>> YES, WE DID. >> IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH IT,
I'M ALL RIGHT WITH IT, TOO. >> WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT AND DECIDED THAT, I MEAN, THAT REALLY DOES TELL LIKE IT IS.
>> YEAH. >> LIKE IT STARTED OUT BEING WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD YOU MAKE TO THE PARKS.
>> RIGHT. >> STRONGER RESPONSE.
>> AND THEN WE WERE AFRAID WE WOULD GET WE NEED MORE SWINGS.
>> IMPROVEMENTS PART WAS LIKE, OH NO.
>> ON NUMBER 5. >> FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AND FROM PARKS REC DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE, ALWAYS POSITIVE IS A GOOD THING. BUT SOMEBODY READING THE SURVEY, YEAH, WHAT DO I DISLIKE ABOUT IT? I MEAN, THAT'S REAL.
>> HOW ABOUT WHAT CRITIQUE? >> I'M SURE WE'LL GET A LOT, YOU
KNOW. >> YOU'LL GET SOMETHING.
>> OH YEAH. >> THEY WILL TELL YOU.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT WILL BE AN ISSUE.
>> IT WON'T BE A PROBLEM. >> THE BEVERAGE DISPENSER
DOESN'T HAVE -- >> THE FOUNTAIN AT CENTRAL PARK
DOESN'T HAVE A BOTTLE FEED. >> ANYTHING ELSE?
>> WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT. >> THEY BROUGHT UP THE FACT WELL WE NEED A NEW SWIMMING POOL. NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT.
>> I UNDERSTAND. >> I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME GOOD RESPONSES FROM THAT IN YOUR FACE QUESTION.
>> YEAH, IN YOUR FACE QUESTION. IT IS IN YOUR FACE.
>> DO WE HAVE A QUESTION -- I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING. LAST MEETING MEMBER KEGLER SAID HEY, HAVE WE EVER GIVEN FISHING LESSONS? IT WAS KIND OF A, COULD WE SAY -- MAYBE WE ALREADY SAY IT AND I'M SORRY.
>> YES. >> WHERE IS THAT QUESTION? BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO INSPIRE QUESTIONS LIKE THAT.
>> NUMBER 10, WHAT IMPROVEMENT TO THE PROGRAM SHOULD BE ADDED?
>> SHOULD WE GIVE SOME EXAMPLES? >> NO.
>> NO. >> LET THEM -- MEMBER KEGLER CAN
>> FISHING. >> IT IS A GOOD ONE.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THIS IS AN ISLAND.
>> IT IS AN ISLAND. ANY OTHERS? >> WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A PARAGRAPH OR SENTENCE OR SOMETHING AT THE BEGINNING.
>> I REQUESTED THAT. >> DO WE NEED TO WORK THAT OUT?
>> I HAD SUGGESTED THAT BECAUSE I THINK THIS SHOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INFORM THE PUBLIC OF WHY WE'RE DOING THIS, AND ALSO TO FRANKLY, REMIND THEM THAT THESE ARE YOUR TAX DOLLARS AND WE DO NOT RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO SUPPORT.
SO I DID WRITE SOMETHING UP. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW POPULAR THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING UP THE CHAIN. ALSO, I THINK WE SHOULD ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, ALEXANDRA, ABOUT WHY WE DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING IN THE WATERFRONT. YOU ASKED ABOUT THE WATERFRONT.
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>> AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE COMMITTEE. THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED SORT OF FROM THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE'S PURVIEW.
THAT IS WHAT THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO DO. THEY ALSO HAD NUMEROUS SHARETS AND THINGS ASKING WHAT PEOPLE WANTED FROM THE ARCHITECT'S POINT OF VIEW. AND WE WERE GOING TO BEAT A HORSE OVER THE HEAD IF WE GOT IN TO THAT. THE COMMITTEE JUST FELT IT JUST WASN'T WORTH PUTTING THOSE QUESTIONS IN TO STIR THE
>> YUP. CHAIRMAN ROSS. >> YUP.
>> I KNOW YOU TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER, BUT NOW THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT HOW WE DISTRIBUTE IT. HOW WE DISTRIBUTE THE SURVEY IS GOING TO BE INDICATIVE ON THE TYPE OF RESPONSES WE GET. I'M JUST THINKING, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE KIDS AT THE HIGH
SCHOOL ARE THINKING. HUH? >> THEY HAVE TO BE CITY
RESIDENTS. >> THEY HAVE TO BE CITY
RESIDENTS. >> WE DO HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD AND AGES OF THEM.
>> AGE. >> THERE MAY BE SOME RESPONSES THERE THAT INCLUDE THERE YOUNGER PEOPLE.
>> BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE THIS, JUST OUT OF
CURIOSITY. >> WELL IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
>> YOU SAID SURVEY MONKEY EARLIER. BUT THEN WE COULDN'T
LIMIT IT TO -- >> THE LAST TIME IT WAS DONE IT WAS SENT OUT IN THE UTILITY BILLS.
>> AH. >> THERE CAN BE AN OPTION. THERE ARE UTILITY BILLS THAT GO TO COUNTY RESIDENTS. SO THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE PULLED OUT. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO THAT OR NOT. THERE ARE ALSO A COUPLE OF COMPANIES, PRIVATE COMPANIES OUT THERE WHO HAVE SOME WAYS TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS. SO IT'S INFLUX AT THE MOMENT. THE CITY MANAGER WAS PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT THE NEED FOR JUST CITY RESIDENTS TO COMPLETE THE
SURVEY. >> HOW MANY PROPERTIES DO WE
>> I KNOW HOW MANY VOTERS. >> WELL BUT THERE ARE MULTIPLE PER HOUSEHOLD POTENTIALLY. BUT I MEAN, HOW MANY ACTUAL HOUSEHOLDS
DO WE HAVE? DO WE KNOW? >> WELL THEIR PROPERTY ADDRESSES, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY.
>> WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE, I SENT 8,000 TO HOUSEHOLDS. AND IT WAS MORE AFFORDABLE THAN YOU THINK.
>> YES, IT IS. >> IT COULD BE A POST CARD OR SOMETHING WITH A LINK. BUT THEN I GUESS THAT WOULDN'T WORK BECAUSE ANYBODY COULD TAKE IT AND USE IT.
>> WHATEVER COMES BACK SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE ADDRESS. UNLESS IT'S REALLY SUPER SPECIFIC AS TO WHETHER
THEY LIVE IN THIS CITY OR NOT. >> SO IF YOU SEND OUT --
>> DO YOU LIVE IN THE CITY: YES, NO?
>> THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY LIVE IN THE CITY. THEY HAVE A FERNANDINA ZIP CODE AND THEY THINK THEY LIVE IN THE CITY. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? MS. VOIT, WOULD YOU MIND READING US THAT LAST QUESTION ABOUT THE BOFK ABELLA CEMETERY.
>> DO YOU VISIT BOFK ABELLA CEMETERY, IF SO, WHY?
>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO -- YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SAY WHY? WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT A CHECKLIST OR ANYTHING?
>> YEAH. >> WELL YOU'D PUT EXAMPLE.
>> I.E.. >> WALKING, BIKING, RUNNING,
VISITING A LOVED ONE. >> SHOULDN'T THEY BE ABLE TO
TELL ME THAT? >> NO. AND THEN PUT OTHER.
>> GET SOME OF THE DATA OUT OF IT.
>> YOU WOULDN'T WANT THAT AMBIGUITY IN IT.
>> IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A FIVE-PAGE SURVEY.
>> JUST PUT FOUR OR FIVE THINGS. THAT'S IT.
>> HISTORY SHOULD BE ONE OF THEM.
>> PUT THE OTHER AT THE BOTTOM. >> I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT A PERSON RESPONDING TO THIS SURVEY, THE WAY NAN HAS WORDED THAT, YOU WOULD PUT DOWN VISITING A GRAVE.
>> RIDING, BIKING. >> OR BIKING OR RUNNING.
>> OR WALKING. >> OR VANDALIZING HEADSTONES.
JOKING. >> I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S BAD
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TO HAVE IT -- >> I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO NUMBER TWO THEN AND SAY, WELL THEY CAN TELL ME WHY THEY'RE VISITING MOST OFTEN.
>> ALL RIGHT. I'LL CREATE SOME OPTIONS.
>> THANK YOU. >> YOU DO INCLUDE APPRECIATION
HISTORY. >> THAT'S A GOOD OPTION.
>> THAN JUST JOGGING THROUGH. >> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT
>> ALL RIGHT. I THINK I'VE GOT IT.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> OF COURSE YOU GUYS WILL SEE THIS AGAIN BEFORE. AND YOU CAN --
>> ALL RIGHT. THIS IS IT. TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT. BECAUSE
IT'S LEAVING US. >> MEMBER PUGH SAID THAT SHE DID
WRITE SOMETHING. >> I DID. AND I'M NOT -- I THOUGHT THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING RATHER THAN HERE'S -- SO I JUST WROTE "THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO COMPLETE THIS SURVEY. YOUR RESPONSES WILL ASSIST THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH IN DEVELOPING AN ASSESSMENT ACTION PLAN --
>> "THE CITY'S RECREATION FACILITIES, PARKS, AND ACTIVITIES ARE LISTED BELOW SPECIFIC QUESTIONS SEEKING YOUR INPUT. AT THIS TIME, ALL PARKS AND FACILITIES ARE SUPPORTED THROUGH RESIDENTS TAX DOLLARS. THERE IS NO INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH NASSAU COUNTY FOR FUNDING.
I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY CONTROVERSIAL.
BUT THAT MAY INFLUENCE HOW PEOPLE ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, IN MY OPINION, WHEN THEY REALIZE THEY'RE PAYING FOR THESE THINGS.
SO THEY'RE MAYBE NOT GOING TO ASK FOR THINGS THAT ARE --
>> INSTEAD OF ROUGHING UP NASSAU COUNTY?
>> I THINK WE CAN PASS THAT ON TO THE CITY MANAGER AND LET HIM
DEAL WITH IT. >> I COULD TAKE OUT THE COUNTY AND JUST SAY AS THERE IS NO INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT. I
TOOK THAT -- >> THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT
MEANS. >> I TOOK IT OUT OF THE COUNTY'S MASTERPLAN. SO IT'S NOT LIKE I MADE THIS UP. THIS IS IN THE COUNTY -- SPECIFICALLY, THIS WORDING IS WHAT IS IN THE
COUNTY'S MASTERPLAN. >> SO YOU PLAGIARIZED IT?
>> I DID. FOR THAT REASON TO SAY WELL I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING THAT THE COUNTY DIDN'T SAY. I HAVE A COPY HERE IF ANYBODY
WANTS TO READ IT. >> MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY.
>> DO YOU WANT US TO ADD THAT? >> I THINK IT'S GREAT.
>> I THINK IT'S GREAT. ANYONE ELSE?
>> I THINK IT'S GREAT. >> WE ALL AGREE.
>> MEMBER PUGH, WOULD YOU -- >> I'LL EMAIL IT TO YOU THEN
YOU'LL HAVE IT ELECTRONICALLY. >> WE MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE A
LITTLE BIT OUT. >> THAT'S FINE. I'M NOT
PROPRIETARY. >> I WROTE SOMETHING THAT'S
ALMOST THE EXACT SAME THING. >> WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MS.
PUGH'S WORDING PUT IN. >> WELL -- OKAY.
>> I JUST FEEL THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FILL THIS OUT. WHATEVER YOU WISH FOR, YOU'RE PAYING FOR AT THIS POINT. I THINK JUST MEMBER KEGLER TALKED ABOUT BEING TRANSPARENT AND OPEN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT -- DON'T PUT ANYTHING IN THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO. ALONG THOSE LINES I THOUGHT -- WHAT WAY COULD WE TELL PEOPLE WITHOUT SAYING WE'RE NOT DOING
IT. SO DON'T ASK FOR IT. >> MAYBE FOR THE WORD TAX, WE COULD SAY CITY TAX DOLLARS. WHAT'S MY CITY TAX AND WHAT'S MY
COUNTY TAX. >> I SAID RESIDENT TAX DOLLARS.
>> CITY TAX DOLLARS. >> CITY TAX DOLLARS VERSUS NOT
COUNTY TAX DOLLARS. >> PERHAPS WE COULD JUST MAKE A STATEMENT THAT SAYS NASSAU COUNTY DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE --
>> NO. >> ANY TAX DOLLARS TO THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH'S PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS.
>> THAT'S JUST RUBBING IT IN. JUST SAY CITY TAX DOLLARS.
>> NO, I THINK THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT.
>> THE REASON I USED "RESIDENT" IS BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT RESIDENT VERSUS NON-RESIDENT IN TERPS OF FEES AND HOW THINGS ARE
DONE. >> RESIDENT CAN BE CONFUSING.
THEY'RE STATE RESIDENTS. >> CITY RESIDENTS.
>> SUPPORTED THROUGH -- COULD I SAY CITY RESIDENT TAX DOLLARS?
>> YES. >> I'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND.
>> I WOULD SAY CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE THINK NASSAU COUNTY IS THEIR CITY.
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>> WHAT? >> THEY COME IN TO OUR OFFERS
ALL THE TIME. >> THAT'S WHY I SAID CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH. I'LL ADD IT TO THERE, TOO.
>> I'M SURE THE CITY MANAGER WILL CHANGE WHATEVER LANGUAGE HE
WANTS TO CHANGE. >> I'M SURE HE WILL, TOO.
>> WE WILL SEND MS. PUGH'S LANGUAGE, IF ANYONE IS AGREED.
>> WAIT A SECOND. ARE YOU GUYS MAKING A MOTION ON THIS?
>> MM-HMM. >> ON THIS WHOLE SURVEY? OKAY.
WHO IS DOING IT? >> I MOVE THAT WE'LL INCLUDE MEMBER PUGH'S WRITE-UP FOR THE SURVEY IN OUR SURVEY DOCUMENT.
>> INTRODUCTORY PARAGRAPH. WAIT A MINUTE. WE NEED TO APPROVE THE
[8.2 Survey Approval]
SURVEY WITH HER. OKAY. >> AND ADDING THE BOFK ABELLA
COMMENT IN THERE AS WELL. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> WILL YOU READ SOMETHING BACK FOR US?
>> CAN I REDO THE MOTION? >> YEAH, LET'S REDO IT.
>> ALL RIGHT. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE SURVEY QUESTIONS THAT ARE PRESENTLY ON THE SCREEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR BOFK ABELLA CEMETERY. ADDING THE INTRODUCTORY PARAGRAPH FROM
MEMBER PUGH. >> SECOND THE MOTION.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY IT'S FROM ME.
>> YES. CREDIT YOU. >> 20 YEARS FROM NOW WE'RE GOING
TO NEED TO KNOW THAT. >> I HAVE HEARD A SECOND. IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? WILL WE CALL THE VOTE, PLEASE.
>> YES, WE WILL. >> WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE VOTE
STARTING WITH MEMBER BARTELT. >> AYE.
>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OH MY GOODNESS. WE MANAGED TO GET THAT DONE. GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? OH YES, ALL RIGHT. NOW THAT WE HAVE FINISHED THIS PART OF IT, WE GET TO PUT A SUB COMMITTEE TOGETHER TO WORK ON PUTTING IT TOGETHER.
DIG IN YOUR CALENDARS. WHATEVER IT IS, IT HAS TO BE HOW MANY
DAYS FROM NOW? >> AT LEAST NINE.
>> A WEEK. >> A WEEK. SEVEN DAYS.
>> WE'D HAVE TO POST IT TOMORROW IF IT'S GOING TO BE --
>> ANY TIME AFTER THE 21ST. >> YEAH.
>> DATES, ANYONE? >> WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE SUB
COMMITTEE? >> ALL RIGHT. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE GOING TO PUT -- I'M GOING TO BRING IN SOME SAMPLE MASTERPLANS FROM OTHER PLACES. ALL RIGHT.
>> WE'RE CALLING IT. OKAY. GO AHEAD.
>> THIS IS WHAT I HOPE TO BRING TO THIS. WE CAN DO WHAT WE DID WITH THE NAMING. WE CUT AND PASTE WITH NAMES. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT KEY ELEMENT WE SHOULD PUT IN IT. WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT IN EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE ELSE PUTS IN. THE NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION ASSOCIATION SAYS THAT OUR PLAN SHOULD BE UNIQUE NOW.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE DECIDE WHAT DATA WE GET IN THERE. PICK OUT THE KEY ELEMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO GET IN THERE. MY GOAL IS TO CREATE AN OUTLINE OF WHAT WE WANT TO GET IN IT FROM THIS. WE NEED TO DO THE STRIKEOUTS OF WHAT WE DON'T LIKE ABOUT THAT MASTERPLAN THAT WE PRESENTLY HAVE, SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT IN THE THINGS THAT WE WANT. THAT WE CAN TAKE OUT OF THE OLD MASTERPLAN IF WE WANT TO. ALL RIGHT. THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY SOME GOOD THINGS IN IT. SO TAKE WHAT'S GOOD OUT OF IT. AND THEN WE NEED TO GO THROUGH IT WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THAT AND MAKE SURE WE MEET THE THREE GOALS OF -- THE THREE ELEMENTS OF THE NATIONAL PARKS ASSOCIATION. THE ACCESSIBILITY, THE ASSESSMENT AND THE PLAN. AND THEN, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT ME TO BRING TO THAT SUB COMMITTEE MEETING THAT
WOULD HELP US? >> HAVE YOU SELECTED A DATE YET?
>> NO. BUT I WANT TO PREPARE THEM. THIS MAY TAKE A LITTLE -- AT LEAST TO GET US STARTED. AND HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
IF WE GET A FRAMEWORK TOGETHER, THEN YOU KNOW, WE'RE BETTER OFF SO WE CAN MAKE SOME PLANS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. BUT IF NOT, YOU
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KNOW, WE DO WHAT THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO DO.>> THE MOST HELPFUL THING FOR ME WOULD BE AN OUTLINE.
>> OKAY. >> SO THAT WE CAN PURPOSE WHATEVER. AND THEN WE COULD FILL IN UNDERNEATH OR ADD OTHER PIECES TO THE OUTLINE. RATHER THAN JUST START.
>> YOU WANT ME TO PUT TOGETHER A SKELETON?
>> YEAH. >> NOT A PROBLEM. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. A DATE. Y'ALL HAD TIME.
>> ANYTHING AFTER -- I'M SORRY, THE 21ST YOU SAID IS THE
EARLIEREST? EARLIEST. >> 21ST OR LATER.
>> IF IT WAS THE 21ST, WE WOULD HAVE TO POST IT TOMORROW.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE 22ND? DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME? TO
POST IT BY THURSDAY? >> I'M GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN THE FOLLOWING WEEK. SO THAT'S FINE.
>> SO LATE NEXT WEEK, THE 22ND, 23RD, OR IT SOUNDS LIKE POSSIBLY THE 3RD, 4TH, 5TH, 6TH, 7TH OF MAY.
>> PREFERENCES, ANYONE? >> I WOULD PREFER --
>> WHAT CAN YOU DO, MICHAEL? >> CAN WE HAVE IT IN THE
>> WHAT DAY ARE WE TALKING? >> THURSDAY.
>> WHAT TIME WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE?
>> I WILL GET OFF AT 4:00. >> 4:30?
>> I'VE GOT TO COME FROM -- >> YEAH.
>> SOME DAYS I'M IN THE OFFICE. ON THE 22ND, LET'S SHOOT FOR
>> OKAY. >> WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S
AVAILABLE. >> NOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO MEET HERE OR OVER THE ATLANTIC REC CENTER?
>> LET'S DO IT AT THE ATLANTIC REC CENTER SO WE'RE IN LIKE A
WORKING -- >> OKAY. APRIL 22, 5:00 P.M.,
ATLANTIC REC CENTER. >> IS IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC?
>> YES. THIS IS NOTICED PUBLIC MEETING.
>> THURSDAY, APRIL 22ND AT 5:00 P.M. AT ARC AUDITORIUM.
>> A LOT GOING ON THAT DAY. GET MY SECOND SHOT.
>> ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT PART OF IT.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL RIGHT.
ITEM 10. WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE COLUMBARIUM, IMPROVEMENTS TO
THE CEMETERY. >> I ASSUME THERE'S NONE.
>> OKAY. >> YEAH, SO IT'S ACTUALLY ITEM NUMBER 9. BUT YEAH, THERE IS NO UPDATE.
>> OKAY. PARKING AT THE YBOR SPORTS COMPLEX.
[9.2 Parking at Ybor Alvarez Sports Complex]
>> YEAH, I REQUESTED THAT THIS BE ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THERE'S KIND OF A PROBLEM WITH PARKING AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX. I'M AWARE OF IT ON TUESDAY AFTERNOONS AT 5 O'CLOCK. AND ON SATURDAY MORNINGS, WHICH ARE GAME DAYS, IT'S JUST PACKED. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T BUY A PARKING SPACE OUT THERE. CARS ARE PARKED ALONG THE ROAD. THAT LEAD TO CRANE ISLAND. THEY'RE PARKED ON THE ROAD BETWEEN THE ROUNDABOUT AND THE FIELDS. IT'S JUST A NIGHTMARE.
AND I GUESS I'M JUST BRINGING IT UP AS A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED IN TO BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO GET ANY BETTER UNTIL MAYBE THE COUNTY BUILDS US A SOCCER COMPLEX OR A SPORTS COMPLEX OF THEIR OWN. OR ANOTHER ISLAND MAY HAVE ONE. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT USE THE FACILITY HERE ARE FROM THE COUNTY. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SOCCER CLUB WOULD
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DIFFERENTIATE THAT AND DIVIDE THOSE IN TO DIFFERENT -- OR HOW THEY WOULD ARRANGE GAMES DIFFERENTLY OR DO DIFFERENT SCHEDULING. BUT RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST FOR THE FORESEEABLEFUTURE, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT. >> OKAY.
>> IF YOU DON'T GET THERE EARLY, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FIND A PLACE TO PARK. AND THAT CAN AFFECT PLAYERS -- I MEAN, WE'VE HAD -- I'M ASSISTANT SOCCER COACH NOW. SO ON MY GRANDDAUGHTER'S TEAM, PLAYERS HAVE COME LATE TO THE GAME ON SATURDAY MORNING BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T FIND A PLACE TO PARK.
AND SO, IT DOES AFFECT THE GAME. WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT AT THE SUB COMMITTEE MEETING. NAN, CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT AT ALL WHAT YOU WERE DISCUSSING?
>> THE CITY MANAGER, AND I MET WITH THE CONTRACTOR FOR CRANE ISLAND, BECAUSE THEY BROUGHT THAT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT IT'S AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY'RE DRIVING IN TO THEIR PROPERTY. SO LONG STORY SHORT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ARRANGE TEMPORARILY TO PROVIDE PARKING ON THE CRANE ISLAND PROPERTY THAT USED TO BE FOR THE COUNTY, FOR SOCCER AND SOFTBALL. THAT IS NOT A COMPLETELY DONE DEAL. BUT I'M PRETTY SURE WE'RE GOING TO
SEE THAT HAPPEN. >> AND WHO IS GOING TO PAY TO PUT EITHER THE GRAVEL OR THE WHATEVER?
>> THAT HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED. I'M SURE THAT SIGNAGE WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY. AND WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A PARKING PLAN OF SOME SORT. I KNOW THAT IT'S BEING WORKED ON. I DON'T HAVE AN
UPDATE AT THIS POINT. >> OKAY.
>> BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR SHORT-TERM.
>> OKAY. >> LONG-TERM, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE FOR PARKING OUT THERE.
>> YEAH. >> YOU COULD PUT A PARKING
KIOSK. >> PAID SOCCER PARKING.
>> NAN, THERE ARE AREAS CLOSE TO THE SOCCER FIELDS WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO DO PARACHUTING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
>> THAT'S NOT AN OPTION. >> THAT'S NOT AN OPTION? BECAUSE
OF THEM? >> THEY LEASE -- DON'T THEY
LEASE THE PROPERTY? >> THEY DO. AND NOW WE'VE PUT OUR WASTE AREA THAT'S TAKEN THE WHOLE SECTION. THE FOOTPRINT THAT THE SOCCER FIELDS AND SOFTBALL FIELDS ARE CURRENTLY ON, THAT'S THE LIMIT. WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYMORE FROM CITY PROPERTY. AND I'M PRETTY SURE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUY THE
PRIVATE PROPERTY. >> FIELD 4 ISN'T USED A WHOLE LOT. BUT IF YOU WERE TO PUT PARKING THERE, THEN WE'RE TALKING MORE OF AN EXPENSE BECAUSE OF THE SOFTBALLS OF PUTTING NETTING. LIKE, WHERE I MEAN, CARS COULD GET HIT.
>> AND THE KIDS USE THAT FOR SOCCER.
>> I ASSUME THAT WE ARE INVOLVED IN THE PERMITTING OF THE DIFFERENT GAMES. COULD WE PERMIT FEWER GAMES AND KIND OF JUST MAKE THEM EXPAND THEIR TIME HORIZON?
>> WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THEIR SCHEDULE.
>> BOOKING. >> WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
>> THEY MAY HAVE TO LOOK FOR SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS LIKE
CARPOOLING. OR TO YOUR POINT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY INPUT IN TO THAT. BUT WHETHER THEY HAVE SCHEDULING,
RESCHEDULING. >> I MEAN, I CAN FIND OUT. I KNOW JAY DENNISON WELL, WHO RUNS THE PROGRAM. CAN WE COMMUNICATE WITH THEM REGARDING THIS POSSIBILITY FOR PARKING? CAN WE
COMMUNICATE WITH THEM YET? >> HAVE WE COMMUNICATED WITH
>> BUT CAN WE? >> I WOULD NOT SUGGEST THAT.
>> UNTIL IT'S DONE. >> YEAH. THANK YOU.
>> BUT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF YOU MAYBE MAKE THE SUGGESTION
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[10.1 February and March Reports]
>> ALL RIGHT. STAFF REPORT. >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE
YOU DO YOUR STAFF REPORT. >> YES.
>> WE HAD A FEBRUARY 1ST AT THE LAST MEETING. AND THEN THERE'S A NEW FEBRUARY 1ST. I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. ARE THEY DIFFERENT? THEY LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
>> THERE SHOULD BE A MARCH AND AN APRIL.
>> THE ONE CURRENTLY UP THERE RIGHT NOW IS MARCH. THE FEBRUARY ONE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE UP TO DATE, THE WAY IT FALLS ON THE WAY WE HAVE TO POST THE MEETINGS, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN SOME VERY SLIGHT CHANGES THAT WERE COMPLETED AFTER THIS MEETING THAT WERE THEN SENT TO THE CITY MANAGER.
>> OKAY. I HAVE SOME MARKS ON THAT ONE. HIGHLIGHTS.
>> SO NOW NAN MOVED IT UP. THE REPORT IS GOING TO BE DUE ON THE FIFTH. SO WE WILL THEN BE ABLE TO HAVE THE NEWEST ONE UP HERE.
>> SO THE ONE WE GOT IN THE PACKET IS THE ONE YOU WENT TO
THE CITY MANAGER. >> NOT THE APRIL ONE.
>> THE FEBRUARY AND THE MARCH ONE ARE THE ONES THAT MET.
THE APRIL ONE IS -- >> THERE WERE JUST A COUPLE OF
THINGS DIFFERENT IN THEM. >> VERY SMALL.
>> BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IS AFTER EVERYBODY PUTS THEIR STUFF IN, I GO IN AND MAKE LITTLE TWEAKS. SO THAT COULD BE --
>> I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS A SUBTLE WAY TO TRY TO DRIVE US CRAZY. I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT. DIDN'T WE DO THIS.
>> OKAY. ANY COMMENTS FOR THE STAFF REPORT? I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE DOES. ON THE FEBRUARY REPORT, UP IN THE RIGHT-HAND CORNER, TOP
RIGHT-HAND CORNER. >> JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND,
PLEASE. >> OKAY. WHEN IT SAYS -- I THOUGHT THIS WAS DIFFERENT WORDING. SO IT WAS 1,250 INDIVIDUAL USES. THAT STILL MEANS THE NUMBER OF SCANS. IT DOESN'T MEAN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, RIGHT? OKAY. AND THE THE SAME GOES FOR THE POOL AND WATER AEROBICS.
>> THAT INCLUDES PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A CARD.
>> OKAY. THAT'S FINE. BUT IT'S INDIVIDUAL USES. IT'S NOT THE
NUMBER OF PEOPLE. >> RIGHT. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE IF I
GO EVERY DAY, I COUNT. >> IF YOU WENT EVERY DAY, IT
WOULD BE SEVEN COUNTS. >> YES, CORRECT.
>> ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SEPARATE COUNTS. IN THE AQUATIC SECTION JUST FURTHER DOWN, REGISTERING FOR SPRING HOME SCHOOL CLINICS.
HOME SCHOOLS CLINIC. THIS IS FOR THE KIDS WHO CAN COME DURING THE DAY, RIGHT? THEY'RE HOMESCHOOLED. ARE THE SAME PROGRAMS OFFERED, THAT CLINICS OFFERED FOR REGULAR KIDS WHO ARE
IN SCHOOL? >> THEY GO TO THE SWIM TEAMS.
>> THEY GO TO THE SWIM TEAM. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS REALLY A SWIM
TEAM FOR HOMESCHOOLERS. >> ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT A SWIM
TEAM. IT'S A CLINIC. >> WHAT DO THEY TEACH THEM?
>> STROKES. A LOT OF TIMES HOMESCHOOL KIDS DON'T HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, YOU KNOW, GROUP EXERCISE OR SOCIALIZATION.
AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. >> SOCIALIZE. OKAY.
>> IT'S A PAID PROGRAM WHERE SOME OF THE OLDER KIDS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, GOOD SWIMMERS, WE WOULD GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, LIKE DO 100-YARD FREESTYLE. THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME YOUNGER KIDS THAT ARE IN A DIFFERENT LANE WHERE THEY'RE STARTING TO LEARN
STROKES AS WELL. >> THEN WE PULL SOME OF OUR LIFEGUARDS. I THINK WE HAVE FOUR OF THEM HIRED FOR OUR CLINIC.
>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS. AND ESPECIALLY VET PERMITS. WHO ARE
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAD.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY? >> SO THAT WAS FEBRUARY'S.
>> YEAH. ANY FOR MARCH? >> WE ARE DEALING WITH SOME
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DECENT AMOUNT OF VANDALISM IN OUR OUTDOOR BATHROOMS.>> I THINK WE'RE DEALING WITH A POPULATION BOOM FROM VISITORS AND PEOPLE JUST EXCITED TO BE OUTSIDE.
>> I'M GOING TO BRING UP A SUBJECT AND I DO NOT ANTICIPATE THE CITY DOING THIS. BUT RECENTLY, THERE'S A PIECE OUT ABOUT THE LARGER CITIES PUTTING IN AN AUDIO NOISE IN THEIR PUBLIC FACILITIES SUCH AS RESTROOMS OR PLACES WHERE THEY'RE EXPERIENCING VANDALISM. IT ONLY EMITS A SOUND THAT ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 25 CAN HEAR. AND IT'S VERY ANNOYING.
>> A SMALL CHILD? >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SMALL CHILD. BUT IT DOES KEEP THEM AWAY FROM YOUR PUBLIC FACILITIES. AND THEY TURN IT ON AT LIKE 11:00 OR 12 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT AGE POPULATION HANGING AROUND THOSE FACILITIES. AND IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE.
SO IT IS -- IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S OUT THERE. AND THEN THERE WERE CITIES WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST THE MOST HORRIBLE THING YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO TO YOUNG PEOPLE. BUT IT'S NOT DAMAGING TO THEIR HEARING. IT JUST -- IT ANNOYS THEM. AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR IT. BUT ANYONE OVER THE AGE OF 25 CAN'T
>> CITIES ARE USING THIS. SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THROWN OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, THE VANDALISM I KNOW HAS BEEN INCREASING. AND IT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AS COST SAVING DEVICE, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE WOULD EVER WANT TO CONSIDER IT. BUT IT IS A THOUGHT. LOOK IT UP. IT'S FASCINATING.
>> IT IS TRUE THAT YOU LOSE CERTAIN RANGES. I DIDN'T BELIEVE
>> YES, YOU HAVE. >> OH, YOU HAVE.
>> YOU HAVE. AND I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT UNTIL MY DAUGHTERS DID THE TEST. BECAUSE SHE SAID IN COLLEGE THEY SET THEIR PHONES BECAUSE THE PROFESSORS COULDN'T HEAR THAT DECIBEL. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN APP YOU CAN SET IT. AND THE PROFESSORS CAN'T HEAR IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SOUND
>> IN INDUSTRY, WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO A BASELINE TEST. AND MOST OF OUR FOLKS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME LOSE THE UPPER RANGE.
>> HMM. >> ONE GOOD NOTE WITH OUR FACILITIES, WE HAD $20,000 BUDGETED FOR SEASIDE, OR MAIN BEACH RENOVATION. AND WE GOT SOME QUOTES OF ALMOST $40,000 TO DO WHAT WE WERE WANTING TO DO. AND WE WORKED WITH FACILITY MAINTENANCE, AND BROUGHT THAT NUMBER WAY DOWN SO WE COMPLETED THAT AND HAD MONEY LEFT. AND WE ARE CLEANING OUT SEASIDE
BATHROOMS AS WELL. >> AWESOME.
>> SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE, I KNOW IT MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST PLACE TO HANG OUT, BUT THOSE BATHROOMS ARE LOOKING GOOD FOR
>> THANK YOU. >> OH MAN. OKAY.
>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT BEACH ACCESS 37. THE RAMP THAT USED TO EXIST THAT WENT DOWN TO THE BEACH HAS BEEN DEACTIVATED.
AND A NEW RAMP INSTALLED. ARE THEY GOING TO LEAVE THE OLD
>> DO THEY HAVE DO THAT? >> THAT'S BEING TOSSED AROUND RIGHT NOW. IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S STILL IN DISCUSSION. IT'S LEANING TOWARDS THAT WE'LL REMOVE IT.
>> OKAY. >> YEAH, WE WERE JUST KIND OF WONDERING BECAUSE AT MAIN BEACH, I THINK THE STATE SAID THAT YOU
CAN'T REMOVE THE BOARDWALK. >> YES, YOU CAN.
>> I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME. >> WE LEFT IT THERE FOR CIVILIZATION. TOOK THE HANDRAILS AND EVERYTHING OFF. BUT YOU CAN
REMOVE THE STRUCTURE. >> OKAY. BUT THEY'VE DONE THAT
>> REMOVED THE HANDRAILS AND CUT EVERYTHING.
>> THE INTENT WAS TO LEAVE THE STRUCTURE. IT'S BEING DISCUSSED BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND CITY ATTORNEY RIGHT NOW.
>> WE NOTICED KIDS LIKE TO PLAY ON IT NOW.
>> OF COURSE. >> TECHNICALLY, IT'S KIND OF IN THE DUNE NOW. SO IT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO KEEP.
>> YEAH, THEY'LL MAKE THAT DECISION HOPEFULLY VERY SOON.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE'RE DOWN TO THE LAST ITEM. OTHER BUSINESS. ANY
[11. OTHER BUSINESS]
ITEMS YOU WANT PUT ON THE -- YES, MA'AM.>> OTHER BUSINESS, JUST AN ANNOUNCEMENT, A REMINDER.
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REMEMBER THE HEROES GROVE WE APPROVED ON COMMITTEE OF THE 19TH AT 9:00 A.M. WHERE WE HELP OUT WITH THE GROUND WORK THERE.AND THEN ON THE 22ND OF APRIL, AT 10:00 A.M., THERE WILL BE A DEDICATION. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, PLEASE COME.
>> WE DID GET AN EMAIL. I DID. >> YEAH, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL.
>> WHICH WAS VERY NICE. >> HAVE YOU SEEN THE TREES THAT
ARE PLANTED THERE? >> NO. DOES IT LOOK GOOD? ALL
RIGHT. >> THAT'S A GREAT THING.
>> OH, IT IS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. OTHER THAN PARKS AND RECREATION ASSESSMENT AND ACTION PLAN WILL BE ON THE AGENDA NEXT TIME.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY WANT THE AGENDA?
>> NOT YET. >> NOT YET. ALL RIGHT. DO I HEAR
A MOTION TO ADJOURN? >> MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL
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