Apr 08, 2021 Airport Advisory Commission

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[6.1 Monthly Airport Financial Report]

[7.1 Recommendation Request - Hangar Development Project]

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MARKET CONDITIONS THAT WE STICK WITH THOSE DOORS AND NOT SHORTEN THEM.

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THE $50,000 VINGS. >> HOW THAT WE HAVE THE SLIDING DOORS AND A LOT OF

ANGERS. >> WHEN WE DESIGN THIS WHAT HAPPENS IS IF YOU LOOK AT THIS

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WE DID GOOD AS WE CUT. THIS PRODUCED A MORE OPTIONS. >> HOW ABOUT MAINTENANCE?

>> THE CABLES AND STUFF ADDRESS. WE CALLED THE SAINT AUGUSTINE AIRPORT AND WE HAVE A BUNCH OF THESE DOORS AND THERE ARE LESS MOVING PARTS THAN THE CABLE

ONES. >> FROM A NUMBER'S PERSPECTIVE HOW DO WE KEEP THE DOORS OPEN?

>> WHAT THEY DO IS YOU HAVE TWO HYDRAULIC RAMS. SAID OF USING CABLES YOU ESSENTIALLY USE TWO INTERLOCKING RAMS THAT LEFT THE DOOR.

IT SUPPOSED TO REDUCE STRUCTURAL LOAD ON THE BUILDING BECAUSE THE RAMS ARE PRODUCING STRUCTURAL ISSUES. THIS CABLE DOORS BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE LESS INTENSIVE.

>> WHAT IS THE SUSPENSION ON WINS FOR? >> FOR OPENING AND CLOSING ITS

BIG HANGING DOORS USUALLY THAT COME WITH A WINDOW LIMIT. >> I CAN PULL IT FROM THE MANUFACTURER. IT'S A BASIC BUILDING CODE FOR PARTS.

CAN BE HURRICANE RITA TO SOME EXTENT. >> ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WAS THAT WE HAD MEDICATION WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THE WAY IT'S INTERPRETED IS THAT THE RAILING COUNCIL AS PART OF THE BUILDING. THAT'S A STRONG CONSIDERATION WHEN WE DETERMINED THAT THAT CHANGED MY PERSPECTIVE. WE COULD EXTEND FURTHER AND THAT WAS IN THE PIECE THE BUILDING WITH THE PERMIT. THE SLIDING DOORS WERE THERE.

>> THERE ARE LOTS OF REASONS. >> THE DOOR OPENING WITH WIND SPAN ACCOMMODATIONS AND COMPARISONS. IT'S IN COMPARISON WITH THOSE THREE NEW UNITS.

>> THERE'S A GOOD PLAN TO GO LITTLE BIT LATER. THIS IS WITH THE BUILDING RIGHT HERE ON THIS IS ONE UNIT. YOU TOOK ABOUT A FOOT AND-A-HALF OFF GENERALLY FOR THE DOOR WITH WITH THE BUILDING. THAT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.

THIS ONE IS 50 AND THIS ONE IS 4811. IF YOU GO TO THE SLIDING DOOR

OPTION. >> WE ONLY GET ABOUT 40 FEET. >> IT'S 42 AND THIS WAS 42.

>> OUR PERSPECTIVE IS THAT IF IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN CONCOMITANT USE.

>> BACK TO THE BED. >> IF THE BID INCLUDE THE HYDRA DOORS?

>> IMAGES TAKE YOU TO THE SPREADSHEET WE HAVE HERE. I GAVE YOU THE DOCUMENT THAT

HAS SOMETHING HERE CALLED TOTAL COST BREAKDOWN. >> I'M SORRY FOR USING ACRONYM SYMPTOMS WOULD DO THAT. WHAT THIS NUMBER IS 1.164. WE TOOK THAT 1.22 MILLION FOR THE BASE BID WHICH IS THE LARGER UNITS. WE FOUND TWO ITEMS IN THERE WITH A REVIEW AND YOU CAN PULL OUT WITHOUT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE PROJECT.

WHEN WAS WE INCLUDED A NICE FEATURE THAT'S NOT NECESSARY TO PUT THE CODE AND FOR US.

WE ASK FOR UNIT PRICING. THE UNIT PRICING ON THAT IS ABOUT 25,000.

IT'S BEEN DONE PERSONALLY AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IF WE WANTED TO.

IT'S REASONABLE THAT WAS TO PULL IT OFF. IN OTHER WORDS WE PUT A BIT ALTERNATIVE IN THEIR AND WE NEEDED TO FORCE ME CONNECTION AND LIFT STATION ON THE SEWER

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OTHER CONTRACTORS HAD ABOUT 1500 TO 2000. THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THIS NUMBER IS INTERPRETATION OF WHAT THE SIZE OF THE LIFT STATION NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. IT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE JUST TO PULL THAT OUT.

IS A GOOD CHANCE WE DON'T NEED THAT ANYWAY. IF WE DO WE ARE ABLE TO NAIL DOWN SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE NEED. WE PULLED UP TO PIECES AND RECOGNITION.

THE CONSTRUCTION COST OF 1.64 MILLION. >> WE ARE NOT FAR OFF FURTHER CONSTRUCTION BUDGET. WHEN YOU ADD IN THE CA SERVICES I ANTICIPATE THE PERMITTING TO BE A $60,000 CONTINGENCY WHICH WE MAY OR MAY NOT USE. THAT GIVES YOU WITH THIS PROJECT COST WILL BE. LESTER WAS ABOUT $50,000 ON THE DESIGN.

THIS IS WHAT'S REMAINING THIS FISCAL YEAR. >> I REMEMBER 38 FOR HANSEN.

IT WAS IN THE 30S SOMEWHERE. >> 69,000 IS THERE CA. I HAD A THOUGHT FOR HERE.

WE'RE NOT IMMENSELY FAR OFF ON THE BUDGET. THEY KIND OF GIVE YOU THOSE NOTES ON THE BREAKDOWN AND THEY PROVIDE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE THINK THEY WILL MAKE EVERY YEAR ON THE BUILDING OR WHAT MAINTENANCE AND COST UTILITIES WILL BE.

I ANTICIPATE A 40 YEAR LIFE CYCLE TO MAKE SENSE. I DID INCLUDE LIFECYCLE MAINTENANCE COSTS AND THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE WILL REPLACE THE ROOF AT 1520 YEARS.

OVER 40 LIFECYCLE IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE PROJECT. THIS PROJECT WILL IN MY DISCUSSION CROSSOVER THE FISCAL YEAR INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THE FACT THAT WE ARE SHORT IT WAS 90,000 FOR THE CONTINGENCY FROM 20,000 FROM OUR NEW F.GRANT RELATED FUNDS.

AS A REMINDER WE ACTUALLY BUDGETED AND PLANNED THE CAPITAL PROJECTS TO BE LATE TO

DESIGN THE PROJECT FUND WITH THE FAA. >> IN COMPARISON THESE TO THE NEW ONE THE THREE THAT JUST GOT COMPLETED THE FISCAL SIZE ARE THEY NOT THE SAME?

>> THEIR UNITS ARE THE DOOR ON THE WESTERN UNIT IS 45 FEET WIDE AND EASTERN TWO OR 40 FEET WIDE AND IT'S 30 5D. THESE ARE BIGGER THAN WHAT THEY PRODUCED.

>> WE'VE GOT FOLKS ON OUR LIST WITH THE DIAMONDS AND YOU CAN HANG EVERYWHERE TAKE IT.

YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT SIZE AIRCRAFT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF

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THERE IS ALWAYS AN UNKNOWN. >> AND LITTLE DENSE ON THIS. WE DON'T HAVE $770,000.

>> WE HAVE CLOSED THAT. >> IS ANOTHER LINE. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MONTHLY REPORT WHAT YOU'RE MISSING IS A CASH FORWARD BALANCE.

IN THE BUDGET IF YOU LOOK. WHAT THE HUNDRED AND 54 YEAR BUDGET WE INDICATE IS THE CASH RESERVE AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. IT'S A CASH FORWARD BALANCE

THAT'S FURTHER UP. >> INCLUDING THIS WE GENERALLY HAVE ENOUGH HISTORICALLY TO FUND UP TO HUNDRED AND $50,000 EACH YEAR IN THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR CAPITAL.

IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS 70 AND THE ASSUMPTION IS SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE CAPITAL

PROJECTS IT'S COMING FROM THE FUND BALANCE. >> WE HAVE 33,000 A YEAR FOR

CASH. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO GO WITH THE DOORS THAT THAT YOU ARE

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CONSTRUCTING. >> I WILL SECOND IT. >> THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.

>> THAT MOTION IS CARRYING. WE WILL GO THAT PLAN THEN. >> THESE WERE JUST IF YOU HAVE

[7.2 Discussion - Application for Ground Lease/Aeronautical Operation - World Skydiving Center]

SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT INFORMATION APPLIES. >> WILL REVIEW THE FRONT END

BEFORE WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF REVIEW. >> THESE GUYS ARE LIMITED TO FOUR TENDON JUMPERS IN THE AIR AT ANY TIME. NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME WITH THE NEW GUYS? IT'S THE THREE AIRCRAFT APPEAR AND I THINK THAT THEY ONE TO FREE FALL UNDER MORE LIKE JUMP SCHOOL AND REAL JUMPERS. THEY'RE GOING FOR A THRILL

RIDE. >> I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A HIGHLIGHT OF THE EXISTING OPERATOR. THE STANDARD SAYS THEY ADMITTED THEMSELVES FOR THEIR PLANE.FOUR. NO MORE THAN ONE JUMPER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THESE GUYS ARE TO GET AS MANY AS THEY CAN UP THERE. THEIR -15,000.

>> TO ME THERE WAS A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE EXISTING OPERATOR AND HIGHLIGHTS.

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>> HOMEY CLARIFIED. WE RECEIVED A PROPOSAL AND OUR NEXT TASK IS TO REVIEW THE PROPOSAL AND GIVE A RESPONSE. JUST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN REQUESTED TO DO THAT THAT'S EXACTLY EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING REVIEWED. THERE TWO THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED. ONE IS YOU CAN UNREASONABLY DISCRIMINATE BETWEEN THE ARRIVAL SERVICE PROVIDERS. IF YOU HAD A SECOND OPERATOR COME IN YOU CANNOT DISCRIMINATE BECAUSE IN SOME FASHION SHOWS AT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE LIMITATIONS ON THEM.

LET'S HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AT THE FRONT BECAUSE I ANTICIPATE THERE'S A VALID CONCERN ABOUT

THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND ADDING A SECOND JOB OPERATION. >> MY QUESTION IS THE GUYS WE HAVE ARE LIMITED TO FOUR TENDON JUMPERS IN THE AIR AND WE GIVE THEM TIME WHICH IS IN A PROBLEM WITH AIRPLANE THEY HAVE.HEY ONLY HAVE ONE AIRPLANE. IF THEY HAVE A SECOND OPERATOR ARE THEY CAN HAVE TO COORDINATE SEE YOU NEVER HAVE MORE THAN FOUR JUMPERS IN THE AIR AT ONE

TIME? >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THE EXISTING OPERATOR HAS A LEASE THAT SAYS THEY ARE ALLOWED FOR JUMPERS IN THE AIR WITH ONE AIRCRAFT.

>> WAITED, I THOUGHT THOSE WERE SELF-IMPOSED LIMITATIONS BY THE OPERATOR NOT WITH

AIRPORT PUT OUT. >> ARE MINIMUM STANDARDS DON'T DEFINE THE MINIMUM JUMPS FOR

THE AIRPORT. >> IS THE FACT THAT YOU COULD DO THIS SO LOW.

>> THOSE LIMITATIONS ARE COMING OUT OF THE EXISTING LEASE.

>> A MAJOR CONCERN WHEN I READ THROUGH THIS IS THAT THEY ARE ALREADY JUMPING THE GUN AND AT

SOME OF THIS BY THE END OF THE FIRST YEAR. >> I THINK THAT WE ARE GOOD TO

BE OVERLY COMPENSATING. >> AND WE TOLD THEM THAT THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE WITH THE LIMIT FOR THE TENDON JUMPERS? GOT THE IMPRESSION FROM HIM THAT THEY ARE THE KIND OF GUYS WHO WANT TO GO OUT WITH THREE PLANES AT A TIME. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE I

GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY WERE TANDEM BUT REAL JUMPERS. >> A BUSINESS PLAN SAYS THAT

THEY ARE GOING TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESCRIBED. >> GOING BACK TO THE LEASE AGREEMENT WE RESTRICTED TO COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE CURRENT OPERATION AND WITH RESTRICTIONS WOULD BE FOR THE NUMBER OF PLANES AND JUMPERS AT ONE TIME.

WOULD IT BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT NOW THAT WE PUT IN OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS OR GUIDELINES JUST BECAUSE IT WAS ANOTHER BEFORE IT PROBABLY WASN'T AN ISSUE THAT SOMETHING

THAT NEEDED TO BE CONSIDERED. >> SAFETY CONCERNS ARE NORMALLY RELATED TO SEVERAL

THINGS. >> HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED? I SHARED WITH YOU THE LAST PAYMENT FOR THE JOB SOMEWHAT EXISTING OPERATOR WITH THE PROPOSING ISSUES.

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>> THIS AND WHAT WE HAVE IN THE PACKET IS THERE APPLICATION.

WHEN I REACHED OUT FOR COMMENT ON THIS THE RECOMMENDATION WAS EXACTLY THIS.

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE AND YOU NEED SOMETHING FORMAL IN AN APPLICATION OR PROPOSAL FOR THE NEW AGENCY AND FOR US TO LOOK AT. GIVE ME A PROPOSAL AND APPLICATION. THE FAA IS THE ARBITER AND NORMALLY IF YOU MAKE A POSITION IN A COMPLAINT IS FILED AND THE PROVIDER AGREES WITH THAT INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND MAKING POSSESSIONS AND HAVING POTENTIAL COMPLAINT THEY TEND TO DO THE OTHER ROUTE AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ON THE FRONT END AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT THEY THINK ARE

GIVE YOU FEEDBACK. >> WHEN YOU GET YOURSELF IN BOTH PARTIES EXISTING JEM SCHOOLS AND THESE GUYS. PUT TOGETHER THAT SOP AND THEN SUBMIT THAT AS A RESULT WE AGREED TO I COULD TELL HOW. WE ARE COMPLYING WITH THE ADVISORY CIRCULAR.

YOU'RE NOT ASKING THE FAA TO HERE'S WHAT WE AGREED TO. YOU FIND A PROBLEM WITH THE OR DO YOU ACCEPT THIS. THAT BASICALLY TAKES THE ONUS OFF OF THE FAA.

I DON'T THINK THE FAA WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE SOP FACE. WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THEM AND SAY WE'VE AGREED TO THIS THAT MAKE SENSE. THE REASON I'M COMMUNICATIVE WITH THE FAA RIGHT NOW IS THERE PEACE IS CONFIRMING GRANT ASSURANCE COMPLIANCE WITH THE POSITION THAT WE ESTABLISHED ON AN ISLAND ANOTHER OPERATOR A SPECIFIC LEVEL TO COME IN.

>> YOUR DEMONSTRATING THROUGH DEVELOPMENT OF THIS THAT EVERY PARTY IS AN AGREEMENT.

>> YOUR ASSUMING THEY'RE GOING TO GREAT. >> ONCE YOU LOCK YOURSELF IN

THE AND YOU SAY WERE NOT COMING OUT UNTIL WE WERE GREETED SO. >> THE FIRST STEP IS ARE YOU TAKING THE POSITION THAT YOU ARE ALLOWING OPERATOR TO COME IN.

IF YOU ARE TO WHAT LEVEL CAN MAY OPERATE AND YOU BELIEVE THAT THE SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY.

I BELIEVE WITH TOM THAT YOU MAY HAVE SOME PETITION THAT YOU ARE REQUESTING AN OPERATOR TO TAKE ON. YOU STILL NEED AN SOP WE BRING THE TWO TOGETHER.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION OF WHAT POSITION THE PROPOSAL IS.

IF I CAN GET TO THAT POINT WERE BRINGING TWO PEOPLE TOGETHER ITS ORIGINAL OUTCOME ON THIS.

>> I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL HERE. IF WE GO AND TRY TO CHANGE THE STANDARD WE ARE DOING IT AFTER THE PROPOSAL WE WENT TO THESE RESTRICTIONS IN OUR STANDARD

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PROCEDURES BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN. >> TECHNICALLY IF YOU RECEIVE ADVISORY SERVICE WE HAD IN SOP IN PLACE OR SOMETHING PUBLISHED.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A SECOND OPERATION COMING IN THAT WOULD BE THE PROCEDURE WHERE YOU HAVE A DROP ZONE AND YOU'RE SAYING OKAY WE HAVE MULTIPLE OPERATORS.

ONLY ONE AGENCY CAN USE THE DROP ZONE. >> I THINK WE NEED TO PROCEED CAUTIOUSLY ON THIS. WE TAKE CERTAIN STEPS HERE AND WE HAVE THE FAA INVOLVED.

>> WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MEDICATING WITH THE FAA. THIS IS YESTERDAY IN THE JACKSONVILLE AREA. THIS IS WHEN HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

WE HAVE THE AIRPORT AND THIS IS CECIL, THIS IS JACK'S. THIS IS THE AFTERNOON FLOW IN

FERNANDINA. I'M LEANING ON MY CONVERSATION. >> COULD YOU SEND A PICTURE TO US PLEASE THINK WHAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST IS WHEN I READ THEIR BUSINESS PLAN THE FIRST THING AS THE FIRST TIME TANDEM SKY DRIVE HAS THE PROPER LEASE AND EXPERIENCE AND THE PARACHUTE SERVICES ARE ALREADY STANDING IN MY SCOPE OF READING THIS BEYOND JUST TANDEM JUMP.

THERE PEOPLE OUT THERE GETTING THERE JUMPS AND FOR WHATEVER REASON.

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>> THE PROPOSAL SKIT SCARES ME. THE MORE I READ THE SCARIER IT GOT TO ME. THEY ARE VERY STARTED TO EXPAND AND WE'VE GOTTEN HERE WITH

THEIR BUILDINGS AND PICTURES. >> WE ALREADY GROWING PAST WITH ME MIGHT BE ABLE TO

ACCOMMODATE. >> THIS IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE THERE BIGGER OPERATION.

>> HE MUST'VE RUN INTO SOME CONSTRAINTS. >> THERE'S NO ACTION.

I WANT YOU TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT WE HAVE AN APPLICATION. >> I GUESS YOU KNOW THE CONCERNS. SAFETY IS GOING TO BE COMPROMISED UNLESS THERE ARE SEVERE RESTRICTIONS ON HOW THEY OPERATE. HE JUST CAN'T LOOSELY DO ANYTHING ANYTIME YOU WANT. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. OUR STANDARD SAYS ONE HOUR AFTER SUNRISE AND ONE AFTER SUNSET. THERE'S THIS FROM THE TIME THE

SUN START SHINING TO THE TIME STOPS. >> SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S WITH A VAST FOUR. IT'S OUR DUTY.

>> THAT'S ANOTHER BUSINESS PLAN. >> THEY'RE GOING TO GO ANYTIME ANYBODY WANTS TO GO THAT YOU CAN EITHER JUMP WITH ONE OF OUR JUMPERS OR IF YOU'RE CERTIFIED

QUALIFIED. >> THE FAA IS NOT GOING TO LET YOU IMPOSE THAT KIND OF

RESTRICTION. >> WITH THE SAME THING AS HIS OTHER COMPANY.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. >> THAT'S WHY THIS IS A STICKY AREA.

>> WE HAVE LIMITATIONS ON EXISTING OPERATORS. >> ANOTHER POINT TO UNDERSTAND IS THE CURRENT GUYS ONLY GO UP TO 10,000. IT'S A BUDDY SAY THEY'RE GONNA GO UP TO 15. WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE CHECKS AIRSPACE?

>> AT 16. >> AND CONFUSED. >> THAT'S THEIR BASE.

>> WHICH AIRSPACE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? >> THIRD IN CLASSY BUT THEY'RE

NOT CAN IT BE IN THAT AREA. >> WHAT IS THE TOP OF THE APPROACH.

>> 15,000. >> EVERYTHING THEY REDO THEY WOULD STAY UNDER CONTROL

JACKSON. >> THEY DO NOW BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THE TOP OF JACKSON AIR FORCE BASE. IT'S HIS TEAM. THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM.

>> TO DO THAT THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CONTROL AGENCY.

THEY JUST IN THE FISH ON. WE KEEP EVERYBODY AWARE THAT THIS IS A CHALLENGING

CONVERSATION. >> IS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD GET EVERYBODY IN THE SAME AND START FORMULATING SOME AGREEMENTS. IT MIGHT JUST MAKE YOUR JOB A

LITTLE EASIER. >> YOU GET IT ON THE TABLE AT ONE TIME.

>> I THINK ON THE FAIRNESS SIDE OF THAT WE'RE LIMITING ONE SO WE HAVE TO LIMIT THE OTHER AND THAT FAIRNESS AGREEMENT WE ARTY HAVE THIS AGREEMENT SO I THINK WE CAN DRIVE THAT.

>> ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THAT IS LIMITED TO ONE SO WE HAVE TO PUT THAT ON THE OTHER

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TOO. I WANT TO THREE AIRPLANES ALSO. >> IS HITTING THEIR MAIN DISCRIMINATE AGAINST OR WE ARE NOT BEING REASONABLE THEY WILL FILE IT COULD BE A EXISTING

OPERATOR OR A NEW ONE. >> PROJECTIONS ON HOW THESE ARE.

>> I THINK ONE OF THE DISCUSSION POINTS IS EXACTLY THAT NOW.

WE SERVE AS HE SAW ENERGY. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FLIGHT SECTION HAPPENING NOW.

THAT'S ONE OF MY PRIMARY CONCERNS I WORRY ABOUT. AS AN UNCONTROLLED AIRPORT WAY OF TRAINING AND ACTIVITY. YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF PERPLEXITY WITH JOB OPERATORS.

THE LONGER THE SPACE IS CLOGGED AND YOU GET A BACKLOG OF TRAFFIC EFFICIENCIES.

THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS I WANT TO SHARE WITH THE FAA TO TELL THEM WHAT IS GOING ON HERE. HELP US THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION WITH A FRIEND AND

INSTEAD OF ON THE BACKEND. >> LET'S MOVE ON. THE FIRST ON BOTTOMS WHICH

[7.3 Recommendation Request - Bonhams & Butterfields Auctioneer Corp Annual Facility Use Agreement]

A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. >> I RECOMMEND WE APPROVE THEM AND IS ON USE AGREEMENT.

>> I SECOND. >> THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

>> THAT MOTION CARRIES. >> THE SECOND ONE IS THE USE AGREEMENT FOR THE 107.

[7.4 Recommendation Request - 1-107th Aviation REGT Annual Facility Use Agreement]

IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT TO THE LOCAL CONTROLLER THAT RUNS THE TOWER CAN STILL HERE TO FOR GOOD CONTINUITY AND ASSURANCE OPERATIONS. THIS FACILITY'S AGREEMENT IS FOR THEIR OPERATION AND DAVIDSON QUESTIONS THAT I'M CORRESPONDING ON THE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD SPECIFICALLY THE WAY. THE WORD SET UP IN A FACILITY USE AGREEMENT IS BECAUSE IT TAKES SO LONG TO GET THERE AGREEMENT FINALIZED WE APPROVE THE AGREEMENT WITH THE DRAFT AND WE REQUIRE THAT THEY SUBMIT THE FINAL IS APPROVED AND SIGNED BY THE FAA. DAVE IS ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CLASSIFICATION AND TRANSFER OF CONTROL AND I'M WORKING TO GET SOME THINGS ANSWERED SO I DON'T HAVE THOSE ANSWERED BUT

WE HAVE GOOD FEEDBACK. >> THERE WAS A LETTER OF AGREEMENT WITH JACKSON

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OPERATION. >> THEY REDO THAT LETTER OF AGREEMENT EVERY YEAR.

USUALLY GET SIGNED BEFORE CONCOURSE. SEEMS LIKE IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT EVERYONE HAS TRANSPARENCY TO NOTE IT LOOKS LIKE A BY NOW WE HAVE A FINAL SIGN WERE PUTTING HER PAPERWORK THROUGH. I USUALLY THE DRAFT AND THAT AND IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF

WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. >> I LIKE TO RECOMMEND A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE COULD MEET WITH THEIR CONTROLLERS AND EXPLAIN. IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL BUT ATTACKS DOWN TO THE MAINTENANCE AREAS AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE BLACK SHADOWS.

I HAVEN'T USED THE WORD BUCKSHOT AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

SOME OF YOU CAN SIT ON AND SAY HERE IT IS HERE. TAKE MAYBE 10 MINUTES TO EXPLAIN TO THEM SO THAT THE THEY KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO GET THERE AND WHAT TAXIWAYS TO

TAKE. >> WE DO THAT BEFORE EACH CONCORDE.

WE MEET WITH THE CONTROLLERS AND TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC VALIDATIONS OF ROLES AND WHAT'S BEING IN THE CONTROLLED AREA. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. AND ON THE CROISSANTS THROUGH.

WE CAN THROW SOME OF THAT ON THE LIST OF THE CONTROLLERS TOO.

>> RECOMMENDED THEY DO RECOMMEND REQUESTS FOR THE NATIONAL GUARD.

>> WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE RECOMMENDATION? >> IS IN FAVOR.

>> AYE. >> THE MOTION CARRIES. >> ANOTHER REQUEST CONCORDE.

[7.5 Recommendation Request - Concours d'Elegance Foundation, Inc Annual Facility Use Agreement]

>> THIS WHEN I HAVE INCREMENTED HERE. THIS WEEK THEY ASKED, NOR THE CITY MANAGER IF THE CITY WOULD CONSIDER ANY ACCOMMODATION IN THE EXPENSE OF THE AGREEMENT FOR CONCORDE AND OBVIOUSLY CORONAVIRUS IS A TOUGH YEAR AND THESE EVENTS MAY NOT BE SUCCESSFUL I TOLD MISTER MARTIN IF WE FELT THAT THERE SOME REASONABLE WAY IN WHICH WE CAN INSIST ON THE PRICING TO USE AGREEMENT THAT OUTLINES OUR FEE STRUCTURE WHICH IS THE 10,000 THAT APPLIES ONLY MAKE ABOUT $20,000 OFF OF THIS AGREEMENT AND ADDITION TO THE PARKING SPLIT THAT WE HAVE. IT'S KIND OF A LATE NOTICE QUESTION AND THERE'S NO MAGIC BULLET ON WHAT THEY WOULD BE. AT THAT I'LL JUST THROW IT OUT TO THIS GROUP.

FROM A BUDGETARY PERSPECTIVE IT WOULD MAKE SOME REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION HERE IT'S NOT SUPER SIGNIFICANT ORDER TO BE OKAY BUT WE DO ON REVENUE THIS YEAR.

>> DO WE KNOW IF WE GOT PAID FOR CONCORDE ANNUALLY WAS BASED ON ANY KIND OF PERCENTAGE OF

WHAT THEY TOOK IN TOTAL? >> IS NOT BASED ON A PERCENTAGE.

>> JUST A FEW THAT'S AGREED TO. >> LAST YEAR WE TOOK TALKED ABOUT CPI KEPT THINGS FLAT FOR CREDITORS. I'VE ALREADY INTERESTED IN THE FUTURE AND THE CPI WILL ADJUST THAT. I DON'T IT WILL BE AN ISSUE.

>> THEY WERE JUST: >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY CPI ADJUSTMENT.

WE LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> WE COULD. >> MISTER MARTIN ACTUALLY

AGREED THE CONVERSATION. >> THE SEVEN AND A PHONE CALL I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. IF THESE FIVE OR 10% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT MAYBE THAT'S IT ACCOMMODATION QUICKLY FIND OUT THEY FOUND A GOOD POINT.

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WITH A 10%. >> WE FIND OUT WHAT'S BEEN SOLD OR HOW MANY TICKETS THEY'VE ARTIE SOLD. THE SAYING THAT EVERYTHING CAN BE DOWNSIZED THIS YEAR.

>> ARE NOT A MONEYMAKING BUSINESS. THEY ARE A CHARITY.

>> TO SEE IN FACT THE NUMBERS ARE THIS THIS YEAR. CAN USE THAT AS AN INCENTIVE.

>> MY GUESS IS THERE'S SO MUCH BUILT UP TO THAT TO GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING.

>> ANYWAYS WE'RE IN FAVOR OF PLACING IT, JUST FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH.

>> OF THE GROUP IS CONTROL OF THE AGREEMENT I CAN GO BACK AT US AND HAVE A CHANCE TO GO DEEP ENOUGH TO HAVE THE DETAILS. IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE FORMAT I'LL GO BACK AND SEE IF THERE'S

A REASONABLY THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE IT. >> I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO COME. HAVE YOU TRIED TO GET A SEAT IN THE RESTAURANT?

>> ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. >> TELL IT WHATEVER WAS IN ARRAYS THAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMPLETION OF A 1A. THAT WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

>> ANYWAY IT'S GOOD. >> THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY. >> WHAT IF I ASK FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO IMPROVE INVESTIGATIONS WITH SOME REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT WE CAN SEE THE FORMAT IF THERE IS SOMETHING I WILL DIG DEEPER AND FIGURE IT OUT AND GET THE

NUMBERS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S REASONABLE THERE. >> I RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS YOU SEE WITH THE PRICING. AND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH

THIS. >> WE HAVE A SECOND. >> THOSE IN FAVOR?

[7.6 Recommendation Request - Amendment/Assignment of Southshore CRE Inc Ground Lease to FHB Aircraft Hangars LLC]

AYE. >> THAT MOTION IS CARRIED. >> THE LAST ONE.

>> THE LAST ONE IS SOMETHING THAT WE DID PREVIOUSLY. IT'S FOR THE SOUTH SHORE SERIES WHICH CONSTRUCTED THREE HANGERS ON THE SIDE OF THE AIRPORT. HE WORKED IN THE ASSIGNMENT REQUEST AND ACTUALLY CHANGED IT AND THEY LIKE TO ASSIGN THESE TWO.

IT'S VERY SIMILAR IN THE SAME AMENDMENT. I DID REMOVE THE QUESTION WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME ABOUT GRANTING RIGHTS TO AIRSPACE. T WAS A GOOD QUESTION AND I HAD TO REMOVE THAT. IT'S A FAIRLY STANDARD AMENDMENT AND IT REMAINS THE SAME AS SOMETIME AGO WHICH IS A RECAP WITH SOME NEW FOLKS IN THE ROOM.

THEY HAD ASKED FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS THEM TO AND IT ALLOWS THEM TO SELL THE UNIT. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW IN THE LAST REQUEST TO THE

DIFFERENT CORPORATIONS. >> LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND THE.

>> A SECOND. >> IS IN FAVOR?>> AYE. >> MOTION CARRIES.

[8.1 Monthly Airport Director Report]

>> LET'S LOOK AT THE AIRPORT DIRECTOR REPORT. >> WE TALK ABOUT THE HANGER PROJECT IT'S 97 AND TENTATIVELY THE WEEK OF JUNE 1. PROBABLY WEEK TO WEEK AND-A-HALF CLOSURE. THE FUEL FARM PROJECT IS ONGOING.

IT'S IN ABOUT A WEEK AND-A-HALF AND THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT SYSTEM BACK UP AND RUNNING. THE SITE WORK I BELIEVE WILL BE DONE THIS FRIDAY AND THERE'S A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE PUT FUEL IN THE NEW TANKS IT HAS TO SIT AND IT'S CALLED A SOAK TEST TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING CONTAMINATES THE FUEL. THAT IS OUR NEXT STEP.

WAITING ON THE JET TO GO ON THE NEW TANK. YOU'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE.

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TIMELINE. >> WHAT WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE TO ALLOW THE TANK TO BE USED? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THIS IS NEW. I'M GLAD YOU ASKED US.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROJECT PLANNING PHASE. WE WERE REPLACING THE JET TANK AND WE HAD A BIG AUCTION FOR THE THIRD TANK ON THE FARM. THE THIRD TANK WAS SO DEFENSIVE WE COULDN'T AFFORD THE ALTERNATE. WE REALIZED WE COULD LEAVE ONE OF THE EXISTING TANKS AND IT'S A COMPANY THAT INSPECTS OUR TANKS TO GIVE FEEDBACK.

5 TO 10 YEARS HE CAN GET OUT OF IT AT LOW COST. THAT EXISTING TANK AND YOU SEE THE EXISTING TANK STILL THERE WITH THE FUEL FARM. YOU PLUMMET INTO THE NEW JET TANK. WE ACTUALLY OUTFITTED WITH CALLED ASSUMING THAT WE WANT TO PUT ANOTHER SET NEXT TO IT. THEY LITERALLY COME IN AND COME INTO THE JET TANK AND YOU HAVE A SATELLITE RESERVE THAT USES EVERYTHING ON THE TANK AND THE STUFF THAT'S ON EXISTING TANK THAT GOES AWAY. IT'S JUST A TANK THAT IS FOUND IN.

IT'S THAT PLUMBING PIECE THAT IS CLEANING AND CONVERTING. >> TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH LIFE OUT OF IT AS WE COULD. THE DISCUSSION IS PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR BELIEVE THAT THERE.

>> WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER INSPECTION ONCE ITS BILLING CLEANED UP?

>> NO MAN. THE SUBTEST IS WHEN YOU FILL IN A TANK THEY PUT THE EPOXY COATING ON THE INSIDE OF THE TANK. BECAUSE IT'S NOW IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO LEAVE IN THE FUEL. THEY'VE BEEN IN PLACE FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY DON'T NEED TO BE TESTED AGAIN. THE LONGER THEY'VE BEEN SITTING AFTER CONSTRUCTION THE LAST TIME YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO LEAVE THIS FUEL IN THEIR BECAUSE IT'S LIKE LIKELY WILL BE GENTLE

BECAUSE IT'S PRIMARILY NEW COATINGS WHEN YOU CONSTRUCT IT. >> EVENTS THE COLLEGE HE

STARTED OFFICIALLY IN APRIL AND EVERYTHING IS GOING WELL. >> NATE, ANY WORD ON THE START

UP? >> ACTUALLY CORRESPONDED WITH THE AVIATION.

WE CAN ADMINISTER THEM IN OPERATING PERMIT AND AT THE TIME WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE SOMETIME IN APRIL. THEY HAVE NOT YET AND I HAVE NOT CONFIRMED A DATE.

>> THERE IS ANOTHER CARIES ACT AND THE FAA WITH AIRPORT. LAST YEAR WAS 30,000 APPLICATIONS I WOULD CONSUMMATE THE OFFSET FOR THE OPERATION COSTS.

TO SAY CONGRATS OKAY GOOD FOR THE AIRPORT AS WELL. >> I THINK THAT WAS IT.

>> UNLESS YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING FOR ME. >> WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS

NOISE ABATEMENT. >> WE TALK ABOUT SHARING INFORMATION AND NOISE CONCERNS.

I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY WE CAN CONSOLIDATE INTO ONE DOCUMENT THAT'S EASY TO.

IF I GIVE YOU A MAP AND PUT SOME RED DOTS ON IT. IN THE LAST MONTH THOSE OF THE

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ONE RED DOT ON THE 19TH SIDE SHOWS THESE WALLS AND THAT ONE PERTAINS TO BE DOING PRACTICES ON RUNWAY FOUR. ON THE GLOW THEY WOULD REPORT THE INDIVIDUAL DOING IT ON 180.

THEY COME BACK AND SHOOT THE APPROACH IN ANOTHER DIRECTION. IT TOOK A PICTURE OF THE AIRPLANE AND BE IN THE ATP AIRCRAFT. WE CAN SHARE THE INFORMATION AND STICK TO THE PATTERNS AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD BE BOTHERSOME TO THE RESIDENCE. WE'VE SEEN A RESURGENCE OF THE FIGHT STRUCTURE ACTIVITY HERE.

IT'S WITHOUT A DOUBT OUR BUSIEST FLIGHT TRAINING RUNWAY. I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME HIGHER VOLUME ACTIVITY BROUGHT THROUGH HERE RECENTLY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT FOLKS DOWN THERE. IT ALSO LED TO A LETTER THAT I'VE MAILED AN EMAIL TO THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS IN JACKSONVILLE BECAUSE AS YOU SAW COMING UP IN FRONT OF YOU AND WE WATCH THE TRAFFIC A LITTLE CLOSER TRYING TO DIAGNOSE WHAT WOULD BE MEANINGFUL HELPFUL TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE SOUTH OF THE AIRPORT. THEIR GUIDELINES AND I THINK THERE ARE TWO ITEMS THERE THAT'S WHY SEND IT TO THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS. I'VE NOTED THAT A GOOD PORTION OF LIGHT TRAFFIC IS KEEPING A TIGHTER PATTERN PRETTY OFTEN. WE TRY TO PICK APART TWO THINGS TO FOCUS ON AND GET THAT TO THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS. IN ADDITION TO SENDING THESE TWO EMAIL ADDRESSES I HAVE HARD COPIES IN THE MAIL AT A DISCUSSION OF THE TRADING MANAGER AT ATP THIS WEEK ON TUESDAY. WE WENT OVER THE LETTER AND HERE'S A COPY OF IT. IF THEY SEE SOMETHING AND GUIDELINES THAT THEY THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL PLEASE GIVE US THAT FEEDBACK. THE POSITIVE CONVERSATION AND WE HOPE WE HEAR BACK. IT'S A GOOD CONNECTION TO STRESS AND FEEDBACK AND LIKEWISE THERE SOMETHING FROM TENETS THAT I CAN PACK BACK TO THEM.

>> I UNDERSTAND THE WOMAN STICK ACROSS WHEN TURNING HIGH POWER CLIMBING OUT.

THE OTHER ONE LOOKS LIKE A BEAST TURN IN A LAND ON 31. THEY SHOULD BE RELATIVELY QUIET

THERE. >> I THINK MOST OF THE FOLKS THAT I HEAR FROM PEOPLE SOUTH, IT'S PURELY ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS A LOT OF THIS IS CONNECTED TO THE VOLUME.

MY HOPE IS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO LIMIT THAT ACTIVITY GETTING HIGH WITH AT

LEAST GET THE NOISE AND HELP WITH THAT. >> I THINK THEY DID A GREAT

JOB ON THIS. >> MAYBE YOU WANT TO CONSIDER PUTTING IT AS HAVING A REPORTER SURE.. IT SHOWS THAT YOU TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO TRY TO HOLD A SOUND. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS THE ACTIVITY WHERE TAKING.

IT WOULD HELP IN THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PUBLIC THAT YOU'VE TAKEN THE INITIATIVE ON THIS. IT'S ONE MORE STEP TO GET THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT YOU DO.

>> IT'S REALLY GOOD THING. >> ALSO PUT THIS IN THE FPO ON THE FLIGHT PLANNING ROOM.

>> IS A GOOD PLACE TO GET THE CLIPS TO PUT IT OUT TO THE LOCAL PILOTS.

I DON'T THINK THE PROBLEMS WITH OUR GUYS OR TENANTS AS MUCH. NOT THAT MANY STAY IN THE

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IF YOU HAVE A STOP USED WHEN THEY USE 13. >> STATING THAT THE NEWSLETTER

TO I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD ARTICLE. >> THEREFORE GETTING OUT AHEAD

OF THE NOISE ISSUE AND BEING PROACTIVE. >> THIS CONVERSATION SOME

SIMILAR TO YOU? >> IS INCIDENTAL BECAUSE THIS IS A BUSY TIME OF THE YEAR.

IS PROBABLY THE HIGHEST VOLUME OF FEEDBACK EVERY MONTH TIME PERIOD PART OF WHAT I ALSO KNOW

IS WE HAVE SOME NEW COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE TOO. >> A BIG PART OF IT IS THE COOL WEATHER AND PEOPLE HAVE THE DOORS AND WINDOWS OPEN. ONCE YOU CLOSE THE DOOR YOU DON'T HEAR IT SO WHEN THE AIR-CONDITIONER COMES ON ITS HOT AND HUMID FIGURED OUT IT'S LIKE WALKING IN WITH THE MUSIC ACROSS THE STREET. WHEN I STAND IN THE STREET BECAME INHERENT IN HERE. THE SAME WITH THOSE AIRPLANES. WHEN THE HEAT AND HUMIDITY,

THOSE PEOPLE ARE TO BE IN THE INSIDE. >> THESE ARE THE GUIDELINES WE HAVE IN PLACE. FROM A FLYING SIDE YOU SEE SOME CONDITIONS IN THEIR QUALITY CHART OF THE AIRPORT AND OTHER WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION I WANT TO SAY

THANKS FOR SAYING NICE WORDS. YOU SEE THAT A LOT OF AIRPORTS. >> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER

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COMMISSION MEMORABLE PORTS OR COMMENTS? >> THEY DID GET THE FEEDBACK

WHICH THEY RECOMMEND FOR THE FEES RIGHT? >> WE TALKED ABOUT THE FEES,

>> WHO OWNS THE BUILDING THAT THE PRESENT JUMPERS CHOMPED. >> FULL DISCLOSURE IF YOU WENT BACK IN THE HISTORY OF LOOKING AT THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE LEASE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT A PERMANENT FACILITY IN THERE. YOU CAN SEE DIAGRAM OF SOME DRAWINGS. IT'S NOT IN MY HUMBLE OPINION LAID OUT AS WELL AS IT COULD'VE BEEN. FROM A NAVY PERSPECTIVE AND MINIMUM STANDARDS IS THAT MINIMAL REQUIREMENTS? THE POSITION IS YOU HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS.

WE ARE FULLY AWARE OF THAT. >> NO POWER, NO WATER. >> IT GOES IN THE ANTICIPATION

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BACKGROUND. >> NEED, AND YOUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEW JUMP SCHOOL, HAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT WHILE WE HAVE CONCOURSE PARKING THEY WOULD BE SHUT DOWN?

>> THEY STOPPED BY AND I SHOWED THEM WHERE THE EXISTING OPERATOR OPERATED FROM.

>> THEY'RE GOING TO PUT SOME BUILDINGS THERE RIGHT? >> IT'S GOING TO BE OVER BY

THE FENCE. >> WE WERE TO THE PROPOSAL IF YOU HAVE A SECOND OPERATOR AND YOU GET THROUGH THAT PROPOSAL I THINK YOU PROBABLY WANT YOUR DROPS ON ACTIVITY TO BE IN THE SAME LOCATION. YOU PROBABLY WANT A FACILITY ADJACENT TO SOMETHING LIKE

[10. NEXT MEETING DATE]

THAT. >> THE NEXT MEETING DATE? >> CERTAINLY DO ONE AND MAY.

>> THIS YEAR IS GOING BY FAST. >> IT WOULD BE JUNE WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE ONLY ASK

CONSIDERATION OF THE MEETING IF WE GET FEEDBACK. >> IT WILL BE JUNE 10.

>> IN THAT CASE I GUESS WE ARE

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