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LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD FEBRUARY 10 MEETING.
>>JOHN BOYLAN: HERE. >>MARK BENNETT: HERE.
>>PETER STEVENSON: HERE. >>VICTORIA ROBAS: HERE.
>>BARBARA GINGHER: HERE. >>JENNY SCHAFFER: HERE.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: HERE. WE HAVE A QUORUM.
EVERYBODY STAND AND WE WILL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
]PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >>GENECE MINSHEW: BEFORE WE GET INTO THE MEAT OF THE AGENDA, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO ADD. UNDER BOARD BUSINESS, WE NEED TO ADD A 5.2 BECAUSE WE NEED TO ELECT -- OUR ANNUAL ELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR. AND UNDER 6.2, LET'S DO A BEACH COMMITTEE -- A BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE REPORT.
MEMBER ROBAS. AND WE ALSO NEED A TREE NEUTRAL PLAN UPDATE FROM THE STAFF AND THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THE NEW REQUIREMENT THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN US TO BY THE COMMISSION.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO DO IN TERMS OF CHANGES.
[3. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES]
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 13 MINUTES. WE HAVE THESE ON THE AGENDA LAST MONTH. MEMBER STEVENSON POINTED OUT SOME CORRECTIONS. THEY HAVE BEEN CORRECTED AND UPDATED. I WOULD OFFER -- I WOULD HEAR AMOTION TO APPROVE. >> I WILL MAKE MOTION TO
APPROVE AS WRITTEN. >> IS THERE A SECOND.
>> SECOND. >>GENECE MINSHEW: IF I QUESTIONS, CONVERSATION OR COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED.
ALL RIGHT, THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED, YAY.
[4. NEW BUSINESS]
NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.AS WE KNOW THE TREE CONSERVANCY HAS HAD A PEOPLE WORKING ABOUT A YEAR NOW ON UPDATE AND CHANGES, PROPOSALS TO THE C CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND SO THEY ARE AT THE POINT WHERE THEY ARE READY TO TALK ABOUT FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND DISCUSSION. SO WITH THAT, MARGARET KIRKLAND IS GOING TO GIVE US A T TEN-MINUTE REPORT.
AND THEN WE WILL HOLD OUR QUESTIONS UNTIL THE END IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM. MISS KIRKLAND, WELCOME.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR TEAM.
>> THANK YOU. IF ANYONE CAN'T HEAR ME, LET ME KNOW. I AM MARGARET KIRKLAND, 1377 PLANTATION POINT DRIVE. I THINK I NEED TO DO THAT.
YEAH, THIS IS -- WHAT YOU HAVE IS THE HARD COPY.
YOU ALSO HAVE AT DIGITAL COPY OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PLAN.
IT IS A WORKING DRAFT. THIS IS -- IT IS NOT PROPOSED AS A FINAL DRAFT, BUT IT IS TO STIMULATE DISCUSSION.
AND WHAT I WANT TO DO TODAY IS TO FOCUS ON THE -- SOME OF THE TOP-LEVEL THOUGHTS THAT HAVE DRIVEN THE WORK THAT THIS GROUP HAS DONE. WE STARTED OFF FOCUSING MAINLY ON OUR CONTACT, THE HAZARDS, SEA LEVEL RISE AND ALONG WITH THE THOUGHT WE NEED TO TAKE IT A STEP OR TWO ABOVE THE 2011 PLAN IN ADDRESSING THAT. CERTAINLY THE REST OF THE STATE IS DOING THAT. AND SO THEN WE STARTED FOCUSING ON RESILIENCE AND SUSTAINABILITY AND IN THE BEGINNING, I THINK WE WERE MOSTLY FOCUSING ON ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE.
NOW WE ARE FOCUSING ON ALL OF IT.
THE FIRST DEFINITION THAT YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE IS FROM THE
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U. N., AND THAT IS ACTUALLY IN MULTIPLE PLACES IN THE 2011 PLAN. WE LIKE THE SECOND DEFINITION A LOT BECAUSE IT IS MORE -- MORE SPECIFIC.THE INTEGRATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, SOCIAL EQUITY AND ECONOMIC VITALITY IN ORDER TO CREATE THRIVING, HEALTHY, DIVERSE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES FOR THIS GENERATION AND GENERATIONS TO COME. THE PRACTICE IS SUSTAINABILITY.
RECOGNIZES HOW THESE ISSUES ARE INTERCONNECTED AND REQUIRES A SYSTEMS APPROACH AND AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF COMPLEXITY.
AND THIS IS SORT OF, IN A N NUTSHELL, IS WHERE WE MOVED WITH THIS. OUR SOCIAL OF SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY IS NO LONGER FOCUSED ONLY ON ENVIRONMENTAL, BUT THE INTERRELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ENVIRONMENTAL, SOCIAL, AND ECONOMICS SUSTAINABILITY. THE TRADITIONAL NOTION THAT YOU KNOW IS MORE OR LESS, OKAY, IT'S GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
OR IT IS GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY, BUT THEN IT IS BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND SO ON. A ZERO SUM GAME.
AND WE WANT TO MOVE BEYOND THAT WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE LOOK AT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INTERRELATIONSHIPS OF THOSE THINGS. AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN USE AS A PRINCIPLE MOVING FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS.
OF COURSE IT ALL DEPENDS ON INPUT FROM MANY OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. ANOTHER CONCEPT THAT I THINK IS -- IS USEFUL TO THINK ABOUT IS WHAT IS AN ASSET? OKAY, WHAT IS AN ASSET IN TERMS OF HAVING MONETARY VALUE.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE CRITICAL VALUE FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED.
ONE IS ALL OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES.
WE HAVE CHANGED THE TERM FROM ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE TO ENVIRONMENTAL ASSET. OUR BEACHES, OUR DUNES, OUR WATERWAYS, AND OUR TREE CANOPY AND SO ON.
THESE ARE REASONS WHY MANY OF US LIVE HERE.
WHETHER WE ARE FROM OLD FAMILIES OR JUST MOVED DOWN.
THE REASON WHY PEOPLE VISIT. SO THEY ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR ECONOMY. ALSO, THE CONCEPT OF CHARACTER.
LIKE ED MCMAHON CALLED SENSE OF PLACE, WHETHER IT IS HIST HISTORICAL, IT'S ARTISTIC. IT IS JUST QUIRKY CHARACTER OF THE TOWN. THOSE THINGS HAVE VALUE IN OUR ECONOMY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT MEMORABLE.
THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT A NICE PLACE TO BE, A FUN PLACE TO BE.
THAT IS WHAT MAKES PEOPLE STAY OR COME BACK.
SO THAT IS A CONCEPT THAT FOR US IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER. MOVING FORWARD.
I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING HERE.
FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE, BUT I AM GOING TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENCE THAT WE THINK IS IMPORTANT.
OF COURSE, UNDER A HEARD THIS FROM ME A THOUSAND TIMES.
WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF LAND CONSERVATION AND PROTECTING CRITICAL AREAS AND WE THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT TO -- AS MUCH AS WE CAN. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU DO TOMORROW OR NEXT WEEK. IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU PLAN IN YOUR LONG-TERM PLANNING AND YOU DO IT INCREMENTALLY MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT IS IMPORTANT.
I WANTED TO MENTION THERE IS -- THERE ARE TWO POSITIONS THAT WE ARE -- THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN THIS PLAN.
ONE OF THEM IS THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGER AND CHIEF RESILIENCY OFFICER. WE ARE SUGGESTING FOR NOW A COMBINATION OF THESE TWO POSITIONS.
WE HAVE A FLOODPLAIN MANAGER. WE DO NOT YET HAVE A CHIEF RESILIENCY OFFICER, ALTHOUGH MANY CITIES IN FLORIDA NOW DO AND THE STATE HAS ONE AND SO ON.
THE REASON WE ARE THINKING OF THIS COMBINATION AND THIS COULD BE A NEW POSITION OR IT COULD BE JUST A RECONFIGURATION OF SOME OF SOMEONE'S JOB RESPONSIBILITIES.
BUT THE REASON WE ARE THINKING OF THIS COMBINATION IS BECAUSE
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THE CONTENT AREAS OF EXPERTISE OF THESE TWO POSITIONS STRONGLY OVERLAP. OKAY.ALSO THE KINDS OF RESPONSIBILITIES THEY HAVE STRONGLY OVERLAP. BOTH OF THEM REQUIRE A LOT OF COORDINATION AMONG DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY AND ALSO COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY, COORDINATION WITH STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES. SO I THINK HAVING THAT COMBINED WOULD MAKE IT VERY EFFECTIVE AND ALSO EFFICIENT.
IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMY, A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT. THE FIRST THING, ANALYZE AND ADAPT TO THE DYNAMICS OF OUR 21ST CENTURY ECONOMY.
WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT MEAN? OKAY.
ECONOMY HAS CHANGED A LOT. IT IS NO LONGER, OH, GEE, A BIG BOX STORE HERE OR A FACTORY THERE.
AND OFTEN THE REVENUES FROM THOSE -- THOSE TYPE OF BUSINESSES GO FILING OUT OF THE COUNTY ELSEWHERE.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED RECENTLY, AND THIS IS -- GOES BACK BEYOND COVID IS A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LIVING WHERE THEY WANT TO LIVE AND THEY WORK FROM THERE. THEY MAY WORK REMOTELY.
THEY MAY START THEIR OWN SMALL BUSINESS.
THEY MAY BE HAVE AN AT-HOME BUSINESS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE DYNAMICS HERE.
BUT WE NEED DATA ON THIS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY ECONOMICALLY. BECAUSE THAT HAS CHANGED A LOT.
WE ALSO KNOW HOW THAT WE HAVE LIVED THROUGH THIS MUCH COVID.
WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DIVERSIFY OUR ECONOMY TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE -- WHERE SOME PROBLEMS WILL ARISE. AND THE OTHER POSITION THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS A NEW ONE. EVERYBODY IS GOING TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK, I KNOW. A CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, OKAY. AND THAT SOUNDS HUGE AND SOUNDS LIKE BEYOND WHAT FERNANDINA BEACH CAN HANDLE BUT FERNANDINA BEACH HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY. HAS GROWN DRAMATICALLY.
AND THIS IS -- THIS IS A POSITION THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO PULL TOGETHER NOT JUST REPORT ON THE FINANCIAL, BUT PULLING IN THE ECONOMIC WITH FINANCIALS BOTH MACRO AND MI MICRO. AND BRING IN EXPERTISE OF WHAT WORKS FOR SIMILAR SIZE COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
PROVIDE LEADERSHIP AND L LONG-TERM PLANNING.
NOT FIVE YEARS. IT IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH.
AND ACTUALLY IN THE CURRENT PLAN, IT IS A 20-YEAR PLANNING AND THIS HAVEN'T BEEN DONE. SO LONG-TERM PLANNING AND ALSO WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN THIS COMMUNITY NOWADAYS HAGGLING WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT FINANCIAL POLICIES.
ABOUT FINANCIAL PLANS. AND MAYBE HAVING SOME GOOD LEADERSHIP ALONG THAT LINE WOULD -- WOULD HELP A LOT.
YEAH. AND WE THINK THAT THE GOLF COURSE AND MARINA CAN BE NOT JUST SUSTAINABLE BUT PROF PROFITABLE. IF SOMEONE IS ANALYZING THE MARKET NICHE THAT THEY ARE IN. EXPERT MANAGEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY. WE THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT FACTORS. ANOTHER AREA THAT IS NEW TO THIS COMP PLAN, BUT WE THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.
WE PUT IT AS GOAL ONE. BECAUSE WE THINK IT UNDER LIES EVERYTHING ELSE. AND THAT IS PUBLIC TRUST.
WE KNOW FROM THE SURVEYS BY THE NATIONAL RESEARCH CENTER THAT IN 2017 AND 2019, THAT THERE HAS BEEN A DECLINE IN PUBLIC TRUST. AND WE THINK WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND WE DEFINITELY SHOULD, BECAUSE IT IMPACTS EVERYTHING ELSE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE CITY AND THE STAFF DO VERY
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WELL. AND THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAN ENHANCE. THINGS LIKE LIKE EQUITY.THINGS LIKE HOUSING. WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT HOUSING AVAILABILITY FOR ALL SEGMENTS OF OUR -- OUR POPULATION AND NOT JUST SOME. BECAUSE WE ARE LOSING HISTORY.
WE ARE LOSING CULTURE. WE ARE LOSING A LOT WHEN WE ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT GENTRIFICATION IS GOING ON.
IT'S VERY COMPLICATED. WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE SOME OF THESE THINGS AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE TO IMPROVE OUR HANDLING OF THAT. THOSE ARE JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS OF SOME THE THINGS THAT ARE IN CONSIDERABLE DETAIL IN THE PLAN. AND WE JUST WANTED OUT TO SORT OF HAVE AN OVERVIEW AND UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT IT, WHAT THE LENS IS THAT WE ARE LOOKING THROUGH.
AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
WE WILL BE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION AS THE
PROCESS MOVES FORWARD. >>GENECE MINSHEW: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEFORE WE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.
I KNOW YOU HAVE MANY OF YOUR TEAM HERE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM?
>> OH, YEAH. I WAS GOING TO DO THAT FIRST BUT SO FREAKED OUT ON THE TIME. LORI HAMKEY.
AND ALEXANDER. >>GENECE MINSHEW: THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
>> NOT EVERYBODY COULD BE HERE, BUT THOSE ARE THE HARD CORE.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: SO WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE FROM THE
BOARD FOR MISS KIRKLAND? >> I WILL JUST KIND OF MAKE A GENERAL WHEN WE GET INTO THE, QUOTE, NEW CP 1, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS -- AND THIS DEALS WHERE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER WOULD ENTER THE PIC PICTURE.
I THINK -- I AM NOT BEING NEGATIVE.
I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE A -- A STEEP HILL TO CLIMB.
BUT IT'S -- IT IS APPROPRIATE, I THINK, THAT SOMEONE THREW IT OUT THERE. TO GET THE BALL ROLLING.
SO I THINK THAT SOME OF THE THINGS WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT IS. SAY ANOTHER STAFF PERSON WITHIN THE STRUCTURE OF THE CITY. WHAT IS THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND SO FORTH. THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE ANSWERED AND I WOULD COMMEND YOU TO THROW THE IDEA OUT TH
WE HAVE A COMPTROLLER. WHO EFFECTIVELY IS OUR CFO.
AND A QUESTION OF, ARE THERE MORE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT NEED TO GO INTO THAT ORGANIZATION FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE AND WHAT STAFF SUPPORT WOULD THAT PERSON NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, BUT I THINK YOU DO BRING UP VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES PARTICULARLY AROUND DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
VIABILITY FOR THE CITY. >> AND WE REALIZE THAT SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE IN THE PLAN ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO NOW.
SOME OF THEM MAY BE THINGS THAT ARE FOR DOWN THE ROAD, BUT WE
ARE PLANTING SEEDS FOR THOSE. >>GENECE MINSHEW: ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THANK YOU TO YOUR ENTIRE TEAM FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGHOUT CAMP PLAN CHANGES OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, WE WILL ALL BE VALUED MEMBERS AND IN THAT COVERINGS.
AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY.
[5. BOARD BUSINESS]
DO WE HAVE SOME BOARD BUSINESS? JAKE, DO YOU WANT TO TALK OFTHE TRACKER. >> WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE BOARD TRACKER. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR HAD ANY INQUIRIES ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR PROJECTS GOING ON. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THAT I CAN. >>GENECE MINSHEW: I NOTICED ON THE TRC, SOME DEVELOPMENT GOING ON THE CORNER OF 14TH AND
>>GENECE MINSHEW: AND LIME, SORRY.
>> THE VINTAGE AMELIA APARTMENTS THAT GOT CONSTRUCTED A COUPLE YEARS AGO. A COMMERCIAL OUTPARCEL AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF 14TH AND LIME STREET.
THEY SUBDIVIDED THAT PARCEL IN TWO AND THE PERSON SIDE IS
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BEING DEVELOPED AND THROUGHOUT SITE PLAN FOR A DOLLAR GENERAL STAND-ALONE RETAIL BUILDING AND ASSOCIATED PARKING LOT.THE EAST SIDE IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW FOR MEDICAL OFFICE AT THAT VERY NORTHEAST CORNER. WITH THE ASSOCIATED PARKING AND EVERYTHING THERE. THAT PARCEL WAS DEVELOPED OR ENGINEERED WITH STORMWATER INTEGRATED INTO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. SO THERE WON'T BE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL STORMWATER PONDS. THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GETS STORMWATER TO THE VINTAGE PONDS AND THOSE PROJECTS ARE IN THE
RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ON 14TH. >> THE CORNER OF SOUTH 14TH STREET AND DATE, THERE IS -- THAT SECTION OF TOWN IS -- ACTUALLY INTERESTING. YOU MIGHT KNOW -- A LOT OF YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF 25 X 100-FOOT LOTS OF RECORD ON OUR WATERFRONT DATING BACK TO 1 1857-1901 PLAT AND CITY GRID.
THERE ARE OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY AND ONE ON SOUTH 14TH STREET HAVE 25-FOOT UNDERLYING LOTS OF RECORD AND A PROPOSAL COMING THROUGH -- IT IS ALMOST WRAPPED UP ALMOST WITH -- LIKE ROW HOUSES. SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
AND THE SINGLE ACCESS OFF OF THE DAY STREETS SO YOU DON'T END UP WITH DRIVEWAY CUTS BUT REAR ACCESS WITH A NICE USABLE FRONT PORCH. AND THAT IS WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW AND SHOULD BE FAIRLY SOON BEFORE THEY WRAP UP THEIR REVIEW. YES, MA'AM.
OFFICE BUILDING. >> OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AROUND 15,000 SQUARE FEET. FAIRLY LARGE.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER PROPERTIES FARTHER DOWN 14TH STREET. THE PARCEL WE JUST ANNEXED, WE ARE IN DISCUSSION WITH THEM A AND.
FOR THEM SUBMITTING TO SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR MEDICAL OFFICE AND SURG CENTERS. AND A MEDICAL NODE WHICH MAKES SENSE CLOSE TO THE HOSPITAL ON SOUTH 14TH STREET.
>> AND NOT RIGHT AT THE HOSPITAL.
SO IT IS A NORMAL PROGRESSION TO SEE THAT.
BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE SHOPPING MALLS -- STRIPS ON 14TH STREET HAVE A BUNCH OF MEDICAL STUFF. THE BINK ONE.
>> THEY DO. I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JAKE?
>> YES, SIR. >> THE TOWN HOUSES DOWN THERE NORTH OF ALOHA BAGEL. ARE THOSE STILL JOGGING ALONG WITH. HAVE THEY GOTTEN FINAL DESIGNS
LOOKED LIKE THEY WRAPPED UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT AND THE ROTE AND UTILITIES.
THEY SUBMITTED A INITIAL BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE NORTHWEST CORNER PARCEL WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD THEIR MODEL. THEY SUBMITTED FOR BUILDING PERMITS. WE HAD REVIEW COMMENTS.
THEY SUBMITTED ANOTHER COMPLETE REDESIGN.
TALKED THROUGH THAT REL RELATIONSHIP TO OUR 8TH STREET DESIGN STANDARDS. AND THEN -- I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN THINKING OF GIVING THEM A CALL BECAUSE THEY KIND OF WENT RADIO SILENT ON ME. I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS. JUST -- NO BUILDING PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED YET THERE BUT I ANTICIPATE VERY SHORTLY WE
WILL SEE -- >>GENECE MINSHEW: DO YOU WANT TO MENTION ALSO THE TOWNHOUSES ARE GOING IN UP FURTHER UP -- DOWN 14TH STREET NEAR THE OLD FAMOUS AMOS.
BEHIND -- IN FRONT OF WHERE PAISLEY BAKERY IS?
>> THERE IS -- THERE ARE FOUR TOWN HOME UNITS FARTHER DOWN IN THE 1000 BLOCK ON THE EAST SIDE OF WHERE PAISLEY GRACE -- RIGHT BY ROTTEN BRANCH A GRASSY PARCEL THERE.
THAT IS ACTUALLY ANOTHER SECTION NOT TIED WITH THE SAME ON SOUTH 14TH STREET BUT ANOTHER NODE OF 25 X 100-FOOT PLATT LOTS OF RECORDS AND A SEPARATE GROUP IS DEVELOPING FOR TOWN HOMES THERE. TWO TWO-UNIT BUILDINGS.
WE ARE SEEING THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF 8TH STREET.
THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT IN 2016 IS TAKEN OFF WITH THESE
COUPLE OF PROJECTS. >> THOSE UNITS WILL HAVE REAR ACCESS AND THERE WILL BE NO CURB CUTS ON 14?
THEY WILL HAVE REAR LOADED GARAGES AND ACCESS.
INGRESS AND EGRESS EASEMENT WITH THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY TO ROBIN BRANCH. THEY WILL UTILIZE THAT AND COME IN THE BACK. SO WE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY OF ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAYS ON 8TH STREET WHICH IS NICE.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: ANY MORE QUESTIONS?
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>> YES, MA'AM. ON THE PROJECT THAT IS ON 8TH STREET THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, ALL THOSE HOMES WHERE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MUCH ACTIVITY RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY GET A PERMIT TO DO THE BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE WORK AND THEN THEY NEGOTIATE ABOUT WHAT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND ALL THE SET-BACKS AND EVERYTHING? HOW IS IT THAT THEY CAN GET SO FAR ALONG AND THEN IT --
>> HOUR, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT AND EXPLAIN THAT PROCESS. SO THEY CAME THROUGH OUR TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLACE WHICH IS BASICALLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN WHICH IS THE UTILITY, ROADWAY ACCESS. AND THAT TIME CHECKING MINIMUM LOT WIDTH, DENSITY, IMPERVIOUS MAKING SURE THEY MEET OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN AND TEE PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS AND THAT'S WHERE THE LOTS GET ENGINEERED AND DESIGNED AND WHERE THEY COMFORT PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD FOR THAT ENGINEERING REVIEW, AND THAT COMES BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR VIEWING. IT IS KIND OF IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY'S TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
ONCE THAT IS FLUSHED OUT AND THEY HAVE THE LAYOUT FINALIZED.
IT CALLS FOR THE FINAL PLAT REVIEW WHICH CODIFIES THAT LOT LAYOUT AND COMES TO THE CITY COMMISSION AS FAR AS A RESOLUTION FOR APPROVAL. AND NO POINT IN THAT -- ANY SUBDIVISION DESIGN FOR LAYOUT THAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY DO WE REQUIRE THAT THEY PROVIDE -- OR DO WE ANALYZE THEIR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN FOR RE REVIEW.
THEY ARE FOULING UNDER THE DESIGN THEY HAVE HEIGHT LIMITATIONS. SETBACKS COMING OUT ON THE ENGINEERING PLANS AND DEFINE THAT'S ENVELOPE.
IT DOESN'T LOCK IN THE ARCHITECTURAL COMPONENT.
SO THAT'S WHEN THEY -- AFTER THEY GET THEIR APPROVAL FROM THE CITY COMMISSION, GET FINAL APPROVAL FROM THE CITY'S TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE THEY CAN THEN SUBMIT A SITE WORK INFRASTRUCTURE PERMIT WHICH ALLOWING WHILE THEY ARE FL FLUSHING OUT THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN TO GET INFRASTRUCTURE TO CONNECT TO UTILITIES. TO BUILD THEIR ROADS WHATEVER IT MAY BE TO SOLVE THEIR UTILITIES AND ONCE THAT IS COMPLETED OR ANY POINT DURING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION, THEY WILL PERMIT THEIR BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHICH THEN GETS TO OUR DEPARTMENT WE REVIEW ALONG WITH SUBSEQUENT REVIEW THROUGH
THE REVIEW CHAIN. >>GENECE MINSHEW: THAT'S WHERE
WE ARE? >> THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT ITEM IS -- SO AT THE LAST MEETING, THE BOARD RECOMMENDED THAT MR. STEVENSON AND I BE REAPPOINTED AND THAT WENT UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND THEY REAPPOINTED US. SO NOW IT IS TIME -- WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR TO ELECT A CHAIR AND A VICE-CHAIR.
I WOULD SAY THAT IT HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE FOR THESE LAST AND SEVEN MONTHS TO BE THE CHAIR. AND WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE IN THAT ROLE FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR.
AND THEN WOULD BE HAPPY TO STEP ASIDE, BUT I HAVE A FEW MORE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO GET ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR.
SO IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION OR OTHER NOMINATIONS. MR. STEVENSON?
>>PETER STEVENSON: IF WE MAKE A MOTION.
CAN WE MAKE IT FOR BOTH POSITIONS OR EACH --
>>GENECE MINSHEW: YOU CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.
MR. STEVENSON? >>PETER STEVENSON: I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT MISS MINSHEW AND MISS SCHAFFER.
UN. >>GENECE MINSHEW: S A CHAIR AND JENNY SCHAFFER AS VOICE CHAIR.
>>JENNY SCHAFFER: SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WE WILL VOTE. EVERYONE IN FAVOR SAY AY.
OPPOSED. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE IN ME. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE A BUNCH OF STUFF TO DO. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT STAFF
[6. STAFF REPORT]
REPORTS. THE FIRST ONE IS THE UPDATE ON THE WGI NEGOTIATIONS. KELLY, DO YOU WANT TO COVER THAT, YOU AND TAMMY, WHENEVER -->> I CAN SPEAK ON IT VERY BRIEFLY.
LAST SIX WEEKS OR SO WE PROVIDED A SCOPE OF WORK TO WGI TO COMMENT BACK ON, REFINE, IN KEEPING WITH THE DIRECTION WE
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PROVIDED TO THEM WHICH IS INITIALLY TO HAVE A VISIONING EFFORT THROUGHOUT END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THAT -- FROM WHAT IS THAT VISIONING COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE BROADER SET OF GOALS.WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO.
SO I AM WAITING TO GET COST ESTIMATE.
THE REVISE THE COPE HAS BEEN PROVIDED BACK TO US WITH TIME FLAMES ARE PRETTY MUCH ACCOMPLISHING THE COMPONENT BY OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR. AND THEN AS SOON AS I GET THE COST, I WILL FORWARD ALL OF IT FOR YOU FOR YOUR REVIEW AND IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK ASK FOR YOU TO WRITE
IN TO US INDIVIDUALLY. >>GENECE MINSHEW: DO WE HAVE A DATE WHEN THEY ARE DUE BACK FROM THEM?
>> I WILL ASK FOR THEM TO HAVE IT BACK US TO BY FRIDAY.
AND THERE WERE HOPES TO HAVE IT FOR YOU THIS EVENING.
>> MADAM CHAIR, DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THIS VISIONING YET?
>> NOTHING ESTABLISHED OR ACTUAL DATES FOR THE ACTI ACTIVITIES. A RANGE OF AXTIVITY.
NOT JUST A -- >> IS THIS SIMILAR TO THE EAR
>> THIS INITIAL BRUSH OF IT WILL BE MUCH BROADER RANGE OF ACTIVITIES. YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT THE OVERALL VISION FOR THE CITY IN THE NEXT 20, 25 YEARS.
AND FROM THAT, IT WILL HOP HOPEFULLY ESTABLISH THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHETHER IT IS CHANGES TO THE COMP PLAN, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, OPERATIONAL CHANGES, THAT TYPE OF THING. BUDGETING, THOSE TYPE OF CHANGES THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN THE LAST COUPLE OF VISIONING SESSIONS HAPPENED JUST SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED A
COUPLE OF OTHER TIMES. >> IT HAS.
THE CITY WENT THROUGH A VISIONING THE 90S.
THE LATE 90S TO DEFINE IT. TWO DOCUMENTS, VISION 2000 AND THAT SHOWED THE ESTABLISHED VALUES AT THAT TIME.
NOW THAT 2020 IS OVER AND WE ARE 2021, IT IS TIME TO REVISIT THAT. SOMETHING THAT WAS DEFINITELY ON OUR RADAR PREVIOUSLY AND ESPECIALLY IN PREPARATION BEFORE OUR E. A. R. WORK. IDEALLY WE WOULD TAKE DOWN THIS EFFORT IN 2017-2018 TO PREPARE FOR THE E. A. R. WORK BUT NOT SOMETHING PRIORITIZED AT THAT TIME.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: SO WHILE YOU ARE STANDING THERE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK -- YOU OR JAKE ABOUT THE PORT SUBCOMMITTEE.
>> I'LL LET JAKE TAKE THIS ONE. >> SO CHAIRMAN MINSHEW, MYSELF, KELLY, TAMMY AND MISS MARIAN HILL, OCEAN PORT AUTHORITY COMMISSIONER MET EARLIE THIS WEEK TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH PICKING THAT PORT ELEMENT OR -- THE PORT FACILITY ELEMENT OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PICKING THAT UP TO ADDRESS THE -- THE -- THE STAGNANT SITUATION WITH IT NOT GETTING INCORPORATED INTO THE COASTAL CONSERVATION AS A SUB ELEMENT AND COASTAL CONSERVATION ELEMENT.
SO WE WERE CONCERNED, ONE. THE GOAL OF PICKING THAT BACK UP, DOING SO IN A CORDIAL RELATIONSHIP THAT WE ULTIMATELY CULMINATE THIS WORK WITH A MEETING BETWEEN THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND THE PORT AUTHORITY.
THE GOAL IS TO HAVE OUR SUBCOMMITTEE MEET FOR THE FIRST TIME AT OUR PLACE HOLDER MEETING THAT FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH. WITH THE FIRST MEETING OCCURRING ON THE 24TH OF FEBRUARY.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: WHICH WE HAVE NOT NOTICED YET.
>> WE HAVE NOT NOTICED YET AND HAVE SENT SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS -- PROVIDE ALL OF THE HISTORY AND DOCUMENTS AND PATCHWORK THAT THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND THE MASTER PLAN THAT THE PORT HAS DONE AND SOME LONG THEY HAD PROPOSED.
PROVIDE ALL THAT SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS.
AND WE WANTED TO HAVE A STRONG GOAL AND TIMELINE AT OUR JANUARY 24 MEETING SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE ACCOMPLISH AND HOW WE ATTEMPT TO GET THERE. AND LIKE I SAID, WE LOOK
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FORWARD TO PICKING THIS DOCUMENT THAT IS REQUIRED TO GET INCORPORATED INTO THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT AND FINALLY GETTING THAT ACCO ACCOMPLISHED TO ADDRESS THAT STATE STATUTE. AND, AGAIN ROAR WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PORT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND PROVIDE LANGUAGE THAT IS CONSISTENT AND ACCEPTABLE TO BOTH THE CITY ANDTHE PORT. >> AS A REMINDER, THE SENATE MEMBER BENNETT, ROBAS, STEVENSON AND MYSELF.
EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS.
THEY WILL BE DONE AS SPECIAL MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS.
I WILL TELL THAT YOU WE MET ON MONDAY WITH COMMISSIONER HILL, BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, WE WERE CONCERNED OF THIS BEING A BIG WASTE OF TIME. AND SPINNING OUR WHEELS.
SHE WAS CONFIDENT THAT THERE WAS MIDDLE GROUND TO BE FOUND AND THAT SHE WAS ENCOURAGING AND VERY EXCITED TO WORK WITH THE PAB IN A COLLEGIAL MANNER. SO WE DECIDED TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS WORK. WE HAVE PRETTY LOW EXPECTATIONS OF HOW DETAIL WE WANT TO PUT INTO THIS.
AND AS MUCH OF ANYTHING, IT IS REALLY OF GETTING A BASELINE FRAMEWORK TOGETHER THAT ADDRESSES SOME OF THE MAJOR ISSUE THAT'S PRIMARILY HAVE TO DEAL WITH WETLANDS AND FLOOD PLAINS. SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES SO WE LEFT THE MEETING MORE ENCOURAGED THAN WHEN WE STARTED A LEAST I DID. AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE GOOD PROGRESS IN THIS AREA AND FOUND A COMMISSIONER WHO WANTS TO WORK WITH US SO WE CERTAINLY SHOULD EXTEND THAT OPPORTUNITY AS MUCH AS WE CAN LIKELY TO WANT TO GET THROUGH THIS IN THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS. NO REASON FOR THIS TO DRAG ON FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND GET THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO I THINK IT WAS A GOOD
MEETING AND -- YES, SIR. >> DRUG TO PROVIDE US THE DOCUMENT THAT THE PLANNING BOARD SUBMITTED TO THE
COMMISSION. >> ABSOLUTELY, THE 2016 --
>> WHEN CAN WE GET THOSE DOCUMENTS?
>> I WILL GET THAT TO YOU TOMORROW.
THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 24TH? >> WE WILL HAVE THAT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING FEBRUARY 24, 5:00 HERE IN THIS ROOM.
>> IT WILL BE HERE? >>GENECE MINSHEW: YES, SIR.
SO WE -- THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HOLDS THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY AS A PLACEHOLDER SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE IT FOR SPECIAL MEETINGS, WORKSHOPS OR WHATEVER.
AND WE WILL UTILIZE THAT BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLICLY NOTICED MEETING. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT OTHER PORT COMMISSIONERS MAY BE IN ATTENDANCE AT CERTAIN TIMES, AND IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT IS PUBLIC NOTICE AND OPEN
TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: YES, MA'AM? >> WE WOULD THINK -- IT STARTS AT 5:00. WE ARE THINKING THIS OF BEING A
TWO-HOUR MEETING. >>GENECE MINSHEW: NO MORE T
THAN. >> AND A SERIES OF THREE OR FOUR MEETING ON THAT SAME FOURTH WEDNESDAY?
>> YES, MA'AM, THAT WAS THE PLAN.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: I THINK WE WILL ALL GO AWAY WITH HOMEWORK.
>> THIS IS, LIKE, ONCE A MONTH AS OPPOSED TO EVERY WEEK.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: YES, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT EVERY WEEK.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO WORK OUT AT THE FIRST MEETING HOW OFTEN THEY THINK THEY NEED TO MEET. DO WE NEED TO MEET TWICE A MONTH. WE DON'T NEED TO MEET EVERY WEEK. DO WE NEED TO MEET ONCE A MO MONTH. DO WE NEED TWICE A MONTH.
AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE THINK WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH BETWEEN THEN AND NOW AND HOW MUCH TIME -- HOW MUCH OF THAT CAN WE DO OFF LINE AND COME TOGETHER AS A GROUP AND HASH OUT DETAILS. I MEAN, YOU CAN SILT AT HOME ON THE COMPUTER AND RED-LINE DOCUMENTS AND THE STAFF CAN TAKE PEOPLE'S COMMENTS AND PUT THEM TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK TOGETHER AND WE ARE ACTUALLY MAKING DECISIONS.
>> CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? >>GENECE MINSHEW: YES, SIR.
>> HAVE WE SUBMITTED TO THE PORT WITH PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD? I NEED TO ASK WHAT WAS THEIR REACTION? DID THEY HAVE ANY REACTION? NONE? OKAY.
JUST SO THE BOARD KNOWS A LOT OF WORK THAT WAS PUT INTO THAT
DOCUMENT. >>GENECE MINSHEW: BUT NEVER
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WENT ANYWHERE, RIGHT? IS IT DIDN'T GO TO THE CITYCOMMISSION -- >> IT CAME TO THE PAB.
>> WE CAN THIS ON THE 24TH. >> DID GO TO THE PAB AND THE CITY COMMISSION ON TWO DIFFERENT OCCASIONS BECAUSE YOU WRAPPED UP AROUND AUGUST OF 2016.
IT WAS CONSIDERED, I BELIEVE, IN LATE SEPTEMBER OF THAT SAME YEAR. AND IT WAS REINTRODUCED AGAIN, I BELIEVE, IN LATE 2018 FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND SOME DIRECTION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE NEEDED TO PICK UP THIS DOCUMENT, START OVER, AND AT THAT POINT, IT WAS DIRECTED TO NOT DO ANYTHING. SO THAT'S IT HAS LANDED SO FAR.
>> MADAM CHAIR. >>GENECE MINSHEW: YES.
>> I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL CERTAINLY AT THAT FIRST MEETING TO HAVE SOME HISTORY OF THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, HOW WE HAVE COME TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. THE DOCUMENTS AS MARK MENTIONED WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT SERIES OF DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKED ON. BUT I -- I THINK TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT -- WHAT THAT HISTORY IS WILL BE HELPFUL
TO -- TO US AS WELL. >>GENECE MINSHEW: JUST LET ME MAKE ONE COMMENT TO MR. STEVENSON.
THERE IS SOME DOCUMENTS AVAILABLE ON THE PORT'S WEB
>>GENECE MINSHEW: AT LEAST LINK TO THOSE AND REFERENCE THEM SO GO TO THE PORT'S WEB SITE TO PULL UP APPROPRIATE INFORMATION. MAYBE YOU CAN TELL US WHICH DOCUMENTS TO BE LOOKING AT ON THEIR WEB SITE AS WELL.
>> ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING THINGS I LEARNED FROM COMMISSIONER HILL THIS WEEK IS THAT THEY ARE ALSO KICKING OFF ANOTHER PROCESS TO DO AN UPDATE TO THEIR MASTER PLAN OR STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH IS REALLY THE STICKING POINT FOR THE COMMISSION BACK IN 2014. WHEN THEY PROVIDE THE STRATEGIC PLAN WE DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE INCORPORATING INTO THE COMP PLAN BY REFERENCE. THERE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WITH ENGAGING FOR THAT AS THEY GO THROUGH THAT
PROCESS AS WELL. >>GENECE MINSHEW: MR.
STEVENSON? >>PETER STEVENSON: I THINK MY QUESTION IS PRETTY WELL ANSWERED.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: BETWEEN NOW AND THE 249 WE HAVE A LOT OF DOCUMENTS TO REVIEW AND WE WILL GET THAT TOGETHER AND THE MEETING NOTICE. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. MISS ROBAS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US A BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE REPORT, UPDATE? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN BUSY.
>>VICTORIA ROBAS: WE HAVE BEEN BUSY.
WE MEET EVERY WEEK. THIS WEEK WE WON'T MEET ON THURSDAY. WE WILL MEET ON FRIDAY.
THERE WAS A CONFLICT WITH THIS ROOM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN MEETING EVERY THURSDAY FROM 1:30 TO SOMETIMES 4:00 TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE BEACH ACCESSES. IT HAS BEEN A PROCESS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST SAW WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT MARGARET'S GROUP HAS MADE. FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE TO ESTABLISH YOUR DEFINITIONS. SO THAT WE ARE ALL SPEAK THE SAME TERMINOLOGY. WE ARE ALL -- WHAT IS A BEACH ACCESS. WHAT IS THE FRONT DUNE.
WE HAVE GONE TO THAT. WE ESTABLISH OUR GUIDELINES, WHICH -- SO IT HELPS US TO DEFINE -- WHEN WE LOOK AT A BEACH ACCESS, WE ARE ALL LOOKING AT IT WITH THOSE SAME DEFINITIONS OF VALUE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, DOES THE WALKOVER GO -- ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE FOUR DUNE OR STOP BEFORE THE FOUR DUNE. DOES THE WALK THROUGH -- LITERALLY A PATH THROUGH -- FREIGHT FROM THE FOUR DUNE WHICH IS A CRITICAL ISSUE FROM A FLOODING PERSPECTIVE, A STORM SURGE. OR DOES IT GO OFF AT DIFFERNT ANGLES TO HELP IN THE PROTECTION OF THE SAND DUNE.
SO IT'S REALLY BEEN A VERY INTERESTING LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ALL OF US. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PHASE WHERE EACH ONE OF US ON THE COMMITTEE PERSONALLY GOES TO EACH BEACH ACCESS. WHETHER IT IS A WALK THROUGH, WHICH JUST MEANS A PATH. OR DO WE -- IT IS A WALK OVER, OBVIOUSLY, IS LIKE A BOARDWALK. SOME ARE SHORT.
SOME ARE LONG. AND SO EACH ONE OF US THEN -- THE WEEK BEFORE, LIKE ON FR FRIDAY, WE HAVE A SET NUMBER.
USUALLY ABOUT TEN BEACH ACCESS THAT'S WE WILL LOOK AT,
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EVALUATE AND COME BACK. WE HAVE A FORM THAT WE ARE FILLING OUT THAT WE ALL MAKE COMMENTS.AND OUR STAFF FOLKS RECORD ALL THAT INFORMATION.
AND THAT GOES -- THAT IS REALLY THE SUMMARY SHEET WE WILL HAVE AT THE END WHICH WILL BE THE 40 BEACH ACCESSES.
EACH ACCESS WILL HAVE A SHEET WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON -- DO WE DO NOTHING? IS IT JUST FINE THE WAY IT IS.
ARE THERE SOME REPAIRS THAT WE ARE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR.
IS THIS A RECOMMENDATION FOR A FUTURE WALKOVER.
AND THEN THE ENGINEERING GROUP IS HELPING US GET SOME IDEAS OF COST SO THAT WE CAN START TO PUT THAT INTO OUR EQUATION.
AND OUR PRISON IS THAT BY MA MARCH, WE WILL BE IN A POSITION TO ACTUALLY START WRITING OUR REPORT.
AND OUR GOAL, WHICH I THINK IS VERY ATTAINABLE, IS THAT BY THE FIRST WEEK IN APRIL, THAT WE SHOULD BE READY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO MR. MARTIN AND SUBMIT OUR REPORT.
THAT IS OUR GOAL. >>GENECE MINSHEW: GOOD JOB.
GOOD FOR YOU. YES, MISS SCHAFFER.
>>JENNY SCHAFFER: I HAVE A QUESTION.
ARE YOU ONLY FOCUSING ON THE WALKOVER ITSELF OR LOOKING AT THE LITTLE PARKING AREA AND TRASH CANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT
TOO? >>VICTORIA ROBAS: IT IS VERY NARROWLY FOCUSED. THE WALKOVER, WALK THROUGH.
YEAH. IT DOESN'T INVOLVE PARKING.
IT IS NOT A DUNE MANAGEMENT STUDY.
IT IS JUST STRICTLY HOW MANY, WHERE, WHAT IS THE PRIORITY AND
HOW MUCH DOES COST. >>JENNY SCHAFFER: NO SIGNAGE,
NOTHING? >>VICTORIA ROBAS: WE MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR REPORTS.
WHEN WE GO LOOK AT -- THAT IS PART OF OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE -- WE THINK SIGN SAGE VERY IMPORTANT.
AND WE WILL SAY IN OUR REPORT THAT PARTICULAR BEACH ACCESS.
THIS NEEDS ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE. THIS NEEDS A BETTER TRASH CAN THAT LOCKS. THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT INFORMATION THEN GOES TO -- TO THE PARKS AND REC GROUP BECAUSE THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY INVOLVED IN THIS WITH US AND THAT WILL BE WITH US AS WELL. AND WILL BE THE WORKSHEET OF DEVELOPING SOME WORK ORDERS AND DEVELOPING THINGS LIKE IN THE
FUTURE. >>GENECE MINSHEW: OFF QUE
QUESTION. >> ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO
CLOSING THE ACCESSES? >>VICTORIA ROBAS: NO.
>> THE REASON I ASK THAT BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE NOT DONE A GOOD JOB OVER OUR LIFETIME OF LOOKING OF THE LIFE CYCLE COST OF BEACH ACCESS. YOU WANT TO REDUCE YOUR COST TO THE CITY, YOU CLOSE A BEACH ACCESS YOU NO LONGER HAVE THE MAINTENANCE. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU SEE THE LOW UTILIZATION AND DON'T HAVE A DECENT RETURN ON INVESTMENT THAT MIGHT BE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE USING THEN SAY DO AWAY WITH IT.
>>VICTORIA ROBAS: WITH DOE NOT ANTICIPATE ELIMINATING ANY WALKOVERS. WE -- WE HAVE -- AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A CRITERIA THAT SAYS WHY WE WILL RECOMMEND PUTTING A WALKOVER -- A NEW WALKOVER IN. AND SO THIS -- THERE IS A LIST OF CRITERIA THAT WE WILL LOOK AT, AND THAT IS -- IS THERE PARKING. THERE -- WHAT ELSE.
IS IT SET SOUP THAT IT FACILITATES A WALKOVER.
ARE THERE ISSUE THAT'S WE NEED TO ADDRESS WITH A WALKOVER.
IS IT HIGHLY USED. THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WILL MAKE US MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD -- WE WOULD RECOMMEND ADDING IT. BUT WE -- THERE IS NO WALKOVER THAT WE ARE GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE DO AWAY WITH.
ALL OF THEM CAN BE MAINTAINED. ALL OF THEM AT THIS POINT CAN BE MAINTAINED. ALL OF THEM JUST REQUIRE ONGOING MAINTENANCE. AND THEN THE PRIORITY THAT IS PLACED ON -- ON THAT MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS WHO IS
YOUR CAPITAL INVESTMENT. >> THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A LIFE CYCLE OF NORMAL MAINTENANCE AND A LIFE CYCLE -- WHERE YOU
REPLACE THE LUMBER. >>VICTORIA ROBAS: INDEED.
>> WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE HORIZON.
>> MISS GINGHER HAD A QUESTION. >>BARBARA GINGHER: TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. YOU ARE NOT LOOKING TO ADD ANY?
>>VICTORIA ROBAS: OH, I THINK THAT -- OUR MINDS ARE VERY
OPEN. >>BARBARA GINGHER: OKAY.
>>VICTORIA ROBAS: AT ADDING WALKOVERS.
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WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND THAT KIND OF THING IS STILL SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING. WE HAVE NOT, YOU KNOW, GOTTEN TO THAT POINT WHERE WE ARE REALLY GETTING INTO SOME DETAILS. THE MAIN THING THAT WE NEED TO KEEP FOCUSED ON IS THAT THE DESIGN, THE XRO SIGNIFICANCES OF THE WALKOVER, YOU KNOW. DOES IT GO NORTH, EAST, SOUTH.ALL THESE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS IS REALLY NOT PART OF WHAT WE ARE ABOUT. IT IS MORE FUNDAMENTAL THAT SAYS DOES A WALK OVER NEED TO BE AT THIS LOCATION AND WHY.
AND THEN IF SO, WHAT IS THE PRIORITY, IS THIS -- NUMBER O ONE, WE GOT TO DO IT THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR OR IS THIS SOMETHING IN THE NEXT FIVE TO TEN YEARS.
AND SO, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT WHOLE BASKET.
THAT IS WHY WE ARE INDIVIDUALLY LOOKING AT EACH ONE OF THESE BEACH ACCESSES TO SAY, THERE MAY BE SOME WALK THROUGHS RIGHT NOW THAT WE MAY SAY, YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS FROM NOW, BECAUSE WE THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE THAT MUCH POPULATION GROWTH.
PEOPLE COMING TO THE BEACH. THIS IS PROBABLY A CANDIDATE IN TEN YEARS FOR A WALKOVER. AND FROM A BUDGETING PERSPECTIVE, WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT.
AND SO AFTER WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND HAVE THE BASKETS OF THESE BEACH ACCESSES AND BEACH WALKOVERS, IS WHEN WE SAY THIS ONE IS A HIGHER PRIORITY BECAUSE -- AND REALLY BEING ABLE TO USE OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES IS THE WAY THAT WE FEEL LIKE -- THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY TO JUSTIFY A VERY EXPENSIVE INVESTMENT IN WALKOVERS.
USING OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE
MAKING THAT PRIORITY LIST. >> THANK YOU.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TREE NEUTRAL GOAL HANDED DOWN TO US BY THE CITY COMMISSIONERS.
>> SO AT RECENT -- JANUARY 27, COMMISSION GOAL SETTING MEE MEETING, ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WAS ESTABLISHED WAS TO REVISIT OUR GOAL FOR TREES. SPECIFICALLY TO BECOME TREE NEUTRAL IS WHAT I BELIEVE IT READS AS.
THIS WILL APPEAR ON THE TUESDAY AGENDA FOR CONSIDERING, I BELIEVE, TO ESTABLISH THESE GOALS.
BUT BY AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, THE CITY MANAGERS TO COME UP WITH A STRATEGY FOR GETTING US TO BE TREE NEUTRAL.
WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE EXACTLY IS A LITTLE UNCLEAR TO ME WHETHER A SERIES OF SOLUTION THAT'S DISCUSSIONS THE INCREASING PLANTING LOOKING BACK AT ORDINANCES FOR REVISIONS, FORMING PARTNERSHIPS. MAY BE A VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES IS THE ONLY WAY I CAN THINK OF. BUT IT DOES ALSO SOUND LIKE THERE IS AN INTEREST IN PERSUING ADDITIONAL CHANGES TO THE CITY'S CURRENT TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCES WHICH BRINGS IT BACK INTO YOUR REALM OF CONSIDERATION.
AND SO I THINK THAT IT IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS BOARD TO THINK ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND WHAT YOU NEED TO BE INTERESTED IN ACHIEVING THAT GOAL BY AUGUST.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: WE WERE THINKING IT WAS T WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE.
TO WORK ON THIS. OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND I THINK THERE DOES TO BE PUBLIC INPUT INTO THIS.
AND AS MUCH AS ANYTHING, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SUBCOMMITTEE WITH A PLAN OF ACTION WITH ACT HISTORY THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
AND I THINK THIS HAS A BIG MARKETING AND COMMUNICATION SEGMENT WITH IT. ALONG WITH CHANGING RULES AND REGULATIONS BUT HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WHOLE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE ABOUT IT TONIGHT, BUT WE WOULD AT THE MARCH MEETING WANT TO LOOK AT PUTTING TOGETHER A GOAL.
SO ANY COMMISSION -- ANY BOARD MEMBERS WHO WERE NOT CURRENTLY SERVING ON A SUBCOMMITTEE MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON
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THIS SUBCOMMITTEE. >> I WOULD NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN EXPLANATION WHAT IS INVOLVED.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS INVOLVED.
THAT IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD DO IS DECIDE WHAT NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED AND HOW YOU WOULD PURSUE IT.
AND WHAT ARE ALL THE COMPONENTS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT WE WOULD THEN COME BACK AND POSSIBLY CHANGE ORDINANCES, POSSIBLY CHANGE LDC CODES.
PUT TOGETHER A COMMUNICATION AND MARKETING PLAN.
HOW DO YOU LITERALLY COUNT WHAT IS GOING ON.
IT IS A BIG PROJECT AND SOME FOLKS NEED TO PUT THEIR HEADS TOGETHER AND FIGURE IT OUT. SO -- Y'ALL THINK ABOUT IT.
AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT NEXT MONTH.
HOW IS THAT? >> I AM INTERESTED.
>> WHAT DID THE COMMISSION -- WHAT WERE THERE WORDS -- HOW DID THEY DHUCH CRITERIA? JUST -- IF YOU HAD 29 TREE
COVER. >> MY UNDERSTANDING -- AND I WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE ENTIRETY OF THE MEETING AND I DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE FIRST HALF OF THE MEETING REALLY AND ONLY HEARD THE END GOAL, AND I THINK SHE CAN SPEAK TO IT BETTER, BUT MY IMPRESSION WANTED TO SEE STANDARDS CREATED AND WOULD YOU NEVER -- IF A TREE COMES DOWN, A TREE GOES BACK.
WHETHER THAT IS FROM -- >> LITERALLY.
>> HAZARD TREE. LIGHTNING STRIKE.
NEEDING TO REMOVE IT FOR DEVELOPMENT IMPACT, BUT ONE TO
ONE EVERY TIME. >> ONE TO ONE ON THE ISLAND.
OR ONE ON ONE ON THE LOCATION. >> THAT IS UP.
>> I THINK THAT -- THAT IS -- THAT IS A -- THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT WILL NEED TO BE FIGURED OUT.
>> WHAT I KNOW BOTH FROM THIS GOAL-SETTING SESSION AND THE COLLECTIVE COMMISSION AND INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS IS SOME CITY COMMISSION -- OR A COUPLE -- HAVE VERY SPECIFIC IDEAS WHAT THEY THINK WILL BE ONE OF THOSE IDEAS IS THAT IF YOU -- I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT HAZARD TREES, BUT THAT IS PROBABLY IN THE CONSIDERATION, BUT CERTAINLY IF TREES ARE CUT DOWN TO MAKE ROOM FOR CONSTRUCTION, WHETHER YOU ARE ADDING A POOL TO YOUR PROPERTY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OR TEAR DOWN AND RECONS RECONSTRUCTION. FOR EVERY INCH THAT YOU TAKE OUT, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE ANOTHER INCH.
NOW WHETHER THAT IS ON THE SAME LOT, THE ENTIRE CITY COMM COMMISSION, EVERY ONE OF THEM, UNDERSTANDS THAT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE TO REPLANT ON THE LOT BUT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT OTHER THINGS. ANOTHER THOUGHT WAS FROM ANOTHER COMMISSIONER, WAS IF WE COLLECTED MONEY TO PUT INTO A TREE TRUST FUND FOR THE CITY, THAT CAN ALSO BE USED TO BUY CONSERVATION LAND. IF FOR SOME REASON YOU CAN'T REPLACE THE TREES ON YOUR LOT. THESE WOULD -- THESE ARE ALL JUST IDEAS SWIRLING AROUND. YOU CAN THINK TOO OF HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DO A BETTER JOB AND HOW THIS MIGHT WORK.
BUT THAT TREE DOWN. WE NEED TO PLANT.
MORE. >>GENECE MINSHEW: SO THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, THIS IS ACTUALLY A BIG PROJECT WITH A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT THROUGH.
GOTTEN PUBLIC INPUT, AND SOME UP WITH -- I WOULD THINK A LAUNDRY LIST OF THESE ARE THE THINGS -- IF YOU DID PLAN A, WOULD YOU HAVE TO DO ALL THESE THINGS.
IF YOU DID PLAN B, YOU WOULD HAVE ALL -- ALL OF PLAN A'S WORK PLUS TEN MORE THINGS. YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT THAT W WAY, AND YOU WOULD OFFER A COUPLE OF OPTIONS TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO SAY WE CAN DO IT THIS WAY, THIS WAY, OR THIS WAY. THEY GET EXPONENTIALLY MORE EXPENSIVE TO THE LANDOWNER, TO THE PERSON WHO WANTS TO CUT DOWN THE TREE. SO WE JUST -- WE NEED -- THERE ARE A LOT OF STUFF TO THINK ABOUT.
>> JUST TO REMIND YOU AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW AND THIS WILL TAKE CREATIVE WORK TO REPLACE THESE LOST INCHES OF TREES IS WE HAVE -- FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, IF IT IS A DANGER TO THE PERSON OR PROPERTY, AND DEAD, DYING, DECAYED, YOU GET AN ARBORIST. YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT OR THE ARBORIST'S REPORT, TREE COMES DOWN.
THOSE WE MAY NOT KNOW UNTIL LATER.
AND A WAY OF BEING ABLE TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO OFFSET THAT AND USUALLY WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
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WE CAN HAVE PAYMENT INTO TREE BANKS, CONSERVATION FUNDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE ARE A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS WE CAN TO DO MAKE UP FOR -- NOT NECESSARILY CHARGE THAT RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNER BECAUSE THE STATE SAYS WE CAN'T, ANDMAKE IT UP SOME PLACE ELSE. >> WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL OF GETTING UP CLOSE TO BERT HARRIS.
AND ALSO INTO PRESERVATION L LAND.
SOME OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE WITH TREE WORK IS BECAUSE CITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE REALLY STRICT REQUIREMENTS.
AND ACTUAL LET LEGISLATURE OVERRODE THEM.
SO -- SO THAT IS A VERY THIN LINE WE WALK THAT WE DON'T DO SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO CAUSE THE STATE TO GET BACK INVOLVED AND WANT TO DO CREATIONS.
A BIG BALANCING ACT. >> WE NEED TO DEFINE WHAT IS A
TREE. >>GENECE MINSHEW: YES DO YOU.
>> AND HAVE TO BE UP FRONT WITH DEVELOPERS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE -- AND SAY, BY THE WAY, BEFORE YOU BUILD.
>> AND WE HAVE WAYS TO -- I MEAN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY STRINGENT TREE ORDINANCE OF DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF.
BUT I CAN TALK ABOUT MY YARD WHICH IS FULL OF TREES.
AND I CAN TAKE TREES -- I CAN TREES DOWN FOR DAYS AND NOT HAVE TO PUT ANY MORE -- AND NOT HAVE ANY PENALTY BECAUSE I HAVE SO MANY OTHER INCHES OF TREES ON MY PROPERTY.
>> THE SAME WOULD BE ON MINE MUCH SMALLER LOT AND WOULD HAVE
SIX TREES. >> SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES AND WHAT IT SAYS.
IT IS A BIG PROJECT. IT HAS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS
AND A LOT OF OPTIONS. >> SUBCOMMITTEE IS A GREAT I
IDEA. >> A SUBCOMMITTEE IS A GREAT
IDEA. >> I WILL KEEP YOU ALL APPRISED TOO WHAT I FIND OUT FROM INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS AND COLLECTIVELY WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE.
>> SO ANYWAY, SO -- IF MISS SCHAFF E IS INTERESTED.
YOU CAN CHAIR THE SUBCOMMITTEE SHAVZ SHAVZ I AM A SPREADSHEET GIRL. YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO LIKES
SPREADSHEETS. >>GENECE MINSHEW: WHAT DOES
THAT MEAN. >>JENNY SCHAFFER: I LOVE
EVERYTHING, PROBLEM, OBSTACLE. >>GENECE MINSHEW: SOUNDS LIKE THE PERFECT CHAIRPERSON FOR A CHAIR COMMITTEE
>> THE SUBCOMMITTEES. I DON'T THINK YOUR BYLAWS PREVENT IT AND I AM NOT SUGGESTING YOU DO IT, BUT IF YOU NEED OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY OR OTHER MEMBERS, YOU CAN ADD THEM TO YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: OR IF WE NEED OTHER CITY STAFF INPUT.
ABSOLUTELY. >> I KNOW I WILL PARTICIPATE
WITH THE PORT. >>GENECE MINSHEW: YES, YOU ARE. SO LET'S THINK ABOUT IT.
AND WE WILL MAKE DECISIONS AND MAKE ASSIGNMENTS AND TALK ABOUT IT AT THE MARCH BOARD MEETING. OKAY.
>> I COULD REGRET THIS, BUT I WILL BE PART OF THAT.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: I KNOW YOU WILL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> AND MR. BOYLAN, TOO, MAYBE.
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHO YOU WORK FOR.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: I THOUGHT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
THE NEXT ITEM AND LAST ONE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND ZONING CHANGES. CAN YOU TELL US HOW WE ARE
GOING TO CLOSE THIS ONE DOWN? >> YES, MA'AM, JANUARY MEETING, WE HAD -- WE DISCUSSED KIND OF -- AND GOT DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD ON WHICH LAND USE AND ZONING CONFLICTS OR NONCONFORMING SITUATIONS THAT THE BOARD WANTED TO ADDRESS.
THE THREE THAT WE DECIDED TO MOVE ON -- OR FOUR WERE THE SURF, THE BEACHSIDE MOTEL, ACROSS FROM THE SURF, THE T TOWNHOMES ON FIRST AVENUE JUST SOUTH OF -- JUST SOUTH OF THE FIRE STATION AND MR. SIMMONS PROPERTIES THERE AT THE CORNER OF SOUTH FLETCHER. AND THEN THERE WERE ITEMS -- WE MADE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE LAND USE MAP THAT CORRECTED THE WEST TRUCK DISCREPANCY AND WAS ABLE TO CORRECT THAT AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS THAT THE BOARD WISHED TO BUTTON IT ALL UP AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE FOUR THAT WE LOOK TO CHANGE AND OFF OFFICIALLY SAY WE ARE CLOSING THE BOOKS ON THE OTHER ONE TO WRAP THIS PROJECT UP. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?
>> WE WILL DO THAT AT THE MARCH MEETING?
>> WE WILL DO THAT AT THE MARCH MEETING.
NOT ON THE AGENDA BUT YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT THE CITY PURCHASED FIVE ACRES OF PROPERTY NORTH OF THE CAPE SOUND TOWN HOME PROJECT, CAPE SOUND DEVELOPMENT.
SO I WANT TO BRING THAT UP. CURRENTLY ZONED R-1, LOW
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DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SINCE WE DID PURCHASE IT WITH THE CONSERVATION TRUST FUND. WE WILL PUT THAT IN CONSERVATION, LAND USE AND ZONING AND PUT THAT BEFORE YOU IN MARCH AS WELL. ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE IN MARCH. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING -- ENTERED A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH GIS SERVICES AND WORKING WITH THEM FOR A NUMBER DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND PULL TOGETHER FOR BEACH ACCESS COMMITTEE AND A WIDE RANGE OF PROJECTS WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM ON AND AN UPDATE AND SHOW YOU THE COOL THINGS THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING NONMARCH AS WELL.>>> ONE QUESTION. >>GENECE MINSHEW: YES, SIR?
>> THE CAPE SOUND PROPERTY. WHAT IS ACCESS TO THAT?
>> ACCENT OFF OF PHEASANT ROAD WHICH IS A COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY
AND A COUNTY SUBDIVISION. >> WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE
STREET? >> PHEASANT, LIKE THE BIRD.
>> I CAN PULL IT UP REAL QUICKLY.
>> THOUGHT THEY WERE READY TO BUILD ON THAT FOR A MINUTE.
>> THERE WERE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH IT TO SAY THE
LEAST. >> NO ONE OUT THERE NOW, IS
WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? >> THERE IS A ROAD.
I WILL PULL IT UP REALLY QUICKLY.
IT ONLY HAS ONE ACCESS POINT FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS.
CAPE SOUND -- >> I SEE PHEASANT LANE.
BUT WHAT ABOUT -- SEEING A BUNCH OF BOATS.
>> LET'S GET IT PULLED UP. >> I WAS JUST LOOKING AT IT THE OTHER DAY AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHERE ACCESS WAS.
>> THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONSTRAINING -- ONE OF THE OBSTACLES FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT FOR BOTH INGRESS AND EGRESS. CITY REQUIREMENTS REQUIRED TWO POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS AND WE REQUIRED THAT YOU CONNECT TO CITY UTILITIES FOR WATER AND SEWER.
SO THIS IS THE PARCEL HERE OVER -- UNDER FIVE AND A HALF ACRES.
>>GENECE MINSHEW: CAN YOU FULL DOWN A BIT TO SEE WHERE
TURN THIS AERIAL ON. >> LATE TO AT MALLARD.
>> I GOT IT. OFF OF BLUE HERON.
>> THROUGH CITRONA. >> THAT IS EGRET.
>> EGRET AND PHEASANT LANE. NO INGRESS OR EGRESS OFF OF DRURY ROAD. CAPE SOUND WAS DEVELOPED INITIALLY WITH A STUB OUT ON THE NORTH SIDE WITH CONNECTION TO CITY WATER AND SEWER. THERE WAS A ISSUE WITH THE DEVELOPER NOT INSTALLING IT ACCORDING TO WHAT THE UTILITY DIRECTOR REQUIRED AND THAT LIST STATION REMAINED PRIVATE AND THAT TOWNHOME GROUP DECIDED NOT TO GRANT ACCESS AND SO ULTIMATELY THE CITY -- IT WAS RECENTLY PURCHASED AND THE CITY PURCHASED THROUGH THE CONSERVATION TRUST FUND.
AND LIKE I SAID, IT CURRENTLY HAS LOW DENSITY R 1, LOW DENSITY THAT WILL ALLOW FOR ONLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH MINIMUM LOT SIZE. LOWER DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL.
BUT WE WANT TO PUT IN CONSERVATION SO THAT WE WILL BE
COMING TO NEW MARCH. >> GOOGLE MAP IT LOOKS LIKE A BUNCH OF CARS AND STUFF IN THERE.
>> NOT ON THIS PARCEL. I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE QUITE A FEW TIMES. MAYBE ONE OF THE PROPERTIES ON DRURY ROAD OR MALLARD. THE CITY IS WORKING WITH THE COUNTY. THIS SIMMONS LAKE OVER HERE WITH AMELIA PARK. ALL THIS AREA NATURALLY DRAINED TO EAGANS CREEK WEST TO EAST. AND THERE IS AN EXISTING DITCH -- OH, SORRY. THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE HERE THAT THE COUNTY AND CITY ARE WORKING ON TO CORRECT THE DRAINING ISSUE.
>> DID THEY HAVE TROUBLE WITH IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO?
>> YES, SIR. >> THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
>> THE CITY AND COUNTY ARE WORKING TO CORRECT THAT.
THE PROPERTY WAS HEAVILY WO WOODED.
IT WAS UNDERBRUSHED BEFORE THE CITY PURCHASED IT.
SO LOTS OF LIVE OAK -- NATIVE CANOPY THERE.
BUT THERE SHOULDN'T BE -- DIFFERENT TRASH AND PEOPLE USED IT FOR CAMPING AND DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THERE AREN'T JUMP
BOATS AND OTHER THINGS. >> SO THE PROPERTIES ON MAL MALLARD, THEIR BACKYARDS BACK UP TO THIS?
>> THEY DO. >> AND THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY
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TO THE EAST? THERE?>> IT'S OWNED. >> THAT IS OWNED BY SOMEBODY ELSE? AND THAT ACCESSES OFF OF DRURY
WE WILL SEE THAT IN MARCH AS WELL.
>> SO RIGHT NOW IF I WANT TO, COULD I GO OUT AND WALK ON IT?
>> I WOULD DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
REGARDING THE JUMP BOATS. THERE WERE TWO JUMP BOATS ON THE PROPERTY THAT WERE REMOVED BY THE CITY.
>> WHERE IS THE CITY ACCESS TO THAT LOT?
>> OFF OF PHEASANT. >> PHEASANT.
>> THIS IS CITRONA DRIVE HERE. THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE IS EGRET AND SOUTH ON PHEASANT LANE RIGHT HERE AS A COUNTY
RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> TECHNICALLY THERE IS NO CITY
ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? >> THERE IS ACCESS VIA PUBLIC
>>GENECE MINSHEW: YES. >> ON THE PROPERTIES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN JANUARY. WHAT IS THE PROCESS? SO WILL THERE BE -- TYPICALLY WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THERE IS A SIGN THAT GOES UP. AND IT SAYS, THERE WILL BE A HEARING THIS DATE BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.
IS THAT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON ALL THESE PROPERTIES?
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE JUST HAD THEM KIND OF AS GENERAL DISCUSSION ITEMS. WE SENT LETTERS TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. INVITED THEM HERE TO THAT JANUARY MEETING. THERE WILL BE PUBLIC NOTICE IN THE FORM OF MAILED NOTICE, PUBLISHED NOTICE IN THE PAPER FOR THOSE CHANGES FOR THE MARCH MEETING.
>> MR. SIMMONS SAID HE WAS AFRAID OF THAT.
>> THAT IS WHAT WHY WE ARE ASKING.
>> YOU HAVE TO DO IT. >> EVERYBODY WITHIN 500 FEET?
>> 300. >> BUT DID -- I THINK IN
PARTICULAR OF THE -- >> CONDOS
>> THE TOWNHOUSES, DID WE DECIDE ON WHAT WE ARE GOING TO RECOMMEND? OR IS THAT PART OF THE SDHAWTION WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN MARCH?
>> RECOMMENDED ABOUT THREE. >> I DON'T REMEMBER -- CAME TO R 3. WE CAME UP TO R 2.
>> I THINK MISS SCHAFFER THOUGHT THEY SHOULD BE R 3.
>> I SAID R 2. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT IT. THERE WILL BE A COVERINGS.
>> GET -- A CONVERSATION WITH IT.
SO IT WILL BE A FULL-BLOWN HEARING LIKE WE DID WITH THINK
OF THEM. >>GENECE MINSHEW: OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO REPORT? OKAY.
WELL HEARING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, I THINK WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 6:15
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.