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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> WELCOME TO THE JANUARY 5, 2021, 6:00 P.M. MEETING.

COVID PROTOCOL DICTATES THAT WE HAVE NO STANDING IN THE ROOM.

THE CONFERENCE ROOM UPSTAIRS IS OPEN WITH THE TV ON, SO YOU CAN SEE THE COMMISSION MEETING. WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE DONE PRESENTING AND THEY VACATE THEIR SEAT YOU CAN COME TO TAKE THEIR SEATS. BUT RIGHT NOW, ANYONE STANDING IF YOU CAN GO TO THE CONFERENCE ROOM THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> AND MADAME CLERK, WILL YOU CALL THE ROLE.

>> LEDNOVICH, KREGER, COMMISSIONER ROSS, AND DOUG

GEIB. >> WE WILL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE INVOCATION BY REVEREND JOHN CASPER OF THE

BLACK ROCK BAPTIST CHURCH. >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR

ALL. >> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER FOR ALLOWING ME TOO COME BACK.

CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY. SINCE I AM PRAYING IT'D DOES MATTER WHO HEARS ME. BUT GOD HEARS ME.

A FEW YEARS AGO I STEPPED OUTSIDE OF MY HOUSE TO GO TO WORK AND I NOTICED THE MOST BEAUTIFUL TREE.

SO I HAD NO IDEA WHAT IT WAS BUT LIGHTNING STRUCK THE TREE AND THEY SAID GOD IS GOOD EVEN IF THE TREE DID NOT HIT MY HOUSE I KNOW GOD IS GOOD. WE EQUATE THINGS WERE GOD BEING GOOD. GOD BROUGHT US THROUGH A TOUGH YEAR. WE LOST A LOT OF GOOD FRIENDS.

BUT YET WE ARE HERE TONIGHT, BECAUSE GOD IS STILL GOOD.

LET'S PRAY. GOD WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT WE HAVE TO BE GRATEFUL AND THANKFUL FOR.

GOD I AND AS WE COME TOGETHER, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BLESSING THIS WHOLE GATHERING WITH YOUR WISDOM AND THE ADVISORY CAN GO IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THANK YOU FOR BEING GOODS WAS.

WE LOVE YOU AND WE PRAY THAT WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH REVEREND.

[5.4 COVID-­19]

>> WE WILL PUT A FEW THINGS ON THE AGENDA.

WE WILL MOVE ITEM 5.4, COVID TO THE FRONT.

WE DO HAVE THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES WITH US.

WE DO HAVE PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE DIRECTOR GREG FOSTER HERE.

YESTERDAY AT THE MEETING, THEY WENT THROUGH A KICKOFF OF THE VACCINATION AND THEY WILL GIVE US INFORMATION AND ANSWER

QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

MY NAME IS GREG FOSTER AND I AM THE DIRECTOR FOR NASSAU COUNTY.

IN REFERENCE TO THE COVID OVERALL SITUATION, AND THE VACCINATION PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IN EFFECT, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PREPARE AND TO DISTRIBUTE INFORMATION IN REFERENCE TO THE VIRUS AND THE VACCINE TO PROVIDE LOGISTICAL SUPPORT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND THE CITY GOVERNMENT WHEN IT COMES TO PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND ANYTHING ELSE THEY MAY NEED. AND ALSO TO COORDINATOR.

THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH,. >> OF MY JOB IS TO COORDINATE THE VACCINATION EFFORT BY REGISTERING PEOPLE AND SIGN THEM UP FOR THE VACCINE PROCESS AND TO SUPPLY INFORMATION TO KEEP

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PEOPLE UP TO DATE ON THE SITUATION.

WE HAVE DECIDED TO USE THE SYSTEM, IT IS A SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN USED BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR FOR QUITE A WHILE.

WE HAVE USED IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO GO AND GET A SPECIFIC NUMBER AND THE CITIZEN INFORMATION CENTER.

THEY WERE ABLE TO SCHEDULE VACCINATION.

THERE IS A LIMITED AMOUNT. WE KICK THIS OFF YESTERDAY.

WE HAVE 100 PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP TO GET VACCINATED.

IT TOOK MORE THAN 2 MINUTES TO FILL UP THE SLOTS.

TODAY, THERE ARE 400 AND IT TOOK 60 SECONDS.

WE OPENED IT UP AND 60 SECONDS LATER ALL OF THE SPOTS WERE TAKEN. OBVIOUSLY THE SYSTEM IS WORKING.

IT IS A SUCCESS. IT IS FRUSTRATING FOR PEOPLE AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH APPOINTMENTS AND VACCINES, HOWEVER WE ANTICIPATE THIS WILL CONTINUE. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY

QUESTIONS. >> DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS?

>> CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE CURRENT HOSPITAL CAPACITY IS?

>> THE HOSPITAL CAPACITY, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT.

>> CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY VACCINE DOSES ARE AVAILABLE TODAY, AND HOW MANY YOU ANTICIPATE BEING AVAILABLE ON A WEEKLY BASIS FOR THE NEXT 8-10 WEEKS.

THANK TO DATE, IN EXCESS OF 2,000 HAVE BEEN RECEIVED IN NASSAU COUNTY. THEY ARE FOUR DIFFERENT TARGET GROUPS. THE ANTICIPATION IS, AT SOME POINT WE WILL HAVE IN EXCESS OF 90,090,000.

>> MY QUESTION IS WHEN. >> WE ARE TOLD IT WILL BE PROGRESSIVE FROM NOW THROUGH THE SUMMER.

TARGETING THE DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE OVER THAT TIMEFRAME.

>> SO YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER? >> I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE DOES.

TERE WILL BE 90,000. >> THAT IS FINE.

SO WE DON'T KNOW, 85,000 PEOPLE ARE IN THE COUNTY BUT WE HAVE 2,000 VACCINES AND WE DO NOT KNOW OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF

WEEKS HOW MUCH WE WILL GET? >> NO, SIR.

>> FINE. IF YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK NASSAU COUNTY RESIDENTS SHOULD DO TO PREVENT GETTING AFFECTED, AND IF YOU THINK THIS IS EFFECTIVE.

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I THINK I AM RECOMMENDING THAT PEOPLE CONTINUE WITH THE INFORMATION PROVIDED.

I KNOW IT HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME NUANCES BUT THEY ALL FALL BACK DOWN TO SOCIAL DISTANCING, MORE THAN 6 FEET, EVEN FOR SHORT PERIODS OF TIME, AVOIDING CROWDS OF LARGE NUMBERS.

THAT HAS FLUCTUATED. STAYING AWAY FROM LARGE CROWDS, USE A MASS. HAND SANITATION.

WASHING YOUR HANDS. PROPER HYGIENE, AND IF YOU ARE

SICK, STAY HOME. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER -- >> AND THE DOCTOR WILL SPEAK

TOO. >> I'M SORRY VICE MAYOR.

YOU ARE NOT MARKED HERE. WOULD YOU GO OVER WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW.

>> AND THE COUNTY'S COMMITMENT TO PROVIDE WHATEVER ASSISTANCE

YOU NEED TO HELP YOUR. >> AND DOCTOR, I GUESS YOU WILL

TALK ABOUT THE -- >> WE KNOW THERE IS A SEGMENT OF CITIZENS THAT DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO COMPUTERS OR ARE NOT COMPUTER SAVVY. IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE ON. THIS IS MANNED BY SIX PEOPLE WITH THE ABILITY TO INCREASE THAT TO 12 PEOPLE ON DEMAND.

TO GIVE PEOPLE DIRECTION, ASSIST THEM AND IF THEY ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY CANNOT SIGN UP FOR THE EVENT, WE FORWARD

THEM. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. >> SO, I READ A STORY ABOUT THE VACCINE. IT SAID, THE COUNTY DOES NOT

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HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR THE PFIZER VACCINE.

IS THERE A PLAN TO HAVE BILLS, TO HAVE PFIZER VACCINE?

>> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE VACCINES WE WILL GET WILL BE MODERNA.

>> CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME PLEASE?

>> THANK YOU. >> SO PFIZER DOES HAVE A VACCINE THAT REQUIRES ULTRACOLD STORAGE AND THAT IS DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN. IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET IT TO THE MANUFACTURERS. SO, I BELIEVE ONLY A HANDFUL OF HOSPITALS, EVEN IN OUR AREA HAVE PFIZER.

AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY NOT ONLY IS IT A STORAGE ISSUE FOR THE DEPLOYMENT ISSUE.

IT IS BETTER FOR US TO HAVE THE MODERNA AND THE TWO ARE CLOSE SO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE WILL GET MODERNA EVEN WITHOUT THIS

COLD STORAGE CAPABILITY. >> DOES THAT IMPACT THE AMOUNT

OF VACCINE WE ARE GETTING? >> I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.

I DO KNOW WE DO HAVE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE GOTTEN THE PFIZER VACCINE. SO, AT SOME POINT, IF THERE IS EXCESS PFIZER AND THE HOSPITALS ARE THROUGH, THAT WILL GO TO HEALTHCARE WORKERS FIRST. THERE MAY BE ARRANGEMENTS TO GO TO THE FACILITY. I THINK AT THIS POINT PEOPLE JUST WANT A VACCINE. WE WILL TAKE WHAT WE CAN GET, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T GET PFIZER , WE CAN GET IT.

>> >> WE HAVE MARTIN LUTHER KING ON THE 18TH, WHAT IS YOUR BEST ADVICE TO THE CITY, CAN WE PERMIT THESE EVENTS AND IF WE PERMIT THEM, WHAT RESTRICTIONS CAN WE GET IN PLACE. AND WHAT PREVENTATIVE MEASURES

SHOULD WE EMPLOY. >> ON THE WEBSITE THERE ARE A LOT OF EVENT PLANNERS. I WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE STATUS THAT BOTH OF THE EVENTS MAY OCCUR AND IF WE HAVE A LOT OF TRANSMISSION EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SAFETY MEASURES IN PLACE, YOU WANT TO WAIT THE BALANCE OF ANY GATHERING OF PEOPLE, NOT ONLY IN CLOSE PROXIMITY BUT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THAT ENCOURAGE TRANSMISSION AND INTERMINGLING.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE EXPERIENCING EXTREMELY HIGH CASES IN THE COMMUNITY. WE KNOW THERE IS TRANSMISSION.

A LOT OF IT OCCURRING FROM CLOSE CONTACT.

ANY TYPE OF PUBLIC GATHERING, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF HOT CASES GOING ON SHOULD BE LOOKED AT CAREFULLY.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROCEED, MAKE SURE INSTRUCTIONS ARE THERE.

>> THANK YOU. >> EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SUPPORTS THAT INFORMATION. OBVIOUSLY WE WILL CONTINUE WITH

PREVENTATIVE MEASURES. >> AND GOING FORWARD, UNLESS QUESTION, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET A TICKET THIS MORNING.

BUT TO DO THAT I KNEW THE SIGN OF TIME WAS 10:00 A.M.

I WAS ON YOUR WEBSITE AT 955 VAMPIRIC AT 9:59 A.M. I KEPT REFRESHING. IT AUTOMATICALLY REFRESHED.

SO, YOU TELLING US, THAT THOSE 400 SLOTS WENT IN 60 SECONDS? IT INDICATES TO ME AND LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS ACCURATE, IF YOU ARE ON THE TEXT MESSAGE, RIGHT NOW, YOU CANNOT RESPOND FAST ENOUGH. UNLESS YOU DO WHAT I DID.

IS THAT CORRECT? AND JUST OR THAT IS CORRECT.

WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE PULLING AWAY FROM THAT TIME FRAME THAT WE HAVE USED. WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT BECAUSE WE ARE DOING DIFFERENT THINGS. WE WILL NOT CHANGE THE TIME.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEND OUT TEXT MESSAGES FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE STANDING BY, BUT WE ARE ANTICIPATING TOMORROW, MORE PEOPLE FIGURING OUT AN UNDERSTANDING WHEN IT WILL BE.

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>> THE BEST ADVICE IS TO BE ON THE COMPUTER AND ON THE PAGE AS

SOON AS THE CLOCK STRIKES TEN. >>

>> TWO QUESTIONS. IF YOU COULD GO, THERE IS ANTICIPATION, TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT EVERYONE WILL GET THIS VACCINE AND THEY WILL GET IT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

WHAT REALISTICALLY, OVER THE NEXT 12 WEEKS, HOW MUCH VACCINE WILL THERE BE. IF YOU KNOW.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW, IF WE GET 2,000 DOSES AND THAT IS IT, WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD OF US HAVING A VACCINE OVER THE NEXT 1-2

MONTHS. >> LET ME PUT THAT QUESTION INTO CONTEXT SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER WHAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER. IT IS CONTROLLED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ALLOCATED TO THE STATES AND THEN THE STATES GO DOWN TO THE COUNTY LEVEL. THAT IS THE PIPELINE.

IT'S ALSO THE OCCURRENCE WITH THE HOSPITALS.

SEPARATE FROM THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS OPERATIONAL WARP SPEED WHICH PROVIDED THE VACCINE TO PHARMACIES LIKE CVS AND WALGREENS WHO ARE GIVING THEM TO THE ONES AT THE HIGHEST RESPECT THEY ARE GETTING THEIR VACCINE THROUGH A DIFFERENT PIPELINE.

JUST LIKE US, WE WAIT AND WE WATCH AND WE SEE, HOW MUCH WE WILL GET EACH WEEK, THAT'S AN UNKNOWN BECAUSE IT IS CONTROLLED AT VARIOUS LEVELS AND DECISIONS ARE MADE BASED UPON WHAT THEY RECEIVED AND WHAT THE MANUFACTURER CAN DISTRIBUTE.

I BELIEVE ALSO, YOU NEED TO KNOW, A COMMON QUESTION IS IF I GET A FIRST ELSE DO I HAVE TO WAIT IN LINE FOR THE SECOND PERIOD WE HAVE HEARD, IF WE GET THE FIRST ONE, YOU WON'T MISS

RISKING THE SECOND DOSE. >> AS THE STATE GIVING YOU ANY

IDEA? >> WE WAIT AND WE TRIED TO PLAN, THAT IS WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE CANNOT OVERBOOK. WE CAN'T MAKE A PROMISE IF WE DON'T HAVE IT. ANOTHER ALLOCATION, THE FIRST PRIORITY WAS EMS AND THE COMMUNITY HEALTHCARE WORKERS.

AND THE GOVERNMENT ADDED WE HAD ALREADY PLANNED FOR THOSE GROUPS. WE ALSO DID PUSH ALLOCATIONS WHERE A PRACTICE COULD VACCINATE THEMSELVES, THAT GIVES US CAPACITY AND YOU WILL SEE IT RAMPING UP NEXT WEEK TO DO MORE OF THE PUBLIC BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO VACCINATE HEALTHCARE WORKERS IF THEY CAN DO IT THEMSELVES.

>> ONE LAST QUESTION. ARE THERE ANY REASONS THAT THE CITY SHOULD NOT, SHOULD NOT PASS A MASK ORDINANCE THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO ENFORCE.

>> I BELIEVE WEARING A MASK IS IMPORTANT BUT ENFORCEMENT IS THERE. I BELIEVE, THE MASK ORDINANCE DOES NOT COST A LOT FOR THE CITY, IT DOES MODEL YOUR COMMITMENT TO MITIGATION MEASURES.

WHEN I THINK ABOUT PUBLIC AND HEALTH MEASURES I THINK ABOUT THE SEATBELT THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO ADOPTED IT BECAUSE THERE WAS A GOOD THING TO DO AND THAT CHANGED.

I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING TO CNSIDER.

THERE IS INTANGIBLE BENEFITS TO SOMETHING LIKE A MASK MANDATE

EVEN IF YOU CANNOT ENFORCE IT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT WE HAVE STEPPED UP IN ADDITION TO GETTING VACCINES THEY SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO VACCINATE OTHERS. SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER TO DO WHAT WE CALL CLOSE PODS.

THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIFFICULTY GETTING APPOINTMENTS OR GETTING TO A CLINIC. WE ARE WORKING ON SETTINGS WHERE

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WE CAN COME TO THEM AND PROVIDE THE VACCINE AND NOT MAKE PEOPLE DRIVE TO GET THE VACCINE. WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT MODEL AS WELL THAT WE HAVE USED TO TARGET GROUPS THAT WE KNOW WILL BE CHALLENGED WITH THE CLINIC. WE ALSO LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME SUPPORT, I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG IT WILL LAST, BUT IT WILL HELP US MOVE IT FASTER. YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SIGNED CONTRACTS IN REFERENCE TO THE VACCINE PROCESS BECAUSE THEY HAVE OFFERED THAT UP. NASSAU COUNTY HAS REACHED OUT AND THE TEAMS WILL COME IN FOR A TEN DAY PERIOD WITH THE ANTICIPATION WE MAY EXTEND THAT. SO WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF COMING IN TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

THAT IS THE TYPE OF THING WE REQUEST THROUGH OUR OFFICE TO THE STATE TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT INTO THE JURISDICTION DIRECTLY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THIS IS CONTINGENT ON HOW MUCH OF THE VACCINE YOU GET. TO GIVE OUT 2,000 IN A COUPLE OF

DAYS IS A BIG UNDERTAKING. >> AND AGAIN, WITH THE ANTICIPATION WE WILL GET MORE. BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL

BE. >> I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT, WE ASKED THEM TO COME YESTERDAY, AND HERE THEY ARE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TO APPEAR BEFORE US, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

>> HE IS A RESIDENT. >> YES, I AM.

>> THANK YOU AGAIN. >> OKAY, A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS THAT I SKIPPED BECAUSE IT IS MY SECOND MEETING. PERSONAL DEVICES.

IF YOU WILL HAVE THOSE ON AIRPLANE MODE OR OFF, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. THE KORAN, DOES ANYONE KNOW DR.

TODD WASH BORN? >> I HEARD FROM HIM YESTERDAY.

AND HE REMINDED ME THAT WE ARE A COMPASSIONATE CITY, SO WE TREAT EACH OTHER WITH INTEGRITY AND RESPECT.

SO IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, THAT IS THE BEHAVIOR THAT WE WANT TO HAVE. SPEAKERS PLEASE ADDRESS THE MAYOR WHEN YOU ARE AT THE PODIUM AND YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.

COVID PROTOCOLS ARE IN PLACE. BUT ONE THING THAT PERSONALLY DRIVES ME CRAZY IS THIS. IT DRIVES ME NUTS.

YOU MAY AS WELL TAKE THE MASK OFF.

PLEASE KEEP YOUR MASK. IF YOU ARE SPEAKING KEEP YOUR

[4.2 PRESENTATION -­ NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY]

MASK ON. THAT IS APPRECIATED.

ONE MORE AGENDA CHANGE. THE HUMANE SOCIETY WILL MOVE FIRST BEFORE THE AIRPORT. DID THE DOG LEAVE QUACKS HERE SHE IS. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY FRIENDS. HE DOESN'T GET TO GO ON WEEKEND OUTINGS. TONIGHT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE COULD SHOW HIM OFF. HERE HE IS.

HE IS HANGING AND RELAXING AND ENJOYING HIS NIGHT OUT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> ARE YOU STILL DOING ADOPT A

DOG FOR A DAY QUACKS. >> WE.

>> WE DO IF WE KNOW YOU. WE DON'T DO IT, AT FIRST WE WERE DOING IT FOR VISITING PEOPLE OUT OF TOWN.

WE DO NEED YOU TO BE ESTABLISHED JUST SO, YOU CAN BE ESTABLISHED.

IF YOU NEED THE DOG AND YOU GET TO KNOW US AND THE DOG WE WILL LET YOU TAKE HIM OUT FOR THE DAY.

BUT WE PREFER WE KNOW YOU FOR MORE THAN A DAY TO DO THAT.

>> HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD OZZIE QUACKS.

>> WE HAVE HAD AUSSIE'S IN SEPTEMBER.

>> HELD AS HE QUACKS IS TWO YEARS OLDER.

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>> NO IDEA WHAT KIND OF A BREED HE IS.

WITH HIS FIRM AND HIS LOOK, IS JUST A DOG.

>> HAPPY NEW YEAR, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> HAVE A GOOD NIGHT GUYS. >> THANK YOU.

[4.1 PRESENTATION -­ AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION]

>> ALL RIGHT, ITEM OR .1, PRESENTATION ON THE AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION. WE HAVE THE CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN HERE. AND THE AIRPORT MANAGER.

WITH ME IS EVENING IS MR. CHUCK COLCORD.

AND I HAVE DOUG GEIB WHO IS THE CHAIRPERSON.

HE IS NOT ABLE TO BE WITH THE SPIRIT ALSO HIDING IN THE HALLWAY ANOTHER MEMBER, AND ROGER WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE AVIATION. WE WILL TOUCH ON HIM BRIEFLY AND HIS ROLE AS A PARTNER THE AIRPORT.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE THEM TO JOIN YOU QUACKS.

>> IF THEY ARE WILLING TO COME INTO THE ROOM.

>> SURE, THEY CAN COME INTO THE ROOM.

>> SO THE LAST MEETING, I DISCUSS THIS PRESENTATION AND THE PURPOSE IS FOR THE MEMBERS TO COME IN AND PROVIDE YOU WITH THE RECENT ACHIEVEMENTS AND DISCUSS THE GOALS AND WHAT WE SEE IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE AND HAVE THE COMMUNICATION TO GET DIRECTION AND INTERACTION. SO THEY PROVIDED INPUT ON THE COMPONENTS OF THIS PRESENTATION. I WILL GIVE YOU INFORMATION ON THE FRONT END. WE HAVE A BROAD STROKE OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE AIRPORT IN GENERAL AND THEN I WILL AND IT

OVER TO MR. CHUCK COLCORD. >> A LIST OF CURRENT MEMBERS, WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES AND ONE APPLICATION COMING IN THE NEXT MEETING FOR APPOINTMENT CONSIDERATION.

THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE IN JANUARY.

NEXT WEEK WE WILL LOOK AT APPLICATIONS.

SO WE DO HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE INTERESTED AND WE OFTEN -- OFTEN HAVE MEMBERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE BOARD. I KNOW THIS IS CLASSIFIED AS A GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT. WE EXIST ON 850 ACRES.

WE HAVE RECREATIONAL AND PRIVATE FLYING OPERATIONS, SIGHTSEEING AND SKYDIVERS FROM TIME TO TIME. OCCASIONAL LIFE FLIGHT OPERATIONS. AIRPORT SEASON ESTIMATED 40,000 OPERATIONS PER YEAR. LANDING, TAKE OFF AND TOUCHING GO. THE AIRPORT IS NONCONTROLLED AIRPORT WHICH OPERATES OFF OF THE COMMENT TRAFFIC.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE 56 BASED AIRCRAFT ON THE FIELD AND WE HAVE 73 INDIVIDUALS ON END. WE HAVE A STRONG DEMAND FOR HANGAR SPACE. IN GENERAL IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THERE'S A STRONG DEMAND FOR ANCHOR SPACE AT THE AIRPORTS. WE HAVE MULTIPLE BUSINESSES AROUND THE AIRPORTS. WE WANT TO MAYBE BRING IN OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THE AIRPORT ITSELF IS SELF-SUSTAINING SO WE DON'T HAVE PROPERTY TAXES WE ARE IN THE BLACK. THE RESERVE BALANCE IS USED TO MATCH GRANT FUNDS. THE AIRPORT SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES 41 MILLION TO THE REGION.

THAT IS PART OF A LARGER SYSTEM FROM THE STATE WHICH THEY ESTIMATE AVIATION IN THE STATE, PROVIDES $175 BILLION.

ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE.

>> ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE AIRPORT, IT'S A STRONG COMMUNITY SUPPORT NETWORK. WE HAVE 56 AIRCRAFT WITH MANY TENANTS WHO ARE VERY ACTIVE AND NONPROFIT AGENCIES.

THEY HELP WITH EVERYTHING FROM ANNUAL EVENTS TO ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES. THEY ARE ALWAYS SUPPORTIVE WHEN WE OPEN OUR DOORS TO KEEP EVERYTHING SAFE.

>> IN ADDITION TO THE INFORMAL COMMITTEE WE HAVE THREE PREVALENT NONPROFIT AGENCIES AT THE AIRPORT THAT ARE VERY ACTIVE, THE FIRST IS FRIENDS OF FERNANDINA BEACH.

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MANY ARE PART OF THE AGENCY. THEIR ROLE IS TO PROVIDE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH FROM THE COMMUNITY.

THEY ALSO USE REVENUE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS TO USE AND THEY ALSO PROVIDE PROGRAMS WHERE THEY SEND MEMBERS OF THE YOUTH TO THE FLIGHT ACADEMY EACH YEAR IN A NON- COVERT YEAR WHICH IS A GREAT EVENT.

>> WE HAVE A LOCAL CHAPTER WHERE THE EEA, ANOTHER GREAT NONPROFIT THAT PROVIDES OUTREACH AND EDUCATION.

THEY PROVIDE THE YOUNG EAGLES PROGRAM.

THEY PROVIDE FREE FLIGHT TO USE. THEY ALSO PROVIDE FINANCIAL SUPPORT. YOU MAY BE AWARE OF THE LIFE TRAINING OF INDIVIDUALS THAT SUPPORT THE AIRCRAFT.

AND THEY TAKE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND THEY START THEM ON A PROGRAM TO GET A PRIVATE LICENSE.

THEN WE HAVE SIMILAR AIR PATROL SQUADRON THAT PROVIDES MANDATED EDUCATION. IT SUPPORTS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. HE HAPPENS TO BE PART OF THAT ORGANIZATION AND HE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> WAITING IN THE WINGS IS CHUCK COLCORD.

HE WILL TELL YOU MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY DO AND THEIR GOALS.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I'M JUST GOING TO GO OVER WHAT IS ON THE SLIDE HERE AND THE SCREEN DISPLAY. THE AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE ARE JUST AN ADVISORY COMMISSION WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS. THAT'S UP TO YOU.

WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE AIRPORT.

>> THE AIRPORT IS UTILIZED BY ALL CITIZENS.

WE MAY RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING SALE ON OR ADJACENT TO THE AIRPORT AND LAND USE NEAR THE AIRPORT.

WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. >> -- CAN YOU STOP, I WANT TO FOCUS ON YOU AND UNFORTUNATELY AM FOCUSING ON.

>> LET'S WORK THIS OUT. IF YOU WILL HANG ON.

I HEARD EVERY OTHER WORD. I WAS DISTRACTED BY THAT.

WE HAVE A REMOTE PERSON, AND HE MAY BE GETTING SOME

INTERFERENCE. >> OF COURSE NOW IT STOPS.

>> MURPHY'S LAW. >>

>> HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT COLESLAW QUACKS.

>> KNOW WHAT IS COLESLAW QUACKS. >> IT IS THINLY SLICED LETTUCE

AND MAYO. >> OKAY, SOMEONE HAS BEEN

WATCHING NICKELODEON. >> WOULD YOU MIND STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN QUACKS ONCE AGAIN, I WAS DISTRACTED.

>> NOT AT ALL. >> HELLO I AM CHUCK COLCORD I AM ON THE AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION.

I'VE BEEN ON THERE FOR YEARS NOW.

I JUST WANT TO TOUCH WHAT IS ON THE SLIDE AND ON THE SCREEN.

THE COMMISSION, WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THIS IS REGARDING PLANNING DEVELOPMENT FOR THE AIRPORT.

WE DO HAVE CERTAIN USES THAT ABIDE BY FAA REGULATIONS.

ANY GRANTS, THE AIRPORT GETS GRANTS FROM THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FROM THE AVIATION FUNDS. WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON POLICY AND ANY CHANGES TO THE AIRPORT GROUND OR ANYTHING IN THE OPERATIONS AND ANGER AND ANY OF THE PROPERTIES.

WE PROVIDE ASSISTANCE AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY COMMISSIONER TO ADVISE AND ASSIST FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE AIRPORT. THE AIRPORT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, IT IS A GYM FOR NASSAU

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COUNTY. IT HAS A LOT OF ECONOMIC IMPACT TO CERTAIN AREAS. JUST TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THE RECENT ACHIEVEMENTS. WE PROVIDED INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON RUNWAY ON THE NORTHEAST RUNWAY.

IT HAS BEEN ALMOST A YEAR, WHERE WE HAD EIGHT GPS PROCEDURE.

WE HAD IT ON TO RUNWAYS PRIOR TO THAT.

IN THE WINTER, RUNWAY FOUR WITH THE PREVAILING WINDS, IT WAS A FEAR ENHANCEMENT. THAT WAS A RESULT OF ONE OF OUR FORMER COMMISSIONER MEMBERS HE WAS A CORPORATE PILOT AND SOME OF THE CARRIERS HAVE REGULATIONS OR IF THEY ARE BELOW A MINIMUM THEY HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER AREA. SO, AS IT SAYS ON HERE, HAVING ANOTHER ONE INCREASES THE SAFETY AT THE AIRPORT.

THE HANGAR DEVELOPMENT AND THEY MENTIONED THAT, YOU WILL PROBABLY SEE STUFF ON THAT COMING UP IN THE FUTURE.

THE RESULT OF THAT WAS AIRPORT BUILDING AND PLANNING THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE INITIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE HAD QUITE EXTENSIVE DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT WOULD BE THE PROPER FORMULA, WHETHER TO CONTINUE WITH THE CURRENT OPERATIONS WHERE THE CITY OWNS EVERYTHING OR THE POSSIBILITY OF PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS BECAUSE THERE IS QUITE A BACKLOG ON PRIVATE ANCHORS AND WE WANT TO WAIT TO GET MORE ON THE PROPERTY TO ADDRESS THE CUSTOMER NEED. PART OF THIS WAS, SOMEONE CAME IN WITH A CURRENT PROPOSAL, I THINK IT WAS A BID THAT WAS SCORED LAST WEEK AND YOU WILL SEE THAT COMING UP.

AND SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS, WE HAD QUITE A PACK HOUSE FOR SOME OF THE MEETINGS. THAT IS GOOD TO HAVE THE CITIZEN FEEDBACK, AND COME TO A FORUM WHERE PEOPLE CAN EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS. WE REVIEWED THE FEEDBACK FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. THE COMMISSIONERS, THERE WAS A NATURAL PLAN AND OTHER RULES THAT GO ALONG THAT WERE APPROVED THAT WOULD BE WITH THE OPERATION OF THE AIRPORT.

WE STREAMLINED AND THAT WAS THE DOCUMENTS.

KIND OF LIKE A LOT OF DOCUMENTS IT NEEDS TO BE REVISED AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TAKE ON. THAT'S ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES TO KEEP IT UP-TO-DATE WITH WHAT THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS WANT. ANY QUESTIONS QUACKS.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. AIRPORT MANAGER.

I JUST WANT ONE THING TO BE CLEAR.

THE AIRPORT FUND DOES NOT USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

THE BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT THERE AND THE IMPROVEMENTS, ARE NOT WITHOUT TAX. DOES IT COME FROM THE FAA AND THE REVENUES THAT YOU GENERATE FROM THE AIRPORT.

>> AIRPORT IS FUNDED THROUGH OPERATIONS REVENUES SUCH AS AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS, GROUND REVENUE, AND REVENUE FROM THE FAA AND THE STATE THAT PROVIDES MONEY ON CAPITAL PROJECTS.

>> SO THE THING THAT MAKES IT WORK IS THE GRANTS WE GET FROM

THE FAA AND THE STATE. >> THEY PROVIDE GRANTS AND IT

OFFSETS THE COST. >> AND THE SECOND POINT, BECAUSE WE TAKE SO MUCH GRANT MONEY, THERE'S A LOT OF STRINGS ATTACHED AND ON WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO AT THE AIRPORT.

CAN YOU EXPOUND ON THAT. >> WE WERE FORTUNATE.

THE STATE REFER TO THOSE AS CURRENT.

THAT IS ONE WAY IN WHICH THE FAA CONFIRMS YOUR COMPLIANCE.

EVERY TIME YOU ACCEPT A GRANT FROM THAT AGENCY, THAT GRANT HAS A LIFESPAN TIED TO THE ASSET. THERE ARE A SERIES OF GRANT ASSURANCES THAT THE CITY SIGNS. THAT THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM MAINTAINING A SAFE AIRPORT TO THE WAY YOU USE AIRPORT

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PROPERTY, THE WAY YOU USE AIRPORT REVENUE.

YOU CANNOT TAKE OR PRODUCE FROM AN AIRPORT AND USED FOR AN OUTSIDE PURPOSE. ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS FALL

IN THE SAME PLACE. >> AND AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON AIRPORT PROPERTY WHICH IS A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE AIRPORT IN OUR FUNDING SOURCES.

THE OTHER THING IS REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS, THE AIRPORTS HAVE MINIMUM STANDARDS WE CAN GO OVER THOSE ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE DO TAKE INPUT AND DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COMMISSION. ANYTIME THE CITY COMMISSION, WHETHER OLD OR NEW, IF THEY HAVE SOME TOPIC OR SOME ITEM THAT YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE THEREFORE.

WHICH IN TURN HELP THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH AND THE COUNTY RESIDENTS AS WELL. SO COMMISSIONER ROSS HAS ASKED HIS QUESTION, DO ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION QUACKS.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> FOR FIVE YEARS I WAS THE

LIAISON TO THE AIRPORT ADVISOR. >> THERE ARE MORE AIRPLANES IN

THE AIR THEM BOATS IN THE WATER. >> I WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU TO NATE AND EVERYONE INVOLVED FOR HAVING SUCH A GREAT AND WELL-RUN AIRPORT. WE APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK.

MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION IS, THE FIRE STATION PLANS ARE LOOKING VERY NICE. IS THERE WAY, BECAUSE IT IS A JOINT VENTURE -- TRACK VENTURE CAN THEY ASSIST WITH THE BUILDING OF THE FIRE STATION QUACKS.

>> THE PORTION OF THE FACILITY WILL BE USED FOR AIRPORT FIRE RESPONSE. WE HAVE PROGRAMS WITH THE STATE, $575,000 CAN GRANT FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE FACILITY.

IT'S UNDER THE AVIATION PROGRAM SO WILL SUPPORT THE BUILDING BUT IT IS GOING INTO THE FACILITY. IT IS ABOUT $535,000.

I THINK THE FINAL FUNDING PLAN IS STILL IN DISCUSSION.

BUT THE GRANT FUNDING HAS BEEN PROGRAMMED TO ALIGN WITH A

GENERAL TIMELINE. >> EXCELLENT.

>> THANK YOU. >> 2015 WAS THE LAST TIME THE PLANE WAS ADOPTED. MY EXPERIENCE, YOU WILL SEE THE PLAN ADOPTED OR REVISED 10-15 YEARS INTO THAT TIMEFRAME.

I THINK THE PREMISE OF THE MASTER PLAN IS VALID.

BY PREMISE, I MEAN, THE TYPE OF AIRCRAFT, CONSERVING THE PURPOSE OF THE AIRPORT IS IMPORTANT. WE HAVE NO INTENTION FOR THAT TO CHANGE FOR THE PROJECT IS VALID SO I THINK A LOT OF COMPONENTS ARE VALID. WE EVER DOCUMENT CALLED THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN THAT DISPLAYS THE PROPERTY AND THE INTENDED USE. SO IF THIS SUCCEEDS A MASTER PLAN THAT MAY BE A REASON YOU WANT TO CONSIDER A REVISION.

WE ARE NOT DOING THAT. I USE IT ON A DAILY BASIS.

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ALL OF THE INFORMATION IS STILL VALID.

>> THE THING THAT IS PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANT AND UPDATED MORE REGULARLY IS THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

WE NEED -- WE GOT AN UPDATE TO THAT LAST YEAR.

THOSE GUYS ANY VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS ARE WELCOME TO JOIN. HE -- HE HAS A WEAK WI-FI SYSTEM SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE WILL TRY TO GO TO ANOTHER LOCATION BUT WE

ARE MONITORING HIM. >> FAIR ENOUGH, WE WILL PROCEED.

[5.1 CONSERVATION / ENVIRONMENT]

>> ITEM 5.1 IS CONSERVATION ENVIRONMENT THAT IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY THE MAYOR. THE ONLY THING I HAVE UNDER CONSERVATION IS, THE LAND TRUST EFFORTS TO RAISE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE DUNES.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF THAT.

DOES ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING ON CONSERVATION

QUACKS. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER.

>> I THOUGHT THEY HAD A MEETING SCHEDULED TO ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME FUNDING. MAYBE GIL CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE

ON WHAT WE WILL NEED ON THAT. >> A MEETING HAS NOT BEEN SET

UP. >> CAN YOU COME APPEAR?

>> THERE IS A MEETING SCHEDULED. I DON'T KNOW WHEN.

IT WAS DELAYED BECAUSE IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA.

IT HAS NOT BEEN RESCHEDULED. >> THANK YOU, CAN YOU SAY YOUR

NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MY NAME IS GIL.

>> ANOTHER MEETING HAS NOT BEEN SCHEDULED.

>> DO YOU THINK WE WILL DISCUSS THAT AT THE WORKSHOP ON THE

11TH? >> IT IS WITH THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AND RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE A ROLE IN THAT

WORKSHOP. >> WAS THE COUNTY AT ANY POINT

GOING TO CONSIDER THAT REQUEST? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO

THAT. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> WHAT HAPPENED AT THE MEETING, IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND A REQUEST AND MOTION WAS BROUGHT FORWARD. IT HAD A SECOND PERIOD THEY CAN SPEAK TO WHAT IT WAS DEFEATED. THEY WANTED MORE TIME TO LOOK AT IT. WHETHER THAT WILL COME BACK TO THE DDC OR NOT, IT IS THEIR PREROGATIVE.

THAT IS WHERE IT STANDS. IT WAS DEFEATED BY THE DDC.

THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

I APPRECIATE THAT. >> WE WILL HEAR.

[5.2 WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT ­]

[5.3 OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY (OHPA) ]

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>> ITEM 5.3, OCEAN HIGHWAY IN PORT AUTHORITY PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER ROSS. COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. IF YOU GO TO THE COURT YOU CAN SEE A NEW WAREHOUSE HAS BEEN BUILT.

IT IS A FABRIC WAREHOUSE IN EXCESS OF $4 MILLION.

AND THIS WILL GIVE TO $.9 MILLION OR 37% OF THE MONEY.

AND THAT GRANT AGREEMENT, THERE WAS A GRANT AGREEMENT SIGNED BY THE OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY.

THEY AGREED TO ONE. THIS IS ON PAGE 27 OF THE AGREEMENT SECTION D. COMPLIANCE WITH LAWS AND RULES.

BOTH THE AGENCY WITH RESPECT TO THE PROJECT GOES ON TO SAY THE APPLICABLE CURRENT RULES OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT WILL BE FOLLOWED, INCLUDING THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ZONING, AND LAND USE ORDINANCE AND THE LOCAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IN SECTION E, IT GOES ON TO SAY CONSTRUCTION, CERTIFICATION AND TALKS ABOUT FOLLOWING AN ORDINANCE INCLUDING THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT REQUIREMENT FOR LOCAL BUILDING CODES AND LOCAL ZONING CODES. FINALLY IT SAYS THAT AGENCY ENSURES THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT AND THAT AGENCY -- WITH THE CURRENTLY EXISTING PLANS APPROVED BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAVING JURISDICTION OR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE AREA, AND NUMBER TWO, THAT THE AGENCY, NUMBER THREE, THE AGENCY ENSURES THE MASTER PLAN IS INCORPORATED AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS WAREHOUSE WAS NOT PART OF THIS. THEY DID NOT FOLLOW A NUMBER OF THE ISSUES IN THE BUILDING ORDINANCE INCLUDING IMPACT FEES AND OTHER MATTERS. I WOULD ASK THAT THE CITY COMMISSION, ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO WRITE A LETTER TO THEM, TO SIMPLY FIND OUT, I'LL THEY BELIEVE THEY ADDRESSED THESE ISSUES WHICH THEY ASSURED THE GRANT BUT THEY DID NOT.

SO PERHAPS THEY KNOW SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW BUT IF THEY COULD ADDRESS BOTH ISSUES THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD WRITE A LETTER TO

THEM, AND ADDRESS THE ISSUES. >> VICE MAYOR.

>> I CONCUR WITH THAT. I THOUGHT I SAW AN E-MAIL FROM THE STATE, THIS IS RELATIVE TO THE GRANTS.

>> I JUST WANT APPROVAL, THAT'S ALL.

>> I THINK WE SHOULD. >> CAN YOU, I KNOW YOU STEPPED OUT OF THE ROOM, I AM NOT SURE IF YOU HEARD THE CONVERSATION.

>> WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. >> WE DID.

>> WHAT IS THE DIRECTION FOR ME QUACKS.

>> WRITE A LETTER. >> DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO WRITE

A LETTER QUACKS. >> ANY INFORMATION AND HOW DID YOU COMPLY WITH THESE REQUIREMENTS QUACKS.

>> THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND WE ARE ASKING FOR INFORMATION WHICH SEEMS LIKE THE RIGHT MOVE, DO WE, I GUESS DO WE HAVE, BECAUSE IF THEY ARE IN CONFLICT WITH THE GRANT RULES, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WORKS OUT.

SO LET'S WRITE THE LETTER. >> AND YOU EXPLAINED IT HAS A

PROVISION. >> YES.

>> THEY WILL FOLLOW LOCAL LAWS QUACKS.

>> YES. >> OKAY.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUACKS. >> SCENE NINE, WE WILL MOVE ON.

>> ONE OTHER THING TAMMI. IF YOU COULD GIVE IT TO THEM

BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. >> I CAN WRITE IT TOMORROW.

>> I THINK, WHAT I WILL DO CITY MANAGER ON 5.4 SINCE WE DISCUSSED COVID, I WILL USE THAT ILLUSTRATION ON THE MASK WHEN WE GET TO THAT. IS THAT AGREEABLE TO EVERYONE?

>> YES. >> SO WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 5.5 WHICH IS THE FERNANDINA BEACH MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE.

PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY THE MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, I SENT ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND INDEPENDENT

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GOLF COURSE ASSESSMENT THANK YOU.

>> I'M SORRY OKAY. LET US BACK UP BECAUSE I HAVE A REQUEST TO SPEAK ON OCEAN HIGHWAY IMPORT AUTHORITY.

>> GOOD EVENING. MIRIAM HILL.ENTH STREET.

I'M WITH OCEAN HIGHWAY PORT AUTHORITY DISTRICT ONE.

I WAS STANDING IN THE COLD BECAUSE THE LOBBY IS FULL.

>> I AM SORRY. >> AND THE FEEDERS ON LIVE SO WHEN I CAME INSIDE I DID NOT GET TO HEAR THE INITIAL DISCUSSION BUT I ALREADY SPOKE TO COMMISSIONER ROSS ABOUT THE DISCUSSION. MY RESPONSE TO THAT WAS THE SAME. I ASKED WHETHER OR NOT THE STAFF HAD CONTACTED THE OPERATOR OR SOMEONE AT THE PORT BECAUSE TYPICALLY THAT WOULD BE HANDLED AT THE CITY STAFF LEVEL.

AND WHAT PROCESS, THIS WAS PRIOR TO MY TIME IN OFFICE, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION PROCESS.

AS OPPOSED TO THE TWO BOARDS SPEAKING TO ONE ANOTHER AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, WHICH IN THE PAST IS NOT NECESSARILY BEEN AS EFFECTIVE AS MY QUESTION ABOUT HOW IT WAS HANDLED AT THE STAFF

LEVEL. >> SO WHEN THE PROJECT CAME TO THE CITY, IT WAS COMMISSIONER ROSS AND SOME CITIZENS WHO HAD SOMETHING GOING ON. SO COMMISSIONER ROSS, INVESTIGATED A LITTLE BIT AND FOUND THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT WITH A 2 MILLION-DOLLAR MATCH REQUIREMENT.

>> MORE THAN THAT. >> SO, WE HAD A SERIES OF LETTERS THROUGH JULY AND SEPTEMBER THAT EXPLAINED WHAT NEEDED TO BE FOLLOWED, BECAUSE OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT THAT PROVIDES ALL OF THIS. IT IS AN ASSURANCE.

SO, THE LETTER IN JULY, I WAS CONTACTED BY THE ATTORNEY AND, I TOLD HIM CERTAINLY, YOU HAVE TO AGREE THAT BUILDING PERMITS ARE REQUIRED. AND HE ARGUED TO ME, HE SAID WHAT ABOUT IMPACT FEES, THOSE ARE LOCAL.

HE SAID THE OPERATOR WILL NOT PAY THE IMPACT FEES.

SO I SAID, THIS IS UNDERWAY. WE NEED TO GET BUILDING PERMITS.

AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IMPACT FEES LATER.

THAT IS WHERE WE LEFT IT AND WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSS IS REFERRING TO, NOT WITH THIS REGARD, BUT THE IMPACT FEES HAVE NOT BEEN PAID. THAT OCCURRED TO US, THAT THE LOCAL LAW THAT THEY SHOULD FOLLOW IS TO PAINT LOCAL IMPACT

FEES. >> AND THE OTHER ISSUES IN THEIR THAT WERE NOT ADDRESSED. AND THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE PLAN THAT HAS TO BE THIS. THEY MADE ASSURANCES TO F.THAT

THEY DID USE THOSE. >> I'M SORRY.

>> IT'S OKAY. >> TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IT IS THE POSITION OF PORT AUTHORITY, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE BOARD, BUT IMPACT FEES ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO THE ACTIVITIES BY WAY OF THEIR CHARTER. HOWEVER THEY DID APPLY FOR A PERMIT AND IT IS THEIR POSITION OF THAT ENTITY AND THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT IMPACT THESE WERE NOT APPLICABLE.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE PROCESS WOULD TYPICALLY BE THAT YOU WOULD APPLY FOR PERMITS YOU WOULD BE GIVING THAT'S RIGHT GIVEN THE PERMITS AND THEN YOU WOULD GET A NOTICE OF COMMENCEMENT AND YOU WOULD FOLLOW THAT PROCEDURE.

THAT IS WHAT I KNOW. I AM HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CITY

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AND TO COORDINATE BECAUSE THE GOAL OF THE PROCESS IS PUBLIC SAFETY AND THAT IS THE GOAL OF ALL OF US.

THIS IS THE WELL-BEING OF THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SORRY FOR HOLDING EVERYONE UP.

>> DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE QUACKS.

>> I KNOW YOU UNDERSTAND THIS, WHAT THE COMMISSION IS REFERRING TO, WE HAVE THIS EXTRA LAYER, OF REGULATIONS OR REQUIREMENTS BASED ON CERTAIN THINGS REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE CHARTER

SAYS. >> MACK, YOU CAN GO, WHEN THEY APPLIED FOR THE GRANT, THEY MADE CERTAIN REPRESENTATIONS.

DID YOU FOLLOW THESE AND I DON'T THINK THEY FOLLOW THEM FROM WHAT I LOOKED AT. SO MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW. WHAT THE LETTER SAYING, THIS IS WHAT F., YOU AGREED WITH THIS TO GET THE MONEY.

THIS IS WHAT YOU AGREED TO. IF THEY DIDN'T FIND.

IF THEY DID NOT IT IS UP TO F.WHAT TO DO.

>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR COMING.

IT SHOWS A WILLINGNESS TO WORK TOGETHER.

WE WOULD LIKE TO COME TOGETHER WITH AN AGREEMENT THAT WORKS FOR

EVERYONE. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> HE IS A LOT MORE POLITICAL. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> ON TO ITEM 5.3 THE GOLF

[5.5 FERNANDINA BEACH MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE]

COURSE. PUT ON THE AGENDA BY THE MAYOR.

>> SOBEL BEGAN, AS AN EFFORT BY THE CITY MANAGER, A PROPOSAL TO SAVE MONEY, REGARDING THE OUTSIDE MANAGEMENT OF THE GOLF COURSE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AT THE MARINA ADVISORY MEETING, MR. KEN APPLIES TO ALL ASSETS IN THE CITY.

THE ASSETS OF THE CITY HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.

I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. PAST CITY COMMISSIONS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. BECAUSE OF THIS PAST HISTORY.

OF NOT COMMITTING FUNDS FOR THE PROPER MAINTENANCE OF CITY FACILITIES, INCLUDING THE GOLF COURSE, WE NOW FIND OURSELVES IN THIS POSITION. SO WHILE I BELIEVE, ARE YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

>> MY NAME IS TONY AM THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF INDIGO GOLF.

>> I'M SORRY WAS YOUR LAST NAME QUACKS.

>> CHANCEY. >> I AM THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT AND TO YOUR QUESTION WE EXIST AS AN ENTITY.

IT IS HOWEVER, OWNED BY -- AS OF MIDNIGHT DECEMBER 31.

>> THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. AND YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO

SPEAK. >> SO, PART OF THIS PROCESS, IN MY MIND, WAS AS I STATED IT, THIS IS WHAT I FOUND.

THIS PARTICULARLY ON THE SOUTH GOLF GOALS.

IN ORDER TO OBTAIN, AND UNBIASED ASSESSMENT, TO GOLF COURSE EXPERTS INSPECTED THE FACILITY. THE REPORT WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY COMMISSION. IT WAS GIVEN TO INDIGO GOLF AND

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TO THE LOCAL MEDIA. THE TWO INDIVIDUALS, THIS WAS LOCATED IN JAPAN. THE SECOND WAS BOBBY.

IT IS WELL KNOWN, AND THEY DO A LOT OF WORK FOR THE PGA TOUR AND GOLF COURSES. YOU WANT TO PLAY GOLF ON GRASS.

BUT IF YOU ARE A POOR GOLFER YOU ARE OFTEN NOT LIKE THIS.

BOTH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS WENT OUT, THEY DID AN INSPECTION, AND THEY ISSUED A REPORT. HE WROTE THE NINE HOLES ARE IN POOR SHAPE. IF I WERE TO PAY $45, I WOULD BE VERY DISSATISFIED AND I WOULD NOT BE A REPEAT CUSTOMER.

I WILL NOT GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE REPORT.

IT IS AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE WANTS TO SEE IT BUT THAT WAS HIS ASSESSMENT OF THE SOUTH. THE OTHER HE RATED MUCH BETTER.

THE MOST PLAYABLE OF THE THREE, THE NORTH COURSE, WE ARE REDOING THE GREEN SPIRIT THAT NINE IS CLOSED.

HE RAISED THE ISSUE OF WHY THEY WERE OVER SEEDED.

OVERALL, THIS HAS SIMILAR PROBLEMS TO THE SOUTH AND WEST.

MR. REID, IN HIS ASSESSMENT, ONE WAS DISAPPOINTMENT DISMAL CONDITIONS. HIS ASSESSMENT WAS THEY ARE NOT HE ALSO SAID THERE WAS TEN YEARS OF NEGLECT.

THEY SAY THIS WAS DONE WITHOUT THEM KNOWING THE PLANT.

IS THAT CORRECT QUACKS I WOULD SAY WHAT EVER YOUR PLAN IS, THEY FOUND IT AND IT IS NOT WORKING. THIS ASSESSMENT TELLS ME, WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING IS NOT ENOUGH.

BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE I HAVE FOUR DOCUMENTS IN FRONT OF ME.

I ALSO GOT FEEDBACK FROM THE GROUNDS CREW MEMBERS.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY SAY IS THE GOLF COURSES UNDERSTAND.

THEY DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE ON STAFF TO MAINTAIN 27 HOLES OF GOLF. I GET THAT.

I GET THAT. THEY ALSO SAID THE EQUIPMENT IS OLD. IT IS WORN AND IT IS A MATTER OF RESOURCES. TO BE FAIR, THE UNDERSTAFFING OF THE GOLF COURSE, INDIGO SENT FOUR DOCUMENTS TODAY WHICH I SPENT THE WHOLE AFTERNOON READING.

THEY SENT US 206 AND 2013 REPORTS, AND ALSO SENT US THE 2013 AND 2018 LONG RANGE PLANS, ALONG WITH YOUR LETTER.

ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE FOUR DOCUMENTS, SO GOING BACK TO

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2006, SAY THE GOLF COURSE IS UNDERSTAFFED, WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS, FOR 15 YEARS, UNDERSTAFFING OF THE GOLF COURSES AND NOT HAVING THE RESOURCES, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THE GOLF COURSE TALKING TO PEOPLE.

I SPOKE TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE MEN'S CLUB.

IN 2011, THERE WERE 300 MEMBERS, IN 2021, THERE WERE 100.

THEY HAVE (THEY LEFT BECAUSE OF WHAT I READ.

AND FINALLY, THE LAST PAGE, WHERE THE TRANSFERS FROM THE GOLF COURSE FUNDS WHICH HISTORICALLY WERE MAKING MONEY ALL THE WAY TO 2009, INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

SO, ALL OF THE WAY THROUGH 2009 THEY WERE MAKING ENOUGH MONEY AND THE CITY WAS PULLING MONEY OUT OF IT.

TEN THE REVERSE HAPPENED, JUST A SHORT FOUR YEARS LATER WHERE WE STARTED PULLING MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND INTO THE GOLF FUN. SO, WHAT HAPPENED.

THAT IS THE QUESTION. THE CITY DID NOT COMMIT TO PROPERLY MAINTAINING THE GOLF COURSE.

I DON'T CARE WHO MANAGES IT. YOU WILL NEED A MAGIC WAND TO FIGURE THIS OUT THIS IS PART OF THE SECOND LETTER.

IT IS NECESSARY IF THE CITY DESIRES TO ELEVATE THE CURRENT STATE OF GOLF COURSE CONDITIONS. DID I READ THAT CORRECTLY? MY FIRST QUESTION, WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM YOU CAN ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHY DID THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD. I'VE BEEN TO EVERY BOARD MEETING AND COMMITTEE MEETING SINCE 2018.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY ONE OF THESE DOCUMENTS UNTIL TODAY.

WE HAVE A GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND YOUR GENERAL MANAGER RUNS THE MEETING AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE 2018 LONG RANGE PLAN. I'VE NEVER SEEN THE 2013 LONG-RANGE PLAN. I HAVE NEVER SEEN EITHER OF THESE REPORTS. THAT IS QUESTION NUMBER ONE.

QUESTION NUMBER TWO, HAVE BEEN ON THE CITY COMMISSION FOR TWO YEARS. I HAVE BEEN THROUGH TWO BUDGET SESSIONS AS A CANDIDATE I SENT IN A THIRD-PERIOD I NEVER HEARD A WORD FROM BILLY AND I SAT HERE TWICE.

I SET ON EVERY COMMITTEE MEETING, AND I NEVER HEARD A WORD FROM BILLY, INDIGO, ABOUT NEEDING MORE MONEY TO KEEP THE

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GOLF COURSE AND PLAYABLE CONDITION.

WHEN YOU COME TO SPEAK WE WILL DISCUSS THAT.

>> I WOULD WANT TO .1 THING OUT. SOMEONE LIKES OUR GOLF COURSE.

FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS, ON AVERAGE, 44,000 ROUNDS PER YEAR PLAYED AT THE GOLF COURSE, FROM 49,0002 INCREASING.

SO SOMEONE LIKES THE GOLF COURSE TO PLAY LIKE THAT.

FROM JANUARY 1 THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 25% WE HAVE HAD AN INCREASE OF ROUNDS OVER THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME.

AND, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM BILLY.

THEIR LETTER IS RIGHT ON. WHAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT IS MONEY. THIS IS ALL ABOUT MONEY.

WHAT I HEARD ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WE WANT TO CUT TAXES.

WHAT I HEARD IN COMMISSION MEETINGS WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO ROLE BUDGETS. WE ARE TALKING HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY.

MY NEIGHBORHOOD, LET'S TAKE MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE IS ONE GUY WHO'S GRASS IS UNBELIEVABLE.

IT IS BEAUTIFUL. IT IS MAGNIFICENT.

HE IS OUT THERE EVERY WEEKEND. THE REST OF US, WE DO IT BUT IT IS OKAY. WHAT WE HAVE TO DECIDE, AND BECAUSE HE PUTS THE TIME AND EFFORT INTO IT, HE HAS A BEAUTIFUL LONG. IF YOU WANT A BEAUTIFUL LAWN IT IS TIME, MONEY AND EFFORT. WE WANT TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANT THIS GOLF COURSE TO BE. IS IT AN AMENITY.

IT'S A FUN GOLF COURSE AND WE ARE VALUED.

WE ARE NOT PREMIUM PRICE. IT'S FUN FOR PEOPLE TO PLAY.

I WENT THROUGH A BUNCH OF THINGS AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

THIS IS WHAT CITY COMMISSION WILL PUT IN AND WE WILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE MARINA AND AND IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO SPEND IN THE GOLF COURSE.

I WANT TO HEAR INDIGO SPEAK. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER.

>> IN 2015, THE CITY KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD TO WHERE WE WERE $15 MILLION IN THE WHOLE. THIS IS GETTING TO THE MONEY ISSUE. JUST THIS YEAR, WE ALL OF A SUDDEN DECIDED, THIS WAS A CRISIS NODDING POLLUTED IN THE PLAN. SO, GOING ALONG WITH WHAT CHIP SAID, WE HAVE A 27 HOLE COURSE. AND I AGREE MANY PEOPLE PLAY THAT. I THINK YOU PLAYED THE GOLF COURSE. SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE.

AND PUMP MONEY IN THE GOLF COURSE WHICH WE HAVE BEEN DOING CONSISTENTLY AND DEFER, THE FACILITIES, AND WE DON'T HAVE

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THAT MONEY I THINK THERE ARE A LOT THAT ARE SAYING WE DON'T HAVE THE GOLD STANDARD. IT HAS 100 MEMBERS.

WILL WE DEFER THOSE ARE QUESTIONS WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

I MANAGED A COLLEGE IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT WHEN I MANAGE THE FACILITY AND SOMETHING WAS WRONG I WOULD GO TO THE GUYS AND SAY YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE SPIRIT THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

WHEN I WENT TO THE GOLF COURSE AND I HAD A MEETING, THE FENCE WAS FALLING DOWN. RIGHT OUTSIDE IN THE DRIVE.

THE PLACE LOOK TRASHY. THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SITE MANAGER. THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY.

THIS IS A COMPLEX THING. THERE ARE NO GOOD GUYS BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO THE BAD GUYS ARE, HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE WILLING TO PUT IN THERE. WE BOUGHT EQUIPMENT WHEN THEY ASKED FOR IT. WE ASKED FOR TRACERS.

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE ALL OF MY IDEAS BUT WE HAVE 100 MEMBERS.

>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO START BY IDENTIFYING ONE OF THE MEMBERS. HE SAID HE WOULD NOT PAY $45.

THE GOOD NEWS IS HE DOESN'T HAVE TO.

WE DON'T PAY OR CHARGE THAT. LAST WEEK AT OUR CITY COURSE, I THINK IT WAS THE BEST VALUE WE HAVE ANYWHERE.

AND FOR THAT, THAT IS WHY I'VE PLAYED THE CITY COURSE.

I THINK IT CAN ALWAYS BE IMPROVED.

WHEN I SEE THE CITY COURSE AND GAPS, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT FOR WHAT IT IS I THINK IT IS A GREAT VALUE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE PLAY CURRENTLY WHICH IS SOMETHING I LIKE TO SEE. AND I'M GLAD WE HAVE IT.

THE QUESTION IS HOW GOOD DO WE WANT IT TO BE.

ARE WE GOING TO COMPETE WITH THE RITZ-CARLTON KNOW THAT WOULD CAUSE US TO RAISE RATES. IT'S A PLACE WHERE WE CAN PLAY GOLF WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO THAT IS WHY WE HAVE IT.

THOSE WHO NEED THIS THIS IS WHERE THEY PLAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF RAISING TAXES.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF RAISING TAXES I'M HAPPY I WANT TO MAKE IT BETTER I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE LAST COMMENT.

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THEN WE WILL HAVE INDIGO. THEN WE WILL TAKE A RESOURCE.

>> IT WILL BE THE FOUR OF US. WE ARE TAKING $200,000 PER YEAR OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE GOLF COURSE IF WE WANT TO

CONTINUE,. >> WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, WE CAN GO DOWN THAT PATH. I BELIEVE THE SOLUTION IS, INSTEAD OF HAVING THE GOLF COURSE DETERIORATE, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN, WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO KEEP IT AT ITS CURRENT STATE. THAT IS ONE PROBLEM.

ONE PROBLEM WE NEED TO ADDRESS. NUMBER TWO, SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING. HOW DOES A GOLF COURSE LOSE

MONEY ON A DESERTED ISLAND? >> YES, IT IS NOT INTENDED TO COMPETE WITH THE RITZ-CARLTON. IT'S NOT INTENDED TO COMPETE WITH AMELIA RIVER. I WAS A GOLF WRITER FOR 25 YEARS. I HAVE PLAYED A LOT OF MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSES. I CAN TELL YOU, I AM PERSONALLY EMBARRASSED BY THE SOUTH NINE. THAT IS AN EMBARRASSMENT.

WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT INSTEAD OF IGNORING THE PROBLEM.

>> THAT WAS A SHORT FIVE MINUTE. >> WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.

INDIGO GOLF IS HERE AND YOU HAVE BEFORE SIR.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. >> THANK YOU FOR OFFERING YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHY THE GOLF COURSE IS RELATED SPIRIT PART OF THE PROCESS HAS TO BE GET ALL OF THE FACTS.

THEN RENDER A DECISION. >> ONE SECOND CAN YOU RESTATE

YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MY NAME IS TONY CHANCEY.

MY ADDRESS IS 5634 BURSAE LANE, AND THE BEAUTY CITY OF FLORIDA.

>> >> IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, YOU MADE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT A FEW THINGS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL OF THE FACT THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE MGA, GOING FROM 300-100 MEMBERS. THE MAJORITY OF THE CHANGE HAS BEEN DUE TO LESS PLAYERS AND GETTING OLDER.

THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE CLUB HAS INCREASED SPIRIT THAT HAS

INCREASED OVER TIME. >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO THE

PUBLIC. >> I UNDERSTAND, BUT JUST SO THE ATTENDEES AND EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MEN'S CLUB OR A MEMBERSHIP AT THE GOLF COURSE.

>> SURE. WE OFFER MEMBERSHIPS TO THE GOLF COURSE THAT COULD BE ANYBODY. THAT IS WHAT YOU REFERENCE GOING TO THE CHANGE BUT THERE HAS BEEN AN OVERALL INCREASE BUT THERE

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WAS A DECREASE. THE MAIN BEING ATTRITION.

THE USDA REPORTS, THAT WE SENT TO YOU, AND THAT YOU MENTIONED, YOU HAD NOT SEEN, THOSE WERE ORDERED BY THE CITY THEY OFFERED A CONSOL. WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS WE HAD NOT BEEN IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE TEN YEARS WE'VE BEEN HERE, WHEN WE ARE ASKED TO DO PRESENTATIONS WE DO. WE HAVE COME IN, BEFORE, FOR A WORKSHOP PRESENTATION IF WE WERE ASKED.

IF WE HAVEN'T BEEN ASKED, WE DO NOT COME IN.

JUST SO YOU ARE CLEAR ON WHY WE HAVE NOT BEEN HERE, THAT HAS BEEN THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE WORKED UNDER.

>> AS YOU SAW THE GOLF COURSE GENERATE AND YOU FIGHT THIS BATTLE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE PAPERS INDICATE, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH GROUNDS CREW MEMBERS YOU DON'T HAVE THE CITY MANAGER KNOWS WHAT HE KNOWS IF YOU KNOW WHAT, I MEAN, AS COMMISSIONER ROSS MENTIONED. OUR PLAN, THAT YOU ALLUDED TO IS

NOT WORKING. >> IT DEPENDS ON, WHAT THAT PLAN IS FOR. WE CAN MAKE -- I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUT WOULD YOU KEEP YOUR PRICES LOW, BUT YOUR TURF MANAGEMENT WILL BE CAPPED AT A LEVEL, TO THAT STANDARD ONLY.

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THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE, -- YOU WILL NOT HAVE PERFECT GRASS ALL OVER THE PLACE. THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT AGRONOMIC PLAN BEING INADEQUATE, UNLESS, YOUR EXPECTATION IS MUCH HIGHER.

THEN YES, YOU WOULD BE CORRECT. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE HOPE THAT, PEOPLE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE CONSULTANTS SO THEY CAN HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE.

>> COMMISSIONER ALSO GENERAL QUESTION?

>> BUT BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LET YOUR WALLET BE YOUR GUIDE IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

>> CORRECT. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT.

WE OPERATE 160 GOLF COURSES NATIONWIDE.

WE HAVE MANY GOLF COURSES THAT ARE AT A LEVEL WHERE WE ARE AT FERNANDINA BEACH. WE HAVE SOME AND A LEVEL THAT IS MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT. AND EVEN MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT.

WE DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS. IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH, YOUR EXPECTATION FOR THE GOLF COURSE. WE HAVE MANY TREES THAT NEED TO COME DOWN. YOU CANNOT GROW WARM GRASS WHICH AID ON IT CONSTANTLY. YOU CANNOT DO IT.

NO ONE CAN DO THAT. SO, I AM SURE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO CUT TREES DOWN, IT IS NOT THERE.

>> SO EVERYWHERE THAT WE HAVE GRASS, THAT IS IN THE SHADE, FOR THE BULK OF THE DAY, IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO KEEP UP, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE 44,000 FOOTPRINTS OR 88,000 FOOTPRINTS ON IT IN THE COURSE OF A YEAR. THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT.

THE $200,000 WE TALKED ABOUT THE BULK OF IT HAS BEEN FOR DEBT SERVICE THIS IS THAT SERVICES THAT NEVER GO AWAY.

>> WITH THE CITY DOES EVERY YEAR, THE DEBT SERVICE IS A LITTLE OVER $200,000 PER YEAR. THAT WILL END THIS YEAR.

YOU ARE CORRECT ON THAT. HOWEVER, THE CITY ONCE PER YEAR DOES WHAT THEY CALL A TRANSFER. THEY TRANSFER HIM TO MAKE THE HOLE AND THEN THEY TAKE IT AWAY. SO THAT IS ADDED UP IN THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1.6 AND $1.9 MILLION.

WHEN YOU DIVIDE THAT, IT IS ANOTHER $200,000 PER YEAR.

ALTHOUGH THE GOLF COURSE, THAT IS GOING AWAY, IT IS STILL 200-

$300,000. >> I BELIEVE OUR BUDGET, AND CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, I BELIEVE OUR BUDGET IS, IS CLOSE

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TO BREAKEVEN AFTER, -- OR BEFORE DEBT SERVICE 42021.

THAT IS WITH A VALUE WE HAVE THIS WILL TAKE THE GOLF COURSE TO THE NEXT LEVEL BUT WE NEED FINANCIAL SUPPORT $1.7 MILLION.

OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THAT IS JUST IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET. THEY SHOULD BREAK EVENING.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU DID INCLUDE THIS IN YOUR LETTER THIS IS COMPARABLE TO OTHER GOLF COURSES.

TWO OF THEM ARE COUNTRY CLUBS. OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN AFFORD IT.

BUT THEY INCLUDED OKAY LAW GOLF CLUB AND BEEN CREEK GOLF COURSE.

THEY EXTEND THIS BY THE ACRE. AND WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS COMPARISON I THOUGHT, OKAY LOVE WAS THE CLOSEST COMPARABLE GOLF COURSE IF YOU THINK BEEN CREEK LET ME KNOW.

SO BY COMPARISON, OKAY LAW, SPENDS 54-71 -- TRACK 541 THAT IS $1,500 DIFFERENCE ON MAINTENANCE.

SO, OF THE FIVE GOLF COURSES, WE SPEND THE LEAST.

AND WHEN YOU SPIN THE LEASE, YOU WILL GET WHAT HAPPENS.

JUST TO MAINTAIN THE GOLF COURSE.

YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE TREES IS CORRECT.

AND THE TREE PROBLEM, HAS EXISTED BEFORE THEY TOOK OVER THE INSURANCE. THE TREES WERE THERE.

THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN PROVEN. THE DEAD TREES HAVE NEVER BEEN REMOVED. AND, NO VIABLE ALTERNATIVES HAVE BEEN OFFERED. WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OUTSIDE OF THE COMMISSION MEETING BUT THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES.

THERE ARE THE WAY, REDOING THE WHOLE SPIRIT SO THOSE ARE NOT

ROUGH ALTERNATIVES. >> OR TREE MITIGATION.

>> CORRECT. WHICH IS THE STANDARD WAY.

>> THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THAT. JUST TWO QUESTIONS.

SO ONE, THE MERGER, WILL THAT IMPACT OUTSIDE GOLF MANAGEMENT GOING FORWARD. INDIGO.

>> INDIGO IS AN ENTITY. SO, THE GENTLEMAN YOU SEE HERE, MYSELF, ALL OF THE MANAGEMENT EXECUTIVE TEAM, EVERYTHING STAYS

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IN PLACE. CHANGE YOU WANT TO BE PART OF

THIS. >> THEY HAVE SEVERAL ENTITIES THAT THEY OWN. BUT, WE ARE GOING TO REMAIN AS AN ENTITY AS AN OPERATING ENTITY.

AND YOU WILL NOT FEEL ANYTHING NEGATIVE FROM THE ACQUISITION.

IF ANYTHING YOU WILL FEEL SOMETHING POSITIVE.

THIS WILL ONLY BE A POSITIVE TONE FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS THE GOLF COURSE MANAGER HAS BEEN IN THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE MANAGER.

SHE'S BEEN RUNNING THE GOLF COURSE.

THERE ARE LESS THAN 30 DAYS IN THE CONTRACT.

WHAT ARE THE PLANS WE DO HAVE SOMEONE WHO VERBALLY ACCEPTED THE POSITION. HE HAS BEEN IN THE ORGANIZATION MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER.

HE IS AWARE OF THE SITUATION AND UNDERSTANDS THE FACT THAT WE ARE ON A 60 DAY CONTRACT AT THIS POINT WHICH, I ENCOURAGE US TO GET PAST THAT IF WE COULD. THAT IS THE REASON WE DON'T LIKE SHORT-TERM CONTRACTS. IT PROVIDES 0 SECURITY FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THEY WILL LOOK ELSEWHERE FOR EMPLOYMENT.

IT TAKES AS MUCH AS 60-90 DAYS TO GET SOMEONE HIRED IN A ROLE AS A GM THESE DAYS, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE NOT FROM THE AREA.

GET THERE LEAVE ANOTHER JOB PROVIDING NOTICE AND HAVE TO MOVE. THAT IS WHY IT DOES TAKE TIME IN BETWEEN HIRES. WHAT WE DO HAVE HERE, AND WHILE THE MANAGER MAY BE THE MANAGER ON DUTY AT THE FACILITY, THE GENTLEMAN BEHIND US ARE IN CONSTANT CONTACT ABOUT THE OPERATION OF THE GOLF COURSE. IT IS OUR PLATFORM IF YOU WILL THAT IS TECHNICALLY OPERATING THE GOLF COURSE.

THEY ARE EXECUTING EVERYTHING AS WELL AS OUR REGIONAL TEAM.

>> CAN YOU TELL ME, HOW OFTEN WAS INDIGO AT THE SITE.

>> I WILL DEFER. >> HALF OF A DOZEN TIMES.

>> I HEARD OTHERWISE. BUT THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE ANSWER.

>> I DO NOT WANT TO BANG ON INDIGO.

WE WANT THIS TO WORK. AS I SAID, A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE SITUATIONS RESOURCES. THAT IS OUR JOB.

>> WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE AS WE HAVE, AND WE WORK WITH NUMEROUS COMMISSIONS AND MANAGERS, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF THE YEARS.

WE HAVE TRIED TO BE A HELPFUL PARTNER AND ASSISTING IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN. WE ARE HERE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WE WANT TO BE HERE AT FERNANDINA BEACH AND CONTINUE THIS ARRANGEMENT.

WE THINK WE CAN. WE THINK WE CAN MAKE PROGRESS.

ALL WE ARE ASKING IS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

SO, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME YOU HAVE GIVEN US.

>> WHERE ARE YOU IN THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY

MANAGER? >> WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, OBVIOUSLY AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT IN THE LAST 30 DAYS WITHOUT OUR TRANSACTIONS.

NOW THAT, THAT IS OVER WE HAVE GATHERED TOGETHER OUR GROUP RIGHT HERE AS YOU HAVE TODAY. WE ARE HAMMERING OUT THE FINER POINTS OF THE AGREEMENT. THE PLAN IS, TO TALK WITH MR. MARTIN AND RESERVE SOME TIME TO GO OVER THE AGREEMENT.

I WOULD SAY, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHIN THE NEXT WEEKS

WITH NO TROUBLE AT ALL. >> I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF AS ONE MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION. IN YOUR NEGOTIATION, AT THE VERY

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LEAST I WOULD SAY WE WANT YOU TO CLICK WITH THE ASSOCIATED COST TO MAKE NUMBER ONE PLAYABLE, GROW GRASS ON NUMBER TWO, O NUMBER EIGHT, IS TOTALLY -- YOU HAVE AT LEAST THREE HOLES.

THEY REALLY NEED WORK. SO WHAT WOULD YOUR PLANT, IN A NEW CONTRACT GOING FORWARD, AND WENT RESOURCES, DOES THIS COMMISSION NEED TO PROVIDE YOU IN ORDER TO GET THE SOUTH NINE PLAYABLE? I'M JUST SAYING NORMAL PLAYABLE.

THE CITY GOLF COURSE SHOULD BE ONE DOWN FROM A BIG ONE.

THAT IS FAIR. IF YOU COULD DO THAT IN YOUR NEGOTIATIONS THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> WE WILL DO THAT, AND WE WILL OUTLINE THAT TWO SPECIFIC

STANDARDS. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS?

>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES, NOT THE BACK NINE.

>> NOT THE BACK NINE. >> SOUTH NINE.

WHATEVER. I WILL WANT TO BRING IT UP BRIEFLY WHAT DIRECTION DOES THE CITY COMMISSION WANT TO GO.

THE FIRST TOPIC IS, YOU CAN STAY RIGHT THERE.

THIS WILL TAKE ME 4 MINUTES. THE FIRST POLICY DISCUSSION IS WE WILL DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS.

WE NEED TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER GUIDANCE ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

WE WANT TO RENEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT OR SELECT A NEW OPERATOR. DO WE WANT THE CITY TO OPERATE THE COURSE OR DO WE WANT TO LEASE IT.

WE NEED TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER, WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO DO. WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE CONFIGURATION OF THE GOLF COURSE.

TWENTY-SEVEN HOLES, I AM NOT SO SURE THAT IS VIABLE.

AND VICE MAYOR KREGER HAS BROUGHT THAT UP MANY TIMES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS OR ISN'T BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE DO.

I PERSONALLY, SPENT TIME ON THIS AND I HAVE READ THE REPORTS.

I'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT, NINE HOLES, THE TOP TRACER AND THE DRIVING RANGE IS PROBABLY VIABLE.

TWENTY-SEVEN HOLES, I AM NOT SURE IT'S VIABLE.

NOT AT THE MONEY WE WANT TO SPEND.

I AM NOT A GOLF GUY. I DON'T KNOW THESE THINGS.

BUT I AM COMING TO THE CONCLUSION THEY SHOULD LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES. THE COMMUNITY HAS TO BE RECREATIONAL. WE WILL NOT SELL IT FOR HOUSES.

WE WON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT BUT IT IS RECREATION.

THAT IS THE SECOND ISSUE. THE THIRD ISSUE, AND THIS IS THE BIG ISSUE. WHAT TYPE OF GOLF COURSE DOES THIS COMMUNITY WANT. DO THEY WANT A FUN AND AFFORDABLE GOLF COURSE AND I LEARNED THIS.

PRICE PER AVERAGE ROUND. PARK,.

>> IT IS A METRIC. >> IT IS $16.

PEOPLE ARE PAYING $16 FOR A ROUND OF GOLF WHEN YOU ADD ALL OF THE REVENUE. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> IT SOUNDS ACCURATE. >> PEOPLE, WE ARE NOT PAYING A LOT. IT IS AN IMMUNITY FOR THE CITY.

WE HAVE TO DECIDE, SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID IT IS A GREAT GOLF EXPERIENCE OR DO WE WANT AMENITIES FOR THE CITY.

THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM.

EVEN IF YOU RAISE 25,000 ROUNDS. WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE RIDGE $50,000. IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO COVER THE COSTS. THE FOURTH IS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY SINCE 2012-2019, THE CITY HAS MOVED $1.9 MILLION IN THE GOLF COURSE. ALL OF THE YEARS AS YOU POINTED OUT THIS WILL GO AWAY. WE PUT ANOTHER 200,000.

THAT'S ON TOP OF THE AVERAGE WE PUT IN EVERY YEAR.

WELL THE NEXT TOPIC COMES TO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE CAPITAL

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FUND. WE BORROW FROM THE WASTEWATER PLANT. THEN WE MOVE THE MONEY AND PUT IT BACK. THE OTHERS HAVE SAID, YOU CANNOT CONTINUE TO DO THAT. THE CHECK HAS COME DUE.

WHAT WILL WE DO, TO PAY IT OFF OR ADVERTISE IT.

WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THIS COMMISSION HAS TO FIND OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE DATA FROM THE GOLF COURSE. I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE AND MAYBE YOU WILL WHERE WE TRANSFER MONEY BACK AND FORTH.

WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM IT COMES FROM OPERATING EXPENSES.

WE KNOW IT'S UNLIKELY THEY WILL MAKE WITH A NEED FOR WHATEVER REASON SPIRIT SO WHERE IS THE $310,000 GOING TO COME FROM THIS YEAR. WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST, WE PUT IT IN THERE AND TAKE IT FROM THE WASTEWATER FUN.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. I DON'T THINK IT IS FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE. WE NEED TO COME TO A CONSENSUS ON HOW TO MANAGE THE TRANSFERS, AND HOW TO MANAGE THIS YEAR'S ANTICIPATED SHORTFALL. FINALLY, IS THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR BASIC THINGS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IS $1.7 MILLION. WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM.

WHERE IS THE MONEY I HEARD DURING THE CAMPAIGN, WE WANT TO GO TO THE ROLLBACK RATE. THE MONEY HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. THIS CEMETERY MORE IMPORTANT.

THOSE ARE THE ISSUES WE NEED TO GIVE THE CITY DIRECTION ON.

THESE ARE NO-COST OPTIONS. YOU KNOW YOU WILL REDUCE YOUR EQUIPMENT COSTS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND THOSE ARE ISSUES. I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE, THE DIRECTION WAS SENT BY NOT NEGOTIATING THERE WAS A STUDY WHICH I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT WAS DELAYED UNTIL NOVEMBER.

NOW WE ARE NEGOTIATING AND IT PUTS US IN A BIND.

I'M SURE YOU HAVE SEEN IT, WHETHER THAT WILL BE A VIABLE SOLUTION, I HAVE MY DOUBTS. WHAT I DON'T THINK IT IS A TERRIBLE GOLF COURSE. I DON'T GOLF.

I HAVE LISTENED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THEY ARE FINE. IT STATEMENTS WILL GOLF COURSE.

TWO THIRDS OF THE MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSES ARE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS OR LOSING MONEY. I READ AND STUDY FROM SEATTLE WHICH IS A NEW STUDY, I THINK IT WAS 2018-2019 WHERE THEY HAVE

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TRIED EVERYTHING, AND THEY STILL ARE NOT.

WE AS A CITY, HOW DO WE DO THIS. I THINK WE WANT TO KEEP THE GOLF COURSE. THERE ARE OTHER USES.

VERY VIABLE USES. MOVE FORWARD, THEY WILL MAKE A PROPOSAL AND THIS WILL COME BACK AND WE WILL MAKE THAT DECISION.

GIVE THEM AN EXTENSION. AT ONE POINT, WE WANT TO SEPARATE THE CLUBHOUSE AND THOSE THINGS.

ALL OF THE TIMING, THERE ARE A LOT OF OPTIONS.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY YOU COULD CREATE THIS SPIRIT I FEEL WE ARE AT THIS POINT. I DON'T THINK YOU THINK TERRIBLE COURSE. I ALSO TALKED TO EXPERTS.

LOTS OF PEOPLE NOT AGENDAS. THE DIRECTIONS WHERE WE ARE AT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE CAN PUT THIS TOGETHER BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE 60 DAYS. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE NOT ABANDONED THE IDEA OF NEGOTIATING WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO GET A DEAL DONE. THAT IS STILL IN PROCESS.

>> THAT WON'T CHANGE UNLESS THIS IS HOW WE CONTINUE.

KEEP IN MIND. THE MAYOR SAID IT.

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO MANAGES THE GOLF COURSE, IF YOU DON'T SPEND THE MONEY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

THAT IS HOW IT IS. ALSO, WHEN IT COMES TO THINKING ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE WHEN IT COMES TO ALL OF THE HOLES, FROM DAILY OPERATIONS STANDPOINT, YOU DO NOT PICK UP A TON OF MONEY WHEN YOU GO FROM 272 20 HOLES. WHERE YOU PICK UP THE MONEY IS IN CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. SO FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS I DON'T THINK ABOUT IT, THERE ARE PIECES OF THE GOLF COURSE THAT HAVE AN AVERAGE LIFE SPAN.

BUNKERS HAVE AN AVERAGE LIFE SPAN.

GREENS HAVE A LIFESPAN. IRRIGATION.

IT IS A LIVING, BREATHING PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THEY ALL WEAR OUT EVENTUALLY. SO, NOT HAVING TO DO BUNKERS ON NINE HOLES OR GREENS ON NINE HOLES OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WHERE YOU WOULD PICK UP MORE MONEY OR LESS MONEY SPENT, THE DAILY OPERATION IS NOT THE BIG PIECE, I KNOW WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GIVING YOU WHAT IT MEANS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT FROM A CAPITAL PLAN PERSPECTIVE. I THINK I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND, WHAT THIS WOULD COST YOU OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME

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PROPERLY THESE ITEMS MAY GIVE YOU MORE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU MAY BE FACED WITH IN THE FUTURE.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. FIVE YEARS IS NOT ENOUGH.

YOU NEED TO GO 30 YEARS DOWN THE LINE OF WHAT A GOLF COURSE WILL TALK -- COST YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU NEED TO SWALLOW AND PROVIDING FUNDING OR FEAR ALLOCATING FUNDING IN THE FUTURE. CANDY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> COMMISSIONER THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

>> AS OF RIGHT NOW, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF SELLING, OR TAKING DOWN PART OR ALL OF OUR GOLF COURSE. I BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO REMAIN INTACT. I THINK IT SHOULD STAY TOGETHER THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT THE CITY GOLF COURSE AND THE ASSET WE LOVE AND APPRECIATE. I HAVE SEEN A GREAT DEAL OF TIMES, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY AS WE PIECE OUR ASSETS, THAT THEY MIGHT FALL INTO OTHER ENTITIES HANDS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I WANT TO SO I'M NOT CURRENTLY IN FAVOR OF SUCH A PLAN. WITH THAT, I CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER KREGER WE NEED TO FOLLOW THE COURSE WE HAVE ALREADY SET WITH NOT -- 0 NO STONES TO MAKE SURE THE NOTION THAT SHREK NEGOTIATIONS GO WELL. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> NO ONE'S TALKING ABOUT SELLING THE GOLF COURSE.

WE NEED FIVE CITY COMMISSIONERS TO AGREE TO A CHART AMENDMENT AND 70% OF THE ELECTIVE TO AGREE.

THE GOLF COURSE WAS NEVER GOING TO BE SOLD.

I DON'T SUPPORT IT. I DON'T THINK ANYONE ELSE DOES.

LET'S PUT THAT TO REST. TAKE THE NEXT CRITICAL ISSUE, WE HAVE A GOLF COURSE. WHAT THIS BOILS DOWN TO, WOULD ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY AND HOW. THE CAPITAL COSTS, ALL OF THESE THINGS, IS NOT ONE THING, IT'S HOW YOU WILL PAY FOR IT GOING OVER TIME. I SUPPORT THE GOLF COURSE.

I'VE BEEN TO EVERY MEETING, AND READ ALL OF THE REPORTS, I SUPPORT THE GOLF COURSE. BUT AS A COMMUNITY BUT WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE WANT TO SPEND ON THE GOLF COURSE AND WHERE THE MONEY WILL COME FROM THE LETTER SAYS, WE GAVE YOU A PLAN WITH THE BUDGET YOU GAVE US.

WHAT KIND OF BUDGET DO WE NEED GOING FORWARD.

THE FIVE OF US ARE YOU GOING TO RAISE TAXES I'M NOT ADVOCATING THAT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE I

MAKE MY REMARKS? >> MY FINAL REMARKS.

AND THANK YOU AGAIN. >> THANK YOU.

>> SO LET ME ADDRESS THE PRESENTATION.

EACH ONE, SO POLICY DISCUSSION. THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE 27 HOLES. WHAT NO ONE HAS MENTIONED IS THERE ARE TWO COMMUNITIES AND I LIVE IN ONE OF THEM.

THAT IS NOT WHY I AM SAYING THIS BUT MY COMMUNITY, WAS BUILT AS A GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY. IT IS ON THE GOLF COURSE.

YOU CLOSE THIS AND ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS NO LONGER HAVE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY. WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WILL DO TO THEIR HOME VALUE? CITY MANAGER ALSO LIVE IN THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAT IS ON THE GOLF COURSE.

YOU CLOSE THAT AND THEY NO LONGER HAVE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY. SO, YOU CAN CLOSE NINE HOLES,

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BUT YOU WILL HAVE TWO COMMUNITIES RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM. AND AS INDIGO INDICATED, AS EACH REPORT SAID, CLOSING NINE HOLES DOES NOT SAVE YOU A BUNCH OF MONEY. IN FACT, THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT, YOU OPERATE 18 HOLES, LEAVING ONE OF THE NINE HOLES TO REST AND RECOVER. THAT IS FROM CAR TRAFFIC, GOLF TRAFFIC. YOU ONLY OPERATE 18 HOLES.

THAT IS NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO ON THE POLICY DECISION. I HAVE HEARD COMMISSIONERS SAY THIS BEFORE. SOME OF THEM SITTING HERE WITH ME THAT WE HIRE CONSULTANTS AND WE NEVER FOLLOW THEIR ADVICE.

SO WE HIRED THE USGA IN 2013. HERE WAS THEIR ADVICE.

FOUR STEPS DEFINE THE EXPECTATIONS FOR GOLF COURSE.

DEFINE THE EXPECTATIONS. NUMBER TWO, DEVELOP A PLAN TO MEET THOSE OBJECTIVES MAKE SURE FUNDING AND STAFF CAN MEET THESE OBJECTIVES, REALLOCATE RESOURCES FROM LOWER PRIORITY AREAS, CHANGE THE BUDGET OR STAFF, REDUCE EXPECTATIONS TO MEET THOSE OBJECTIVES. NUMBER FOUR, IMPLEMENT THE PLAN.

READING ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS, THE CITY HAS NEVER AGREED ON A PLANT NOR IMPLEMENTED A PLAN. THE REASON WE SPENT MORE THAN AN HOUR ON THIS TOPIC IS BECAUSE WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO MAKE A DECISION.

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME THE FIVE OF US CAN SPEAK.

THAT IS WHY WE ARE DOING THIS. ON NUMBER FOUR, ON THE SUBSIDY, AND THE WASTEWATER FUND, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO.

YOU CAN'T TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE WASTEWATER UTILITY FUN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY BACK BUT LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE 1.7 MILLION THAT WE TOOK OUT OF THE GOLF COURSE.

AND WE NEVER PAID IT BACK. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, ALL OF US HAVE MET WITH THE AUDITORS.

I ASKED THE AUDITORS ABOUT THE DEBT.

CURIOUS WHAT THEY SAID. WE CAN FORGIVE IT, NO PROBLEM.

THIS IS ALL UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE CITY.

ALL YOU ARE DOING IS PLAYING AND PUSHING MONEY AROUND.

THE AUDITOR SAID WE CAN FORGIVE THIS THAT AND THERE WOULD BE NO

PROBLEM. >> I THINK THAT IS MY LAST COMMENT ON THAT. THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO LOWER THE MAINTENANCE TO THE GOLF COURSE FOR INDIGO MENTION BUMPERS. BUMPERS ARE ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE COMPONENTS TO MAINTAIN.

SO IF THESE ARE ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE REDUCE THE NUMBER OF BUNKERS. TAKE THIS OUT.

MILITANT. TAKE CARE OF THE BUMPER.

LOOK AT THE 27 HOLES AND DECIDE WHICH BUMPERS NEED TO BE ELIMINATED. THERE ARE MORE THINGS WE CAN'T DO, SUCH AS THAT TO REDUCE THE COST.

WE JUST NEED TO PAY ATTENTION AND WORK WITH THE EXPERTS AND HAVE THEM SAY, HOW DO WE REDUCE OUR COSTS.

THAT IS ONE EXAMPLE AND I COULD GO ON AND ON.

BUT IN THE SPIRIT OF TIME, MR. ROSS WOULD LIKE THE FINAL

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WORD. LAUGHTER.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ONE IMPORTANT POINT, WE CANNOT FORGIVE THAT THAT. BUT WE CAN DO IS TAKE MONEY AND PUT IT IN THE GOLF COURSE AND REDUCE THE MONEY IN THE WASTEWATER BY THAT AMOUNT OF FUN.

YOU ARE TAKING MONEY FROM A FUND.

YOU ARE NOT TAKING IF YOU'RE SPENDING IT TO PAY OFF THE DEBT.

THIS IS THE TECHNICALITY. WHEN TAKEN MONEY IMPENITENT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU FOR GOOD DISCUSSION

>> THERE'S $15 MILLION IN THE WATER FUND.

MINUS THE MARINA AND THE GOLF COURSE.

SO WHEN YOU TAKE THAT MONEY, AND GIVE IT TO THE MARINA, AND YOU GIVE IT TO THE GOLF COURSE, AND YOU ALLOW OUR OTHER FACILITIES TO CARRY THE DEBT, THAT BECOMES A PROBLEM.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSTER LIGHT IS ON.

>> THERE'S $50 MILLION AND THAT. BUT SUMMONS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. BEFORE WE TAKE ANY MONIES TAKEN OUT WE NEED TO HAVE OUR WASTEWATER FUNDED GOING FORWARD.

THINK YOU CAN TALKED ABOUT THE RESOURCES.

SO THERE'S NOT $50 MILLION SITTING IN THEIR I BELIEVE.

IT IS THEREFORE GOOD REASON AND WE NEED TO KEEP TOILETS FLUSHING

AND WATER RUNNING. >> DISCUSSION OVER QUARKS DUST

[5.6 CITY COMMISSION RULES OF PROCEDURE]

TRACK? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> ARNOLD COMMISSIONER ROSS HAS READ THE DOCUMENT AND MADE SEVERAL EDITS.

I WILL BROUGHT THE THOUGHT OF WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUSH THIS TO THE NEXT DISCUSSION GIVEN THE TIME, OR DO WE NEED TO DEAL WITH RULES AND PROCEDURES TONIGHT?

>> I HAVE TIME TONIGHT. >> VICE MAYOR?

>> I READ IT AND I ONLY NEED A MOTIONS, OTHERWISE I HAVE NO

PROBLEM WITH THIS. >> CAN YOU POINT ME TOO WHAT

SECTION THAT IS? >> I THINK IT IS ON AMENDING A

MOTION. >> JUST TO REMIND YOU ALL, TONIGHT THE SURVEYOR, -- MR. MAYOR, THIS IS ON THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT SO IF WE DO MAKE ANY CHANGES IT WILL COME

BACK AS A RESOLUTION. >> VICE MAYOR, I AM WONDERING WITH THE ABSENCE OF A COMMISSIONER CAN WE PUSH IT.

MR. ROSS ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? >> I'M GOOD.

>> WHY DON'T YOU EXPLAIN THAT. >> CURRENTLY, THE WAY WE DO THIS, SOMEONE MAKES A MOTION, AND LET'S SAY VICE MAYOR KREGER MAKES A MOTION TO SELL THE CITY HALL FOR $500.

THEN ANOTHER COMMISSIONER GIVES A SECOND.

THEN COMMISSIONER STURGIS DOES NOT LIKE IT AND NOW WE HAVE EIGHT MOTION. HE SAYS, NO, I AM WILLING TO SELL CITY HALL FOR $500 BUT I WANT TO SELL IT FOR $200.

THE WAY WE DO THAT NOW, AND I WILL VOTE FOR THAT BUT NOT THE $500, NOW HE HAS TO LOOK AT THE TWO OF YOU AND SAY TO VICE MAYOR KREGER ARE YOU WILLING TO DO THAT.

THEN HE SAYS NO. BUT THE OTHER THREE WANT TO DO THAT AND YOU HAVE TO VOTE THAT DOWN AND COME BACK FOR ANOTHER

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VOTE. THE WAY IT'S DONE IN EVERY OTHER BODY INCLUDING THE SENATE AND HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU MAKE A MOTION, MAKE A SECOND, COMMISSIONER STURGIS SAYS, I WANT TO AMEND IT TO $200 AND COMMISSIONER ROSS SAYS I SECOND. THEN YOU VOTE ON THE MOTION OF THE AMENDMENT THE $200 VERSUS A $500, SO IF IT PASSES WE ARE AT $200 INSTEAD OF THE $500. SO, IT IS A PROCEDURAL THING THAT IS CLEANER SO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO UNDO WHAT YOU DO AND COME BACK. THIS IS THE WAY EVERY BODY I WORKED WITH DOES. AND TAMMI I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU

WILL SAY. >> IF YOU DID, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT BE HERE. YOU SHOULD BE DOING MUCH BETTER.

>> I HAD NO IDEA WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU STILL WILL GO BACK AND VOTE ON A

MOTION. >> THE MAIN MOTION WOULD BE $200

INSTEAD OF $500. >> KNOW, WHEN YOU VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT RIGHT. YOU ARE VOTING ON AN AMENDMENT, THEN YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE $500.

>> THEN YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON SELLING CITY HALL AT $200

INSTEAD OF $500. >> SO IF IT SELLS FOR $200 --

>> IT GOES BACK TO $500. >> IF PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK THEY

CAN SPEAK. >> HANG ON ONE SECOND PERIOD.

>> YES, PLEASE SPEAK. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OF

RECORD. >> THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING.

>> I'M LISTENING TO ALL OF THIS ARE MARY AND PHYLLIS.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE NASSAU EDUCATION.

I LIVE AT 724 SOUTH SIXTH STREET IN YOUR TEN FEAR PART OF PROCEDURE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURES. WHEN I'M IN A UNION MEETING, ESPECIALLY IN A LARGE GOVERNING BODY WHEN SOMEONE MAKES A MOTION, SOMEONE SECOND THE MOTION.

IF IT FAILS FOR A SECOND, THEN YOU GO BACK AND START OVER.

BUT IF SOMEONE 2ND AND SAYS, I'D LIKE THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, THAT IS HOW WE DO IT.

THAT IS FOLLOWING PROCEDURE. WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S THE PARLIAMENTARIAN SITS ON THE MEETINGS AND TELLS US IF WE ARE MAKING A MISTAKE. I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE TAMMI WHO WOULD DO THAT. I JUST WANTED TO OFFER THAT.

>> THAT IS WHAT WE DO NOW. >> WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS, IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT WHEN THEY MAKE THE AMENDMENT THEY DISCUSS THE AMENDMENT AND THEY VOTE ON IT.

>> UNDER DISCUSSION. JAMES DEVELIN ON THE AMENDMENT THEN THEY GO BACK TO THE MAIN MOTION WHICH IS AMENDED.

THAT IS WHAT YOU VOTE ON. >> THEY CALL IT A FRIENDLY

AMENDMENT. >> WHILE IT MAY NOT BE SO

FRIENDLY. >> SHE IS ADVOCATING WHAT I AM

PROPOSING. >> IT TAKES EXPERIENCE.

PEOPLE WHO SIT IN MEETINGS DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS STUFF.

PARLIAMENTARIAN PROCEDURES SOMETIMES NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED TO PEOPLE. THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

>> BUT AT THE END OF ALL OF THIS, THE CITY CHAIR WILL SAY, THIS IS THE MOTION WE WILL VOTE ON SO IT IS CLEAR TO EVERYONE IF IT IS AN AMENDED MOTION OR THE MAIN ONE.

BEFORE WE VOTE WE SAY HERE IS THE MOTION, WHICH IS ONE OF THE

PROPOSALS IN HERE. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. >> I AM FINE WITH THAT.

MY ONLY ISSUE IS, THE NO LIMIT TO DEBATE.

THERE'S NO WAY TO LIMIT THE DEBATE WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT WOULD STOP, WE DO NOT WANT, I BELIEVE IF WE PASS IT AS WRITTEN WE ARE ENCOURAGING FILIBUSTERS.

IT TAKES AWAY THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIMIT.

WE NEVER DO IT. BUT IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY, SOMEONE COULD TALK UNTIL WE HAVE TO GO HOME THEN NOTHING WOULD EVER PASS. I DON'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE FILIBUSTERS. I AM OPPOSED TO THE NO LIMITS.

>> HOW ABOUT IF WE HAVE A SUPER MAJORITY TO CLOSE THE DEBATE.

>> THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR.

>> AFTER EXPLAINING IT I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH LIGHT.

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I UNDERSTAND FILIBUSTER AND I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING HERE.

BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. I WOULD RECOMMEND WE MOVE FORWARD AND DISCUSSED IT AND VOTE ON IT.

>> A RESOLUTION THAT AS ALL OF COMMISSIONER ROSS' PROPOSED

PAGES. >> THAT'S FINE.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. >> THEN WE HAVE PROVISION 77.

>> SO THIS WILL BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

>> JANUARY 19. THANK YOU.

[5.7 MARINA ­- SLIP AGREEMENTS/RATES]

>> OKAY. ITEM 5.7 MARINA SLIP AGREEMENT RATES. THIS IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY THE MAYOR. I HAVE SEVERAL REQUESTS TO SPEAK

ON THIS IF THEY ARE STILL HERE. >> SO MR. PAUL.

>> GOOD EVENING SERVED WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR

THE RECORD. >> PAUL 2794 LONGBOAT DRIVE, FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA. MY ITEM WAS ACTUALLY FOR NUMBER FIVE, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS OFF OF THE AGENDA.

I CANNOT GET OUT REALLY QUICKLY. IT KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH THE THEME BUT IT IS NOT FOR THE SLIPS.

I THINK, FOR THE COMMISSION, AND FOR THE CITY, AND I HAVE BEEN HEARING IN THE BACK, THE WHOLE PIECE ABOUT THE CITY GOLF COURSE AND IT GOES ALONG WITH THE MARINA.

I GET THE WALLET WILL DRIVE WHERE THE MARINA WILL GO.

BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO LIGHT IS, IS NOT ONLY THE WALLET, WE WILL GO, IT IS POLITICALLY WOOD PIECES IN THE CITY OF YOUR ASSETS, DO WE WANT TO PUT THE MONEY INTO.

IT WILL COME DOWN TO THAT. YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF THE MONEY IN THE WORLD AND IT CAN GO TO THE MARINA OR THE GOLF COURSE.

BUT IF YOU POLITICALLY DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT, IT WILL NOT GO TO THE MARINA OR THE GOLF COURSE.

I HAVE KNOWN THAT FROM BEING ON THIS EARTH 58 YEARS.

SO, I GUESS WHEN I AM SAYING IS, IT HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE, WE NEED COLLABORATION WITH THE MARINA. WE NEED PARTNERSHIPS DEVELOPED THAT WILL GIVE THE MARINA DIFFERENT RESOURCES OTHER THAN RELYING ON THE RESOURCES WITH THE CITY.

BEFORE THERE WAS A LOT ON THIS ISLAND THERE WAS ALWAYS A MARINA. THERE IS A MARITIME HISTORY THAT IS ENTRENCHED HERE THAT HAS TO BE PRESERVED.

SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER THAT HAS TO BE PRESERVED.

I BELIEVE -- I AM NOT A GOLFER. I CAN TELL YOU THIS.

I AM NOT A BOULDER. I DON'T HAVE THE BOAT.

I HAVE BEEN DREAMING TO HAVE A BOAT AND HOPEFULLY I WILL HAVE ONE. I DO HAVE A ROWBOAT.

WE USED A RAMP THE OTHER DAY. BUT I GUESS WHAT I AM SAYING IS, THIS PERSON NATION OF STREET THAT IS OUT THERE.

WHEN YOU ARE ASKING ME AS A TAXPAYER, DO I WANT TO RAISE MY TAXES WERE CONSERVATION LAND I SAY TO YOU, TO THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, TO HAVE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PARCEL LAND OUT THERE IN THE WORLD. IT IS BEAUTIFUL.

WHY ARE WE NOT PRESERVING THAT FIRST BEFORE PRESERVING OTHER THINGS. OTHER PIECE OF LAND.

I GET IT THAT YOU WANT TO DO THAT, BUT AGAIN, IT IS STRESSING OURSELVES THEN. THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT.

SO, PRESERVE A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND OUT THERE FIRST.

STABILIZE IT. GIVE IT A SHORELINE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PIECE.

OUR GOVERNMENT, SO THE BEST XCD FEDERAL, WE'VE SUBSIDIZE EVERY DAY. IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU WANT TO SUBSIDIZE BEER I COULD BRING UP EXAMPLES ON WHAT WE SUBSIDIZE DOWNTOWN. EVERY TIME I BRING UP THE MARINA , WE PUT IT INTO A BAG AND WE SAY WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO.

THE LAST SPOT I WILL PRESENT HERE AND I WILL END, I CAME WITH THIS BEFORE, AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE BUILT A CONSERVATION FUND FOR

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LAND, CONSERVATION, YOU CAN DO A SIMILAR THING FOR THE MARINA.

BUILD A FUND. IN NANTUCKET, THEY RALLIED THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, THERE WAS A PERCENTAGE OF REAL ESTATE SALES BROUGHT IN TO PRESERVE THE LAND.

I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS THE SOLUTION.

FERNANDINA BEACH, BUT THERE ARE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS BUT IT TAKES THE LEADERSHIP TO GET OUT THERE AND START DEVELOPING PARTNERS.

THE LAST PARTNER I WILL MENTION AND IT IS MY MAIN THEME FOR TAXES FOR 2021, I AM NOT SURE THAT THE TAXES ARE AN ENDLESS POT OF MONEY. I KNOW YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO THEM BUT I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION I WILL END ON THIS, HAPPILY EVER GONE TO THE TDC AS A PARTNER, FOR THEM TO PUT MONEY INTO SOMETHING SUCH AS THE MARINA AS THEY HAVE IN OTHER ASSETS ON THE ISLAND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. >> BUKE YOU START THE CLOCK WHEN

WE HAVE SPEAKERS. >> THANK YOU.

>> I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. >> HE IS GONE.

>> ONE OF THE ANSWER IS YES. WE HAVE GONE TO THEM MANY TIMES.

>> MINNIS -- MR. DENNIS J. >> DENNIS J, I JUST TOPIC A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE CONTRACT THAT THE CITY SIGNED WITH OASIS MARINA. I BELIEVE THERE IS A PROVISION THAT SAYS, BUT CITY ATTORNEY MUST -- SHALL APPROVE THE SLIP AGREEMENT THAT OASIS COMES UP WITH.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THAT IS TRUE OR NOT.

>> I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY SLIP AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN

PROPOSED. >> IF THAT IS BOOKCASE AND THE PROVISION IS WITHIN THE CONTRACT.

I WOULD SAY THE SLIP AGREEMENT THAT OASIS MARINA SENT TO SLIP HOLDERS, IS INVALID IF THE CITY ATTORNEY DID NOT APPROVE IT.

TAKE SECONDLY THERE IS PROVISION WITHIN THE AGREEMENT WHICH SAYS, AT ITS SOLE OPTION, OASIS MARINA MAY TERMINATE AN AGREEMENT WITHIN TEN DAYS WITH ANY SLIP OLDER, FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER. BASICALLY THAT SAYS, OASIS CAN SAY TO ME, AS A LONG-TERM TAXPAYER, RESIDENT AND CITIZEN OF FERNANDINA BEACH AND LONGTIME SUPPORTER THAT, WE DO NOT LIKE YOU. GET OUT OF OUR MARINA.

ARE YOU ALL RIGHT WITH THAT? THAT IS MY QUESTION.

INCORPORATED YOU. >> ANY RESPONSE OR QUESTIONS FOR

MR. J? >> VICE MAYOR?

>> DOES THE CONTRACT SAY YOU MUST APPROVE? WE HAVE TO HAVE A WAY TO APPROVE THEM.

IF THEY ARE NOT BEING APPROVED, YOU NEED TO BE THERE.

I DO NOT KNOW WHAT CRITERIA YOU WILL APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE.

>> THERE ISN'T A CRITERIA. WHAT I DID WAS, THEY HAD AN AGREEMENT AND IT WAS ON LEGAL SIZED PAPER.

>> SO WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT? >> I APPROVED THE AGREEMENT, AND

ANY TIME THEY CHANGED IT. >> 0 ASUS HAS NOT SENT IT TO ME.

I JUST MOTIONED TO THE MANAGER. OASIS HAS NOT SENT IT TO ME.

SIMPLE AS THAT. WHEN I LOOK AT IT, FOR EXAMPLE IT SAYS WHAT THE TERM IS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THOSE AGREEMENTS, THERE ARE NO LONG-TERM -- WE DO HAVE LEASES WITH THE CITY BUT IT REQUIRES INSURANCE.

WE HAVE HAD ONLY ONE BUSINESS THAT SIGNED UP FOR THAT.

ALL OF THE REST OF THE SLIP AGREEMENTS ARE MONTH TO MONTH AT MOST. THEY CAN ALL BE TERMINATED AT WILL BY THE OPERATOR. FOR ANY REASON.

THAT WAS THE SAME WAY WITH THE OTHER ONE TOO.

>> THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR WORK CURRENTLY SOLDIERS IN THIS TRANSITION TO GET FIRST,

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FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, FIRST DIBS ON THE SLIP SPIRIT IF YOU ARE REVIEWING IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAD SLIPS BEFORE CONTINUE TO HAVE SLIPPED.

>> THE AGREEMENT AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT HERE BEFORE, THE WAY THE AGREEMENT READS RIGHT NOW THE CITY COMMISSION, THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND WE WANT THEM TO OPERATE THE MARINA LIKE A BUSINESS.

WE WANT TO GET OUT OF THE RED WITH THE MARINA.

WE DO HAVE DEPTH THERE. WE WANT TO INCREASE REVENUE AND HAVE AT IT OASIS. OASIS THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY SET THE RATES. THE CITY COMMISSIONER APPROVES THE BUDGET WHICH THE RATES ARE PART OF.

AND I GUESS WE WILL LOOK AT THAT OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

THE CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZED OASIS, THE COMMISSION WILL NOT MANAGE HOW THEY DEAL WITH TENNANT OR REFUSAL OR FIRST-COME FOR RESISTING LEASEHOLDERS. NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE MANAGERS HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY SAID. THEY SAID ONLY THINGS YOU NEED TO DO THE BEST YOU CAN FOR THE CITY.

THAT IS WHAT THEY WERE ASKED TO DO.

HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT. THAT WAS THE BEST TRACK WHAT

THEY WERE GIVEN. >> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR AND MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR ABOUT THE CONTRACT. THE CONTRACT WE SIGNED AS A CITY DOES NOT MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE GRANDFATHERED INTO THE SLIP

SPIRIT. >> THEY WOULD NOT BE GRANDFATHERED ANYWAY BECAUSE EVEN IF WEST TRACK WAS STILL HERE, THE AGREEMENT THAT I AND BRENT OVER, WAS A 30 DAY CONTRACT THAT COULD BE TERMINATED -- THAT I WENT OVER WAS 30 DAYS. THAT SOUNDS LIKE, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN THE OASIS CONTRACT THE SAME TERMS. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE FIVE-YEAR AGREEMENT THAT SAID THEY MUST HONOR EXISTING, OTHER THAN BENTLEY STATE TOOK SUBJECT TO LEASE THE CITY HAS WITH A MILLION RIVER CRUISES.

THAT IS THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE OUT THERE.

EVERYBODY ELSE IS ON A MONTH TO MONTH AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT

SAYS OASIS ON IT. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> THE ISSUE IS NOT THE LEASES. IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY.

BUT OASIS DID WAS MAKE EVERYONE'S RENT THE SAME.

EVERYONE'S SLIP FEE WAS THE SAME.

BEFORE IT WAS TOO RATES. ONE AT THE END OF THE.

WHEN OASIS CAME AND THINK THROUGH AND WON GREAT.

THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO THROW ANYONE OUT IF YOU CAN PAY THE RATE. THAT WAS THE CONTENTION.

THEY WERE NOT GOING TO TELL ANYONE TO LEAVE.

THEY WANT THEM TO STAY. THEY SAID WE WILL MAKE EVERYONE'S RATE THE SAME. THAT IS WHERE THE PROBLEMS

BEGAN. >> WE DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS.

IN RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER ROSS.

NUMBER ONE OASIS DID THIS WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITY. I LEARNED ABOUT IT ON FACEBOOK, WHICH IS WHERE I SHOULD NOT LEARN ABOUT SLIP RENTAL INCREASES AND LONGTIME BOATERS MEAN UPSET.

THE CITY NEVER KNEW ABOUT IT. NOW THE CITY ATTORNEY NEVER REVIEWED THE RENTAL AGREEMENT WHICH IS VERY PROBLEMATIC IN ITS WORDING. NOT ONLY DOES IT HAVE THE TEN DAY NOTICE, WITHOUT CAUSE, BECAUSE THERE IS NO APPEAL.

T CONSOLE IF YOU ARE A LONGTIME BOATER.

OASIS CAN COME UP TO YOU AND SAY YOU ARE OUT.

-- SO IF YOU ARE A LONG-TERM BOATER OASIS CAN COME UP TO YOU AND SAY YOU ARE OUT. THE OTHER THING THEY TRIED TO DO

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IS THEY NOTIFIED THE SLIP HOLDERS AROUND MID DECEMBER AND MADE THE RATE INCREASE RETROACTIVE.

RETROACTIVE TO DECEMBER 1. REALLY.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN THE SLIP RENTAL AGREEMENT.

I HOPE THE CITY MANAGER AND ATTORNEY REVIEW THE VERBIAGE.

I URGE YOU TO REVIEW THE VIDEO AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PROBLEMS THEY FOUND IN THE AGREEMENT I COMPLEMENT THE CITY MANAGER FOR TALKING TO OASIS AND GETTING THEM TO PUSH THESE SLIP RATE INCREASES BACK. WE DID SOMETHING RIGHT THERE.

OASIS DID SOMETHING. WE HAVE GOT TO GET THIS AGREEMENT CORRECT AND TO COMMISSIONER ROSS'.YES, THE MARINA IS THERE TO MAKE A PROFIT.

BUT LET'S DO IT CORRECTLY. LET'S DO IT CORRECTLY.

>> I HAVE TWO MORE ISSUES. >> I HAVE SOME MORE SPEAKERS.

>> OKAY. >> THEN WE CAN SPEAK.

>> I HAVE ANDREW BURRELL. >> GOOD EVENING.

I AM ANDREW B. 203 SOUTH 18TH STREET.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS THAT ARE ALSO QUESTIONS.

ONE IS THE SLIP CONTRACT. NOT BEING A YEARLY CONTRACT.

I TALKED TO THE MANAGER OF THE MARINA, TAYLOR, AND HE SAID HE DOES NOT HAVE YEARLY CONTRACTS. MY QUESTION IS WHY.

IF I HAVE A YEARLY CONTRACT, AS A RENTER, I FEEL MORE SAFE WHEN I HAVE A YEARLY CONTRACTOR TO HAVE MY BOAT SITTING THERE, AND FEELING LIKE THEY WILL THROW ME OUT AT THE END OF THE MONTH, I DON'T HAVE A BOAT I CAN PUT ON THE TRAILER GET OUT QUICKLY.

IT IS 4-FOOT LONG, 4-FOOT WIDE AND A DRAFT.

I DO NOT FEEL SECURE, BEING DOWN IN THE MARINA AND I CAN GET THROWN OUT. THEN THE TERMINATION WITHOUT CAUSE. ALTHOUGH NEXT LINE, TERMINATION FOR CAUSE. THE ONE BEFORE ELIMINATES THE

ONE AFTER. >> CORRECT.

SO, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE COMMISSION AND OASIS SO YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR MAYOR FIND OUT ABOUT A CONTRACT ON FACEBOOK.

I JUST ASKED THAT YOU LOOK AT THAT AND DO A YEARLY CONTRACT.

IF YOU DON'T DO YEARLY AT LEAST SIX MONTHS.

I DON'T THINK THAT IS UNFAIR. I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS COMING UP ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. I PUT THE QUESTIONS OUT THERE AND I GAVE YOU A RESOLUTION. I THINK THE CONTRACT SHOULD BE ILLUMINATE THE TERMINATE WITHOUT CAUSE.

AND, LOOK INTO GIVING US A LONGER-TERM CONTRACT SO WE CAN FEEL MORE SECURE THERE. THE OTHER THING IS TO HAVE A VACANCY CLAUSE. IF I'M OUT THERE FOR 48 HOURS THEY CAN RENT MY SLIP OUT. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A LONG-TERM VACANCY. SOMETIMES, I CAN LEAVE FOR THE DAY AND COME IN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND NO ONE IS AT THE MARINA AND THERE IS A BOAT IN MY SLIP AND I MAY NOT HAVE A SPOT.

WE HAVE AT THAT. THIS LAST SUMMER I HAVE SEEN THE MARINA PACKED WITHOUT A SLIP AVAILABLE.

THE MARINA IS DOING GREAT. WHEN YOU ADD TO IT WILL BE EVEN BETTER. THAT IS WHAT I PUT TO YOU TONIGHT. MAYBE LOOK AT THE CONTRACT.

WE HAVE HAD CONCERNS WITH IT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> CAN YOU STAY THERE FOR SECOND PERIOD CITY MANAGER, DO YOU KNOW WHY THE 200 DAY LIMIT WAS PUT INTO THE AGREEMENT?

>> I AM ALMOST POSITIVE IT WAS FROM A FINE REQUIREMENT.

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BUT I WILL GO BACK TO CHECK. >> THANK YOU PICTURES THANK YOU

SIR. >> ALL RIGHT.

MARIANNE PHILLIPS. >> I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I LIVE AT 724 SOUTH SIXTH STREET.

I MET WITH THE GUYS WHO HAVE THE BOAT SLIPS AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THEM. THE MARINA IS A PET PEEVE OF MINE. THE MARINA IS FERNANDINA BEACH.

WHETHER YOU HAVE A GOLF COURSE OR ANYTHING ELSE.

THERE ARE PARKS. I THINK WE HAVE TOO MANY, IN MY OPINION. EVERYONE COMES TO SEE THE HARBOR OUT THERE AND THE MARINA. IT CAN BE SHORELINE STABILIZE.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY. IF WE DON'T FIX THIS SHORELINE WE WON'T HAVE A FERNANDINA BEACH.

IT WILL KEEP GOING INTO THE RIVER.

WE WON'T HAVE ANYTHING. THE NEEDS OUTWEIGH THE OTHER.

THE MARINA HAS TO BE FIXED AND THE SHORELINE HAS TO BE FIXED BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE, THE LITTLE PARTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE GETS DONE. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CONTRACT.

I'VE LOOKED THE CONTRACT AND I WAS APPALLED.

SOMEONE WOULD PUT SOME STUFF IN THERE THAT PEOPLE CANNOT STAY IN THEIR A LONG TIME, THEY BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE CAN TAKE THEIR SLIP. YOU CAN'T RENT A HOUSE LIKE THAT. THEY DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT. SOMEONE WITH KNOWLEDGE NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE CONTRACT THAT KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT BOATS AND WORK ON THE CONTRACT WITH THESE PEOPLE.

SIT DOWN WITH THE COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF SAYING, LET'S PUT A STAMP ON IT. THAT IS WHAT I FEEL HAS HAPPENED. I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE.

I TOLD THEM I WILL BE HERE TO HELP THEM AND SPEAK UP FOR THEM.

IF THEY CAN'T SPEAK I WILL. I WANT TO SEE THE MARINA SAVIOR I WANT TO SEE THE SHORELINE STABILIZE AND THE SHRIMP BOATS COME BACK BECAUSE THEY CAN AND WILL IF WE CAN FIX IT.

MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU. >> OUR LAST SPEAKER ON THE

MARINA IS NATE PARSONS. >> SORRY YOU HAD TO WAIT SIR GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS NATE PARSONS I LIVE ON THE SOUTH IN.

I OWN PROPERTY WITH MY WIFE IN FERNANDINA BEACH.

I HAVE BEEN AN ANNUAL SLIP HOLDER SINCE THE MARINA OPEN BACK UP IN FEBRUARY. I HAVE BEEN ON THE WATER 41 YEARS. I MET THE GUYS WITH OASIS.

THEY SEEM REALLY NICE BUT IT WAS SHOCKING TO GET THERE CONTRACT ON THE 17TH OF DECEMBER WITHOUT ANY SORT OF PRIOR -- I WILL NOT GO THROUGH EVERYTHING YOU JUST HEARD.

THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT ARE TROUBLING.

UNLIKE WHAT I HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE, THESE GUYS AND 100 DAYS TO PUT THEIR ACT IN ORDER.

THEY DID HAVE 100 DAYS. SO THE THINGS THEY DON'T HAVE, EVERY MARINA HAS A RATE CARD. JUST LIKE YOU GO TO A GOLF COURSE. THESE GUYS DON'T HAVE A RATE CARD. THEY SAY IT IS $2.50 PER NIGHT

TO VISIT. >> THIS IS FOR THE BOATS WE HAVE IN THE SPRING AND FALL, I GET IT.

BEYOND THAT, WITH THE CONTRACT, ONE OF THE THINGS NOT ASKED FOR IS INSURANCE. WHEN THINGS WERE GETTING TIGHT, I FILLED OUT THE CONTRACT ONLINE AND TURNED IT IN.

I WANTED TO KEEP MY DOCK THERE. I KNOW IT WILL COST ME MONEY.

IT DOES. BREAKOUT ANOTHER $1,000.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE OLD RATE CONTRACT, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE RATES FOR COMMERCIAL BOATS AND NONCOMMERCIAL BOATS.

THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE. THERE WERE ALSO ADD-ONS AND IF YOU VISITED YOUR BOAT ON LOCATION.

THE SITE IS SOUGHT AFTER. YOU WILL HAVE SAILBOATS HERE.

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YOU WILL GET SOME HARD VOTERS TWO.

GETTING FUEL IS A PRIORITY. LASTLY, THERE ARE ELECTRICAL ISSUES. THE INSIGHT HAS CURRENT. HE DOES NOT GET ELECTROCUTED

WHEN HE GOES INTO THE WATER. >> YOU HAVE 20 SECONDS.

MY BIG THINK IS COMMUNICATION. THERE'S NO REASON WHY THESE GUYS SHOULD NOT COMMUNICATE. THEY HAVE 100 DAYS.

THE BOATS DO NOT MOVE. YOU WILL LEAVE A NOTE ON THE BOAT. SOMEHOW THEY GOT OUR E-MAIL ADDRESS. WE STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED A BILL FOR DECEMBER. IT IS THE THING TO DO.

WE DO NOT HAVE A JANUARY BILL YET.

THERE NEEDS TO BE BETTER COMMUNICATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THAT IS ALL THE SPEAKERS.

COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> TWO MORE ISSUES I WANT TO ADDRESS. THESE WERE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT SIT THERE AND THEY SAID. THEY WONDER IF THERE SHOULD BE A PLAN. THERE SHOULD BE A PLAN TO MOVE BOATS AROUND SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THEY COULD BRING THAT UP AND COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION AND THAT CAME

FROM, YOU WERE THERE. >> THE SECOND THING, AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ISSUE. IS THIS PART OF THEIR MONTHLY MONITORING REPORT. THE LONG-TERM CAPITAL COSTS WILL BE CATCHY. HOPEFULLY WITH MOVING THE BOATS AROUND, IT WAS NEVER PROMISED THAT IT WOULD BE FREE.

SO ONCE AGAIN, I AM BACK TO MONEY.

IF OASIS WOULD REPORT ABOUT THE THEFT AND COME UP WITH THE PLAN, THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED. I THINK IT IS CRITICAL.

ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS ARE MEANINGLESS.

THAT IS THE ONE KEY FACTOR, THE DEPTH OF WATER GETTING IN-AND-OUT. THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS AND MARINA SOUTH OF YOUR HOUSE. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> MY LAST THOUGHTS, THE DAY

AFTER THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD, >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE TURNING

BOARD. >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE BACKYARD.

>> ALL RIGHT WE ARE RECONVENE. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX REGARDING

[6. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T HAVE ANY REQUEST.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? I DO NOT HEAR ANYONE.

[7. CONSENT AGENDA ]

>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

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>> MOVED TO APPROVE AND THE SECOND PERIOD.

>> HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> THAT PAST 5-0.

>> I'M SORRY 4-0. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

[8.1 CODE ENFORCEMENT FINE REDUCTION AND RELEASE OF LIEN ­- 409 FIR STREET]

>> ITEM A .1. CODE ENFORCEMENT FARM PRODUCTION AND RELEASE OF LIEN. DID WE LOSE OVER CITY ATTORNEY? -- DID WE LOSE OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

>> WE ARE ON ITEM A .1. >> YES.

>> THE PROPOSED BUYER IS HERE. I BELIEVE BETWEEN HE AND THE PROPERTY OWNER THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR A REDUCTION OF FINES TO $1,000 AND THEY WERE UP TO $17,000 THAT ARE CRUDE.

IT IS A MAINTENANCE OF PROPERTY ISSUE.

THIS IS A SALE THAT WILL MAKE SURE THE PROPERTY CHANGES HANDS.

THE GROUP THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY ALSO OWNS THE THOMPSON HOUSE AND IT IS GETTING FIXED UP.

SO, THESE WILL COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION ANY TIME YOU REQUEST REDUCTION LIEN BECAUSE THE LIEN THAT IS FILED BY STATE LAW ONLY THE CITY COMMISSION CAN AGREE TO SATISFY A LIEN FOR LESS THAN THE TOTAL AMOUNT, OTHER THAN AN HOUR ORDINANCE THAT DISCUSSES, YOU GIVE THE CITY MANAGER THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH ANY INTEREST THAT HAS BEEN ADDED SO IT IS THERE TO GIVE YOU THAT FRAMEWORK. I DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT, IF YOU WANTED A RECOMMENDATION I DO NOT HAVE ONE AND I AM NOT SURE IF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT SUBMITTED ONE. SO, IT IS IN YOUR HANDS.

THE PROPOSED BUYER IS HERE AND THEY INTEND TO CLOSE THIS MONTH.

THE SATISFACTION OF THE LIEN OR MOST OF THE LIEN, WOULD BE

HELPFUL TO THEIR CLOSING. >> SHOULD WE HERE FROM HIM

BEFORE DISCUSSION? >> I HAVE TO ISSUES.

THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE DEMOLISHED.

THEY SAID THEY WILL DO THAT. THE BUILDING NEEDS TO GO.

SO, MY MAJOR FOCUS IS TO MAKE SURE THE BUILDING GOES AWAY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT, I DID A FINAL SEARCH, YOU WILL FIND AGAINST THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IS A LIEN FOR $160,000 WHICH EXCEEDS THE PURCHASE PRICE, AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER LIEN THAT EXCEEDS THE DUMPSTER FOR $2,500. AND THERE MAY BE OTHER LIENS.

THEY ARE UPSIDE DOWN ON THE PROPERTY.

SO TO SATISFY THE LIENS, THE SELLER HAS TO COME TO THE TABLE AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WITH CASH, THEY HAVE TO SATISFY ALL OF THE LIENS AGAINST THAT PROPERTY.

IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE, THE LIENS HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE I AM NOT CONFIDENT -- THAT THE SELLER HAS ENOUGH CASH TO CLOSE THE DEAL. THAT IS MY FIRST CONCERN.

SECOND IS, I SPOKE WITH MR. PALMER ABOUT THIS.

MY SECOND CONCERN, I'M SURE HE'S A REPUTABLE PERSON I AM SURE HE WILL DO WHAT HE SAYS BUT AS RONALD REAGAN SAYS, TRUST EVERYONE BUT VERIFY EVERYTHING. I WOULD WANT A GUARANTEE, WHICH IS BACKED UP BY MONEY OR SOMETHING THAT THE BUILDING WILL BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN X AMOUNT OF DAYS.

YOU MAY CLOSE AND THEN THE LIEN IS GONE AND SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED AND YOU CANNOT FULFILL THAT AND WE ARE BACK TO WHERE WE ARE SO, MY TWO CONCERNS ARE, THEY HAVE AGREED TO PAY

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ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. I DID NOTICE THE SALES AGENT IS GETTING BENEFITS FROM THIS. MY CONCERN IS IT WILL CLOSE, AND THAT NUMBER TWO THEY WILL TAKE DOWN BOOK BUILDING AND X AMOUNT OF DAYS. SO THOSE ARE MY TWO CONCERNS.

>> THANK YOU. >> I CONTEND WE DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION. FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT, I CANNOT

SPEAK FOR THEM. >> I AGREE WITH CHIPS CONCERN.

I WOULD LIKE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.

BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER RAWSON SAID WE NEED

A GUARANTEE. >> CAN WE LEGALLY, IF WE REDUCE THE PENALTY CAN WE LEGALLY INCLUDE A CAUSE.

>> THE THING IS THE TIMING. WHEN THE CLOSING HAPPENS, THE SATISFACTION OF LIEN AT THE LATEST NEEDS TO BE RECORDED BY THE TITLE AGENT OR CLOSING AGENT.

IT NEEDS TO BE EXECUTED BY THE CITY.

IF YOU PUT IN THE CLAUSE, IF WE PUT A CLAUSE IN THERE, THAT SAYS, THIS LIEN IS SATISFIED DEPENDING ON THE BUILDING BEING DEMOLISHED. WHAT IF IT IS NOT, THEN, I GUESS , IT WOULD CAUSE CONFUSION FISHER AT THE VERY LEAST.

>> I WANT THE MONEY ESCROWED IN SOME WAY.

THEY HAVE HAD AN ESTIMATE TO TAKE THE BUILDING DOWN, SO 15,000, OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT

LEGALLY. >> YOU DO AN ESCROW AGREEMENT.

SO IF THERE'S MONEY SITTING THERE, BUT THAT MONEY SINCE THERE FROM THE BUYER OR SELLER IS TO SPARE AND THE CLOSING HAPPENS AND THE MONEY IS IN ESCROW UNTIL IT COMES DOWN.

>> AND WE DON'T AGREE TO REDUCING THE LIEN INTO WE CLOSE.

I DON'T WANT TO CLOSE AND LET IT GO, AND THEN IT DOESN'T CLOSE.

THEN WE'VE GOT RID OF THE LIEN AND IT HASN'T CLOSE.

>> I HAVE WORKED WITH CLOSING AGENT AND WITH LITERALLY GET DELIVERED THAT DAY. IT IS THE DAY IT'S CLOSING.

>> SO BAD IS THE SAFEST OPTION TO HAVE MONEY IN ESCROW.

OTHERWISE, BUT, IT'S A LITTLE MORE MESSY ANYTHING THAT?

>> STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> THIS IS ODD LOT.

IN MY VIEW, IT IS NOT WORTH OF THIS TIME.

GOOD SEEING WORKING ON THE GOLF COURSE PROBLEM.

THESE ARE BIG PROBLEMS. THIS IS A TRIVIAL PROBLEM.

I COMMIT TO YOU IT'S A CASH CEILING.

IF YOU WANT ME TOO PUT MONEY IN ESCROW TO SATISFY THIS I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. I WILL DO ANYTHING, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE MYSELF FEEL BETTER AND HAVE SOMETHING TO DO AND TO IMPROVE THE CITY.

I REALLY LOVE THE CITY. THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO SAY.

THE SELLER WILL NOT COMMUNICATE WITH ME ANYMORE THEN HE WILL COMMIT TO THE CITY. TRYING TO NEGOTIATE GETTING A DEAL WHICH COULD WAS HARD ENOUGH.

THE FACT THAT THE CITY HAS A LIEN OF $17,000 FOR NOT MOWING THE GRASS AND A FEW OTHER PROBLEMS, IS A DEALBREAKER.

IF THAT CAN BE FORGIVEN IN SUCH A WAY, THAT IT'S NOT PART OF THE BIG PACKAGE BECAUSE HE IS HEAVILY UNDERWATER.

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HE TRIED TO RESURRECT A BUILDING THAT WAS ON RESURRECT THE BOAT AND INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY THAT HE WILL NEVER GET BACK.

IT WILL COST A LOT FOR HIM TO GET OUT OF IT.

THAT'S ALL. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS.

>> I'M WILLING TO DO 1,000 BUCKS.

THIS IS CONTINGENT ON THE ESCROW ACCOUNT.

>> CITY MANAGER. >> I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN THE PACKET.

IT WENT TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, AND FOLLOWING THE PROCESS, THE PROCESS IS NOW BEFORE YOU.

THERE WAS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS ACCEPTED WHICH IS THAT THE APPLICANT TO FILE A SUBPOENA WITH YOU.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS ENDORSED BY THE BOARD OF REVIEW.

>> WEARS THAT DOCUMENT QUACKS. >> THEY ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR

PACKET. >> LET'S BE CLEAR.

SO, WHAT DALE IS SAYING IS THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS A DAILY FINE AND IT WAS FOR THE BOARD AND THE DAILYFINANCE RUN TO THE POINT WHERE IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S CONTINUING TO RUN OR NOT. SO, THE PROPERTY IS STILL UNDER COMPLIANCE. THIS IS ULTIMATELY A GOAL.

I THINK, YOU WILL NOT SEE, THE COLD BOARD WHEN THESE THINGS COME OUT, THEY HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE WILL NOT COME TO YOU AND SAY IT SHOULD BE $5,000. THE RECOMMENDATION I THINK, WILL STAND WITH PARTICLEBOARD ASSESSES AND THEN IT WILL BE UP

TO YOU. >> SO MAYBE I'M CONFUSED, MAYBE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE HAD RECOMMENDATIONS ON SETTLEMENTS AND REDUCTIONS, THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

I AGREE, I AGREE WITH YOU, LET'S GET THIS THING AND DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO GET ASSURANCES. LET'S REDO THIS.

>> I HAVE TO SAY I HAVE A HONEST FACE.

>> I AM IN FAVOR OF THE PLAN,. >> THE COLD BOARD DID GIVE RECOMMENDATION. I'VE BEEN TO THE MEETINGS.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS 17,000. IT IS THE FULL MONTY.

WHAT I WANT TO SEE, THIS IS IN A BIG DEAL BUT IT'S PROBABLY A BIG DEAL FOR THE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES AND A BIG DEAL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF A LITTLE DEAL, A LITTLE DEAL FOR OTHER PEOPLE BUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A BIG DEAL.

THE HOUSE NEEDS TO COME DOWN. THIS GETS THAT DONE, THAT'S GREAT. BUT YOU MAY HAVE AN HONEST FACE BUT WE NEED A LITTLE MONEY SECTOR WAY TO MAKE SURE YOU

FOLLOW THROUGH. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER YOUR LIGHT

IS STILL ON. >> WILL BE AGREE TO, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, THAT WE GRANT THE LIEN REDUCTION.

>> HANG ON ONE SECOND PERIOD WILL YOU COME PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. I'M VERY CLOSE TO THIS HOUSE IT'S RIGHT OUT OF MY FRONT DOOR. I PERSONALLY BECAME INVOLVED WITH THIS PROPERTY SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAD WAS THE HOMELESS POPULATION AND THE LIMITED CULTURE AND WORKING THROUGH CODE THIS IS A VIABLE SOLUTION. I WAS THE PERSON WHO SOLD HIM THIS HOUSE. I PUT UNDER CONTRACT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY. THE REAL ESTATE AGENT WORKED TIRELESSLY BECAUSE WHEN THE HOUSE GETS TO THIS POINT THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES. WE FINALLY GOT IT UNDER CONTRACT. WE BEGAN TO LOOK FOR SOMEONE WHO WOULD TAKE THE HOUSE DOWN AND PUT UP ONE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.

THE SOLUTION TO THE PRODUCT IS NOT THE $17,000 FINE.

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IT IS GETTING RID OF THE HOUSE AND PUTTING IT BACK ON THE BOARD. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

>> I MOVE THAT WE GRANT THE LIEN RECOMMENDED.

THE GRANTING OF THE LIEN IS DEPENDENT THAT YOU WORK OUT THE LEGAL DETAILS AND NUMBER TWO, THEY IN ESCROW, YOU COME UP WITH THE PRICE OF $9,000. I WILL SAY $12,000 IN ESCROW.

TO MAKE SURE THE HOUSE IS TAKEN DOWN WITHIN 60 DAYS OF YOU

GETTING A DEMOLITION PERMIT. >> A WET QUACKS.

>> A DEMOLITION PERMIT. WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE PHONE YOUR BIGGEST PROBLEM WAS GETTING THE DEMOLITION PERMIT.

YOU SAID ONCE YOU GET IT YOU COULD DO IT IN A DAY OR SO.

THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION QUACKS. >> WE HAVEN'T ADOPTED THE NEW RULES AND PROCEDURES. BUT THE TIME.

ON MR. PALMER TO APPLY FOR A DEMO PERMIT WITHIN A CERTAIN

AMOUNT OF TIME. >> I CAN ADD ON TO MY MOTION THAT IS CONTINGENT TO A BLIND WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF CLOSURE.

>> IS THAT FINE WITH YOU QUACKS. >> I AMEND MY SECOND.

>> I CAN EXPLAIN HOW THAT WILL WORK.

WHEN I ASKED FOR THE MAYOR'S SIGNATURE.

IN ORDER FOR THEM TO CLOSE THE SALE, THIS HAS TO BE EXECUTED AND DELIVERED. BEFORE WE SIGN OFF, WHICH WOULD COMPLETELY ELIMINATE THE LIEN, WE WILL, MR. PALMER AND THE CITY WILL ENTER INTO AN ESCROW AGREEMENT.

WE HAVE IN ESCROW SET UP. I WOULD DO IT WITH THE CLOSING AGENT. WE WILL FIND OUT WHEN THE CLOSING IS AND I WILL NOT DELIVER THAT SATISFACTION UNTIL.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE -- >> I CARE ABOUT THE $12,000.

>> THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE.

CLOSE, THEY NEED THIS WEEK. >> THE THOUSAND DOLLARS, THE $12,000 WOULD BE DELIVERED TO THE CITY SEPARATE FROM, AND PUT INTO ESCROW SEPARATE. THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO GET

THEIR CLOSING AGENT. >> IT WILL BE VERY AGREEABLE.

>> MR. PALMER YOU NEED TO SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID FOR THE

PUBLIC RECORD. >> I PUT 12,000 AND ESCROW.

>> I C9, CITY CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> THE MOTION PASSED 4-0. >> ITEM A POINT TO HEAR AMENDED

[8.2 AMENDED  AND  EXTENDED - ­ EMERGENCY  ORDER  –  COVID­-19  -­  MANDATORY  MASKS]

[03:15:08]

AND EXTENDED EMERGENCY ORDER, COVID MANDATORY MASK -- MASKS.

>> AS I WAS DUE IN EVERY MEETING, THE TOP GRAPH IS WHAT I PRESENTED IN DECEMBER, THE BOTTOM IS THE TWO WEEKS, A LITTLE MORE THAN TWO WEEKS OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THE COUNTY SINCE THEN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD A RECORD 75 IN THE PREVIOUS CHART.

YOU CAN SEE WE BROKE 75 ALMOST SEVEN TIMES.

THE MOST RECENT BEING ON NEW YEAR'S EVE, 134.

SO, THIS ISN'T GETTING BETTER, IT IS GETTING WORSE.

JUST AS THE REST OF THE STATE, THE REST OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE REST OF THE WORLD, WE ARE NOT CONTROLLING THE PANDEMIC, WE ARE REDUCING ITS IMPACT.

THAT IS WHAT THE DATA SAYS. ANY DISCUSSION QUACKS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

IN MY EYES, AND I THINK IT WILL KEEP IT THE SAME, I WANT TO CHANGE ONE WORD FROM REQUIRING TWO RECOMMENDING PARENT I MOVE THAT WE CHANGE THAT WORD, AND THIS RESOLUTION.

I DO THAT FOR A REASON THAT IT WOULD BE THE SAME.

I THINK WE HAVE TO SET AN EXAMPLE.

AN EXAMPLE OF HAVING THIS ORDINANCE IS HERE.

HOWEVER IT CANNOT BE ENFORCED. THEY CANNOT ENFORCE THIS SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS WHAT IT IS WHICH IS A RECOMMENDATION AND A GOOD RECOMMENDATION TO WEAR A MASK IN THE COMMUNITY.

I MOVE THAT WE CHANGE THE WORD AND I WILL BE IN FULL FAVOR OF

THIS. >> I DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE

TABLE. >> I HEAR NONE.

THAT MOTION FAILS. ANY FURTHER?

>> THAT IS ALL I HAD TO SAY. >> COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> YES. I SPENT TEN HOURS WORKING WITH PATIENTS WHO HAD COVID YESTERDAY.

THERE WERE PEOPLE, CLOSER THAN THIS WITH COVID.

THE ONLY THING THAT PROTECTED ME WAS A MASK, THAT'S IT.

EVERYONE IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM WEARS A MASK.

I THINK WEARING A MASK IS EFFECTIVE IN TRANSMITTING -- PREVENTING GETTING COVID. MY MAJOR GOAL IS TO PROTECT HEALTH AND MAINTAIN ESSENTIAL SERVICES IN OUR CITY.

ALTHOUGH THE CITY ORDINANCE IS NOT ENFORCEABLE IT DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS. WHEN WE SAY REQUIRE, SMALL BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS AND GROCERY STORES, WHEN PEOPLE GO IN AND WE GIVE COVER TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES, THEY CAN SAY THEY REQUIRE TO HAVE YOU WEAR A MASK.

IS IT ENFORCEABLE NO. BUT I HAVE DEALT WITH SEATBELTS BEFORE. BACK THEN I HEARD MANY THINGS ABOUT IT. I SPENT 40 YEARS IN EMERGENCY ROOMS. I CAN TELL YOU WEARING A MASK MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE. I THINK THE CITY SHOULD SET THE EXAMPLE AND IT'S ESSENTIAL FOR US TO SHOW LEADERSHIP AND WHERE IT INDOORS. THAT IS TO PROTECT OUR GROCERY STORE WORKERS BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE GO IN THERE AND THEY DON'T GETS -- I GET SICK, WE ALL WATCH THE VIDEO OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GREEN TURTLE ON NEW YEAR'S EVE.

I AM NOT CONDONING THAT AT ALL. CAN WE EDUCATE PEOPLE QUACKS KNOW. CAN WE MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT.

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WE HAVE A LOT OF LAWS IN THE CITY.

A LOT OF LAWS WE DON'T ENFORCE. FOR INSTANCE DON'T RIDE A BIKE ON THE SIDEWALK. PEOPLE DO IT ALL OF THE TIME, WE DON'T ENFORCE THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT WE RECOMMENDED WE REQUIRE IT. I THINK IT SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE THINK IS IMPORTANT.

THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, I SPOKE TO MR. FOSTER BEFORE AND HE AGREES WE SHOULD HAVE A MASK ORDINANCE AND WE SHOULD REQUIRE THAT. THAT WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

>> DRAMA MOTION I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PAIR VICE MAYOR

KREGER. >> THIS IS A CASE WHERE I AGREE.

I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO WEAR A MASK WHEN YOU GO TO THE COUNTY BUILDING. ALL OF THE MAJOR STORES REQUIRE THIS. THIS IS ONE OF THE RARE CASES WE ARE SHOWING LEADERSHIP IN MOVING FORWARD.

>> TO CLARIFY,. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE, I FEEL THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS DISHONEST.

WE CAN'T REQUIRE ANYTHING WE CAN ONLY RECOMMEND.

THIS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CONSTITUENTS WHICH I THINK IS WHAT IT IS. ALL OF THESE POINTS ARE CORRECT.

PRIVATE BUSINESSES DO REQUIRE A MASK TO GO.

PUBLIX REQUIRES IT. THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT BUSINESSES THAT REQUIRE IT. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DONE.

THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION. ONE THAT I WISH, I WANT TO BE HONEST, WE DON'T WANT TO IMPLY WHEN WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON. WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT.

WHAT WE HAVE IS A RECOMMENDATION PAIR I WOULD LIKE TO BE HONEST WITH THE PEOPLE AND THAT IS WHAT I AM HOPING WE DO.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> I THINK WE ARE BEING HONEST WITH THE PEOPLE. WE ARE REQUIRING THE PEOPLE THE GOVERNMENT IS PREEMPTING US FROM ENFORCING IT.

OUR REQUIREMENT IS YOU WHERE A MASK.

I THINK WE SHOULD WRITE A LETTER, HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY OR MANAGER HAVE A LETTER WRITTEN , TO THE GOVERNOR AND SAY PLEASE REMOVE THE PREEMPTION. WE JUST CAN'T ENFORCE IT.

SECOND OF ALL, WHEN YOU WALK INTO A STORE, PEOPLE PUSH BACK.

WHEN YOU SAY THE CITY RECOMMENDS , IT GIVES THEM MORE COVER IT GIVES PEOPLE COVER WHEN THEY SAY THE CITY REQUIRES YOU TO WEAR A BASS. I'M ALSO ENTER YOU OUT OF HERE.

I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES.

I THINK WE ARE SUPPORTING THE SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE GROCERY STORES AND A LOT OF WORKERS AND PROTECTING THEM FROM COVID.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS, I FINALLY HAVE A FEW COMMISSIONS -- QUESTIONS. BEFORE YOU HAVE YOUR CREDIT WORD, I WANT TO SAY I WOULD BE COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF THIS IF

IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION. >> SO, EARLIER, I MENTIONED THE MARTIN LUTHER KING PARADE, ON THE 18TH AND THE FISHING

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TOURNAMENT. BUT I DO NOT SEE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR APPROVAL I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE I THINK THE CITY MANAGER WAS LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON WHETHER THE CITY COMMISSIONER IS ADVISING YOU TO PULL DEFENSE OR YOU WANT US TO

DIRECT YOU QUACKS. >> WE DID CANCEL EVENTS TO THE END OF DECEMBER. THERE WERE TWO EVENTS IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY, OUTDOOR EVENTS, WHICH INCLUDED MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. PARADE WHICH WAS SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 18 AND THE RED-FACED TOURNAMENT END OF LAST WEEKEND OF JANUARY.

IN FEBRUARY, THERE IS A SIP AND SHOP SPONSORED BY, THAT I THINK IS A MAIN STREET EVENT. THERE IS A CHILI COOKOFF

DOWNTOWN ON FEBRUARY 20 AS WELL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US BOTH ON THE FACE COVERINGS. SO WE DON'T MAKE GUMBO SO TO SPEAK. CITY CLERK, IF WE COULD HAVE THE BOAT ON THE MASKS. CALLING THE ROLL.

>> THAT MOTION PASSED 3-ONE. SINCE THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA

WE -- >> YOU CAN TAKE ACTION.

SO, THE ISSUE IS WHETHER TO HOLD THE MLK PARADE AND THE TOURNAMENT. I AM ASSUMING CITY MANAGER, WOULD WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME AT THE JANUARY 19 MEETING TO DECIDE ON

THE EVENT QUACKS. >> I THINK WE COULD.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO CANCEL THE DATE INDICATED THERE ARE GUIDELINES FOR OUTDOOR EVENTS. ALTHOUGH I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THOSE, I AM NOT SURE IF A CHILI COOKOFF WILL CHANGE ANYTHING.

I THINK, THE MLK PARADE, WE HAVE ALLOWED PARADES IN THE PAST WE HAVE INCURRED SOCIAL DISTANCING, AND FOR THE MOST PART IT HAS BEEN IGNORED. BUT I THINK THAT IS A PRIME HOLIDAY THAT THE CITY RECOGNIZES.

I WOULD EXPECT AS WITH ANY OTHER PARADE, WHAT YOU SAY HERE WILL PROBABLY FALL ON DEAF EARS AND THE PARADE WOULD GO ON WHETHER WE OFFICIALLY ENDORSE IT OR NOT. THE REDFISH TOURNAMENT IS HELD OUT AT SEA OR OFFSHORE. THERE'S ONLY ONE GATHERING, I SPOKE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS RUNNING IT AND HE SAID THEY GET THE PEOPLE OUT TO THE WATER AND WHEN THEY TAKE PHOTOS THERE OF A SMALL STAGE THAT WILL ONLY HAVE THREE PEOPLE THERE AT THE TIME.

SO I THINK IF YOU WANT TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT MORE DETAILS, I THINK THE INDOOR EVENT, AND THE COOKOFF, ARE NATURALLY CONDUCIVE TO PUBLIC GATHERINGS IF YOU WANT TO RECONSIDER THESE I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.

>> ANY COOKOFF WILL COME IN AT A HIGH RISK CATEGORY I SAY CANCEL

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THE CHILI COOKOFF. >> SECOND.

CHANDRA RECOMMENDING THAT ALL OF THESE EVENTS FOLLOW THE CDC GUIDELINES. THAT IS YOUR MOTION.

THEY ALL FOLLOW THE CDC GUIDELINES.

>> I AM CONFUSED. LET ME ASK VICE MAYOR KREGER THE QUESTION. I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY CANCEL

THE CHILI COOKOFF. >> I SAID CANCEL THE CHILI

COOKOFF AND INDOOR EVENTS. >> I WILL GET MORE DETAILS AND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION

QUACKS. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MLK PARADE AND THE REDFISH TOURNAMENT WITH CDC GUIDELINES.

BUT CANCELED THE ATLANTIC RACK EVENT AND THE CHILI COOKOFF.

>> THAT IS CORRECT FOR. >> CITY CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE

CALL THE VOTE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER PETER COMMISSIONER ROSS. MAYOR LEDNOVICH.

[8.3 CARES ACT FUNDING - NONPROFIT CONTRIBUTIONS / BUDGET AMENDMENTS]

>> THE MOTION PASSES 4-0. >> ITEM A .3.

CARE SECTOR FUNDING, NONPROFIT CONTRIBUTIONS.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THE CITY DID ORIGINALLY, AS YOU ARE AWARE ALLOCATE NON- BUDGETED FUNDS TO SUPPORT AGENCIES TO FIVE DIFFERENT AGENCIES IN THE AMOUNT OF $269,000.

THE CITY HAS RECEIVED, THE CITY SOUGHT REIMBURSEMENT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A BRIEF

PRESENTATION. >> THEY DID JUSTIFY THEY DID SOMETHING. THERE WEREN'T LETTERS, BUT I THINK THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME ALSO.

AND MR. MAYOR, JUST TO CLARIFY. THIS IS DISTRIBUTING THE MONEY IN THE SAME FORMAT. IT IS BROKEN INTO DIFFERENT

PAYMENTS. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS QUACKS. >> I ■HEARNONE, CITYCLERK WILL

YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE QUACKS. >> THAT MOTION PASSES 4-0.

[8.4 PUBLIC,  EDUCATIONAL,  AND  GOVERNMENT  (PEG)  CHANNEL  COMMITTEE  BUSINESS  PLAN  APPROVAL]

[03:35:15]

>> ITEM A .4. PUBLIC, EDUCATIONAL, AND GOVERNMENT CHANNEL COMMITTEE BUSINESS PLAN.

>> THE PREVIOUS REQUEST WAS FOR MEMBERS OF THE PEG COMMITTEE ACTIVE MEMBERS TO PREPARE A BUSINESS PLAN IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU IN AN ATTACHMENT.

I KNOW SEVERAL MEMBERS ARE HERE THIS EVENING AND THEY CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO THE RESOLUTION IS TO REINCARNATE THE PEG CHANNEL AND THEIR BUSINESS PLAN THAT IS

BEING PRESENTED. >> COMMISSIONERS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE REPRESENTATIVES QUACKS.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP QUACKS PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME

AND YOUR ADDRESS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO START BY SAYING CONGRATULATIONS MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS I AM EXCITED TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THIS PLACE BETTER.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. I AM HAPPY TO JUMP IN AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AT ANY POINT REGARDING THE PRESENTATION.

GIVEN OUR TIME THIS EVENING I WILL BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.

THE MISSION FOR THE PUBLIC EDUCATION AND GOVERNMENT CHANNEL, HAS NOT CHANGED. THAT MISSION FEELS A STRONG CORNERSTONE. OUR TEAM, SO IF WE LOOK AT THAT, YOU PROBABLY ALREADY THAT, WE ARE COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO PROVIDE CONTENT THAT IS A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

THE PURPOSE, IS REALLY UNIQUE FOR US.

THIS ALIGNS WITH THE BUSINESS MODEL OF WORKING WITH.

>> WE ARE TAKING A DIFFERENT APPROACH.

BY FOCUSING ON PARTNERSHIPS, THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT CAN PROVIDE SUPPORT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MISSION, PURPOSE AND PROGRAM GUIDELINES. STRATEGIC PARTNERS CAN BE A NONPROFIT, OF BUSINESS, OR A DEPARTMENT OF THE GOVERNMENT.

SO, THE PROGRAMMING GUIDELINES ARE SIMPLE.

WE JUST WANT YOU TO THINK PEG. >> PUBLIC BENEFIT.

NONPROFIT AND LIFESTYLE BEHAVIOR.

WE FEEL WE CAN ENTERTAIN, WE CAN RAISE AWARENESS TO CELEBRATE THE COMMUNITY. EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING.

FINANCIAL LITERACY, HISTORY, SCIENCE, CHILDREN'S EDUCATION, WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN EDUCATE OUR CONSTITUENTS ON VARIOUS SUBJECT MATTERS SUCH AS THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN AND IS SILENT AS WELL AS LITERACY. GOVERNMENT, CITY AND OTHER GOVERNMENT MEETINGS, WE CAN INFORM THE PUBLIC AND RAISE AWARENESS ON DIFFERENT TOPICS CONTAINING CITY OR LOCAL

GOVERNMENT. >> THE GOALS.

WE DECIDED TO BREAK DOWN VOCALS INTO QUARTERLY GOALS.

THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. FOR QUARTER ONE, WE HAVE VOCALS LISTED. I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM.

I WILL SAY THIS, AS OF TODAY AS I STAND IN FRONT OF YOU WE ARE HALFWAY THROUGH THE COMPLETION OF THESE GOALS.

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WE HAVE MET WEEKLY, IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING FOLLOWING THE RULES AND I CAN PROVIDE THE MINUTES OF THE MEETINGS UPON REQUEST. QUARTER TO BREW QUARTER FOR GOALS ARE ALL LISTED IN THE BUSINESS PLAN.

THE MAIN THING, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS IS THAT WE ARE BUILDING A BUSINESS MODEL WHERE, IDENTIFYING STRATEGIC PARTNERS, LAUNCHING PROGRAM AND GROWING IT.

THAT IS OUR GOAL. >> CAN ASK A QUESTION?

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS THAT YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT?

>> A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. >> CAN WE GO BACK TO QUARTER

ONE. >> YES.

>> I BELIEVE QUARTER ONE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.

IT IS THE FORMATION OF THE GROUP.

>> A FORMER GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, MANY.

HOW MANY DO YOU NEED ON THE COMMITTEE?

>> WE WILL START WITH, WHAT WAS REQUIRED IN THE CHARTER WHICH WAS FIVE. THEN WE HOPE TO GROW INTO SEVEN AND MAYBE HAVE SOME SUBCOMMUNITIES.

>> HOW MANY YOU HAVE NOW? >> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FOUR OF

THEM. >> SO YOU WANT TO COMMITTEE OF

FIVE OF THEM BY WHEN? >> OUR BASELINE, BY THE END OF QUARTER ONE WE WILL HAVE A FULL WORKING COMMITTEE OF FIVE OF THEM. HONESTLY WE ARE PUSHING FOR SEVEN OF THEM BUT WE WANT TO BE CONSERVATIVE, WE WANT TO EXCEED OUR PROMISE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

>> >> THIS IS INCLUSIVE OF QUARTERLY MILESTONES. WHEN I READ THIS, YOU WANT A FULL COMMITTEE BY THE END OF MARCH WHICH IS THE END OF THE

1ST QUARTER. >> THE FIVE.

>> I'M SORRY THE FIVE OF THEM. YOU WANT DESPITE THE END OF THE 1ST QUARTER. YOU ALSO WANT TO CREATE A ROBUST BUSINESS PLAN. BUT BY THE TIME YOU FORMED THE COMMITTEE, AND START WORKING ON YOUR BUSINESS PLAN, I AM ASSUMING HALF OF THE YEAR WILL BE OVER.

>> WAS REALLY GREAT, WE HAVE ALREADY FORMED THE FOUNDATION OF THE BUSINESS PLAN WHICH IS THE BUSINESS THAT WERE GIVEN TO YOU.

WE HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED, AMAZING THINGS THAT CAN FULFILL THE OBLIGATIONS. THIS IS FILLING OUT THE APPLICATIONS AND GETTING THEM SUBMITTED TO THE BODY FOR APPROVAL AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT.

BUT AT THE POINT AT WHICH ALL FIVE OF US WILL REVIEW THE PLAN AND WE HAVE NEW IDEAS BUT THE FOUNDATION, IS THERE.

WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE IT TAKING UNTIL MARCH TO HAVE THIS COMPLETED. WE WERE GIVEN A TIMELINE TO WE COULD SEE HOW QUICKLY WE GET THE FIFTH MEMBER.

WE SHOULD GET THIS WRAPPED UP BEFORE THE END OF JANUARY.

>> WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, I'M LOOKING FOR METRICS AND MILESTONES THAT SHOW THE COMMITTEE'S PROGRESS TOWARDS THE GOALS. MEASURABLE PROGRESS AS YOU WORK THROUGH THESE QUARTERLY GOALS. IF WE CAN HAVE THOSE NEXT TO EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS FOR THEY ARE SPECIFIC AND TIME.

THAT MAKES SENSE? THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU. >> DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> WAS RESPONDING. >> SO, WE DO HAVE A METRICS AND WE WANT TO ENGAGE COMMUNITY PARTNERS BEFORE THE END OF QUARTER ONE. THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT STRATEGIC PARTNERS. QUARTER TWO, QUARTER THREE.

QUARTER SIX. >> WALKED ME THROUGH, WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE STRATEGIC PARTNER.

WHAT DO THEY BRING? WHEN DO YOU WANT THEM TO BRING?

>> I'M SORRY GUYS, GLAD YOU ASKED.

>> THIS THIS IS REALLY EXCITING.

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IT IS A WAY WE CAN BUILD UPON WHAT THIS HAS TRIED TO BE AND TAKE IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL. THIS COULD BE A FEW THINGS.

WE ARE LOOKING TO OUR PARTNERS TO PROVIDE CONTEN AND PROGRAMMING SUPPORT. FOR EXAMPLE, I CHATTED WITH A MEMBER OF THE GOVERNMENT, I WAS GOING TO DO ONE EXAMPLE BUT WE WILL GO WITH THIS. VACCINE INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE PUBLIC. WHAT IF, WE WERE A WORKING BODY ALREADY. WE STARTED THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO. WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH THE CITY, AND THE LOCAL HOSPITAL, TO PROVIDE AN AWARENESS CAMPAIGN ABOUT HOW TO GET THE VACCINE AND DISPLAY THAT INFORMATION ON THE CHANNEL. THAT'S GREAT.

HOW WOULD THAT WORK IN THE DETAILS.

WE COULD LOOK AT THIS BUT IN THE INTEREST OF BREVITY, A GREAT PARTNER WOULD PROVIDE CLOSE CAPTIONING SUPPORT THAT MAY BE THE HOSPITAL OR THE CITY, AND WE BRING THAT TOGETHER AND WE MANAGE THE PROCESS, WE APPROVED THAT CONTENT AND THEN RESUBMIT IT TO THE CHANNEL. WE ARE NOT A BURDEN ON THE CITY BY REQUIRING A BUNCH OF FUNDING LIKE WHERE DID THE MONEY GO.

INSTEAD, WE ARE PROVIDING A GREAT SERVICE AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY AND BRINGING MORE ORGANIZATION.

NOT JUST THE HEALTH RELATED ORGANIZATIONS, BUT ARTS, CULTURE

AND HISTORY. >> THANK YOU.

PLEASE CONTINUE. >> THAT WAS 3 MINUTES.

>> IS DOING A PRESENTATION. >>

>> WE ASKED HIM TO DO THE PRESENTATION.

>> GO AHEAD. >> I REALLY WANTED TO BE BRIEF HERE. SO, IF WE COULD JUMP OVER TO PROGRAM EXAMPLES. HERE'S ANOTHER THING WE CAN LOOK AT BRIEFLY. I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME

AND PATIENCE. >> THESE ARE CURRENT EVENTS.

WE COULD TEAM UP WITH THE MUSEUM OF HISTORY.

>> >> THE BUDGET OF $250,000 INCLUDES CAMERA EQUIPMENT, CLOSE CAPTIONING, MARKETING AND SUPPLY

, THIS WILL KICK THAT OFF. >> IN THIS BUDGET WE OUTLINED FIVE, WE HAD GO PRO CAMERA SPIRIT PACKET BE A GOOD STARTING POINT OF SOME GOOD SOUND EQUIPMENT.

BEFORE I CLOSE WITH THIS, I DO WANT TO SAY, IN TERMS OF THE GOALS, WHAT WE WANTED TO IS LAUNCH SOME EDUCATIONAL THINGS AND TRAINING FOR PRODUCTION. A LOT OF SUCCESSFUL CHANNELS.

WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH SMALL MARKETS IN LARGER MARKETS GOING INTO THIS, BEING ABLE TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY COULD BE A GREAT

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VALUE. BECAUSE OF THE TIMES WE ARE LIVING IN AN BECAUSE IT IS UNPRECEDENTED WE ARE SHOOTING TO DO THAT VIRTUALLY. WE DO HAVE TRAINING STARTING.

GOING INTO Q4 WE WANT TO EXPAND ON THAT.

>> >> I AM WILLING TO PASS THIS

MOTION. >> THIS IS A NON- BUDGET ITEM.

AS I HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES, WE ARE IN COVID.

I THINK YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

>> I AM NOT ASKING FOR FUNDING, WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR APPROVAL, WE ARE RELYING ON OUR FUNDING COMING INTO THIS ORGANIZATION.

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE THIS. >> I WILL SECOND PICK.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD I'M SORRY, I WAS READING MY AGENDA. I'M GOING TO VOTE YES ON THIS.

THIS WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. IT WAS VERY WELL DONE.

I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS UP BY THE COMMISSION. THIS IS A DIFFICULT TIME.

>> I WILL JUST FINISH AND SAY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS IN THE

FIRST OF APRIL. >> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE PAST, WAS WE APPROVED PEG AND NO ONE PAID ATTENTION.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE QUARTERLY GOALS, LET'S REVIEW HOW THEY DID ON THEIR GOALS, AND HOW THEY WILL MOVE FORWARD.

>> I WILL GIVE YOU A CAUTIONARY TALE.

ONCE YOU BECOME A COMMUNITY, YOU ARE NOT OPERATING.

SO YOU CAN CALL EACH OTHER AND DO THE THINGS YOU BEEN DOING

WELL. >>

>> OTHER THINGS THEY NEED TO NO LIKE THE AGENDAS OR NOTICE OF

PUBLIC MEETINGS. >> WE WILL GET THEM UP AND RUNNING. WE WILL HAVE -- WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PAIR CITY CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> THE MOTION PASSED 4-0. >> ON TO ORDINANCE FIRST

[9.1 CODE AMENDMENT -­ STREET PERFORMERS]

READING. 9.1.

>> CODE AMENDMENTS TREE PERFORMANCE.

ORDINANCE 2021-01. AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, FLORIDA BY AMENDING CHAPTER 70, STREETS, SIDEWALKS AND OTHER PUBLIC PLACES, ARTICLE FOUR, STREET PERFORMERS, BY AMENDING SECTION 172 TO ALLOW FOR PERMITS TO BE GRANTED ON A ROLLING BASIS REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR IN-PERSON APPLICATION : AND SECTIONS 170, 71, 172, 173, 174,

[03:55:06]

75, 176, 177, 178 TO EDIT FOR CLARITY WITHOUT CHANGING THEIR MEANING, PROVIDING SEPARABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS ORDINANCE WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION FOR THE CHANGES PROPOSED BY COMMISSIONER BECAUSE THERE WERE A GROUP OF PERFORMERS AND THEY CAME TO GET A PERMIT TO DO STREET PERFORMANCES.

THERE'S A $300 ANNUAL FEE BUT THEY WERE DENIED THE ABILITY TO GET IT BECAUSE WHEN THEY CAME TO APPLY.

THE APPLICATION. AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW IS SEPTEMBER. YOU HAVE TO OCTOBER 1, IF YOU DON'T APPLY IN THAT. YOU ARE OUT OF LUCK AND YOU DO NOT GET A PERMIT. SO THIS WILL CHANGE THE ORDINANCE AND ALLOW SOMEONE TO PLY -- APPLY ANYTIME OF THE YEAR

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

I WANT TO SAY YOU EXPLAINED IT PERFECTLY.

THIS IS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR EFFICIENCY.

WE ARE HELPING OUT OUR CONSTITUENTS.

THE FIRST RESPONDERS. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET THEIR ACOUSTIC LICENSE TO PLAY IN THE POCKET PARKS.

THAT'S EXCITING FOR THEM AND THE PERMIT DEPARTMENT BECAUSE, WE HAVE A SMALL WINDOW, WHEN ALL OF THE PERMITS HAVE TO BE DONE SIMULTANEOUSLY. THIS WILL BE GOOD BECAUSE IT WILL BE EASE ON OUR STAFF AND PEOPLE.

IT IS GREAT. SO I THINK YOU AND I HOPE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON MORE CHANGES LIKE THIS.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION, IF, THERE IS A UNANIMOUS VOTE TONIGHT AND OF COURSE STURGIS IS ABSENT, IF IT IS UNANIMOUS WE CAN START ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS AFTER THE FIRST READING. THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE UNLESS WE WERE DOING A PENALTY WHERE WE WERE FINDING PEOPLE, THERE'S A STATE IN THE CASE OF FLORIDA, OUT OF THE CITY OF CLEARWATER, THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO START ENFORCING OR UTILIZING NEW PROVISIONS OF THE CODE RIGHT NOW AFTER THE FIRST READING IF IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE CAN HAVE THIS FIRST RESPONDER MAN WHO CAN COME IN AND GET A PERMIT AFTER TONIGHT.

>> BANK YOU. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> THAT MOTION PASSES 4-0.

[10.1 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT]

>> ITEM 10.1. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

>> ORDINANCE 2020 -- 30 STATING ITS INTENT TO AMEND ORDINANCE 2003 -- 36 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN THE ADOPTED EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT BY RESOLUTION 2020 -- 37 AND APPROVING THE TRANSMITTAL OF SUCH PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE STATE LAND PLANNING AGENCY FOR REVIEW IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 163.3184 , FLORIDA STATUTES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERE ABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? I SEE NON-, THE PUBLIC HEARING S CLOSE.

>> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER ROSS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. HERE IS MY CONCERN.

THERE IS A NUMBER, IF YOU GO THROUGH THIS CAREFULLY, WE ARE ADOPTING AUTO MANDATES. AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE MUST DO CERTAIN THINGS. IN THIS POLICY THE CITY MUST IDENTIFY INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT IS FINE.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO AND HOW IS THAT GOING FORWARD.

HOW WILL WE PAY FOR THAT. >> THE CITY MUST DO ALL OF THIS.

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GOING TO THE ORDINANCE, THE CITY WILL TRACK THE BEST DATA FOR THE POPULATION. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. I JUST WANT, I WANT THE DEPARTMENT TO COME IN AND EXPLAIN HOW THIS WILL BE DONE,

WHEN WE WILL DO IT. >> SO YOU CAN ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. THAT WOLD BE GREAT.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M THE DIRECTOR.

ALL EXCELLENT QUESTIONS. I KNOW THE PACKAGE YOU ARE CONSIDERING DOES HAVE A NUMBER OF POLICIES THE MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLY IN YOUR REFERENCES, APPLIED DIRECTLY TO THE ACTIVITIES WE CURRENTLY CONDUCT.

PRIMARILY THROUGH THE RATING SYSTEM.

>> WITH RESPECT TO SEASONAL POPULATION IT WOULD BE VIEWED AT THE TIME'S AND ITS ANALYZATION. WITH RESPECT TO THE WATER SUPPLY

>> THE WATER SUPPLY ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND UPDATES WILL HAVE TO BE RE- BUDGETED EVERY FIVE YEARS.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

>> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> I HAVE REVIEWED WHAT SHE IS SAYING AND MOST ARE IN EFFECT. IT IS THE PROPERTY MOST VULNERABLE THAT WE PAY ATTENTION.

I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE PAID ATTENTION.

THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION, THE WATER SUPPLY, THE POPULATION WAS IN THE 20,000 SPIRIT I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME

FROM. >> SO THE WATER SUPPLY EXTENDS OUT TO THE PROPERTIES RESEARCH -- CURRENTLY SERVE.

>> FACE MIRRORED YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[11.1 BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE FIREFIGHTERS' AND POLICE OFFICERS' PENSION  PLAN]

>> THE MOTION PASSES 4-0. >> AGENDA ITEM 11.

BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS

PENSION PLAN. >> MOVED TO REAPPOINT WALTER.

>> MR. WALTER STURGES. >> I SECOND PICK.

>> UP A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD ANY DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[11.2 HOUSING AUTHORITY]

>> ITEM 11-POINT TO. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

-- ITEM 11-POINT TO. >> I HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND PERIOD SEE NONE. 11.2.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> THE MOTION PASSES 4-0.

[11.3 PUBLIC, EDUCATIONAL, AND GOVERNMENT (PEG)  CHANNEL COMMITTEE]

>> ITEM 11.3. PUBLIC INDICATION -- EDUCATIONAL

AND GOVERNMENT PEG CHANNEL. >> ARE MOVED TO APPROVE I MOVE

TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OPPOSED?

[04:05:11]

CALLED THE VOTE. >> IT PASSES 4-0.

[12. CITY MANAGER REPORTS ]

>> ITEM 12. CITY MANAGER REPORTS.

>> AS DISCUSSED EARLIER AT THE PARK DESIGN AND CONCEPT BE PRESENTED TO YOU ON JANUARY 19. THE GOAL HAS BEEN SET FOR WEDNESDAY JANUARY 27. I HAVE DISTRIBUTED LUNCH MENUS TO YOU SO WE DO NOT OVER ON THE BAR AND GRILL AT THE GOLF COURSE. PLEASE FILL THOSE OUT.

WITH THE EFFORTS OF -- I WILL BRING TO A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION AND HONOR OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN MONTH THAT THE CITY PRESENTS OR HAVE POSTED PHOTOS OF FORMER AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAYORS AND CITY COMMISSIONERS INCLUDING ALBERT AS WELL AS PATRICIA THOMPSON.

PLEASE PUT ON YOUR CALENDAR THE EXPLOSION ON FEBRUARY 3, 1971.

IN WHICH THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PLAYED A KEY ROLE. THIS IS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY.

WE DID TAKE OUT AN AD TODAY THEIR 50TH COMMEMORATIVE EDITION. SO I HOPE ALL OF YOU WILL ATTEND

THAT CEREMONY ON FEBRUARY 3. >> WE TIPPED THE FIRE ENGINE.

>> ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT AGAIN?

>> I AM SURE WE WILL. >> THANK YOU CITY MANAGER.

>> CITY ATTORNEY? >> NO REPORTS.

>> CITY CLERK? >> REPORT.

[15. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ]

ATTENTIONAL REPORT. >> ALL RIGHT.

CITY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. I STARTED IN THE LAST MEETING.

SO COMMISSIONER ROSS? MR. ROSS IS TALK ABOUT.

COMMISSIONER? >> LET'S HAVE A GREAT 2021.

>> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> ON THE 21ST, WE HAD THE TREEPLANTING, PUBLIC HOUSING, WE HAVE THE ENTIRE PLANNING STAFF OUT THERE IT WAS A NICE EVENT. I BELIEVE, IT WAS THE SECOND SATURDAY OF THE MONTH WILL BE THE FOOD GIVEAWAY.

I THINK IT STARTS AT 8:00 A.M. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT THEY ARE DOING ANY TESTING. YOU ARE ALL WELCOME TO COME TO THOSE EVENTS IF YOU WEAR YOUR MASK.

THAT IS IT. >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.

>> ALL RIGHT AND FINALLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEND OUR CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF PATRICK, I DON'T WANT TO BUTCHER HIS NAME. PATRICK S.

PATRICK WAS, MAYOR MILLER WOULD ALWAYS SAY, WHEN OFFERING CONDOLENCES, THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS A FABRIC AND WHEN WE LOSE SOMEONE, WE LOSE A THREAD IN THAT FABRIC.

THAT ALWAYS STAYED WITH ME. PATRICK WAS, ONE OF THE EARLY ORGANIZERS OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IN NASSAU COUNTY.

FROM THE STORY THAT I READ, HE WAS TRULY BELOVED IN THE COMMUNITY. SO, OUR THOUGHTS ARE WITH HIS FAMILY. OUR PRAYERS WITH MAYOR ALBERT'S FAMILY. AFTER, RIGHT AFTER THE HOLIDAYS, TO INCREDIBLE STORIES OF FIRST RESPONDERS, THERE IS THE JOGGER WHO WENT OUTSIDE HIS APARTMENT OR TOWNHOUSE FOR HIS MORNING JOG, AND GOT NO LESS THAN 1,000 FEET AND COLLAPSED ON THE PAVEMENT. A PASSERBY STARTED GIVING HIM CPR, AND THE FIRST RESPONDERS WERE THERE.

THEY NOTIFIED 911 AND HIS HEART STOPPED AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET IT GOING AGAIN. I BELIEVE ON THE WAY TO THE HOSPITAL, IT STOPPED AGAIN. THEY WERE ABLE TO RESTART IT.

SO, JUST INCREDIBLE WORK BY A CITIZEN, AND OUR PARAMEDICS AND

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OUR POLICE OFFICERS. THEN I SAW ANOTHER FACEBOOK POST ABOUT ANOTHER CPR INVOLVING A POLICE OFFICER.

>> OFFICER MITCHELL. >> I'M SORRY, YES, OFFICER MITCHELL. JUST INCREDIBLE.

MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF MR. WILLIAM M.

THE RECENT PASSING OF HIS GRANDFATHER, JIM DUE TO COVID.

FINALLY, MAYOR MILLER, AND LORI, WE WANT TO HOPE FOR THEM TO HAVE A SPEEDY RECOVERY AS WELL FROM COVID.

SO OUR BEST WISHES. AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.