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WE WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. TODAY IS FEBRUARY 10.
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GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD MEETING. IF I COULD HAVE THE SECRETARY CALL ROLE PLEASE.THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION, UNDER
GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> ALL RIGHT.
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WAS A EVERYNE ABLE TO GET A COPY OF THE REGULAR MEETING AND SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES FROM DECEMBER TO GO OVER? AND CAN I GET EMOTIONAL AND FOR APPROVE OF THOSE MINUTES.>> ALL MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> ALL?
[5. OLD BUSINESS]
OKAY APPROVED. OLD BUSINESS.ENERAL MANAGER UPDATE. KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES AT THE GOLF COURSE SINCE I LAST MEETING. I WILL ASK MR. MARTIN TO JUST FILL IN ALL THOSE ROLES AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE GOLF COURSE.>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. NUMBERS OF THE GOLF COURSE. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME MR. SEIDEN.
THIS IS THE LAST DAY OF THE RELATIONSHIP FOR THE TIME BEING BETWEEN THE CITY AND INDIGO GOLF. WERE BUSY WITH THE TRANSITION. WE BEEN TAKING INVENTORY.
THINGS WILL BE CLOSED OUT, MR. SEIDEN SENT ME A LIST OF TRANSITION ISSUES WE WILL ADDRESS OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. BUT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS INDICATE TO YOU THAT THE CITY HAS SIGNED JOB OFFERS FOR MR. STEVE MURPHY, MISS KRISTY BENJAMIN TO OBTAIN EMPLOYMENT AT THE CITY GOLF COURSE. WE WILL BEGIN WITH THAT TEAM.
STARTING EFFECTIVELY TOMORROW. WE WILL CONTINUE DELIVER JOB APPLICATIONS FOR THE REST OF THE STAFF. THOSE JOB APPLICATIONS WILL BE COMPLETED.
IF THEY ARE INTERESTED TO CONTINUE TO WORK FOR THE CITY. THIS IS THE JOB OFFERS ARE THE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COMMISSION IS THAT WE PREPARE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS TO GO OUT TO SOLICIT MANAGEMENT FIRMS. TO THE JOB OFFERS TO ALL THE STAFF IS ON AN INTERIM BASIS.
NOT TO EXCEED AT THE TIME PERIOD OF EMPLOYMENT THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
ANTICIPATION IS THAT WE WILL CRAFT THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, GET THE CITY COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. PUBLISH THE REQUESTS, SOLICIT THEIR PORTAL PROPOSAL, WILL HAVE A MANAGEMENT TEAM IN PLACE FOR THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR WE WILL HAVE A PERMANENT MANAGEMENT TEAM ON BOARD. OF RECEIVED LETTERS OF INTEREST FROM A COUPLE OTHER MANAGEMENT FIRMS. THEY BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THEY WILL GO ON THE LIST AND IN THE REQUEST IS PUBLISHED THEY WILL BE DIRECTLY NOTIFIED.
I KNOW THAT WE WILL WORK ON THAT. BE A FEW HICCUPS WITH THE TRANSITION. THE FLARE PRIMARILY WITH MS. BENJAMIN HOPE THOSE WILL BE
MINIMIZED. >> I HAVE HEARD FROM ONE PERSON THAT IS ON THE PROPOSAL, THE LAST PEOPLE TO HEAR THE PROPOSAL 10 YEARS AGO. VERSUS MEG WANTED ME TO RELAY HE THOUGHT THE RFP THAT IS IN PLACE IS A PRETTY DAMN GOOD ONE.
WE JUST DIDN'T REALLY FOLLOW UP ON WHAT IT SAID IN RELATIONSHIP TO INDIGO.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. >> WE HAVE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT REQUEST
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FOR PROPOSALS. 6 OF THEM WERE PROVIDED TO US BY MIR MICHAEL LEDNOVICH.I'VE GOTTEN OTHERS AROUND THE COMMUNITIES AND COUNTRIES. WILL CRAFT ONE AND BECAUSE THE LEVEL OF INTEREST OF THE CITY COMMISSION LEVEL I WILL DEFINITELY GO TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL TO MAKE SURE IT DOES SAY EVERYTHING THEY WANTED TO SAY. ONCE THEY SIGN OFF ON IT THAT'S WHEN IT WILL BE PUBLISHED.
THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A MONTH TO 6 WEEK PROCESS TO GET THAT BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION. I WOULD EXPECT TO GO BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION IN EARLY APRIL
AND PUBLISHED BY LATE APRIL. PENDING APPROVALS. >> I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL.
WE WORKED WITH STEVE MURPHY FOR 4 YEARS AND HE ISN'T EXCELLENT GENERAL AGER.
>> AND STEVE'S ROLE IS S TEMPORARILY. >> HE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE THE TITLE OF PROJECT MANAGER. SIMILAR TO THE ROLE THAT MR. BRONSON LAMB HAD AT THE MARINA.
AS A PROJECT MANAGER. WE DO NOT HAVE A TECHNICAL JOB DESCRIPTION FOR A GOLF COURSE GENERAL MANAGER APPEARED IN THE OFFER LETTERS DID SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT IT'S TENTATIVE, NOT TO EXCEED EMPLOYMENT PASSED SEPTEMBER 30 AND AS TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES FOR THE CITY THE ONLY BENEFIT THAT THEY QUALIFY FOR HIS MEDICAL BENEFITS. THEY DO NOT BURN TIME OFF.
THEY DO NOT BURN PENSION. THE ONLY BENEFIT THEY RECEIVE IS ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAL
BENEFITS. >> ARE THEY THIS HOURLY OR HOURLY?
>> GO THROUGH YOUR SALARY AND THE OTHERS WILL BE HOURLY. >> MR. MARTIN JUST A BACK UP A SECOND. CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A SECOND ON WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NEGOTIATIONS WITHIN ZUCCO? THAT WAS A LOST DIRECTION I THOUGHT THIS COMMITTEE WAS TO NEGOTIATE AND THE NEXT THING I HEARD THE COMMISSION HAD DECIDED TO BOTH AMOUNT.
>> MR. ÃCAN FILL IN THE GAPS. WE WERE WORKED WITH REPRESENTED FROM INDIGO.
THEY GAVE US A PROPOSED AGREEMENT. TECHNICALLY IT WAS AN EXTENSION TO THE EXISTING AGREEMENT. WITH ADDITIONAL TERMS. SUCH AS A REDUCED MANAGEMENT FEE, THERE WERE SOME COURSE METRICS, PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT WERE INVOLVED.
THERE WERE SOME FINANCIAL INCENTIVES THEY RETURNED BACK BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE OF THE GOLF COURSE. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE DESIRE OF CITY COMMISSION WAS, WAS NOT NECESSARILY TO SPECIFICALLY SEVERAL THE RELATIONSHIP WITH BILLY BUT MUCH LIKE WE DID WITH THE MARINA THEIR INTENT WAS THIS WAS A 10 YEAR RELATIONSHIP AND IT'S TIME FOR LACK WITH BETTER TERM KICK THE TIRES, GO OUT FOR REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WHICH UTICA WAS MORE THAN WELCOME TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL AS WELL. IN THAT SAME WHAT THE WATERS ARE LIKE. I THINK THAT WAS THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION.
>> SURE. THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
>> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU DALE. MR. SEIDEL JAMAR COME UP AND SPEAK?
>> YES, EXCELLENT. CHRIS I DEALT WITH INDIGO GOLF PARTNERS.
YEAH, WE TOOK THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD IN TERMS OF DESIRES OF TERM OF CONTRACT TERMINATION CLAUSE FOR CONVENIENCE, TERMINATION CLAUSE FOR PERFORMANCE AND PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL. THEN CHECKED ALL THE BOXES THAT YOU GUYS PRESENTED TO US IN A DOCUMENT THAT MR. MARTIN PROVIDED US.
PRESENTED THAT TO MR. MARTIN AND TAMMY BOCK. LOTS OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED AND UNFORTUNATELY THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO GO ANOTHER ROUND.
WE WERE DISAPPOINTED. WE VALUE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF FERNANDINA.
OR EXCITED FOR THE RFP TO COME OUT AND BE PART OF THAT PROCESS.
>> YOU WILL BID ON A NEW ONE? >> YES WE WILL. >> OKAY, ANYBODY HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS? >> JUST TO CLEAN UP QUESTION SIR.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE STATUS OF ITEMS THAT BEGAN DURING INDIGO'S TENURE AS FAR AS LIKE
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THE TOP TRACE FACILITY AND THE NORTH GREENS AND I BELIEVE BOTH ARE BEHIND SCHEDULE.WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT FALL UNDER AS FAR AS B. >> I CAN'T COMMENT ON TOPTRACER PROJECT WE WORK THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THAT PARTICULAR PORTION OF IT.
THE GREENS, THE PROCESS STARTED LATE IN THE SUMMER. AND WITH INCLEMENT WEATHER, THERE'S A LOT OF HEAVY RAIN IN THE MIDDLE THE SUMMER WE PUT DOWN SEED.OME OF THE SPRINGS GOT WASHED OUT WHICH YOU KNOW I THINK THERE'S 3 TO 3 AND A HALF HOLES WE HAD TO NEED TO COME BACK OR HE SOUGHT. WE SEE THAT SET US BACK. THAT WAS THE WHOLE ORDEAL BUT THE SOUTH 9 WE THEN OVERSEE THE SELF-BECAUSE WE WERE ANTICIPATING HAVING THE WEST AND NORTH AS HER PRIMARY ROTATION IN THE SUMMER. WITH THE DELAYS TO THE NORTH COURSE WE WERE FORCED TO RUN WEST AND SOUTH AND SO OBVIOUSLY THE SOUTH'S FAIRWAYS WEREN'T IN THE BEST SHAPE THAT WAS FULLY ANTICIPATED. WE WERE PLANNING ON GIVING THE SOUTH A BREAK AND LET IT GROW IN. WE HAD SOME EXTRA FERTILITY PROGRAMS AND THERE APPEARED SOME OF THE SPRING HITS WE WERE ABLE TO PUSH AS MUCH GRASS THIS YEAR AS POSSIBLE SO WE COULD FIX THAT ISSUE. WE GOT HIT WITH MOTHER NATURE AND SOME UNCONTROLLABLE'S. OR JUST WAITING FOR WARM WEATHER FOR THAT SOD TO FINALLY BLEND IN. ONCE THAT IS OPEN YOU WILL FIND THAT THE WEST AND NORTH IN THAT ROTATION ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY GOOD. PROBABLY THE CLEANEST THE NORTH HAS BEEN IN A VERY LONG TIME. IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY POPULAR ROTATION.
WE WERE EXCITED TO GET THAT FINALLY OPEN. BUT, IT SHOULDN'T BE MUCH LONGER. HOPEFULLY WARMER WEATHER COMES AND WE GET THAT THING OPEN FOR YOU GUYS.NFORTUNATELY I CAN'T COMMENT ON TOPTRACER, THEY WILL HAVE TO COMMENT ON
THAT SINCE HE WAS THE PROJECT MANAGER OF THAT. >> ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT THE NORTH GREENS FOR APRIL OR MAY. LOOK WAITING FOR WARMER WEATHER.
IT WILL BE CLOSED UNTIL THEN. PROBABLY. >> THAT IS UP TO MR. MARTIN ON HOW HE WANTS TO HANDLE THAT. ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS? EVERYTHING ELSE?
>> NOPE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU ON THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD.
INDIGO GOLF, BILLY CASPER GOLF, ALL OF OUR TEAM ENJOYED OUR TIME HERE WITH THE CITY.AND HOPEFULLY WE LOOK FORWARD TO MAY BE BEING BACK AND HELPING PROGRESS FERNANDINA BEACH
FURTHER. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ON 25 2.
TOPTRACER AND DRIVING RANGE. >> THANK YOU AGAIN. WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH A REMOTE TOP TRACER. I THINK MISS HAMBURG WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ON THE MARKETING AND MEDIA EFFORTS RELATING TO THAT. WE ARE CURRENTLY, TENANCY PLANNING TO HAVE A SOFT OPENING IN MARCH. WITH A GRAND OPENING ONCE THE WARM WEATHER THAT APPARENTLY IS NOT QUITE HERE IN FLORIDA. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE GOING TO TOPTRACER AND WINTER PARK SO WILL HAVE THE GRAND OPENING PROBABLY IN APRIL SOMETIME.
HOPEFULLY GET THAT UP AND RUNNING AND WELL ENOUGH IN ADVANCE TO WORK OUT ANY FINAL KINKS BEFORE THE ANTICIPATED ARRIVAL OF CALL CORE. IN LATE MAY.
SOME OF THE THINGS WERE WORKING ON, ALTHOUGH FURNITURE HAS ARRIVED.
WILL START ASSEMBLING THE FURNITURE FOR THEIR. WE ARE WAITING FOR DELIVERY OF THE BAY DOORS TO SECURE THE FACILITY. THOSE SHOULD BE DELIVERED IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. THOSE WILL BE INSTALLED WE HAVE THE MATHS.
WERE LOOKING AT, WE NEED TO MAKE THE BUILDING ADA COMPLIANT.
WERE IN PROCESS OF GETTING THE SIDEWALK INSTALLED FROM ROUGHLY THE PRACTICE GREEN TO THE FACILITY. LOOKING AT PUTTING A PROXY DOWN ON THE FLOOR LIKE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WITH YOUR GARAGE FLOOR, SOMETHING TO IT PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE LONGEVITY AND APPEARANCE OF THE FLOOR. IT'S GOING ALONG. YES, IT'S TAKING LONGER THAN WE PLANNED. AS DISCUSSED AT THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING WERE NOT GOING TO RUSH INTO IT. WORKING TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE RIGHT WHEN WE OPEN.
WERE LOOKING AT PUTTING AROUND THE FACILITY COQUINA SHELL AROUND INSTEAD OF GRASS.
SO THAT'S ALL IN THE PROCESS OF BEING ORDERED AND INSTALLED. WE'VE GOT MORE DIRT COMING FROM THE DRIVING RANGE. BUT, THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT HAVE MESSED AROUND
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WITH THE SYSTEM AND THEY'RE EVEN MORE EXCITED NOW AND THEY GOT A CHANCE TO FIDDLE AROUND WITH IT. AS PART OF THE SOFT OPENING WE WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THE VARIOUS LOCAL GROUPS AND MISS HAMBURG WILL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.AND INVITED THEM OUT TO SHOWCASE IT WHETHER IT'S A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHETHER IT'S AREA RESORTS, WHETHER IT'S DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES. JACKSONVILLE GROUPS TO AT LEAST INTRODUCE THEM TO THE FACILITY AND BE READY TO PROMOTE THAT FACILITY.
SEVERAL STAFF WENT DOWN AND VISITED THE SIMILAR FACILITY OF BLUE SKY.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT WITH BOTH MS. HAMBERGER AND MR. BAKER SO THEY MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL THIS AND LESSONS LEARNED FROM THEIR VISIT.
WITH YOUR PERMISSION TURNED OVER TO MS. HAMBERGER. SHE WILL GIVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE MARKETING EFFORTS AND OTHER THINGS WE ARE GOING ON.
>> I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. VERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND IS GOING TO BE DONE, ARE WE
STILL IN BUDGET? >> NO, THERE HAVE THINGS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY OVER BUDGET.
LIKE THE SIDEWALK IS COMING OUT OF THE SIDEWALK FUND. BUT, THE OUTCOME OF THE TOTAL BUDGET IS SLIGHTLY OVER.ASED UPON SIMILAR REQUEST FROM THE CITY COMMISSION.
AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUES PLANNED WHICH MS. HAMBERGER CAN TALK ABOUT AS WELL. SELLING SPONSORSHIPS TO PROMOTE SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE AS
WELL. >>. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION DALE.
THIS MAY BE FOR STEVE MURPHY OR FOR DAVID. WITH TOPTRACER BEING IMPLEMENTED SOON HOW MANY SPACES WILL BE LEFT FOR THE REGULAR PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO PLAY A GAME OF GOLF AND WANTING TO HIT BALLS AT THE DRIVING RANGE.
IT LOOKS TO ME THAT THERE'S NOT MUCH SPACE FOR ANYBODY TO USE THE DRIVING RANGE WITHOUT
TOPTRACER. >> THERE WILL BE SOME HITTING AREAS TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE TOPTRACER FACILITY. ANNUAL BE ABLE TO USE THE TOPTRACER BASE WITHOUT ACTIVATING THE EQUIPMENT TO HIT AS WELL. SO THERE SHOULD BE AMPLE SPACE.
THEN WHEN THERE ARE LARGER TOURNAMENTS, PART OF THE PLAN IS YOU WILL ALLOW THE TOURNAMENT PARTICIPANTS TO HIT FROM THE GRASS IN FRONT OF THE TOPTRACER FACILITY.
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE RESTORED. TILIZE FOR THAT PURPOSE. ANYTHING ELSE?
>> WILL GET TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. >> ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FOOD AND ND BEVERAGE?
OR NOT PUT A SINK IN THERE? >> THAT WAS A DESIGN ELEMENT THAT WAS STRAIGHT FROM THE START.T WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN. DUE TO COST AND THE T THAT THERE IS WATER AND SEWER THAT GOES OUT TO THAT FACILITY. THE COST OF IMPACT FEES.
THE LONG-TERM PLAN IS YES, DEPENDING ON SUCCESSIVE TOPTRACER THAT BUILDING IS EXPANDABLE TO INCLUDE MORE KITCHEN FACILITIES AND/OR RESTROOMS. MS. BENJAMIN IS WORKING ON SOME PROVISIONS FOR HOW TO HANDLE ORDERS FROM THIS FACILITY AND DELIVER THOSE ORDERS TO THE FACILITY. I THINK AGAIN THERE WERE SOME EXAMPLES. BLUE SKY DOES NOT HAVE RESTROOMS OR KITCHEN FACILITY
LOCATED IN THEIR FACILITY EITHER. >> IS JUST UPSTAIRS ABOUT 30 YARDS.> CORRECT, IT'S NOT IN THE FACILITY. IT IS CLOSER THAN OURS BUT AGAIN, I THINK THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS THAT OURS WAS UNIQUE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT.
THAT IS THE CASE. AT LEAST IN THE OTHER AREA FACILITY.
BUT, THAT IS A LONG-TERM PLAN DEPENDING ON SUCCESS OF TOPTRACER.
>> OF A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT WHEN WILL THE RANGE ITSELF BE READY.
A SMALL SOURCE BALLS LAUNCHED ONTO THE FIELD AND BEING ABLE TO BE PICKED UP?
>> I THINK THAT BY DOING SOMETHING BUT NOT OBVIOUSLY THIS WEEK WITH THE RAIN.
THEY WERE DOING SOME OF THAT I BELIEVE THEY TAKEN SOME ADDITIONAL TORT OUT THERE AND THEY WERE WORKING ON THE RANGE AS WELL. THEY BEEN HITTING BALLS OUT THERE AS PART OF THAT CALIBRATION EFFORTS FOR TOPTRACER.
>> CORRECTED THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S MOVING FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO
USE NOW. >> CORRECT. WE HAD A MORE DIRT I KNOW MR. YOUNGER AND START JUSTLY FROM THE STORMWATER STAFF DID REVIEW AND MAKE SOME CORRECTIONS OR
REPAIRS TO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM. >> DO YOU WANT TALK ON THIS NOW OR AT YOUR MARKETING UPDATE?
>> I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND FACEBOOK ACCOUNT.
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[INDISCERNABLE]. PHIL SAID WE HAVE A CALL WITH THE TOPTRACER MARKETING TEAM.WERE DISCUSSING THAT WITH THEM. WE WENT TO BLUE SKY AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO OURS.
THEY'VE A SYSTEM WHERE THEY HAVE A WINDOW WHILE THEY HAVE A COOLER OR THEY CAN SELL DRINKS OUT OF THEIR AND OUT THROUGH THE KITCHEN. KRISTY IS WORKING ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND ONE THING THEY DO, MOST OF THEIR REVENUE COMES FROM PRIVATE PARTIES. THEY HAVE KIDS BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND AFTER WORK EVENTS.
I REACHED OUT TO ÃÃABOUT INCLUDING THEM SO THEY CAN WORK WITH US WITH BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT THE ÃÃIDEA?
>> A GO-AHEAD. >> WE HAVE 10 DAYS OR 5 DAYS IN 10 DIFFERENT AREAS.
I'M NOT SURE WITH THE TECHNICAL TERM IS. WE OFFER BUSINESSES A SPONSORSHIP. RIGHT NOW ABOUT IS $2500 FOR 2 YEARS IN A BUSINESS WOULD HAVE A 2 BY 3 SIGN SO THAT WAY THAT THEY WOULD BE THERE AS PART OF THEIR ORDERING FOOD.
[INDISCERNABLE]. >> I GUESS HEREIN. >> OF A QUESTION.
WHO WILL MANAGE THE WEBSITE? >> WE ARE. UNTIL TEMPORARILY UNTIL RIVER
TEAM. >> WRITES. IS THIS BOOKING TEE TIMES AS
WELL FOR TOPTRACER? >> YES MA'AM. >> THE CITY, THE SOFTWARE IS BEING GOLF NOW IS BEING TRANSITIONED FROM BILLY CASPER INTO THE NAME OF THE CITY.
>> IF YOU THINK THAT WILL REQUIRE ANOTHER HEADCOUNT FOR THE CITY OR CAN YOU HANDLE IT
AS IS? >> YOU PLAN ON HANDLING IT AS IS.
>> ALL RIGHT, ANYMORE QUESTIONS ON TOPTRACER OR DRIVING RANGE? NO?
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THAT'S IT FOR OLD NEWS. WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.MS. CAROLINE BEST WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION ON SUNSHINE, PUBLIC RECORDS AND ETHIC LAWS.
>> THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
HE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH SUBSCRIBES TO SUNSHINE LAW AND PUBLIC RECORDS LAW.
IT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS SUNSHINE LAW BUT IT'S 2 SEPARATE AND DISTINCT COMPONENTS OF FLORIDA STATUTE. SUNSHINE LAW PUBLIC RECORDS LAW APPLY TO ALL ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS WHETHER YOU'RE ELECTED OR YOUR APPOINTED. THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS SOME OF THE OLDEST AND MOST STRINGENT PUBLIC RECORDS AND SUNSHINE LAWS IN THE NATION.
WITH THAT ALL MEETINGS THAT YOU CONDUCT AMONGST YOURSELF MUST BE PUBLICLY NOTICED.
IF 2 OF YOU WANT TO MEET, YOU CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S NOT A QUORUM.
A QUORUM WOULD BE 3 OR MORE PEOPLE. 2 PEOPLE CAN'T MEET.
IF YOU DO BEAT, THAT IS CONSIDERED A VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW.
EMAILS, YES MA'AM?> A QUICK QUESTION. DO I HAVE TO LEAVE THE ROOM IF
THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION? >> YOU SHOULD NOT DISCUSS ITEMS OR TOPICS THAT COULD
POTENTIALLY COME BEFORE THIS BOARD. >> BUT SHE COULD DISCUSS IT I
JUST CAN'T BE THERE? >> SHE COULD DISCUSS IT WITH THE LEAGUE BUT YOU CANNOT BE THERE. MEETINGS MUST BE PUBLICLY NOTICED.
AND WE STRIVE PUBLIC NOTICE WITH A 20 4 HOURS IF IT'S GOOD TO BE EMERGENCY MEETING.N CASE OF YOUR AGENDAS WE TRY TO PUBLISH THOSE 7 DAYS IN ADVANCE BEFORE YOUR MEETING DATES OF THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE AGENDA CONTENT AND DETERMINE WHETHER THEY LIKE TO BE PRESENT OR WATCH ONLINE. THANK YOU MAYOR. MEETINGS MUST OCCUR IN A
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LOCATION AS EASILY ACCESSIBLE. AND WHICH IS WHY YOU MEET HERE IN CHAMBERS BECAUSE IT IS ADA COMPLIANT FOR THE MOST PART. MEETINGS MUST ALSO OCCUR AT A REGULAR TIME AT A REGULAR PLACE. THAT IS TO DISCOURAGE THE PRACTICE OF PEOPLE MEETING IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. THE LAW IS REACTIONARY. ALL THESE LAWS ARE IN PLACE DUE TO PEOPLE THAT DID THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE. THAT'S WHY IT'S SO STRINGENT.YOU HAVE TO MEET IN A CUSTOMARY PLACE AT A CUSTOMARY TIME AND ACCESSIBLE LOCATION SO THAT THE PUBLIC HAS REASONABLE ACCESS. CONSEQUENCES OF VIOLATIONS. IT IS A VIOLATION OF STATUTE SUBJECT TO PENALTIES AND MISDEMEANOR OF THE SECOND DEGREE ON THE FLORIDA STATUTE TO VIOLATE THE SUNSHINE LAW. SUNSHINE LAWS MEETINGS BETWEEN THE WALL AND THAT'S NOT PUBLICLY NOTICED. PUBLIC RECORDS AS A SECOND COMPONENTS OR THE SISTER COMPONENT IF YOU WILL OF THE SUNSHINE LAW. PUBLIC RECORDS MEANS ALL MATERIALS RECEIVED IN CONNECTION WITH ALL OF YOUR BOARD BUSINESS.
EMAILS, YOU CAN'T EMAIL EACH OTHER. YOU CAN'T EMAIL EACH OTHER AS A GROUP. I CAN EMAIL YOU AS A GROUP AND YOU'LL SEE WHEN I DO THAT I PUT DO NOT REPLY TO ALL AND IN THE FIRST SENTENCE. JUST TO REMIND YOU THAT IF YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THE EMAIL YOU RESPOND TO ME ONLY. ALSO EMAILED YOU ALL COUPLE WEEKS AGO LINK TO THIS MANUAL. THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT AND THE SUNSHINE MANUAL.
IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT OR YOU DON'T LOOK ONLINE IT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR $10 IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ONE OF THESE I'M HAPPY TO GET ONE FOR YOU. THIS IS A QUICK REFERENCE MANUAL.
IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL ME YOU'VE GOT MY CONTACT INFORMATION AND EMAIL ADDRESS. BUT, ALSO WITH EMAILS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE DEVICE IS THAT YOU'RE USING. IF IT YOUR PERSONAL PHONE, IF IT'S A CITY ISSUED TABULATE, IF IT'S YOUR PERSONAL COMPUTER AT HOME. IF IT'S RELATED TO THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD IT'S A PUBLIC RECORD. YOU CAN'T DELETE THOSE EMAILS.
WHAT I SUGGEST IS CREATING A FOLDER CALLED THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD AND PUTTING ALL YOUR COMMUNICATION RELATED TO THE BOARD INTO THAT ONE FOLDER. SO IF YOU DO GET A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FOR THE INFORMATION IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. MS. HAMBURG.
LET'S SEE. AND THEN ETHICS. THE FLORIDA ETHICS CODE IS PART 2 OF CHAPTER 112 WITH THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION. IT REQUIRES BOARD MEMBERS TO NOT BE INVOLVED IN ANY KIND OF BUSINESS WHEN YOU'RE SERVING ON AN ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTING THE CITY OF BERNADINO BEACH. OVIDE YOU ANY FINANCIAL GAIN OR ANY OTHER GAIN. NO FAVORS, NO GIFTS. THERE IS A GIFT POLICY AND THE ETHICS CODE I BELIEVE THE LIMIT ON THAT IS $120 NOW OR HUNDRED $50.
I CAN'T REMEMBER. WITH THE CITY WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE OUR ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS AND ELECTED FFICIALS TO NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING. YOU MIGHT GET TICKETS FOR SOMETHING. A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AND THIS PREDATES COMMISSIONER ROSS.
A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WE HAD THE CONCORDE GAVE OUR COMMISSIONERS TICKETS TO ATTEND THEIR EVENT. I RETURNED THOSE TICKETS ON THEIR BEHALF.F YOU DO ACCEPT GIFTS YOU HAVE TO CLAIM THEM. THIS FORMS WITHOUT. IF YOU HAVE ACCEPTED SOMETHING AND YOU WANT LET ME KNOW THAT I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS AS WELL THANK YOU MS.
HAMBURG. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? >> ANYBODY?
QUESTIONS? >> OKAY, LET ME KNOW IF I CAN BE OF HELP TO ANY OF YOU.
THANK YOU. >> I THINK WERE GOING TO JUMP AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
HAVE TO MAKE A STATEMENT. >> IT WAS SAD, ONE OF THE GOLF ADVISORY MEETINGS IN DECEMBER THAT THE COMMISSIONERS DID NOT KNOW THE CONDITION OF THE GOLF COURSE AND THAT WE HAD NOT SENT INFORMATION TO THEM WE BEEN, I'M SPEAKING UP FOR THE WOMEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION.
WE HAVE NOT GONE DIRECTLY TO THE COMMISSIONER THAT I KNOW OF.
WE'VE ALWAYS SENT OUR CONCERNS TO THE GENERAL MANAGER, TO BRING THE SUPERINTENDENT AND
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THEY WERE BASICALLY IGNORED FOR VARIOUS REASONS. SO THE WOMEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION WANTED ME TO GIVE YOU SOME CONCERNS ABOUT OUR COURSE AND WE WANT ON RECORD THIS TIME THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THINGS. SOMETHING DISCUSSED, FOR EXAMPLE. TOPTRACER GOLF. HOW WILL THE CUSTOMERS ORDER FOOD AND DRINK? HOW WILL THAT CUSTOMERS GET ACCESS TO THE BATHROOM FACILITIES AND CLUBHOUSE ESPECIALLY AFTER THE CLUBHOUSE HOURS.WHAT WILL BE THE OPERATING HOURS FOR TOPTRACER? DRIVING RANGE, DALE ADDRESSED THIS ABOUT THE SPACE FOR GOLFERS NOT USING TOPTRACER. SO I APPRECIATE THAT DALE.
I'VE LEARNED THAT THE DRAINAGE HAS BEEN CORRECTED. THE RESTAURANT AND BAR AREA.
THE APPEARANCE OF THE RESTAURANT AND BAR IS VERY DEPRESSING.
IN MY OPINION COULD MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. IT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED.
I THINK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS WHERE HE LIVED PEOPLE WOULD POP OVER THERE FOR LUNCH AND DINNER IF IT WAS MORE APPEALING. AND HIRE A REAL SHIFT.
HIRE SOMEONE THAT CAN COOK. THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE GROUNDS ARE NOT UP TO TOP SHAPE AND I LEARNED THAT. THE IRRIGATION SURROUNDING THE CLUBHOUSE HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR 4 YEARS. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT HAS BEEN REPAIRED.
BUT SOMETHING THAT THE WOMEN ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. THE COURSE CONDITIONS WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE NORTH KOREANS. HE SOUTH HAS MANY PROBLEMS SO WE NEED TO WORK ON ONE, 2, 6, 8, 9 AND ESPECIALLY THE FAIRWAYS. ALL THE TAPE BOXES NEED TO BE LEVELED IMPLANTED WITH THE GRASS. PRUNING OF SOME TREES ARE NEEDED. WERE NOT ASKING FOR ANY TREES TO BE REMOVED BUT SOME TREES ARE OVER TAPE BOXES, GRASS WILL GROW AND IT'S NOT A GOOD SHOT FOR THE GOLFERS.
CART PATHS ARE DANGEROUS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR THERE IS MONEY TO REMOVE THE CONCRETE AND ASPHALT IN THE CART PATHS BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE DANGEROUS ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTH. IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN? AS I COULD HAPPEN THIS YEAR? WHEN WILL AND THIS IS FOR PROBABLY STEVE, WHEN WILL THE WHOLE GOLF COURSE GO BACK TO SHOTGUN STARTS FOR LEAGUE PLAY? AND FINALLY, WELL, NOT FINALLY.
GOLF CARTS, HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED LEASING INSTEAD OF BY GOLF COURSE THAT WAY WE COULD GET NEW CARDS EVERY 3 OR 4 YEARS. THE CARTS WE HAVE NOW ARE IN REALLY BAD SHAPE AND NOT SAFE. I WAS WORRY WHAT I'M CROSSING A PARKWAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE OUT. WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY LAST CONCERN WHICH IS SAFETY.
THE CROSSING FROM NUMBER ONE S. TO NUMBER 2 S., THE GOLF COURSE HAVE TO CROSSOVER MOOD PARKWAY.
YOU COULD BARELY SEE THE LINES THAT PEOPLE THERE GOING 55 MILES AN HOUR.
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT. I THINK THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD.
I THINK THE CITY AND THE COUNTY NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO SAVE SOME LIVES HERE.
THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF CLOSE CALLS. THE NEED TO HAVE THOSE REPAINTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE SAME FOR THE CROSSING ON LOS LOBOS WHICH HAPPENS TO BE MY STREET. IT'S NOT NEARLY AS DANGEROUS BUT, IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
I NOTICED THAT THE CROSSING ON TITLEIST, I THINK IT'S TITLEIST HAS BEEN REPAINTED AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S AN AGENDA TO TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER 2 OR 3 BECAUSE THERE'S ONE UP NEAR THE CLUBHOUSE. SO, I THINK THE SAFETY IS A REAL, REAL CONCERN ESPECIALLY ON THE PARKWAY. THE WOMEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ON RECORD WITH ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE.
THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENT ON
THAT? >> NOPE, THEY'RE ALL APPROPRIATE.
>> OKAY WILL GO BACK TO 6.2, MR. MURRAY? >> YES I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR THE MEN'S ASSOCIATION. WE GO PLAY OTHER CITY COURSES SO WE BENT OCALA AND PALATKA.
IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING, PALATKA IS ONLY 60 ACRES BUT, THE GUY LEASING IT FROM THE CITY LAST YEAR, ONLY 29,000 ROUNDS AND HE PAID THE CITY $5000 A MONTH IN RENT AND ENDED UP GIVING THE CITY ANOTHER HUNDRED THOUSAND FROM THE REVENUE.
THE COURSE ISN'T THAT GREAT OF SHAPE. THE FACT THAT IT'S MAKING MONEY
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DID THAT. OCALA WAS ANOTHER TRIP AND THERE'S A MEETING THERE EVERY MONDAY. I GET A THING ABOUT MUNICIPAL COURTS.THEY ARE HURTING AND DYING BUT THERE IS HOPE. WITH THIS TOPTRACER I HAVE A LOT OF HOPE FOR THIS COURSE IF WE GIVE IT THE LOVE AND THE CARE THAT IT NEEDS.
THAT'S IT. >> ANY COMMENT ON THAT? ALL RIGHT.
WE KIND OF OVER WENT OVER 6.3. AND WILL MOVE ON. THE JUNIOR GOLF ASSOCIATION, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE IF EVERYONE IS OKAY WITH MOVING THIS TO A NEXT MEETING JUST DUE TO THE FACT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO KINDA FOCUS ON GETTING THE GOLF COURSE B.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST HEAR SOMETHING. I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH ATTENTION WE COULD GIVE IT RIGHT NOW. HE SENT US A LETTER. I DON'T HAVE IT BUT IT'S MY
FILE AT HOME. >> I'LL JUST GO OVER IT QUICK THEN WITH AN OVERVIEW.
IS THAT FINE?> JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
>> MY NAME IS MIKE ÃCOME UP MY FAMILY AND I MOVED HERE 3 YEARS AGO FROM PANAMA CITY.
I GUESS DUE TO HURRICANE MICHAEL . WITH OVER THE CITY SHE IS MY NEIGHBOR.
I WAS IN GOLF BUSINESS FOR 20 YEARS. PGA GOLF PROFESSIONAL.
I WORKED IN MANY OF THE TOP GOLF COURSES IN THE COUNTRY. JUPITER, ETC. APPEARED ON THE LONGER THE GOLF BUSINESS BUT, OF A 7-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER THERE'S REALLY NO JUNIR PROGRAMS HERE. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME IN HILTON HEAD AND I WAS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR OF THE HILTON IN JUNIOR GOLF ASSOCIATION.
WE HAD OVER 300 KIDS BACK IN EARLY 2000'S. I WENT TO THE GOLF COURSE THIS SUMMER TO OFFER MY SERVICES TO CONDUCT JUNIOR GOLF CLINICS OF THE CITY COURSE AND BASICALLY WAS TOLD DON'T BOTHER. I'M WILLING AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER, CONDUCT THE CLINICS AT THE COURSE. ON A WEEKLY BASIS. HOPEFULLY THIS TRANSFORMS INTO A VERY STRONG JUNIOR GOLF PROGRAM FOR THE ISLAND. THE OTHER NEEDS IT.
I TALKED TO MANY OF MY DAUGHTER'S FRIENDS, THE VERY DISAPPOINTED THERE'S NO REAL JUNIOR GOLF ANYWHERE ON THIS ISLAND. THERE'S A STRONG PRESENCE IN GOLF BUT THERE IS NO STRONG JUNIOR PRESENCE. WHICH IS VERY DISAPPOINTING.
THAT'S WHERE WE STAND. I THINK BUILDING JUNIOR GOLF AND BUILDING OFFERS FOR THE FUTURE WILL SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WE HAVE NOW.'VE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN GOLF.
GOLF IS MISSING. I THINK I LOVE TO START THE JUNIOR GOLF PROGRAM AND WITHOUT MAYBE WE CAN MOVE INTO HAVING TOURNAMENTS, JUNIOR GOLF ASSOCIATION, GOLF COURSES ARE FAILURE WILLING TO DONATE SOME TIME IN THE AFTERNOONS TO CONDUCT THESE TOURNAMENTS.
AS GOLF PROFESSIONALS IT'S PART OF THEIR DUTY. TO THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING MOVING FORWARD. YOU GUYS HAVE MY PROPOSAL.
IF YOU WANT TO TALK FURTHER, NEXT MONTH I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. IF THAT'S WHERE WE STAND. ANOTHER THING I NOTICE ABOUT THE CITY IS WHICH I THINK CORRELATES WITH THE GOLF AS A TENNIS PROGRAM.
MY DAUGHTER IS IN THE PROGRAM AT THE PARKS. BEGINNING AT THE PROGRAM WE HAD TO WAIT. NOW, WE HAVE GREAT FACILITIES FOR TENNIS WE HAVE A GREAT PLACE FOR GOLF BUT NOTHING LIKE THE TENNIS PROGRAM IN THE GOLF. TO MAKE IT SIMPLE I'D ALMOST LIKE TO BEER THAT PROGRAM AND THE GOLF AND BUILD ON IT MORE BECAUSE YOU COULD CONDUCT THESE TOURNAMENTS AND HAVE AN ASSOCIATION AND YOU CAN GO FORWARD A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I THINK JUST A START I THANK YOU'D BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY IF YOU
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WOULD START HAVING A PROGRAM SIMILAR TO THE TENANTS WHERE YOU HAVE WEEKLY AND ON THE WEEKENDS AND YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD GET VERY INVOLVED IN THE SUMMERTIME HAVING 2 TO 3 HOUR CAMPS. YOU CAN GET FOOD AND BEVERAGE INVOLVED.OPERANT CAMPS OF THE CLUMPS I WORKED OUT. YOU GET THE BEVERAGES IN
EVERYONE'S A WINNER. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> I CAN TELL YOU THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS DEAR DEAR TO ME. I'VE A 6-YEAR-OLD THAT WANTS TO PLAY. I KNOW THERE'S SOME COMMISSIONERS THAT SUPPORT IT.
IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO END UP GOING TO THE RFP PROCESS. THERE WILL BE EVENTS FOR THINGS LIKE THAT. IT WILL BE, I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOME KIND OF CONTRACT FOR USING THE COURSE AND ALL THE BACKEND STUFF BUT, I WILL TELL YOU FROM THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE INVOLVED THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WILL LIKELY HAPPEN.
IT JUST MAY BE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AS IT WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHO'S GOING TO RUN THE GOLF COURSE RIGHT NOW. >> I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
>> WE WANT TO GIVE THE JUNIOR GOLFERS A GOOD EXPERIENCE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE
RADAR AND IT'S FAVORED ON THE RADAR. >> OKAY.
I JUST WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYBODY.
>> COOL. THANK YOU. >> 6.5 SUBMITTED AND ATTACH LETTER, FOR THE GOLF COURSE. RATES INCREASE. WHO IS SPEAKING ON THIS?
>> THIS WAS A LETTER FROM MR. CARLOS BUSTER BAD. >> THE ONE THAT WAS ON
FACEBOOK? >> THERE SOME GOOD IDEAS.
A CHANCE TO SEE THIS AND READ THIS? >> I DID OT.
CITED. EXECUTED? IF YOU LOOK AT A COMPUTER SCREEN IT'S NUMBER 15. BASICALLY.
GOT IS THIS IS ONE OF MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEIR VERSION OF GOLF COURSE EXPERTISE.
THEY ARE JUST OFFERING SOME INSIGHTS ON THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO IMPROVE THE GOLF COURSE. FEE INCREASES, FINANCES, I THINK MOST OF US KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OPINION ON THIS ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S IN THE FACEBOOK WORLD. WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS LETTER IF WE WANT BUT, THAT'S THE JUST OF IT. IT SOMEONE SAINT WE NEED TO RAISE THE RATES, IMPROVE THE
GREENS AND IMPROVE THE FACILITIES. >> PUT IN MORE BENCHES.
>> YEAH. >> THERE SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS.
I THINK IT WILL BE UP TO DALE AND STEVE ON HOW YOU RUN A GOLF COURSE.
THEY ARE PRETTY BASIC. >> YEAH. THE JUST OF PUTTING ALL THE LETTERS, THRALL THE SAME THING. I THANK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD AS WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT
WHO AND HOW THE GOLF COURSE IS GOING TO BE RAN. >> AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE GONNA
SPEND. >> AND HOW MUCH LOOKING TO SPEND.
>> WE HAVE PRESCOTT WHO IS OFFERING ADVICE. >> I BELIEVE AND HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL TAKE SOME TIME AND TALK TO THESE PEOPLE. BUT, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO DIVE INTO TO MUCH UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO GET INTO IT?
>> OUT A COUPLE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT. HE GETS INTO THE NEED FOR VOLUNTEERS TO WELCOME PEOPLE AND SUCH. THINGS LIKE THAT.HICH TO ME WERE, LIKE, COME ON THIS SO PUBLIC GOLF COURSE. IF YOU WANT TO VOLUNTEER YOUR TIME THAT'S GREAT. AS A COMMITTEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A CONSENSUS OF GETTING SOMEHOW OFFICIAL PERMISSION ON VOLUNTEER COMMITTEES. IF THERE IS NOT AT ALL.
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AND WHAT PROJECTS THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN. KIND OF GET IT OFFICIAL WHERE THERE CAN BE VOLUNTEER PROJECTS DONE. FOR SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS.AS FAR AS THE VOLUNTEERS, THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL THING AND IT WOULD BE GREAT BUT WE HAVE
TO HAVE THE MECHANISM. TO BE PUT IN PLACE. >> IT'S NOT SUPER EASY TO GET VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY COMMITTED. I THINK OF THAT SOMETHING THAT THE ASSOCIATIONS WOULD WANT TO TAKE ON AND HAVE THAT AS AN OFFER TO THE CITY COURSE TO GO UP TO CHANNEL THINK THAT WOULD BE THE AVENUE OF APPROACH FOR THAT.
THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S ASSOCIATIONS BUT THAT TOGETHER AND BRING OPTIONS TO THE CITY.
>> THE WOMEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION HAS OFFERED MANY TIMES AND WE WERE TURNED DOWN.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A LIABILITY REASON OR WHAT. I WILL TELL YOU THIS.
SEVERAL YEARS AGO VICKI ÃWAS PRESIDENT THE WOMEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION WENT INSIDE AND PAINTED THE INSIDE OF THE CLUBHOUSE.WE DID. WE GOT ON LADDERS, WE PAINTED IT. BECAUSE WE WERE LITTLE EMBARRASSED WHEN WE HAD TOURNAMENTS. SO WE DID IT OURSELVES AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY, JUST YESTERDAY AT A GOLF TOURNAMENT SOME WOMEN CAME UP TO ME AND SAID ASK ABOUT VOLUNTEERING.
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HELP THIS GOLF COURSE. SO YOU'VE GOT THE WOMEN'S
SUPPORT AND WE CAN VOLUNTEER. >> I THINK WE JUST NEED TO PUT TOGETHER A, AND HOW IT WORKS.
>> CHRIS COULD YOU TALK ABOUT, I THINK THERE WAS LIABILITY ISSUES.
WE'VE HAD PEOPLE TO TRIM TREES AND GO AROUND. >> IT IS A LIABILITY ISSUE.F YOU'RE NOT AN EMPLOYEE YOU NOT COVERED UNDER WANT GUNS CALL. IF YOU WERE TO HURT YOURSELF OR HURT ANOTHER EMPLOYEE AND RUN OVER THEM WITH THE GOLF COURSE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH IT IS A RATHER LARGE LIABILITY. SEVERAL GOLF COURSES BACK 5 JUST TO 8 YEARS AGO UTILIZE VOLUNTEERS QUITE A BIT. OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THEY DON'T BECAUSE OF THAT.
SO, I'M NOT SURE WITH THE CITY'S POLICY ON THAT IS GOING FORWARD.
>> FOR INDIGO IT WAS A RELIABILITY. >> S.
>> IT WAS LIABILITY EVEN 1015 YEARS AGO. >> OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEND A
LETTER TO BUSTER BAD SAY THANK YOU FOR SENDING THE TTER. >> ONE OTHER THING.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET INVOLVED IN SETTING THE RATES GOING FORWARD.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF LEAKAGE AS FAR AS IT SHOULD BE VERY ADVANTAGEOUS TO BE A MEMBER IN THIS ADVANTAGEOUS TO NOT BE MEMBER WHAT IT COST TO PLAY.
IF IS JUST AS CHEAP TO PLAY WITHOUT BEING A MEMBER AS BEING A MEMBER.
WE COULD DRAW ON THOSE TO GET PEOPLE TO GET A MEMBERSHIP. >> I THINK IT'S A DIFFERENT APPROACH BECAUSE OF THE CITY AND NOT CASPER APPEARED I'M SURE DALE WILL ADDRESS THOSE.
LOOK OUT FOR THE CITY RESIDENCE. >> YEAH, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT EITHER. I BELIEVE THIS BOARD SHOULD BE MORE INVOLVED WITH THE OVERALL OPERATIONS OF THE GOLF COURSE AND OUR ADVISEMENT BEING TAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE IN HAND.
I THINK NOT AS OF DISREGARD TO INDIGO BUT THEY HAVE A WAY OF DOING IT AND IT'S KIND OF THEIR WAY OF DOING IT. I'M INTRIGUED AND KIND OF EXCITED TO SEE HOW THE PATH GOES FOR THE NEXT 8 MONTHS. WHERE IT IS CITY RAN AND IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS FOR EVERYONE.
SO, YES, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT RATES, YOU KNOW INTERVIEWING PROCESS FOR THE NEXT GM, EVEN IF WE HIRE A NEW MANAGEMENT COMPANY. THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY SHOULD NOT HAVE THE. THEY SHOULD GET THIS BOARD AND THE COMMISSION'S INPUT ON THE GM AND THE LEADERSHIP AT THE GOLF COURSE BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO BE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE CITY WANTS AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHY WERE UP HERE AS WELL.
HIS REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY TO KIND OF SAY, HERE YOU GO.
FOR THE INTERFACE TO THE COMMISSION FOR THE GOLF THAT ARE OUT THERE EVERY ERY DAY.
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WE WILL GO TO 6.6 WHICH IS AGENDA ITEMS. SO BASICALLY WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO HERE IS THINGS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO WE CAN GET THEM NOW AND START WORKING ON THE AGENDA AND GIVE MISS BEST AND WHOEVER IS WHEN THE TIME COMES PLENTY OF TIME TO PUT THE AGENDA TOGETHER AND NOT TO WAIT A WEEK BEFORE WE HAVE TO PUBLISH.IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE COMMITTEE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE SPOKEN ON AT THE NEXT?
>> I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THE JUNIOR GOLF PROGRAM. >> YEAH.
OKAY. >> WE SHOULD HAVE MR. MURPHY OR MR. YOUNGER.
>> SO BASICALLY ALL THE NEW STAFF, NEW TAFF BACKUP FOR JUST AN UPDATE?
>> YES. >> IN THE PAST THE MANAGERS ALREADY HAD AGENDA.
WILL HE DO AN AGENDA AGAIN? >> DALE? >> HE PUT THE AGENDA TOGETHER
WHEN HE WAS WORKING HERE BEFORE. >> CORRECT, TYPICALLY THE AGENDA IS THE STAFF LIAISON. IF THERE'S ISSUES THAT YOU WANT TO SEE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA THEN YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST GO THROUGH THE CHAIR, THE CHAIR WILL TALK TO CITY STAFF AND IN THIS CASE IT WILL BE MR. MURPHY TO ADD THOSE ITEMS OR TO PROVIDE THE BACKUP.
THE GOAL OR THE POLICY OF THE CITY IS TO PUBLISH THE AGENDAS ONE WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING.
SO GENERALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE WILL LOCK DOWN THE AGENDA ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE THEN.
SOME WERE NOT SCRAMBLING AROUND AT THE LAST MINUTE TRYING TO GET BACKUP INFORMATION AND PROVIDE YOU WITH SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS IN ANTICIPATION OF YOUR AGENDA.
TYPICALLY IS ABOUT 2 WEEKS OUT FROM ANY DATE. SHARE THIS WITH MR. ROBBINS.
WILL PASS THEM ON TO MR. MURPHY. MAYBE ALL 5 OF YOU WANT TALK ABOUT THE SAME THING AND 5 OF YOU CALLING MR. MURPHY. GO TO THE CHAIR AND SAID
SOMETHING. >> OKAY, THANK YOU DALE. >> ALL ENCOURAGE THAT.
AS MISS BEST TALKED ABOUT MAKE A PHONE CALL AND NOT EMAILS. AND THEN MR. ROBINSON SENT AN EMAIL FOR IN THAT WAY YOUR COMPLIANT WITH THE SUNSHINE LAWS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WILL HAVE TO REPORT THE EMAILS. IF YOU DO SET THE EMAIL FOR MR.
ROBINSON IS SUBJECT TO THE SUNSHINE LAWS. >> IN THE PAST WE USED TO BE
HANDED A PACKET FROM THE VISOR BOARD MEETING. >> THE GENERAL INCLUDED IN THE WEEKLY REPORT. THE MEETINGS AND MINUTES FROM ALL THE VARIOUS BOARD MEETINGS
PROVIDED TO THE CITY. >> THEY COULD READ IT? I DON'T THINK IT WAS RIGHT WHEN I SENT IT. THEY GET TO READ ALL THE MINUTES FOR ALL THE VISOR
BOARDS IF THEY WANT TO. >> CORRECT. >> THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN
COMPLAINTS IN THE PAST. >> I USED TO SEND THE MINUTES TO STEVE.
I THINK LAST TIME I SENT THEM TO CAROLINE. I'LL START SENDING THEM TO
STEVE DOWN. >> DOES GET INCLUDED, WHEN I SEND A WEEKLY REPORT TO THE CITY COMMISSIONERS MY SYSTEM PROVIDES ME WITH A SUMMARY OF DOCUMENTS THAT SHE WORKS WITH AND AS A CITY MANAGER PACKET THAT INCLUDES THE MINUTES FROM THE VARIOUS BOARD ADVISORIES.
>> ANYONE ELSE GOT A QUESTION ON THAT? >> IT WOULD BE THE REOPENING OF THE NORTH IF THE GREENS ARE ACCEPTABLE LET'S SAY 30 DAYS FROM NOW.
IF THEY'RE NOT OPEN WITH SOME ALTERNATE GREENS I THINK THERE WERE SOME THAT LOOKED REALLY BAD. I THINK WE SHOULD REOPEN THE TEMPORARY GREENS.
IN THE SHADE PART OF THE FAIRWAY. THE REST OF IT IS IN GREAT SHAPE AND READY TO GO. I CAN SEE THIS BEING A CONTINUING REGROWTH THROUGH SUMMER. I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
>> AND SAME WAY THE SAME RESPONSE TO GIVE THE CITY COMMISSIONERS IS, ALL THAT THE OPERATIONS OF THE GOLF COURSE, I WILL DEFER THE OPERATIONS TO WHOM WE HAVE MANAGING AND OPERATING THE GOLF COURSE. I CAN'T COMMIT TO SAYING YES. THE NORTH COURSE WILL BE OPEN
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APRIL 1. I WILL DEFER TO SOMEBODY THAT HAS MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT IT THAN I DO.I THINK THE DESIRE AND THE INTENT IS TO OPEN IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT INCURRING ADDITIONAL DAMAGE TO THE GREENS THAT WERE JUST REPLACED. THINK THAT HAS TO BE THE DECISION MADE BY THE INDIVIDUAL OR THE COMPANY, THE OPERATIONS OF THE COMPANY HAVE TO BE LEFT IN THE HANDS OF THE MANAGER OF THE GOLF COURSE. I THINK WE CAN PROVIDE INPUT.
I THINK THE FINAL DECISION RESTS WITH WHOEVER IT IS THAT IS MANAGING THE GOLF COURSE.
>> CORRECT. >> OKAY. I HAVE A FEELING WITH THIS NEW CHANGE OF LEADERSHIP OUT THERE WE WILL GET UPDATES AND ONE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, EVEN THOUGH WE WILL HAVE A GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT UPDATE OR AN UPDATE FROM THE MANAGER WE COULD MAKE THAT A SPECIFIC ITEM TOPIC AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT HERE INSTEAD OF WHEN THE GOLF OPERATIONS LEADERSHIP IS HERE. INSTEAD OF 2 OTHER FOLKS WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON IT
>> I HAVE ONE MORE THING. ING THE DOCUMENT WE PUT TOGETHER WITH THE WOMEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION. I ATTENDED THE SENATE THIS MORNING TO EVERYONE.
MY INTENT IS TO STILL SEND IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND TO YOU DALE AND NOW TO STEVE MURPHY.
>> IF YOU SEND IT TO ME I'LL MAKE SURE IT'S ON THERE. THERE'S A TO DO LIST.
THE CONCERNS YOU RAISE MS. SIMPSON ARE NOT UNIQUE TO YOU OR THE WOMEN'S LEG.
THE CONCERNS WE'VE HEARD FROM MR. THIS DEVON AND OTHERS AS WELL.
HERE'S A WORKING CHECKLIST THAT WE COULD START TAKING THESE THINGS OFF.
>> MS. SIMPSON IF YOU'LL EMAIL THAT LETTER TO MYSELF. >> I WILL CAROL.
I DIDN'T N'T MEAN TO LEAVE YOU OUT. YOU WERE RIGHT THERE ON TOP OF MY IST ANY OTHER ITEMS WE WANT TO SEE NEXT MONTH? RIGHT NOW HAVE THE JUNIOR GOLF UPDATE FROM THE NEW STAFF, THE NORTH COURSE UPDATE. ANYTHING ELSE? I MEAN, WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE BASICALLY 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 ON THE AGENDA AS UPDATES AND THE MARKETING UPDATE IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY IS BASICALLY THE MANAGERS UPDATE ON ALL THINGS OF THE GOLF COURSE. MARKETING OF THE GOLF COURSE.
SO YOU HAVE THE MARKETING UPDATE AS THE OPERATIONS AND THE MARKETING IS THE OPERATIONS AND THE ECONOMY IS THE GREENS AND THE GRASS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> SUPERINTENDENTS UPDATES. ARKETING IS GM, AGRONOMY IS SUPERINTENDENTS.
IF THERE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT MR. PELIKAN WANTED HERE ON THE NORTH COURSE.
WE COULD PUT THOSE THINGS IN. SO THEY KNOW, OR CANNOT ASK THEM QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT
SPECIFICALLY. >> NOT PERTAIN TO THE AGENDA BUT DO WE HAVE A LIAISON TO ONE
OF THE COMMISSIONERS? >> NO MA'AM, THE CITY OPTED NOT TO APPOINT INDIVIDUALS.
>> I RESIGNED. >> THE DIRECTOR THE CITY COMMISSION WAS NOT THESE MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND ANY COMMISSIONER CAN COME. AS YOU SEE COMMISSIONER ROSS IS A FREQUENT ATTENDEE. THE DECISION WAS THEY WEREN'T GONNA APPOINT SPECIFIC
DESIGNATED LIAISONS TO INDIVIDUAL ADVISORY BOARDS. >> WHEN WAS THAT DONE?
>> THAT WAS DONE DECEMBER ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING. >> OH, OKAY.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. WILL POP THROUGH THESE LAST THROUGH, THE MEN'S GROUP ASSOCIATION TO HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THEM?
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>> NOTHING REALLY. >> SAME AS THE WOMEN'S? >> THE WOMEN'S WAS OUR TO GIVE
IT TO YOU. >> DO YOU THINK DISCUSSING SUCH A MEETING FOR STUFF TO BRING
FORWARD? >> WHO DOES AND IN THE PAST WE ALWAYS HAVE.
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I FIND OUT ABOUT THE COMPLAINTS REALLY. >> OUR NEXT MEETING WE MEET 4
TIMES A YEAR. >> WOW, OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
WELL, WE'VE GOT, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT PETER WOMEN'S UPDATE? OR DO YOU HAVE MORE YOU WANT
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TALK ABOUT? >> THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY IS BECAUSE OF THE COURSE CONDITIONS THE WOMEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION HAS CANCELED ALL THEIR TOURNAMENTS THIS YEAR INCLUDING THE 27 HOLE TOURNAMENT WHICH BROUGHT WOMEN IN FROM GEORGIA, SOUTH JACKSONVILLE, DAYTONA BEACH. HUNDRED WOMEN FOR LOSS OF REVENUE FOR THAT AND IT'S VERY IMPERATIVE IMPORTANT TO US TO GET THE COURSE IN BETTER SHAPE. JUST THE SAME AS THE MEN'S
WITH KINDA BENT OVER THE MARKETING/GM UPDATE. NO ONE REALLY HAD GIVEN AN
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AGRONOMY UPDATE. I'LL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND I HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM FROM MR. MEADOWS. SO MR. MEADOWS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME.>> CAN I SEE THAT, I'M NEVER SEEN ONE OF THOSE. >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME'S MIKE MEADOWS OF THE 2601 VIA DELRAY. I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT TOPTRACER. I ASKED SEVERAL OF UOFU REALLY WANT TO KNOW A LOT ABOUT TOPTRACER AND WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. CITY MANAGER DALE GAVE A PRESENTATION TO THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND I THINK, TAIL YOU COULD CORRECTLY, ON JANUARY 8 2020. WE REALLY NEED TO GO LOOK AT THAT.
AND SOME OF MY NOTES AT THE TIME AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DO IT FOR $500,000. THAT WAS INCLUDING TOPTRACER, ALL THE PRACTICE GREENS AND REFURBISH THE BATHROOMS. I DON'T THINK THE BATHROOMS HAVE BEEN REFURBISHED.
I THINK WE'VE GIVE IT BACK 65,000 DOLLARS TO GET ADDITIONAL 60,000 TO COMPLETE THE BUILDING. IS THAT CORRECT? THEN WE GO BACK AND ASSESS CITY
COMMISSION? >> I BELIEVE MOST OF THAT MONEY WAS FOR THE DRIVING RANGE
ITSELF. >> WERE ALREADY OVER $60,000. AS FAR AS INDIGO IS CONCERNED THIS IS ALL IN-HOUSE DECISION. I WAS ASKED OF MR. DALE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT INDIGO GOLF HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS? AND I BELIEVE YOU SAID THIS IS
AN IN-HOUSE DECISION, CORRECT? >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TOP TRACER? ASK YES THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CONSULTED WITH BILLY CASPER. THEY PROVIDED SOME ASSISTANCE BUT NO, IT'S ENTIRELY ANAGED AND FUNDED BY THE ITY. THEY WERE PARTNERS IN ETTING
CONTACTS WITH TOPTRACER AND PROVIDING ADDITIONAL VICE. >> ARE YOU THE ONE THAT MADE
THE DECISION TO DO ALL THIS? HEY DIDN'T MAKE THE DECISION? >> THE CITY MADE THE DECISION.
>> OKAY. YEAH. AT THAT MEETING AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF YOU CAN. IF YOU COME BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE GOLF COURSE WAS COULD BE SHUT DOWN FOR 6 MONTHS, THAT
WAS SEPTEMBER. SO I THINK WE'VE LOST ABOUT. >> ARE YOU TALKING TOPTRACER?
OR ARE YOU TALKING NORTH NOW? >> THIS ENTIRE PROJECT FOR THE NORTH AND TOPTRACER.
IF I UNDERSTOOD IT CORRECT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED IN 6 MONTHS WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN SEPTEMBER. WERE NOT EVEN CLOSE. IT'S BEEN ALMOST A YEAR AND
WERE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO COMPLETING THIS. >> I THINK CHRIS DISCUSSED THAT
EARLIER. >> CHRIS WAS OVERSEEN TOPTRACER.
>> WERE TALKED ABOUT THE NORTH COURSE AND WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE AND WHAT HAPPENS.
>> I'M JUST CURIOUS. >> YOU GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE VIDEO.
I'VE URGED YOU TO DO IT. >> WHAT IS YOUR CONCERN? >> THAT WERE WAY BEHIND, OR 6
MONTHS BEHIND. >> WERE BEHIND AND OVER BUDGET. >> WERE LOSING REVENUE EVERY DAY. WE LOST $85,000 FOR THE REVENUE WE WOULD'VE MADE FROM THE DRIVING RANGE. ALONE. THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE BATHROOMS REFURBISHED UNLESS YOU CALL HAVING A COUPLE OF COUNTERTOPS INSTALLED.
THAT MADE IT WORSE WE TALKED ABOUT LIGHTING. AND HOW IT WAS GOING TO AFFECT
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THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING A STUDY HOW IT WAS GOING TO AFFECT THE AREA. I'M CURIOUS, IS THAT LIGHTING EVEN BEEN ORDERED AND HOW MUCHWILL THAT BE ADDED TO THIS PROJECT? >> OKAY YOU HAVE REACHED YOUR TIME SIR. WE WILL DEFINITELY COME UP THIS IS ALL PART OF, WILL PUT IT ON
THE TO DO LIST WRITE DOWN QUICK. >> LIKE US JANUARY 8, 2020 IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WAS WHEN THIS WAS DISCUSSED. GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE VIDEO.
MAYBE I'M WRONG. IF I AM I WILL APOLOGIZE. BUT THANK YOU.
>> YES SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. SO OBVIOUSLY WE ALL KNOW THAT TOPTRACER IN THE NORTH WERE BEHIND AND PROBABLY OVER BUDGET.
>> I GIVE SOME OF IT AS PART OF THE PROCESS AND SOME OF IT IS JUST PEOPLE SHOULD MAYBE DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER JOB. WERE WORKING THROUGH THESE THINGS.
I BELIEVE NOW THAT WE HAVE THE ADVISORY BOARD PUT TOGETHER WERE STARTING TO GET OUR FEET UNDER US AND MAKE THINGS AT LEAST A GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS. SO, THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC
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COMMENT. WE GOT PART OF AN UPDATE ON WHAT THE CITY'S PLAN IS WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF THE GOLF COURSE AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT 8 MONTHS.IN OUR FEES. SOFT OPENING IN MARCH, OPENING IN APRIL HOPEFULLY FOR TOPTRACER. WE WANT TO BE VERY MUCH MORE INVOLVED IN THE UP OPERATION AND DECISION-MAKING AT LEAST RECOMMENDATION SIDE OF THE GOLF COURSE.
NEXT MEETING WE WILL HAVE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE JUNIOR GOLF, UPDATES FROM THE NEWS STAFF, AND OF COURSE UPDATE. I'LL PROBABLY THROW ON HEIR ANOTHER TOPTRACER UPDATE JUST TO MAKE SURE WERE ONLINE DEPENDING ON THE DATE OF THE SOFT OPENING. AN UPDATE ON THAT. HOW IT WENT OR HOW IT'S PLANNING TO GO. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE REAL QUICK?
ALL RIGHT, >> IF THIS IS THE LOST OPPORTUNITY.
A PERSON MIGHT THINK CHRIS AND THE REST OF THE INDIGO TEAM. WHEN THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION STARTED LAST YEAR, THIS WAS NOT ABOUT OPERATIONAL MANAGEMENT THAT BILLY CASPER WAS PROVIDING THE CITY. THIS WAS A FINANCIAL DECISION TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE STOP THE BLEEDING WITH THE FINANCES POF THE GOLF COURSE. THAT IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I BELIEVE THE CITY HAD WITH INDIGO GOLF. I'VE ALWAYS HAD AN EXCEPTIONALLY PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH MR. SAIGON AND MR. CHANCEY, ALL THE WAY UP TO THE HEAD, FORMER HEAD OF INDIGO GOLF MR. BOB MORRIS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE BACK ON THE RECORD. BUT THIS WAS NOT ABOUT THE PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND INDIGO GOLF. SO, THANK YOU.
>> WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK INDIGO FOR THEIR SERVICE OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS ON THE RFP LIST AND WHAT YOU CAN OFFER TO US.
WITH THAT I WILL SEEK A MOTION TO ADJO
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.