Jan 19, 2021 Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> COME TO ORDER, PLEASE. EVERYONE WILL BE SEATED. I RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE FOR THE PROCLAMATION. WELCOME TO THE JANUARY 19TH, 2021, CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> HERE. >> COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. PERSONAL DEVICES, IF YOU WILL PUT THOSE ON SILENT UNLESS YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE MEDIA AND YOU'RE USING THEM TO TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE MEETING. DECORUM, WE ARE A COMPASSIONATE CITY WE TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT. SO IF WE COULD HAVE KIND DIALOG, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. ALL REMARKS, WHEN YOU SPEAK, AT THE LECTERN, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME AND THE CITY COMMISSIONERS. WE'RE IN COVID-19 PROTOCOLS, SO FACE MASKS FULLY OVER YOUR NOSE, PLEASE, AT ALL TIMES. AND SOCIAL DISTANCING. NOW, I RECOGNIZE WE HAVE, AS I SAID A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE FOR THE PROCLAMATION. WE'LL GET TO THAT IN ONE SECOND, BUT FIRST OF ALL, OUR INVOCATION BY REVEREND FELIX UNITED METHODIST CHUR UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL." >> PLEASE REMAIN STANDING. >> GOOD EVENING, FRIENDS. THE GREAT THING ABOUT HAVING FRIENDSHIP WITH GOD IS THAT THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY TO START ANEW. GOD ALWAYS OFFERS US A NEW DAY AND A NEW DAWN NO MATTER WHAT HAS GONE ON BEFORE.

WILL YOU PRAY WITH ME. LORD, WE REJOICE IN OUR PRESENCE HERE TODAY, MAY YOU RESTORE YOUR DIVINE SPIRIT OF THIS MEETING. MAY EVERYONE PARTAKE IN THE JOY AND LOVE THAT YOU OFFER. MAY WE SEE YOU IN EACH ONE OF US MAKE US REALIZE ALL OF OUR PLANS FOR THE YEAR AHEAD SHOULD BE BASED ON WHAT YOU WOULD WANT US TO DO. NOT ON OUR OWN MOTIVES, ENLIGHTEN OUR MINDS TO RECOGNIZE THAT NOTHING CAN BE DONE UNLESS YOU PERMIT IT. AND THAT OUR SUCCESS IS NOT OUR'S BUT YOURS.

MAY GOD BLESS US THIS YEAR SO WE CAN ALL TRIUMPH IN THE ENDEAVORS YOU SET FOR US. IN JESUS NAME

WE PRAY. AMEN. >> ALL RIGHT. ITEM 4, PROCLAMATION. WELCOME SIR.

[4.1 PROCLAMATION RETIREMENT OF MR. BENJAMIN FOREHAND]

THANK YOU. I SEE YOU BROUGHT A FEW PEOPLE. >> I DID.

>> WOULD YOU FOLKS LIKE TO BE UP HERE WHILE I READ THIS? >> OKAY. YEAH. COME FORWARD.

COME FORWARD. WHERE AS IT IS WITH GREAT HONOR THAT THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH HEREBY RECOGNIZES CAPTAIN BENJAMIN FOREHAND FOR HIS LONG AND DISTINGUISHED CAREER WITH THE FERNANDINA BEACH FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND WHERE AS, CAPTAIN ON DECEMBER 27TH, 1988.

THROUGHOUT HIS 32 YEAR TENURE HE SERVED CITY RESIDENTS AND VISITORS WITH PROFESSIONALISM, INTEGRITY AND COMPASSION. AND WHERE AS, MR. FOREHAND WAS REGULARLY. MEDICAL TECHNICIAN

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CAPTAIN FOREHAND'S WORK BEN FILTHED THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FAMILY. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA, THAT GENUINE AND SINCERE GRATITUDE IS EXPRESSED FOR THE PROFESSIONAL AND LOYAL EFFORTS OF CAPTAIN BENJAMIN FOR HIS SERVICE. A COPY OF THIS PROCLAMATION IS PRESENTED AS A PERMANENT MATTER OF RECORD IN THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COMMISSION AS FURTHER TESTIMONIAL OF OUR SINCERIST APPRECIATION. HAVE HERE UNTO SETMY HAND AND CAUSED THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH TO BE AFFIXED THIS 19TH DAY OF JANUARY, 2021.

CONGRATULATIONS. (APPLAUSE) >> IT WAS AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE MY HOMETOWN,

THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH. THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE) >> MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE IN THIS EXCITING MOMENT FOR CAPTAIN FOREHAND. 32 YEARS TO SERVE AS A FIRE-FIGHTER WITH THE HIDE ENDANGERS THAT THESE MEN ENCOUNTER EVERYDAY. IT'S ALSO A PLEASURE TO SEE ONE OFF AND A GREAT GUY THAT IN MY 5-YEAR TENURE HERE HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH AND HAS ALWAYS REPRESENTED THE CITY AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE MOST PROFESSIONAL WAY AND ALSO DEMONSTRATED PRIDE AND OWNERSHIP OF THIS DEPARTMENT. ON BEHALF OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AS TRADITION HAS IT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT CAPTAIN FOREHAND WITH HIS HELMET THAT HE WORE SO MANY YEARS AND THE BADGE THAT REPRESENTED HIM IN OUR DEPARTMENT, CAPTAIN, THANK YOU. AND ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT. AND

WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AROUND TOWN. >> I BELIEVE THERE'S ANOTHER

PRESENTATION. >> PRESIDENT OF THE LOCAL FRE-FIGHTERS UNION JAMES

TUCKER. >> WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND THE FAITHFULNESS OF THE CITY. FOR THE PRESENTATION OF YOUR ACTS. WE APPRECIATE YOU AND WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU WERE WITH US FOR AS LONG AS YOU WERE. I PERSONALLY APPRECIATE YOUR MENTORSHIP AS I

CAME UP. AND DEFINITELY GRATEFUL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> (APPLAUSE) THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN. >> YES, SIR.

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>> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FIRE-FIGHTERS. THANK YOU. >> ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S NO STANDING ALLOWED IN THE ROOM. SO IF YOU'RE WAITING TO SPEAK, UNLESS YOU'RE IN A CHAIR AND YOUR DISTANCED, THERE IS A WAITING AREA RIGHT OUTSIDE. THAT YOU CAN SIT. THANK YOU SO

[4.2 PASSERO ASSOCIATES AMELIA RIVER WATERFRONT RESILIENCY DESIGN]

MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. >> ITEM 4.2. SASS ZERO ASSOCIATES. PASSERO ASSOCIATES,

WATER RESILIENCY AND DESIGN. >> MR. MAYOR. I'M ANDREW HOLL. A LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESHER JUST GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE INITIAL GOALS OF RESILIENCY AND THE BENEFITS OF WHY THE CITY'S DOING IT. DESIGN RELATED TO THE OVERALL MASTER PLANNING PROCESS. SHOW YOU THE SPECIFIC SYSTEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DESIGNED TO BE PUT IN PLACE AND END WITH THE PROJECT'S SCHEDULE. THE BENEFITS OF RESILIENCY, JUST TWO QUICK ONES, THE FIRST, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A PICTURE OF FRONT STREET DOWNTOWN. THE FIRST GOAL IS LIMIT AND REDUCE FLOODING, FLOODING IMPACTS, DAMAGE COST

AND RECOVERY TIME FOR MAJOR STORM AND WATER DOWNTOWN. >> IMPROVING EROSION, THE AREA ALONG THE RIVER FRONT THAT WE'RE ESPECIALLY STABILIZING RIGHT NOW. IT SIMPLY ERODES, GOOD INTO THE RIVER AND YOU GOT TO DREDGE IT AND GOES IN THE MARINA, THAT'S GOING TO END.

THE RESILIENCY PLAN IN ACTION, LAST YEAR IT WAS A PLAN, NOW MOVING TOWARD ACTIONS. THE PREFERRED RESILIENCY PROTECTION SYSTEMS WILL BE A MIX OF SHORELINES, STABILIZE RIVER FRONT. IMPROVEMENTS OF THE RAILROAD INTERSECTIONS ON FRONT STREET AND THE STABILIZIZATION GOAL. TO REALLY PROTECT DOWNTOWN FROM A MAJOR STORM OR OTHER MAJOR STORM EVENTS. PORT OF FERANDINA, THERE WERE NINE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS. WE'RE NOW FOCUSSING ON SEGMENT TWO WHICH IS PARKING LOT C AND D. IF YOU COULD NOTICE THE SHAPE OF THE GREEN AND THE PINK LINE, THAT'S WHERE WE PROPOSE THE FLOOD PROTECTION LINE AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED WALL AND WALKWAY LAST YEAR. HERE'S THE SAME SHAPE, NOW THIS YEAR, ON THE ENGINEERING SITE PLAN FOR THE WALKWAY AND THE WALL. ENGINEERING DESIGN AND HOPEFULLY LEADING TO CONSTRUCTION.

>> CAN YOU JUST BACK UP. SO I COULD JUST COMPARE THE TWO FOR A SECOND.

>> THAT'S LAST YEAR, THAT'S THE PLAN. >> YES, SIR.

>> AND THERE'S THE SAME LINE FOR THE WALKWAY GOING INTO ENGINEERS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I ASKED CHRIS TO PUT TOGETHER A GRAPHIC TO REPRESENT WHAT YOU WOULD SEE AT THE END. LOOKING AT 3-DIMENSIONAL. STARTING ON THE LEFT, YOU SEE THE STABILIZIZATION, OYSTER BAGS IN THE RIVER. NEW PLANTINGS AS YOU WALK UP AND A STABILIZED MAT ON THE RIVER FRONT SO IT WON'T ERODE. YOU COME TO THE TOP, THERE'LL BE A VERY NICE WALKWAY, THERE'LL BE CONCRETE WITH A NON-WOOD PRODUCT ON TOP SO IT DOESN'T DECAY. YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SIT ON THAT WALL AND LOOK TOWARD THE RIVER OR SIT ON THE WALL AND LOOK TOWARDS FRONT

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WE WILL HAVE A FINAL CITY REVIEW MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ENGINEER IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH AND GET THEIR FINAL INPUT AS WELL AS REVIEWING THE BID AWARD AND THE BID AWARD OPTIONS. WE WANT THERE TO BE FLEXIBLE SERIES OF OPTIONS TO AWARD. PUT PIECES IN AND OUT AND MAKE THAT ALL WORK. CONSTRUCTION, WE EXPECT THAT TO BE AWARDED IN THE BEGINNING OF MAY OR JUNE. SO YOU'LL SEE SOMETHING UNDER CONSTRUCTION THIS SUMMER. QUESTIONS AND

GUIDANCE TO ME? >> MY CONCERN AS WE MOVE FORWARD IS THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO THE COMPLETE SHORELINE STABILIZATION, BY STARTING WITH WE'RE STARTING, WE'RE NOT STARTING AT THE MOST VULNERABLE SPOT, WHICH YOU ACTUALLY SHOWED ON THE FIRST PICTURE. SO FUNDING ITSELF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE THERE'S NO POINT IN STARTING IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING. AND THIS REALLY ISN'T YOU. IT'S, FOR THE CITY. YOUR LAST ESTIMATE WAS $20 MILLION. SO, I'M CONCERNED PARTICULARLY WITH YOU CAN'T SEE THIS, BUT THE 101 FRONT BUILDING AREA. WE HAVE TO HAVE, ONCE WE COMMIT TO THIS, WE HAVE TO HAVE WE COMMIT TO THE WHOLE PROJECT, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE LATER ABOUT CAP IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND WHERE IT IS AND WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM. AND I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF OPTIONS AND WE'LL GET TO THAT, AND I THINK WE'LL SEE MORE AT THE GOAL SETTING MEETING. BUT IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT COMMITTING TO PARKING LOT C AND D UNLESS WE COMMIT TO THE LOWER AREAS WHERE WE'RE VULNERABLE.

>> I'LL JUST NOTE AS LONG AS THE CITY MANAGER DOESN'T STICK ME IN THE BACK THAT I'M GOING TO COME TO I DON'T YOU ARE VISION SESSION NEXT WEEK AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS. I'LL BE THERE IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THAT DISCUSSION NEXT WEEK.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN THE DISCUSSION. >> BUT, NONE OF THAT MATTERS IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING. AND THAT'S WHAT, THIS IS ALL ABOUT MONEY. IT'S THE COMMITMENT TO

MOVE FORWARD IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY TO MOVE ON. >> UNDERSTOOD.

>> AND WE MADE THIS COMMITMENT LAST TIME WE DID THE SHORELINE STABILIZATION. WE DID COMMIT TO

THAT AND IT'S SEPARATE. SO, I DON'T NEED TO SAY MORE. >> UNDERSTOOD.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> YOU'RE GOING TO SUPPLY PLANS, SO WITH HE CAN LOOK AT

THIS? COMMISSIONER ROSS, COULD YOU PUT YOUR LIGHT ON, PLEASE. >> LIGHT PLEASE.

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>> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE GOING TO SUPPLY SCHEME MAT TICKS TO LOOK AT THIS

IN APPROPRIATION FOR THE VISION SESSION? >> WE CAN, YES.

>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANKS. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I

APPRECIATE IT. >> WITH US TONIGHT IS VICE MAYOR WELL. AND COMMISSIONER

[4.3 MARQUIS LATIMER +HALBECK, INC. AMELIA RIVER WATERFRONT PARK]

>> AND THERE THEY ARE, WELCOME, GENTLEMEN. >> MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR

LETTING US JOIN YOU. >> WELCOME. I TRUST YOU CAN ALL SEE THE PRESENTATION IN

>> WE CAN. >> EXCELLENT. SO, IF THE PLEASES THE BOARD. I'LL DIVE IN WITH OUR UPDATES. THE LAST TIME WE WERE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL WAS NOVEMBER. THANK YOU FOR THE HOSPITALITY OF LETTING US JOIN YOU REMOTELY AS WE CONTINUE TO HOPEFULLY MAKE REALLY GOOD PROGRESS WITH YOU ALL ON THE PARK. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW EXCITED OUR TEAM IS AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT AN IMPORTANT PROJECT THIS IS TO THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S CERTAINLY A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT TO ALL OF US. YOU'LL SEE, MR. LATIMER, WE'RE ALL VERY COMMITTED TO THIS.

WHERE I LEFT THE CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL LAST TIME, WAS ABOUT PUBLIC FEED BACHBACK. WE RECEIVED. THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT PARTICIPATED VIRTUALLY. THE TAKE AWAY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BACK IN NOVEMBER, IS THAT PHASE ONE OR THE SOUTH HAD THE MOST POSITIVE FEEDBACK. THE SECOND PIECE IS PHASE ONE THAT FELT PORTIONED, THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS, SPECIFICSLY WHAT ANDREW AND HIS TEAM OVER AT MAKE SURE THAT THE TWO OF VERY MUCH TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER AND MY THANKS TO ANDREW AND CHRIS AND THEIR WHOLE TEAM HAVE BEEN GREAT TO COLLABORATE ON. DIRECTLY COORDINATING WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THE OTHER TAKE AWAY, IS THAT IT REALLY CAME DOWN TO THE LOOK AND THE FEEL OF THE PARK AND WHAT I WOULD REFER TO AS ADDING A LITTLE MORE GRIT TO THE PLAN. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF FOLKS THAT REACTED A BIT TO MAYBE TAKING AWAY THE CONTEMPORARY LOOK, THE RADIO LAYOUT OF THE SUNSET PLAZA ON THE NORTH. HOW WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THE LAYOUT, THE WORKING WATER FRONT, THE MAKING SURE TO INCORPORATE ALL THE EXISTING PIECES OUT THERE. AND I HOPE YOU'LL SEE THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE STILL IN THE MASTER PLAN STATE, IT IS A HIGHLY, HIGHLY COORDINATED MASTER PLAN EFFORT THAT I HOPE WILL BE A VERY GOOD FOUNDATION AND LAUNCHING PAD FOR THE CONVERSATION NOT ONLY TONIGHT BUT ALSO NEXT WEEK. I'LL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. SO THIS IS SIMILAR DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION BEFORE. WHERE WE GO THROUGH AND FIRST TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE PARK. AS COMMISSIONER ROSS, IN PARTICULAR, I THINK HAS ALWAYS DONE A GOOD JOB OF PUTTING INTO WORDS, THIS IS THE MEAT WITHIN THE SANDWICH WITH THOSE TWO IMPORTANT PIECES OF BREAD BEING THE SHORE LINE, STABILIZATION, THE RESILIENCY PIECE AND ALSO THE ROAD. THE PARK SHOULD PLAY INTO AND SUPPORT THE RESILIENCY EFFORTS THAT THE CITY HAS. AND SO WE'RE CERTAINLY DESIGNING THIS TO HELP PROVIDE ADDITIONAL STABILITY AND SUPPORT FOR THE PARK -- EXCUSE ME, THE ROAD AS WELL AS THE SHORELINE ON THE

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I THINK TIES INTO THAT PIECE OF THE STORY. WE ALSO MADE MODIFICATIONS TO BOTH THE WALKWAYS, AS WELL AS TO THE VETERANS MONUMENT. SO WE ELIMINATED THE PATHWAY. WE ELIMINATED THE RAMPS. THERE'S STILL THE PATHWAY BECAUSE WE DROPPED IT BACK DOWN TO GROUND LEVEL, WHILE STILL, I THINK CREATING A SPACE AROUND THE VETERAN'S MONUMENT THAT CREATES MORE SIGNIFICANT AND APPROPRIATE SPACE TO HONOR OUR VETERANS. ON THE MAIN ACCESS COMING DOWN FROM CENTER STREET. WE INCORPORATED WALLS AND REDUCED THE NUMBER OF OPENINGS, SO THE FLOOD GATES.

WE REALLY TRIED TO MINIMIZE THAT TO THE GREATEST EXTENT THAT WE CAN. WE'RE STILL RELOCATING THE PARKING WALL. WITH THE GOAL TO HAVE AS CLOSE TO A PARKING NEUTRAL SCENARIO AS WE CAN.

WE'LL CERTAINLY BE LOOKING TO VET EVERY PARKING SPACE THAT WE CAN. ON THE SOUTHSIDE OF THE BOAT RAMP, WE HAVE CONTINUES SOME OF THOSE PATHWAYS THAT YOU SEE ON THE NORTH PART OF THE PARK TO THE SOUTH. WE ALSO HAVE COME IN HERE AND MADE SURE THAT WE MODIFIED THE PATHWAY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR COLLEAGUES OVER AT PASSERO,. HOW PARTICULARLY ON THE SOUTH END WITH THE COURTS, WE HAVE THAT REALLY NICELY SIT WAITED IN THERE. WE STILL HAVE COURTS IN THIS SCENARIO. WE STILL HAVE A BAND SHELL WITH THE SOUND TRAVELING TO THE NORTHWEST AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN WHICH IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED WITH A NUMBER OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT. WE ALSO HAVE THAT REALLY AMAZING SUNSET OBSERVATION DECK WITH THE SHRIMPING MONUMENT RELOCATED THERE AS WELL. WE'RE WORKING AROUND THE EXISTING ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT. WE'VE BUILT IN POTENTIAL RETAIL SPACES INTO THIS AREA THAT IS THERE FOR FUTURE USE BY THE CITY. THE BAND SHELL IS NOW LOOKING TO INCORPORATE RESTROOMS WITH IT.

AS WELL AS A SMALL BACK OF HOUSE. AND AGAIN, ALL OF THIS DIRECTLY COORDINATING WITH THE ENGINEERS ALONG THE WATER FRONT. BECAUSE CERTAINLY THEY'RE FURTHER ALONG IN THE

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REALLY EMBRACING THE WATER AND EXTENDING BEYOND THE RAILROAD TRACKS AS IT CURRENTLY STOPS.

YOU COULD SEE HOW WE HAVE INCORPORATED THE WALL THAT P AS SSERO. WITH SOME REALLY NICE OPPORTUNITIES TO SIT IN THE WATER WITH THAT DECKING. SO WE NOW REALLY ONLY HAVE TWO PLACES THAT ARE THE MAIN PORTION OF THE PARK WHERE YOU WOULD NEED TO PUT IN THE FLOOD GATES AND YOU WOULD HAVE ANOTHER COUPLE AROUND THE VETERAN'S MONUMENT. THE SOUTHERN PIECE, WHERE WE HAVE THE COURTS, 16, WE HEARD FROM QUITE A NUMBER OF PLAYERS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE ALSO HAVE THE SUNSET OVERLOOK NOW MISSING THAT SECOND FLOOR PIECE THAT WE HAD INITIALLY TALKED ABOUT. AND THIS WOULD STILL ACTUALLY LEAD YOU UP WWITH AN AA AS ONING ALONG THE RIVER. AND ONE TO SHARE WITH YOU, WHERE WE ENDED UP ON THE VETERAN'S MONUMENT FOR THE MASTER PLAN IS THAT WE ELIMINATED THE RAMPS AND USED THE SITE WALLS TO CREATE THE. I THINK THAT THE OTHER PIECE I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS WE WERE VERY MINDFUL OF KEEPING THOSE VIEWS OPEN WITH USING PALM TREES IN CERTAIN AREAS, BUT ALSO HAVING SOME POCKETS OF SHADE. BECAUSE THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS IS, YES WE WANT IT TO BE BEAUTIFUL AND OPEN, AND WE TONIGHT WANT IT TO INTERFERE WITH THE VIEW, BUT ALSO, IT COULD GET HOT OUT THERE SO WE WANTED TO HAVE A BALANCE OF THOSE TWO PIECES. AND EVEN ON THE SOUTH END WHERE WE'VE ADDED MORE TREES AND WORKING AROUND THE EXISTING TREES ALONG THE WATERFRONT HAVE BEEN VERY MINDFUL OF BALANCING THE VIEW OF ALL THIS THIS. HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THE WALKWAY RUNNING ALONG THE WATER. THERE'S THE WALL THAT'S AT NINE FEET THAT WILL BE PART OF THAT PORTION AND YOU COULD SEE IN THE DISTANCE THAT THE EXISTING PAVILLION AS WELL AS THE COURTS. AS YOU ALL MIGHT ALSO RECALL IN LOOKING AT PHASING, THE INITIAL THOUGHT IS TO FOCUS THE EFFORTS SOUTH OF THE BOAT RAMP SO IT COULD ENGAGE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT PORTION AND OF COURSE, RAILROAD CROSSINGS, WITH THAT PHASE TWO, WE WOULD SUGGEST IS THE ASH STREET AS WELL AS THE CENTER STREET, PHASE THREE BEING THE BALANCE OF THE FOUR AND PHASE FOUR, FRONT STREET ITSELF. HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW THAT WE WERE ALL LISTENING, AND WE ARE JUST AS EXCITED OR MORE EXCITED THAN WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE

HERE TO ANSWER ANYTHING WE CAN. >> COMMISSIONERS? >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK

IS ARE YOU GOING TO PROVIDE THE GRAPHICS SO WE CAN STUDY THEM. >> YES, SIR. WE'LL MAKE SURE

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TO DISTRIBUTE THIS TO THE CITY MANAGER. >> I SEE IN THE LAST SLIDE, WE HAVE COST ESTIMATES IN A SEPARATE DOCUMENT, DO YOU HAVE THOSE NOW OR IS THAT SOMETHING

WE COULD LOOK AT LATER ON. >> IF THE COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE COST ESTIMATE, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO BRING THAT UP. LET ME PUT THIS UP HERE. SO, THE COST ESTIMATES OVERALL, FOR THE PARK ITSELF, IS $6.35 MILLION. AND THEN, THE PHASING YOU COULD SEE I HAVE IT BROKEN OUT DOWN HERE, THE PHASE ONE I THINK YOU COULD REALLY DO IT AS TWO DIFFERENT STEPS.

PHASE 1-A BEING THE SCULPTING OF THE LANDSCAPE, THE SIDEWALKS, THE PATHWAY BRINGING YOU UP AND OVER, MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY GOING THE OVERLOOK QUITE YET. I'VE MOVED THE OVERLOOK AS WELL AS THE BAND SHELL AS KIND OF A SECOND PIECE OF PHASE-1 AND THAT WOULD BE $2.63 MILLION. AND PHASE TWO IS THE TWO INTERSECTIONS, $205,000. THE BALANCE OF THE PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BOAT RAMP WE'RE PROJECTING IS GOING TO BE ABOUT $1.64 MILLION. CERTAINLY OUR HOPE WITH THE MASTER PLAN IS THAT I DON'T THINK THAT OUR EXPECTATION WAS THAT YOU WOULD BE MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL OF IT AT THE SAME TIME OR EVEN ALL PHASE ONE AT THE SAME TIME, BUT CERTAINLY OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MASTER PLAN PROVIDES A ROAD MAP SO THAT AS FUNDING AND GRANTS AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE CITY CAN TAKE SOME ARE MORE CULTURAL. HOPEFULLY, WE HAVE DEVELOPED A GOOD ROAD MAP TO GUIDE THESE

DECISIONS. >> I HAVE ONE FURTHER. I DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORT TO BE PARKING NEUTRAL, IT IS A BIG ISSUE. ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES IS SPECIFICALLY PARKING FOR

PEOPLE WITH A BOAT TRAILER. AND THAT'S NOT APP PLUCKIBLE HERE. >> AGREED. AND SO, WHAT WE DID WAS, CURRENTLY WE'RE SHOWING IT AS 90. WE MIGHT GO BACK AND ANGLE IT FOR THE EASE OF PULLING A TRUCK OR TRAILER, AND BEING ABLE TO BACK OUT AND MOVE AROUND THE ROUND-ABOUT AT THE END OF THE THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S IN THERE.

>> ONE OF THE MAJOR CHANGES YOU'LL SEE FROM THE PREVIOUS DESIGN IS THE ANGLED PARKING.

NOW IT'S AT 90 DEGREES THROUGHOUT. IT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO PARK. IT IS OF COURSE IS LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO PULL OUT. THAT WAY, WE GARNER THE MOST PARKING PER

SQUARE FOOT. >> WE'RE THINKING IS GOING BACK TO ANGLED IS THE TRAILER

PARKING. >> COMMISSIONER? >> YES.

>> MY ONE QUESTION IS THIS IS JUST A WATER PARK IN SEGMENTS. JUST THE WATERFRONT PARKS AND SEGMENT. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SEA WALL, OR RESILIENCY WALL AT ALL?

>> YES, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> JEREMY WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE NEXT STEP? >> I THINK THAT THE NEXT STEP IS MAYBE TWO-FOLD, MR. MAYOR. I THINK THE FIRST PIECE IS HAD WE CAPTURED THE CONVERSATION THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 20 PLUS YEARS AND CERTAINLY WHAT WE HOPE THAT WE'VE DONE IS TO CONSOLIDATE THAT TO BRING A CREATIVE AND INCLUSIVE WAY OF INSTILLING THAT. THAT'S THE

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>> THANK YOU. AND WHAT TYPE OF TIMELINE ARE YOU LOOKING AT FOR A, HAVE WE CAPTURED THE CONCEPT,

90 DAYS? 30 DAYS? 60 DAYS? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? >> I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BRING IT TO SOME CLARITY WITHIN THE 30 DAYS. THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THAT THE MORE THAT WE CAN BE PARALLELING OUR EFFORTS WITH MR. HOLESKO AND THE PASSERO TEAM. IF WE COULD HELP GET FUNDING IN PLACE SO THAT WE COULD LET BIGGER CHUNKS OF THIS, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE THE SITUATION THAT YOU COULD USE THE SAME CONTRACTORS, ONLY PAY TO MOBILIZE ONCE AND MAYBE HAVE THEM START TO DO SOME OF THE ACTUAL PARK. SO I THINK THAT IF WE CAN KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PASSERO TEAM, THERE'S REAL VALUE THAT THE PROJECTS GET BETTER, AND THAT THERE'S COST

SAVINGS, BOTH IN TIME AND DOLLARS FOR THIS. >> MY FEELING ON THE TIMING

IS... >> YES, SIR. >> FIRST OF ALL, IT WOULD BE EARLY FEBRUARY BEFORE WE COULD START DISCUSSING THIS. WE JUST WE'RE PRESENTED THE PLANS, I THINK WE HAVE TO ABSORB THE CONCEPTS. AND THEN TO PIGGYBACK ON THE VICE MAYOR ON THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION. WHERE'S THE MONEY? WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM. I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO ENGAGE IN AND THAT'S GOING TO BE TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT 60 DAYS RATHER THAN 30 AT A MINUIMUM.

>> I THINK THAT'S STILL FAIR THEN WE STILL HAVE SHARED. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I CUT YOU YOU HAVE, I CERTAINLY DIDN'T MEAN TO. I THINK THERE'S SHARED SYNERGY. 60 DAYS IS PROBABLY THE FARTHEST OUT. 90 DAYS, I THINK THAT PASSERO WILL NEED TO MOVE FASTER THAN THAT TO WAIT FOR US. 60 DAYS, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY STILL MAKE WORK IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU AND THE

COMMISSION. >> UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT. VICE MAYOR.

>> I'M INTERESTED IN EXACTLY HOW IN OUR EXPERIENCE WITH HELPING WITH GRANTS, LAST WEEK THERE WAS A $20 MILLION PLANNING GRANT ISSUED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND WE DIDN'T EVEN SUBMIT. SO, I HEAR A LOT FROM CONSULTANTS AND ENGINEERS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A GRANT THAT YOU'VE WORKED WITH AND THAT YOU'VE ACQUIRED AND HOW YOU'VE

DONE THAT. IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE MONEY ISSUE. >> RIGHT. IF I COULD INDULGE YOU TO GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH. ONE DOWN IN OUR HOMETOWN HERE IN ST.

AUGUSTINE, WE WENT AFTER A NATIONAL PARK'S SERVICE GRANT THAT WAS THROUGH THE TRANSIT PARKS AND WE WORKED WITH THE THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, TO LOOK AT A PLANNING STUDY ABOUT

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>> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. >> DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

>> YES IT DID, THANK YOU. >> I SECOND THE VICE MAYOR'S SENTIMENTS AND WE'LL DISCUSS LATER IN THE MEETING. I'LL WAIT FOR THOSE QUESTIONS UNTIL THAT POINT IN TIME. THIS QUESTION GOES BACK TO PARKING. I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN PARKING. I SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE, WE HAVE THE SMALL ROUND-ABOUT. PROVIDES EDEGREES FROM THAT SECTION. BECAUSE CURRENTLY, DOWN FRONT STREET. TO THE RIGHT SAID, DOES IT STILL CONNECT TO THE REGULAR FRONT STREET ROAD?

>> GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. YES. FRONT STREET IS STILL CONTINUOUS ALONG HERE. THE IDEA IS NOT TO AT ALL BARRICADE FRONT STREET. IT DOES TRANSITION RIGHT HERE AT THE EDGE OF THE PAGE. IT TRANSITIONS BACK INTO THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT OF FRONT STREET. IT SHIFTS WEST OR TO THE TOP OF THE PLAN. AND BY SHIFT TING WEST. AND THIS IS THE ADVANTAGE OF YOU ALL OWN THE PARK AND THE RIGHT OF WAY. BY SHIFTING IT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET PARKING ON BOTH SIDES WITH STILL HAVING THE BARRIER OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS WHICH AREN'T GOING TO MOVE. SO YOU COULD SEE HOW IT KIND OF BOWS AROUND. CENTER STREET, WE'RE ABLE TO COMPLETELY REDO THAT INTERSECTION. THESE ARE STILL THE THAT WE HAVE BEEN COORDINATING ON THE RAILROAD CROSSINGS, THIS IS STILL MEETING ALL THE THINGS CURRENTLY BEING WORKED ON. AND WHERE IT

TRANSITIONS BACK INTO THE ALIGNMENT. >> THANK YOU.

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>> VICE, MAYOR. YOUR LIGHT'S STILL ON. ARE YOU DONE? >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> JEREMY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO FOLLOWING UP

WITH YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THANKS SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU ALL.

>> SO, COMMISSIONERS, SHOULD WE PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION?

>> YES. >> WHAT IS THE EARLIEST THAT WE COULD DO THAT?

>> WHICH AGENDA ARE YOU REFERRING TO? >> MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS

FEBRUARY 2ND. IS THAT POSSIBLE? >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY.

>> COMMISSIONER, ROSS, DID YOU PUT YOUR LIGHT OUT. >> I WOULD HOPE THAT WE DISCUSS

THIS AT THE ENVISIONING SESSION. THAT'S ALL. >> I BELIEVE WE WILL. YES.

>> SO TO BE CLEAR YOU WANT IT ON BOTH AGENDAS, THE GOAL SETTING WORKSHOP AND THE

FEBRUARY 2ND MEETING? >> YES, MA'AM. >> I BELIEVE IT WILL REQUIRE

THAT MUCH DISCUSSION. OKAY. >> WE'RE GOOD? >> GOODBYE. ARE YOU PUTTING IT

ON THE AGENDA AS A DISCUSSION ITEM. ? >> JUST THE DISCUSSION.

[4.4 BUDGET SUMMARY]

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR. >> ITEM 4.4, THE BUDGET SUMMARY, MISS, PAULINE

TESTAGROSE. >> DECEMBER IS THE THIRD MONTH AND REPRESENTS 25% OF OR ONE QUARTER OF THE BUDGETED FISCAL YEAR. 63.9% OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET. THIS IS PRIMARILY DUE TO THE PROPERTY TAX AND LOCAL TAX. 20.5%. HOWEVER, SOME DEPARTMENTS ARE OVER THIS MARK DUE TO THE PAYMENTS FOR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE. COMPLETED. AND ISSUED FOR STREETS, STRIPING, ATLANTIC REC FOR PIECES OF ROOF. YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THAT THERE'S A NEW SCHEDULE FOR THE CAPITAL EXPANSION FUND WHICH SHOWS THE FUND BALANCE BY REVENUE COURSE. THE GULF COURSE EXPENSES EXCEED REVENUES DUE TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. FOOD AND BEVERAGE ARE BELOW THE RATIOS. GRANT REVENUE. ALL UTILITY FUND REVENUES EXCEED EXPENSES AND THIS IS THE FIRST MONTH FOR THE

OASIS AS THE MARINA MANAGER. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS ON THE

FINANCIALS? >> COMMISSIONER, BEAM. >> HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO

THAT REVENUE? >> THE EXPENSES ARE STILL EXCEEDING THE REVENUES, BUT I

WANTED TO POINT OUT THE TRANSIENT SLIP RENTAL. >> ITEM 5, PUBLIC COMMENT

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> JACK 2809 OCEAN VIEW COURT. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE COMMON SENSE GROUP. WE HAVE ABOUT 80 FOLKS ON OUR EMAIL, OUR MEMBERSHIP AND WE HAVE 600 FACEBOOK FOLLOWERS. AND MANY MORE FOLKS THAT ARE WATCHING AND MONITORING OUR STUFF. SO, MR. MAYOR. I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. AND AS I ALWAYS SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY. SPEAKING REGARDING THE PERFORMANCE OF THE CITY MANAGER.

JUST TO BE CLEAR I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH DALE MARTIN. MANY PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH PERFORMANCE ON MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS. AND SO MY POINTS ARE AROUND JOB

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THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING UNDER THIS WATCH THAT ARE INVENTED EMERGENCIES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. SO, I'VE RECEIVED ON OVERWHELMING RESPONSE FROM OUR FOLLOWERS AND OTHER CITY RESIDENTS ABOUT SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. THAT'S WHY I STARTED THIS. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO DO, BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP TO YOU, MISS BACH HAS MENTIONED THAT MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE. I ASK YOU TO IF

YOU COULD BRING THAT FORWARD AND TAKE ACTION ON THIS. >> ANY COMMENT?

>> VICE MAYOR. >> AS YOU KNOW, I ALONG WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE READ THESE ISSUES AND I WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. NUMBER ONE: THERE MAYBE BAD DECISION AND THERE HAVE BEEN AT TIMES. THOSE ACTUALLY ARE ADDRESSED AND I WANT TO BOUNCE BACK TO THE NOVEMBER EVALUATIONS. WHICH ARE PUBLIC RECORD, WHERE MYSELF, I ADDRESSED DECISION MAKING ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND WE'RE KIND OF WORKING TOWARDS AN EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT. AS FAR AS ANY COMMISSIONER AT ANY TIME CAN EVALUATE THE CITY MANAGER. AND I REMEMBER BACK IN MAY OF 2018. I ACTUALLY DID A SPECIAL EVALUATION. HAD TO DO WITH PROJECT MANAGEMENT. SO THAT MY HAPPEN. I DON'T PRESUME TO TALK FOR OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS, BUT THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING. IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE, I THINK. WE'VE GOT A LOT GOING. LIKE I SAID, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE, WHEN I FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE, I WILL CALL AND DO A SPECIAL EVALUATION. BUT YOU DIDN'T

THINK THE TIME IS NOW? >> I DO NOT THINK THE TIME IS NOW.

>> HANG ON A SECOND. DO YOU YIELD THE FLOOR IN >> ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER

COMMENTS? >> OKAY. MY COMMENT IS AND YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT A WEEK AGO.

AND AS YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE TWO WRITTEN PERFORMANCES OF THE CITY MANAGER. DOES HE DO HIS JOB PERFECTLY? NO. NONE OF US DO. BUT DOES HE DO IT BETTER THAN THE ERRORS? AND IN MY EVALUATION, I BELIEVE HE DOES. HE HAS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT POSITIONS THAT I COULD THINK OF.

HE HAS FIVE BOSSES. SO MY EVALUATIONS ARE PUBLIC RECORD. AND I WILL DO THE FOLLOWING: I WILL ASK MY COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE ANY INTEREST IN HAVING THE CITY MANAGER'S PERFORMANCE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA, OR TO HEAR A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE MOTION? COMMISSIONERS?

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I CURRENTLY AGREE WITH THE VICE MAYOR THAT BEING MY THIRD MEETING HERE I FEEL LIKE IT MAY BE TOO SOON FOR ME TO JUMP ON BOARD WITH SUCH A MOTION. I'M

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WANT TO COME IN AND LOOK RETROACTIVELY FROM MY TERM. >> OKAY. DO I HEAR ANY?

COMMISSIONER STURGES. >> I HAVE TO AGREE, I DON'T FEEL THAT THE TIME IS RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RECOLLECTION OR ANY OF THE PAPERWORK INVOLVING HIS CURRENT OR PAST PERFORMANCE TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WOULD EVEN HONOR US TALKING ABOUT OTHER THAN A NORMAL INSPECTION OF HIS HOURS AND WHAT HE CURRENTLY DOES. SO, I DON'T HAVE REPORTS TO BASE MY DECISION

TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN START FROM SCRATCH. >> ALL RIGHT. SIR, I DON'T

HERE A CONSENSUS. >> CAN I MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT? >> BRIEFLY, SIR.

>> ONE, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF HISTORY BROUGHT FORWARD IN MY EMAILS. AND YOU COULD GET ALL THE DETAIL AROUND THAT. AND THE OTHER THING IS, HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DEBT DO WE HAVE TO GO INTO AS A CITY, BEFORE WE MAKE SOME CHANGES? THIS IS THE TIME. WE'VE GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FEMA DEBT. THERE'S CLEAR ACCOUNTABILITY FOR. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE AN ANSWER BASED ON A LETTER THAT I GOT ON JANUARY 13TH. I DON'T HAVE ANY RESPONSE. I'M NOT SURE WE COULD GET ANYMORE MONEY. WE COULD SIT AND WAIT ANOTHER FOUR YEARS BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY ON THE TABLE BEING LOST AND I THINK NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

>> THANK YOU. HE ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS. YOU WANT ME TO WAIT ON THAT?

>> THAT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK NOW, YOU'RE WELCOMED TO.

>> I'LL ASK IT NOW. IT'S NOT THAT HARD. >> AND STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> 106 NORTH 15TH. ON THE TRACER, ARE WE GOING TO PUT ANY, RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST OPEN IN THE FRONT. ARE WE PLANNING ON PUTTING ANYTHING TO SECURE THAT?

>> THAT'S, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THAT'S IN MY SLIDE PRESENTATION AND THE CITY MANAGER WILL GO THROUGH THE SECURITY MEASURES FOR THE FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT THAT'S

IN THERE. SO THE CITY MANAGER. >> MY QUESTION IS YES OR NO? ARE WE GOING TO SECURE IT?

>> YES. >> IT'S WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW. >> YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

>> MR. TOM CTOM CAMERARO. >> FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA, I'M COMING TO YOU IN REFERENCE TO THE BABE RUTH FIELD AND IT'S NECESSARY FENCING AND NETTING THAT HAS DETERIORATED AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE IN THE LAST 20 YEARS TO SAVE ANY KIND OF SAVE ANY KIND OF MONEY.

WE'VE HAD IT IN THE BUDGET FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS AND IT'S BEEN KICKED OUT. THE VICE-PRESIDENT -- VICE MAYOR WAS WITH US AND WE TOOK A TOUR OF THE PARK AND HE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO TAKE PICTURES OF THE DETERIORATION OF THE FIELD ESPECIALLY THE FENCING AND THE NETTING. WE'RE COMING TO YOU TO REQUEST SOME EMERGENCY MONEY SO THAT WE CAN SAFELY OPEN THE PARK FOR THIS COMING SEASON.

IT'S NOT A COMPLETE JOB, AND WE'LL WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER UNTIL IT COMES INTO THE BUDGET AGAIN FOR REVIEW, BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR ABOUT $25,000 TO GET THE BATTING CAGES AND SOME OF THE NETTING

AROUND BULLPENS AND ENTRANCE TO THE PARK. THANK YOU. >> SIR, WHEN DOES YOUR SEASON

START? >> WE'LL START ON FEBRUARY THE 13TH. OPENING DAY IS MARCH 21ST. I HAVE TALKED TO THE NETTING COMPANY, THEY CAN DO SOME OF THE STUFF FOR US IN EMERGENCY TO GET US STARTED. WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO NOT STARTING THIS SEASON LATER IF IT'S

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>> I DID GO OUT WITH TOM AND THE PRESIDENT AND I HAVE A SERIES OF PICTURES WHICH I WILL BRING FORWARD. THERE ARE DEFINITELY SIGNIFICANT SAFETY ISSUES. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT NEXT YEAR, I FORGOT THERE WAS $300,000 NEXT YEAR IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. IN

THE INTERIM, WE'LL DISCUSS WITH STAFF IF THEY PROCEED. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> REAL QUICK, TOM. I'M SORRY YOU LEFT THE PODIUM. WHAT IS NECESSARY, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE A SHORT TIME WHEN YOU MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP HERE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REFENCING THE AREA. IS THERE A SMALLER AMOUNT OF MONEY OR SOMETHING THAT COULD

BE DONE TO BRING THE AREAS DISCUSSED INTO COMPLIANCE. >> IF YOU SEE THE DETERIORATION OF THE PARK AND THE FIELD AND THE FENCING AND THE NETTING. IT IS DRY ROTTED, AND IT'S

COMPLETELY. >> SIR, CAN YOU COME BACK UP TO THE LECTERN FOR ME PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU, CITY CLERK. >> ARE START AGAIN. THANK YOU. >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE BATTING CAGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AROUND THE PARK, THEY ARE COMPLETELY DRY ROTTED, THE POSTS ARE LEANING WE WERE GOING TO SAVE MONEY ACTUALLY IS TAKE ALL THE STUFF OUT AND PUT METAL IN THERE FOR THE NETTING AND THE BATTING CAGES WILL BE A LOT CHEAPER THAN TO TRY TO JERRY RIG IT AGAIN.

SO, I'M TRYING TO TAKE STEPS THAT WE DON'T BACKTRACK, BUT DO THE NECESSARY THINGS THAT IMMEDIATELY TO IMPACT THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS GOING FORWARD FOR THE SEASON.

>> OKAY. >> THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO. >> COMMISSIONER, MEADE.

>> I PLAYED T-BALL THERE IN 2001. YOU ARE WEB HUNDRED% RIGHT. IT'S 2001. AND I CHECKED WITH THAT WAS ABOUT 22 YEARS THAT THAT NETTING HAS BEEN THERE. SO, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. AND THE FENCING IS PROBABLY OLDER THAN THAT AROUND THE PARK.

>> CITY MANAGER. IS THIS A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE? >> IT'S DEFINITELY A LIABILITY

AND A SAFETY ISSUE GOING FORWARD. >> I WAS ADDRESSING THE CITY

MANAGER. >> CITY MANAGER. HAVE WE DONE AN ASSESSMENT?

>> I HAVE NOT DONE ONE AND I DON'T THINK THE CITY MANAGER HAS.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> HE ALSO SUBMITTED CITY CLERK, HE SUBMITTED AN ESTIMATE INTO THE RECORD THAT I WILL

PROVIDE YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, MR. JIM HILL. IS MR. HILL.

>> STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> HI, MY NAME IS JIM HILL AND I LIVE AT 1717 BROOM STREET. I EMAILED EVERYBODY, I HAD TRIED TO PURCHASE OR BUILD A SHED IN MY BACKYARD TO REPLACE ONE I ALREADY HAD. AND I RAN INTO PROBLEMS IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS A GOOD BIT. ROBIN TOLD ME HEY, COME TELL YOU GUYS ABOUT IT AND I THOUGHT I WOULD. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT A COUPLE OF SOLUTIONS. ANYTHING UNDER MAYBE 150 FEET FOR A SHED WITH NO ELECTRICAL OR PLUMBING, SHOULD PROBABLY ONLY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A NOTEFICATION

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OVER $2,500. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> I DO HAVE ONE FOR OUR CITY MANAGER AND ATTORNEY IF WE CAN DIRECT IT TO YOU GUYS ABOUT JUST -- IS THIS THE TRUE PERMIT PROCESS IN IS THAT AN ACCURATE WHAT HE'S SAYING OR DO WE KNOW

ABOUT THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU. >> I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MR. HILL. AND WE'RE REVIEWING IT WITH MR. BECKMAN. WE ARE REVIEWING THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND

WE'LL HAVE RESOLUTION AND CLARIFICATION FOR THOSE. >> THE PEOPLE AT THE PERMIT

OFFICE WERE VERY NICE, I JUST THINK THEY WERE CONFUSED. >> THANK YOU.

>> PHILLIPE? >> THE DISCUSSION OF THE WATERFRONT PARK.

>> MY NAME IS PHILLIPE 228 NORTH 2ND. I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP, EXACTLY 12 YEARS AGO TODAY I CAME HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME TO THE ISLAND, BUT I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE PLACE AND WE MOVED A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER. WITH THE KIDS AT FERANDINA HIGH SCHOOL. AND ALL THESE YEARS, I'VE BROUGHT, NOT TO BE BRAGGING BUT THOUSANDS OF VISITORS TO THE ISLAND, NOT ONLY FOR THE TOWN WITH YOU ALSO SOME OF YOU WEREN'T HERE YET, THE FRFRENCH NAVY.

>> OF COURSE, I TALK TO THESE PEOPLE AND WOULD YOU BELIEVE THAT NONE OF THESE PEOPLE EVER SAID, HOW COME YOU DON'T HAVE A PARK ON THE WATERFRONT? NEVER. ALL THEY SAID WAS THE SAME, BOY, THIS PLACE IS NICE. THESE ARE REAL TRAINS, REAL OLD BUILDINGS, A REAL PORCH. JUST NICE. IT'S

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HOW EVERYTHING IS BUILT AROUND PARKING LOT A, B, C, D. IF THIS GOES AHEAD, SHRIMP FEST WILL HAVE TO BE STAGGERED. IT'S FINE THE WAY IT WORKS. OF COURSE, THE SHORELINE, OF COURSE THAT HAS TO BE FIXED, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SURFACE AND THE USAGE, HALF LAWN, HALF PARKING. SOMETIMES WE HAVE TOURISTS BUSES PARKED THERE, IT WILL NOT FEEL IN THE PLAN. THERE'S SOME PEOPLE IN THE AREA THAT LOVE A PARK, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THE AREA OF NORTH TRUMP STREET. USE SOME OF THOSE SPOTS FOR A PARK. AS IT COMES TO PARKING LOT A, B, C, AND D, IF IT'S NOT BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. LET'S MAKE SURE THE BUSINESSES ARE ACCESSIBLE, AND PEOPLE CAN EAT AND DRINK AND HANG OUT WITHOUT HAVING TO FIND THEIR WAY DOWNTOWN. THANK YOU

SIR. >> ALEXANDRIA? >> ALEXANDRIA I LIVE AT 646

SPANISH WAY EAST. >> I'VE COME TO PRAISE YOU IN BEING PROACTIVE IN OUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN VIRENDS. COMBINED TO MAKE THEM THE TREASURES IN OUR TOWN. THIS COMMUNITY HAS MANY LEADERS NOT JUST FROM YESTERDAY BUT ALSO FOR TOMORROW. HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE PAST 12 MONTHS. FOLLOWING A SPEECH, THE COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY FOR RESOLUTION 202028, UNTIL JUNE 2020 MANY COMMISSION MEMBERS JOINED OUR POLICE CHIEF JAMES T HURLY IN A PEACEFUL MARCH HIGHLIGHTING THE NATIONAL PROBLEM OF POLICE BRUTALITY. MATCHED HIS RECORD OF POSITIVE COMMUNITY RELATIONS. OUR FORCE INCLUDES OFFICERS LIKE OFFICER GERALD MITCHEL. IN DECEMBER, 2020, THEN MAYOR, JOHNMY MILLER ISSUED HIS LAST LETTER OF APPRECIATION TO HONOR PAST MAYOR CHARLES ALBERT. CITY ATTORNEY TAMMI BACH MADE A HOME DELIVERY OF THE PROCLAMATION, PREPARE WOULD BY OUR WONDERFUL CITY CLERK. IN JANUARY, 2021, CITY MARTIN, RESPONDING TO OTHER CITY COMMISSIONERS ANNOUNCED THAT THE CITY WOULD HONOR MAYOR CHARLES ALBERT, AND PAST VICE MAYOR PATRICIA THOMPSON. DETAILS ARE FORTH COMING. JOHNNY MILLER, GREETED MARCHERS IN THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. PARADE. EQUITY COALITION. WHO RODE IN THE PARADE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND OFFICERS, THE TREMENDOUS VALUE OF OUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN HERITAGE HERE

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>> THANK YOU MA'AM. >> MR. GLENN STEAD LETTER. >> A COUPLE OF BRIEF OBSERVATIONS AND QUESTIONS, I THINK IT WRAPS UP A LOT OF WHAT THE VICE MAYOR SAID. I'M CURIOUS OF THE PROCESS YOU USE TO PRIORITIZE YOUR BUDGET. THINGS THE CITY HAS TO DO, THINGS THE CITY SHOULD DO, AND THEN THE THINGS THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO DO. WHAT I'M CURIOUS IS HOW YOU PUT IT IN THOSE BUCKETS AND WHAT THE PLAN IS TO PUT THEM IN THE BUCKETS. A LOT OF THESE PLAN ARE BEAUTIFUL. BEAUTIFUL DOESN'T EQUAL MONEY. BEAUTIFUL EQUALS NICE. OKAY, THAT'S NICE.

BUT EVERY SINGLE ELEMENT YOU PUT, YOU SHOULD HAVE A DEMAND SIGNAL FOR EACH ELEMENT IN THAT PLAN WHERE THE CITY NEEDS THAT ATTRIBUTE. AS AN EXAMPLE, THE MOST EXPENSIVE NICEST PARK THE CITY HAS WAS GIVEN TO YOU BY MOTHER NATURE AND GOD. WHAT'S THE SCHEDULE TO MAINTAIN THE BEACH? THE SECOND MOST VALUABLE PARK YOU HAVE IS THE CITY MARINA, AND THAT'S BEEN A DISASTER. NOT A CITY SECRET. AS A TAXPAYER, WHY WOULD I GIVE YOU MORE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO OPEN ANOTHER PROJECT WHEN THERE'S BEEN A PROPENSITY NOT TO MANAGE THE ONES YOU HAVE. SHOW ME THE PLAN TO MANAGE THE ASSETS THAT YOU HAVE. IF YOU HAVE AN ASSET OWNED BY THE CITY YOU SHOULD HAVE A SCHEDULE ON THE MAINTENANCE FOR IT. LIKE THE BEACH ACCESS. IF I HAVE TO ASK FOR IT, YOU DON'T HAVE ONE. LIKE, THE MARINA WHEN IT WAS GIVEN TO YOU. WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THE FIRST 20 YEARS. AND THERE'S A SIMPLE MISTAKE.

IF YOU HAVE AN ASSET, WHERE'S THE PLAN TO MAINTAIN IT? IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO MAINTAIN IT, DON'T BUY IT. NOBODY HERE BUYS A CAR AND ASSUMES THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR GAS, AND MAINTENANCE. I'D LOVE TO SEE A PLAN BROUGHT TO PRIORITIZE BUDGETING. THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> VICE MAYOR.

>> YES, SIR? >> IN A FEW MINUTES WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT CAPITAL

IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND IT WILL ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. >> I WOULD LIKE THAT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. NOT ON THE

AGENDA. AND AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE WE'LL TAKE A BREAK. SO >> RECONVENE, PLEASE.

>> YES. >> WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. THE COMMISSION DISCUSSION.

[6.1 SUSTAINABLITY PRACTICES]

>> ABOUT TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO A CITIZEN CAME TO ME AND SAID WHATEVER HAPPENED TO SUSTAINABILITY? REMEMBER, SUSTAINABLE FERANDINA WAS WAS A COMMITTEE WE HAD. SO I THOUGHT I WOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO GIVE IT A LITTLE HISTORY. IT'S RELATIVELY IMPOSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE IN TWO HOURS. 2008, RESOLUTION 37, AND THIS IS ON THE AGENDA, IT'S AN ATTACHMENT. BASICALLY TOLD THE CITY WAS A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH A GREEN BUILDING TO WORK WITH THE GREEN BUILDING COALITION. IN ABOUT 2013, SUSTAINABLE FERANDINA WHICH

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RENEWABLE ENERGY, REMEMBER THIS IS ALL TIED TO THE ISSUES OF WHEN YOU WORRY ABOUT SHORELINE STABILIZATION BECAUSE OF SEA LEVEL RISING, THIS IS ALL TOGETHER. WE JUST PUT THREE ROOFS ON AND WE MISSED THE BOAT IN MY OPINION. THEY WERE ALL POSITIONED RIGHT, THE TOP TRACER ATTACK WOULD HAVE TAKEN THAT BUILDING AND POSSIBLY THE WHOLE GULF COURSE OFF THE GRID. AND WE ACTUALLY SAID, YOU WOULD GET 15% ON DENSITY INCREASES FOR SUSTAINABLE SITE DEVELOPMENT AND 35% FOR GREEN BUILDING CERTIFICATION. WHETHER, LEADS OR HOMES, OR WHATEVER, FTU REBATES, THEY USED TO GIVE A QUOTABLE TAX BUT THEY DON'T ANYMORE. AND THAT BECOMES A COST ISSUE. YOU HAVE TO BE A 15 SEE, SEASONAL EMERGENCY EFFICIENCY RATING. I'M JUST SAYING THAT AND SOMEHOW I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT MOVED BACK TO THE FOREFRONT, SUSTAINABILITY. THE LICK TRICK BILL IN 2014 WAS $980,000. THE BUDGET THIS YEAR IS $146,000.

>> THE BUDGET THIS YEAR IS $140,046,820. IT WAS 980 IN 2014. IN 2020 IT WAS 1 MILLION ONE HUNDRED $45. IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. WE DON'T NEED PEOPLE UP AND DOWN THE THERMOSTATS, AND THOSE DOCUMENTS ALTHOUGH YOU WHAT THE ENERGY PLAN WAS THE IMPLEMENTATION. I THINK IT'S TIME TO MOVE IT BACK U FRONT AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PUSHING UP. SO EVEN OUR PURCHASING. WE HAVE A PURCHASING POLICY THAT ALLOWS FOR 15% INCREASE FOR BASICALLY RENEWABLE TYPE. BOARD WALKS WE BUILT LAST YEAR DID HAVE RECYCLED PRODUCT. I'D LIKE TO PUSH IT TO WHERE IT'S MORE UP

FRONT. THIS WAS IT. >> OKAY. ANY COMMENTS FOR THE VICE MAYOR?

>> I HAVE A COUPLE. BECAUSE I HAVE ALSO WONDERED ABOUT RENEWABLE ENERGY AND SOLAR, AND

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RECOGNIZED. >> YES, IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN 25 YEARS TO GET A RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT. AND THAT WAS FOR THE ENTIRE CART PART. SO IT DOESN'T, SOLAR, UNFORTUNATELY, SOUNDS NICE, IT JUST DOESN'T RETURN. IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE. AND THE REASON THAT THE SOLAR WAS TAKEN OFF WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS A WHOLE PUNCH OF PUNCTURES IN THE ROOF. IT'S

NOT COST EFFECTIVE. >> SO, IF YOU COULD COME TO THE LECTERN, I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU

A QUESTION, JEREMIAH. >> AND IF YOU COULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

>> JEREMIAH PUBLIC WORKS. >> WHERE DO YOU SEE SOLAR AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE THIS QUESTION. SO, WE PUT A SOLAR FIELD OUT IN THE WATER DEPARTMENT, AND SO, OBVIOUSLY, THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS WORKING THERE. BUT, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ROOFS AND STRUCTURES, IT DOESN'T WORK THERE. WHERE DO YOU SEE THE SOLAR GOING SO THAT WE COULD GET TO THIS RENEWABLE

ENERGY USE IF YOU COULD UPDATE US. >> ABSOLUTELY. SO, SOLAR HAS IT'S VALUE IN PLACES AND OF COURSE WITH THE WASTE WATER AND WATER PLANT THAT YOU REFERRED TO, THE DEMAND IS CONSTANT. THOSE RUN 24/7, HIGH ENERGY PUMPS. IN SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS AND TO THE VICE MAYOR'S POINT, WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROCESS IN REDUCING SOME OF OUR CONSUMP SHEN NEEDS. NOW YOU'RE PULLING 5 WATTS AND YOU'RE PULLING A FRACTION OF THE ENERGY. WE DO LOOK AT WHEN EVER WE DO NEW PROJECTS, WITH YOU LOOK INTO WHAT'S THE DRAW AND THE ELECTRICAL NEEDS WILL SOLAR PAY OFF? MOST OF THE TIMES IT DOESN'T. IN THE CASE OF THE FLEET FACILITY, THE RETURN ON INVESTMENTS, 25 YEARS. THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THE SOLAR PANEL SUNSHINE 20. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO LOWER OUR ENERGY DEPENDANCY AND CONSUMPTION THROUGH LED LIGHTING, REFLECTIVE OUT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE - ADDRESSED IS THE SOLAR SYSTEM AT THE REC CENTER WAS THERMAL. IT JUST WARMED THE WATER AND THE VENDOR NO LONGER PROVIDES SYSTEMS LIKE THAT. THE RETURN WASN'T THERE. IF THE NEED'S THERE, WE WOULD DEFINITELY

PURSUE IT. >> AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE, VICE MAYOR MENTIONED ELECTRIC VEHICLES. AND WE KNOW FEDEX AND AMAZON ARE GOING ALL ELECTRIC DELIVERY. SO WHERE ARE WE IN THE FUTURE OF ACQUIRING VEHICLES? WHAT IS YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE PLAN? DO WE HAVE ONE?

>> WE DO. SPECIFICALLY, LIKE WHAT YEAR ARE WE GOING TO? IT'S IN THE FIVE YEAR PLAN. WE'RE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON, WE KNOW THE BIG PLAYERS, YOU'VE GOT TESLA IN A RUSH TO GET THE ELECTRIC TRUCK ON THE MARKET. SOME OF OUR BIGGER AMAZON ORDERED 100,000 UNITIES. WE ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO WANT AND CHARGE IF THE VEHICLE'S EQUIPPED TO DO SO. THEY'RE PHASING OUT THE 3G AS WE ALL KNOW. WE WILL HAVE TO REPLACE THE SIM CARD ON THAT. WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MARKET AND PLAN ON HAVING SOMETHING HERE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

>> I WANTED TO POINT OUT, JEREMIAH, WAS THE REC CENTER WAS SOLAR HOT WATER. AND IT WAS REALLY MORE OF A ROOF ISSUE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. AND PART OF THAT PROBLEM WAS THAT, IT WAS A

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BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE PUSHING FOR. LESS THAN TWO HOURS. >> THANK YOU, JEREMIAH.

APPRECIATE IT. >> IS THAT ALL SIR? >> YES.

[6.2 VISIONING WORKSHOP JANUARY 27, 2021]

>> ITEM 6.2, VISION AND WORKSHOP. THIS IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY THE MAYOR. AND SO, THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS THAT A WEEK FROM TOMORROW, THE FIVE OF US WILL SPEND AN ENTIRE DAY. AT THIS SESSION. AND WHEN YOU HAVE FIVE INDIVIDUALS SPENDING AN ENTIRE DAY TOGETHER, WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW IS THEIR EXPECTATION FOR THE OUTCOMES AT THE END OF THAT DAY.

AND I KNOW MS. JACOBE IS WATCHING. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM EACH COMMISSIONER, WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTATION IS, ONE, TWO, OR THREE ITEMS. AT THE END OF THAT DAY, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE HOPING THE OUTCOMES ARE. WHAT IS IT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH? THAT'S THE QUESTION.

>> THE QUICK DRAW TO THE LIGHT. I'LL FLICK MINE FIRST. I'D SAY, I HAVE GOT A FEW QUICK GOALS. I WANT TO FIND OUT WHERE EVERYONE IS AS A BOARD, WHERE ARE WE TOGETHER AS A COMMISSION. IT'S VERY RARE WE GET TO TALK TOGETHER AND THIS WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. MY NUMBER TWO, IS MORE OF A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER. IF I COULD ASK ONE ABOUT THIS. I'VE GOT SOMETHING I WANT TO MAYBE PUT FORWARD FOR THE COMMISSION. AND IT'S LATE NOTICE. BUT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE WERE TO REDUCE THE BUDGET OF EACH DEPARTMENT. I WOULD SAY IF EACH DEPARTMENT WAS MAYBE TO PREPARE, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT IF YOU HAD TO REDUCE THE BUDGET BY 10% IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND WHAT WOULD THE IMPACT BE ON THE DEPARTMENT. THE REASON I HAD LIKE TO SEE THIS AS SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MAKING NO IMPACTS, BUT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD EXERCISE, AND IT'S SOMETHING I KNOW OTHER GOVERNMENT BODIES DO TO REMAIN EFFICIENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT COULD PUT THAT TOGETHER IN EIGHT DAYS, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. THAT'S A GOAL, WHAT KIND OF BUDGET

EXPECTATIONS WE WOULD HAVE FOR THE YEAR. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU WISH TO THINK ABOUT THIS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO EMAIL THE CITY MANAGER IN ADVANCE OF NEXT WEEK'S MEETING. BUT IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE

THAT, THAT COULD BE GREAT. SO VICE MAYMAYOR? >> MY GOAL IS TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE GOING, CAPITAL PROJECTS. AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND THOSE AND PUT THE RIGHT PRIORITIES ON THEM. LIKE I'VE SAID FOR GOING INTO MY 6TH YEAR, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT COMMISSION GOALS DO NOT TRUMP CITY REQUIREMENTS. WE HAVE JOBS TO DO, WE HAVE LEVELS OF SERVICE TO DO. AND I'LL HIT A LITTLE BIT ON THAT ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. BOUNCING REALLY QUICK TO SUSTAINABILITY. HERE WE HAD A 2008 RESOLUTION AND IT WENT DEAD IN THE WATER. BUT, I THINK OUR BIGGEST CRISIS IS GOING TO BE, WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF GOALS AND DESIRES BUT HOW WILL WE PAY FOR THOSE AND WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES? AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WILL

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ESTABLISH THAT. >> I'VE THREE GOALS TO PUT FORWARD, I WILL HAVE THE FUNDING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME FROM AND WHAT IS ACCOMPLISHABLE IN THE NEXT YEAR. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PLAN AND MANAGE THE MARINA DEBT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE THE GULF COURSE AND MANAGE THE DEBT. AND BASICALLY WITH A CAPITAL PLAN, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A BIT, BUT ONE OF MY GOALS IS TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR ALL THE CITY ASSETS. I THINK THE ISSUE IS THAT'S GOING FORWARD IS WHERE'S THE MONEY

GOING TO COME FROM. >> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER

ROSS. ANYONE ELSE? >> OKAY. I'LL SPEAK ON THIS, CITY MANAGER AND I HAVE ON GOING CONVERSATIONS AND I'VE SAID THIS TO THE CITY MANAGER. AND I'LL SAY IT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO GET OUR HOUSE IN ORDER. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, IS FOR MANY YEARS, WE HAVE NEGLECTED OUR ASSETS. AND THAT'S NOT AS A RESULT OF STAFF, THAT'S AS A RESULT OF COMMITTING THE PROPER RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN THOSE ASSETS. AND THE BEST EXAMPLE I CAN GIVE YOU IS THE BEACH WALK OVER CRISIS WHERE WE HAD TO CLOSE 12 WALK OVERS, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF THEM. WE DIDN'T BUDGET THE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE WALKWAYS. THAT'S ONE GLARING EXAMPLE. WE HAVE TECH CENTER, THE ENGINEERS WERE HERE, INSPECTING THIS BUILDING. SO CITY HALL. NEEDS WORK. THE TECH CENTER NEEDS WORK, THE MARINA WE'RE FINISHING UP, THE GULF COURSE DEFINITELY NEEDS WORK. SO WE HAVE ALL THESE ASSETS WE HAVE NOT TAKEN CARE OF. AND BEFORE WE LOOK AT SHINY NEW OBJECTS. WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES TO GET OUR HOUSE IN ORDER AND YET LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS? SO, THAT'S THOSE ARE MY PRIORITIES FOR IN A. OKAY. ITEM 6.3, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDING PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY

[6.3 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDING]

VICE MAYOR KREGER. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> CAN YOU PUT UP THE

POWERPOINT PLEASE. >> I MADE THIS POWER POINT MYSELF, GUYS.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THREE PAGES. AND THIS IS ON THE AGENDA. IT WAS FORWARDED.

>> I HAVE IT ON MY SCREEN. >> SO, I'LL GO AHEAD, BASICALLY, THE FIRST SLIDE IS VERY SIMPLE, THE STATE STATUE REQUIRES FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PANS IS PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO, IT'S A REQUIRED PART, IT'S AT LEAST FIVE YEARS, IT'S THE SCHEDULE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WHICH INCLUDE ANY PUBLICLY FUNDED PROJECTS, PROJECTS NECESSARY TO ENSURE ANY ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS ARE ACHIEVED AND TO MAINTAIN FOR THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD MUST BE IDENTIFIED EITHER FUNDED OR UNFUNDED AND GIVEN A PRIORITY FOR FUNDING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE GOAL WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PLANS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OF $25,000 OR MORE, CAN MAINTAIN ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE, ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE IS IDENTIFIED. POLICE, FIRE, PARKSES, ET CETERA. FIVE YEARS, AND ESTABLISHES PRIORITIES. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, YOU'LL SEE THE PRIORITIES. THERE'S 1-A REQUIRED TOR SAFETY. MEET THE REGULATION, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT

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SO, THEY'RE ALL IN THERE WE CAN MAKE BETTER JUDGMENTS. GULF COURSE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO THERE? DO WE FUND EVERYTHING? NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. MONEY'S THE ISSUE. I DO BELIEVE WE'VE MADE PROGRESS WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. I THINK THIS YEAR WASN'T GREAT BUT LAST YEAR WE MADE PROGRESS BY BRINGING IN A SEPARATE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT IT. A DIRECTOR DOESN'T NEESSARILY KNOW WHAT THE CONDITION OF A BUILDING IS. A DIRECTOR KNOWS WHAT THEIR PROMISES REQUIRE. THAT MOVES TO THE THIRD SLIDE WHICH IS A BUILDING ASSESSMENT. WE HAVE AN ASSESSMENT THAT IDENTIFIES THE BUILDINGS AND WHAT THEIR AGES ARE, BUT THERE'S VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT, ROOFS, WALLS, WINDOWS, BUILDING SYSTEMS AND THAT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION. WE'VE BEEN DOING WINDOWS FOR FIVE YEARS, IN THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TUCK POINT.

NOW, I THINK IT WASN'T BEFORE. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CODE COMPLIANCE, LIFE SAFETY, AIR QUALITY. AIR QUALITY IS A BIG DEAL IN THE LIFE CYCLE COSTING. AND I THINK I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AND HOPEFULLY, WE CAN FIND SOME WAY TO EFFECTIVELY DO THAT AND GET THAT. WE GOT LOTS OF BUILDINGS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BIG BUILDINGS. I MEAN HERE WE'VE GOT $50,000 TO SPEND AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE PUT INTO BUILDING OVER THE YEARS, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE AIR QUALITY AND THE OTHER ISSUES. I THINK THAT'S IT. BUT, LIKE I SAY, IS, WE'RE TALKING ALL THE MONEYS DOWN THE LINE AND THEY' IN THAT PLAN. AND SO, IF THEY'RE NOT IN THERE, EVEN UNFUNDED, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, THEY SHOULD BE IN THERE.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> I PROVIDED A LIST THAT A NUMBER OF US CAME UP WITH WITH ALL THE FACILITIES THAT THE CITY OWNS AND IT WASN'T DONE UNTIL RECENTLY. AND I CROSS CHECKED THAT WITH THE COUNTY, AND WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO IS COME UP WITH THE CURRENT CONDITION OF EACH ONE OF THOSE ASSETS AS A BASELINE. AND COME UP WITH WITH AN EVALUATION OF REPAIR FOR THE ASSETS AND WHAT'S IT GOING TO COST. WE'VE GOT 50 BEACH ACCESSES. WE'VE GOT PUBLIC BUILDINGS, WE'VE GOT EMERGENCY SERVICE, WE'VE GOT PARKING LOTS, ROADS, THE CEMETERY, WE HAVE THE

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GOALS GOING INTO THIS MEETING ON NEXT WEEK. SO... >> COMMISSIONER?

>> THANK YOU. I LOOK FORWARD TO LOOKING THROUGH THIS LIST AND MAKING SURE WE MAKE SMART

DECISION ABOUT IT NEXT WEDNESDAY. WE SHOULD BE GOOD. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON

CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT? >> GOOD? >> GOOD SIR.

[6.4 OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY (OHPA)]

>> ITEM 6.4 OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY. THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN I ATTENDED THE OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY MEETING AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN. I WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. BASICALLY, THEY NOW HAVE YOUTUBE AND IF YOU WANT TO GO TO YOUTUBE, GO TO THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE A BUTTON, AND PUSH IT AND YOU CAN VIEW THE PORT MEETINGS. NUMBER TWO: WE SENT A LETTER TO THEM, CONCERNING OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR GRANT AND THEIR ATTORNEY WHO IS ABOUT TO END HIS TENURE, BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO BECOME A JUDGE IS GOING TO REPLY PRIOR TO HIS LEAVING BY THE END OF JANUARY TO THAT LETTER, SO HE SAYS. THEN, THERE WAS HE'S ALSO, THE ATTORNEY THEIR CURRENT ATTORNEY WHOSE ABOUT TO LEAVE IS ALSO GOING TO SEND US A PROPOSED LOCAL AGREEMENT ON THE TERMS THAT THE PORT IS WILLING TO ENGAGE WITH US. THE CHAIRMAN AT THAT MEETING ALSO SAID THAT HE HAS NO INTENTION OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS OF THE PORT EXPANDING OUTSIDE OF IT'S CURRENT FOOTPRINT SO THAT WAS GOOD. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS THEY HAVE HIRED NEW INTERIM PORT ATTORNEY WHO IS THE COMMISSIONER FULWOOD. CAME IN WITH A SIGNED CONTRACT FROM FORMER COMMISSIONER STURGES. THEY VOTED 4-1 TO ACCEPT HIM AS THE INTERIM ATTORNEY. THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER ATTORNEY AND SEE WHERE THEY GO FROM THERE. THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

>> COMMISSIONER STURGES. I THOUGHT THEY HAD SOME SORT OF STRUCTURE THAT THEY HAD TO PULL

A PERMIT AND DID THEY PULL THE PERMIT? >> YES, WELL, SORT OF. THAT'S A LONG STORY, BUT IT HAD TO DO WITH THE NEW BUILDING THAT WAS PUT UP AND ACTUALLY THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AT THAT MEETING AND THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD FINISHED THE BUILDING ON THE 14TH OF DECEMBER, I'M DOING THIS FROM MEMORY, AND THERE WERE FEW BUREAUCRATIC DETAILS, HAD TO DO WITH NEVER GETTING THEIR FLOOD ELEVATIONS AND A NUMBER OF SIGNIFICANT ISSUES REQUIRED BY THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE AND OUR FLOOD ORDNANCES AND I THINK THOSE

ISSUES ARE BEING WORKED OUT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON? >> YOU GOOD, SIR IN

>> YEP. THANK YOU SIR. >> ALL RIGHT. ITEM 6.5, COVID-19 THIS WAS PLACED ON THE

[6.5 COVID19]

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AND I FIND THAT TYPE OF THING PROBLEMATIC IN THE FAIR DISTRIBUTION OF THE VACCINE.

AND I GET THESE TEXTS AND I GET THESE EMAILS, AND THE WORSE FEELING THAT YOU CAN HAVE IS BEING MAYOR OF THE CITY AND YOU ARE HELPLESS. YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO POWER. AND THE CITY MANAGER, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, I WAS IN A MEETING WITH THEM, AND THEY HAD JUST SPOKEN WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SERVICES, I HAVE WRITTEN TO THE CITY MANAGER, HEY, WHY DON'T WE SPEND $15,000. THEY SAID WE COULD HAVE THE PFIZER VACCINE. THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T HAVE IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE REFRIDGEATION EQUIPMENT. I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE CITY MANAGER.

HE WAS TOLD THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE THE PFIZER VACCINE. WELL, LOW AND BEHOLD. GUESS WHAT I READ TODAY, THEY HAVE THE PFIZER VACCINE. THIS SHOWS ME THE INSANITY OF THIS VACCINE PROGRAM. AND I WANTED TO PUT THOSE NUMBERS UP THERE. SO YEAH, 5,125 PEOPLE IN VACCINATED, ONLY 367 HAVE HAD BOTH DOSES. LESS THAN 5% OF THE POPULATION HAS RECEIVED ONE DOSE. AND WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH JANUARY. AT THIS RATE, HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE BECAUSE EVERYONE IN OUR COUNTY VACCINATED. THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS, IF ANYONE ELSE HAS

SUGGESTIONS FOR COMMENTS, PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> VICE MAYOR?

>> YEAH, I THINK AN IMPORTANT NUMBER IS THE DEATHS THERE ARE 73 DEATHS IN THE COUNTY. WON'T BE LONG BEFORE THERE'S ONE DEATH PER THOUSANDS, WHICH IS NOT A GOAL THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET TO. I AM ATTENDING ALL EMERGENCY MEETINGS AND, LISTENING AND WATCHING AND APPROPRIATELY MAKING COMMENTS AND I'VE COMMENTED THAT 19% OF THE COUNTY IS OVER 65, BUT FERANDINA IS 32%. AND AS YOU KNOW THEY CHANGED THE PROCEDURE TO GET THE VACCINE FROM GETTING YOUR TICKET TO NOW YOU GET ON THE LIST AND YOU STAY ON THE LIST RANDOMLY SELECTED. IT STILL MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE VACCINE. I THINK WHICH HAS BEEN POINTED OUT BY OTHER MEMBERS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GET BETTER, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL. I WANT TO COMPLIMENT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WHO HAD COMMITTED LONG AGO TO ASSIST. AND WE HAVE FIVE FIRE-FIGHTERS TO ASSIST ALONG WITH THE COUNTY WHO HAS 20 AND THEY WERE GIVING SHOTS YESTERDAY AT PEC CENTER. I THINK UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE CITY HAS STEPPED FORWARD THE BEST WE CAN.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT, I BELIEVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THE VICE MAYOR'S SENTIMENTS THAT I'M GRATEFUL AND THANKFUL TO ALL OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, GETTING OUT THE VACCINE. I WANT TO BE THANKFUL TO THEM FOR GETTING IT OUT TO OUR CITIZENS. AND THERE IS -- I HAVE SOME LIMITED OPTIMISM. THE SUPPLY CHAIN IS RAMPING UP. MUCH LIKE A YEAR AGO WHEN WE WERE AT THE BEGINNING WHEN WE HAD NO MASKS AND IT WAS HARD TO FIND THEM ANYWHERE, OR EVEN TOILET PAPER, AND THE SUPPLY CHAIN RAMPS UP.

I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT WE'LL SEE AN EXPONENTIAL CURVE. I'M OPTIMISTIC AND THANKFUL TO THE

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FIRST RESPONDERS AND WE'LL KEEP ON MOVING FORWARD. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER

[6.6 AGENDA FORMAT]

COMMENTS? >> NONE. >> THAT CONCLUDES COVID-19, ITEM 6.6, AGENDA FORMAT. SO WHEN THIS REFERENCES IS WE'RE AT 10 AFTER 8:00. AND WE'RE NOT THROUGH COMMISSION DISCUSSION. SOL IN SPEAKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER, THE THOUGHT WAS PROPOSED ABOUT HAVING A WORKSHOP COMMENCING AT 5:00 BEFORE OUR REGULAR MEETING IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ONTO CITY BUSINESS. YOU WANT TO SAY MORE

ABOUT IN A? >> I THINK YOU SUMMARIZED IT WELL, MR. MAYOR. THE INTENT IS THAT THIS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT NOT ONLY TONIGHT BY THE MAYOR BUT REPEATEDLY SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT ATTEND THE COMMISSION MEETINGS, IT TAKES US AWHILE TO GET THERE. SO THE THOUGHT WAS TO CONVENE A WORKSHOP FROM 5-6:00 BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING, DURING THAT WORKSHOP IN LINE WITH THE CURRENT COMMISSION RULES, THERE'LL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS TWO-FOLD. NUMBER ONE, THIS IS THE ONLY HOUR THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO ENGAGE EACH OTHER. AND IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT THAT MAY BE TRACKED FROM OUR HOUR, WHICH AS YOUR FINDING OUT AN HOUR GOES BY PRETTY QUICKLY.

THE SECOND POINT IS MAYOR LEDNOVICH POINTED OUGHT AT 6:00, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS ON THE AGENDA IS FIRST AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC'S COMMENTS. THEY CAN COMMENT AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL FOLLOWING CITY COMMISSION MEETING OR THERE ARE PLENTY OF WAYS TO ENGAGE YOU THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, MEDIA, EMAIL, PHONE CALLS. AT THIS WORKSHOP IS DISCUSSION ONLY. IT'S GOING TO COME BACK IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ACTION ON IT, IT WILL RETURN TO A CITY COMMISSION AGENDA AT WHICH TIME ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS AVAILABLE. THAT'S HOUR WILL BE GOLDEN FOR THE FIVE OF YOU TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC AGENDA. SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSED. AND YOU HAVE AN HOUR TO DISCUSS THAT AND WE CAN CARRY THINGS FORWARD UNDER THE DISCUSSION OR WE CAN START TO STRIKE THINGS OFF IF YOUR SATISFIED EITHER THAT THE DISCUSSION HAS REACHED A LOGICAL END, SO IF YOU'RE THINK BING THAT, WE LOOK AT IMPLEMENTING THAT CHANGE BEGINNING WITH THE

FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. SO YOUR NEXT MEETING. >> I'M ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH

THAT, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. >> VICE MAYOR? >> ME TOO. I LIKE IT. IF

THERE'S A DISCUSSION ITEM, I'D LIKE TO BE FIRST. >> (LAUGH)

>> OKAY. WE'LL APPLY THAT TO THE RULES. >> COMMISSIONER STURGES. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE FIVE OF US BEING ABLE TO HAVE AN CONVERSATION ABOUT THE THINGS TO HASH OUT AND SPEED UP THE MEETING. THESE

MEETINGS SHOULD TAKE TWO TO TWO AND-A-HALF HOURS. >> I THINK YOU WERE IN

AGREEMENT. DID I READ THAT DIRECTLY? >> I'M FINE.

>> SO, CITY CLERK, COMMENCING WITH OUR NEXT FEBRUARY 2ND, SO AT THE -- COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> JUST ONE SMALL QUESTION. >> YES, SIR. >> IF THERE'S SIX PTOPICS ON

THERE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THROUGH SIX TOPICS IN ONE HOUR? >> I KNEW SOMEBODY WOULD PUT A

FLY IN IT. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER THAT?

>> WELL, I'VE GOT AN ANSWER BUT. >> I THINK STAFF COULD USE DISCRETION AS TO WHAT'S HOT ON THE STOVE, YEAH, IF THERE'S EIGHT ITEMS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THE DISCUSSION ALONG OR IT GETS CARRIED TO THE NEXT MEETING. AGAIN, AN HOUR'S GOING TO GO BY FAST, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE HOOT HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A TOPIC. IF YOU WANT TO TALK FOR

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>> WE WILL BE BOLD, BRIEF, AND GONE, I THINK IT WILL ALL MOVE ALONG.

>> SO, WE'RE AGREED THAT COMMENCING ON FEBRUARY 2ND, GOING FORWARD THERE'LL BE A

WORKSHOP SESSION FOR ONE HOUR. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

> ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR? >> WITH NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT, CORRECT.

PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE AFFORDED DURING THE REGULAR MEETING Z ALL RIGHT, ITEM, 6.7. THIS IS

[6.7 TOPTRACER]

AND VICE MAY YARE KREGER AGREED, SAYING THAT THE TOPTRACER MARKETING PLAN WAS INSUFFICIENT.

LOW AND BEHOLD, EIGHT MONTHS LATER, I HAD A LUNCH WITH THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE WRRITZ.

SAID I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TOPTRACER. BECAUSE THE RITZ WOULD BE ONE OF OUR TOP CLIENTS TO DRIVE TOPTRACER. HE SAID TOPTRACER. WHAT'S THAT. I ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR WHICH IS WHY I'M TALKING ABOUT IT TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TWO SUBJECTS. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT MARKETING, AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT OPERATIONS. SO, IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, THIS WEEK, INDIGO. RELEASED THE FOLLOWING SOMEBODY VIDEO. IF YOU COULD CLICK ON THE LINK FOR ME, PLEASE. OKAY. AND YOU SEE THE VIDEO RIGHT THERE. PLAY THAT.

JUST TO BE CLEAR THERE'S NO SOUND ASSOCIATED WITH THIS VIDEO. CORRECT.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WAS RELEASED BY INDIGO. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT TOPTRACER IS FROM THAT VIDEO? NOW, IF YOU COULD GO BACK. THANK YOU, AND PLAY THE SECOND VIDEO. CAN YOU TELL WHAT

TOPTRACER IS FROM THAT? >> NOPE. >> THAT'S A FREE VIDEO THAT TOPTRACER PROVIDES. MY POINT BEING IS DO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR PRODUCT IS.

>> WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE RANGE IS THE TOPTRACER SCREENS. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A WALK

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THROUGH NOW ON HOW TO NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM. >> SO, IT'S UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR PRODUCT IS. OUR PRODUCT ISN'T THE DRIVING RANGE. OUR PRODUCT IS TOPTRACER. THAT'S WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT IN THE MARKET PLACE. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TOPTRACER, THE PRODUCT IS FAMILY AND GROUP ENTERTAINMENT. IT'S FAMILY AND GROUP DINING, IT'S FAMILY AND GROUP GAMES THAT ANYBODY CAN DO. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MARKETING. THAT'S WHAT WE INVESTED IN. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, THE MARKETING BEGAN WITH THIS I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THIS LOGO, THE LIGHTHOUSE PRIMARY, THIS WAS AN EMAIL SENT TO THE CITY MANAGER ON DECEMBER 2ND WITH A NEW BRANDING LOGO. SO HERE WE ARE ANNOUNCING A NEW BRANDING LOGO IN DECEMBER. WHEN WE APPROVED THIS FEBRUARY OF 2020. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE LIGHTHOUSE DRIVING RANGE. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? THE LIGHTHOUSE DRIVING RANGE COULD BE ANY COASTAL COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES. IT COULD BE ANYWHERE. SO, NO MENTION OF TOPTRACER WHICH IS THE PRODUCT WE'RE SELLING. NO MENTION OF FERNANDINA BEACH WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE. SO, WOULDN'T IT BE TOPTRACER RANGE OF FERNANDINA BEACH? THIS IS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE. NEXT SLIDE. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS THE FERNANDINA BEACH GULF CLUB FACEBOOK PAGE. THERE HAVE BEEN THREE POSTS ABOUT THE NEW DRIVING RANGE SINCE SEPTEMBER 3RD. THE LAST POST WAS A WEEK AGO. AND THAT POST WAS THE VIDEO OF THE NEW LOGO THAT I SHOWED YOU. IF YOU'RE I'M 73 YEARS-OLD. AND I KNOW THE BASIC MARKETING ELEMENTS OF DIGITAL MEDIA. DIGITAL MEDIA DEMANDS ATTENTION. IT DEMANDS REFRESHING. PEOPLE WANT NEW NEWS ALL THE TIME. THREE POSTS, SINCE SEPTEMBER. AND, ONE OF THE POSTS THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE JANUARY 8TH POST WAS ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE DRIVING RANGE AND THERE WAS NO MENTION OF TOPTRACER. TOPTRACER WASN'T EVEN MENTIONED AND THAT'S THE PRODUCT WE'RE SELLING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO MISSED OPPORTUNITIES. HERE'S THE TOPTRACER BUILDING. I TOOK THIS LAST WEEK. AND PEOPLE DRIVE BY THIS BUILDING. I'VE HAD LUNCH AT THE GULF COURSE AND I'VE HAD ACTUAL PLAYERS SAY TO ME, WHAT'S THAT BUILDING? WHAT'S THAT BUILDING? WHAT IS THAT? I MENTIONED THIS TO THE CITY MANAGER IN MY MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. PUT A DANG IN FRONT OF IT, "COMING SOON", GULF'S BIGGEST VIDEO GAME, TOPTRACER, EVERYBODY CAN PLAY. HAVE A SIGN "COMING SOON", MARKET THE BUILDING.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SAME THING WITH BILL MELTON, HIGHLY TRAFFICKED ROAD. WHAT'S THAT BUILDING THERE, PUT A SIGN, "COMING SOON", CREATE THE SIZZLE. THIS IS ALMOST A HALF MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT AND WE'RE NOT MARKETING IT. YOU CAN NEVER OVER MARKET. YOU WANT PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THIS. YOU WANT TO BUILD THE ANTICIPATION. SO, VERY, VERY, DISAPPOINTED IN THE MARKETING FOR THIS FACILITY. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE HAVE SOMETHING FROM INDIGO WHO IS

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SO I'M VERY, VERY, DISAPPOINTED IN THIS. I'M GOING TO TRANSITION TO THE OPERATION OF THE FACILITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND YOU COULD SKIP OVER THIS IN THE SAKE OF TIME. BUT, WE HAVE -- THIS BUILDING'S BEAUTIFUL. I'VE BEEN OUT THERE SEVERAL TIMES. IT'S A GREAT BUILDING. TALK ABOUT THE PRO FORMA, I'VE GONE RESEARCH ON TOPTRACER RANGES. ALL OF THE PRO FORMAS SAY THAT 60-65% OF YOUR REVENUE COMES FROM FOOD AND BEVERAGE. IT DOES NOT COME FROM PEOPLE POUNDING GULF BALLS. IT COMES FROM THEY'RE BEING THERE, PLAYING THE GAME, AND SPENDING THE TIME THERE FOR FOOD AND DRINK. NOW, THESE TWO DOORS, DOOR HERE, AND A DOOR THERE, THIS IS A MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM. BUT AS THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE MANAGER OF THE GULF COURSE TOLD ME, THIS IS WHERE THE FOOD, YOU WOULD GO IN AND YOU WOULD ORDER FOOD. NOW, YOU WILL NOTICE THERE'S NO WINDOW HERE. THERE'S NO FOOD AND BEVERAGE WINDOW THERE, WHERE THE PERSON STATIONED IN HERE, CAN A: SEE OUTSIDE, WHAT'S GOING ON, OR, IF THE PATRONS CAN WALK UP AND ORDER FOOD. HERE'S THE BIGGER PROBLEM, THE BIGGER PROBLEM IS THERE IS NO WATER SERVICE TO THIS BUILDING. THERE IS NO WATER SERVICE. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? BECAUSE THERE'S NO WATER SERVICE, WE CAN'T SERVE FOOD. WE CAN SERVE BAGGED SNACKS, WE CAN SERVE CANNED BEVERAGES, AND WATER, BUT WE CAN NOT PREPARE FOOD AND THIS IS 65% OF THE REVENUE. AND THIS IS THE LINCHPIN OF THE OPERATION IS FOOD AND BEVERAGE. AND WHAT I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN IS WHEN THIS PROPOSAL FIRST CAME UP, I HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS THAT IS THERE GOING TO BE FOOD SERVICE AT THE FACILITY? HAMBURGERS, HOT DOGS, NACHOS, POPCORN, BASIC FOOD THAT ANY LITTLE LEAGUE SNACK BAR CAN PROVIDE. ANY LITTLE LEAGUE SNACK BAR CAN PROVIDE THAT STUFF. BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE NO WATER, WE CAN'T. MY VOTE FOR THIS PROJECT WAS PREDICATED ON THAT PROMISEMENT AND IF I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, I WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT. NEXT SLIDE. SO, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE, SO DOWN HERE IS WHERE THE KITCHEN IS. IT'S IN THE CLUB HOUSE. AND THIS IS TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS. SO, YOU WILL GO INTO THAT ROOM, THAT WINDOWLESS ROOM. YOU WILL PLACE YOUR ORDER, YOUR ORDER WILL BE TRANSMITTED TO THE KITCHEN, PREPARED, AND THEN IT WILL HAVE TO BE GULF CARTED TO HERE. AND DELIVERED. SO, YOU'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE HERE. SO, LET ME SHOW OUT A REAL SCENARIO. MY WIFE AND I WERE AT BLUE SKY TOPTRACER RANGE IN JACKSONVILLE. WE WERE THERE LAST SATURDAY. THEY HAD A BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR A 10-YEAR-OLD. THERE WERE 10 ADULTS AND 20 KIDS. NICE PARTY, 20 PEOPLE. SO, IMAGINE, UNDER THIS OPERATIONAL SET UP, 20 PEOPLE HERE, ORDERING 20 MEALS, GO TO THIS KITCHEN. AND YOU GOT TO LOAD UP 20 MEALS ON A GULF CART AND THEN TRANSPORT IT ALL THE WAY BACK OVER HERE. THAT'S INSANITY. SO, OPERATIONALLY THERE ARE REAL PROBLEMS HERE. AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT

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NEXT SLIDE. SO, HERE WAS THE PRO FORMA. THAT'S GOT TO BE DOUBLE THAT NUMBER. SO, THE PRO FORMA IS INACCURATE FOR THIS TYPE OF OPERATION. AND THE REASON I'M POINTING THIS OUT, IS THIS REINFORCES WHY YOU NEED A KITCHEN IN THERE. OKAY. NEXT SLIDE.

>> SO, COMMISSIONER ROSS, IS A VERY WISE MAN AND HE SAYS TO ME, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING TO POINT OUT PROBLEMS, BUT YOU NEED SOLUTIONS. AND SO, YEAH, I POINTED OUT SOME PROBLEMS. HERE'S WHAT I BELIEVE THE SOLUTION IS: FIRST OF ALL, WE DELAY THE OPENING AT LEAST UNTIL APRIL-MAY UNTIL WE GET THE FOOD FIGURED OUT. I HAVE NOT SEEN A MARKETING PLAN. THE REALITY IS, THE MARKETING PLAN WAS LAID AT THE FEET OF STEVE MURPHY, MR. MURPHY LEFT AND NOW WE HAVE THE MARKETING PLAN WE HAVE IN PLACE. IT'S THE ROCKET SCIENCE. THERE'S NO RESTROOMS. SO REMEMBER THE OVERHEAD I SHOWED YOU, SO YOU GOT TO WALK TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS. REMEMBER PEOPLE WILL BE SITTING AROUND DRINKING BEVERAGES, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE KIDS. YOU HAVE TO WALK TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS FOR A RESTROOM. DON'T OPEN THIS FACILITY UNTIL IT'S RIGHT. AND MAKE THE GRAND OPENING GRAND. WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE, WE'LL HAVE COMMENTS. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE INDIGO MAKE THEY ARE PRESENTATION. ANY COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS?

>> MY COMMENTS IS THIS IS AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE THAT ARE SHOULD BE DEALT WITH BY THE OPERATOR. THE FIRST ISSUE BEFORE WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO MARKET SOMETHING IS TO FIGURE OUT WHOSE GOING TO MARKET IT. HOW MUCH ARE WE WILL TO GO SUBSIDIZE THIS FACILITY? THIS YEAR $220,000. WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. THE THIRD ISSUE, IS THE UTILITY FUND IS MORE THAN $1.5 MILLION. AND THE FOURTH ISSUE IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE GULF COURSE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS ARE $1.7 MILLION. SO, THAT'S ARE THE ISSUES THAT I THINK ARE

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WE'RE GOING TO SUCCEED. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE

ELSE? >> VICE MAYOR. >> BASED ON YOUR NUMBERS, AND I'LL ASSUME, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO RESOLVE, WHETHER IT'S OPERATIONAL OR NOT. NOT TO HAVE RESTROOMS IS REALLY A PROBLEM MORE SO JUST IN IT SELF. AND THE FOOD, I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS COME DOWN TO, GUESS WHAT? MONEY. YOU HAVE KNOW, AND AGAIN, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO? WE'RE COMMITTED AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, I AGREE WITH CHIP. WHOEVER IS GOING TO OPERATE HAS GOT TO COME UP WITH A PLAN. I'M NOT AT ALL DELAYING IT UNTIL WE HAVE A PLAN. I THINK YOU WILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE GOING THERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE MARKETING AND IT SHOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING

THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. >> I'LL BRIEFLY SPEAK, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT FIRST OF ALL, WHO DROPPED THE BALL? WHY IS THERE NO RESTROOMS, WHY IS THERE NO FOOD, AND WHY IS THIS COMING TO OUR ATTENTION. I WASN'T HERE SO I CAN'T MAKE PREVIOUS STATEMENTS ON THE PLANNING. THAT'S A LONG DISTANCE TO MA FOOD. IT WOULD BE VERY INADEQUATE. AND SECONDLY, I THINK OPERATIONS ARE MAKING A QUICK STATEMENT. I THINK THEY NEED TO BE CUT TO A MINIMUM AND LAY OUT A PLAN AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS IN EIGHT DAYS WHEN WE GO TO A MEETING ALL DAY LONG. BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO

BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> I HEARD THREE GREAT POINTS BY MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND VICE MAYOR. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHOSE GOING TO MANAGE THE COURSE. WHAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IN EIGHT DAYS. LET'S FIGURE THAT OUT AND GET IT DONE.

AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO INDGO'S PRESENTATION. >> I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR.

ZIMMER. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR US FOR THE RECORD. >> MY NAME IS DAN ZIMMER, 3339.

DAVID WITH US TODAY WHO IS OUR REGION DIRECTOR OF SALES AND MARKETING. FIRST I WANTED TO ADRESS JUST A COUPLE OF THE POINTS BROUGHT UP BY MAYOR LEDNOVICH, AND THEN WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION, JUST TO GO THROUGH THE MARKETING PLAN WHICH DAVID WILL RUN THROUGH THAT. IN REGARDS TO THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE SERVICE, AND OFFERINGS, THE INTENTION THERE IS TO HAVE A SERVER, ATTENDANT THAT GOES TO THE BAYS TO TAKE THE ORDERS. WE WANT THE GUESTS THERE TO REMAIN AT THE BAY, ENJOY THE TOPTRACER SYSTEM AND THE EXPERIENCE AND NOT HAVE TO LEAVE TO GO TO ORDER. DURING TIMES WHERE THERE IS NOT A SERVER, THEN WE HAVE A SET UP WHERE YOU CAN SCAN A QR CODE AT EACH BAY AND YOU COULD PLACE AN ORDER ON YOUR PHONE OR WHATEVER DEVICE THAT YOU HAVE WHICH GOES TO THE RESTAURANT AND THEN THAT WILL BE DELIVERED TO YOU ONCE YOU PLACED ORDER. SO THAT WOULD BE IN SCENARIOS IF THERE'S NOT A SERVER OR ATTENDANT THERE. IN REGARDS TO THE LOCATION OF THE KITCHEN, YES, 345 FEET, PLUS FOR MINUS, MAYBE ISN'T IDEAL. WE DO FEEL LIKE WE CAN HAVE A STRUCTURE IN PLACE WHERE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE FOOD SERVICE WITH THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE FACILITY DOES NOT HAVE WATER IN THE KITCHEN FACILITIES, THAT IS HOW WE STRUCTURED IT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE SERVICE. IN REGARDS TO THE GROUPS, YOU GAVE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF BIRTHDAY PARTY WHERE THERE WAS 20-30 PEOPLE THERE.

WHICH WE THE INTENTION IS TO HAVE MANY OF THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS. HOW WE WOULD HANDLE THOSE IS TO WORK WITH THOSE GROUPS IN ADVANCE. TO PUT TOGETHER THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE

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OR COMMENTS FROM THERE. >> IF YOU WOULD SAY YOUR NAME. >> MY NAME IS DAVID AND I LIVE AT 7456 LEESIDE DRIVE IN WIND MERE, FLORIDA, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR MARKETING PLAN TO YOU. WE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS TRYING TO GET IT READY AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LEARN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE NUMEROUS CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GOING ON IN DIFFERENT FACILITIES OF ALL DIFFERENT TYPES. AND WHAT WE HAVE FOUND ESPECIALLY IN THE COVID WORLD THE LAST YEAR IS EVERYTHING IS TAKING LONGER THAN WE WERE ORIGINALLY TOLD. SO WHAT WE FOUND WERE THE COUPLE OF PROPERTIES WHERE WE WERE AT WHERE WE DID EARLY MARKETING, ONLY TO HAVE IT DELAYED AND DELAYED AND DELAYED. WE FOUND IT WAS NOT A GOOD USE OF OUR MONEY. AND IT REALLY TURNED INTO A LOT OF CONFUSION, WITH PEOPLE GOING YOU KEEP SAYING IT'S GOING TO OPEN BUT IT KEEPS GETTING DELAYED. SO WHEN YOU'RE AT THE MERCY OF THE CONSTRUCTION, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE DOING IT APPROPRIATELY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VERY LARGE MARKETING BUDGET. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE SPENDING YOUR MONEY PROPERLY AND WISELY. SO WE'VE TRIED TO NARROW DOWN OUR MARKETING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE 30 TO 45 DAYS OUT FROM OPENING TO BE ABLE TO OPEN AND TAKE MONEY AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A BIG PUSH DURING THAT TIME. SO THERE'S NO DELAY OR WASTE AND THAT'S WHERE WE FELT WE HAD THEN AND WE STARTED PUSHING EVERYTHING LIKE YOU SAID WITH JANUARY 8TH POST, IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST STARTS THAT WE DID. WE STARTED IN SEPTEMBER, AND THEN WE PUT IT ON HOLD. SO THAT IS OUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND THEN I'LL EXPLAIN MORE AS WE GO THROUGH HERE. SO, YES, LIKE I SAID, THE LIGHTHOUSE RANGE, THAT IS OUR LOGO, WE'RE GOING TO USE THE BOTTOM LOGO FROM TOPTRACER A LOT WITH IT. LIGHTHOUSE DRIVING RANGE, POWERED BY TOPTRACER RANGE. THE REASON WE DO THAT IS A COUPLE OF REASONS, NUMBER ONE, WE WANT THIS TO BE A DESTINATION THAT IS EXCLUSIVE TO FERNANDINA BEACH AND THE GULF CLUB. SO WE WANT TO MARKET IT AS A DESTINATION. THE POWERED BY TOPTRACER RANGE IS HOW TOPTRACER LIKES IT TO BE MARKETED. THEY WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE US BRAND OUR FACILITY AND USE IT AS HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE, IT'S A TOPTRACER RANGE. IN ADDITION, IN A LOT OF MARKETING PIECES.

IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER AND IT'S ALL AT THE SAME PLACE. THIS WAS OUR THINKING AND PROCESS ON THE LIGHT HOUSE DRIVING RANGE. FIRST THING WE DID IS, OF COURSE, HERE ARE ALL THE THINGS WE NEED TO GET DONE AND GET READY SO WE CAN REALLY DO A BIG MARKETING PUSH. SO WE DID THE NAMING AND BRANDING WITH THE LIGHTHOUSE DRIVING RANGE. THE PREVIEW VIDEO THAT YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT, WE PUT THAT TOGETHER. WE'VE ALSO CREATED ALL PRINT AND DIGITAL MARKETING COLLATERAL, NOW, THE NICE THICK ABOUT THIS IS WE CAN UPDATE PICTURES WITH REAL PICTURES FROM THE FACILITY. WE CAN DO THAT AND WE CAN CHANGE OUR MESSAGES AT ANY TIME VERY EASILY. WE'VE

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RIGHT AROUND OPENING WE'RE GOING TO GET THE PRESS RELEASE OUT. A PRESS RELEASE IN AUGUST OR EVEN IN FEBRUARY, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LONG FORGOTTEN BY NOW. WE WANT TO GET THE MOST OUT OF THAT PRESS RELEASE AND THAT FREE PRESS THAT WE COULD GET FROM IT. SO WE WANT TO GET THAT OUT PRETTY CLOSE TO OPENING. WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO EMAIL COMMUNICATION, SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS, LIKED CAMPAIGNS AND SO ON. WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE GRAND OPENING AND THE GRASS ROOTS. AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH PROGRAMMING, SOCIAL MEDIA, EMAIL COMMUNICATION LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE ASSETS BUILT, IT'S JUST PUTTING THEM HOOT WHEN WE WANT TO PUT THEM OUT AND WE'LL LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF TRADITION MARKETING AS WELL, AS WE GO. MARKETING IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS WHEN I FIRST GOT INTO THE GULF BUSINESS 21 YEARS AGO. IT'S NOT LIKE THAT ANYMORE WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE I COULD BE FLUID WHEN THERE'S DELAYS ON CONSTRUCTION OR CHANGES ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE OR CHANGES IN OUR BUDGET AND OUR EXPENSES. SO THIS TIME OF MARKETING, WE'RE READY NOW TO FLOOD THE MARKET AND WE COULD BE NIMBLE BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR MARKET. LOOKING AT THE GRAND OPENING. HAVE A BIG GRAND OPENING AND PARTY IS WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT. IT'S A TOUGH THING TO MARKET RIGHT NOW BIG EVENTS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF BACKLASH. ONCE THAT CALIBRATION PERIOD IS COMPLETE, WHICH IS USUALLY A FEW WEEKS AFTER OPEN. WE WANT TO START HAVING DIFFERENT INDUSTRY NIGHTS. FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE WANT THE HOTELS TO COME OUT. THESE ARE JUST IDEAS, NOT SET IN STONE, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT. GET THE VACATION RENTAL COMPANIES OUT.

ALL THE DIFFERENT HOSPITALITIES, RESTAURANTS, BARS, SO ON, HAVE A FAMILY DAY R CORPORATE PARTNERS OUT THERE. VIP'S SUCH AS YOURSELVES. WE'RE DEPARTMENT LY FOLLOWING ALL THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SOCIAL DISTANCING AND GUIDELINES. FAMILIES, BUSINESSES, AND SO ON. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WE'LL HAVE, ONCE WE'RE OPEN AND HAVE A GOOD FEEL FOR WHERE THE DEMAND IS AND WHERE THE WHITE SPACES ON OUR SHEETS ARE THAT WE CAN FILL. WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH RANGE MANAGEMENTS, WE'RE 95% DONE WITH THAT ANYWAY. WE'LL DO WEEKLY SPECIALS DURING OUR SLOW TIMES. WE WANT TO DO A TOURNAMENT SERIES. WE WANT JUNIORS TO BE INVOLVED. WE WERE LISTENING TO THE GENTLEMAN TALK ABOUT THE BASE BALL FIELDS, WE'RE LIKE LET'S GET THEM OUT THERE TO HIT BALLS. WE'RE GOING TO DO A LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS AND HAVE EVENTS.

CLIFF LOVES PROGRAMMING AND LOVES HAVING EVENTS AS DO ALL OF US IN THE GULF INDUSTRY. IT'S THE FUNNEST THING WE DO IS HOSTING EVENTS. WE'RE READY TO GO, BUT WE JUST WANT TO HAVE A GOOD COMFORT LEVEL ON WHEN THAT OPENING DAY WILL BE SO WE COULD GET GOOD INFORMATION TO THE POTENTIAL CLIENTS. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DIDN'T FEEL THE MARKETING PLAN WAS READY TO GO IN FEBRUARY 2020. AND I GUARANTY IS WASN'T FULLY READY TO GO BECAUSE WE JUST, THAT WAS THE BEGINNING, THESE ARE THE BASICS WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO DIG IN AND PUT A GOOD PLAN TOGETHER AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND IT WILL BE SOMETHING WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON. WE HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS, MY PARTNER AND I MEET EVERYDAY AND TALK ABOUT FERNANDINA BEACH AMONG OTHER PROJECTS. YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING IT A WHOLE LOT MORE. I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED NOW, THAT MAYBE WE'LL WAIT UNTIL APRIL OR MAY. BUT THIS PROGRAM IS NIMBLE AND WE CAN SHUT IT DOWN WHERE WE NEED TO AND WE CAN TURN IT UP WHERE WE NEED TO TURN IT UP.

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INPUT OR COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE. >> VICE MAYOR? >> JUST, I'M A LITTLE I'LL JUST PUT THIS, PREMIERE ADVERTISING. I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT MENTIONED YET, THOSE ARE THE GUYS THAT CAN

DRIVE TOP OF THE LINE. >> SURE, THAT'S THE GRASS ROOTS, AS A MATTER OF FACT WE MET WITH THE CVB GENTLEMAN TONIGHT. AND THAT'S WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, LIKE THE INDUSTRY NIGHTS, HOSPITALITY AND SO ON. WE WILL GET ALL THE FOLKS INVOLVED. ALL THE FOLKS THAT

CAN HELP US MARKET. >> AND WE DO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CVB. A GULF DESTINATION MARKETING GROUP FOR THE FIVE COUNTIES IN NORTH FLORIDA. AND THROUGH FLORIDA'S GULF, THEY WILL ALSO PUSH OUT. SO WHEN WE HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS OR ACTIVITY, THAT WE'RE DOING, WE WILL ALSO PUSH IT OUT THROUGH PEOPLE AND THREW THE CVB AND LEVERAGE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AS WELL. BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE ISLAND, THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY ATTRACTIVE. RIGHT NOW IT'S 40% OF OUR PLAY IS OUT OF MARKET PLAY. SO THAT'S A LARGE SEGMENT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF TOPTRACER.

>> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I HAVAL COUPLE. >> OKAY.

>> SO YOU TALKED ABOUT GRASS ROOTS MARKETING. AND I BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT STARTED

NOVEMBER 1ST? >> NOVEMBER 1ST IS ON THAT LIST, IT WAS IN THE FALL.

>> STEVE WAS TALKING ABOUT IT STARTING IN FEBRUARY. >> OKAY. SO, HAVE YOU MET WITH

THE RITZ? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. NO. >> HAVE YOU MET WITH THE OMNI.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE MET WITH THOSE HOTELS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING STEVE WAS BUILDING

AND CULTIVATING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. >> GENERAL MANAGER OF THE RRIT.

>> YOU HAVEN'T MET WITH THE HAMPTON INN? >> WE COULD SEND YOU SAMPLES.

>> YOU SEE MY FRUSTRATION, YOU'RE DOING A MARKETING PROGRAM FOR A NEAR HALF MILLION DOLLAR CITY PROJECT. YOU KNEW MARKETING WAS ON THE AGENDA, OBVIOUSLY YEAR HERE AND HAVE A PRESENTATION. WHY WOULDN'T YOU BRING THE COLLATERAL SO WE COULD SEE THE EFFORT. WHAT I'M SEEING ARE SLIDES. I'M NOT SEEING ANY COLLATERAL, I DON'T SEE A ONE SHEET, OR A PAMPHLET. WHAT TYPES OF COLLATERAL THEY NEED OR WANT. AND YOU JUST SAID 40% OF BUSINESS COMES FROM OUT OF TOWN.

SO THIS IS MAJOR ALLIES IN THE BUSINESS. A DESTINATION. SO, LOOK AT THE LOGO AND TELL ME IF

YOU KNOW. THE DESTINATION AT THE LIGHTHOUSE DRIVING RANGE. >> I WOULD SAY. THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT A LOGO INDIVIDUALLY, YOU CAN MAKE THAT STATEMENT, BUT WHEN WE IF WE'RE DOING A TARGETED ADVERTISEMENT, WETHER OR NOT THAT'S THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA OR PRINT OR EMAIL, THAT IS IDENTIFYING THE LIGHTHOUSE AS A DESTINATION. IT'S GOING TO INCORPORATE.

>> THAT GETS LOST. LOOK, YOU HAVE TWO TO THREE SECONDS TO MAKE AN IMPRESSION. THAT'S BASIC ADVERTISING MARKETING. AND THE BASIC IMPRESSION YOU WANT TO MAKE IS TOPTRACER RANGE

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>> IT WAS OUR PLEASURE. FOR SURE. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS?

>> OKAY. SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN HOUR MEETING, THIS PRESENTATION TOOK 54 MINUTES. SO, SOMETHING'S GOT TO CHANGE. WE'RE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. I RECOMMEND APPROVAL, MINUS 7-4.

[7. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> I SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE

CONSENT AGENDA MINUS ITEM 7.4. ANY DISCUSSION? >> SEEING NONE.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER? >> YES, COMMISSIONER, MAYOR? YES.

>> AND THAT PASSED 5-0. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 7.4, SPECIAL EVENT SPONSORSHIP APPROVAL.

[7.4 SPECIAL EVENT SPONSORSHIP APPROVAL]

>> MOVE TO APPROVE THIS. SPECIAL EVENT SPONSORSHIP? >> THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE

SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT I'M ALL FOR THESE, I THINK THEY'RE GREAT PROGRAMS, I THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE DOING THIS BUT WHAT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT IF WE LOOK AT THE FISCAL IMPACT, IF APPROVED, $9,000 WILL BE WAIVED FOR THESE EVENTS WHICH IS APPROPRIATE. THE EVENT ORGANIZERS ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING PUBLIC SAFETY. MY ONLY POINT IS $9,000 IN COST DOESN'T GO AWAY. WHEN WE APPROVE THINGS LIKE THIS, WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THAT $9,000 IS COMING FROM SOMEWHERE. BECAUSE THE COST OH DID NOT GO AWAY. SO, THAT'S MY ONLY POINT.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> MAD AM CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER STURGE. YES,

[8.1 SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL TYLER TECHNOLOGIES]

HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS. >> ELECTRONIC PERMITTING THREW THE BILLING DEPARTMENT. THESE ARE ALL BILLING DEPARTMENT FUNDS THEY ARE NOT FROM THE GENERAL FUNDS, THEY ARE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FUNDS. THIS WILL COMPLETE THE TRANSITION TO ELECTRONIC PERMITTING WITH REGARD TO THE COVID CHALLENGES TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE TO RECALIBRATE ON SOME OF THESE THINGS AND TYLER TECHNOLOGIES IS THE. TO REITERATE THESE ARE NOT GENERAL FUNDS. THEY ARE FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. RESTRICTED FUNDS, THEY CAN ONLY

BE USED TO SUPPORT BUILDING DEPARTMENT ACTIVITIES. >> NOW, WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> GOOD EVENING, DENNIS MINSHEW. I ACTUALLY HAVE QUESTIONS MORE THAN COMMENTS,

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>> WE'RE ENHANCING THE SYSTEM WE ALREADY HAVE. >> SO INTERGIVE USES CRYSTAL REPORTS WHICH IS A WELL KNOWN REPORTING SYSTEM. AS THE CHAIR OF THE ECONOMIC VITALITY COUNCIL. I HAVE USED INTERGOV. ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES WE HAD IS PROBABLY IN THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS. WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO SECURE NAME, ADDRESS, TELEPHONE NUMBER, EMAIL FOR BUSINESSES.

AND IT'S THERE BUT WE CAN'T GET TO IT. SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE REPORTING PROCESS IS CURRENTLY UNABLED. AND NEITHER CAN THE STAFF APPROPRIATELY GET TO IT EITHER. JUST IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO PULL A REPORT. SO, WHAT MY QUESTION IS DOES IN THE GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE BUSINESS REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED TO ALLOW BOTH THE STAFF AND SOMEONE LIKE MAIN STREET TO BE ABLE TO PULL DATA MORE EFFECTIVELY OUT OF THE SYSTEM. BUSINESS

REQUIREMENTS INPUT. >> IF I MAY, I'LL CALL MR. BECKMAN FROM THE BUILDING

DEPARTMENT. >> STEVEN BECKMAN, BUILDING DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY. THE ANSWER IS YES. THAT'S GOING TO DO A LOT MORE TO HELP IN THAT WAY. THIS IS GOING TO DO A LOT MORE THAN THAT. IN 2015, THE CITY MADE A DECISION TO GO ELECTRONIC AND DO THE BIDS AND ALL THAT AND IT WAS BROUGHT IN, WE STARTED USING IT IN 2019, VERY LIMITED. LITTLE THINGS PRETTY MUCH IN AND OUT ONE DAY. COVID-19, YOU KNOW, AND THE PLAN WAS TO TRANSITION TO EVERYTHING 100% ELECTRONIC AND DO THAT AT A POINT WHERE THEY WORKED OUT THE BUGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

COVID-19 KIND OF MOVED THAT UP AND ON MARCH 23RD, WE HAD THE CAPABILITY HERE. WEDNESDAYS WE'RE JUMPING IN AND DOING IT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO HELP US BE ABLE TO SERVICE PEOPLE'S PERMIT NEEDS AND BE PAPERLESS. AND IT'S WORKED PRETTY WELL. BUT, SO NOW, WE'VE BEEN USING IT FOR EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS AND WE COULD SEE SOME OF THE IT'S SHORT COMINGS. SO WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IS IT'S GOING TO PUT FUNDS TOWARDS CREATING MORE REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHICH WE CAN'T DO. TYLER IS THE ONLY ONE THAT COULD DO IT WITH THE SOFTWARE. IT'S PROPRY TARE.

THEY GIVE US A QUOTE AND THEN WE GIVE THEM A PURCHASE ORDER. BASIC REPORTS ARE LIKE $2,400

EACH. >> THAT'S OUTRAGES TO HAVE A VENDOR THAT WOULD CHARGE YOU

$35,700 TO PULL A LIST OF ADDRESSES. IT'S OUTRAGEOUS. >> SO WE HAVE TO SAY THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO WITH REPORT AND THEN, THEY DESIGN AND CREATE THE REPORTS.

THAT'S A PART OF IT. AND I THINK IT'S ONLY ABOUT $24,000 WHICH IS CONSIDERABLE BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT REPORTS PEOPLE REQUEST FREQUENTLY THAT THIS WOULD

ENABLE US TO DO. >> WILL IT ENABLE YOU TO DO THEM AS STANDARD REPORTS SO YOU

DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM YOU LOG ON? >> I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEED THAT MMAIN STREET. AND ALSO YOR BUSINESS SUPPORT PEOPLE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PULL OUT APPROPRIATE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR MORE THAN JUST THE FIRST THOUSAND RECORDS WHICH IS HOW IT IS TODAY. AND BE ABLE TO SEARCH AND TO BE ABLE TO PULL DATA BY STREAM. TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY. I'M HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND HELP WRITE THE REQUIREMENTS, I DID THAT FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FIXING THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S HUGE, NOT JUST FOR SOMEONE LIKE MAIN STREET BUT

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ALSO FOR YOUR STAFF. >> THE TAX RECEIPTS. THE SYSTEM CURRENTLY CANNOT DO THINGS AUTOMATED WHEN WE GET TO THE CURRENT VERSION, WHICH WE'RE NOT ON YET, THE 2020 VERSION, HAS THAT IN IT. WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY NOW, BUT WE GET IT. THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET WHEN WE UPGRADE ANYWAY. HOWEVER, THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS IS TO SPEND THE TIME WITH TYLER TO SIT DOWN AND HELP US RECONFIGURE HOW WE DO THINGS. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE WERE PERMITTING IN PAPER, IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE THE PROCESS, WE HANDED OUT A FORM. WE CAN'T DO THIS ELECTRONICALLY LIKE THAT. THE SYSTEM HAS TO BE RECONFIGURED TO WORK IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE SUBMITTALS COME INTO THE SYSTEM AND THE SYSTEM DOES THINGS TO THE AUTOMATION AND WORK FLOW, AND THEN WE GET TO THE POINT WE CAN REVIEW AND ISSUE PERMITS. WE WANT TO OPTIMIZE THE WAY WE DO PERMITTING WITH TEMPT THINGS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A GENERAL PERMIT APPLICATION THAT DOES PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING. THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF THIS WILL DO IT WILL HELP MAKE THE SYSTEM MORE EFFICIENT FOR THOSE APPLYING FOR PERMITS.

>> INCLUDING THE RECEIPTS? >> YES. OUR GOAL IN DOING THIS IS THAT WE WILL SIT DOWN WITH ALL OF THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT WANT TO PULL INFORMATION ON INDIGO.

>> WITH MAIN STREET, I APPRECIATE WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY THIS AS WELL.

>> I'LL MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT TAKES MAINTENANCE AND WORK ON A REGULAR BASIS OF THE IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE

MONEY AND WE'RE DONE FOR GOOD. >> I UNDERSTAND HOW IT ALL WORKS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THANKS MAYOR. >> THIS WILL BENEFIT OUR

CITIZENS IN THE PROCESS? >> HOPEFULLY A GREAT DEAL. BECAUSE AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE LIMITATIONS IN THE PROCESS THAT FOR SOMEONE NEW TO THE JURISDICTION, CONTRACTORS WHO WANTED WORK IN FERANDINA, THEY MIGHT BE A LITTLE UNSURE AS WHAT THEY NEED HERE, WHEN WE GO THROUGH A RECONFIGURE, HOW WE DO SOME OF THESE PERMITS, WE'RE GOING TO CLARIFY IT A LOT. ON THE PERMIT APPLICATION IN THE SYSTEM ELECTRONICALLY, IT'S GOING TO SPELL OUT WHAT YOU MID FOR THE HOUSE. YOU WANT TO BUILD A POOL, IT'S GOING TO SPELL OUT WHAT YOU NEED FOR THE POOL. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ONE SIZE FITS ALL. AND YOU CAN'T PUT IT ALL IN THERE, OR YOU WILL HAVE ONE PERMIT DOCUMENT THAT'S 57 PAGES LONG OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WAS

CONFIGURED IN ONE WAY AND THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN. >> IT WILL STREAMLINE THE

SYSTEM AND BENEFIT OUR CITIZENS IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS. >> A GREAT DEAL.

>> A GREAT DEAL. >> SO I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? VICE MAYOR?

>> SEEING NO DISCUSSION... >> ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY IS IT DOES NEED IMPROVEMENT, I'VE USED IT A LITTLE BIT. IT'S BASIC AND JUST LIKE WHAT STEVE'S SAYING, IT'S FLAWED AND IT NEEDS

IMPROVEMENT SO I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. >> YES

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER STURGE?

>> YES. >> MAYOR LEDNOVICH? >> YES.

[8.2 AWARD OF RFP #202101CONSTANGY, BROOKS, SMITH & PROPHETE, LLP]

>> THAT MOTION PASSED. AWARD OF RFP 2021 -- 01. >> EVERY FEW YEARS THE CITY GOES THROUGH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL PROCESS TO HIRE ON ARIZONA NEEDED BASIS, EXPERT LABOR AND EMPLOYMENT COUNCIL FOR ANY OF OUR LABOR ISSUES. AND SO WE DID THAT, AND I PURPOSEFULLY KEEP MYSELF OUT OF THE COMMITTEE. THE HR DIRECTOR AND THE PURCHASING AGENT WAS THE SEE VAL WEIGHS COMMITTEE AND THEY CHOSE AGAIN BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN WITH US THE LAST THREE YEARS, OUT OF JACKSONVILLE. WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH ATTORNEYS THERE AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO

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IF YOU APPROVE THIS TONIGHT. >> THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE DID NOT INVOLVE MS. WEEKS, BUT MR.

COIL FROM THE AIRPORT. JUST. COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?

>> SEEING NONE. MADAM CLERK, CALL THE VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> YES. >> VICE MAYER KREGER? >> YES.

[8.3 COMMISSION RULES OF PROCEDURE]

>> MAYOR LEDNOVICH? >> YES. >> ITEM 8.3, COMMISSION RULES

OF PROCEDURE. >> AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY YOUR DOCUMENT I WANTED TO NOTE ONE CHANGE THAT I THINK YOU'LL APPROVE IS COMMISSIONER ROSS PROPOSED LANGUAGE. PUBLIC COMMENT BE ALLOWED AT WORK SHOPS AND WORK SESSION TYPES OF MEETINGS AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU JUST LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS AND NOT ALLOW THAT OTHERWISE THE PUBLIC WILL SPEAK

AT OUR WORKSHOP DISCUSSION MEETINGS AS 5 BEFORE COMMISSION. >> ACTUALLY, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN AS, IT SAYS REFRAIN FROM. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO WRITE IT IN THAT THERE'LL BE NO DISCUSSION AT WORK SHOPS. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS WRITTEN PREVIOUSLY.

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT WRITTEN IN FRONT OF ME. >> IT SAYS CITY COMMISSION MEBERS SHALL REFRAIN FROM CALLING ON MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK. THE REASON I PUT THIS IN THERE BECAUSE WE SAID WE WEREN'T GOING TO DO IT AND WE STILL DID IT. JUST SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, THAT'S FINE. DON'T PUT IT IN THERE, SAY

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT AND THEN DO IT EVERY TIME. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> THANK YOU. I WAS READING THAT TOO, THE LANGUAGE WOULD WORK AS STATED IF WE DON'T TOUCH THAT ONE. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO REFRAIN FROM IT. IF WE INTEND TO HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT WE COULD SIMPLY REFRAIN. BUT IF WE NEEDED TO CALL SOMEONE. WE COULD IN FACT THEN CALL SOMEONE.

BUT, I WOULD, THERE'S THAT WAS MY ONE ISSUE WHEN I READ THROUGH THIS?

>> VICE MAYOR? >> WE DO IT ALL THE TIME. IF WE'RE GOING TO REFRAIN, LET'S

REFRAIN. >> OKAY. I HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THIS. ONE WAS NOT

LIMITING THE DISCUSSION. >> WHICH SECTION? >> UNDER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. YOU CAN CALL THE VOTE. AND FROM WHAT YOU READ ON ROBERT'S RULES, IF A COMMISSIONER SAYS CALL THE VOTE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY IS A MOTION ON CALL THE VOTE, AND THAT MOTION MUST PASS BY 2/3RDS. THAT'S WHAT I READ TODAY. SO, HOW DOES CALL THE VOTE APPLY TO LIMITING

OR NOT LIMITING? >> I'M MORE THAN HAPPY, I WAS JUST AGAIN DOING THAT TO PROTECT

THE MINORITY. >> WHICH SECTION ARE WE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW?

>> I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WHEN I READ THROUGH IT IT TAKEN OUT THE FILIBUSTER, AND

QUOTE UNQUOTE DISCUSSION. >> WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES FROM THE LANGUAGE FROM THE LAST

MEETING TO THIS MEETING. >> OKAY. SO, WHILE COMMISSIONER ROSS LOOKS FOR

THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> IT'S PROBABLY ON YOUR LAST

PAGE OF COMMENTS WHERE YOU LIST A NUMBER OF ITEMS. >> OH, YES. IT'S SECTION

TWELVE >> THAT WAS IN THE RULES. COMMISSIONER ROSS IS TRYING TO FIND IT AND PUT HIS EYES ON LANGUAGE. IT'S IN THE CURRENT APPROVED RULES AS SECTION 12

WHICH WOULD COME BEFORE YOUR LIST OF ITEMS TO ACT. >> SO STRIKING THE CALL TO

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QUESTION? >> YES. MR. MAYOR. THE AMENDMENT WOULD STRIKE SECTION 12 COMPLETELY AND MAKE IT RESERVED. AND SECTION 12 IS WHAT HAS OUR PREVIOUS QUESTION OR CALL THE QUESTION WHICH IS IN FACT WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER. IF WE COULD TAKE OUT THE SECTION 12 AMENDMENT. I'LL FORMAT THIS IN THE WORDS OF A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE THESE CHANGES WINOT

INCLUDING THE CHANGES TO BOTH SECTION 12 AND TO SECTION 1. >> I SECOND THAT.

>> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? >> MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT, OKAY,

COMMISSIONER YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON. >> MY ONLY COMMENT WAS AT THE REORGANIZATION MEETING I WAS ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE MAYOR SPEAKING LAST. AND IF YOU RECALL, I SAID I WOULD HONOR THE TRADITION OF THE MAYOR SPEAKING LAST. SO, WITH THAT AGREEMENT THAT MEANS WHEN THE MAYOR SPEAKS LAST. THAT'S IT. AT OUR LAST MEETING, I SPOKE LAST. AND A LIGHT CAME ON. AND I ACQUIESCED IN HONOR OF THE LIGHT. UNDER RULES OF PROCEDURE, I'M JUST MAKING IT CLEAR, THAT GOING FORWARD, I WILL NOT DO THAT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO HAVE A

CONSENSUS OF IT. >> I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. WHERE ARE YOU READING THAT THAT

SAYS THAT? >> I'M NOT READING IT ANYWHERE, I'M DISCUSSING THE REORGANIZATION MEETING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RULES AND PROCEDURE, AND WE HAVE AN INFORMAL RULE THAT WE AGREED UPON THAT THE MAYOR WOULD SPEAK LAST. IT'S NOT WRITTEN DOWN

ANYWHERE. ALL FIVE OF US AGREED TO IT. >> I AGREED TO THAT MEANING SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN. YOU GET TO GO LAST, BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK ON WHAT YOU SAID, THEY COULD SAY SOMETHING. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD GO LAST AND NOT

BE UNOPPOSED. THAT'S JUST MY FEELING. >> THEN WHAT'S THE POINT OF THE

MAYOR GOING LAST. >> BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT'S DONE ON ROBERT'S RULES. THAT'S

ALL. >> I AGREE, I THINK THAT YOU MAY SAY SOMETHING LAST, THAT YOU

FEEL COMPELLED TO RESPOND TO. AND THAT SHOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. >> COMMISSIONER. WHAT IF IN AN INPERFECT WORLD THAT WAS AN INFLAMMATORY COMMENT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT.

>> I WILL DROP THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> NO. MADAM CLERK, COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> SECOND 9, ORDNANCE. 9.1.

[9.1 PROHIBITION OF EBIKES]

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BEACHES. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION IN

>> COMMISSIONER BEAN. >> I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP A QUICK POINT THAT SOME ELECTRIC BICYCLES ARE IMPORTANT FOR SOME OF OUR OLDER FOLKS OF OUR COMMUNITY OF 65 AND OLDER. IT'S NOT JUST YOUNG KIDS, IT IS SOME OF OUR OLDER COMMUNITY USES THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE UNABLE TO PEDDLE BIKES MAYBE THROUGH THE GREENWAY. I FEEL LIKE THIS RESTRICTION MAY RESTRICT THEIR ABILITY TO RIDE BIKES AND I JUST WANT TO DOES PEDDLE ASSIST? WE'RE INCLUDING PEDDLE ASSIST IN

THI THIS. ONE WITH NO POWER AT ALL? >> CORRECT. YES.

>> AND THE BEACH. >> AND THE BEACH AS WELL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MY OPPOSITION TO THIS ORDNANCE IS SUCH THAT I BELIEVE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE, WE ALREADY PROHIBIT GAS POWERED VEHICLES AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT ELECTRIC DIRT BIKES. SOMETHING THAT HAS PEDDLE ASSIST WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO SWITCH IT ON AND OFF AND THAT KIND OF BIKE, I BELIEVE, IS ACCEPTABLE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE, DRAW THE LINE A LITTLE LESS STRICT JUST TO LOOKOUT FOR

SOME OF OUR OLDER RESIDENTS WHO MAY USE THOSE TO TRAVEL. >> VICE MAYOR.

>> I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE DID GET REQUESTS FROM THE TRAILS. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS I THINK ARE WORTH MENTIONING. THERE'S ALSO GAS POWERED BICYCLES. OTHER THAN

ELECTRIC BICYCLES, ARE THOSE INCLUDED? >> NO, THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN

THE STATE LAW. >> IT'S NOT INCLUDED, IF WE'RE GOING TO BAN ELECTRIC BICYCLES, WE SHOULD BAN GAS. I'D LIKE TO CAR THAT. AND THE COUNTY HAS AN ORDNANCE THAT BANS THEM ON THE TRAILS NOW, THE ELECTRIC BICYCLES, AND I THINK THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. BIKE ETIQUETTE IS NOT WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE EVEN THOUGH IT'S POSTED. SO THAT'S THE PRIMARY THING ON THE GREENWAY. I SELDOM SEE. I JUST DON'T SEE A LOT OF OLD PEOPLE OUT THERE. I THINK ENVIRONMENTALLY AND SAFETY WISE, IT'S WORTH DOING. THE BEACHES, IT'S FINE IF WE HAVE THEM ON THE BEACH. MY ORIGINAL THING WAS ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY. AND IF THEY WANT TO INCLUDE THE SAFETY. THE QUESTION IS DO WE WANT TO INCLUDE MOTORIZED BICYCLES. SO HOW DO WE CHANGE IT TO INCLUDE THAT? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND?

>> AMEND IT. >> JUST AMEND IT TO INCLUDE MOTORIZED BICYCLES.

>> AMENDED. >> ARE GAS POWERED BIKES, CONSIDERED BICYCLES.

>> NO. I WOULD JUST SAY GAS POWERED BIKES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> AREN'T THEY MOTOR SCOOTERS? >> IT COULD BE. I'M NOT SURE, THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, 2020 LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE STATE LEGISLATURE, PASSED A BILL, E-BIKES WERE DEFINED AS

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BICYCLES, BUT GAS POWERED ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT. >> IT JUST MAKES SENSE.

>> IT MAKES SENSE. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER BEAN, VICE MAYOR,

YOU'RE LIGHT'S STILL ON. >> I'VE GOT THROUGH VERY BRIEF POINTS. I COMPLETELY AGREE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IT'S MORE EGREGIOUS, I'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT, AND THE KIND OF WORSE CASE SCENARIO HERE, IMAGINE, I KNOW SEVERAL OF THESE, YOU MAY NOT SEE OLDER PEOPLE, I KNOW SEVERAL OLDER FOLKS WHO DO USE PEDDLE ASSISTED BIKES. JUST IMAGINE, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WILL USE THESE AS WELL. THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS ARE WE REALLY GOING TO PULL SOMEONE OVER WHO IS USING A BIKE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PHYSICALLY USE A BICYCLE. WE'RE GOING TO PULL THEM OVER AND JUST DON'T SEE THAT AS AN T. I- APPROPRIATE RESPONSE. I BELIEVE

THIS ISN'T A PROBLEM THAT CAN BE SOLVED THIS WAY. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER,

COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> IS THERE ANYWAY TO PRACTICALLY TEASE OUT PEDDLE

ASSIST VERSUS MOTOR BIKES? >> YES. PART OF THAT 2020 LAW GAVE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS THE ABILITY TO REGULATE WHERE THAT'S THINGS ARE. THERE'S THREE CLASSES OF E-BIKES. ONE OF THEM I THINK CLASS THREE IS THROTTLE ONLY. TWO, IF THAT'S NOT 3 IT'S TWO. IT IS THROTTLE ONLY.

THERE'S NO PEDDLING REQUIRED. IT'S A THROTTLE BIKE. THE OTHER ARE PEDDLE ASSIST. ONE GOES UP TO 20 MILES PER HOUR, AND THE OTHER GOES UP TO 28 MILES PER HOUR. IT IS ABSOLUTELY OKAY.

ALTHOUGH HARDER TO ENFORCE TO LIMIT SPEED LIMITS. >> ALL RIGHT. I HAVE

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I AGREE WITH YOU. BUT MY

POINT WAS, CAN YOU TALK TO THIS? >> I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THESE BICYCLES. CAN YOU TALK?

CAN I ASK MR. SPENO. PLEASE FILL OUT A PUBLIC SPEAKING FORM. >> COMMISSIONERS, MISS BACH, I LIVE AT 317000 FITS STREET. COMMISSIONER BEAN HAS WALKED INTO ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT PUBLIC POLICY ISSUES I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK ON IN MANY YEARS AND I HAVE 35 YEAR'S EXPERIENCE HELPING SHAPE PUBLIC POLICY BECAUSE AS COUNCIL HAS POINTED OUT, THERE'S VERY LITTLE

DISTINCTION. WHICH IS PEDDLE ASSIST UP TO>> .SO, OKAY, AS I , BEEN DOING PUBLIC POLICY FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND ALMOST ALWAYS WE CAN FIND A WAY TO RESOLVE THE CONFLICTS.

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>> THE RECOMMENDTION IS OUTLAW ALL THREE CLASSES ON THE GREENWAY AND THE BEACH AT THIS TIME. I'M SURE YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THIS AGAIN.

IT'S NOT GOING AWAY BECAUSE GRANDMA'S HE-BIKE HAS BEEN THROWN IN BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS DAVID'S GIGANTIC MACHINE. SO MAKE THIS MOVE NOW.

I SUGGESTED TO COUNSEL BEFORE SUNSET THIS THING SO YOU ARE FORCED TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THREW US INTO THIS SUIT WITHOUT DOING A GOOD JOB. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO HOW YOU FIX IT BECAUSE WE CAN BUT WE'VE GOT THESE FLEE BIKES IN BUN CLASS AND THE COMMISSIONER FOR

PROTECTING THE BEACH AND GREENWAY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO

SAY. >> REALLY? >> OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? >> SEEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU CALL THE VOTE.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> YES. >> TEMPERATURER STURGESS.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BEEN. >> NO.

>> . >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> NO.

>> THAT MOTION PASSES 3-2. >> ITEM 9.2.

[9.2 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT AFFECTED PARTIES AND APPEALS OF HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL DECISIONS]

>> ORDINANCE 2021-03.

COMMISSIONER ROSS, YOUR LIGHT IS ON. >> I PROPOSE THIS AND THIS HAS GOT TO DO WITH [INAUDIBLE] ARGUMENT. WE ALL PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG AND FOR LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND THERE'S EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW THAT IS NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE BUT A FAIRNESS ISSUE AND THIS CAME FROM A CASE IN THE HDC WHERE THE APPLICANT CAME FORWARD AND IT WAS APPROVED AND THE NEIGHBORS WANTED TO APPEAL IT AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL SO BASICALLY WHAT I WOULD -- WHAT THIS IS PROPOSING IS IT YOU GIVE BOTH SIDES THE RIGHT TO APPEAL OR GIVE NO SIDE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL AND THEY GO TO THE CIRCUIT COURT AND IT'S JUST A FAIRNESS ARGUMENT AND IT'S NOT -- THERE'S ARGUMENTS THAT THIS IS GOING TO KONSTERNAITION AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO APPEAL, YOU SHOULD ALLOWING THE NEIGHBORS DO.

IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LET BOTH, THAT'S FINE. GO TO THE CIRCUIT COURT.

THAT'S WHY I PROPOSE IT. >> I SEE LIGHTS ON AND ONE OF THE BEAUTY OF THE PROCEDURE RULE WAS I READ ROBBERY BETTER'S RULE. BEFORE DISCUSSION CAN TAKE PLACE

THERE FIRST NEEDS TO BE A MOTION. >> APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION AND THE SECOND.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS UNFILL YOU HAVE A MOTION THERE'S NOTHING TO DISCUSS -- UNTIL YOU HAVE A MOTION THERE'S NOTHING TO DISCUSS. SO THIS THE FUTURE LET'S BE COGNIZANT OF THAT. WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND LET ME TRY TO REMEMBER THE ORDER OF THE LIGHTS. IF I GET IT WRONG, PLEASE DON'T BE ANGRY WITH ME.

I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER BEAN. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY WHAT THIS WOULD. CURRENTLY AN APPLICANT CAN

APPEAL A DECISION. >> CAN I ANSWER? >> LET ME FINISH.

>> YES. >> BUT WHAT THIS WOULD DO IF APPROVED IS IT WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE ELSE TO APPEAL THE DECISION -- IF SOMEONE GETS THEIR THING APPROVED IN THE HDC

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>> WHY SHOULD WE. >> WAIT, PLEASE. >> THE SECOND LIGHT WAS CREAGER.

>> I BELIEVE A AN AFFECTED PARTY SHOULD APPEAL. >> OKAY.

>> THE NEXT LIGHT. COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> ANYTHING ELSE -- WE HAVE THIS ONE INSTANCE WHERE ONLY ONE SIDE CAN APPEAL AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW ONE PERSON TO APPEAL THEN BOTH SHOULD BE ABLE TO APPEAL. IT'S A FAIRNESS ARGUMENT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO OPEN THE FLOODGATES. I THINK THERE WAS TWO CASES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS, IF YOU ARE PASSIONATE YOU WANT TO BE IN THERE THEY HAVE TO BE AT THE HEARINGS AND OTHER THINGS, THAT'S FINE TOO.

IT'S NOT JUST ANYBODY OFF THE STREET CAN APPEAL. THE DEFINITION IS RIGHT HERE, WITH AN GRIEVING PARTY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME, SO TO SPEAK.

IT'S JUST A FAIRNESS ISSUE. THAT'S ALL THIS IS AND I'M JUST AS HAPPY THERE'S NO APPEALS AND GOES STRAIGHT TO THE CIRCUIT COURT BUT GIVE BOTH SIDES THE SAME OPPORTUNITY.

THAT'S ALL. >> COMMISSIONER STURGIS? >> ONE SIDE I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND HAD TO PAY FOR THAT APPLICATION AND HAD TO SUBMIT AND THEY ARE BRINGING IT TO THE CITY TO APPROVE THIS ADJUSTMENT OR ALTERATION TO THE HOUSE.

THE NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER HAND, NEIGHBORS ARGUE THE TIME. THAT'S WHY WE GET PERMITS AND GO THROUGH INSURANCE AND GONE THROUGH A BILLING DEPARTMENT. THOUGH ARGUE THE TIME.

I THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA. IF THEY WANT APPEAL IT OR WHAT IS APPROVED, TAKE IT TO COURT.

I THINK THAT'S THE SIMPLEST ANSWER. >> ARE YOU SAYING BOTH SIDES

TAKE IT TO COURT? >> WHOEVER HAS A PROBLEM. >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BOTH SIDES, IF THERE'S NO APPEAL FROM THE CITY COMMISSIONER, IT GOES TO COURT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. >> I THINK THE APPLICANT CAN APPEAL IT. THEY PAY FOR IT. THE NEIGHBOR CAN SHOW UHM AND GIVE THEIR SIDES TO THE HDC WHEN OVER IT HAPPENS BUT THEY GET NOTIFIED.

THEY ALL GET NOTIFIED IF ANYTHING IS GOING ON. THAT'S THERE OPPORTUNITY TO

APPEAL IT. >> WHY DOES THE APPLICANT GET TO APPEAL?

>> BECAUSE IT'S THEIR APPLICATION. THEY'RE THE ONE DOING THE JOBS

AND THE IMPROVEMENTS. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? HEARING NOW, MADAM CLERK WOULD

YOU CALL THE VOTE. >> CREEING GER. >> YES.

>> ROSS. >> YES. >> STURGESS.

>> NO. >> BEAN? >> NO.

>> MAYOR. >> YES. >> THAT MOTION PASSES 32-2.

[10. ORDINANCE THIRD READING]

>> SECTION TEN. >> I'VE GOT GOOD NEWS. I'M NOT READING THE TITLE, OKAY.

THE STATUTE CALLS FOR A TITLE OF AN ORDER MEMBERS TO BE READ TWICE AND AT LEAST ONE PICK LICK HEARING TO BE HELD. I READ THIS THING THREE TEAMS AND I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WE'RE DOING. IT'S ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT HAD NOT BEEN ADVERTISED IN THE

PROPER FORMAT. >> IT'S THE FIND READING. TO UPDATE YOU, WE ARE WORKING ON A SEPARATELY AGREEMENT WITH ATKINS TO HANDLE THE MAIL BALLOT ACTION.

IT WILL BE A AGREEMENT JUST FOR THE MAIL BALLOT ELECTION AND THE SUPERVISOR AND THE CITY CLERK AND THE STATE HAS TENTATIVELY BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WE'LL GET THIS FINALIZED, THE ELECTION IS APRIL 13. BALLOTS WILL GO OUT TO THE RESIDENTS OVERSEAS ON MARCH 22 AND THEY'LL GO OUT IN THE MAIL ON MARCH 24 FOR THE LOCAL RESIDENTS.

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BECAUSE OF HOW THE MAIL BALLOT SPECIAL ELECTION IS DEALT WITH UNDER THE STATE LAW, UNDER THE STATE ELECTION CODE THE CITY COMMISSION WON'T ACT AS THE CANVASSING BOARD.

THE -- WE'LL BE WATCHING FROM HOME AS THE RESULTS COME IN ON OUR CHARTER AMENDMENTS.

>> A MOTION? >> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER BEEN? >> I WON'T SAY MORE THAN ONE SENTENCE.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE VOTING ON ALL OF THEM. IT'S NOT GOING TO TO HAPPEN.

I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MADAM CLEAR, WOULD

YOU CALL THE VOTE. >> ROSS. >> YES.

>> CREEK GER. >> YES. >> SURE GIST.

>> NO. >> COMMISSIONER BEEN? >> NO.

>> MAYOR. >> YES. >> THAT MOTION PASSES 3-2.

ITEM 12 CITY MANAGER REPORT. >> 11.1. >> LET ME SEE WHERE THAT IS

[11. BOARD APPOINTMENTS]

HIDING. >> APPOINTMENT, 11.1, AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION APPOINTMENT.

>> TO APPROVE FRANK MAYOR. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECONDS FOR THE APPOINTMENT.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU CALL THE VOTE, PLEASE.

>> I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR. >> THAT'S OKAY.

>> THAT'S MY FAULT. >> I MOVE TO HAVE A SECOND. >> BEEN SECOND BY THE VICE

MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> BEEN? >> YES. >> CREAGER.

>> YES. >> STURGESS. >> YES.

>> ROSS. >> YES. >> MAYOR.

[12. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

>> YES. >> THE MOTION PASSES 5-0. NOW ON TO ITEM 12.

CITY MANAGER REPORTS. CITY MANAGER? >> THANK YOU.

FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP WITH STURGESS AND BEEN THAT HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THE OTHER THREE OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS, WITH CREAGER. ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 20TH, WE'LL ALL MEET TO DISCUSS COMMUNITY VISIONING, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CODE EFFORTS. THE 22ND, MS. BACH AND I ARE INVOLVED WITH THE MEDIATION FOR THE OSSTIN PROPERTY ON NORTH FRONT STREET. THE 27TH CITY COMMISSION GOAL SETTING. DUE TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS REGARDING COVID I WILL HAVE HALF OF THE STAFF THERE IN THE MORNING PERHAPS STARTING WITH THE SIDE.

MR. GLISN AND MR. GEORGE, MR. DEZDALAI AND A FEW OTHER ONES AND THE ADMIN STAFF AND WE CAN AVOID A LUNCH WITH 50 OR SO OF US UNMASKING AND EATING AT THE SAME TIME.

HALF STAFF WILL BE THE MORNING AND HALF IN THE AFTERNOON. PLEASE MARK ON YOUR CALENDAR FEBRUARY 3, THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY, THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH BEACH PLAYING A KEY ROLE IN RESPONSE. THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY IS A BIG THING.

I TOOK OUT AN AD IN THE PROGRAM. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S A FULL PAGE, WHATEVER.

WE PUT A MESSAGE FROM THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH. WITH REGARD TO THE MARINA, THE FUEL LINES CONTRACTOR IS ON SITE SO THEY'RE DOING SOME TRAINING ON HOW TO INSTALL THE FUEL BUT THEY'RE ON SITE AND WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR WEEKS OF HAVING FUEL UP AND RUNNING. THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD MEETING IS MONDAY.

THERE ARE SEVERAL VACANCIES ON THE BOARD. ALL OF THE NOBODIES HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN BEING REAPPOINTED BUT THEIR TERMS HAVE EXPIRED.

YOU ARE AWARE OF ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BE CONSIDERED, ON THE MARINE ADVISORY BOARD, MR. MCCARTHY HAS RESIGNED AND HE'S MOVED OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS.

HE'S STILL IN THE AREA BUT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. HE SUBMITTEDS IS LETTER OF RESIGNATION. LAURIE AND COST AND MILLS, THEIR TERMS HAVE EXPIRED.

ALL THREE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN REAPPOINTMENT BUT THEIRS TERMS ARE UP FOR WE'RE LOOKING FOR AT LEAST ONE TO FILL THE SEAT OF MCCARTHY AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER INTERESTED RESIDENTS,

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IT'S DUE TO UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES. WHETHER THAT'S FINANCIAL OR COVID, UNFORTUNATELY THAT EVENT IS CANCELED FOR THE END OF JANUARY.

FINALLY RAILROAD AGREEMENT, AFTER ABOUT AT LEAST FIVE YEARS ON MY PART OF TRYING TO PUT HUMANITY DUMPTY TOGETHER, THEY HAVE SIGNED THE THE ENGINEER AGREEMENT THAT WE APPROVED BACK IN OCTOBER THAT SAYS ONCE WE DEVELOP OUR PLAN FOR RAIL CROSSINGS, THE RAILROAD ENGINEERS WILL REVIEW THAT. BUT THEY SIGNED IT AND IT'S A NEW ERA OF WORKING TOGETHER.

RELATED TO THE RAILROAD, THEY HAVE AGREED TO INSTALL AT THEIR COST NEW REFLECTIVE MARKERS FROM CENTER STREET WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOTORIOUS FOR TURNING TOO SOON AND ON THE TRACKS.

SO THEY WILL INSTALL NEW REFLECTERS AT THEIR COST AND THAT'S AT THE RAILROAD COSTS.

THEY'RE TEMPORARY BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE WATERFRONT, REDEVELOPING THE CENTER.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CITY

MANAGER? >> I HAVE ONE QUICKLY. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING. THE FEMA DECISION ON OUR APPEAL WHICH WAS DUE LAST WEEK.

>> BY MY COUNT THE 90 DAYS SHOULD HAVE BEEN UP JANUARY 13TH SOMETIMES LAST WEEK AND I PROVIDED I THINK, IN MY FRIDAY NOTES, TWO WEEKS AGO THERE WAS A NOTE FROM THE STATE SAYING THEY REACHED OUT AND FEMA SAID THEY WERE STILL REVIEWING IT AND IN MY NOTES LAST FRIDAY THE CONGRESSMAN STAFF REACHED OUT TO THEM AND THEY BASICALLY GOT THE SAME RESPONSE, THAT IT'S STILL UNDER REVIEW. THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF STORMS SOPHIE MARIE ANYONE 4, ENCOMPASSING ALL OF THE SOUTHEAST IS STILL REVIEWING IT, SO WE'RE STILL IN WAIT MODE.

>> NO LIMITATION ON HOW LONG THEY CAN TAKE? >> ACCORDING TO THE CONVERSATIONS I HAVE HAD WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS IF FEMA HAS NOT RENDERED A DECISION IN 183 DAYS, WHICH IS THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, THE CITY

WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO FILE A REQUEST FOR ARBITRATION. >> THANK YOU.

>> OTHERWISE WE WAIT. >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

[13. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS]

ITEM 13, CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS. >> I HAVE TWO THINGS. FIRST EARLIER IN THE EVENING WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AND THE SECTION NUMBERS I NOTICED THAT -- SO EVERYBODY KNOWS I GOT THIS, ECONOMIER BEAN WHEN HE MADE THE MOTION ABOUT CHANGING THE TWO SECTIONS REFERRED TO DO WHICH IS FINE. THE SECTION NUMBERS AS THEY ARE ASSIGNED IN THE RESOLUTION SO I FOLLOWED THAT. I HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.

EITHER WAY WORKS, WHETHER IT'S THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION OR THE SECTION NUMBERS.

THE OTHER IS THE CITY MANAGER AND I PARTICIPATED WITH JACOBS IN A MEDIATION WITH THE DESIGN IN THE SUBDIVISION. THE CITY FILED SUIT IN 2014 SO IT'S BEEN GOING ON A LONG TIME.

WE CAME UP WITH A TENTATIVE AGREEMENT THAT WE'LL PRESENT TO YOU AT THE FEBRUARY 2 MEETING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK. >> WOULD YOU TALK BRIEFLY -- DO ANY OTHER HAVE A QUESTION? WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

WE WERE AT A CORD ENFORCEMENT MEETING AND THE ENTERTAINMENT AT THE BOAST HOUSE, WE WERE SITTING IN THE BACK AND THE MUSIC WAS SO LOUD WE COULD NOT CONCENTRATE ON WHAT WAS BEING SAID.

WE NOTIFIED THE POLICE AND THEY WERE ISSUED A CITATION. IF YOU COULD UPDATE US ON THE

NOISE ORDER MEANT AND THAT SITUATION. >> YES.

IN THAT PARTICULAR EVENING THAT WAS THE SECOND CITATION ISSUED TO THE BOAT HOUSE.

THE FIRST, ISSUED A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE THAT, WAS APPEALED AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HEAR THAT CASE I WANT TO SAY THIS WEEK BUT IT'S BEEN CONTINUED TO FEBRUARY 2. THE HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 2 AND IN THE MEANTIME

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SHE SAYS WE'LL MEET TOGETHER AND WORK THIS AMICABLY. AND THE -- WE DON'T GET COSTS BACK FROM THE APPELLANT THAT APPEALS IT. WE'RE CONSIDERING BRINGING SOME CHANGES FOR THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. I'M WAITING ON A MEETING WITH THEIR ATTORNEY AND OTHER THAN THAT WE'LL BE GOING TO A HEARING ON FEBRUARY 2.

JUST IN CASE YOU DO. YOU HEAR SOME COMMENTS OR GET EMAILS WHICH PERSONALLY I DON'T THINK IS APPROPRIATE IF THAT COMES FROM THE BOAT HOUSE OR THEIR ATTORNEYS TO YOU.

THEY SHOULD BE DEALING WITH ME AT THIS POINT BUT IF YOU GOT ANYTHING OR OTHER FOLKS IN TOWN ARE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THE NOISE ORDER NEGLIGENT IS NOT CONSTITUTIONAL THEIR ATTORNEY HAS MADE COMMENTS LIKE THAT IN EMAILS TO YOU. I ASSURE YOU WHEN WE WROTE THIS IN 2009 THAT WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON WHAT WAS A CONSTITUTIONAL WAY TO MEASURE SOUND. WE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK WITH YOU, MAYOR, THE DECIBEL METERS, THEY ARE NOT UPHOLD, LIKE BREATHALYZERS. WE USE THE -- AND WE DRAFT OUR ORDINANCE FROM THE CITY OF SARASOTA AS A TEMPLATE. SINCE THEN I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING ELSE REGARDING NOISE ORDER NEGLIGENT. THE PUBLIC IS WATCHING AND MRS. JAMISON, BUT I MONEY TO TALK ABOUT THAT SO TO BE CONTINUED AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

I'LL UPDATE YOU AT THE FEBRUARY 2 COMMISSION MEETING. >> THANK YOU.

[14. CITY CLERK REPORTS]

>> ITEM 14, CITY CLERK REPORT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. MR. HART MENTIONED THE MARINE ADVISORY BOARD HAS ONE OPENING AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR APPROVING THE THIRD READING, POST CHARTER AMENDMENTS AND ALSO FOR APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE RESOLUTION FOR AGREEMENT WITH THE NASSAU COUNTY OF -- AND THOSE ARE THE LAST TWO BIG PIECES OF WHAT YOUR WORK REPRESENTS IN THIS PROCESS AND NOW MY WORK REALLY BEGINS IN THE PROCESS.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND YOUR SUPPORT AND LEADER SHINILY IN

[15. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

THAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

MAYOR, COMMISSIONER KOFVINS ITEM 15. LAST WEEK WE STARTED WITH

COMMISSIONER ROSS AND THIS TERM IT'S VICE PRESIDENT MAYOR. >> YOU CAN START WITH.

>> REALLY? >> KEEP GOING. >> WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE FARM DAY COMING UP AND EVERY MONTH THERE'S A FOOD GIVEN AWAY AND WE ALMOST HAD MORE FOOD THAN PEOPLE. IT'S POPULAR. THE ONLY OTHER THING, I WAS AT A MEETING AND MR. JACK NEELANDZ OFFERED TO DEED -- WANTED TO KNOW IF WE WERE INTERESTED IN ACCEPTING THE CRANE ISLAND 5.5-ACRE DEED TO THE FEED. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH IT AND -- TO THE CITY MANAGER TO LOOK INTO IT. THE LATEST I HEARD WAS HE WOULD EVEN MAINTAIN MAINTENANCE INDEFINITELY SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO AND THERE'S SOME ISSUES THERE. THE COUNTY WILL DO SOME STUDIES WHICH MIGHT BE VALUABLE.

I'M -- THE CITY MANAGER. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. >> OKAY.

COMMISSIONER BEAN? >> THANK YOU. WE HAD A GREAT MLK PARADE ON MONDAY AND IT WAS A GREAT TURN-OUT AND VERY SAFELY SOCIAL DISTANCING, AND I'M THANKFUL TO

THE COMMUNITY. AND WITH THAT I'M STILL HAPPY T. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER STURGESS. >> I'M GLAD THIS MEETING, WE MIGHT GET DONE BEFORE 10:00.

I JUST HOPE THE MEETINGS CAN GET SHORTER, MORE COMPACT AND ACKNOWLEDGE JILL WITH RUNNING

THE CITY'S BUSINESS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> I'VE BEEN ON 10:00 SO -- [INAUDIBLE]. >> 9:25.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. >> LET ME SEE IF I CAN DRAG --

[LAUGHTER]. >> I TOO WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THE MLK KING PARADE.

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IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT BUT IT WAS GOOD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE IT AND LOTS OF GOOD PARTICIPATION. SO HARMED WARMING TO SEE THAT. WE'RE WEEKS AWAY FROM BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND THIS YEAR'S THEME IS THE BLACK FAMILY SO REPRESENTATION, IDENTITY AND DIVERSITY AND I ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO CELEBRATE THE AFRICAN-AMERICANS THROUGH THE HISTORY. LET'S BE PREPARED FOR THAT. 35 YEARS OF SERVICE FOR CAPTAIN DAVID BISHOP WITH THE FERNANDINA BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT. HE HAS WORKED AT ALMOST EVERY DEPARTMENT THERE AND IS CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO THE OPERATIONS WHERE HE MANAGES PATROL AND THE BEACH. AND THE STREET DIRECTOR LESTER, 35 YEARS, AND REX ILLUSTRATES OR AMPLIFIES THE POINT OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO A CITY SO HE OVERSAW THE REPAVING OF STREETS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND HE WAS OUT THERE ANSWERING MY NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS AND SO KUDOS TO REX. THEN I WOULD LIKE TO END THIS MEETING WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE SACRIFICE OF THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL POLICE, OFFICERS BRIAN SITNIK AND HOWARD LEEFVING WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE RIOTING, SO WE BOW OUR HEADS AND TAKE

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