Feb 02, 2021 Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> CALLED TO ORDER FEBRUARY 2 2021 READING. CAN YOU PLEASE BATTELLE.

-- CALL THE ROLL PICKED AS WE DO HAVE SOME HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. YOU WILL SET YOUR PERSONAL DEVICES TO AIRPLANE MODE OR TURNED THEM OFF THAT WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

NUMBER TWO WE ARE FOLLOWING COVID-19 PROTOCOLS. ALL MASKS OVER THE NOSE AT ALL TIMES. I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE NOT MADE FOR SPEAKING, THEY SLIP.

UNDER THE COVID-19 RULES, WE HAVE NO STANDING IN THE ROOM. IF THERE ARE NO SEATS AVAILABLE, WE DO HAVE THE CONFERENCE ROOM UPSTAIRS AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO WAIT.

THERE IS A TELEVISION WITH THE MEETING ON. SO, WHEN YOUR AGENDA ITEM COMES FORWARD, YOU CAN COME BACK DOWN. WE WILL OF COURSE WAIT FOR YOU. IF YOU COULD DO THAT FOR ME, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. FINALLY, THE DECORUM TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT.

TREAT EACH OTHER WITH DIGNITY AND WE WILL BE FINE. WITH THAT, VICE MAYOR LEADERS THROUGH THE PLEDGE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION BY REVEREND GRANARDO FELIX --

REVEREND GRANARDO FELIX. >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> IS REVEREND GRANARDO FELIX IN ATTENDANCE.

DO WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE THE CENTER FOR IT. >> I WILL JUMP IN.

>> FATHER GOD, WE GATHER TODAY THANKFUL FOR FELLOWSHIP. WE APPRECIATE THE TIME AND GRANT US THE WISDOM NEEDED TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS WHILE WE MEET TONIGHT.

BLESS OUR CITY AND BE WITH THE SPIRIT. TO ALL OF THIS WE SAY TOGETHER,

A MAN. THINK YOU COMMISSIONER. >> ITEM FOUR PROCLAMATIONS AND

[4.1 PROCLAMATION - NATIONAL AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH]

FEBRUARY IS AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH AND IN HONOR OF THE OCCASION, YOU WILL NOTICE IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS, WE ARE EXHIBITING THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF HONORABLE MAYOR CHARLES ALBERT, AND HONORABLE VICE MAYOR PATRICIA THOMAS. MAYOR ALBERT WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAYOR AND MS. THOMPSON SERVES AS THE CITY'S FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN COMMISSIONER/VICE MAYOR. MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THEIR LEADERSHIP, AND LIFELONG COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY SERVICE.

WITH THAT, I WILL READ THE FIRST PROCLAMATION. MR. PETERSON IS HERE.

>> IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU SIR. >> WHEREAS, AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1926 BY DOCTOR CARTER G WOODSON WHO SOUGHT TO BRING NATIONAL ATTENTION TO THE IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTIONS, AFRICAN-AMERICANS MADE TO THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.

DR. WHITSON, CHOSE FEBRUARY BECAUSE IT INCLUDES THE BIRTHDAYS OF AMERICAN ABOLITIONIST, MR. FREDERICK DOUGLAS, AMERICAN PUBLIC POET LANGSTON HUGHES AND PRESIDENT LET ABRAHAM LINCOLN. WHEREAS, FROM THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR, THROUGH THE ABOLITIONIST MOVEMENT TO MARCHES ACROSS AMERICA TODAY, AFRICAN AMERICANS REMAIN DEVOTED TO THE PROPOSITION THAT ALL OF US ARE CREATED EQUAL, EVEN WHEN THEIR OWN RIGHTS ARE DENIED.

AS WE REJOICE IN THE VICTORIES ONE BY MEN AND WOMEN, WHO BELIEVED IN THE IDEA OF A JUST

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AND WHEREAS ON FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL LEVELS, AFRICAN-AMERICANS FUNDAMENTALLY, AND ROBUSTLY, SHAPE OUR NATION'S ECONOMIC STRENGTH, WARTIME, AND EDUCATION SYSTEM.

AFRICAN-AMERICANS MAY ALSO BE CREDITED WITH MAKING VITAL ADVANCEMENTS IN PHYSICS, CHEMISTRY, BIOLOGY, MEDICINE, LAW AND LITERATURE TO NAME A FEW.

WHEREAS, FOR THE PAST 95 YEARS, AMERICANS FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, HUMBLY AND REVERENTLY OBSERVED AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH IN RECOGNITION OF THE MANY DISTINCT AND HONORABLE CONTRIBUTIONS AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE PROVIDED THROUGHOUT OUR GREAT NATION'S HISTORY.

THEREFORE NOW I MICHAEL A KREGER BY THE AUTHORITY INVESTED IN ME, AS THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA FLORIDA, DO PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, 2021 AS NATIONAL AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH. AND I URGE ALL CITIZENS TO DRAW STRENGTH ROM THE STORY OF HARD ONE PROGRESS WHICH NOT ONLY DEFINES THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO LIES AT THE HEART OF OUR NATION'S CONTINUED WORK TOWARDS AN INCLUSIVE FUTURE AND WITNESS WHEREOF, UNTO SET MY HAND AND THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH TO BE AFFIXED THIS SECOND DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2021. THANK YOU SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH FOR ALL THEY DID. I REALLY THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST HAVE A FEW WORDS AND I WILL BE OUT OF YOUR WAY. THE TIME IS ALWAYS RIGHT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR REMEMBERING BLACKS AND THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS. WE GIVE SPECIAL HONOR AND RECOGNITION TO THE FORMER MAYOR CHARLES AND THE FORMER VICE MAYOR PATRICIA THOMPSON.

ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE BLACKS IN THE CITY CALLED FERNANDINA BEACH, WE WILL NEVER FORGET YOUR KINDNESS. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. .

[4.2 PROCLAMATION - RAYONIER ADVANCED MATERIALS]

MANAGER AND UNION PRESIDENT. EVERYONE IS HERE. >> I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR HAVING ME READ THIS PROCLAMATION. I AM EXCITED TO READ IT AND I'M HONORED TO BE ON THE RAYONIER ADVANCED MATERIALS TEAM. WHERE AS THE RAYONIER ADVANCED MATERIALS FACILITY WAS CONSTRUCTED. FOR THE PAST YEARS, EMPLOYED THREE GENERATIONS OF CITY, AND REGIONAL RESIDENTS TO ENJOY BENEFITS OVER $90 MILLION ANNUALLY. RAYONIER ADVANCED MATERIALS CONTRIBUTES TO SALARIES AND PROPERTIES AND SALES TAXES AND WHEREAS, RAYONIER ADVANCED MATERIALS IS ARGUABLY ONE OF FERNANDINA'S LARGEST EMPLOYERS. THEY EMPLOY 300 PLUS DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS AND RESPONSIBLE FOR INDIRECTLY PROVIDING THOUSANDS OF JOBS IN THE LOBBYING, TRUCKING, CONTRACTING AND MAINTENANCE INDUSTRIES. WHEREAS, THE FERNANDINA BEACH PROVIDES SPECIALTIES USED IN A WIDE RANGE OF COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS AS WELL AS THROWING IN MILESTONES.

THE PRODUCTION OF ITS 10 MILLIONTH ACHIEVEMENT. THIS IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE COMMITMENT TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT AS DEMONSTRATED BY ADHERING TO THE HIGH STANDARDS

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FEBRUARY 2021. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CAN WE GET A QUICK PICTURE.

>> THANK YOU. I WILL LEAVE THIS WITH YOU. >> JUST A A FEW QUESTIONS.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND ONLINE, MY NAME IS MARK I AM THE GENERAL MANAGER.

WITH ME TODAY IS WAYNE PETERSON. HE IS OUR LONG-TERM EMPLOYEES OF THE MILL.

I HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED AT RAYONIER ADVANCED MATERIALS AND A CITY RESIDENT FOR 22 YEARS.

ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES, OVER THE LAST 82 YEARS WE THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION OF A MAJOR MILESTONE. IT IS A RARE ACHIEVEMENT.

IT HAS TAKEN THE EFFORTS OF THREE GENERATIONS OF WORKERS, VENDORS, COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND MORE TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE. IN ADDITION TO THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS PROVIDES MULTIPLE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF CONSUMER PRODUCTS AND RAW MATERIAL THAT HELPS TO SUSTAIN 250,000 ACRES IN THE REGION CORRECTS VERY PROUD AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE JOURNEY. AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS RECOGNITION AS ALWAYS, IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO LIVE AND WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

WE DO A LOT OF THAT. ON BEHALF OF THE UNION MEMBERS, WE WANT TO TELL THE CITY THANK

YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> AGENDA ITEM 4.3.

[4.3 *WASTE MANAGEMENT, INC.]

WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION. WASTE MANAGEMENT INC. >> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. >> FOR THE RECORD, GREG HUNTINGTON, WASTE MANAGEMENT.

BECAUSE I GUESS WE ARE LIMITED ON SPACE. I AM ACCOMPANIED BY MARCEL WHO IS THE GENERAL MANAGER. AS WELL AS WHO OVERSEES THE THAILAND OPERATIONS WHICH IS AN

ENTITY AND ADVANCES SERVICES. >> THEY CAN STAND AT THE PODIUM. >> IF THEY CAN HEAR ME THEY ARE WELCOME TO JOIN ME. I WILL DO MY BEST TO BE BRIEF AND AMAZING.

I KNOW THAT, YOU HAVE SO MANY OTHER ISSUES TO DEAL WITH. JUST TO DO A BRIEF HISTORY LESSON, WE PRESENTED BACK IN DECEMBER TO THIS COMMISSION, CONCERNING WHERE WE WERE ON THE STATE OF YOUR DEBRIS COLLECTION OR YARD COLLECTION. AT THAT TIME WE SUGGESTED WE HAD BEEN ACQUIRED WHICH YOU ALL KNEW. IT WAS EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 30.

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BACK UP. I KNOW WE HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS.

MR. STURGIS AND MR. BEAN. FOR NEARLY TEN YEARS, WE WOULD COLLECT THE YARD DEBRIS LOSE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A LIMIT ON IT. IT WOULD BE AT THE CURBSIDE.

WE WOULD DELIVER IT TO A PLACE AT THE AIRPORT WHERE THE CITY TOOK IT, CHIPPED IT AND SPREAD IT OR DISPOSED OF IT. THAT IS FINE. BUT UNDER THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL THAT WAS IN 2018, THE CITY WANTED TO GET OUT OF THAT BUSINESS.

IT WAS CLEAR IT WAS TO BE BACK THEN BUNDLED. COLLECTED AT THE CURBSIDE AND TAKEN OFF OF THE ISLAND AND DISPOSE. THERE WASN'T A LOT OF APPETITE FOR THAT. I DON'T THINK WE STARTED THAT ATTEMPT.

WE CONTINUE TO PICK UP YARD DEBRIS THE WAY WE HAVE. THE BIG DIFFERENCE, WE HAD TO TAKE IT OFF OF THE ISLAND. TRAVEL TIME, DISPOSAL COSTS AND ALL OF THAT.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE JANUARY 2019. WE WERE AWARDED THE CONTRACT IN 2018. WE EXTENDED THE CONTRACT FOR SIX MONTHS IN ORDER FOR US TO GET NEW TRUCKS. AT THAT TIME WE PROVIDED THE RESIDENCE UNDER THIS NEW CONTRACT, NEW MSW CARTS, AND 65 GALLON CART RECYCLES. AND NEW TRUCKS TO SERVICE IT.

WE DID NOT RAISE THE RESIDENTIAL RATE AT ALL. WE KEPT IT THE SAME.

WHAT WE DID WITH THE COMMERCIAL IS WHAT WE DID. AT THE ONSET OF THE CONTRACT WE DIDN'T RAISE THE RESIDENTIAL RATE. OF OVER, WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO, WITH THE CONTRACT, AND THE COLLECTION OF YARD DEBRIS IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING.

WHAT YOU YEARS NOW, WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING A SERVICE OF YARD WHERE COLLECTIONS WHERE WE HAVE BEEN LOSING MONEY ON THE RESIDENTIAL. WHEN I CAME HERE IN DECEMBER, LET ME GET TO THIS. ARE PRESENTED TWO OPTIONS. EITHER A, WE GO BACK TO WHAT THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE WAS WHICH WAS BAGS AND BUNDLES, OR WE CONTINUE TO SERVICE THE CITY THE WAY WE DO IT WITH THAT IMPROVEMENT WITH A RATE INCREASE. THERE WAS A THIRD OPTION STRONGLY ARGUING, IT WAS NOT FAIR TO THE RESIDENCE. SO WE PRESENTED BAGS AND BUNDLES AND WE PRESENTED IT AT THE TIME A RATE INCREASE. I WILL JUST BRIEFLY, THE CONTRACT OF PUBLIC RECORD. THE ONLY TWO PLACES YOU WILL FIND YARD DEBRIS IN THE CONTRACT IS IN THE DEFINITION SECTION ON PAGE EIGHT AND ON PAGE 18. BOTH OF THOSE CLEARLY IDENTIFY YARD DEBRIS BE IT LEAVES THEY ARE CONTAINED WHETHER THEY ARE IN A BAG OR WHETHER THEY ARE IN A SYSTEM THEY BROUGHT FOR THEMSELVES. OR, TREE LIMBS.

THE CONTRACT IS CONTRADICTED ITSELF BUT WE CAN GO WITH THE LARGER AMOUNT WHICH IS 6 INCHES IN DIAMETER AND THEY NEED TO BE BUNDLED WHICH BUNDLED IS IDENTIFIED AS TO FAST, TIRE OR GROUP THINGS TOGETHER. THINK ABOUT IT. WHEN YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE, THAT EMPLOYEE WILL PICK UP ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 50,000.

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AND IT MAY BE GREATER THAN WHAT YOU MAY FIND IN A COLDER CLIMATE.

I WISH I COULD SAY THAT WAS NOT FEASIBLE BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED.

I DO HAVE A MARKETING TEAM WORKING OUT TO SAY THIS IS WHAT THE CONTRACT STATES.

WHAT WE WON'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE NONCOMPLIANT LOADS. IF YOU HAVE LOOSE DEBRIS WE WILL TRACK IT AS NONCOMPLIANT AND NOT PICK IT UP. MY GUESS IS, MOST OF YOUR RESIDENTS DO NOT WANT TO GO TO BACKS AND BUNDLES. SO THEN WE WERE ASKED TO COME UP WITH PROVIDING THE SERVICE YOU ARE GETTING WITH AN IMPROVEMENT. WHEN I WAS HERE DECEMBER I PROMOTED 697. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, PART OF THAT IS A 10% FRANCHISE FEE. I THINK YOU CAN SEE IT APPEAR. WE WERE ASKED, SHARPEN YOUR PENCILS. WE CUT INTO WHAT WE BELIEVED TO BE THE ACCEPTABLE MARGINS AND SAID WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY AND OFFER 581, WHICH IS $1.60. WHEN YOU FACTOR -- WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE FRANCHISE FEE, THAT GOES TO YOUR SANITATION OR GENERAL FUND.

SO WE COME OFF 1 DOLLAR. LET ME SAY ON THE FRONT END, I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS WHOM I MET WITH IN PERSONAL YESTERDAY. I ALSO TALKED TO COMMISSIONER STURGIS AND COMMISSIONER KREGER AND MAYOR LEDNOVICH HAD A CONFLICT WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE. AFTER HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS IT WAS CLEAR TO ME, OPTION ONE AND OPTION TO THERE WAS NO APPETITE FOR IT. SO OPTION THREE, WOULD BE THAT THE CITY THEMSELVES, WAS DONE IT IN THE PAST, TAKING OVER THE YARD TO BE -- THE YARD DEBRIS SERVICES AND WE WOULD BE COMPLETELY OUT OF IT. WE ARE FINE WITH THAT.

WE ARE GOOD WITH THAT OPTION. WE REALIZE THAT CANNOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

THE CITY HAS TO ACQUIRE A VEHICLE AND SOLD THE APPEAL WAS AND JEREMIAH WILL FOLLOW ME, WHERE THE CITY WOULD TAKE THOSE SERVICES OVER ON JULY 1. WE WOULD ASSIST FROM MARCH UNTIL JULY 1. WE ARE STILL APPEALING IN THAT TIMEFRAME IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE LOST MONEY FOR TWO YEARS. WE JUST THINK IT IS REASONABLE.

HOW WE GET THERE, WE DO HAVE A SANITATION FUND. WE CAN WORK WITH MICHAEL TONIGHT WOULD BE, THAT YOU CAN AT LEAST HAVE SOME'S FORM OF CONSENSUS ABOUT MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION WHERE, IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY YESTERDAY, YOU WOULD BE OPEN TO THE IDEA AND THE CITY TAKING OVER THE SERVICES FOR A FOUR MONTH PERIOD OF TIME. WITH THAT SAID, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE SOME DIRECTION TONIGHT AS TO WHERE WE ARE HEADED. IT SEEMS LIKE OPTION THREE IS WHERE THE CITY WANTS TO GO.

>> WE WILL HEAR FROM JEREMIAH. I WANT TO COMMENT ON WHICH OPTION I THINK IS BEST FOR ME.

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I DO WANT TO SAY, WE DO WANT TO MAKE AN OPTION. >> THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> I WORK FOR PUBLIC WORKS. THANK YOU FOR THE OVERVIEW. TO FALL IN LINE WITH THAT I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES. WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET INVOLVED.

THE FIRST THING THAT WAS MENTIONED, THE OPTION OF THE YARD DEBRIS THIS IS A FRANCHISE FEE. WHAT IS CHARGED AND PAID TO THE CITY, WE TACKED ON A LITTLE BIT BEFORE IT GOES ON TO THE RESIDENT AND THAT IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING FOR THIS IS THE TOTAL FOR THE RTV PROGRAM. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW. FOR US TO TAKE THIS IN-HOUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT A BUDGET OF 470K THOUSAND 4-YARD DEBRIS. WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS WHERE THE SAVINGS WOULD BE BECAUSE WERE NOT MAKING AN HOUR TRIP TO THE LANDFILL BECAUSE WE CAN DROP OFF AIR AND GET BACK ON THE ROUTE LIKE WE USED TO DO. THEY WOULD LOWER OUR RATE IF THEY GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS BUT WE ARE TACKING ON $3 TO PROPERLY RESTORE THE SERVICE TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. THE FUND IS HEALTHY, IT DOES CONTRIBUTE TO THE THINGS NEEDED TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. AS WAS MENTIONED, -- WE HAVE SEN THREE DIFFERENT PLANS ONE WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT WITH THE CITY. IN MY OPINION THE CHOICE IS CLEAR, THE ONE SUSCEPTIBLE AMENDMENT IS WHERE WE DO NOT RAISE RATES WHICH IS THE BACK AND BUNDLES.

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>> THIS HAS BEEN FLOATING AROUND FOREVER. MY CONCERN WAS THAT THERE WAS A 20% INCREASE, FOR THE CITIZENS BECAUSE MANY DON'T USE THIS. ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE SITTING SITTING HERE WITH THESE OPTIONS LOOKING FOR ACTION I THINK IT WOULD BE A DISASTER IF WE GO ANOTHER ROUTE. THE STREETS OF OUR CITY AS USE THIS METHOD FOR 35 YEARS.

IT WORKS FAIR WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF LEAVES, HALF THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM, AND YOU HAVE TO GET RID OF THEM, BACK AND BUNDLES WOULD TAKE TONS OF HOURS, I AM SURE THE CITIZENS WOULD NOT MIND A 3-DOLLAR INCREASE PER MONTH. I PREFER THE CITY TAKING IT OVER BECAUSE I STILL HAVE WASTE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE TO THIS DAY THAT HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR TWO WEEKS. I HAVE MY CHRISTMAS TREE OUT THERE.

WHEN MY PHONE RANG, WHEN I CALLED THE CITY AND SAID THE MISS WAS VERY RARE, I WOULD GET IT REMOVED. NOTHING AGAINST WASTE MANAGEMENT BECAUSE IT HAS HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEALT WITH THEIR STUFF BY THE TONS. I AM NOT UPSET THAT THEIR SERVICES CHANGE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE HAD A MONUMENTAL TASK TO DO IT BUT THE CITY SHOULD RAISE A $3 AND THEY SHOULD GET BACK INTO THE BUSINESS OF DOING YARD WASTE.

IT IS A PROBLEM TO TAKE IT TO THE DUMP. HE DID NOT GO INTO THE PROCEDURES I'M TAKING IT TO THE AIRPORT BUT WE WOULD HAVE A STATION WITH A GRINDER.

THEN WE WILL USE IT AND CITIZEN SHOULD COME OUT AND LOAD THEIR VEHICLE UP AND TAKE THE STUFF BACK. THEY WILL REMOVE IT AS IT NEEDS TO BE.

I BELIEVE, THAT IS THE BEST OPTION. THANK YOU SIR.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. FINANCIAL BACKING AND BUNDLING. MR. KREGER WAS ON THE PHONE ONE DAY. ORIGINALLY, I VOTED AGAINST GOING OUT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT.

BUT I DID VOTE FOR BACKING AND BUNDLING. AT THE TIME THE THOUGHT WAS, IT WOULD TAKE CARE OF STUFF GETTING OUT OF THE STREET. THAT WAS A MISTAKE.

I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY THAT I VOTE THAT WAY. SO THERE YOU GO.

BAG -- BAG THINKING WHAT THEY ARE REPOSING WILL THE CITY STILL BE IN THE BUSINESS.

THE CITY WILL STILL HAVE A CAUSE. IF THEY DO NOT MEET THE CRITERIA OF BACKING AND BUNDLING, THEY ARE LEAVING IT BEHIND. THE CITY WILL COME GET IT.

THE CITY WILL HAVE TO COME GET IT. THE CITY WILL HAVE COSTS, THE COSTS WILL GO UP BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY REVENUE SERVICE TO COVER IT.

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I THINK WE WILL END UP PAYING, WE WILL HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WE HAVE BAGS AND WE ARE BUNDLING BUT WE HAVE OTHER TRASH OUT THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WASTE MANAGEMENT, I SELDOM GET A COMPLAINT ABOUT REGULAR TRASH PICKUP.

I THINK THEY DO A GOOD JOB. THERE ARE OVER 600,000 ACCOUNTS AND THAT IS A LOT OF TRASH TO PICK UP AND I THINK THEY DO A GOOD JOB. FOR THE LAST YEARS IT HASN'T WORKED OUT AND THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT I CAN'T, USED TO BE TRASH ON THE BEACH.

THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT. I THINK, THE CITY, I WOULD GO FOR OPTION TWO OR THREE WHICH IS THE CITY TAKING THIS OVER. I THINK THE CITY HAS PEOPLE HERE ALL OF THE TIME. THE CITY IS THE ONE, THEY NEVER BLAME WASTE MANAGEMENT, THEY ALWAYS BLAME THE CITY. SO, I WOULD SUPPORT WITH THE COMMISSIONER.

FOR THE REASONS FOR THAT I STATED. VICE MAYOR?

>> I SENT I LIKE WHAT HE SENT BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A DISASTER.

>> I, I AM ANNOYED BECAUSE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO THIS LEVEL AND EVERYTHING IS AT THE LAST MINUTE. THE $3 IS $3. THERE ARE PROVISIONS WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET WAIVERS TO PAY THESE BILLS IF THAT'S NECESSARY. IT IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY TO YOU AND I BUT MAYBE TO OTHERS. IN THE END, I AM SUPPORTING THAT BECAUSE I DO NOT LIKE IT WHEN I AM SUPPORTING IT. I THINK IT WILL WORK. AFTER HEARING YOU GUYS SPEAK, I REALIZE I AM IN THE MINORITY. WHAT I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT BANKING AND BUNDLING WILL BE TOUGH. I DIDN'T WRITE THE CONTRACT. THAT IS WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

I DID NOT ADVOCATE FOR THIS WHEN I DON'T LIKE IS RAISING RATES. I BELIEVE I WAS ELECTED TO STOP RATE INCREASES TO STOP TAXES. I THINK THAT IS WHY I AM HERE. I NEED TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT.

I BELIEVE MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE UPSET WITH THE RATE INCREASE THEN PEOPLE WITH BAGGING AND BUNDLING. NOT EVERYONE USES THE SERVICE TAKING AWAY YARD WASTE BUT EVERYONE USES TRASH. I WOULD AGREE, IN FACT I WOULD HAVE TO -- I STILL ADVOCATE FOR PLAN ONE WHICH INVOLVES NO RATE INCREASE. I WILL ALSO FIGHT FOR LOWER

TAXES. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE.

PRESENCE ARE BEING CHARGED $22. WE BREAK IT DOWN, $4.70, YOU WOULD HAVE TO MINUS OUT THE FRANCHISE FEE IN ORDER TO GET THE RATE BEING PAID TO US. WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS, IF WE GET COMPLETELY OUT OF THE BUILDING BUSINESS. THE COST DOES NOT GO TO 0 JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE FIXED COSTS. SO WE WOULD STILL NEED TO GET TO GET THE $1.30.

THE CITY WOULD THEN GET THE DIFFERENCE UP 332 WHICH WOULD BE INCOME TO THE CITY.

SO, YOU ARE NOT INCREASING THE RATE IN ORDER TO TAKE OVER THE SERVICE INCIDENT.

WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IS THAT THERE BE SOME FORM OF COMPENSATION THAT WE CAN ASSIST WITH THAT TRANSITION BECAUSE WE HAVE LOST MONEY FOR TWO YEARS. YOU'RE NOT RAISING RATES ON THE

CITIZENS,. >> I WANT TO MAKE A FINAL POINT ON THAT.

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IT IS AN INCREASE. I WILL JUST.OUT, EVEN IF WE DO GO TO BAG AND FUN DEALING YOU WILL PAY FOR IT SOMEHOW. EITHER THAT MONEY HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY WILL PICK UP THE TRASH. IT IS NOT BUDGET IS DOWN. YOU WILL PAY, YOU WILL PAY FOR THAT SERVICE. WHEN BUDGET TIME ROLLS AROUND OR AT SOME POINT WE HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND SAY WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM TO PAY FOR THIS SERVICE, THERE'S A LOT OF TRASH THAT NEEDS TO BE PICKED UP. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T BE HAPPY WHEN THERE STREETS ARE FULL. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT, THEY WILL HAVE A LOT.

PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR SERVICES THAT THEY DON'T OFTEN USE. SO I AM SAYING WHAT HE PUT

FORTH. >> IN THE LONG HAUL, THIS MAY NOT BE A SHORT PROBLEM TO FIX.

WHEN THE CITY GETS THE EQUIPMENT WHEN THEY GET THE STUFF TO DO THE JOB THE COST WILL GO DOWN OVER TIME BECAUSE IT WILL BE A COST SAVINGS AFTER WE GET THE EQUIPMENT AFTER WE START USING IT JUST LIKE EVERYTHING IT IS COST UPFRONT, WHAT WOULD IT COST, SAVINGS AFTER THE

EQUIPMENT, $250,000 PER YEAR OR WOULD IT COST MORE. >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR

THE RECORD. >> JEREMIAH, PUBLIC WORKS. WE SPREAD THE CAPITAL OVER A SEVEN-YEAR PERIOD SO WE COULD GET A MORE FIXED COST YOU WOULD HAVE A CAPITAL EXPENSE EVERY FEW YEARS FOR A NEW TRUCK. WE WENT WITH THE FINANCE PURCHASE OPTION SO WE COULD DETERMINE OUR MORE FIXED COST GOING FORWARD. YOU ARE RIGHT, IT HAS BEEN A FEW YEARS SO WE DID PRICE WORST-CASE SCENARIO. WE EXPECT TO COME IN TO DO THAT FOR LESS. ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, KNOWING THAT THE FRUSTRATION WITH THE BACK AND BUNDLE PLATFORM AND KEEPING THE GRAPPLE THE OPINION, WE DID DO THE SURVEY JUST TO GET A PULSE ON THE COMMITTEE ON WHAT THEY WANT. NOT SURPRISINGLY IT CAME BACK 42%. 40% SAID WE WOULD DO BAG AND BUNDLE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME FROM COMMUNITY'S WHERE THAT WAS GONE. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE FAMILIAR

WITH. >> WE CAN TAKE THE RESIDUAL TO THE LANDFILLS.

YOU WILL SPEND PART OF THE BUDGET AND TAKING THESE CHIPS TO THE DUMP.

THAT IS WHERE MOST OF THE STUFF WILL GO. SO IF YOU HAVE COMPOSTING.

THAT COULD BE A BETTER WAY FOR YOU TO SELL THIS. THERE ARE WAYS WAYS WE CAN LOOK

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AT CUTTING COSTS. >> COULD YOU GO TO THE SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOWED THE BAG AND BUNDLING. THIS SIDE, I LIVE ON PARKWAY NORTH AND CANOPY DRIVE WHICH IS APTLY NAMED. IT IS A LITERAL TREE CANOPY ABOUT 50 HOMES THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS, IN MY COMMUNITY, I WOULD SAY ARE OVER THE AGE OF 75.

THERE IS NO WAY THEY WILL BAG AND BUNDLE. WHEN THE DEBRIS COMES DOWN IN MY COMMUNITY, THESE ARE LARGE LIMBS. YOU NOTICE HOW THE BUNDLING ALL OF THE BRANCHES HAVE BEEN CUT OFF AND SORTED INTO SINGLE BRANCHES.

THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, YOU WILL REQUIRE A CHAINSAW.

SOME OF THESE LIMBS ARE LARGE. I SUPPORT WHAT THE COMMISSIONER IS SAYING, LIMITED GOVERNMENT LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS. I SUPPORT EVERY WORD OF THAT, BUT HERE IS THE NET RESULT.

AND I WILL SPEAK JUST IN MY COMMUNITY. WHAT WILL HAPPEN, BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE RESIDENTS, THEY WILL DRAG IT OUT TO THE CURB AND THE CITY WILL HAVE TO PICK IT UP.

THAT IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN. I SEE THIS AND IT IS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE ARE BIG PILES. WE WILL PAY FOR IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

I DO NOT THINK BACK AND BUNDLING WILL WORK. IT WON'T BE A SOLUTION FOR US.

THIS IS NOT AN ITEM TO BE APPROVED OR DISAPPROVED. SO CITY ATTORNEY, DO WE NEED A RESOLUTION ON THE NEXT AGENDA. HOW DO WE PROCEED IF WE WANT TO GO WITH THE CITY PLAN.

DO WE NEED A CITY RESOLUTION TO VOTE ON IT? >> I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BUILD ON THESE ITEMS TONIGHT. YOU LEGALLY CLIENT -- I CAN BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD BRING A RESOLUTION BACK. THE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE THE EARLIEST AND WE WOULD NEED CLEAR DIRECTION TONIGHT TO DO THAT. IT IS UP TO WASTE MANAGEMENT OUT THE CONTRACT IS HANDLED.

IT IS AN ORDINANCE. WE DO HAVE A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT WE ADOPT BY ORDINANCE.

TWO READINGS. THE EARLIEST WOULD BE FEBRUARY 16 AND MARCH 16, OR

MARCH 2 AND THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL. >> MY PLEASURE IS TO PROCEED WITH THE CITY TAKING OVER. I HEAR BRADLEY SAYS -- I HEAR WHAT BRADLEY HAD SAID.

I REALLY BELIEVE THE BAG AND BUNDLE METHOD WILL NOT WORK HERE.

I THINK WE SHOULD TASK THEM WITH PROCEEDING WITH THE RATE. IF THE RATE WAS AN INCREASE, IF IT WAS $3, CURRENTLY WASTE MANAGEMENT IS GETTING 0 ON THE RATE INCREASE.

IF IT IS TO HELP THEM OUT, PAID THEM THE SAME $3 THAT THE CITY WOULD MAKE WHEN THEY INCREASE IN AND GO ON. THAT IS AS SIMPLE AS IT GETS. THEN ONCE WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, AND JEREMIAH TAKES IT OVER, IT WILL BE SMOOTH AND SEAMLESS. THAT IS MY OPINION.

>> I WOULD BROADEN IT AND SAY, HAVE THE CITY BRING BACK SOMETHING TO THE NEXT COMMISSION

MEETING. THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS. >> I AGREE.

I AGREE IN CONCEPT BUT I THINK WE SHOULD GO WITH THE CITY AND COME BACK AS A PROPOSAL.

I DO WONDER, IF WE WILL ADD $3 TO THE BUILDING WILL BE CHARGED OURSELVES.

WILL WE PUT THE FRANCHISE FEE ON THE WHOLE THING? >> THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU SIR. >> FINAL COMMENTS. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO SAY WE APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE DO SHARE IN PROVIDING THESE SERVICES.

BE IT THE RECYCLABLES, OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE YARD DEBRIS, WE WANT TO DO WHAT IS BEST WITH THE CITY. WE DO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH STAFF TO FIGURE IT OUT AND HAVE SOMETHING TO YOU ON FEBRUARY 16.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WORK YOU DID ON THAT PROPOSAL IN PRESENTING TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE ON 4.3. I SEE NONE ITEM FIVE, PUBLIC

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I HAVE SOMETHING, JUST TO BE COURTEOUS, I DON'T THINK ANYONE INFORMED THE HUMANE SOCIETY WE CHANGE THE AGENDA BUT WE DO HAVE SOMEONE HERE. WE DO HAVE THE DOG OF THE MONTH.

SO IF YOU COULD BRING THEM IN. >> LET US SEE GEORGE. BRING IN GEORGE.

>> HELLO. WE ARE SO SORRY. I DIDN'T KNOW AND I DID NOT

CHECK. BUT HERE I AM. >> COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? THIS IS GEORGE, HE WAITED SO PATIENTLY.

THAT IS IT. HE HAS BEEN JUST HANGING OUT IN THE LOBBY.

GEORGE IS 2-YEARS-OLD. HE WAS HAPPY TO GET OUT OF THE SHELTER AND HANG OUT HERE TONIGHT. HE SAW THE SUNSET. TAT IS IT.

>> WOW, WELCOME GEORGE. >> WE HAVE BEEN HANGING OUT. WE HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 5:45 P.M. HE HAS JUST BEEN CHILLING IN THE LOBBY.

>> GOOD FOR HIM. HE IS A GOOD BOY. >> YOU SHOULD TAKE HIM HOME.

>> MAY BE SOMEONE HERE CAN DO IT. MY HANDS ARE FULL.

HE IS HOUSEBROKEN. I AM SURE HE IS GOOD WITH KIDS. HE DOES WELL WITH OTHER DOGS.

HE WAS IN A HOME WITH TWO CHIHUAHUAS AND HE GOT AGGRESSIVE WITH THE PEOPLE BUT HE IS DOG FRIENDLY. HE IS GREAT ON HIS LEASE. THIS IS GEORGE.

HE IS GREAT WITH PEOPLE THAT IS WHAT, I MEAN. >> WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]

I HAVE TWO ITEMS. PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN?

WELCOME COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU. >> PHILIP CHAPMAN 2120 FLORIDA

AVENUE. SORRY UP TO TAKE MY GLASSES OFF. >> CITY ATTORNEY, WILL YOU START

THE CLOCK? >> I'M SORRY. >> WE HAVE SEEN MANY BEHAVIORS OF PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT THAT HAS BEEN DISTURBING TO ME. THEY INCLUDE AN ABUSE OF POWER, TOTAL DISRESPECT FOR THE PROCESS AND PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT AND ACTING INAPPROPRIATELY.

I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN HERE. I HAD AN IDEA.

PERHAPS THE CITY MANAGER CAN PUT TOGETHER A WORKSHOP TO PREVENT THIS, I HAVE DEVELOPED AREAS OF CONCERN THAT I THINK WOULD SERVE AS GREAT TOPICS. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE SESSION GOOD DEAL WITH THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE COMMISSIONER MEETING SOMEONE RUNNING AGAINST THEM AND SAY TO

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>> WINDOWS OR CHAIRPERSON ON TO THE COMMISSIONER DOES NOT COMPLY.

EVEN IF THAT'S RIGHT EVEN WHEN IT IS THEIR WIFE. FINALLY, MY SPINAL SESSION WOULD BE A SESSION ON THE RESPECT FOR THE BOARDS THAT SERVE THE CITY. HOW IMPROPER IT WOULD BE IF A COMMISSIONER WERE TO ATTEND A BOARD MEETING AND ASK AN APPLICANT WHY HE WAS THERE FOR THE QUOTE SHEET SHOW. LOUD ENOUGH FOR SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE CHAMBERS TO HEAR HIM.

I FIND THAT DISRESPECTFUL TO THE BOARD AND THE CHAMBERS. THESE COMMENTS ARE JUST SUGGESTIONS FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO CONSIDER. IF HE SHOULD DECIDE THAT NO COMMISSIONER SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. I BELIEVE A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS WOULD PREVENT THAT. OR THE RECORD, IF ANYONE CHOOSES TO WRITE AN OPINION PIECE FOR THE PAPER, YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO USE MY NAME. IT IS PHILIP WITH 1L.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS BRENT BYRON.

1438 SOUTH FLETCHER, REGARDING THE TRASH AND PICKUP. I THINK WITH THE SEVEN PARKS WE HAVE HERE, AND THIS PARK WITH BEACHFRONT PROPERTY THAT WE WILL SOON ADDRESS AND IMPLEMENT, IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA AS DAVID SAID, TO USE THE NATURAL MATERIALS WE HAVE ON THIS ISLAND, TO BUILD OR TO BUILD OUR GUARDING MAKE IT INTO USEFUL STUFF THAT NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE CAN USE. IT SAVES MONEY AND IMPROVES THE AREA.

>> DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? I SEE NINE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO

[6.1 ANTARES GOLF (BILLY CASPER) GOLF AGREEMENT]

BEFORE THIS IS PRESENTED, JUST REMEMBER, I NEED A MOTION I NEED A MOTION ON THE RESOLUTIONS HERE. THIS IS A PROPOSAL AND A PROPOSAL, WE HAVE EXPIRED AGREEMENTS WITH THIS GROUP, WE DID DO A 60 DAY EXTENSION. I AM JUST GOING TO SUMMARIZE WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS. THE TERM OF THE PROPOSAL IS ANOTHER FIVE YEARS WITH 25 YEAR EXTENSIONS AT THE OPTION OF -- THEY CAN'T EXERCISE THE OPTIONS. UNLESS THERE IS A DEFAULT THERE,

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THIS IS A THIRD AMENDMENT. THE FIRST TWO WERE DONE OVER THE LAST YEARS.

THEY WERE PRETTY MINOR. THE REASON IS IT'S NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

IT DOES PROVIDE FOR DEFINITION AND A CALCULATION FOR AN INCENTIVE FEE THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT. THE MANAGEMENT FEE WILL BE LESS. IT IS PROPOSED TO BE $84,000

ANNUALLY. STARTING ON FEBRUARY 1. >> CURRENTLY, IT IS WET.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER. I BELIEVE IT IS APPROXIMATELY $95,000.

THERE WAS A FLAT FEE SENT. THERE IS A COST-OF-LIVING ANNUAL INCREASE.

I SAY $10,000 LESS BEING PROPOSED FOR THE MANAGEMENT FEE. THEY WILL AND THEY HAVE TO PAY THAT FEE REGARDLESS. IN ADDITION, THERE IS AN INCENTIVE MANAGEMENT FEE THAT WOULD BE EQUAL TO 'S 25% OF THE NET OPERATING INCOME. ABOVE 1 DOLLAR.

FOR THE FIRST YEAR, AND AN INCREASE EACH SUBSEQUENT. THERE IS, THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF FISCAL YEAR 2021, THEY WOULD HAVE 25% OF THE NET OPERATING INCOME OVER A DOLLAR.

THEY WOULD CORRECT ME IF I HAVE MISSTATED ANY OF THESE. THERE IS A TERMINATION FOR CONVENIENCE WHICH MEANS THE CITY CAN TERMINATE FOR ANY REASON, THIS BEGINS AFTER JUNE 30, THE CITY MAY TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT WITH SIX MONTHS PRIOR NOTICE AND PAY A TERMINATION FEE.

THAT IS 50% OF THE CURRENT BASE MANAGEMENT FEE, WHATEVER THAT IS.

IT IS WAIVED IN THE FINAL YEAR OF THE FIRST EXTENSION TERM. BASICALLY AT YEAR TEN BACK.

THERE IS A RIGHT OF TERMINATION FOR CAUSE WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO CAUSE THE CITY TO TERMINATE IT. IT REQUIRES A CANCELLATION FEE OR PENALTY.

WE CANNOT DO THIS FOR CAUSE. OPERATING INCOME, DOES NOT EQUAL OR EXCEED 80% OF THE BUDGETED NET OPERATING INCOME. WHEN YOU SET THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR, IF THEY DO NOT MAKE THE INCOME OF 80%, THAT MEANS IT WAS A DEFAULT UNDER THE CONTRACT. THEY DID NOT PERFORM.

THAT WOULD BE A REASON TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT. THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE 30 DAYS NOTICE AND THE CITY DOES HAVE TO HONOR REGIONAL THING. NET OPERATING INCOME THE METHODOLOGY FOR CALCULATING IT IS CONSISTENTLY APPLIED TO ANY FISCAL YEAR.

WE DO HAVE TO GIVE A 30 DAY NOTICE THAT THEY HAVE NOT MET THIS.

IF THE CITY EXERCISES THIS OR TERMINATING THE CONTRACT, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO NULLIFY THE TERMINATION BY PAYING TO THE CITY THE AGGREGATE AMOUNT NET OPERATING INCOME FOR THE APPLICABLE YEAR, BY WHICH THE APPLICABLE YEAR WAS LESS THAN THE INCOME THRESHOLD.

SO THE 80% THRESHOLD AND IF THEY CAN'T MEET THAT THEY CAN MAKE THAT UP BY PAYING? BEGINNING IN 2022, THEY WILL HAVE THE QUALITY CONTROL SCORECARDS THAT HAVE A CONDITION

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DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. WE HAVE A STRAIGHT CONTRACT NOW THERE IS AN INCENTIVE FEE BUT IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE. THIS IS MUCH DIFFERENT.

IT IS BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY MEET THE BUDGETED AMOUNT. WE AGREE ON A BUDGET DO WE MAKE THAT INCOME. HAVE THEY DONE THAT JOB. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

THOSE ARE THE MAJOR TERMS THEY ARE PROPOSING. THIS IS BASICALLY AN EXTENSION OF CONTRACT. ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS WOULD STAY IN FORCE.

I KNOW THEY DO HAVE SOME SLIDES OR PRESENTATIONS THAT THEY WANT TO GIVE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? YES OR.

YOU SAID, THERE ARE THREE FIVE-YEAR CONTRACTS BUT I THOUGHT I READ AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS YOU COULD GIVE SOME NOTICE AND NOT RENEW, IS THAT CORRECT OR IS IT AUTOMATIC OR ARE THEY AUTOMATIC UNLESS EITHER SIDE -- I DO NOT HAVE THE STANDARD, THE FIRST TERM IS 2025 AND WILL AUTOMATICALLY RENEW FOR TWO ADDITIONAL TERMS ON EACH ANNIVERSARY DATE UNLESS EITHER PARTY GIVES THE DESIRE NOT TO. LET ME JUST GO HERE. I THINK WE NEED A MOTION ON

THIS. >> I MOVED TO OPEN DISCUSSION. I MOVED TO -- I MOVED TO

AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE. >> I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, IT IS

A MUTUAL AGREEMENT FOR THE FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT. >> I WILL TELL YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING I WAS NOT PREPARED TO GIVE THIS PRESENTATION.

I APOLOGIZE THAT I DID NOT HAVE EVERYTHING FROM RIGHTS. >> CITY COURT.

>> DO I HAVE THE SECOND MOTION. >> OUR SECOND PERIOD. >> SO, WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE VICE MAYOR KRIEGER. WEEKEND NOW I HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

I BELIEVE GOT A SECOND QUESTION. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> THE DETERMINATION FOR CONVENIENCE AND MY ARITHMETIC AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.

THAT WOULD NOT KICK IN FOR 17 MONTHS. >> JUNE 30, 2022.

THAT IS 17 MONTHS. YOU WOULD HAVE TO GIVE SIX-MONTH NOTICE, AND YOU PAID $42,000.

THE TERMINATION FOR CAUSE, WILL KICK IN AND IT IS BASED ON A FINANCIAL METRIC WHICH ISN'T THAT DIFFICULT OR QUALITY STANDARD. THIS BOOK LARGELY WHERE JUDGES THE QUALITY OF THE CONTRACT. IS THAT CORRECT. THERE IS SOME OBJECTIVITY WITH THE NUMBERS, WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK THEY ARE DOING THE SCORECARD.

>> THE CITY WOULD EMPLOY AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT. >> I DON'T HAVE EXHIBIT B IN FRONT OF ME. THIS WOULD BE BASED ON A BASELINE.

NOT SUBJECTIVE BUT HOW WOULD IT BE DETERMINED. >> WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WHAT THEY HAVE, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHETHER THIS NEW COMPANY IS BEING BROUGHT OUT, WHETHER THEY

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THAT IS MY OPINION ABOUT IT, I WOULD JUST AS SOON SEE SIX OR EIGHT CITY RESIDENTS GET HIRED AND RUN THE GOLF COURSE. I KNOW I HAVE HEARD ONE PERSON CALL ME AND SAY, THE GOLF COURSE HAS AN EXCELLENT REPUTATION OF DOING A GOOD JOB. THAT IS WHERE I AM COMING FROM WITH VOICES OF A LOT OF CITY RESIDENTS THAT HAVE TOLD ME IT IS A DISGRACE OUT THERE.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT RENEWING A CONTRACT, ESPECIALLY WITH A 15 YEAR TOTAL TIMELINE.

>> JUST A POINT OF ORDER, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE GOLF COURSE TO HAVE PRESENTATIONS THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED TO US. WHO DO YOU HAVE DESIGNATED FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> TONY CHANCEY, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF INDIGO GOLF. SANFORD FLORIDA.

AND EXCUSE ME. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING. TAMMY, THANK YOU FOR GOING OVER THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROPOSAL.

I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT SOME SO WE CAN GET SOME STATEMENTS THAT WERE NOT QUITE ACCURATE.

>> BEFORE WE START, WOULD YOU IDENTIFY THE CITY COMMISSIONERS YOU MET WITH.

I HAVE MET WITH ALL OF THE CITY COMMISSIONERS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER STURGIS.

>> I WANT TO REITERATE ONE POINT THAT DETERMINES THE CONDITIONS OF THE PROPOSAL OTHER THAN THE ONES I WILL TALK ABOUT. THESE WERE KEPT IN THE AGREEMENT.

THESE WERE VETTED TEN YEARS AGO BY OUR FIRM AND THE CITY, I SAW NO REASON TO CHANGE ANY OF THAT WE WILL CALL IT BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE. THE ITEMS THAT WERE CHANGE, WILL WE WILL GO THROUGH THOSE AGAIN. AS TAMMY MENTIONED, THE MANAGEMENT FEE, IS BEING REDUCED. WE ARE REDUCING THAT THE $2,700,000 FROM A FROM WHAT WOULD BE OVER $80,000 PER YEAR. AND IN TOTAL ABOUT $12,000 ANNUAL.

THIS REPRESENTS THE LOWEST OF ANY NATIONAL FIRM WHEN IT COMES TO THIS.

WE DO, WE WILL ASK FOR AN INCREASE WHICH IS IN THE CURRENT AGREEMENT.

3%, A MAXIMUM OF 3% ANNUALLY. THAT IS BASICALLY ON CPI. THE CPI INDEX WHICH IS RUNNING AT ROUGHLY 1-2% PER YEAR. IT IS A VERY MINIMUM INCREASE. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR A MAJOR INCREASE IN PAY. WE WILL BE LUCKY TO GET TO WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW BY THE END OF THE FIRST TERM OF THE CONTRACT. THE PERFORMANCE INCENTIVE THAT WE HAVE CHANGED IN THE AGREEMENT IS SIMPLY, NOW IN THE CITY'S FAVOR WHERE IT SHOULD BE, WE SHOULD NOT COLLECT ANY INCENTIVES ON THE PROPERTY UNLESS THE GOLF COURSE IS MAKING MONEY. I WILL NOT GET INTO THE DEFINITION THAT COULD TAKE FOREVER. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE BOTTOM LINE.

WE WILL NOT COLLECT ANY INCENTIVES, UNLESS THE GOLF COURSE IS MAKING MONEY.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, IT IS OUR COMMITMENT BACK TO THE FACILITY THAT ANY INCENTIVE WE COLLECT, 25% OF THAT WE WILL RETURN TO THE FACILITY IN THE FORM OF CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

THAT WILL ALSO HELP THE GOLF COURSE. THE TERM, WHICH WE ALL GET CONFUSED ON, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS, THE FIVE-YEAR TERM, YOU THINK IT IS A 815 YEAR

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SINCE THOSE ARE BUILT INTO THE CONTRACT SHOULD YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH BECAUSE IT IS EASY TO DO. IF THEY ARE NOT THERE, YOU WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE THERE. THE FIVE-YEAR TERM, IS ONLY IN NAME ONLY. IT IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE LANGUAGE.

SO TO BE CLEAR ON THE TERMINATION LANGUAGE. IF YOU DO, IF WE DO NOT PERFORM FINANCIALLY, YOU CAN TERMINATE US AT THE END OF THE END OF FISCAL 2022.

THE MATH ON THAT IS NOT 30 MONTHS. IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS.

YOU CAN TERMINATE US IF WE DO NOT LIVE UP TO OUR END OF THE BARGAIN WHEN IT COMES TO THE GOLF COURSE BASED ON OUR SCORECARD THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU WHICH YOU ALL HAVE.

IT WILL BE OUR STANDARDS FOR THE GOLF COURSE, IF WE DO NOT PASS IF WE DON'T PASS YOU CAN TERMINATE US FOR THAT. IF YOU WANT TO GET RID OF US BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE US ANYMORE, YOU CAN DO THAT. THAT IS THE ONLY FORM OF TERMINATION THAT CARRIES A CANCELLATION FEE AND I THINK THAT IS FAIR WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE REASON WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO GET RID OF US. THAT WOULD BEGIN IN JULY 2022. THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

SO, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE IS TO GIVE YOU WHAT WE BELIEVE THE CITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR. YOU WANT MORE CONTROL OVER THIS ASSET.

YOU WANT WHAT YOU WANT, AS FAR AS CONDITIONS TO THE GOLF COURSE WHICH HAVE NEVER BEEN A MATTER OF RECORD. WE ARE GIVING YOU THAT IN THE FORM OF THE CARDS WE USE IN SEVERAL CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR THIS VERY REASON. YOU HAVE A WAY TO JUDGE US AND YOU WOULD KNOW WHETHER IT IS US THAT IS THE PROBLEM WHETHER IT IS FUNDING OR SOMETHING ELSE.

RIGHT NOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT ANSWER. THERE IS NO STANDARD TO JUDGE THIS ON. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. IT GIVES YOU THAT CONTROL.

IT GIVES YOU CONTROL OVER THE FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE OF THE FACILITY.

IF WE DO NOT PERFORM, YOU CAN GET RID OF THIS. YOU CAN GET RID OF IT WILL BE FOR FIVE YEARS. A LOT OF OTHER COMPANIES WILL NOT GIVE YOU THAT OPTION.

WE GUARANTEE WHAT WE ARE DOING BASICALLY AND OF COURSE FOR WHATEVER REASON IF YOU DON'T LIKE US, YOU CAN GET RID OF US FOR THAT REASON AS WELL. IT GIVES YOU WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR WHEN IT COMES TO HOW THAT GOLF COURSE WILL BE TREATED GOING FORWARD AND THE RESULTS YOU DESIRE. JUST TO GO OVER THE SCORECARD THE SCORECARD CONTAINS MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF DETAILS WITH WHAT YOU WANT OR WHAT WOULD BE TYPICAL AT ANY GOLF COURSE, ESPECIALLY A MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE, THE CONDITION OF THE GREENS, HOW OFTEN YOU MEMO HOW DO YOU LOOK AT THE TURF, EVERYTHING. IT IS ALL IN THE STANDARDS. WE USUALLY HAVE A THIRD PARTY THAT COMES INTO JUDGE, WE GO ALONG WITH THEM AROUND THE GOLF COURSE.

THEY SCORE US AND IF WE FAIL, AND WE FAILED TO QUARTERS IN A ROW, THEN YOU CAN TERMINATE US.

IT IS THAT SIMPLE. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU ARE GAINING THE THINGS YOU HAVE WANTED FOR A LONG TIME. WE, HAVE ESSENTIALLY REDUCED OUR FEES IN THE PROCESS AND WE ARE WILLING TO BE A CONTRIBUTOR ONCE THIS FACILITY GOES INTO THE

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WE HAD TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF CAPITAL THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE THINGS LIKE THE GREENS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, TREE WORK AND SOLID WORK AND TURF QUALITY, ALL OF THE THINGS WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PUT MONEY INTO. WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING MONEY INTO THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS, AND GOLF CARTS AND MAINTENANCE ACCORDING IT WAS ALL RUNDOWN WHEN WE WALKED IN. I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO DAN SO HE CAN GO OVER THIS TEN YEAR PLAN WHICH BASICALLY SHOWS, THAT WE GET THIS FACILITY AND MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT FUNDING FROM THE CITY. BEFORE I GET INTO THE FINANCIAL NUMBERS I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THE COMMENTS REGARDING THE GOLF COURSE CONDITIONS I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE IS AND A PLANT THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE ALL YEAR, DUE TO THE RENOVATION AND THE TIMING OF THAT AND BEING ABLE TO PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE ARE AND THE PLANT THIS WINTER WAS NOT OVERSEE THE GOLF COURSE SO WE COULD GET A REST AND WHEN THE SPRING COMES IT WOULD TRANSITION AND IMPROVE THE TURF QUALITY BECAUSE IT IS NOT READY TO OPEN AND IT HAS PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE IDEAL CONDITIONS.

BUT THE NORTH COURSE WILL BE OPEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE. IT IS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE.

WHEN THAT DOES OPEN IT WILL HAVE A ROTATION THAT IS IN GOOD CONDITION.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TEN YEAR PROJECTION AND I WILL START WITH THE CAPITAL PLAN.

THIS IS BASED OFF OF THE INVESTMENTS IN THE FACILITY. WE LOOKED AT A TEN YEAR PLAN.

THIS DOES VARY SOME FROM THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL PLAN WITH THE CITY, NOT NECESSARILY THE ITEMS ON IT PLUG THE CALL ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THERE WAS ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ITEMS. THERE IS ALSO A LOT THAT IS TARGETED TOWARDS FINISHING THE BUILDING THE WAY IT NEEDED TO GENERATE REVENUE. THEN WORK ON THE RESTAURANT.

ALL OF THESE THINGS WOULD LEAD TO THE ABILITY TO GET ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

WITH THOSE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS WE WOULD ANTICIPATE INCREASE. THIS SHOWS TEN YEARS AND WE ARE FORECASTING TO DO JUST UNDER 42 ROUNDS. YOU CAN SEE WE WILL SEE IF THEY HAVE ROUNDS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THE AVERAGE ROUNDS AND THAT IS THE REVENUE WE WOULD COLLECT PER

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NOT STATING THIS WILL BE DRIVEN BY A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. THE TOTAL APR, YOU CAN SEE IT ACCOUNTS FOR MORE COMING ONLINE IT WOULD BE THE FIRST FULL BUDGET YEAR AS WELL AS FOOD AND BEVERAGE. THAT LEADS TO INCREASE YEAR-OVER-YEAR WHICH IS BASED OFF OF THE AVERAGE RATE AROUND. THE EXPENSE MODEL AND THE MAINTENANCE IN YEAR ONE, THAT WOULD CONTEMPLATE AN ADDITIONAL $40,000 IN EXPENSES AND THIS WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO THE GOLF COURSE WE ALSO PROPOSE, ADDING IN THE GOLF CARTS AS AN LEASE THIS IS CURRENTLY A CAPITAL EXPENSE THAT IT'S ABOUT EVERY FOUR YEARS. WE WOULD ALSO PROPOSE DOING IT WITH THE OTHERS AND PAYING FOR THAT THROUGH THE OPERATING BUDGET.

THAT ALLOWS US TO PAY FOR THOSE TWO KEY ASSETS THROUGH THE FACILITY THROUGH THE OPERATING BUDGET AND MORE DOLLARS FOR THE GOLF COURSE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN THIS WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF GOLF COURSE NEEDS TO BE FUNDED WHICH INCLUDES THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE SPIRIT PROPERTY OR LOSS FROM OPERATIONS YOU CAN THREE AND 2021 IT IS DRIVEN BY $114,000 AND THE FINAL PAYMENT, THIS WOULD GO AWAY AT THE END OF 2021.

THE ANNUAL SUBSIDY DECREASES IN MOST YEARS. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WILL BE ALLOCATED. OVERALL, OVER THE TEN YEAR. A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN WHAT THE CITY WILL NEED TO FUND THE GOLF COURSE AND ELEVATE THE EXPERIENCE AND THE CONDITIONS.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF RESPONSE.

>> YOU STATED,. >> DO YOU MEAN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE GENERAL FUND? SO, THE NET OPERATING INCOME WE WOULD ANTICIPATE TO BE AT SLIGHT LOSS AND SERGEANT 2022 TO BE

POSITIVE. >> THE CITY HAS PUT THE GENERAL FUND IN THIS SPIRIT ON TOP OF A CASH TRANSFER, WOULD THAT BE ELIMINATED. THE COMPLETION OF THE RENOVATION OF THE NORTH GREENS AS WELL AS THE TOP PROJECT ARE REVENUE STREAMS THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE PERFORMANCE OF THE FACILITIES THOSE ARE FACTORED INTO THE BUDGET AND WOULD ELIMINATE THE CITY FUNDING THAT YOU REFERENCE. I HAVE LOOKED AT THE BUDGET AND THERE'S $225,000 IN THERE.

YOU ARE SAYING THAT WILL STAY OR NOT STAY. >> IT WON'T STAY.

>> THERE WILL BE NO MORE CASH TRANSFERS? >> WITH YEAR WILL YOU BREAKEVEN?

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WHAT CAPITAL IS APPROVED. >> SO WHAT MAKES UP THE DIFFERENCE.

>> WHAT YOU MEAN? SO, SOMEONE HAS TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.

SO THE CITY WILL PAY THAT. >> THAT IS CORRECT. THIS FROM THE TEN YEAR PLAN, IS $300,000 THAT THE CITY WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE TO THE GOLF COURSE OVER TIME.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE ABOUT 50 E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE, WHO THOUGHT THE COURSE WAS TERRIBLE AND THOSE WHO THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD. I DID NOTICE WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE PLAYING IN THE COURTS. OVER THE WEEKEND THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE PULLING THE COURSE. IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF WHERE THE MINUTES WILL COURSE IS. I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS APPROVED BY A SPIRIT FOR FIVE YEARS, I HAVE NOT HEARD MUCH ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE AT ALL EXCEPT WE SUBSIDIZE IT. I SAID PUBLICLY BEFORE THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SUBSIDIZING IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT IS A RECREATIONAL FACILITY.

BUT I WOULD RATHER HAVE A BALLPARK I DON'T PLAY THE GAME. THE RESPONSIBILITY WAS ON US.

IN FIVE YEARS, I DON'T REMEMBER ANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS OF SUBSIDIES THAT IS WHY I SAY WE PROCEED PROCEED. THIS WILL NOT GO OUT OF HAND IF WE DON'T GIVE THE CAPITAL BUDGET. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY. THESE GUYS WERE LEFT TOTALLY OUT. THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE IN MY MIND. LET'S GET THE SCORECARD.

I GUESS I WILL FINISH. SO A TEN YEAR CONTRACT. IF COMMISSIONERS WILL RECALL, WE CAME TO A TEN YEAR CONTRACT AND THIS CALL FOUR SOUTH FORAGER THOUSAND YARDS IT IS A ONE POINT FOR MILLION-DOLLAR BUSINESS. AFTER TEN YEARS OF HOLDING A CONTRACT, I THINK IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY, IN ORDER TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION TO KNOW MY ALTERNATIVES, AND THE WAY TO GO WAKE, TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THIS FACILITY IS TO GO OUT FOR OTHER GOLF MANAGEMENT COMPANIES. THE LAST PARAGRAPH SAYS, IF THE CITY SUPPORTS SELF-MANAGEMENT WE DON'T KNOW THE ALTERNATIVES OUT THERE. THEY HAVE HAD THE CONTRACT FOR TEN YEARS. IN MY ESTIMATION WE DISCUSSED THIS ONE WEEK AGO THERE HAS BEEN

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THAT IS ON US. W NEED TO A BETTER JOB WE NEED TO PUT THIS OUT TO RFP, THE CITY MANAGER SAID THERE IS A PLAN TO RUN THE GOLF COURSE WHILE WE DO THAT WE ARE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ALTERNATIVES OF DAN MAKE THE BEST DECISION. SO I WILL VOTE NO ON THIS.

I WANT TO HEAR WHAT DEAN SAYS BECAUSE HE PLAYS THE GOLF COURSE >> I SEE HOW IT GOES.

I NOTICED THAT I DO LIKE THE GOLF COURSE. I LIKE PLANING NOW.

TO BE HONEST, I WILL PLAY AT THE MILD WEATHER LOOKS LIKE WORK I GO UP THERE AND PLAY.

IT IS LOOKING LIKE OUR THREE VOTES THAT WILL BE NO TO MY LEFT.

I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK IS AGO HAS PUT IN. I DON'T THINK AN RFP COULD HURT MAYBE INDIGO WINS MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE WINS. RFP COULD BE THE ANSWER THAT IS WHAT I WILL SUPPORT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS HAVING OTHER COMMENTS CAN YOU CALL THE VOTE.

TURN YOUR LINE ON PLEASE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOTION IS FAIR. >> TO NEGOTIATE THE AGREEMENT ( INDISCERNIBLE ) I WILL NOTE THE WORD NEGOTIATE SERVES TO RENEW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO

RENEW OR NEGOTIATE. >> I THINK THE NEGOTIATIONS OVER THIS WAS TO RENEW.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION. >> SO WE HAVE A CORRECTION AND A SECOND PERIOD WE ALL UNDERSTAND

WHAT THE MOTION IS, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> OKAY GIVEN THAT WE HAVE NOT REMOVED OR RENEWED THE INDIGO CONTRACT, I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO HEAR FROM THE CITY MANAGER ON OUR PLAN FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THE GOLF COURSE. WHEN DO THEIR CONTRACTS EXPIRE

EXACTLY. >> I WILL WORK WITH THEM TO DETERMINE HOW WE PROCEED, THEN BEGIN THE EFFORTS TO PREPARE AN RP. I WILL REACH OUT TO INDIGO GOLF TO FIND OUT THE STATUS OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WHETHER TECHNICALLY ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES ARE AND WILL REMAIN AT INDIGO GOLF, UNTIL, WE ARE ADVISED OTHERWISE SPIRIT AND WE WILL PROCEED TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT. WE DO NEED TO PURSUE THE GENERAL MANAGER.

I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THEIR LONG-TERM GOAL. THEY BROUGHT IN THE GENERAL MANAGER FOR THE TIME BEING. I THINK THIS CHANGES HOW THAT GOES FORWARD.

WE WILL THEN DETERMINE HOW TO STOP THE FACILITY HOW TO OPERATE THE FACILITY, HOW TO BEST SERVICE THE TOP TRACER. THEN WE WILL PREPARE THE RFP. I EXPECT THAT, I WILL ENGAGE ALL

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I WILL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY SO YOU CAN REVIEW THE DATA.

THEN BY THE TIME WE DO THAT, I WOULD EXPECT, A NEW VENDOR OR THE CURRENT VENDOR, WILL BE AWARDED TO THE RFP. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OCTOBER 1, THE START OF THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. BY THE TIME WE CRAFT OUR FEE, WE WILL GO OUT AND WE WILL CONDUCT A REVIEW AND ANALYSIS OF THE PROPOSAL AND GIVE THAT, THE AWARDEE APPROPRIATE TIME WHERE WE ARE ALREADY CLOSE. OCTOBER 1 START DATE, FOLLOWING COMPLETION IS A REALISTIC DATE.

>> DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR AN RFP ON THE POSSIBLE OUTSIDE MANAGEMENT?

>> I MOVE FOR THIS. SECOND PERIOD. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY THE COMMISSIONER AND A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR KRIEGER. THE DISCUSSION OF --

>> I WANT TO MAKE A POINT. RFP IS CRITICAL AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BUT I WILL DEFER TO

THE CITY MANAGER. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I SEE NONE.

CITY CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE COUNT THE VOTE'S. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WHEN WE MAKE THESE MOTIONS THAT THEY BECOME RESOLUTIONS WE WILL THANK YOU MA'AM WE ARE PAST 7:30 P.M.

WHICH YOU LIKE BREAK. LET'S JUST SAY 7:50 P.M. IT IS

[6.2 HILLTOP SECURITIES ASSET MANAGEMENT, LLC. - CONTRACT AGREEMENT]

>> WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. AGENDA ITEM 6.2, HILLTOP SECURITIES ASSET MANAGEMENT.

SHE WAS WONDERING WHAT I JUST SENT. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR A NEW FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES THEY HAVE PROVIDED FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR A UTILITY SYSTEM. SO WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR AN

ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PROJECT. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL. I SECOND.

DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION. >> WE WILL CALL THE ROLL. >> ITEM 6.3, AMENDED ORDER FOR

[6.3 AMENDED AND EXTENDED - EMERGENCY ORDER – COVID-19 - MANDATORY MASKS]

THE CITY MANAGER AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO EXTEND THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY EVERY SEVEN DAYS FOR THE CITY MANAGER, HE DOES THAT IN HIS FRIDAY REPORT. EVERY FRIDAY HE WILL HAVE A SPOT THAT SAYS THE DATE TO WHICH THE ORDER IS EXTENDED. BUT THIS IS FOR YOU REGARDING

THE MASK. >> RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. >> I MOVED TO AMEND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD COMMISSIONER. >> I WILL MAKE THE SAME.

IT HAS SAID RECOMMENDED AS OPPOSED TO REQUIREMENT. >> THERE WILL BE A POINT OF

ORDER TO ON-CALL THE VOTE. >> >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THE AMENDED MOTION. WE DO HAVE A 2ND AND NOW CAN WE HAVE IT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

[01:45:05]

MOTION BEFORE DISCUSSION. >> I JUST HAVE TO LOG BACK INTO THE COMPUTER.

I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I BELIEVE -- WE ARE UP TO 94 DEATHS AND THAT IS OVER ONE DEATH PER 1,000. THE CDC HAS REQUIRED MANDATORY MASK WHEN THEY PLAN FOR TRAVEL.

I DON'T THINK WE ARE OUT OF THE WOODS GUYS. >> I THINK, FOR ECONOMIC LIABILITY, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GET THIS VIRUS UNDER CONTROL THE ECONOMY WILL DECLINE.

WE WILL HAVE PROBLEMS. FOR PUBLIC HEALTH REASONS, THERE ARE THREE THINGS YOU NEED TO DO.

SOCIAL DISTANCE, WEAR A MASK AND GET VACCINATED. UNTIL WE GET ENOUGH PEOPLE VACCINATED. THERE IS PUSHBACK ON THAT, WEARING A MASK IS ESSENTIAL TO CONTROLLING THIS. IT IS VERY HELPFUL FOR THE LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT I SUPPORT THEY CAN SAVE THE CITY, NOT THAT THEY RECOMMEND, THE CITY REQUIRES YOU TO WEAR A MASK.

I UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO ENFORCEMENT. BUT IT IS HELPFUL FOR CITY RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, THAT THEY CAN SAY WHEN SOMEONE COMES INTO THEIR FACILITY, PLEASE WEAR A MASK, BECAUSE THE CITY REQUIRES YOU TO DO THAT. IT IS HELPFUL FOR THEM AND IT HELPS WITH OUR ECONOMY. THAT IS WHY I PROPOSE THE AMENDMENT THAT YOU DO THIS.

>> SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS TO VICE MAYOR KREGER POINT. SIXTEEN DEATHS.

THAT IS THE MOST WE HAVE HAD IN A TWO WEEK SPAN SINCE I STARTED DOING THIS.

SO WHILE THE DAILY CASES ARE DOWN, IT IS WHAT IS ON THE HORIZON.

WHAT IS ON THE HORIZON FROM ALL OF THE EXPERTS IS A SECOND WAVE, 6-8 WEEKS, DRIVEN BY THE VARIANCE OF THE VIRUS. SO THE GREAT BRITAIN VARIANT IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN VARIANT WHICH ARE MORE SPREADABLE AND IN THE CASE OF SOUTH AFRICA, MORE FATAL.

MORE SERIOUS. THIS IS FAR FROM BEING OVER. >> AT MR. MAYOR IF I MAY, THERE ARE SOME POINTS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. FIRST OF ALL, THIS ORDER GIVES THE CITY MANAGER THE TOOLS THAT HE NEEDS SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO MANDATE THE CITY STATE WHERE MY SPIRIT GIVES THEM THE COVER THAT HELPS. WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE HAD ONE DEPARTMENT COMPLETELY CLOSED BECAUSE THERE WAS AN OUTBREAK. SO FAR OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN SPARED. THAT IS WHAT HE WANTED ME TOO MENTION.

IT DOES REQUIRE MANDATING FOR CITY EMPLOYEES AND PEOPLE WHO VISIT THE PUBLIC FACILITIES.

THE OTHER THING IS AND I DON'T HAVE THE QUOTATION I CAN SEND IT TO YOU.

I HAVE BEEN INFORMED, I THINK LATE LAST WEEK, AFTER TRIAL COURT LEVEL, THERE HAS BEEN A FEW MASK MANDATES, EVEN THOUGH THE GOVERNOR SAYS THEY ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE THEY HAVE BEEN UPHELD BY COURTS AS NOT BEING UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND BEING SOMETHING THAT PROTECTS THE PUBLIC HEALTH. THE COURTS ARE IN SOME CASES DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY TALK ABOUT THE ENFORCEABILITY. I CAN SEND THAT TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SEE IT.

THEY ARE NOT OPINIONS BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ALL OF THE OPINION SPIRIT WE HAVE NOT DEALT WITH IT HERE BUT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND THEY WILL GO TO THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT AT SOME POINT BUT AT THE

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I SEE NINE. DO WE HAVE TO VOLUNTEER THE FIRST VOTE, THE FIRST WOULD BE ON THE AMENDED FUNCTION. IF THAT PASSES THAT IS YOUR MOTION AND YOUR ACTION.

IF IT DOES NOT PASS, THEN YOU BUILD ON THE MAIN MOTION. >> THANK YOU.

CITY CLERK, WOULD YOU READ THE AMENDED PART OF IT? >> YES THEY MADE A MOTION, TO

CONSIDER CHANGING THE WORD REQUIRES TO RECOMMEND SPIRIT. >> WHICH YOU CALLED THE VOTE ON

THAT AMENDMENT FOR ME PLEASE? >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> NO.

>> CALLING THE ROLL. >> ANNOUNCED TO THE EMERGENCY ORDER.

WOULD YOU CALL THAT? >> CALLING THE ROLE. >> FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT.

[6.4 FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT - BUCCANEER REGION SCCA]

>> FOR THIS ITEM AND FOR THE NEXT ONE, THESE HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THEY ARE STRAIGHTFORWARD AND PASS USAGES TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE ABANDONED RUNWAY.

THE BUCCANEER REGION SPORTS CAR CLUB AS WELL AS DRIVING DYNAMICS.

I BELIEVE THE DATES ARE LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

I SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS?

>> DID THEY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF EVENTS OR IS IT THE SAME? >> SO, YOU WILL NOTE THE DRIVING DYNAMICS IS ONE EVENT. AND THEY LIKE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER SPIRIT WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS AS WE SEE AN ADDITIONAL LAYER WHERE LIMITING THE NUMBER TO PROTECT THE

PAVEMENT MOVING FORWARD. THAT IS ACTUALLY A REDUCTION. >> MY SECOND QUESTION, WHEN BECAUSE ONE OF THESE EVENTS IS IN THE EVENING. DO THEY HAVE ONE LASHER?

DID WE RECEIVE ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS CORRECTS. >> NO NOISE COMPLAINTS.

THE ONLY DAY WE HAD COMPLAINTS, WE KNOW THERE WAS LOW CLOUD COVER AND WE ALREADY KNOW THAT.

>> LET'S CALL THE ROLL. >> ITEM 6.5. THIS IS FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT

[6.5 FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT - DRIVING DYNAMICS, INC.]

DRIVING DYNAMICS. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSIONS? I SEE NONE, CITY CLERK WHICH YOU CALLED THE BOAT. CALL THE ROLL.

[6.6 SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT - CPH]

>> ITEM 6.6 HAS BEEN PULLED OFF OF THE AGENDA. >> CAN WE GET A MOTION TO

CONTINUE UNTIL FEBRUARY 16. >> MOVED TO CONTINUE UNTIL FEBRUARY 16.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD ANY DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[6.7 BUDGET AMENDMENT - BUILDING DEPARTMENT]

>> ITEM 6.7. >> THIS IS BASICALLY A CORRECTION TO THE BUDGET, THIS

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IS JUST A TRANSFER TO THE OPERATING SUPPLIES. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD ANY DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE.

CITY CLERK WILL YOU CALL THE VOTE. >> ITEM 7.1, CODE AMENDMENT,

[7.1 CODE AMENDMENT - STREET PERFORMERS]

STREET PERFORMERS. >> ORDINANCE 2021 -- ZERO ONE AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY UP FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA BY AMENDING CHAPTER 70, STREETS, SIDEWALKS AND OTHER PUBLIC PLACES, ARTICLE FOUR, STREET PERFORMERS BY AMENDING SECTION 172 TO ALLOW FOR PERMITS TO BE GRANTED ON A ROLLING BASIS REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR IN PERSONAL APPLICATION AND SECTIONS 170-178 TO EDIT FOR CLARITY WITHOUT CHANGING THEIR MEANING, PROVIDING FORCE OF HER ABILITY PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK?

I SEE NO ONE. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD ANY DISCUSSION. PEASE CALL THE VOTE.

CALL THE ROLL. >> THE MOTION PASSES 5-0. >> ITEM EIGHT.

[8.1 PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD]

>> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON REAPPOINTMENT OF TWO OF THEM. >> I HAVE A MOTION, IS THERE A

SECOND? >> I SECOND PERIOD. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD ANY DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE. CITY CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL

THE ROLL. >> ITEM -- THAT WENT PAST 5-0. THE NEXT ONE IS THE MARINA

[8.2 MARINA ADVISORY BOARD]

ADVISORY BOARD. THERE ARE THREE REAPPOINTMENTS. >> I RECOMMEND THE REAPPOINTMENT I WILL SECOND THAT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? I SEE NONE.

WILL YOU CALL THE VOTE. >> >> ITEM NINE, THE CITY MANAGER

[9. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

REPORTS. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR THE FORMATTING CHANGE. IT SERVED ITS PURPOSE WELL.

I LOOK TO CONTINUE THIS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION ON THE VISITING SECTION. I WILL I HAVE THIS SO PLEASE REVIEW WHAT I SENT YOU ON FRIDAY. IF THERE IS ANY LANGUAGE OR SUBTLE CHANGES THAT DOESN'T CAPTURE WITH YOU INTENDED BECAUSE THOSE WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU TO FORMALLY ADOPT THOSE GOALS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.

MANY WILL BE ATTENDING TOMORROW. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED I KNOW THE MAYOR HAS BEEN FEELING UNDER THE WEATHER. VICE MAYOR KREGER IS USUALLY AN ANNUAL PARTICIPANT BUT HE HAS A PREVIOUS COMMITMENT. IT WILL BE, IT WILL BE A LENGTHY AFFAIR.

IT IS TYPICALLY 2-3 HOURS. IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU HAVE THE ENTIRE DAY.

ESPECIALLY BEING THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY. STAFF WILL BE THERE REPRESENTING THE CITY. WE WILL HAVE THAT. ON A FINAL NOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE VICE MAYOR KREGER TO THE PODIUM BECAUSE WE RECENTLY HANDED OUT SERVICE AWARDS.

I AM HERE TO PRESENT AND I USUALLY HAVE A BIG STAFF. I AM HERE TO PRESENT HIM WITH HIS AWARD AND IN RETURN, I ENCOURAGED HIM TO STAY HERE FIVE YEARS.

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>> SHAKE EACH OTHER'S HANDS. >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> CITY ATTORNEY?

>> I HAVE NO REPORTS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TOO SERVE.

[11. CITY CLERK REPORTS]

>> THANK YOU. CITY CLERK COLLECTS I WANT TO SAY CONDOLENCES TO THE MAYOR AND HIS FAMILY AND TO THANK YOU OFFICIALS FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT TIME AND THE CHALLENGES THEY FACE. AND ALL OF US COMING TOGETHER TO SHOW HOW IMPORTANT AND IN SPECIAL -- TRACK HOW WAS TO THE COMMUNITY.

THAT IS IT. >> THANK YOU CITY CLERK. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER.

[12. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

>> LIFE IS GOOD. >> IS IT? >> FOR THE FIRST AND FOURTH TIME

TONIGHT I SECOND THE VICE MAYOR. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE SAME COMMENT.

I REMEMBER, MAYOR ALBERT VERY WELL. HE WAS A GREAT MAN.

YOU DID GREAT SERVICE FOR THE CITY. I JUST WANT TO ECHOED THAT COMMENT. IT IS MEN LIKE THAT, NO MATTER WHAT COLOR THEY ARE, WE ARE LOOKING FOR THEM IN THE CITY. I WOULD REACH OUT AND GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY, FOR A

LIFE WELL DONE. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT, IT CAME TO MY POTENTIAL OUR LOCAL MARINA MANAGER, HIS COMPANY WON TWO AWARDS. ONE OF THEM WAS THE GSD AWARD, GET STUFF DONE.

THE OTHER WAS SELECTED AS THE COMPANIES BE REMARKABLE AWARD WHICH THEY GIVE TO THE COMPANIES AND VPS. I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR DOING THAT.

>> THANK YOU SIR. I WILL INVITE, FIRST OF ALL, NEXT WEEK THERE IS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN READ IN VIRTUAL EVENT, THAT IS SPONSORED BY NASSAU COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH NONPROFITS. THE FEATURE FEATURES AN EVENT THAT TAKES PLACE ON FEBRUARY 11 FROM 6:00 P.M. UNTIL 8:00 P.M. THIS YEAR IT IS VIRTUAL. I DID NOT REALIZE THAT UNTIL I READ YOUR NOTE. THAT WILL BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THIS YEAR AS MOST EVENTS.

I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO PARTICIPATE. I KNOW MANY OF US HERE PARTICIPATED LAST YEAR. IT IS, IT IS A GREAT EVENT TO ATTEND.

THANK YOU FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR MAKING MY JOB SO EASY. THAT WENT VERY SMOOTHLY.

VERY COLLEGIAL. WE HAD GOOD IDEAS, I THINK WE CAME AWAY FROM THAT EXERCISE WITH VERY DIRECTED GOALS THAT WILL INCH PROVE THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, TOMORROW IS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY AND I WILL AND WITH, THE MAYOR SERVICE ON SATURDAY, WE ATTENDED THIS ALONG WITH OTHER COMMISSIONERS, A GROUP OF US, WE WERE OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL FOR THE PROCESSION. AS I SAID BEFORE, I NEVER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET MAYOR ALBERT BUT I SURE LEARNED WHAT A TERRIFIC INDIVIDUAL HE WAS JUST BEING MAYOR. WHAT WAS SO POWERFUL AND HIS SERVICE, WAS JOHN DREW WAS A STUDENT AND HE TALKED ABOUT BEING A STUDENT. HE HAD A BEST FRIEND, HIS FAMILY

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OF LIFE. >> COMMON SENSE. IF WE COULD ALL JUST FOLLOW IT, THOSE RULES, WE WOULD BE MUCH

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