>> GAVEL >> CALL TO ORDER THE FEBRUARY 16TH, 2021 CITY COMMISSION MEETING.
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MISS BES WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MAYOR LEDNOVICH.AND JUST A FEW HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS, ALL PERSONAL DEVICES, IF YOU CAN SILENCE THOSE, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
WE ARE UNDER COVID-19 PROTOCOL SO WE CAN KEEP OUR MASKS ABOVE OUR NOSES THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC AND MOST EFFECTIVE.
AND OUR DECORUM IS WE CONDUCT OURSELVES WITH WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND RESPECTFUL MANNER.
SO WITH THAT, VICE MAYOR, WE WILL LEAD US THROUGH THE PLEDGE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION BY THE REVEREND STANLEY PALMER AND THE O'NEIL MEMORIAL BAPTIST CHURCH.
LET'S BOW IN PRAYER, DEAR LORD, IN HUMBLE SUBMISSION, HUMBLE RECOGNITION OF YOUR AUTHORITY, YOUR SOVEREIGNTY, YOUR SUPREME AUTHORITY, OVER ALL THINGS WE SURRENDER TO YOU, FOR YOU ARE THE ALL KNOWING, ALL SEEING ALMIGHTY GOD.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE, AND THE MERCY THAT YOU HAVE SHOWN US THROUGH THE YEARS.
WE ASK YOUR PRESENCE, AND WE SEEK YOUR GUIDANCE THROUGH THESE PROCEEDINGS TONIGHT.
WE ASK FOR WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING.
WE PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED THE MOST VULNERABLE OF US.
WE PRAY FOR OUR LEADERSHIP THAT THEY WILL BE THAT THEY WILL EXERCISE WISDOM AND ALL THEIR ENDEAVORS CONTINUE TO LEAD US TO GUIDE US AND PROTECT US THIS WEEK.
[4.1 PRESENTATION - AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH ]
PRESENT PRESENTATION AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH, THE ELM STREET SPORTSMEN'S ASSOCIATION IN RECOGNITION OF AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH WILL PRESENT PLAQUES HONORING MAYOR CHARLES ALBERT JR. AND VICE MAYOR COMMISSIONER MISS PATRICIA THOMPSON.DO WE WHO'S REPRESENTING [INAUDIBLE].
WE'RE GOING TO ASK MR. ALBERT'S FAMILY TO COME UP.
THE ELM STREET SPORTSMEN ASSOCIATION LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
AN EXTRAORDINARY LEADER WHO LED PEOPLE FROM WHERE THEY WERE TO PLACES THEY COULD ONLY DREAM OF.
FIRST BLACK MAN SINCE RECONSTRUCTION OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR VISIONARY GUIDANCE MOTIVATION AND OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP.
ELM STREET SPORTSMEN ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT LAWRENCE ALBERTIE FEBRUARY 16 2021.
[APPLAUSE] THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH AND COMMUNITY.
I CERTAINLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT CHARLES [INAUDIBLE] ALTHOUGH HE WASN'T HOME MOST OF THE TIME.
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GIVING HIM THIS HONOR THIS AFTERNOON.AND I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF IT.
I WISH I COULD HAVE WORDS TO SAY I JUST CAN'T EXPRESS IT ALL.
BUT YOU HAVE BEEN A WONDERFUL CITY, A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.
AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF ELM STREET SPORTSMAN ASSOCIATION.
THIS YOUNG LADY THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO GIVE THIS LEADERSHIP AWARD TO IS A YOUNG LADY I MET AND I THINK IT WAS 71 AT M STREET.
WE USED TO PLAY BALL STUFF TOGETHER AND SHE WAS JUST A [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO PLAY SHE WANT TO PLAY.
AT THE END OF THE DAY SHE HELD HER OWN FOR 50 YEARS OF SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY, FIRST BLACK WOMAN TO RUN FOR POLITICS OFFICE, AND FINALLY A BEACH, FLORIDA FIRST AND ONLY BLACK FEMALE CITY COMMISSIONER AND VICE MAYOR MS. PATRICIA THOMPSON.
[APPLAUSE] VICE MAYOR, I HAVE A COMMENT FROM A CITIZEN [INAUDIBLE] WHO WANTED ME TO READ THIS INTO THE RECORD.
AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW DR. TOM [INAUDIBLE].
OKAY, AND SO, DR. WASHBURN OF 1609 LAKE PARK DRIVE, SAYS THE FOLLOWING.
I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF PATRICIA THOMPSON, WHO IS BEING HONORED DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
AS VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER, MISS THOMPSON'S NOT ONLY REPRESENTED THE BLACK MEMBERS OF OUR CITY, SHE ALSO REPRESENTED WOMEN.
MISS THOMPSON HAS SERVED THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN SO MANY WAYS OVER MOST OF HER LIFETIME.
VOLUNTEERISM IS HER MODUS OPERANDI.
FINE EXAMPLES INCLUDE MENTORING YOUNGER AND OLDER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, SERVING AS NAACP LOCAL CHAPTER PRESIDENT FOR 20 YEARS AND ADVOCATING FOR THE WELFARE OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY WHEN THE NINTH STREET PROJECT WAS PROPOSED THERE.
THREE YEARS AGO THIS MONTH, I JOINED THE CITY COMMISSION AND HONORING PATRICIA THOMPSON, FOR HER MANY YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY AND THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
I'M [INAUDIBLE] 325 VERNON STREET WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE PATRICIA THOMPSON.
JUST LIKE THE JUST LIKE THE INDIVIDUAL SAID SHE'S BEEN IN IN JUST AN INCREDIBLE MENTOR TO ME PERSONALLY, AS I MOVE BACK HERE TO BE WITH MY FAMILY HOME WHAT YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT HERE BUT ON THE PICTURE ON THIS CERTIFICATE IS SOME PICTURES OF GUYS REMEMBER THE MOVIE BLACK PANTHER, THE [INAUDIBLE] THE BLACK FEMALE WARRIORS.
WELL, THAT'S AN ACTUAL THEY ACTUALLY EXISTED.
THEY WERE THE HOMIE WARRIOR QUEENS.
AND WHEN I THINK OF PATRICIA THOMPSON, I THINK SHE WAS THIS WAS A GROUP WHO PROTECTED THE KING OF DAHOMEY THAT HE WAS MARRIED TO THEM AND THEY WERE FIERCE WARRIORS.
THEY WERE FEARED WHEN THEY WALKED DOWN THE STREET MEN MOVED OUT THE WAY.
SO WHAT BETTER DEPICTION OF PATRICIA THAN THE HOMIE WARRIOR AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS IT SAYS THE HONORABLE PATRICIA A THOMPSON CHARISMATIC, HIGHLY RESPECTED, HONORABLE LEADER LIBERATOR FREEDOM FIGHTER AND CIVIL RIGHTS CHAMPION.
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SHE WAS THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN TO BE ELECTED TO POLITICAL OFFICE IN FERNANDINA.WITH THE PASSING ON OF NAMED CHARLES ALBERT SHE'S THE ONLY ELECTED BLACK FERNANDINA BEACH OFFICIAL STILL LIVING.
SHE IS AN ACTIVE MENTOR TO MANY LEADERS FUTURE LEADERS IN THE FERNANDINA BEACH COMMUNITY.
AND THE AUDITORIUM AT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING CENTER WAS NAMED IN HER HONOR.
SHE IS CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL ACADEMY DEMOCRATIC BLACK CAUCUS, THE FIGHTING SPIRIT OF THE DAHOMEY WARRIOR QUEEN LIVES ON.
AND WE HAVE ONE OTHER RECOGNITION FROM MAYOR ALBERT.
I ONLY GOT THE TIME TO HANG WITH HIM A LITTLE BIT.
I LEARNED HE KNEW MY GRANDMOTHER AND MY MAYOR ALBERT GRADUATED FOUR YEARS HE AND HIS LOVELY WIFE HERE, GRADUATED FOUR YEARS BEFORE MY DAD DID IN 53 YOU GUYS WERE IN 49 I BELIEVE.
SO THESE ARE ESTEEMED GRADUATES OF THE PECK PROGRAM.
AND THEY JOINED THE RANKS OF JOHN LEWIS AND LANGSTON HUGHES AND AND MAYA ANGELOU, WHO ALL GRADUATED FROM PECK SCHOOLS.
MY MOTHER GRADUATED FROM A PECK SCHOOL IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
SO I MEAN, ARE THE ROSENWALD SCHOOL GIRLS IN ROSENWALD SCHOOL.
RIGHT? SO THIS IS JUST A CERTIFICATE OF HONOR TO APPRECIATE ME ROBERT SAYS THE HONORABLE CHARLES ALBERT, A HIGHLY RESPECTED EDUCATOR, COACH, MENTOR, CITY COUNCILMAN AND MAYOR FERNANDINA.
CHARLES ALBERT WAS A TRAILBLAZER AND A PILLAR OF THE COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE NOT MANY LIVES THAT ARE NOT POSITIVELY IMPACTED BY HIS GRACE, CALM DEMEANOR, THOUGHTFUL, CARING LEADERSHIP, AND HIS LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN ATTITUDE.
A KOREAN WAR VETERAN MAYOR ALBERT HAD A TREMENDOUS LOVE FOR HIS LOVELY WIFE, [INAUDIBLE], FERNANDINA AND BASEBALL.
CHARLES HARBOR BASEBALL FIELD NEXT TO MARTIN LUTHER KING CENTER WAS NAMED IN HIS HONOR.
MAYOR ALBERT WILL BE GREATLY MISSED, BUT ITS IMPACT ON FERNANDINA WILL BE FOREVER LASTING.
AND JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE IT.
I LOVE THIS LITTLE ARMY PICTURE OF MAYOR ALBERT.
I DIDN'T KNOW HE'D BEEN IN THE MILITARY.
WE FINALLY KNOW NOT HAVE SPENT MORE TIME SITTING HERE TELLING THE MILITARY LIFE.
[APPLAUSE] TO THE MAYOR, CITY COMMISSION, CITY OFFICIALS, ELM STREET SPORTSMAN'S ASSOCIATION, NASSAU COUNTY DEMOCRATIC BLACK CAUCUS, AND ALL OF YOU IN YOUR RESPECTIVE PLACES.
EVERYBODY CAN BE GREAT, BECAUSE ANYBODY CAN SERVE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE TO SERVE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE YOUR SUBJECT AND VERB AGREE TO SERVE.
YOU ONLY NEED A HEART FULL OF GREASE OR SOUL GENERATED BY LOVE.
I THANK GOD FOR THOSE QUALIFICATIONS.
I THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR GENEROSITY.
I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP BLACK HISTORY ALIVE BY BEING A PART OF IT.
OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE BECOME SILENT ABOUT THINGS THAT MATTER.
ONCE AGAIN, THANK ALL OF YOU THAT SIT IN FERNANDINA BEACH WHERE I HAVE ALL OF MY 65 YEARS.
WAYNE PETERSON 206 SOUTH 12TH STREET AND I HAVE THE EVENT THE MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR COME FORWARD PLEASE.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE SPORTSMEN ASSOCIATION.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS PANDEMIC FIRST HIT, IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE.
AND IT TIMED IT JUST RIGHT WE PARTNERSHIP WITH TRINITY CHURCH AND WE HAD VOLUNTEERS COME OUT AND WE WERE SIX FEET DISTANT.
AND WE HAD ALL THE FULL 100 PEOPLE WE PASSED OUT FULLY THROUGH FARMSHARE AND THE CITY WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO LET US USE THE REC CENTER AND YOU KNOW IT WAS IT WAS IT WAS AWESOME THAT DAY.
AND YOU KNOW YOU CAN SEE THE PEOPLE THAT WAS IN NEED AND YOU KNOW IT BROUGHT TEARS TO YOUR EYES AND STUFF.
SO I'M ACTUALLY GOT TO COME UP AND STAND BEHIND ME THEY DESERVE AS MUCH AS Y'ALL.
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[APPLAUSE] MAYOR, VICE MAYOR.BRADLEY, STURGES, [INAUIDBLE].
ROSS, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING HELP US OUT.
THE SPORTSMAN ASSOCIATION AND I CAN ACTUALLY GET THE SEAT AMOUNT OUT ON THE WAY BACK BEHIND THERE.
BEHIND THE [INAUDIBLE], SCOTT AND JOHN [INAUDIBLE] THEY'VE BEEN AMAZING WITH US WORKING WITH US.
SO WE CANNOT EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE.
GRATITUDE PRESENTED TO THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE RENDERED DOING MAKING OUR COMMUNITY STRONGER, SAFER, HEALTHIER, BY ALLOWING US TO BUY FOOD AND GIVEAWAY ON CITY PROPERTY.
YOU HAVE HELPED US TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF OTHERS AND YOU HELPED US TO REACH THOSE IN NEED.
SINCESERLY ELM STREET SPORTMANS ASSOCIATION.
LAWERANCE ALBERTIE PRESIDENT, FEBRUARY 16 2021.
[APPLAUSE] I THINK YOU SHOULD BE IN THIS PICTURE AS WELL.
THE CITY SUPPLIES THE SUPPORT.
THEY RAISE FUNDS, THEY DISTRIBUTE FOOD, WE PROVIDE THE FACILITY, BUT OUR THANKS GO TO YOU FOR BEING AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE YOU MAKE FERNANDINA FERNANDINA, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YOU GUYS ARE ACTUALLY THE PILLAR OF THE COMMUNITY.
YOU WERE BEFORE COVID, AND EVEN MORE SO NOW.
PLUS I THINK WE GOT A FARM DAY COMING UP SOON.
JUST JUST DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
ITEM 4.2 PRESENTATION OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND I
[4.2 PRESENTATION - PARKS & RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE]
BELIEVE WE HAVE THE CHAIR, FAITH ROSS WITH US.THIS EVENING I AM HERE TO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ON THE 2021 PARKS AND RECREATION PLAN COMMONLY KNOWN AS PRAC TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE BACKGROUND.
MS. ROSS ASKS TO RUN THE SCREEN.
>> TO GO BACK TO SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, THE PRAC COMMUNITY
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FOUND OUT WE DID NOT HAVE BYLAWS SO WE FORMED A COMMITTEE AND WE DECIDED TO BRING TOGETHER ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE IT MORE SUCCESSFUL.THEY TOOK THE TIME TO WRITE THE PROOF THE DATING OF THE FACILITIES ORDINANCE WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS COMPILED BY A NUMBER OF CITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND FLORIDA AND THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET THIS EVENING AND IF WE HAD AN APPROVAL OF Â" THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED BUT WE DID TAKE THE TIME EVEN THOUGH WE HAD COVID, WE PUT TOGETHER SUBCOMMITTEES AND HOPEFULLY GIVE YOU SOMETHING YOU COULD UTILIZE.WE APPROVED SECTOR.
[INDISCERNIBLE] THAT WAS A GENEROUS DONATION THEY GAVE US SOME MORE MATURE Â" TO OFFER SOME SHADE BUT TO OFFER THE SUPPORT TO OUR VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS IN THE CITY OFFERING THOSE TREMENDOUS Â" TO HONOR THOSE WHO HAD GIVEN TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF HOURS TO THE CITY.
THE NEXT SLIDE, AND 2021 WE WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW MEMBER PACKET.
I WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW MEMBER PACKET WE PUT TOGETHER.
HOWEVER WE ARE WAITING ON IT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SHARE THAT SO WHEN A NEW MEMBER COMES IN THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET THE INFORMATION AND HAVE IT BE EFFECTIVE FROM THE START ALSO WE WANT TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET THOSE AMENDMENTS ARE ALSO IN A REVIEW OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN FOR THE YEAR 2021.
THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO HAVE INPUT ON IN 2021'S MASTER PLAN REVIEW WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE SATURDAY MEETINGS AND ALSO EVENING MEETINGS SO THAT WE GET ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY INVOLVED.
PART OF THOSE WORKING PARTS IS A NUMBER OF THINGS HAVING TO DO WITH ALL OF OUR FACILITIES AND ALSO A PLAN AND THE MASTER PLAN REVIEW IT DEALS WITH THE CEMETERY SERVICES THAT WE HOPE TO OFFER WERE REDUCED IN 2021 ACCORDING TO DOCTOR BARR'S MASTER PLAN ORIGINALLY WE WERE REQUESTED TO REVIEW OUR SERVICES SO THAT WE DO NOT POSSIBLY REPLICATE THOSE WHO ARE PRESENTLY EXISTING IN THE COMMUNITY SO WE WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW HIS ADVICE OFFER THE COMMISSION SUGGESTIONS ON SERVICES AND FACILITIES THAT WE MAY EFFECTIVELY COST SHARE NOW.
PRESENTLY, WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
WE LEASE A FIELD FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD ON HICKORY STREET WE ALSO LEASE THE AIRPORT PROPERTY FOR RECREATION FACILITIES AND WE ALSO LEASE NORTH BEACH PARK WHICH IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR RESOURCES WHERE WE PUT OUR MONEY YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER WHAT WE ARE INVESTING IN ALSO NASSAU COUNTY HAS PASSED AND APPROVED A MASTER PLAN FOR PARKS AND RECREATION SO WE MAY WANT TO DOVETAIL WITH THAT.
FUNDING AGAIN, LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR FUNDING ISSUES THAT HAPPEN WITH PARKS AND RECREATION, THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND RIGHT AWAY WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE MASTER PLAN THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT STOOD OUT THAT THE COMMITTEE MADE SOME DECISIONS THEY WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND DIFFERENT LANGUAGE FOR.
ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS EXISTING IN THE MASTER PLAN WAS LISTED AS CHANGING THE NAME OF ATLANTIC AVENUE TO Â" WHICH MEANS AVENUE OF FLAGS THEY RECOMMEND WE LEAVE THE NAME OF ATLANTIC AVENUE WHERE IT IS.
ACCORDING TO MASTER PLAN, TO BE REMOVED FROM THE RIVERFRONT THE WAY IT READS NOW.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE ON THIS COMMISSION IS GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
BUCCANEER FIELD, PUTTING THE MASTER Â" ACCORDING TO THE MASTER PLAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE NEAR THE AIRPORT COMPLEX AFTER LOOKING AT THAT, SINCE WE ARE LEASING THAT PLANNED AIRPORT MAY WANT TO USE THAT FOR SOMETHING ELSE IN THE FUTURE.
WE WOULD HATE TO LOSE A FIELD.
LEAVING IT A CENTRAL PARK IS PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.
AND THE MASTER PLAN PROPOSES THAT WE CHANGE THE ATLANTA REC CENTER FROM THE NAME,
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REC CENTER TO THE AQUATIC CENTER AND WE WERE TO PUT A WATER SLIDE AND PICKLE BALL COURT LAZY RIVER IN THERE.PRAC RECOMMENDS THAT WE LEAVE THE PICKLE BALL COURT OUT OF CENTRAL PARK AND ATLANTIC REC CENTER STAYS AS IT IS AND WE LEAVE THE BUILDINGS WITH CURRENT USE, IF AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE SOMEONE WANTS TO PUT IN A LAZY RIVER OR WATERSLIDE THAT MIGHT BE A FUTURE OPTION.
A FEW MORE AMENDMENTS THAT PRAC PROPOSED AND ONE THAT IS EXISTING IN THE PRESENT MASTER PLAN IS THE PACK CENTER.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BECOME AN ARTS EDUCATION AND CULTURE CENTER.
APPARENTLY THAT HAS DEFINITELY NOT HAPPENED.
SO, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS ON THE GROUND, PRAC RECOMMENDS WE LEAVE THE CENTER AS IT IS WITH IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED USES.
THE NEXT ONE PRAC FELT WAS VERY IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE FACILITIES AT NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND WE LIKE TO KEEP THE STANDARDS THE SAME AT NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS.
SO, WE RECOMMEND THAT WE HAD A WALKING PATH AROUND RICOH PATH FIELD AND A RESTROOM AND A WATER FOUNTAIN AND A LARGER PAVILION.
THOSE SERVICES PRESENTLY EXIST IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS.
SUCH AS EGAN'S CREEK PARK AND SIMMONS ROAD PARK.
IT WAS ALSO PROPOSED THAT THE MASTER PLAN PRESENTLY THAT THE MLK CENTER BE USED AS A SENIOR CENTER PRAC WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT REMAIN IN ITS CURRENT USE AND DON'T DUPLICATE SERVICES FOR THE COUNCIL ON AGING.
I LIKE TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE PRAC AND ALSO FOR YOUR FIVE-STAR SUPPORT.
PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES AND SERVICES.
IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK AND PAT YOURSELVES ON THE BACK, OPEN UP YOUR CELL PHONE, GOOGLE YOUR SERVICES AND FACILITIES.
AND AT THAT TIME, LOOK AT WHAT THE OUTSIDE WORLD IS SEEING.
IN FERNANDINA BEACH BUT WE HAVE A VERY DEMANDING COMMUNITY.
SOMETIMES IT CAN GET REALLY ROUGH.
SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, GIVE YOURSELF SOME PERSPECTIVE.
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FIVE-STAR SUPPORT AND ALSO FOR GIVING US A FIVE-STAR PLACE TO LIVE.
AND I AM NOT EVEN RUNNING FOR ELECTION.
[LAUGHTER] >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. B?
>> CHAIR ROSS THANK YOU FOR GIVING YOUR VOLUNTEER SERVICES TO OUR CITY AND MEMBERS OF PARKS AND RECKON THANK YOU ESPECIALLY Â" WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME MORE GOOD STUFF.
I AM IMPRESSED THAT PACKAGE PUT TOGETHER SO PEOPLE COME IN AND ARE ORIENTED AND HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
MOVING FORWARD 215 MASTER PLAN WELL OVERDUE.
WATCHING HER LAST MEETING, ON THE SUBJECT OF THE.
[INDISCERNIBLE] THERE SEEM TO BE, AND THAT WAS FROM MY CHAIR, WATCHING THIS.
CONFUSION AS TO WHAT THE SET OF INSTRUCTIONS YOU WERE TRYING TO FOLLOW FROM THE CITY.
>> THERE WAS AN EMAIL SENT BY THE CITY MANAGER TO MEMBERS OF PRAC ASKING THEM TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE THE COMMON AREA.
I DID NOT RECEIVE THAT EMAIL SO THE BOARD WENT AHEAD AND PROPOSED A MOTION.
THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT THE PLAN HAD CHANGED.
THAT IT WAS, WE DID NOT KNOW WHERE IT WAS GOING TO BE LOCATED.
THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH SOME TREES.
THERE WERE, THERE WAS A BUSINESS PLAN AND THE MONIES FROM THE Â" REVENUES.
THERE WAS NO DESIGNATION OF HOW MUCH WAS GOING TO GO TO THE PERPETUAL CARE FUND AS
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MR. KAUFMAN PUT IN HIS LETTER THERE WERE A LOT OF LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BEING ASKED.WE RECEIVED THE INFORMATION IN JUNE AND IT CHANGED.
THE WHOLE, NOT THE WHOLE, BUT PARTS OF THE PLAN, SIGNIFICANT PARTS OF THE PLAN CHANGE.
SO AS A RESULT, A MOTION WAS MADE TO CONTINUE TRYING TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THESE CONCERNS.
WE HAD LETTERS FROM RESIDENTS WHO WERE ASKING US TO SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN.
BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO ADD OTHER CONCERNS.
SO, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE COMMITTEE DID.
I DID NOT PROPOSE THAT THE MOTION HOWEVER, WE ALL AGREED.
TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT IT AND GIVE IT SOME TIME AND GIVE THE PUBLIC TIME TO REACT.
>> OKAY, SO MY CONCERN IS, VICE MAYOR, YOU INDICATED THAT Â" WAS ON MARCH 2 AGENDA? AND YOU ARE NOT GOING TO MEET BEFORE MARCH 2?
>> SO COORDINATION BETWEEN THIS BODY AND.
[INDISCERNIBLE] AND THE APPEARANCE TO ME IS THAT THE COMMISSION IS GETTING AHEAD OF THE COMMITTEE.
AND WHAT THAT DOES TO THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE ON THOSE COMMITTEES WHEN WE GO AHEAD AND YOUR ADVISOR AND SO WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING ON OUR AGENDA BEFORE YOU ARE EVEN ADVISING US, SO HOW DOES THAT IMPACT ONE OF OUR COMMITTEES? THAT'S THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE.
THE SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE, HOW DO WE BETTER COMMUNICATE WITH PRAC SO THAT CONFUSION OVER YOUR MISSION OR YOUR PURPOSE, OR THE OUTCOME THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR DOESN'T EXIST.
SO THAT IS KIND OF A TWOFOLD COMMENT.
>> THE COMMITTEE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE MOTION WE WERE GOING TO FINISH ANY WORK WE HAD TO DO WITH IT IN THREE MONTHS.
WE DO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING TOMORROW.
SET UP IN THE ATLANTIC REC CENTER TO TAKE SOME TIME TO LOOK AT IT A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY AND ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS WE RECEIVED IN LETTERS AND COMMENTS.
SO I AM ALL FOR MAKING, I AM PERSONALLY ON THE RECORD AS BEING A PERSON WHO SUPPORTS THE Â" IN THE CEMETERY.
I BELIEVE THAT WILL HELP THE CEMETERY NOT ONLY PROVIDE SERVICES BUT IT WILL ALSO HELP IT FINANCIALLY IF WE CAN GET THE FINANCES STRAIGHTENED OUT.
SO, YOU KNOW, SAUL WAS THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION, WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE TO DO, WE ARE TRULY IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY AND PERSONALLY, FROM MY STANDPOINT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE SUCCESSFUL FROM THE GET GO AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> ON TO ITEM 4.3 PRESENTATION FROM BARRY, DUNN, MCNEIL AND PARKER.
[4.3 PRESENTATION - BERRY, DUNN, MCNEIL & PARKER, LLC., (D/B/A BerryDunn)]
AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE REMOTE.I AM JUST LOOKING, DID YOU WANT TO START OFF OR WE CAN JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.
>> I AM STEPHEN BECKMAN PUBLIC Â" FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH PAGES SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
IN 2017 THE LEGISLATURE BASICALLY PROPOSED THAT A LOT OF THINGS, 447 A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS BUT THEY STARTED A, BASICALLY A BUILDING DEPARTMENT OF FUNDS SO WE ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE AVERAGE OF THE PREVIOUS 4 YEARS SO, ONE OF THE THINGS MOST COMMUNITIES HAVE GONE THROUGH AND FERNANDINA BEACH INCLUDED, THE YEARS BEFORE THAT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS WE ACCUMULATED Â" THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITIES WHERE WE RAN OUT THE BUDGETS WE RAN POSITIONS FILLED.
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WE SPENT EVERYTHING IN THE BUDGET BUT OBVIOUSLY WHEN CONSTRUCTION IS HIGH AND NUMBERS ARE COMING IN WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY SO BASICALLY THE LEGISLATURE SAID YOU WILL BE THERE.SO THAT WENT INTO LAW IN 2018.
AND ON DECEMBER 31 OF 2020 BASICALLY WE HAVE THE MOST Â" REPORT ON OUR WEBSITE AND IF WE ARE BRINGING IN MORE THAN WE ARE ALLOWED TO KEEP WE ARE REQUIRED TO EITHER REFUND OR REDUCE THINGS.
SO KNOWING I STARTED WITH THE CITY IN SEPTEMBER 2019.
KNOWING THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAD TO GET A GRASP ON AND FIGURE OUT.
IF WE HAVE TOO MUCH HOW DO WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE? THAT WAS A BIG FACTOR AND DECIDED TO DO A STUDY BECAUSE WE DID NOT KNOW HOW WE WERE WORKING OUT THE FEES.
SO WE ENGAGED BARRY JOHN AND Â" INTERVIEWED THE STAFF AND FEES AND PERMITS AND THAT PUT TOGETHER AND AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO HAND IT OVER TO BARRY DUNN.
MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING BARRY DOWN TO DO THIS PRESENTATION TODAY.
WITH ME I HAVE KEVIN PRICE, KEVIN PRICE ALSO THE LEADER OF OUR TEAM IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PRACTICE AND JESSE.
[INDISCERNIBLE] THE LEAD BUSINESS ANALYST.
WE HAVE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE.
MYSELF AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AT THE CITY MANAGER AND AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY MANAGER AND EVERYONE WHO HELPED GETTING US TO THIS POINT.
SO WITH THAT, OUR AGENDA TODAY, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT BACKGROUND THE FEE STUDY SUMMARY, NEXT STEPS, QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS.
SO Â" 2020 THE CITY CONTACTED BARRY DUNN TO ASSIST WITH UPDATING THE FEES FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IN NOVEMBER 2020 A FEE STUDY WAS COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED TO THE CITY.
WE HAD SOME REVIEWS, SOME BACK AND FORTH WE CAME UP WITH A FINAL FEE STUDY THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN THE PRESENTATION THAT HAS, AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON TAXES VERSUS FEES I WANT TO MENTION THAT TAXES, PROPERTY TAX, SALES TAX, TYPICALLY THOSE BENEFIT CITYWIDE TYPE SERVICES AND THE FEES, THE FEES ARE SPECIFIC TO SERVICE AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE PROVIDING A BUILDING SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S A DIRECT LINKAGE BETWEEN THE FEES AND USING THOSE FEES AND REVIEWING AND INSPECTING PROJECTS.
SO, A SUMMARY OF FINDINGS, WE WENT THROUGH AND WE CAME UP WITH SOME FINDINGS AS WE INTERVIEWED Â" THE CITY.
THE BIGGEST ONE IS THE CURRENT COST RECOVERY FOR CONSTRUCTION PERMITS.
THAT HAS COME OUT TO APPROXIMATELY 92 PERCENT, 91.6 PERCENT SO THE COST IS ONE THAT IS FULLY BURDENED WHICH MIGHT MAKE IT LOWER-THAN-EXPECTED BUT COST, PRODUCTIVE LINE, INCLUSIVELY.
SO BASICALLY WHAT IT SAY, FOR EVERY DOLLAR YOU ARE BRINGING INCOME YOUR SPENDING 91.6 CENTS ON COST TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.
THE NEXT ITEM THERE IS DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDED COST RECOVERY AND CONSTRUCTION PERMIT RATES BASED ON LOCAL POLICY POSITIONS.
THE EXAMPLE I ALWAYS GIVE, IF THE COSTS COME WITH A COST YOU $1000 TO REVIEW A WATER HEATER PERMIT, WE KNOW IF YOU GOT TO A HOME DEPOT THE WATER HEATER PERMIT MAY NOT BE THAT MUCH SO YOU HAVE A COMPLIANCE ISSUE PEOPLE WILL PUT IT IN A NOT PULL
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THE PERMIT AND JUST SAY THAT THE PERMIT IS TOO HIGH, THE FEE IS TOO HIGH I AM NOT GOING TO PULL A PERMIT FOR THAT ITEM SO WHAT WE HAVE IS A LOCAL POLICY POSITION THAT IF YOU NEED TO HAVE AN ARTIFICIALLY LOW FEE OR A PERMIT TO GAIN COMPLIANCE WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU LOOK AT THAT FROM A LOCAL POLICY PERSPECTIVE.SUMMARY OF FINDINGS NUMBER THREE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH FINANCE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH Â" TO COME UP WITH A RATE OF ANY $2.85 Â" $82.85 THAT WOULD BE THE RATE FOR STAFF WORKING ON PROJECTS AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW THAT FITS IN NATIONAL TYPE STANDARDS FROM RURAL AREAS TO METROPOLITAN AREAS, THE RAGE WE HAVE SEEN IS BETWEEN $75 AN HOUR $250 AN HOUR AND METROPOLITAN AREAS.
82.85 PER HOUR IS RIGHT THERE.
YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.
ATTAINABLE HOURS, Â" ASSIGNABLE HOURS ONE FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT WE TALKED ABOUT TYPICALLY 2080 HOURS.
SO WE TOOK STAFF HOURS 2080 HOURS WE SUBTRACTED OUT PAID TIME OFF, THE HOLIDAYS, TRAINING, ETC. STAFF MEETINGS.
WE CAME UP WITH HOURS OF 1561 HOURS PER EMPLOYEE, PER YEAR.
WE GET TO THE POINT JESSE WILL TALK ABOUT HOURS.
BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE 2080 HOURS THAT'S NOT ALL IS 2080 HOURS TOWARDS DOING THE WORK.
THE DIRECT COST RATE WE CAME UP WITH 25.8 PERCENT AND THIS FALLS WITHIN A NATIONAL RANGE OF 20 TO 30 PERCENT SO YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.
THE FUND RESERVE, STEPHEN DID TALK ABOUT THE FUND RESERVE.
THE DEPARTMENTS AVERAGE COST IS $1.8 MILLION.
AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION TO CONTINUE TO BE ADJUSTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FLORIDA STATE LAW AND ALSO SO THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T CUTTING HERSELF SHORT THAT YOU ARE DOING YOUR CAPITAL PLANS, YOUR STAFF THAT YOU NEED AND MAY BE BUDGETED BUT YOU ARE STILL CONSIDERING THOSE STAFF MEMBERS.
AND ALSO THE CITY ON THE COST MODEL THE CITY SHOULD MAINTAIN THE COST MODEL.
THE SERVICES WE DO PROVIDE WE DO THIS SPREADSHEET AND WE ARE PROVIDING TRAINING FOR YOUR STAFF AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS TO SEE WHAT KIND OF COSTS THAT YOU HAVE MOVING FORWARD AND AGAIN AS WE MENTIONED WE ARE AVAILABLE BY PHONE SO WHEN ONE OF YOUR STAFF MEMBERS HAS A QUESTION.
THE FEE STUDY SUMMARY I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO JESSE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
>> THANKS FRIEND, HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TO PRESENT THE FINDINGS.
WHAT I WILL DO IN THIS SEGMENT IS WALK-THROUGH AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, THE MAJOR SEGMENTS OF THE COST MODEL THAT WE CONSTRUCTED TO ARRIVE AT ALL OF THE FINDINGS THAT FRED JUST ALLUDED TO.
WE WILL GO AT A HIGHER LEVEL TO GIVE YOU A SENSE KEEPING IN MIND THESE GO INTO GREAT DETAIL WITH THE MODEL AND IT DID TAKE MANY MONTHS OF WORK TO ARRIVE AT THE NUMBERS WE DID AND I WANT TO Â" ALL OF THE STAFF TIME THAT WAS INVOLVED ON THE CITY SIDE WITH QUESTIONS AND GIVING US INFORMATION, SO THANK YOU.
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE IS WHERE WE TYPICALLY START WITH THE FOUNDATION FOR BUILDING A FEE MODEL OR A COST MODEL AND ASKED LOOKING AT REVENUES AND EXPENSES AS THEY ARE REPORTED IN ACTUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OR BUDGETED, ADOPTED BUDGETS WE HAVE REPORTED REVENUE OF 1.658 MILLION AND ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE WE HAVE ALMOST 1.7 MILLION THAT'S A $50,000 DIFFERENCE HERE AND IF WE WERE TAKING THIS AT
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FACE VALUE, WE WOULD HAVE CLOSE TO 100 PERCENT COST RECOVERY IF NOT THE 91.6 THAT FRED ALLUDED TO SO WE WILL WORK TOWARDS HOW WE ARRIVED AT THAT NUMBER IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN 100 PERCENT.THE NEXT BIG SEGMENT IS THE INDIRECT COST RATE ANALYSIS AND THROUGH THIS ANALYSIS WE PRODUCE AN INDIRECT COST RATE PROPOSAL WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE ANALYSIS.
AT THE TOP YOU CAN SEE THE 25.8 PERCENT AND THAT NUMBER THAT FRED ALLUDED TO BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NATIONAL RATE THAT WE SEE OF 20 TO 30 PERCENT AND THIS IS THE ACTIVITY IN THE EXERCISE THAT ALLOWS US TO ASSIGN ALL OF THE INTERNAL Â" ETERNAL SUPPORT FUNCTIONS NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENT OF PROVIDING THE SERVICE THAT DOES WE WANT TO CAPTURE THE APPLICABLE REASONABLE APPLICABLE AMOUNT OF EXPENSES AND ASSIGNED THOSE TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WITHOUT THIS INTERNAL SUPPORT THEY COULD NOT DELIVER THE SERVICES WERE PAID A DIRECT LEVEL SO WE DO THIS AND WE SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN ADDED EXPENSE AND THAT GETS US DOWN TO 91.6 PERCENT COST RECOVERY BY DOING THIS ANALYSIS AND WE WILL SEE HOW THAT APPLIES IN A LITTLE BIT AND SOME Â" TAKING THE INDIRECT COST RATE ONE STEP FURTHER AND WE LOOK AT THE DIRECT STAFF INVOLVED IN PROVIDING FEE RELATED SERVICES SO THESE ARE THE BUILDING STAFF IN AGGREGATE THAT ARE NECESSARY TO DELIVER THE SERVICES AND PROVIDE THE OPERATIONS AND THE SERVICES THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DOES.
WE LOOK AT THE ASSIGNABLE HOURS ON THE RIGHT AGAIN AS FRED ALLUDED TO IN THE FINDINGS.
THIS IS HOW WE GET OUR START AND HOW WE SUBTRACT DOWN HOLIDAYS AND PTO IN ARRIVE AT THAT 1500 AND ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE YOU WILL SEE THE HOURLY RATE, THE 8285 AND THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF THE INDIRECT COST RATE I JUST WENT OVER WITH YOU AND THAT ALLOWS US TO ASSIGN THE INTERNAL COST SENATE Â" THE FULL COST OF THE 1.8 MILLION YOU SEE AT THE TOP WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE 1.7 OR SO WE STARTED WITH ON THE FIRST LIVE SO THAT ALLOWS US TO REASONABLY APPLY SOME OF THOSE COSTS BECAUSE YOU SHOULD BE CONSIDERING SOME OF THOSE COSTS AND ANY COST RECOVERY DIRECTION YOU WOULD WANT TO GO IN.
AND FINALLY, AFTER CRUNCHING ALL THE REVENUES AND THE EXPENSES AND THE STAFFING THAT INFORMATION WE WANT TO TAKE THAT FULL COST AGAIN AND APPLY IT TO THE PROGRAMS AND THE SERVICES THAT THE BUILDING DIVISION OFFERS HERE YOU WILL SEE THAT WE SEGMENTED THE SERVICES INTO THREE CATEGORIES WHICH IS VERY TYPICAL OF BUILDING DIVISIONS THAT WE WORK WITH.
WE HAD FLAT FEES WE HAD SOME BUILDING VARIABLE FEES AND EVALUATION BASED CONSTRUCTION PERMITS, WHICH IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PERMITS THAT ARE ACHIEVED AND THE SERVICES THE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU THE SEGMENT AND THE SNAPSHOT OF THE PERMIT TYPES AND YOU CAN SEE THE ANNUAL EVALUATION OF THOSE PERMITS WHICH DRIVES THE FEES THAT ARE COLLECTED BY THE DEPARTMENT AND WE TAKE THAT FULL COST AND ASSIGN THE COST PER THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THIS IS JUST A FUNCTION WITHIN THE MODEL THESE ELEMENTS AND DETAILS WILL ALLOW STAFF TO ADJUST THESE NUMBERS AND SCENARIOS AND SEE HOW THESE WOULD CHANGE BASED ON ANY DIRECTION AS FAR AS FEE CHANGES THE DEPARTMENT OR CITY WOULD WANT TO GO AND HONOR INCREASE SIDE OR DECREASE SIDE SO FUNCTIONS IN BOTH WAYS.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE USE ALL OF THE MAJOR Â" TO ROLL UP INTO THE SUMMARY OF FINDINGS AND HERE WE CAN SEE THE 91.6 COST RECOVERY PERCENT THAT FRED STARTED OFF WITH THAT WE COULD SEE THE FULL COST OF THE 1.8 MILLION WHICH IS INCLUSIVE OF THE INDIRECT APPLICABLE COSTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THROUGHOUT THE COST Â" COURSE OF THE STUDY.
IN THE REVENUE AT 1.58 MILLION AND THE SIMPLE CALCULATION GETS US THE 91.6 PERCENT.
>> SO THE NEXT STEPS AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ARE TO SIGN UP A TIME WITH YOUR STAFF THE MODEL AND IT HAS ALL THE PERMITS AND PERMIT TYPES LISTED OUT AND MULTIPLE TABS FOR AND DIRECTS AND ASSIGNABLE HOURS SO WE WILL MEET YOUR STAFF
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AND DO A TRAINING AND BASED ON LOCAL NEEDS, THEY CAN RUN SCENARIOS OF FEES BASED ON WHAT WORKS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND SO WE ARE PLANNING ON HAVING THAT TRAINING THIS MONTH AND AGAIN WE ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP STAFF OUT NOT JUST BEYOND THIS MONTH BUT IN THE FUTURE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WHERE THEY HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE MODELS.SO WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST PAUSE AND GO OVER ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS.
SUBMIT COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION?
ONE THING JUMPED OUT AT ME LOOKING AT THIS.
WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN AVERAGE OF Â" YEARS AND RESERVES IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE CURRENTLY 1.2 MILLION ABOVE THAT LEVEL.
WHAT BASED ON SLIDE NUMBER SEVEN I BELIEVE IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT.
WE ARE HIGHER THAN THAT ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAVE $1 MILLION AND SOME CHANGE AND WHAT IS OUR CURRENT PLAN? WHAT IS THE CURRENT PLAN TO DO WITH THAT MONEY BECAUSE WE CAN'T KEEP IT WITH THIS ACCOUNT BECAUSE OF STATE LAW.
SO THAT REQUIRES THAT WE REDUCE FEES.
AND VERY LITTLE GUIDANCE AND HERE'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO SO YOU HAVE TO HANDLE IT A CERTAIN WAY.
AND YOU CAN ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT IN RESERVE AND ANYTHING IN EXCESS OF THAT YOU HAVE TO Â" FEES.
AND A LOT OF REFUNDING THAT GETS TO BE VERY DIFFICULT.
HOW DO YOU GO BACK AND REFUND AND MOST JURISDICTIONS APPROACH THIS WITH THE REDUCTION.
AND THEY SAY WANT TO GET RID OF IT ALL IN A YEAR.
AND THEY DON'T DEFINE HOW Â" THERE ARE SOME JURISDICTIONS.
THERE ARE SOME THAT SAY IN YOUR FEES CHANGE EACH YEAR.
[INDISCERNIBLE] TO WHERE WE CAN BE COLLECTING A LOT LESS.
SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN PLAY AROUND WITH WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
>> THIS TYPE AT 30 PERCENT, HOW THAT WILL AFFECT OUR NUMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THIS GIVES US A TOOL THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US TO DO WHAT IF SCENARIOS AND THINGS LIKE CERTAIN SMALL PERMITS LIKE YOU MENTIONED, A WATER HEATER OR A SHED OR SOMETHING SMALL WE CAN ADJUST THOSE DOWN AND IF WE NEED TO DO MORE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER HOW TO GO ABOUT IT.
AND WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE THE QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE DO NOW AND HOW DO WE HANDLE THE NEXT YEAR MOVING FORWARD AND ADJUSTING THE FEES?
I SAW BASED OFF OF THE FEES RIGHT NOW, IT WENT FROM SOMEWHERE IN THE $70 AN HOUR TO 150 IN METROPOLITAN AREAS.
I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO SET RECORDS IT COULD BE THE LOWEST.
THAT WOULD BE MY GOAL IF WE COULD GET THERE AND I HAD TO FIGURE OUT AS A COMMISSION, IS THERE A PATH FORWARD BECAUSE THERE'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THIS ACCOUNT AND
I DON'T BELIEVE Â" >> I AGREE 100 PERCENT IT'S GREAT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE
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OFFER THE BEST VALUE AND I WANT TO SAY CAREFULLY ABOUT BEING THE LOWEST BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WITH LOWER FEES AND LOWER SERVICES THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE IN THE DEPARTMENT, FIRST OF ALL RIGHT NOW WE ARE NEXT DAY SERVICE.A LOT OF TIMES SHE CAN CALL US AND WE CAN DO SAME-DAY SERVICE.
AND YOU STILL HAVE OPEN POSITIONS THAT NEED TO FILL TO IMPROVE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING A LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THE RESIDENCE OF THE CONTRACTORS WANT TO BECAUSE THAT BUILDING DEPARTMENT BE QUICK WITH REVIEW BE QUICK WITH INSPECTIONS AND EFFICIENT WITH SYSTEMS AND SAVES EVERYONE A LOT OF MONEY IN ONE EXAMPLE WE TALKED ABOUT OUR SOFTWARE SYSTEM AND WE CAN GET IT TO WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE THERE IS EFFICIENCY IS THERE THE SAFE PEOPLE A TON OF MONEY IN A TON OF TIME AND WE HAVE TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY HAVING A SYSTEM WHERE YOU CAN Â" ELECTRONICALLY AND DO OUR THING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF AND THERE ARE SOME SERVICES THAT WE DON'T OFFER YET BUT WE HOPE TO SOON, THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEM AND AGAIN WE HAVE TO HAVE MONEY TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF AND THOSE CONSIDERATIONS YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PROVIDING
THE SERVICE PEOPLE WANT >> ABSOLUTELY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM READING THAT NUMBER CORRECTLY.
IF WE STOPPED COLLECTING MONEY TODAY IF WE TOOK NO MORE MONEY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO RUN WITH THE CURRENT MONEY THAT WE HAVE, WE WOULD RUN AT THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS, IS THAT RIGHT? WE WOULD JUST RUN AT THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE.
>> THAT'S ONLY QUESTION I HAVE.
THIS IS KIND OF IN MY WHEELHOUSE SO BRADLEY, LIKE WHAT STEPHEN SAID, THINGS TO VARY AND PEOPLE ARE PULLING BACK FINANCIALLY AND CONSTRUCTION PERMITS LIKE WE ARE HAVING CURRENTLY AND TWO THINGS THAT, MY MIND ARE THIS IS A COMPLEX SYSTEM ABOUT RETURNING THE MONEY WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN YET.
WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL PLAN SO THAT IS THE FIRST THING I WOULD WANT TO SEE US COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR HOW TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM.
AND I DON'T SEE IT AS A BAD PROBLEM AND SECONDLY IF THERE ARE POSITIONS TO BE FILLED THAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST THING I WOULD SAY THE FIRST THING WOULD BE TO FILL THE POSITIONS TO MAKE OUR SYSTEM AND OUR BUILDING PERMIT MORE THOROUGH AND FINE NOW AS AN EXPERIENCED CONTRACTOR, SOMETIMES I HAVE TO WAIT FOR AN ELECTRICAL INSPECTION BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN DO AN ELECTRICAL INSPECTION.
THAT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU COULD BE AT AVA, YOU COULD BE BUSY, YOU COULD BE REVIEWING PLANS.
THAT'S ONE THING THAT I SEE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO HIRE SOMEONE THAT CAN HANDLE SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT TRADES AND THEN MAYBE A PLANNING PHYSICIAN AND IF ANYTHING WHAT I SEE IS THE WEAKEST LINK IN OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS THE TIME IT TAKES TO GO THROUGH PERMITTING Â" JUST A STATISTICAL NIGHTMARE ANYWAY.
THUS THE HARDEST PART OF EVERYTHING AND SO THOSE ARE MY POINTS AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A BOARD BUT SOMEHOW WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN ON WHAT'S APPROPRIATE BUT I KNOW IT'S A NIGHTMARE TO RETURN MONEY FROM PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE OF BEING WITH THIS BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND I HAVE A REFUND CHECK AND I KNOW THAT WAS A HARD TIME FOR THEM BECAUSE I HAVE TALKED TO MANY PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT.
>> WE DO HAVE A PLAN WE ARE REDUCING FEES RIGHT NOW.
WE PLAN TO REDUCE FEES BUT YOU ARE ALSO LAID OUT PLANS HOW WE GO ABOUT OR WHAT HAVE YOU BECAUSE THE CONCERN IS NO FEES FOR A YEAR NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IF PERMITTING
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DROPS OFF OR CHANGES AND YOU CAN'T SUPPORT YOUR BUDGET.IT'S LIKE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN'T DO STUFF WE CAN'T KEEP AN WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT TO STAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE IN THE SECOND THING IS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO EVERYBODY YOU NOW AND I GET NO APPLICATIONS IN A YEAR AND AND A HALF I HAVE NOT HAD A SINGLE Â" AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE QUALIFICATIONS.
THEY CAN'T GET LICENSES AND THAT'S A PROBLEM EVERYWHERE.
WE HAVE TAKEN TO Â" A YOUNG MAN FROM Â" AND QUALIFIED FOR LICENSURE AND SO SOON WE WILL HAVE A Â" WILL BE LICENSED OVER 100 FOR EXAMPLE AND ALSO ADD CERTIFICATIONS FOR PEOPLE AND THAT IS A STRUGGLE SO THE THIRD THING.
I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH THE COMMISSION'S HELP.
HOW CAN WE LOWER CERTAIN COSTS.
THE LAST THING YOU WANT, YOUR SHED, YOUR WATER HEATERS, KEEP IN MIND WE COULD DO THAT FOR A WHILE AND REDUCE THE Â" AND GET RID OF OUR SURPLUS AND SOMETIMES WE WOULD START RAISING OTHER FEES AND IF WE KEEP WORKING AT 50 PERCENT OR 40 PERCENT OR 60 PERCENT I THINK THAT WILL TAKE TIME.
>> THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THEY CAN HELP US WITH IF WE COME UP WITH THIS PLAN FURTHER OUT.
WHAT CAN WE REDUCE IT BY AND STILL HAVE A RECOVERY RATE AND WHERE IS THE ALLOWABLE PERCENTAGES AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO TASK THE COMPANY TO DO.
[INDISCERNIBLE] THE ACTUAL SPREADSHEET, IT'S NEAT HOW YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND USE THIS TOOL.
BUT DEFINITELY IT'S A GREAT RESOURCE FOR US DOWN THAT ROAD.
>> IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS SIGNIFICANTLY STAFFED UP WITH EQUIPMENT AND UPGRADED SO IT TAKES A PART OF THAT AND A LEVEL OF SERVICE IF IT'S BY OUR PEOPLE OR OUTSOURCING AND ADJUST FEES APPROPRIATELY BECAUSE I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.
[INDISCERNIBLE] TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE LINE AND IF WE COULD ELIMINATE SOME OF THOSE.
[INDISCERNIBLE] FOR A SHED OR EASY THINGS.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
YOU ARE CONSIDERING THAT SO YOU HAVE THESE TRUCKS OUT THERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO LAST HOW LONG?
>> SO OUR CAPITAL PLAN ADDRESSES PLACEMENT OF THE VEHICLES AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO REPLACE OR UPGRADE YOUR HARDWARE AND.
[INDISCERNIBLE] ELECTRONIC AND ENTER THINGS OUT THERE AND.
[INDISCERNIBLE] THEY CAN CHECK AND >> THEY WILL BE MAINTAINED AND REPLACED PERIODICALLY AND PART OF WHAT YOU SAID IS TRUE, WE DID JUST BUY SOME NEW TRUCKS BECAUSE WE ARE IN POSITIONS.
I HAD 2 OF THOSE POSITIONS FILLED AND THEY ENDED UP GETTING SOMETHING ELSE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WITH THOSE.
[INDISCERNIBLE] POSITIONS AND SO FOR RIGHT NOW WE JUST SITUATED OURSELVES PRETTY WELL WITH THE MONEY FROM LAST YEAR AND LAST YEAR IT WAS A LOT HIGHER AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THINGS THAT WE HAVE NEEDED FOR A WHILE.
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
>> ONE MORE, I KNOW IT'S EXTREMELY HARD, EVERYONE IS HAVING A HARD TIME WITH LABOR RIGHT NOW.
BUT ARE POSITIONS CORRECTLY, SALARY IS THE FUNDING FOR THE VACANT POSITIONS THAT WE
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HAVE, ARE THEY CORRECT IN YOUR OPINION OR DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HIRING GREAT INSPECTORS AND GREAT EXAMINERS IF WE CAN FIND ONE.CERTIFICATE WAS TOUGH INDUSTRYWIDE AND IT WAS THE SAME WHERE TIMES LIKE THIS WHERE THE MARKETS ON FIRE YOU MAKE A LITTLE MORE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WORKING THE HOURS YOU WANT PEOPLE TEND TO GO THAT WAY AND I THINK THE SALARY THAT YOU PAYS PRETTY GOOD SALARIES.
BUT IT'S NOT THAT THE SALARIES ARE LOW BUT RIGHT NOW AS A GOVERNMENT PERSON IT'S BASED ON 40 HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND HE WILL WORK SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS AND IF YOU DO YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE DAYS AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, THEY WORK 10 TO 12 HOUR HOUR DAYS THEY WORK SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS AND HOW THEY WANT TO DO IT, I HAVE TO STEP BACK FROM HIGH PACE WORK LIKE CRAZY CONTRACTOR 40 OR 50 HOURS A WEEK SOMETHING RIGHT FOR ME AND I THINK SALARY WISE I LOOK AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND I THINK YOU DO PRETTY GOOD AND RIGHT NOW IS JUST TOUGH THERE'S BENEFITS FOR LOCAL JURISDICTION AND.
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> I JUST HAVE A QUICK, TO ABOUT SALARIES THINGS LIKE SIGNING BONUSES CONTRACTORS AND STUFF AND.
[INDISCERNIBLE] YOU CAN HAVE A BONUS POLICY BUT EVERY SINGLE Â" LIKE A SIGNING BONUS MIGHT BE ATTRACTIVE.
>> SOME THINGS I KNOW WE ARE DOING N, RIGHT NOW WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON TRAINING AND WE TRAIN AND WE ARE PROVIDING A VERY GOOD SERVICE AND THAT HELPS US
AND IT HELPS RESIDENTS DO STUFF LIKE THAT AND >> CITY MANAGER.
FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION LATER ON ON THE AGENDA IS THE PAID CLASSIFICATION PLAN IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT WE PAY THESE PEOPLES IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET UNDER DIFFERENT ITEM IT TELLS YOU WHAT THE PAYGRADE IS.
THEY TELL YOU WHAT THE RANGES AND I BELIEVE IT MIGHT BE A PLAN FOR YOU IT'S NOT THE MOST SENIOR IS NOT A BUILDING OFFICIAL BUT I BELIEVE IT'S UP TO $90,000 AND ALL THE INFORMATION IS IN YOUR PACKET IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT FEEL FREE TO LOOK THAT OVER OR ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION.
I WILL SPEAK WITH STEVE LATER ABOUT IT.
NOT HEARING ANY MORE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US AND FOR THIS INFORMATION.
>> AGENDA ITEM 4.4 BUDGET SUMMARY.
[4.4 BUDGET SUMMARY ]
[INDISCERNIBLE] CITY COMPTROLLER.
JANUARY IS THE FOURTH MONTH THAT REPRESENTS 33.3 PERCENT OF THE BUDGETED SCHOOL YEAR.
FOR THE GENERAL FUND YOUR DATE REVENUES OF 68.3 PERCENT OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
THIS IS DUE PRIMARILY TO PROPERTY TAX AND LOCAL BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS.
OVERALL YOUR TODAY GENERAL FUND EXPENSES ARE BELOW THE 33.3 PERCENT MARKET 25.7
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PERCENT.HOWEVER, SOME DEPARTMENTS ARE OVER THIS MARK DUE TO PAYMENTS OF ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE CONTRACT SPREAD THE FUND TRANSFERS FOR THE MONTH HAVE BEEN COMPLETE.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND CONFERENCES HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR STREET STRIPING, ROOF ON BUILDING C, WINDOW PROJECT AND THE MLK KIDDIE POOL FEATURE.
YOU WILL ALSO NOTICE FOR THE CAPITAL EXPANSION FUND THERE IS AN EXTRA SCHEDULE THAT SHOWS THE BALANCE BY SOURCE FOR THE COLLECTED IMPACT FEES.
WE DID RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM INDIGO GOLF IT WAS LATE BUT THE CITY MANAGER WAS ABLE TO UPLOAD THE MONTHLY BUDGET REPORT WHICH DID INCLUDE INDIGO THE INFORMATION FROM INDIGO GOLF THIS IS THE LAST MONTHLY REPORT FROM THEM FOR THE COMPLETE MONTH.
AIRPORT REVENUES EXCEEDED EXPENSES DUE TO THE FAA GRANT REVENUE.
WHILE UTILITY FUND REVENUES EXCEEDED EXPENSES AND THE STORMWATER PHONE COMPLETED THE PURCHASE OF Â" AND THE MARINA CONTINUES TO WORK ON REPAIRING THE FUEL LINES.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I JUST HAD ONE THE MONTHLY REPORT ON REVENUE.
AND IN THE CATEGORY OF OTHER, WE ARE 21.4 PERCENT BELOW THE BUDGET.
WE HAVE THE INTEREST AND MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE AND SOME OF THAT IS NOT WHERE WE HAD BUDGETED.
IT IS BELOW BUDGET BUT I CAN GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN OF THE EXACT ITEMS IF YOU WOULD
LIKE FOR ME TO PRAY >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT NOW BUT THAT'S A GOOD EXPLANATION.
I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT IT AND THE OTHER ACCOUNT WAS TO CHARGE FOR SERVICES 25 PERCENT SUMMA THAT INCLUDES PARKS AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES.
>> IS THAT COVID RELATED THAT THE REVENUES ARE DOWN?
>> YES IT COULD BE COVID RELATED I CAN GIVE YOU A FURTHER EXPLANATION BY LINE ITEM.
[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]
PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.FOR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I HAVE 2 REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 5.
OTHER REQUESTS LATER I WILL REMIND THE SPEAKERS TO STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND THEY ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
>> CAN YOU HANG ON FOR A SECOND?
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO COMMISSION TO PROVIDE YOU WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A TIMELINE.
I SIT ON THE PARKS AND RECORD ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS VICE CHAIR PRAYED I WOULD LIKE YOU TO BE AWARE BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT CHAIRMAN ROSS SAID OF THE ACTUAL TIMELINE THIS COMMITTEE HAS HAD TO WORK WITH THIS PROJECT IT WAS FIRST PRESENTED TO US AT OUR AUGUST MEETING.
THE ARCHITECTS CAME IN AND PRESENTED THE PROJECT.
WE HAD BEEN GUIDED THE SAID THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS BEING INITIATED NOT JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS A COMMUNITY NEED BUT ALSO BECAUSE THERE WAS A NEED TO FIND A WAY TO FUND FUTURE MAINTENANCE COSTS AT THE CEMETERY.
THE CITY IS SPENDING APPROXIMATELY HUNDRED $40,000 A YEAR OUT OF YOUR GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT THIS SO THE CHARGE IS, HOW DO WE REVENUE THIS AND THIS IS A GOOD SOLUTION AND A PROPER SOLUTION NOT JUST ON NEED BUT A WAY TO FUND THE PROJECT.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION IN AUGUST.
A MARKETING PLAN, HOW DO WE KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO FUND IT? THERE ARE ONLY $85,000 OF IMPACT FEE MONEY FROM PARKS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO WE ARE WE GETTING THE MONEY TO BUILD $287,000 PROJECTS, WHAT DO WE DO? SO BEFORE WE COME TO THIS COMMISSION AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE PLAN? WOULD YOUR BUSINESS PLAN? WHAT YOUR MARKETING PLAN?
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WE CONTINUE TO ASK FOR THE PLAN.I KNOW STAFF IS BUSY AND THEY ARE WORKING WITH LOTS OF INPUT.
AND IN FEBRUARY WE GOT A BUSINESS PLAN ALONG WITH A MODIFIED ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN PLAN.
A WEEK BEFORE THE COMMITTEE MEETING ON FEBRUARY 2.
THE PLAN HAS GONE FROM 180 LEASHES TO 420 NICHE IS AND THAT SINCE PHASE 3 AND PHASE 1 WERE SWAPPED.
WE ARE GETTING THIS INFORMATION A WEEK BEFORE OUR MEETING AND JUST LIKE YOU WE CAN'T TALK OUTSIDE OF OUR MEETINGS SO WE GET TO THE MEETING AND ASKING US TO VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION PLANS DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE SINCE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS PROJECT IS, AND WHERE IT IS BEING BUILT SO RATHER THAN WAIT UNTIL MARCH UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, IT WAS SUGGESTED TO GET A SUBCOMMITTEE SO WE COULD GET TOGETHER AND BRING IN THE RELEVANT PARTIES AND FIGURE IT OUT MOVE IT ALONG BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO JUST WAIT AND I MADE A MOTION TO DO THAT BECAUSE I FELT IT WAS PRUDENT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PLAN WAS IN THE PLAN WAS UPDATED IN DECEMBER BUT I UNDERSTAND THE STAFF IS PROBABLY WORKING WITH THE OTHER COMMITTEES.
[INDISCERNIBLE] STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
>> MY NAME IS JACK 2809 OCEANVIEW COURT.
[INDISCERNIBLE] FERNANDINA BEACH GREAT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DO.
I REPRESENT HUNDREDS OF OUR LOCAL CITIZENS WHO ARE ACTIVE IN OUR GROUP AT FERNANDINA BEACH.
AND I WOULD INVITE EACH OF YOU AS A CITY MANAGER TO WORK MORE CLOSELY WITH THE VOLUNTEER CITIZENS BUT WE HAVE VERY SMART AND EXPERIENCED BUSINESS PEOPLE WHO CAN WORK SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH THE CITY TO DELIVER FANTASTIC RESULTS THAT WE CAN ALL SUPPORT IN MY THREE MINUTES I WILL ADDRESS SOME QUESTIONS ON ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN POPULAR IN THE CITY.
I AM CURIOUS AS TO WHY THE CITY WOULD HIRE BACK A LEADER OF THE COMPANY THAT IT FIRED MANAGING THE GOLF COURSE.
I AM REALLY FLABBERGASTED BY THAT AND MANY OF OUR MEMBERS ARE AS WELL.
THE TOP TRACER IS A BAR WE BUILT WITHOUT A BATHROOM.
I'M SURPRISED BY THAT AS WELL AND I AM WONDERING WAS THAT A DESIGN THAT WAS APPROVED WITH THE COMMISSION, I AM CURIOUS WHEN IT IS TO OPEN I THOUGHT IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR LATE LAST YEAR.
I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT WHEN IS GOING TO OPEN.
HAS ANYONE LOOKED AT THE GOLF NETTING BY THE DRIVING RANGE BECAUSE THE NEW DRIVING RANGE WILL BE OUT TO THE SIDE AND IT DOESN'T COVER THE BALLS THAT WILL GO AWAY INTO THE MARSH AND THE GARAGE DOOR DAYS, REINFORCEMENT, REWIRING OF ELECTRICAL OUTLETS ARE A LOT OF THINGS INCLUDING THE CUSTOMER SERVICE Â" THERE IS NO WORD FOR SOMEONE TO GET IN THERE.
WATERFRONT IS ANOTHER ISSUE I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, DON'T MAKE A DECISION TO SPEND $1 MILLION ON THE WATERFRONT FIRST STEP RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE SPENDING THE MONEY BUILDING A DRIVEWAY AND WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY OR PLAN TO BUILD THE ENTIRE HOUSE.
I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST PRIORITIES IN THE PLAN.
IT'S NOT THE BIGGEST THING WE HAVE ALREADY GOT IT AT THIS CENTRAL PARK I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT'S THERE.
IF YOU WALK THROUGH THE WATERFRONT THERE IS SO MUCH, NOT JUST CITY PROPERTY BUT THE OTHER PERSON PROPERTY, IS JUST HORRENDOUS THE WAY THAT IS SO I AM LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION THAT WILL SOLVE SOMETHING NOT JUST BUILD A PARK AND I DON'T WANT TO PARK THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE ST. MARY'S I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE PEOPLE COME TO ME IN THE LAST WEEK SAYING ST. MARY'S IS DEAD.
WE BUILT A PARK THERE IS NOTHING THERE.
THE CITY TRASH ACCORDING TO CITIZENS, REACHING OUT TO ME THEY SAID THE TRASH COLLECTION IS HORRIBLE AND A TRUCK THE CITY TRASH TRUCK FLIPPED OVER, CRUSH SOME PEOPLE.
WE HAD A $2 BILLION SETTLEMENT AND $9 MILLION SETTLEMENT.
I AM NOT SURE WE WANT TO GET INTO DRIVING THAT TRUCK.
WE ARE ON TO ITEM 6.1 MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.
[6. CONSENT AGENDA]
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CONSENT.ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING OLD FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, CITY CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE?
ITEM 7.1 THIS IS GOING TO BE A LIGHTNING DISCUSSION I'M GOING TO SUGGEST WE TAKE A
[7.1 SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT - CPH ENGINEERS, INC.]
RECESS.>> I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE LIKELY.
>> I CAN MAKE MY MOTION MAY BE REAL QUICK.
>> WE SENT A MESSAGE BACK TO THE ENGINEERS TO ASK FOR CHANGES TO THE DESIGN PORTION OF THE SETTLEMENT.
WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK ON THE LATEST CHANGES SO THIS MORNING THAT WAS THE LATEST NEWS OF THE LAST COMMISSIONER AND WE MET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY AS WE DO EACH AND EVERY TWO WEEKS COMMISSIONER ROSS WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION.
>> I MOVE TO REJECT THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT AND DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER IN THIS MATTER.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT IT'S EGREGIOUS WHAT THEY OFFERED AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THIS IS FIXED MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW UP.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR CONTINUED DISCUSSION OR PUBLIC,?
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> LET'S OPEN THIS UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE FIRST SPEAKER MR. JOHN COLLINS.
I HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO MEET INDIVIDUALLY WITH EACH OF YOU.
THERE ARE 2 INDEPENDENT REPORTS.
[INDISCERNIBLE] OF FERNANDINA BEACH PRAYED THE CONDITION FOR BOTH WAS THE CAUSE OF FAILURE DUE TO THE Â" PERMITTED SO IT NOW STANDS AS SIX INCHES BELOW EXISTING WATER TABLE SECONDLY THE ENGINEERING FIRMS RECOMMEND A Â" SYSTEM AND YOUR OWN IS $2.04 MILLION THAT'S 2016.
HOW DO WE GET TO THIS POINT WHERE THIS IS PERMITTED BY ST. JOHN'S? CPH HAS MADE CHANGES TO THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS THAT WERE PERMITTED.
IF YOU GO ONTO THEIR WEBSITE THIS IS THE ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT YOU WILL FIND A DOCUMENT OR LETTER FROM DPH DATED 26 2010 SUBJECT PERMIT DETERMINATION FOR THE ALTERATIONS.
REMEMBER CPH CAME IN AFTER THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS AND CPH ADVISE THE DISTRICT THAT THE REQUEST OF THE ENGINEER DESIGN A BETTER LOCK TO PROTECT TREES FROM EXCESSIVE Â" AND PROVIDE BETTER LOT DRAINAGE.
IT SOUNDS PRETTY NOBLE BUT IS IT REALLY NOBLE IN THIS CASE? CPH STATES THEY PREPARED THAT PLAN UPON COMPLETION AND THEY HAVE SIMILARITY TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND MADE THE DETERMINATION THE VARIATIONS WERE MINOR CPH WOULD BE ABLE TO CERTIFY THE PROJECT WAS BUILT WITH SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE TO THE PLANS AND ON MARCH 10, 2006 ST. JOHN'S RESPONSE.
YOU ARE PROPOSING TO ENHANCE THE Â" THESE LOTS WILL NOT CHANGE THE ORIGINAL PERMITTED TRAINING PATTERNS.
THEREFORE YOU WILL NOT BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A PERMIT MODIFICATION.
HOWEVER, PLEASE BE AWARE THE PERMIT DETERMINATION MADE IN THIS LETTER IS BASED ON THE INFORMATION YOU SUBMITTED.
SO WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE ROAD? THERE ARE THREE DOCUMENTS PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED WITH THAT COVER LETTER ONE IS THE ORIGINAL DRAWING.
THIS SHOWS ELEVATION AT GROUND ZERO.
MOST OF THIS PROBLEM IS ELEVATION OF 13.5 FEET.
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CPH DRAWING C2 DATED FEBRUARY 7 DROPPED AT ONE FOOT.THEIR PLAN SHOW 2.5 FEET WHEN IT WAS FINALLY SURVEYED THE SURVEYOR DETERMINE THE ELEVATION IS 2.3 FEET THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF 1.2 FEET FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT THEY SAY IT HAS DROPPED 1.2 FEET FROM WHERE IT WAS FROM HER THIS DEMONSTRATES LOWERING THIS WAS INTENTIONAL.
AND CPH FAILED TO MENTION THAT MINOR CHANGE YOU TALK ABOUT MINOR CHANGES THEY DON'T MENTION THIS.
>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR MR. VICE MAYOR ESTEEMED COMMISSIONERS.
I LIVE AT 646 SPANISH WAY EAST ACROSS FROM MR. COLLINS.
I WANT TO TAKE YOU ON A JOURNEY.
I WANT YOU TO DRIVE WITH ME OVER THIS STREET ATLANTIC AVENUE TAKE A RIGHT ON Â" TAKE A LEFT ON BAILEY TAKE A RIGHT ON PATRIOT.
ALL ALONG HE WILL SEE Â" LIKE THAT PICTURE.
WHAT A GREAT JOB OUR ENGINEERS DO.
BUT WHAT YOU WILL FIND WHEN YOU COME TO THE CORNER OF SPANISH WAY EAST AND PATRIOT IS AN INTERESTING SPOKE OF VERY DARK BROWN COLOR IT BEGINS AT THE SOUTHERN END OF PATRIOT IT EXTENDS WEST ON SPANISH WAY WEST IT'S ALMOST ALL THE WAY ON SPANISH WAY EAST.
PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO SCREW UP THEIR CURBS FOR CURB APPEAL.
MAYBE THEY WANT TO SELL THEIR HOME SOMEDAY.
THEY ARE BASICALLY BROWN BUT THAT IS AN AESTHETIC MANNER.
AS YOU TURN THE CORNER ON PATRIOT AND SPANISH WAY EAST YOU CAN SEE THE DRAIN THAT HAS A LOT OF BROKEN SEGMENTS AND A LOT OF RUSHING WATER IF IT HAS RAIN ANYTIME THE LAST THREE OR FOUR DAYS IT WILL STILL BE RUSHING WATER AND THE PAVEMENT IS BROKEN AS WE GO ALONG THE ROAD WE WILL SEE SMALL POTHOLES LARGE BLACK PATCHES AND WHAT'S THE MOST DISTRESSING OF ALL A BLACK SUBSTANCE THAT LOOKS LIKE SAND THAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY MORE EXPERT INDIVIDUALS THAT IT COULD BE LIMESTONE BECAUSE APPARENTLY IN BUILDING A ROAD, AND I'M NO EXPERT YOU HAVE ASPHALT ON TOP AND UNDERNEATH YOU HAVE A LINE RELATED SUBSTANCE AND UNDER THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME PIPING MADE OF CLAY AND THAT BRINGS ANOTHER POINT IS I DESCRIBED THIS ROAD YOU WILL SEE A SANDY LIMESTONE BUT YOU WILL SEE SOME BROWN SUBSTANCE AND THAT COULD BE THE CLAY PIPING STARTING TO MOVE UP.
SO IT COULD IF THE SEAWATER IS COMING IN AND BUBBLING UP SOMEHOW TO THE PIPING IT COULD HARM OUR TREES AND THE IDEA OF SALTWATER INTRUSION IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN ENGINEERING SO I AM ALWAYS LOOKING UP AT THE CLOUDS.
I COULD CARE LESS WHAT MY STREET LOOKS LIKE BUT MY PROBLEM IS IF UNDERNEATH THE SUBSTANCES ONE THAT WILL CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE TREES, THEN I WILL GET FIGHTING MAD.
I LIVE AT 663 EAST SPANISH WAY EAST I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THE EFFORT TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE.
MY BACKGROUND IS I BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN 2009.
SO WE HAVE LIVED ON SPANISH WAY FOR 12 SOMETHING 13 YEARS.
I BEGAN TO NOTICE A PROBLEM WITH THE WATER DRAINING OFF THE ROAD BACK IN, OH GOSH, 2012, 13, 14.
I TOOK PICTURES AND I SUBMITTED REPORTS JAN WILLIAMSON, RICHARD KANE ALSO CONTRIBUTED SOME REPORTS THAT WE DID AND WE CONTACTED THE CITY AND COUNTY AND WE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WERE
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DESIGN PROBLEMS DRAINAGE WAS NOT PROPERLY DONE SO OKAY.I MET WITH THE ENGINEER AND READY IN 2020 AND BY THE WAY I AM ALSO A CIVIL ENGINEER.
I AM A RETIRED CIVIL ENGINEER FROM THE AVIATION ADMINISTRATION.
DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION FOR 28 YEARS AND I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF EXPERTISE OF GEOTECHNICAL HYDROLOGY WHEN I MET WITH ANDRE HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT MY BACKYARD IS 653 HAS SOME SORT OF LANDSCAPE EASEMENT CALLED OUT ON THE PLAT AND HE ALSO EXPLAINED AT A CERTAIN POINT ALL THE WATER FLOWS TOWARDS SPANISH WAY EAST OR THE OTHER DIRECTION TOWARDS THE PATRIOTS WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION BUT DURING TORRENTIAL RAIN EPISODES MY YARD AND ALL THE ROADS A BACKUP TO MY YARD ARE JUST LIKE IT AND PROBABLY 10 INCHES TO A FOOT OF WATER IS WHAT I GET AND ADJUST STATUS THERE AND BASICALLY THERE IS NO OUTFLOW IT JUST PERCOLATES BACK DOWN TO THE GROUND BUT SOMETIMES IT TAKES A COUPLE OF TWO OR THREE DAYS AND WE HAD 2 REALLY BIG.
>> I LIVE AT 561 SANTA MARIA DRIVE WHICH IS CONSIDERED THE MOST BEAUTIFUL STREET.
BEFORE I START I WANT TO, WE SHOULD NOT JUST BE COMPLAINING.
THE CITY RECENTLY PUTTING 2 STREETLIGHTS AT THE FRONT OF Â" I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM IT WAS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS PLACE AND THE LIGHTS TOTALLY CHANGE THAT AREA I AM JUST GOING TO ADDRESS THE SETTLEMENT.
THE SETTLEMENT IS FOR $80,000 LESS THAN FOUR PERCENT OF THE COST ESTIMATED TO FIX THE SITUATION THE NICEST WAY TO DESCRIBE THIS IS DISAPPOINTING.
MOST RESIDENTS TYPICALLY USE OTHER TERMS TO DESCRIBE IT.
MOST OF THE 80,000 IS AN EVENT DIRECTED TOWARDS NECESSARILY DOING ANYTHING.
50,000 GOES TO THE CITY TO PRESUMABLY SPEND AS THEY WOULD LIKE PERHAPS AS REIMBURSEMENT FOR ITS MANY ENGINEERING STUDIES AND LEGAL FEES 9200 IS FOR WAIVING PAYMENTS FOR WORK DONE ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.
THE CITY IS HIRING USING CPH TO DESIGN ANYTHING WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY SUING THEM FOR NEGLIGENCE MAKES NO SENSE TO THE AVERAGE CITIZEN BUT THAT IS NOT WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE REMAINING 20,800 IS DESIGNATED TO BE RECEIVED AS CPH IN-KIND ENGINEERING SERVICES TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.
IDENTIFYING THE SCOPE OF THE SERVICES IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT 20,800 ISN'T GOING TO GO VERY FAR.
CONCERNED CITIZENS HAVE RECEIVED A DRAFT OF THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE SERVICES.
I BELIEVE IT'S FROM COMMENTS EARLIER I THINK IT IS STILL IN A DRAFT STAGE I DON'T THINK YOU CAN HAVE AN AGREEMENT UNLESS YOU GOT A SCOPE OF AGREEMENT FOR THE IN-KIND SERVICES PER THE DRAFT SCOPE OF WORK ACTUALLY PREPARES PREGNANT Â" PREPARED INITIALLY BY CPH IDENTIFY CPH AS THE CITY'S PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PROJECT.
AND THE CITY HIRES ANOTHER GEOTECHNICAL CONSULTANT AND A BLANK SCHEDULE IS INCLUDED THAT SUGGEST CPH WILL POSSIBLY BE PAID FOR SERVICES BEYOND THE IN-KIND SERVICES COVERED BY THE AGREEMENT.
SERIOUSLY? CPH NOT HAVING FOLLOW STANDARD ENGINEERING PRACTICES IS GOING TO PROVIDE PARTIAL ENGINEERING SERVICES TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM THEY CREATED AND
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PERHAPS CREATE MORE BUSINESS FOR ITSELF IN THE END.THE CONSENSUS IN THE COMMUNITY IS THE CITY IS RUSHING FORWARD RESOLVING AND THEY NEED TO SIT BACK AND WAIT AND MR. COLLINS ADDRESSED TALKING TO THE ST. JOHNS RIVER DISTRICT ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT PERHAPS HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED BEFORE.
JACKMAN SHAW 665 FERNANDINA COURT.
I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE JANUARY 2013.
I HAD THE DUBIOUS DISTINCTION OF BEING THE FIRST PRESIDENT AFTER I WRESTLED THE Â" AWAY FROM THE CEDAR CONSTRUCTION COMPANY SO I HAVE BEEN ON THIS SINCE DAY ONE.
I DID NOT COME HERE TO CASTIGATE YOU FOLKS IN THE CITY AND.
[INDISCERNIBLE] TRACKING GET OUT OF HERE.
[LAUGHTER] WHAT I WANT YOU TO GET A FEELING FOR HOW FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY FEEL.
WHEN THIS STARTED WE WORKED WITH FABULOUS PEOPLE IN THE CITY.
[INDISCERNIBLE] FOR THE PUBLIC.
I'M GOING TO LEAVE THIS WITH YOU.
THIS IS JUST A RECORD OF SOME RESPONDENTS.
IT'S A GOOD BACKGROUND AND SAYS GOOD THINGS ABOUT YOUR CITY BUT OUR RESIDENTS ARE CONFUSED.
WE ARE GOING ON THE SIXTH YEAR OF A PROBLEM THAT IS IMPACTING NOT ONLY THE ROADS BUT IT IS IMPACTING THE TURNOVER OF HOMES THEY HAVE GONE FROM A COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAD NO MORE THAN THREE OR FOUR WEEKS ON Â" TO HAVING THINGS FALL THROUGH AND CLOSING AND I AM HERE TO EXTEND A HAND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THE ENGINEERS.
WE HAVE ALL OF THE RECORDS NOW FOR THE START OF THIS WHOLE THING.
WHAT I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE HISTORY IS THAT THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND I THINK Â" HAS BEEN ON RETAINER BY THE CITY AS A CONSULTANT DID A WONDERFUL JOB OF DESIGNING THE COMMUNITY THE ROADS WERE PUT IN AND WHEN THIS PROBLEM BEGAN THEY HAD TO COME BACK AND TALK TO US WITHIN THE SITUATION TO DETERMINE WHAT WENT WRONG.
HE WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING WITH US BUT WHAT HE DID SAY WAS SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING.
HE SAID THE ROAD WAS INSTALLED AND YOU JUST HEARD THIS A MINUTE AGO.
1.2 FEET UNDER THE 10 YEAR STUDY YOU HAVE TO DO A STUDY ON THE ISLANDS YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR ROADS IN ACCORDING TO A 10 YEAR STUDY.
THE ROAD WAS PUT IN BY WOMACK AND THEY WANTED MCCRANIE TO FINISH IT UP BUT THEY REFUSED TO AND WHO COMES IN? CPH.
I DON'T KNOW THESE GUYS WELL WE HAD SEVERAL CONFRONTATIONS WITH THEM THERE IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING MONEY THEY ACTUALLY DIDN'T TOUCH THE ROADS THEY WORKED ON PIPING AND WE STILL HAVE A PROBLEM ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST SPANISH WAY.
THANK YOU FOR STAYING ON THIS WITH US AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THIS RESOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
>> THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT I HAVE COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION.
QUESTIONS OF THE CITY? WHAT CAN WE RESTATE THE MOTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AND THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT A YES VOTE MEANS?
>> I CAN READ IT BECAUSE I HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN.
I MOVED TO REJECT THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT AT CPH AND DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEYS TO CONTINUE EFFORTS IN RESOLVING THIS MATTER AND GOING TO TRIAL IF NECESSARY.
>> SO IN Â" WITH THE RESIDENTS ONE OF THE CRITICISMS IN THIS NEGOTIATION AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF THEY ARE WRONG OR IF THE INTERPRETATION IS WRONG BUT THE ABSENCE OF THE CONSTRUCTION LITIGATING ATTORNEY TO MEDIATE WITH CPH
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IN OTHER WORDS AN EXPERT IN CONSTRUCTION LAWSUITS SHOULD WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION ATTORNEY THAT IS PART OF THE LEGAL TEAM IN THE MITIGATION MEDIATION PROCESS?WHAT WE HAD WAS ABOUT A MINUTE LEFT IN THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS SO WE HIRED JACOBS AND SCHOLZ AT THE TIME AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE CERTAINLY CONSIDERED THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
THE OTHER IS WE DID NOT HAVE A CITY ENGINEER EITHER.
WE HAD A Â" ENGINEER AND MR. GEORGE HAS JOINED OUR TEAM WITH THE CITY AND HAS REDEEMED SOME OF THIS AND HE IS NOT HERE WERE WORKING FOR THE CITY WHEN WE HAD THE MEDIATION AT HIS DESK YET AND SO WE NEEDED TO THE CITY MANAGER AND I WERE AT THE MEDIATION WITH MR. JACOBS AND WE DID NOT HAVE THE BENEFIT OF OUR CITY ENGINEER SITTING THERE AND THAT IN RETROSPECT WAS NOT WISE AND WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THE EXPERTISE WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST UNDERSTOOD MORE OF THESE TECHNICAL THINGS BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THERE IS A NUMBER ONE AND I THINK AT THIS POINT THE CITY IS A VICTIM IN THIS ALSO CITY DID NOT DESIGN THE ROADS THE CITY DID NOT REVIEW THE PLANS THE CITY IS A VICTIM AS ARE THE TAXPAYERS NOT JUST THOSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKES ME SAD YOU ARE ALL VICTIMS. I AM A VICTIM.
MR. MARTIN IS A VICTIM AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO THIS WE REPRESENT ALL OF THE CITY AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO THINK ABOUT BRINGING A SETTLEMENT TO YOU.
WE RECEIVED A QUOTE FOR WHATEVER IT WOULD COST AND BOTH PUBLICLY AND PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE TIME TO COME HERE WE CAN'T GO TO MEDIATION WITH WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO REBUILD THE ROAD.
THAT DID NOT INCLUDE THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR A DRAINAGE SYSTEM BEFORE WE WERE GETTING BETTER ESTIMATES OF WHAT IT WOULD BE TO INCLUDE A DRAINAGE SYSTEM ARE QUOTAS UNDER $200,000 NOT $2 MILLION.
THE $2 MILLION IF YOU READ THE REPORT THAT INCLUDES RAISING ROADS BRINGING INFILL AND CREATING A DRAINAGE SYSTEM UP AND DOWN SPANISH WAY THE TWO MILLION-DOLLAR FIX FOR MY UNDERSTANDING IS NOT PRACTICAL IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT DESTROYING MUCH OF WHAT YOU CONSIDER YOUR PROPERTY OR YOUR DRIVEWAYS WE WOULD LOSE ALL OF THAT WE WOULD HAVE BIG DITCHES AND IT WOULD BE A PRACTICAL SOLUTION THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM ENGINEERS AND FROM MR. JACOBS TALKING TO ENGINEERS WE HAVE HAD INCLUDING Â" THAT WOULD BE THE IDEAL SOLUTION IS NOT PRACTICAL SO WE NEVER WENT TO MEDIATION WITH THAT TWO MILLION-DOLLAR NUMBER THAT WAS NOT THE NUMBER WE WENT WITH WE WENT WITH A NUMBER WE THOUGHT WOULD CORRECT THE PROBLEM IN TERMS OF TEARING UP SPANISH WAY EAST AND WEST AND THE INTERSECTION AND PATRIOTS WAY AND THEN HAVING MEETING SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE WITH WHAT THE COST WOULD BE TO DESIGN AND REBUILD THAT TO A POINT THAT IF WE KNEW IN ABOUT 10 TO 15 YEARS IT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE AGAIN IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT WE WILL NEVER RECOVER THOSE COSTS IF WE END UP TAKING THIS CASE TO TRIAL, WHICH WE ARE PREPARED TO DO WE ALL KNOW ALL THE PROFESSIONALS AND INCIDENTS IN SPANISH WAY THAT BOTH SIDES TAKE RISKS.
THIS WOULD COME DOWN TO EXPERTS TESTIFYING IN THIS A RISK ON BOTH SIDES SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SETTLE THE CASE I THINK CPH WOULD BUT WE HAVE SOME NEW INFORMATION TONIGHT AND IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS THAT ALLOWS US TO MAKE A BETTER DECISION ABOUT Â" AND WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE COST MORE THAN WHAT WE INITIALLY THOUGHT THE CITY MANAGER AND I GOING INTO THAT MEDIATION SO THAT IS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK FROM AND WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT, THIS IS PUBLIC RECORD, 50,000 AND TAXPAYER
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MONEY FROM ALL OVER THE CITY AND ATTORNEYS FEES TO BRING THIS LAWSUIT AND WE WILL SPEND MORE MONEY BUT AT SOME POINT THE MANAGER AND I FELT LIKE WE TALKED TO COMMISSIONERS BEHIND THE SCENES, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR LONG ENOUGH.THE ROAD NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND MAY NOT BE PERFECT BUT WE NEED TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO FIX IT.
THE NUMBERS GOING TO BE HIGHER I KNOW IT WELL OR YOU'RE GOING TO END UP AT TRIAL AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT THAT IT IS NOT THE CITY WAS NOT NEGLIGENT IN ANY WAY WE COULD NOT FIND NEGLIGENCE ON PART OF THE CITY SO IT'S OUR POSITION THAT CPH IS AT FAULT AND WE WILL GO BACK HOPEFULLY TO THE MEDIATION TABLE TO START WITH AND OUR IN-HOUSE CITY ENGINEER TO GIVE US A BETTER PROCESS FOR WHAT THE FIXES WOULD BE IN IF YOU PLEASE I WOULD LIKE BECAUSE I THOUGHT ABOUT AND ACTUALLY TALKED WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS THIS MORNING WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE Â" NEIGHBORHOOD BUT IT WOULD BE BEST IF THERE ARE SEVERAL RESIDENTS INTERESTED IF YOU WOULD GIVE US PERMISSION TO HAVE ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD BE THE ONE THAT DEALS WITH INFORMATION AND COME IN AND THEY CAN TAKE THAT BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD I DON'T KNOW I KNOW SCOTT MICHELSON WHO IS A CITY EMPLOYEE IS HERE HE ALSO LIVES ON SPANISH WAY IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE FOR THE PERSON WE WOULD COMMUNICATE WITH IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE WOULD COMMUNICATE WITH ONE PERSON THAT COULD TAKE THAT MESSAGE BACK TO THEM IT'S EITHER THAT OR IN WRITING BUT I THINK SOME FACE-TO-FACE TIME WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> SO THE COMMISSION'S ADVICE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY HER PROPOSAL IS TO COMMUNICATE.
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> THAT'S FINE.
>> AND BECAUSE WE KNOW SCOTT AND HE IS HERE WE WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
>> IF YOU WOULD COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> SCOTT IS A NEW MEMBER OF THE BOARD AND WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE EVERYONE MISSPOKE HERE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA.
THE PERSON SELECTED WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OVER.
HE IS THE MOST EXPERIENCED PERSON WE HAVE.
>> SO POSSIBLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS GET THAT PERSON THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> THE MANAGER AND I WANTED TO REACH OUT SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> SOMETHING IS WRONG I WAS TOLD THAT WE HAD CHECKED ST. JOHN'S AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE THE CASE AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO SPECIFICS I WAS NOT TALKED TO IT'S A LUDICROUS THING I THINK PROBABLY WE NEED TO GET A LAWYER WHO IS EXPERIENCED IN THESE KINDS OF CASES IT WOULD APPEAR IF THAT IS TRUE THAT THEY BUILT IT Â" IF WE CAN EVER EFFECTIVELY FIX IT WITHOUT TEARING IT UP.
[INDISCERNIBLE] THE OPTICS ARE TERRIBLE AND IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT WE WENT OUT TO CONTRACT WITH THESE GUYS AFTER ALL WE WERE IN AND THEY DID NOT WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH US SO SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THAT PROCESS AND WE MAY BE THE VICTIM US BUT WE ARE PART OF THIS PROBLEM.
>> ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY?
>> DO I HAVE ONE OTHER SPEAKER? CAN YOU COME AND ADDRESS THIS?
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SO.ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
MR. [INDISCERNIBLE] WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS US?
>> MY NAME IS LEE PARKER 215 SOUTH FIFTH STREET AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO RESPONDED TO MY EMAIL.
MR. ROSS WAS ONLY ONE WHO RESPONDED I FOUND OVER THE YEARS THIS IS NOT TOLERABLE WHEN PEOPLE DON'T RESPOND TO CITIZENS.
WE BOUGHT A HOUSE IN 2006 WE MOVED IN NEXT DOOR IT WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO GOT OUT OF JAIL AND IS A PEDOPHILE ENGINE ARSONIST AND HE MOVED IN A CAMPER.
AND IT CLEARLY SAYS YOU CANNOT LIVE IN A CAMPER.
10 YEARS I TALKED TO EVERYBODY.
[INDISCERNIBLE] THE PROPERTY YOU CAN BE ON THE PROPERTY IF YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT CODE ENFORCEMENT SAYS NO YOU CAN'T.
WHY REASON THIS THING ENDED AFTER 10 YEARS BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN DIED OTHERWISE IT STILL BE GOING ON.
THE IDEA, IS TO APPLY FOR PAPERS I'M TOLD YOU CAN'T DO THIS.
EVERYTHING I HAVE BEEN TOLD IS NOT THERE.
IN THE CODE SO WE ARE MAKING THIS UP AS WE GO ALONG.
I AM TOLD THAT I HAVE TO SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT FOR THE NEXT WEEK I'M TOLD I HAVE TO SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT THEN I AM TOLD AFFIDAVIT TO GO BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR THIS IS QUOTING FROM STAFF, THE CHANGES WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WILL GO THROUGH THE COMMISSION.
I'M REALLY CURIOUS Â" BEING HELD TO THE STANDARDS AND SOMETHING HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANTED AND DASHES VERY CLEAR PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE PAYING FOR IT ETC. ETC.
BUT THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW THE WEIGHT IS BEING DISCUSSED IS RIDICULOUS.
THEY SAY IF THE CITY DOES UTILITIES ARE NO DEFINITIONS OF UTILITIES IS UTILITIES OR AT&T OR COMCAST OR UTILITIES OWNED BY THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH NO ANSWERS.
THEN I WAS TOLD WILL THIS BE APPLICABLE, WILL THIS BE APPLICABLE TO THE ALREADY EXISTING HOMES ONCE THEY ARE TOLD Â" SHOULD BE ILLEGAL BUT I WAS TOLD BY STAFF EXISTING CAMPERS ON NEW HOMES ARE ILLEGAL.
IF YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING ILLEGALLY.
I TOOK 27 PICTURES OF PEOPLE WITH PAVERS BETWEEN SECOND AND SEVENTH STREET.
AND ALL THESE PEOPLE COUPLE OF THEM SAID TO ME, YOU GUYS HAVE TO TAKE A BETTER LOOK AT YOUR CODE.
POORLY WORDED AND I DON'T THINK YOU CAN START PUTTING A CODE IN THERE UNTIL THE CODE IS PASSED.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT TO FIX THE CODE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE SEE THIS CODE AND YOU HAVE SAID WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> THANK YOU SIR.
[7.2 CITY COMMISSION 2021 GOALS ]
BACK IN SESSION.ITEM 7.2 CITY COMMISSION 28.21.
>> YOU HAVE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET A COMPILATION GOALS THAT YOU AGREE TO HER CAME TO CONSENSUS ON JANUARY 27 PROVIDED BY EMAIL OF THE LAST TWO WEEKS AS PART OF THE FRIDAY.
[INDISCERNIBLE] LOOKING FOR CONFIRMATION TO CODIFY THESE GOALS.
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ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.CITY CLERK, WILL YOU CALL THE VOTE?
[7.3 WATERFRONT RESILIENCY/PARK PHASE I CONCEPT ]
>> THIS IS A CHANCE TO CHECK THE BOX ON THE FIRST GOAL THAT YOU JUST APPROVE THIS IS TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO FINISH DESIGN AND SOLICIT FOR A SPECIFIC LIMITED COMPONENTS OF PHASE 1 OF THE WATERFRONT THAT INCLUDES THE RESILIENCY COMPONENTS BETWEEN THE SEAWALL AND THE BOARDWALK AND.
[INDISCERNIBLE] THOSE THREE ALONE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER ROSS >> WE HAVE TALKED THIS ONE TO DEATH.
[7.4 BUDGET AMENDMENT - TREE TRUST FUND ]
[INDISCERNIBLE] TRUST FUND.SO IF THIS IS A TRANSFER TO THE Â" EXPENSE ACCOUNT TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING COMPLIANT Â" $30,500.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
>> EVERY DISCUSSION LOOKING FOR HELP OF THIS IS A PLEA TO KEEP NASSAU BEAUTIFUL AND
OTHER THINGS IF THEY HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS >> THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
>> ITEM 7.5 CHANGE ORDER APPROVAL FOR Â" UTILITIES.
[7.5 CHANGE ORDER APPROVAL - MARINA UTILITIES, INC.]
>> THIS IS A REDUCTION FOR A CHANGE ORDER WE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED MODE MONEY FOR THOSE WERE ORIGINALLY EXCLUDED BUT WHEN THEY PAID THOSE THEY CAME IN APPROXIMATELY $3300 LESS THAN BUDGETED SO WE ARE ASKING FOR A CHANGE ORDER TO REDUCE THE EXPENDITURES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ORIGINAL CHANGE ORDER.
>> ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
[7.6 CHANGE ORDER APPROVAL - MARINA UTILITIES, INC.]
SORRY.I THOUGHT IT WAS SEEING DOUBLE.
MARINA UTILITIES INCORPORATED.
SMITH THIS IS AN INCREASE OF APPROXIMATELY $15,000 TO INSTALL MECHANICAL LINE LEAK DETECTORS AND WE CAN DO THIS AS PART OF THE FUEL SYSTEM REQUIRED BY FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[7.7 GOLF COURSE DIRECTION ]
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> AT THE PREVIOUS CITY COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 7 Â" GOLF MANAGEMENT THE DIRECTION WAS THE CITY WILL RUN THE COURSE ON AN INTERIM BASIS AND WE WILL PREPARE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL THE INTENT IS THAT WILL BE CRAFTED AND PRESENTED IN EARLY APRIL WITH THE INTENT IT WILL BE PUBLISHED BY LATE APRIL.
ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE ONE COMMENT.
YOU MAY RECALL I TALKED ABOUT THESE OPTIONS OF MANAGEMENT ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS WAS YOU COULD HIRE CONTRACT OUT AND THE MANAGEMENT OF THE GOLF
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COURSE OPERATION TO THE CITY AND HOW I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A HYBRID INCLUDED THERE ANY COMPANIES THAT WOULD JUST BID ON MAINTAINING THE PART OF THE GOLF COURSE COMMISSIONERS?>> WHEN WE CRAFT THE RFP WE ARE NOT GOING TO PUBLISH IT I BELIEVE THIS IS THE POLITICAL INTEREST IN THIS IS SUFFICIENTLY HIGH ENOUGH THAT THE RFP WOULD BE PRESENTED TO YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL WE CAN INCORPORATE STUFF LIKE THAT SO BEFORE WE HIT SEND AND SEND IT OUT OVER REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.
>> THERE ARE MASSES OF OPTIONS AND WITHIN RFP THE SELECTION IS BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND THIS IS CORRECT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CITY MANAGER Â" OPTION AND WHILE WE ARE ON THIS TOPIC IF WE CAN PUT YOU HAD INDICATED AT OUR MEETING YESTERDAY THAT THE INTERIM BUSINESS PLAN WAS FORTHCOMING.
I WILL WORK WITH CITY STAFF AND WE WILL PREPARE A BUDGETED FUND EXPENDITURE REPORT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR AND I WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU AT THE MARCH 2 MEETING.
SEEING NONE, [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I HOPE THAT THE STAFF THIS GOING TO WORK THIS AND I HOPE THEY PERFORM VERY WELL AND THAT THIS BECOMES ONE OF THE RFP ITEMS MAINTAINING A CITY STAFF HUNDRED PERCENT.
OTHER THAN THAT I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY.
>> MADAME CLERK WHAT YOU CALL FOR THE VOTE PLEASE.
>> THIS IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
[7.8 BUDGET AMENDMENT - GOLF COURSE]
>> THIS IS BECAUSE WE ARE NO LONGER PAYING SALARIES OR WAGES FOR THE GOLF COURSE AT LEAST CONTRACTUALLY.
WE HAVE TO MAKE ACCOUNTING ADJUSTMENT AND MOVE THE FUNDS TO PAY THEM TO A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM SO THIS HAS ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN IT FROM THE CONTRACTUAL AMOUNT.
>> FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 7.0101 TO ALLOW FOR
[8.1 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT - DRIVEWAY STANDARDS]
THE USE OF PAPERS AND CIRCULAR DRIVEWAYS WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY PREVENTING FOR Â" AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.SO JUST A REMINDER TO THE COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION.
[LAUGHTER] >> I SAID I WILL MAKE ONE.
HE IS NOT ONLY SEEING DOUBLE, HE IS HEARING DOUBLE.
[LAUGHTER] >> COMMISSIONER ROSS, PROCEED >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT THAT WOULD GO AFTER PAGE 44 AND THE CLAUSE THAT SAYS SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF AND INCORPORATES IF IN THE EVENT THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH OR ANY UTILITY WE CAN DEFINE UTILITY, NEEDS TO MAKE REPAIRS ON THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY WHICH UPON REMOVAL OR DAMAGE TO AN ARCHITECTURAL PAVER OR DRIVEWAY WHICHEVER YOU WANT, THE OWNER SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT AT THEIR EXPENSE.
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[INDISCERNIBLE] IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND IF THE CITY COMES THROUGH IT'S ON MY NICKEL TO FIX IT.IF THE CITY CAN COME IN AND PUT A CONCRETE BUT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A PAVED DRIVEWAY WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA IT'S ON YOUR NICKEL TO FIX THAT IF THE CITY HAS TO COME THROUGH.
THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO PAY FOR SOMEONE TO FIX IT.
IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIX IT.
IF THE CITY HAS TO TEAR IT UP OTHERWISE IT'S A NIGHTMARE FOR THE CITY IT'S A NIGHTMARE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
>> AND IT'S NOT JUST A HASSLE.
THAT'S BESIDES THE POINTS WE HAVE HASSLES EVERY DAY WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF HASSLES BUT IT'S THE COST AND IS COST PROHIBITIVE.
TAXPAYER MONEY THAT THE COST OF PAVERS I UNDERSTAND FOUR OR FIVE TIMES THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THE CITY CAN AFFORD TO REPLACE.
DID YOU GET THE AMENDED PLAN? COMMISSIONER B.
MY FIRST QUESTION IS I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD MAKE
>> THERE IS AN ADDENDUM SHEET.
SO IT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR Â" LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT HONORS THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE, THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
>> THE ADDENDUM THAT COMMISSIONER ROSS IS REFERRING TO IT'S BASICALLY AN AGREEMENT OR AFFIDAVIT THAT THE HOMEOWNER WOULD SIGN WHEN THEY GET APPROVAL FROM THE CITY TO PUT THESE DRIVEWAYS IN, INITIALLY.
THEY ARE ON NOTICE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY AT THEIR EXPENSE TO REPLACE THE PAVERS OF THEIR TAKING OUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BY THE CITY AND COMMISSIONER ROSS AND I THINK RIGHTFULLY SO SAID LET'S CODIFY THAT SO IF SOMEONE OPENS A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER SOURCE TO FIND THE POLICY ON HOW
THESE AND >> PASSING THIS TONIGHT WILL RESOLVE THE ISSUE THAT HE HAD WHEN WE PASSED THIS HE WILL BE ALLOWED TO Â" PAPERS DOWN.
>> I THINK THIS WOULD LARGELY TAKE CARE OF THAT.
>> AND FINALLY THIS FIRST READING, WHEN WE APPROVE THIS, YOU COULD BE ABLE TO DO IT TOMORROW.
>> I LIKE TO SEE A UNANIMOUS VOTE IF WE ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS BEFORE THE SECOND READING.
>> THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY IS I AGREE WITH IT 100 PERCENT THERE ARE OTHER SUBSTRATES FOR HOT Â" BESIDES PAVERS.
WHATEVER VERBIAGE AS LONG AS THAT IS IN THERE.
IT COMMUNICATES THAT NO MATTER WHAT THE MATERIAL IS.
IF IT SO YOU CITY OR THE UTILITY COMPANY THAT HAS TO REMOVE ANYTHING IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO REPAVE OR REPAIR IT.
IF IT'S PAVED, ROCK, STONE, ASTROTURF.
>> TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY EXCEED THE COST OF THE CONCRETE AND WE NEED TO ADD BRICKS.
>> WHATEVER WE DO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT COVERS EVERYTHING.
[8.2 FY 20/21 AMENDED PAY AND CLASSIFICATION PLAN - ADD CITY ENGINEER]
Â" CLASSIFICATION AND >> THANK YOU.
ORDINANCE 20, 21 Â" 05 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH ESTABLISHING AN AMENDED CLASSIFICATION PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020, 2021 PURSUANT TO SECTION 120 OF THE CITY CHARTER IN SECTION 62 Â" 247 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE RIGHT OUT OF
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THE DATE Â" RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDED PROPOSAL THE GOLF COURSE POSITIONS FOR TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY A CLASSIFICATION PLAN WE NEED TO ADD THEM VERBALLY SO I PROPOSE TO YOU IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR SCREENS AND WHAT WAS UPLOADED TO THE WEBSITE THE CITY ENGINEER WAS THE MAIN CHANGE WE HAVE APPLIED TO FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION UNDER PART-TIME AND NONEXEMPT CLASSIFICATIONS, PLEASE BEAR WITH ME THE POSITION OF SERVER PLUS TIPS AT A PAY GRADE OF 001 MINIMUM WAGE $5.75 TO A MAXIMUM OF $8.56 PART ATTENDANT AT A PAY GRADE OF 122 PRO SHOP ATTENDANT AT A GRADE OF 122 STARTER/RANGER AT A GRADE OF 122 GOLF COURSE PROFESSIONAL AT A GRADE OF 124 GOLF COURSE MECHANIC AT A GRADE OF 125 AND UNDER ACCEPT CLASSIFICATIONS, THE POSITION OF ASSISTANT GOLF SUPERINTENDENT AT A PAY GRADE OF 131.[INDISCERNIBLE] AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION Â" THE PROPOSED Â" OF THE FIRST READING.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND GREAT DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, [INDISCERNIBLE] CITY CLERK.
>> ITEM 8.3 CODE AMENDMENT TECHNICAL CODES.
[8.3 CODE AMENDMENT - TECHNICAL CODES ]
OKAY.ORDINANCE 2021 Â" 06 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA AMENDED CHAPTER 22 BUILDINGS AND BUILDING REGULATIONS BY AMENDING SECTION 22 Â" 26 TO UPDATE THE ADDITIONS OF TECHNICAL CODES REFERENCE PROVIDED FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS LITERALLY UPDATING THE CODES REFERENCED IN OUR CODE FOR BUILDING CODE, ELECTRICAL CODE AND SO FORTH.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
>> IT DOESN'T REALLY BOTHER ME.
>> I WAS HALF LISTENING TO YOU.
>> WE HAVE A POLICE OFFICER HERE.
>> ITEM 8.4 CODE AMENDMENT PARADES.
[8.4 CODE AMENDMENT - PARADES]
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR THE COMMISSION TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE TO THE MARCH 16 CITY COMMISSION MEETING.
WE HAVE SOME MORE WORK TO DO ON THIS.
>> MOVED TO CONTINUE TO MARCH 16 >> I DID HAVE A Â" DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS?
[8.5 CODE AMENDMENT - NAMING FACILITIES ]
>> ORDINANCE 2021 Â" 08 AND ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA BY AMENDING CHAPTER 65 RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND SPECIAL EVENTS BY CREATING ARTICLE 4 AND SECTION 51 INTENT, CREATING SIX Â" SECTION 52 DEFINITIONS IN SECTION 53 ADOPTION.
SECTION 54 NAMING REGULATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> I MOVED TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT.
PAGE 3 OF FIVE SECTION 7 SOMEWHERE NOTWITHSTANDING ANY REVISIONS SOLE
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DISCRETION CITY ON FACILITY AFTER A PERSON WHO DONATES LAND STRIKE THAT.>> THE SECTION REGARDING THE CRITERIA INCLUDED IF SOMEONE DONATES LAND TO THE CITY WITHOUT REALLY QUALIFYING WHAT THAT MEANS OR EXPLAINING WHAT THAT MEANS.
THERE ARE A FEW CLAUSES ON THIS THAT CONCERNED ME.
OVERALL, THIS SEEMS TO PUT THE COMMISSION IN A BOX SOMETIMES AND I WOULD AGREE SOME OF THESE CLAUSES ARE GOOD CRITERIA I WOULD LOOK FOR IF WE WERE TO DECIDE TO NAME SOMETHING BUT THERE ARE SOME SUCH AS DECEASED WHICH IS ONE I WOULD LOOK INTO IT LIMITS TO THE COMMISSION CAN PICK IN THE PAST WE HAVE NAME THINGS AND ONE OF THEM IS MAYOR ALBERT BEFORE HE PASSED, WE NAMED ABBOTT FIELD AFTER HIM AND I BELIEVE IT'S GOOD TO HONOR.
ARE WE LOOKING TO HONOR OR MEMORIALIZE? WE ARE PUTTING OURSELVES INTO A BOX.
I HAVE YET TO SEE AN ISSUE THAT I THINK YOU MIGHT NEED THIS.
SO FOR ME TO GET BEHIND THIS I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK TO MAYBE TAKE OUT SOME OF THOSE CLAUSES AS WELL LIKE THE DECEASED ONE AND IF YOU ARTIE TOOK OUT THE LAND ONE.
THE DECEASED ONE IS WHAT I AM GETTING AT.
>> SO ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION TO ELIMINATE SECTION D DECEASED?
>> TO AMEND THE MOTION >> SO COMMISSIONER ROSS, >> I AM GOING TO GENTLY PUSH BACK BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD WHEN SOMEBODY SHOWS UP TO SAY NO.
AND I'M NOT SAYING IT HAS BEEN INAPPROPRIATE BUT WHAT WE ARE FORGETTING IS PEOPLE SHOW UP AND I THINK THE FOCUS WAS TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT'S GOOD TO MAKE Â" NAME THINGS AFTER LIVING PEOPLE BUT DECEASED SO THERE WOULD BE PRESSURE GOING ON FOR SOMEBODY SITTING RIGHT THERE AND THAT'S WHY I AM OPPOSED BECAUSE HAVING BEEN WHERE PEOPLE COME IN AND WANT TO NAME THINGS IT PUTS A STRAIN ON THE COMMISSION IF THEY WANT TO DO THAT, THAT'S FINE BUT I THINK THAT WAS TERRIBLE.
[LAUGHTER] >> I SUPPORT MAYBE THAT'S NOT REASONABLE.
>> WE WENT THROUGH THIS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO AND ACTUALLY THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
REALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS WE ARE GOING TO NOMINATE SOMEONE I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ALREADY NAMED THOSE ALREADY.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT Â" JUST CAN'T SAY NO.
IN DIFFERENT SITUATIONS >> IF IT'S NOT THE PERSON HIMSELF IT'S THE SON OR THE BROTHER IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY WHO WOULD BE HERE AND SO SOMEBODY REGARDLESS WILL BE
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HERE AND YOU WILL HAVE TO TELL SOMEONE KNOW AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US SIGNED UP FOR THE CONDITION TO MAKE THESE HARD DECISIONS AND I GUESS MY OTHER POINT ABOUT THIS IS THE CYST SOMETHING I AM SEEING VERY BIG CITIES WOULD HAVE AN ORDINANCE LIKE THIS IF YOU ARE IN ORLANDO YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW EVERY SINGLE NAMING Â" WE ARE AWARE OF EVERY SINGLE OPPORTUNITY AND I BELIEVE WE ARE AWARE OF EVERY POSSIBLE PERSON AND IF WE DON'T KNOW THEM PERSONALLY WE KNOW WHAT GOOD THEY DO IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT'S MY ONLY PUSHBACK ON THAT, I AM GOING BACK TO THIS ORDINANCE IT'S A SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEM AND IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO PULL OUT THE DECEASED I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WENT INTO WRITING THIS BUT CITY MANAGER.>> ONE THING YOU MIGHT CONSIDER.
FURTHER THINK WHAT THE COMMISSIONER MEANS.
THREE OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED.
AND IT IS HARD TO SAY NOW IS HARD FOR THE STAFF TO SAY NOW.
WHAT IF YOU PASS THIS ORDINANCE AS IT IS AND YOU CHALLENGE THE COMMISSIONER OR OTHERS TO COME UP WITH A HIGHER LEVEL OF CRITERIA IF YOU WANT TO RECOGNIZE SOMEONE WHO IS LIVING YOU SET A SUPERIOR THRESHOLD CHALLENGE THE COMMISSIONER THAT MIGHT BE ACCEPTABLE TO NAME THE FACILITY FOR A LIVING PERSON.
>> THIS IS A FIRST READING SO IT'S NOT THE FINAL VOTE.
I AM ON THE FENCE ON THIS ONE AS VICE MAYOR THOMPSON NAMED THE COLUMN AFTER MLK.
SO BY MAKING DECEASED WE WOULD NO LONGER DO THAT.
>> I LIKE THE CITY MANAGER SUGGESTION.
>> SO SOMEBODY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS, WE WILL HAVE TO TELL SOMEONE KNOW AND I DON'T THINK WE SIGNED UP ON THE COMMISSION TO MAKE THESE HARDCODED DECISIONS SO I WOULD ARGUE THAT AND MY OTHER POINT ABOUT THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING I AM SAYING VERY BIG CITIES WOULD HAVE AN ORDINANCE LIKE THIS, WHICH MAKES COMPLETE SENSE IF YOU ARE IN ORLANDO YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW EVERY SINGLE OPPORTUNITY OR KNOW EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO IS UP TO BE NAMED BUT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE AWARE OF EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY AND WE HAVE NAMED MOST THINGS AND I BELIEVE WE ARE AWARE OF EVERY POSSIBLE PERSON AND IF WE DON'T KNOW THEM PERSONALLY WE AT LEAST KNOW WHAT GOOD THEY DO IN OUR COMMUNITY SO THAT'S MY ONLY PUSHBACK ON THAT AND I GO BACK TO THIS ORDINANCE IS A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM AND IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO PULL OUT THE DECEASED, I APPRECIATE THE GOOD WORK THAT WENT INTO WRITING THIS BUT I'M NOT SURE IF WE NEED TO ADD THIS INTO THE CODE.
>> CITY MANAGER WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
FURTHER THINK WITH THE COMMISSIONER MEANS THANK YOU MR. MAYOR ONE THING YOU MIGHT CONSIDER IS PERHAPS WITH A HIGHER LEVEL OF CRITERIA IN ORDER IF YOU WANT TO RECOGNIZE SOMEONE WHO IS LIVING, YOU SAID A SUPERIOR THRESHOLD, 10,000 SIGNATURES OR I AM JUST SAYING CHALLENGE COMMISSIONER BEEM TO COME UP WITH A HIGHER THRESHOLD THAT MIGHT BE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU TO NAME A FACILITY FOR A LIVING PERSON.
>> >> SO BY MAKING DECEASED WE WOULD NO LONGER DO THAT.
>> I LIKE THE CITY MANAGER'S SUGGESTION.
>> I AM HAPPY THAT YOU LIKED IT.
[LAUGHTER] >> I AM HAPPY THAT YOU ARE HAPPY.
>> SO I THINK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO THE LECTERN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE?
>> SUE AND TIM 104 BROOK STREET.
WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD OF FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE WE ALSO WRESTLED WITH THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU GET INTO A QUESTION OF DONORS.
IF SOMEONE GIVES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, SHOULD SOMETHING BE NAMED FOR THEM? ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT MADE US TAKE A SECOND THOUGHT ABOUT HONORING LIVING PEOPLE, WAS TODAY PEOPLE LIVE A LONG TIME AND THEY HAVE MULTIPLE CAREERS AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU NAMED SOMETHING LEGITIMATELY FOR SOMEBODY WHO DID A REALLY WONDERFUL THING.
THEY SAVED A FAMILY THAT WAS IN A BOAT THAT WAS CAPSIZED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR THEY ARE ARRESTED FOR SMUGGLING DRUGS.
YOU HAVE A BUILDING NAME FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS A FELON.
AND THE IDEA OF WAITING TO DO SOMETHING UNTIL SOMEBODY HAS PASSED, YOU GET THE PICTURE OF THE WHOLE LIFE AS OPPOSED TO ONE INSTANCE IN TIME AND YOU ALSO AVOID PROBLEMS LIKE WHEN PRESIDENT KENNEDY WAS ASSASSINATED, EVERYBODY WANTED TO RENAME EVERYTHING FOR PRESIDENT KENNEDY.
HE GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE TIME TO CONSIDER THE GRAVITY OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
>> HOW DO WE GET TO THE POINT OF Â" CAN WE JUST?
>> AND THAT WAS THE MOTION TO REMOVE DECEASE.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE AMENDMENT.
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IF THE AMENDMENT PASSES, THAT'S PART OF THE Â" >> RIGHT.
>> YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.
SECTION 9 ORDINANCES Â" ITEM 9.1.
[9.1 PROHIBITION OF E-BIKES ]
PROHIBITION OF E BIKES.>> ORDINANCE 21 Â" 02 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION ON THE CITY OF BERNADINO BEACH FLORIDA AMENDING THE ORDINANCES THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA BY AMENDING CHAPTER 78 TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES ARTICLE 1 IN GENERAL BY AMENDING SECTION 1 DEFINITIONS TO INCLUDE ELECTRIC BICYCLES BY AMENDING ARTICLE 2 OPERATION OF VEHICLES BY AMENDING SECTION 41 TO INCLUDE A SPEED LIMIT ON SIDEWALKS AND BY AMENDING SECTION 43 TO PROHIBIT ELECTRIC BICYCLES ON EGAN'S CREEK GREENWAY AND CITY BEACHES AND AMENDING SECTIONS 1 THROUGH EIGHT 41 THROUGH 45 TO EDIT FOR CLARITY WITHOUT CHANGING THEIR MEANING PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AN AMENDMENT TO THE SPEED LIMIT PROVISION ON THE SIDEWALKS OF THIS WAS AFTER THE REQUEST OF SOME OF THE CYCLING COMMUNITY AND THAT IS TO REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT ALLOWED FOR BICYCLES ON SIDEWALKS FROM 15 TO 10 MILES PER HOUR.
MEANING THAT INTERNALLY INCLUDING THE POLICE THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
>> DON'T SAY YOU'RE GOING TO SECOND MY MOTION.
I AM MOVING TO APPROVE THIS AS WRITTEN NUMBER ONE WHAT THE ATTORNEY Â" HAS JUST PROPOSED A NUMBER TWO SECTION H TO SAY ELECTRIC BICYCLES CLASS II AND THREE WHICH WILL ALLOW CLASS I BICYCLES ARE NOT PERMITTED ON THE BEACHES NOR EGAN'S CREEK WAY TO THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE THIS WOULD ALLOW CLASS I BICYCLES WHICH WOULD TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND ALSO TAKE CARE OF OTHER BICYCLES WHICH CAN HAVE EXCESSIVE SPEED AND CAUSE PROBLEMS.
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A SPEAKER ON THIS.
MR. JOHN CAN I LIVE AT 4441 MAIN STREET.
MY COMMENTS ARE MY OWN BUT THE BIKING COMMUNITY HAS HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION BEHIND THE SCENES.
OPPOSED TO THE ALL E BIKES BAN ON THE GREENWAY IN THE CITY BEACHES AS COMMISSIONER ROSS SAID CLASS I, TWO AND THREE I AM IN FAVOR OF THE 10 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT FOR ALL BICYCLES ON THE BEACH IN GREENWAY.
THE E BIKES SALES ARE GOING FAST.
I JUST REPLACED MY WIFE'S OLD BIKE WITH A CLASS IE BIKE HI THANK YOU MOST WRITERS FIT THE PROFILE.
THEY LIKE TO BIKE BUT THEY NEED A LITTLE HELP SOMETIMES THEY HAVE A PHYSICAL PROBLEM WHERE THEY NEED HELP WITH WIND, HILLS OR SOFT SURFACES.
I THINK THE CLASS IE BIKE IS POOR ABOUT ENABLING WRITING THEM PARTICULARLY GOING FAST.
AND THE COUNTY IS RECONSIDERING THE BAN ON THE MAJOR TRAILS TO ALLOW THE CLASS IE BIKE AS WELL 10 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT NOTE THERE IS CURRENTLY NO SPEED LIMIT AND ENACTING THIS IS A GREAT WAY BECAUSE NORMAL BIKES CAN GO FASTER THAN 10 IT'S NICE TO HAVE SOME HARMONIZATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNTY ON THIS
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BECAUSE THE LINES ARE BLURRED TO SOME PEOPLE.ONE ISSUE I HAVE HEARD IS I GET THE POINT ABOUT CLASS IE BIKES BUT HOW CAN YOU TELL BETWEEN 012 AND THREE.
2 IS EASY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A THROTTLE YOU DOCTOR PUDDLE OF THREE, STILL PADDLE ASSIST BUT THE SPEED LIMIT KIND OF NEGATES THAT SO IT'S LIKE A MUSTANG WITH 500 HORSEPOWER THEY CAN STILL BEAT THE SPEED LIMIT.
ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO BAN ALL BIKES WHICH I THINK WOULD DISAPPOINT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN YOUR POSITION HAS TO BE SOMEHOW THAT THE TWO WHEELS ON THE E BIKE OR MORE DAMAGING THAN THE TWO WILLS OF A NORMAL BIKE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A SHAME WITH ALL THE HOMES APARTMENTS AND HOTELS THAT THE CITY HAS APPROVED THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO BE CONSIDERED TO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT RESULTS IN BIKES Â" LASTLY THE GREENWAY IS DEVELOPED AS A PUBLIC PARK THE BEACH AND GREENWAY ARE MAINTAIN AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE AND WITHIN REASON IN RESPONSE FOR SAFETY SHOULD ALWAYS BE CAREFUL TO NOT RESTRICT USAGE BY THE PUBLIC AND UNDULY DISCRIMINATORY WAY.
SO IN CLOSING, PLEASE EXEMPT CLASS IE BIKES IN THE BAND AND I RECOMMEND THE 10 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT FOR ALL BIKES.
MOTION TO ALLOW CLASS ONE ON BEACHES EXCEPT FOR Â" I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT THE GREENWAY THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE IS A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR.
WE LOST CONTROL EIGHT YEARS AGO AND Â" MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS AND I DON'T THINK WE ARE IN A POSITION TO BAN THEM ALL BUT IT IS RECREATION SAFETY WAS A
SECONDARY ISSUE AND Â" >> MR. BEEM PRAY >> I BELIEVE THIS MOTION OF EXEMPTING CLASS IE BIKES IS A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL THREE CLASSES OF E BIKES EXEMPTED FROM THE REGULATION WHICH I KNOW IS NOT POPULAR THIS COMMISSION I'M COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF THE 10 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT WHICH IS THE SPEAKER JUST SAID WE GO AHEAD AND NEGATE THE ABILITY OF THE SPEED LIMIT UNDER THE SPEED LIMIT THE CLASS III SHOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE LIKE A CLASS I AND MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? IT'S A CLASS TO YOU AND YOU CAN'T GO FASTER THAN 10 MILES AN HOUR.
I BELIEVE I DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT THE WAY PEOPLE IN OUR CITY CAN DO RECREATION I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL BIKES Â" BUT I AM IN FAVOR OF SPEED LIMIT FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.
SUMAYA BRADLEY TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH.
I HAVE A DESIRE BASED ON ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE ACQUIRED I DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT ANYBODY ON THE ISLAND MOVING AROUND IF THEY HAVE A CLASS II OR THREE BIKE.
TO ME A BIKE IS A BIKE IF THEY HAVE A THROTTLE WHERE THEY ARE PADDLE ASSIST, WE SHOULD JUST HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR 10 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON ALL THE AREAS INCLUDING THE GREENWAY AND THE BEACH SO REALLY PRETTY SIMPLE TO ME.
AND THE POLICE OFFICERS Â" OTHER THAN THE THROTTLE AND THE THURSDAY SPEED LIMIT THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING FASTER THAN 10 MILES AN HOUR IT'S OBVIOUSLY PRETTY FAST IN I HAVE A HARD TIME VOTING TO REMOVE ANY OF OUR CITIZENS ABILITIES TO USE A CLASS II OR THREE IF THEY ARE COGNIZANT AND RESPONSIBLE.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
[LAUGHTER] >> CITY ATTORNEY YOUR AMENDMENT WAS FOR A SPEED LIMIT I JUST HEARD SIDEWALKS.
WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE BIKE TRAILS LIKE THE RIVER TO SEE TRAILS? ASPHALT?
>> IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO WHAT COMMISSIONER STURGIS SAID AS ALL THE SIDEWALKS TRAILS BEACHES AND GREENWAY FOR EXAMPLE MAKE SURE YOU COVER THE GREENWAY IF YOU WANT TO DO A 10 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT THERE IT WOULD NOT BE COVERED WHAT YOU
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WOULD DO IF BESSIE ONLY REGULATION THAT YOU WANT TO PASS TONIGHT MR. MAYOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THIS WOULD BE REJECTED AND FAIL AND WE WOULD TAKE ANOTHER CHAPTER AND BRING IT BACK FOR AN AMENDMENT AT 10 MILES AN HOUR.>> I AM OF THE Â" THAT IF GOVERNMENT CAN STAY OUT OF THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WE CAN REGULATE OUR PEOPLE TO DEATH AND THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF ONE PERCENT RUINING IT FOR THE OTHER 99.
IF YOU IF WE PASS THIS, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A POLICE OFFICER Â" EVER.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SOME BIKE IS GOING TO GO WHIZZING BY THEY ARE GOING TO CALL THE POLICE AND NOW THE POLICE HAVE TO COME OUT TO EGAN'S CREEK AND THEY HAVE TO FIND THE OFFENDER AND THEN THEY HAVE TO CHECK WHAT CLASS OF BIKE THIS IS.
REALLY? NUMBER JUST LIKE WE DO ANY OTHER VEHICLES ON OUR STREET YOU HAVE A SPEED LIMIT.
IF THIS IS REALLY A PROBLEM I HAVE ALMOST BEEN NAILED BY BICYCLES WE ALL KNOW REALLY GOOD BICYCLISTS CAN GO 20 MILES AN HOUR THAT IS NOT A DIFFICULT THING TO DO THIS IS WHERE WE LIVE WE LIVE ON AN ISLAND WITH BICYCLES, E BIKES, TRUCKS, MOTORCYCLES, SCOOTERS, AND WE WANT TO REGULATE IT TO DEATH.
I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
SO I THINK COMMISSIONER ROSS, [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT WE ELIMINATE THE E BIKE PHRASE AND JUST GO WITH THE SPEED LIMIT.
TO COVER ALL OF THE VENUES >> I AM ASSUMING WE WANT TO SETTLE THIS TONIGHT.
>> WHILE WE ARE DOING THAT I HAVE A QUESTION.
IF THERE IS A SPEED LIMIT ON THE BEACH HOW MANY MILES AN HOUR? I THINK IT SIX.
AND WHAT IS IT? WE DO IT FOR CARS.
>> CAN YOU COME TO THE LECTERN.
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> MY QUESTION WAS, THE SPEED LIMIT APPLIED TO CARS ON THE
BEACH >> WE ARE CHECKING THE PARKING AREA.
IT'S AT A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SECTION AND THAT'S MY CHALLENGE TONIGHT.
THIS IS LET'S SEE CHAPTER 78 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO SINCE WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SETTLE IT TONIGHT I HAVE TO BRING IT BACK FOR ANOTHER READING WITH A NEW TITLE TO GOODS ADVERTISED AMENDS CHAPTER 78 TRAFFIC OF VEHICLES TO ME ALL BICYCLES, E BICYCLES WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT DEFINITION AND RECOGNIZE THAT THEY EXIST AND ALL BICYCLES INCLUDING ELECTRIC BICYCLES ON SIDEWALKS, TRAILS, THE GREENWAY, BEACHES, HAVE A SPEED LIMIT OF 10 MILES AN HOUR.
>> DO I HAVE A SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> IT'S EITHER Â" I HAVE TO TELL YOU WE CONTINUE TO DESTROY THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE NEXT THING THAT WILL HAPPEN THAT WAS PURCHASED UNDER Â" WHAT YOU HAVE GOING ON YES PEOPLE WHIZZING BY TAKING PICTURES AND 1/10 AND THE NEXT THING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THERE'S GOING TO BE PAVERS AND ON THE BEACH WE HAVE ALREADY PARTIALLY DESTROYED OUR BEACHES FOR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING ON HOW YOU DO DRIVE.
[INDISCERNIBLE] LOOK AT THE TIRE TRACKS AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH WE ACTUALLY HAVE A 2012 RESOLUTION REQUIRING BEACH DRIVING.
[INDISCERNIBLE] THE POINT IS WE KEEP GOING DOWN A SLIPPERY SLOPE WE TALK ABOUT TREES IN THE ENVIRONMENT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT WE HAVE WILDLIFE
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OUT THERE AND WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN NO MOTORIZED VEHICLES SO WHAT REALLY HAPPENS IS IT'S TOO BAD THE FEDS DON'T ENFORCE THAT THE STATE DOESN'T ENFORCE IT SO BE IT.>> CAN I ASK THE QUESTION WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE ON THE GREENWAY BETWEEN A MOUNTAIN BIKE GOING 15 MILES AN HOUR AND A PEDAL ASSISTED E BIKE TO THE ENVIRONMENT? BOTH ARE BAD EXCEPT HERE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BAN THE ELECTRIC BIKES BECAUSE IT'S A MOTORIZED VEHICLE IT'S A LESSER PROBLEM AND I WILL TELL YOU YOU GET TO THE SOUTH END OF THE GREENWAY AND THEY ARE GOING TO TEAR IT UP.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN GET AWAY WITH Â" BUT WE SHOULD.
DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A WILDLIFE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE SET ASIDE FOR THAT PURPOSE OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A RACETRACK? BUT I SEE IT ALSO, I AM NOT, I WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT THIS UP AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE AND I GOT ALL SCREWED AROUND TALKING ABOUT SAFETY IS SECONDARY.
I WILL VOTE FOR YOU KNOW MY POSITION.
>> I THINK YOU JUST TURNED RELIED ON.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? ON THIS ISSUE? OKAY.
WE HAVE AN AMENDED Â" SO THE AMENDMENT IS TO Â" THE SPEED LIMIT.
>> THE MOTION IS TO ELIMINATE THE REFERENCE TO E BIKES.
SO CAN YOU CALL THE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT PLEASE?
[INDISCERNIBLE] CAN THAT PHRASE ALSO INCLUDE Â" MILES PER HOUR?
>> EXCEPT THE 10 MILES AN HOUR THAT I REFERENCED WAS ONLY FOR SIDEWALKS.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE 10 MILES AN HOUR EVERYWHERE AND THAT IS PART OF THE Â" I WOULD MAKE THAT PART OF THIS AMENDMENT.
THIS WILL COME BACK FOR ANOTHER READING BECAUSE THE TITLE NEEDS TO BE RE-ADVERTISED WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER GO WITH THIS.
I DID FIND OUT THAT THE SPEED LIMIT AT THE SEASIDE PARK ON BEACH PARKING AREA IS 10 MILES AN HOUR BUT IT IS NOT POSTED.
>> I RECOMMEND THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE BEACH OR THE BEACH DRIVING REQUIREMENTS THAT EVERYBODY DRIVE IS 10 MILES AN HOUR.
>> MANDATORY BEACH DRIVING SPEED VEHICLES RECOMMENDED 10 MILES AN HOUR WE DON'T
REQUIRE Â" >> WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?
ITEM 922 Â" CODE AMENDMENT AFFECTED PARTIES HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL >>
[9.2 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT - AFFECTED PARTIES AND APPEALS OF HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL DECISIONS ]
ORDINANCE 2021 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FLORIDA AMENDED THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ADD A DEFINITION OF A GRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY OR PERSON IN SECTION 1.00.07 AND AMENDING SECTION 8 POINT SEE Â" 8.079 AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.[02:45:03]
PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? COMMISSIONER ROSS.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO STRIKE SECTIONS ABC AND CONTINUA SECTION D AND REPLACE SECTIONS ABC WITH THE FOLLOWING.
AND A PERSON Â" BY ANY DECISION EXCUSE ME.
AN APPLICANT BY ANY DECISION MAY BE APPEALED TO Â" OUTLINED IN SECTION 10.02, 04 SO BASICALLY WE GET THE CITY COMMISSION OUT OF THIS AND A GRIEF PARTY MEANS THERE IS SKIN IN THE GAME AND A TIME TO APPEAL THE DECISION BOTH SIDES TO ME THAT'S MY MOTION.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> AND SECTION DI JUST WANT TO KEEP THIS IN HERE AN APPLICANT MAY APPEAL A DECISION OF THE CITY MANAGER TO THE HTC AND THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT AN APPEAL IN WRITING AND.
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> I THINK THIS IS THE BEST THING THAT COULD COME TO THIS THE CITY COMMISSION DOESN'T NEED TO BE HEARING APPEALS FROM THE HTC THAT'S ALL WE HAVE THE HTC AND IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT IT NEEDS TO GO TO COURT I AM ALL FAVOR OF THIS MOTION.
>> AND THIS DOES ADDRESS MY CONCERNS AND I WILL BE VOTING YES.
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
10.1 AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION.
[10.1 AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION]
[INDISCERNIBLE] PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[10.2 PUBLIC, EDUCATIONAL, AND GOVERNMENT (PEG) CHANNEL COMMITTEE ]
AND Â" SOMEONE HAS REQUESTED TO SPEAK TAYLOR OWEN B.TAYLOR, HAS HE LEFT? I RECOMMEND THE APPOINTMENT OF LAUREN TEMPLETON.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
>> A QUICK UPDATE ON THE MARINA WE WILL START WITH THE MARINA YOU HAVE TALKED
[ 11. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]
ABOUT THAT FOR TWO MEETINGS SO THEY ARE CONTINUING TO FUEL ACCORDING TO MR. FITZSIMMONS, IT SHOULD BE UP AND ARE RUNNING THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH THEY RAN INTO SOME WEATHER ISSUES AND WHETHER, TIDES, FOG.SO THEY WERE SET BACK A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK OR SO SO REGARDING THE GOLF COURSE AND TOP TRACER THAT'S MOVING FORWARD WE ARE HAVING SOME LANDSCAPING AROUND THE FACILITY WE HAVE SOME BANNERS UP WE HAVE AN EXCEPTIONAL MEETING AND WE HAVE BEEN HELPING Â" OUT WE HAVE BEEN STARTING A PROGRAM Â" A SCOOP AND THE NEWS LEADER AND IT INDICATES WE ARE SELLING SPONSORSHIPS AND THROUGH THE SPONSORSHIPS, 2500 APIECE FOR TWO YEARS AND WITH THAT YOU GET ONE HOUR OF TOP TRACER TIME
[02:50:04]
DURING NONPEAK TIMES PER MONTH SO SO FAR THEY HAVE SOLD FIVE OF THE 10 THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND WHEN THOSE ARE SOLD OUT WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADVERTISING PURPOSES AND WE ARE LOOKING AT A SOFT OPENING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH IF NOT INTO THE EARLY PART OF MARCH AND OFFICIAL OPENING NOT A GRAND OPENING THE OFFICIAL SOFT OPENING WILL BE IN MARCH AS WELL AND YOU SAID THIS WAS THE SUNSHINE STATE WE WILL BE UNTIL APRIL SO WE ARE NOT DEMONSTRATING TOP TRACER AT WINTER PARK IT'S LIKE THE GRAND OPENING WILL BE IN APRIL.SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.
>> WE REACHED OUT TO THE TDC TO HELP US WITH MARKETING, TOP TRACER.
>> BOTH MS. HAMBURG AND Â" HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. LANGLEY.
[LAUGHTER] SEVERAL JUST TO LET YOU KNOW SEVERAL LOCAL CONTRACTORS THE COMPANY THE PUT THE ROOF ON IT HAS BOUGHT A SPONSORSHIP.
MR. JOHNSON THE BUILDING HAS A SPONSORSHIP THERE'S A COUPLE OF RESTAURANTS AND I AM BLANKING OUT ON THE FOURTH.
[LAUGHTER] ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU.
>> Â" WINTER PARK FLORIDIANS FOR OUR WINTER GEAR I HAVE THREE THINGS
[12. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]
REAL QUICK FIRST OF ALL I AM WORKING ON A COUPLE OF PROJECTS ONE PROJECT I THINK YOU WILL AGREE WITH, NO COMMISSIONER ROSS DOES WE OWN PROPERTIES IN THE CITIES THAT ARE CONSERVATION AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS YOUR SUCCESSORS CAN'T CHANGE THE ZONING ON RECREATION AND CONSERVATION EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A CHARTER REVISION THAT WAS PASSED BY THE VOTERS AND REALLY MADE IT STRICT ABOUT SALE OR LEASE IT SAYS YOU CAN'T REZONE IT SO THERE'S AN ARGUMENT THEY COULD FREELY BE REZONE TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN RECREATION CONSERVATION SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AND IT WILL COME TO THE PHP AND TO YOU ALL IS TO GO AHEAD ON THE CONSERVATION AND PROPERTY AT A CONSERVATION EASEMENT THOSE GO IN PERPETUITY.AND THEY RESTRICT ANY TYPE OF REZONING AND ON THE RECREATION SIDE TO PROTECT THOSE WE CAN DO WHAT WE CALL RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS KNOWN AS DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WILL RESTRICT THE USE OF PROPERTY FROM ANY OTHER TYPE OF USE OTHER THAN RECREATION PURPOSES.
ANY OBJECTION TO WORKING ON THAT?
>> SO ARE CONSERVATION ARE WE INTO CONSERVATION EASEMENTS?
PRIVATE PROPERTY WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.
>> AND STAFF INCLUDING ME DO NOT DISAGREE.
SECOND IS THIS WAS AT THE REQUEST OF VICE MAYOR KRIEGER DURING MY EVALUATION AND THAT WAS TO LOOK FOR ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE IGNORED AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT IN ADDITION I TOOK THAT TO ME THE ENTIRE CODE OF ORDINANCES NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED WERE PREEMPTED ORDINANCES SOMETHING IN THE PAST THE LAST TIME YOU DID IT WAS 12 YEARS AGO AND HE PAID A PRETTY PENNY TO HAVE HIM GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE CODE AND WE NEED TO DO MORE THAN THAT THERE WERE ORDINANCES I HAVE NEVER SEEN AND WHAT I HAVE DONE IS I FORMED A COMMITTEE AND ON THAT COMMITTEE IS CAPTAIN DAVID BISHOP AND OUR STAFF PEOPLE THAT DEAL WITH OUR ORDINANCES ALL THE TIME.
CAPTAIN DAVID BISHOP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
JACOB PLATT FROM PLANNING MICHELLE FORSTER CODE ENFORCEMENT MYSELF AND OUR LEGAL ASSISTANT WE HAVE FORMED A COMMITTEE WE HAVE BROKEN UP THE CODE AND WE EACH HAVE FROM 7 TO 9 CHAPTERS IN THE CODE THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH AND WE WILL
[02:55:05]
MEET ONCE A MONTH WE SHOULD HAVE THE WORK DONE IN THE SUMMER AND WE WILL BE BRINGING TO YOU WHAT CODE CHANGES WE HAVE.MOSTLY HOUSEKEEPING, NOTHING SUBSTANTIVE AND THE THIRD THING IS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THE LAWSUIT RECOGNIZED AGAINST ROYAL AIR FREIGHT INCORPORATED WHICH IS A MICHIGAN CHARTER AIRPLANE COMPANY THEY SPILLED FUEL.
ONE OF THEIR AIRPLANES FOR SPILLED FUEL WILL THEY WERE PARKED ON THE PARKING APRON AND IT CAUSED $10,000 WORTH OF DAMAGE THEY DID NOT REPLY TO EITHER OF MY NASTY LETTERS ASKING THEM TO PAY THAT OR THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY FILED A LAWSUIT IN THE DAY AFTER THEY GOT SURVEY SENT A CHECK FOR ALL THE DAMAGES SO WE WILL BE REIMBURSED HI SAY IN FULL FOR THOSE DAMAGES AND I HAVE AN OUTSIDE FIRM HELPING GET THE TIMELY COMPLAINT FILED AND THAT WILL PROBABLY BE A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS THAT IS IT ON TOP OF OUR DAMAGES.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CITY CLERK.
[14. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]
I RECEIVED AN EMAIL I THINK EVERYBODY RECEIVED IT BUT I WANT TO MAKE THIS PUBLIC IT WAS A THANK YOU NOTE FROM A HAPPY CUSTOMER WHO WAS HERE CITY EMPLOYEES DO A CRAPPY JOB WHILE I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE WHOLE THING BUT IT HAD TO DO WITH EMPLOYEE JOE EVANS WHO CAME OUT HE HELD THEM OUT AND JUST READ THE LAST PARAGRAPH.I'M SURE YOU HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ALL TOO OFTEN A SINCERE THANK YOU AND APPRECIATION FOR OUTSTANDING WORK PERFORMANCE GOES UNNOTICED AND UNREWARDED I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE JOE WAS NOT MISSED AND THANK YOU FOR EMPLOYING SUCH A TERRIFIC PROFESSIONAL.
JUST A SHOUT OUT TO HIM PERSONALLY AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER EMPLOYEES WITH THE CITY WHO DO A FANTASTIC JOB.
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL WAY TO START OFF OUR MEETING THINKING OF CHARLES ALBERT AND PATRICIA THOMPSON AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT WAS AN AWESOME AWARD CEREMONY TO START OUT OUR MEETING THIS EVENING.
>> MEETING NUMBER FIVE FOR ME I AM STILL EXCITED TO BE HERE.
[LAUGHTER] SUE MIKE YOU ARE YOUNG.
>> BRADLEY AND I Â" AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH READING THIS LAST THURSDAY FOR THIS PAST SATURDAY WAS A GIVEAWAY WHICH.
[INDISCERNIBLE] A MAJOR PART OF IT AND HE IS GOING TO BE HERE ON 16 MARCH TO DO A PRESENTATION AND THAT'S IT.
I JUST HAVE ONE, TO CLOSE WITH.
AND WE HAVE ALL DRIVEN HIGHWAY 200 AND NOW IT WELL.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE AND WE HAVE A SUCCESS STORY WITH RUNWAY FOUR-Â" WHICH WAS COMPLETED WAY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
AND THIS LANDMARK PROJECT WAS UNDER BUDGET AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE DUE TO THE TEAMWORK OF THE CITY PROJECTS TEAM THE NEWLY REHABILITATED RUNWAY WILL ALLOW THE CITY'S AIRPORT TO BETTER SERVE ITS CLIENTS AND COMMUNITY ENLARGED BY INCREASING SAFETY AS FAR AS AIRPORT TENANTS AND BUSINESSES AND THE PROJECT WAS FUNDED BY Â" SO WELL DONE AIRPORT STAFF.
AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.