Dec 01, 2020 Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> CALLED TO ORDER THIS IS THE FERNANDINA BEACH CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING.

WOULD YOU PLEASE DO THE ROLL CALL. ROLL CALL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAN WE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND STATE STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION BY PASTOR DR. MARK CHARLES SENIOR OF MEMORIAL UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

>> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> LET'S PRAY TOGETHER. >> ALMIGHTY GOD WHOM WE LIVE, WE HAVE YOUR UNDYING LOVE AND MERCY. WE ARE GATHERED IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSIONERS. WE REMEMBER TO PRAY AND GRANT OUR COMMISSIONERS WISDOM THEY NEED TO GUIDE OUR CITY THROUGH THESE TIMES. DO PRAY FOR THEM AND WE PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE OF OUR CITY AS THEY DO THEIR PART TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY AS BEST THEY CAN.

BARBER COMMUNITY AND OUR NATION, WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE WITH THE IMPACT OF COVID-19.

WE PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH ILLNESS. WE ASK FOR COMFORT FOR THOSE PREPARED WE PRAY FOR ENDURANCE AND COMPASSION FOR EVERYONE. WE ASK THAT YOU HELP ALL OF THE BUSINESSES AS THEY CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE. WE ASKED FOR YOUR WISDOM IN EVERYTHING WE DISCUSSED IN EVERYTHING WE DO. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

>> THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM FOUR-POINT ONE. THE PRESENTATION OF THE NASSAU

HUMANE SOCIETY. DID WE SEE A DOG OUT THERE? >> IS TOO COLD.

[4.2 PRESENTATION -­ FERNANDINA BEACH MAIN STREET PROGRAM]

>> OKAY. >> SO ITEM FOUR-POINT SUPERIOR PRESENTATION FROM THE FERNANDINA

BEACH MAIN STREET PROGRAM. >> GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU.

>> I'M GOOD. >> I LIVE IN FERNANDINA BEACH. SO THIS IS MY LAST UPDATE TO THIS ESTEEMED BODY SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOME PERSONAL WORDS. I HAVE BEEN HONORED TO HAVE THIS POSITION EVEN THOUGH I STARTED OUT AS AN INTERN. TONIGHT, I HAVE THE REAL DIRECTOR HERE WITH ME AND SHE WILL BE GIVING PART OF THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.

YOU HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE IN EVERYTHING WE HAVE TRIED TO DO DOWNTOWN.

I APPRECIATE THAT MORE THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE. THIS PROGRAM IS STARTING TO FEEL LIKE A TEAM COMING TOGETHER. I THINK THAT IS DUE TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AS WELL AS CHARTER OFFICES. I HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CITY STAFF OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS. AND MANY BEFORE THAT IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY.

DURING THAT TIME I CAME TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CARE ABOUT THE CITY.

I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE. AS I GIVE MY UPDATE, I THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. SO THE UPDATE FOR THIS EVENING, IF I CAN FOLLOW MR. MARTIN'S DIRECTIONS. THIS PAST QUARTER, AND COVID HAS BEEN THE UPPERMOST IN OUR WORLD.

WE HAVE CONTINUED THE COMMUNICATION. OVER THIS PERIOD, WE SENT OUT NOTICES BY E-MAIL THAT WERE ALL RELATED TO COVID. THERE WERE MANY FROM DIFFERENT BOARDS. SO, WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST TO KEEP BUSINESSES AWARE OF WHAT'S COMING AND WHAT IS AFFECTING THEM. WE HAVE SPONSORED AS MANY

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WE SPONSORED CONTESTS, WE HAD SEVERAL PARTICIPANT WHO SUBMITTED THEIR PHOTOS.

WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO SET UP A TABLE TO SELL SOME MERCHANDISE, NOW WE HAVE WE HAVE CALENDARS WITH BUSINESSES FROM DOWNTOWN, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE EVERYTHING THAT IS ON SALE. WE RECEIVED A GRANT TO COMPLETE OUR REGULATORY SIGNING.

WE ARE HOLDING OFF ON THE BEGINNING OF THAT BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE THE COMMERCIAL SIGNAGE AT THE SAME TIME AND THERE IS A LITTLE BLOCKS ON WHICH BUSINESSES ARE WITH US IN WHICH BUSINESSES ARE COMING IN AND WHICH ARE MOVING LOCATIONS.

WE ARE PUTTING OFF THE GOLF CART EVENT. ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD LEAD TO CONGESTION THAT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC. WE DID NOT WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO ANYTHING THAT WAS UNSAFE. NATURALLY ARTWORK FUNDRAISING AS BEEN IMPACTED.

YOU WILL NOTICE I HAVE STATED ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE AT THE NEXT PAGE, SOMETHING I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT. WE HIRED A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

WE ALSO HAVE FACEMASK FOR SALE. ANYTHING YOU WANT FOR SALE JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE WILL GET FOR

YOU. >> IF YOU WILL REMEMBER BACK TO THE VIRTUAL SHRIMP FESTIVAL WHEN WE ASKED STUDENTS DOWNTOWN TO COME THAT WAS SO WELL RECEIVED WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO DO IT AGAIN. SO, THEY WILL ALL BE PARTICIPATING IN A CONTEST TO SEE WHO IS THE WINNER AS WELL AS ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT CHOSE TO DO THEIR OWN DECORATIONS.

THAT SEEMS TO BE GOING OVER VERY WELL. I GOT A CALL TODAY FROM A CITY EMPLOYEE THAT WAS A WELCOME CALL, SHE SAID SHE WAS DOWNTOWN LAST NIGHT AND SAID IT LOOKED LIKE A POSTCARD. SHE WAS VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE. WE HAVE COMPLETED THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE DATA WE HAD AVAILABLE. THE NEXT STEP IS TO VISIT WITH MANY PERSONALLY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO WAY TO GET THE DATA. THAT WILL BE SURE HE DID AS PART OF THE EXPANSION PROJECT. SO, NOW I AM SAYING WE HAVE HAD MANY AND SHE HAS BEEN HERE SINCE OCTOBER. SO, SHE IS A FAST LEARNER. SHE COMES TO US WITH ALL SORTS OF SKILL SETS, COMPETENCIES AND BACKGROUNDS THAT I DID NOT HAVE. I THINK WE WILL BE EXTREMELY HAPPY TO SEE WHAT SHE CAN DO. SHE OWNED A HOME HERE AND SHE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMUNITY THEN DECIDED TO MOVE DOWN PERMANENTLY WHEN SHE SAW THE JOB OPENING AND WAS OFFERED A POSITION. WITH NO FURTHER ADO, I WILL TURN THIS OVER SO SHE CAN FINISH.

>> LISA FINKELSTEIN, I LIVE IN FERNANDINA BEACH. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND THANK YOU TO ARLENE. SHE SINGS MY PRAISES WAY TOO MUCH AND I WILL TRY TO LIVE UP

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ALSO, TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC SAFETY WHILE DOING SO. WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THOSE CONSTRAINTS. WE ARE MAKING SURE WE COMMUNICATE WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT HAS BEEN IMPORTANT AND PROVIDE THEM WITH THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE LOCALLY AND AT THE COUNTY AND FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL. WE ARE WORKING ON THINGS LIKE ARLENE MENTIONED. THE PAJAMA CONTEST MOVING IT FROM A PARTY AND ALLOWING US TO PROMOTE SHOPPING DOWNTOWN. AND WE WANT TO ENGAGE PEOPLE AND GIVE THEM A REASON TO HAVE FUN.

PEOPLE WERE REALLY ENJOYING THEMSELVES. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COLLABORATING WITH THE CITY AND CITY STAFF TO ADAPT AND TO MANAGE THE BUSINESS PROMOTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE COMING MONTHS SO WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING.

WE HAVE A TRAINING PROGRAM. WE WILL START IN JANUARY WITH A PANEL DISCUSSION WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB MOVING FROM ONLINE SALES AND EXPANDING THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE. THIS IS HELPING PEOPLE EXPAND THEIR SKILL SETS AS THEY MOVE FORWARD INTO A NEW ENVIRONMENT. WE ARE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO COLLABORATE WITH EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO AUGMENT THOSE PROGRAMS AND OFFER MORE TO THE BUSINESSES AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AS ARLENE ALSO MENTIONED, THE MAINSTREAM -- MAIN STREET EXPANSION IS A BIG FOCUS OF OUR SPIRIT WE WANT TO SHARE THE VISION WITH THE DISTRICT. WE ARE LOOKING AT AIN'T ME ANGRY BUT IN A NEW ENVIRONMENT.

POSSIBLY GOING LOCKBOX BLOCK TO KEEP THEM SMALLER. WE WANT TO PROMOTE A FEELING OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHARE INFORMATION FOR THAT AREA. WE WANT TO PRESERVE AND REVITALIZE THE BUILDING AND MAINTAIN PROPERTIES AND ESTABLISH A CONSISTENT PLAN SO THAT AREA ALSO HAS EIGHT LOOK LIKE DOWNTOWN HAS A LOOK THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE ARE FOCUSING ON GOING FORWARD. FINALLY THE REGULATORY SIGNAGE. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE DESIGNER TO MOVE THROUGH THAT NEXT PHASE. WE ARE WORKING TO GET EVERYTHING DESIGN.

WE ARE HOPING TO GET APPROVAL BY THE END OF THE YEAR. BUT IF WE CAN WE SHOULD SEE SHIPPING IN JANUARY AND THE SIGNS BEING INSTALLED. WE HAVE HELD OFF A BIT ON THE UPDATING OF SCIENCE BECAUSE, WE FELT THERE HAS BEEN SOME TURNOVER OR MOVEMENT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ACCURATE. THEN WE WANT TO GET ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE SO THE EXPENSES KEPT TO A MINIMUM. AND WE WANT THEM AS UPDATED AS POSSIBLE.

LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE UPDATE THEM ON A CERTAIN SCHEDULE. THAT IS THE PLAN.

BEING NEW TO THE COMMUNITY AND IN THIS POSITION I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND THE COMMISSIONERS COMING IN AND THE STAFF AND ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO THE COMMUNITY OF THE BOARD. AND I WANT TO GIVE MY THANKS TO

ARLENE FOR HER SERVICE AND THE GOOD JOB SHE HAS DONE. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER QUACK

STANCH I KNOW YOU WILL DO A GOOD JOB AS ARLENE DID A GOOD JOB. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN?

>> ARLENE, YOU HAVE LEFT YOUR MARK ON THIS CITY FOR THE BETTER.

FOR ALL OF THAT, THANK YOU. ENJOY RETIREMENT. STICK WITH IT THIS TIME.

>> ARE YOU STILL GOING TO BE HERE ARLENE ORACLE WAKE? >> WITH YOU MEAN IN THIS GROUP?

THE COMMUNITY. >> YOU HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY COMMUNITY.

WELL DONE. ARLENE, YOUR LAST MEETING MY LAST MEETING.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW I FILLED THE SEAT SHE VACATED. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. NOT ONLY IN THIS ORGANIZATION BUT THE COMMUNITY.

YOU'RE A GREAT PERSON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>

[4.1 PRESENTATION -­ NASSAU HUMANE SOCIETY ]

>> SHE IS 5-YEARS-OLD. SHE GOT WITH US IN SEPTEMBER. SHE SEEMS TO BE HOUSEBROKEN.

NO SMALL KIDS BUT GETS ALONG WITH OTHER DOGS. DEFINITELY BRING THEM FOR A MEET

AND GREET. SHE IS GREAT. >> SHE IS USUALLY NOT THIS TIMID. I AM SHOCKED SHE'S ACTING LIKE THIS.

SHE IS QUIET BUT SHE'S USUALLY MORE PERKY THAN TONIGHT. I THINK THIS IS THE BIGGEST ROOM

SHE HAS BEEN IN. >> SHE IS BEAUTIFUL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

[4.3 PROCLAMATION ­- NATIONAL AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE MONTH]

THE FIRST IS THE NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE MONTH. >> HELLO HOW IS EVERYONE.

>> GOOD. >> WHEREAS WE ARE THE FIRST TO LIVE.

THE NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS HAVE ENRICHED EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIVES AND HELPED TO SHAPE THE AMERICA WE KNOW TODAY. THEIR TRADITIONS AND VALUES INSPIRE THE IDEAS AND DETERMINATION THAT ARE THE FRAMEWORK OF THE UNITED STATES. AS WE REFLECT ON OUR HISTORY WE MUST ACKNOWLEDGE THE DEPLORABLE CHAPTERS OF VIOLENCE AGAINST NATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

WHILE WE CANNOT UNDO THE PAST, WE CAN SET OUT TOGETHER TO FORGE A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR PROGRESS AND HOPE ACROSS INDIAN COUNTRY AND THE AMERICAN LANDSCAPE YOUR IN 1944 AT THE NATIONAL CONGRESS OF THE INDIANS WAS ESTABLISHED TO PRESERVE THEIR SOVEREIGN RIGHTS UNDER TREATIES AND AGREEMENTS WITH THE UNITED STATES TO PROTECT THE INDIAN TRADITION, CULTURAL AND RELIGIOUS RIGHTS. TO SEEK EQUITABLE BENEFITS AND SERVICES OF ALL PROGRAMS FOR AMERICAN INDIAN PEOPLE AND GOVERNMENTS. TO PROVIDE THE COMMON WELFARE TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIGHT FOR AMERICAN INDIAN SPIRIT WHEREAS NATIVE AMERICAN AWARENESS WEEK BEGAN IN 1976, IN RECOGNITION IT WAS EXPANDED IN AUGUST 1990, DESIGNATING NOVEMBER NATIONAL

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THEREFORE, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME THROUGH THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH, DECLARE NOVEMBER 2020 AS NATIONAL AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE MONTH.

WE ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO OBSERVE THIS WITH CEREMONIES AND ACTIVITIES.

CONGRATULATIONS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> ONE OF THE LARGEST WOMEN ORGANIZATIONS IN THE WORLD, WE HAVE 185,000 PAYING MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND MEXICO AND CANADA. PART OF THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE A NATIONAL PROGRAM TO SUPPORT AND ASSIST THE NATIVE AMERICAN POPULATION.

SOME OF THAT SUPPORT IS INDIAN SCHOOL SPIRIT UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE ALL WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI.

I DON'T LIKE THAT BUT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. WE ALSO SUPPORT SUMMER CAMPS AND OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ESCAPE ME AT THE MOMENT. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. >> THANK YOU WELL DONE. >> IT IS MY HONOR TO PROCLAIM

[4.4 PROCLAMATION -­ ANCHORS AWEIGH CHARTERS, INC.]

ANCHOR AWAY CHARTERS. >> MY NAME IS STEPHEN. >> I WILL READ THE PROCLAMATION.

SO THIS IS ANOTHER ONE. THE FIRST MEETING I TOOK AFTER I GOT ELECTED SEVEN YEARS AGO WAS THIS. I'M HAPPY THAT MY LAST PROCLAMATION IS THIS ONE.

IT IS A LONG TIME COMING. >> WHEREAS ESTABLISHED IN 1997 BY TWO PEOPLE, WANDA DO YOU WANT TO JOIN US? ANCHORS AWAY CHARTERS AND INC. PROVIDES MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN WITH AN OPPORTUNITY OTHERWISE UNATTAINABLE DUE TO LIMITATIONS. BEING ON THE WATER BUBBLES CHANGES, IT EXPANDS HEALTH AND WELLNESS, CREATIVITY, HAPPINESS AND RELAXATION IN A DEEP CONNECTION WITH NATURE. CAPTAIN STEVEN WAS DRIVEN BY THEIR PASSION AND DEDICATION TO SERVE EVERYONE. OFFERING AMERICANS WITH THE DISABILITIES ACT, 88 TO HAVE CHARTER TOURS SO THEY KNOW FISHING IS BEING ON THE WATER AND THERAPY FOR THE SOUL.

WHERE THEY ARE NOT A LOCAL -- IS A LOCAL NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION, IT IS FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES AS WELL AS THOSE DIAGNOSED WITH TYPE TERMINAL ILLNESSES.

WE ARE COMPLIANT WITH A VESSEL, GUESTS ARE FREE TO ESCAPE FROM THEIR DAILY ISSUES AND THEY CAN FISH, SIGHTSEE OR GO THROUGH THE TYPE, WORRY FREE AND PROTECTED IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

FOR 23 YEARS, YOUNG AND OLD, SF DELIGHTED IN THEIR CUSTOMS WITH SPECIALTY CARE, ADAPTIVE EQUIPMENT AND ALL WHICH ENHANCES THEIR ABILITY TO ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL DAY ON THE WATER.

WHEREAS CAPTAIN STEPHEN AND WANDA ARE TO BE COMMENDED FOR THEIR WORKS, BY PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE EXCITEMENT OF THE OPEN OCEAN.

I NOW JOHN MILLER, AS THE MAYOR OF FERNANDINA BEACH DO EXPRESS SINCERE APPRECIATION TO YOUR GROUP AND THANK YOU FOR REMINDING US EXPERIENCING THE GREAT OUTDOORS MILLS NO

BOUNDARIES. CONGRATULATIONS. >> MY NAME IS V.

WANDA AND I STARTED THIS A FEW YEARS AGO. IT IS VERY TOUCHING WHEN YOU DO

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IT IS REALLY SPECIAL. HE WEIGHED 63 POUNDS IN HIS WHEELCHAIR.

THIS IS SPECIAL FOR US TO DO THIS. THANK YOU CITY FOR HELPING US TO KEEP THIS UP.

[5.1 CONSERVATION / ENVIRONMENT]

AGENDA AT THE BEHEST OF COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> BUS MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT TREE CANOPY. IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS WE ALL KNOW THAT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH HOMEBUILDING IN THE DOWNTOWN THE SANITY. A BYPRODUCT OF THAT IS WE ARE LOSING OLD TREES. I HAVE RECEIVED CALLS ABOUT THE LOSS OF A MAGNOLIA TREE.

FROM A HOME THAT WAS GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED AND WE COULD NOT FIT IT ON THE LOT WITHOUT TAKING THE TREE DOWN. BUT THE JUSTIFICATION FOR BREAKING THE TREE DOWN WAS THE ROOTS WERE UPROOTING THE SIDEWALK TO THE EXISTING HOME WHICH IS THAN EVEN THE SIDEWALK TO THE HOME. SO, WHAT I AM POINTING OUT IS LOOPHOLES, AND WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THE TREES DOWN. GOING FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE FUTURE COMMISSION TO ADDRESS HOW WE CAN STRENGTHEN THE TREE ORDINANCES TO PROTECT THE TREES. BECAUSE, THIS SHOULD NOT BE

HAPPENING. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> ITEM 5.2, WATERFRONT

[5.2 WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT]

CAN'T I JUST WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE. I WANT TO BE UPDATED ON THE

PROCESS, OF WHAT'S GOING ON. >> THANK YOU. THE CITY ENGINEER WILL MEET WITH A TEAM AT THEIR AUGUST IN SAINT AUGUSTINE ON MONDAY TO GO OVER THE COORDINATION AND THE NEXT STEPS. I EXPECT THERE WILL BE REVISED DRAWINGS THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION WHETHER THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING IN JANUARY.

THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT FOR DESIGN ELEMENTS FOR THE PARKING LOT.

YOU SHOULD HAVE A BETTER UPDATE AT THE NEXT MEETING ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS.

>> DO YOU SEE THEM DOING A COMBINED PRESENTATION. >> THE WHOLE INTENT IS THE PARK WILL OVERLAY THE RESILIENCY EFFORTS. WE WANT TO LOCKDOWN THE RESILIENCY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE EFFORTS ARE COORDINATED AND ONE DOES NOT

MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THE OTHER. >> GREAT. >> ITEM 5.3, MARINA.

[5.3 MARINA]

THIS WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA FROM COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> I THINK WE CAN FINALLY TAKE THIS OFF. OASIS STARTED TODAY AND EXCEPT FOR THE FUEL LINES BEING PURSUED , WE TALKED ABOUT THE MARINA AND IT IS PRETTY MUCH DONE.

SO, WHY DON'T WE TAKE IT OFF OF THE AGENDA. >> GREAT, CONGRATULATIONS.

[5.4 OCEAN HIGHWAY AND PORT AUTHORITY (OHPA) ­]

>> ITEM 5.4. THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA FROM COMMISSIONER ROSS.

I ASSUME YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THIS ONE OUT. >> I THINK THIS IS ONGOING.

I AM GUILTY. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH? >> HAVE WE HAD A RESPONSE FROM A

LETTER REGARDING THE GREENSTREET PROPERTY? >> I HAVE HAD AN E-MAIL RESPONSE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ACKNOWLEDGING THEY HAVE RECEIVED THE LETTER

BUT I HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE LETTER. >> ITEM 5.5, COVID OPEN

[5.5 COVID-­19]

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DISCUSSION. >> THE CITY MANAGER WILL PUT UP THE SLIDE THAT I ALWAYS PREPARE

FOR THIS DISCUSSION. >> THE TOP SLIDE IS FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.

THE BOTTOM SLIDE IS THE PAST TWO WEEKS. ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE REFLECTING WHAT IS GOING ON NATIONALLY WITH THE INCREASE IN COVID CASES. YOU CAN SEE THE PATTERN THERE.

SO, WE ARE GETTING WORSE NOT BETTER. WE HAVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THE MASK ORDINANCE. I ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP, VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND VIRTUAL ATTENDANT TO MEETINGS. SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS WERE ABSENT AND THEY WERE FLAT OUT FEARFUL OF BEING IN A ROOM ON THIS DAIS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS SEPARATED, THEY WERE IN FEAR OF THEIR HEALTH. AND IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND ATTORNEY, THE GOVERNOR SAID YOU HAVE TO MEET IN PERSON, BUT SEVERAL SOUTH FLORIDA AGENCIES, SAID WE WILL NOT DO THAT. IF PEOPLE WANT TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY THEY CAN.

I WAS AT ONE MEETING, THAT WAS MISSING A KEY MEMBER THAT COULD HAVE ADDED A LOT TO THE DISCUSSION AND THE DECISION BUT HE WAS AT HOME. SO I THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS THE OPTION IF THEY WANT TO ATTEND, VIRTUALLY THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. THE REASON THESE COMMITTEES EXIST IS TO GET THE BEST DECISION FROM THE BEST KNOWLEDGE. AND THE GOVERNOR'S RULING IS PROHIBITING THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD PROTECT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND HAVE THEM

PARTICIPATE. >> I WILL RESPOND TO THAT TOO. BUT I WANT TO LOOK AT SOME NUMBERS. THE NUMBERS IN NOVEMBER, THE CASES INCREASED AND THE DEPTH BY FIVE. WHAT IS DISTURBING RIGHT NOW IS THE POSITIVITY RATE HAS JUMPED TO 141 OF THE THING I WANT TO MENTION IS, THERE IS FREE TESTING ON THE SECOND SATURDAY AT MLK, WHERE THERE IS A FOOD GIVEAWAY AND FREE TESTING ON THE 22ND AT FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH.

THOSE ARE FREE. THOSE ARE FREE TO THE PUBLIC. LAST MONTH, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT LINE FOR THE TESTING. RELATIVE TO THE MEETINGS.

A LOT OF PLACES IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA, WE ARE GETTING A QUORUM BUT WE ARE ALLOWING THE ZOOM MEETING SPIRIT IT IS INTERESTING THAT THEY ARE DOING ZOOM MEETINGS.

I AGREE, WE SHOULD MAKE PROVISIONS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED OR AT RISK SO THEY

CAN ATTEND THE MEETING SPIRIT. >> MY CONCERN IS, IF THEY ARE MAKING DECISIONS AND THEY MAY SAY IT WAS NOT APPROVED BY THE GOVERNOR BECAUSE IT WAS ASSUMED MEETING.

>> AFTER OUR MEETING LAST WEEK, I CONTACTED THE CITY ATTORNEY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD CITY.

WE DISCUSSED IT. AND I SAID WHAT DO YOU THINK. THEY ARE GETTING THE SAME REQUEST. THE CITY COUNCIL IS MEETING LIKE YOU ARE.

MY BIGGEST FEAR, AND I AGREE WITH THIS, ANY DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE, WITH NO PHYSICAL

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THEY ARE MAKING ADVISORY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD. THE HDC THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, THOSE ARE QUASIJUDICIAL BOARDS AND SOMEBODY COULD CHALLENGE THE RULING AND NOT PAY A FINE.

WHAT ABOUT IF SOMEONE GETS APPROVAL TO BUILD A ONE MILLION-DOLLAR HOME AND SOMEONE CHALLENGES THE DECISION. I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT DECISION OVERRULED.

THAT CERTIFICATE EVEN IF IT WAS BACK TO THE CITY. I WOULD HAVE TO CALL A SCAPEGOAT. I'M GOING TO SAY, I WOULD NOT LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN.

I WOULDN'T WANT THE CITY PUT IN THAT POSITION. I CHALLENGE CITY STAFF WITH WHY CAN'T WE BE ADULTS AND FIGURE OUT WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO CAN BE THERE AND WHO CAN'T.

SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE IN CANCER TREATMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT, LIKE THEY SAID, HOW DO YOU CHOOSE, HOW DO YOU MAKE THEM WHAT THEY ARE.

EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE THERE. I HAVE A BIG CONCERN. I CAN CHECK OTHER PLACES.

NO ONE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA IS DOING THAT. IT'S ALL SOUTH FLORIDA.

MANY AGENCIES HAVE 50 ATTORNEYS ON THEIR STAFF. THEY CAN MITIGATE WITHOUT PAYING

THE COST. I THINK IT COULD BE A MESS. >> THERE WERE ONLY FOUR MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE AND THEY HAVE NO VARIANCE CASES. IF THEY DID HAVE ONE, IT WAS APPROVED BY THE APPLICANT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOURFOLD SPIRIT A QUORUM OF FOUR IS REQUIRED FOR EACH BOARD. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MEMBERS.

THE DESIGN ELEMENT ON SECOND STREET WAS BEFORE THE BOARD. SO THEY HAD FOUR PEOPLE MAKING

THE DECISION. >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE CAN DO, IT SEEMS HYPOCRITICAL THAT WHEN WE WERE NOT AS BAD AS WE ARE TODAY WE COULD HAVE VIRTUAL MEETING SPIRIT I DON'T KNOW IF IT TAKES MAYORS OR CITY MANAGERS, SOMEONE NEEDS TO TELL THE GOVERNOR.

WAKE UP. YOUR ACTIONS ARE HURTING THE STATE.

THE HURTING LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT, HE NEEDS TO STEP UP.

HE NEEDS TO DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND AND SAY WE ARE GOING BACK TO VIRTUAL MEETING SPIRIT I

THINK WE NEED TO GET THIS TO AS MANY COMMUNITIES AS WE CAN. >> I SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU.

MY SECTION OF THE BAR AS TRIED THIS. THAT IS BECAUSE HE HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH HIS DECISIONS. YESTERDAY, AND I HEARD THESE WORDS FROM HIM, ANY OF THE SUPERINTENDENTS THAT WERE CONSIDERING GOING BACK TO VIRTUAL SCHOOLING AND SOME COUNTIES THAT HAVE HIGH CASES, HE CALLED THEM A DIFFERENT NAME. I DON'T THINK THIS WILL GO BACKWARD SPIRIT WE ARE NOT GIVING UP. WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE FIGHTING FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND I DON'T CARE WHICH TOWN YOU ARE IN.

YOU WILL PROBABLY HAVE THE HIGHEST RISK AGE GROUPS ON YOUR BOARD THAT HAVE THE TIME AND EXPERIENCE. WE DON'T THINK THIS WILL CHANGE. I WISH WE COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT

RESULT. >> SO THE QUORUM IS REQUIRED. AND IF YOU HAVE THAT, DOES THAT

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SAY, THAT THE CONSUMERS VOTE DOESN'T COUNT. >> SO THE PHYSICAL QUORUM IS THERE AND THE PEOPLE ON ZOOM CAN VOTE. SO, THEY NEED TO WORK IT OUT AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE PHYSICAL QUORUM THEY WILL JUST HAVE TO POSTPONE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. COMMISSIONER ROSS?

>> I AGREE WITH THE VICE MAYOR. >> I WATCHED THE PRESS CONFERENCE AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

YOU ARE ONE 100% RIGHT. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[6. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ]

>> ONTO SECTION SIX. PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE

CONSENT AGENDA. >> MY NAME IS JULIA. HOPEFULLY EVERYONE HAD A GOOD THANKSGIVING. I WAS NOT PLANNING ON COMING TO THE MEETING.

BUT FOR ME THIS IS A LAST-MINUTE DECISION BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME STREET INCIDENTS LATELY. OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, THEY ARE WEIGHING HEAVILY ON MY MIND.

ONE WAS A SITUATION I HAD GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PAPERWORK I HANDED YOU IS A

TREE REPORT. >> I'M SORRY. CAN YOU RESET THE TIMER.

>> I'M SORRY, HE WANTS YOU TO RESET THE TIMER. >> THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE UP FOR REMOVAL. IT IS A TREE REPORT THAT OF THE INSANITY OF THE CITY.

I HAD A COPY. I DON'T THINK IN BLACK-AND-WHITE IT WILL BE HARD.

THE ROOTS WERE CRACKING ACROSS THE WALKWAY AND BECAUSE IT WAS ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

EVERY TREE IN OUR CITY IS CLOSE TO AN ELECTRIC LINE. I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE ALLOWING HEALTHY TREES TO BE REMOVED. THIS REPORT ALSO REFERENCES A CONCLUSION BASED UPON A POTENTIAL HAZARD BECAUSE IT GOES THROUGH THE FRONT WALKWAY. THE IRONY IS, AND THIS SHOULD NOT BE LOST ON ANYONE. THE IRONY IS, THIS HOUSE WAS SLATED TO BE DEMOLISHED.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN A PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED THAT ANY REFERENCE TO YOUR FRONT WALKWAY AND THE FRONT DOOR IS IRRELEVANT. AND THE HOUSE AND THE FRONT DOOR WILL BE REMOVED. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE A PRECURSOR AS A REASON TO CONSIDER A TREATMENT REMOVAL. THIS IS A LARGE LOT. IT IS 100 BY 53.

IT IS BY MLK AND ELM STREET. IT IS NOT A SMALL LOT. THIS TURNED INTO A HUGE BOOK --

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DEBACLE TRYING TO REMOVE THE TREE TREE -- >> THE TIMES UP.

>> THE HOME WILL BE IN THIS LOT? >> WE DON'T NO. >> I JUST CAN'T TELL.

IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE SAYING THAT IT WAS GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THE POWERLINE SPIRIT THIS CREATED A ONE-SIDED TREE. I DON'T SEE HOW A TWO-STORY HOME AND GO IN THERE.

>> I E-MAILED THE CITY MANAGER AND DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE. THE PROPERTY OWNER DID DEVELOP SOME REPORTS. THE REPORTS ARE INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND A DOCTOR TO GIVE YOU AN OPINION. SO THE HOMEOWNER, THOUGHT THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE TREE WAS PUT IN, THAT IT WAS LEANING TO ONE SIDE AND THE ROOT STRUCTURE THAT CREATED A TRIPPING HAZARD ON THE SIDEWALK. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS ISSUED A PERMIT.

MY POINT IS THAT, WHEN YOU WILL DEMOLISH A HOME, SHOULDN'T THERE BE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT A TREE SURVEY AND I THINK TO HIS POINT, THERE'S ANOTHER LOT THERE WILL BE A HOUSE BUILT ON A VACANT LOT. THERE IS A LARGE TREE IN THE BACKYARD.

THE HOMEOWNER RECEIVED A VARIANCE FROM 25 FEET-12V. SO THEY GAINED 13 FEET IN WHICH YOU WOULD THINK THE TREE WOULD NOT BE IN DANGER. THEY ARE BUILDING A VERY LARGE PORCH AND THAT TREE IS IN DANGER OF COMING DOWN. ONE OF THE REGULATORY PROBLEMS IS THAT THE HDC HAS GUIDELINES FOR HISTORIC BUT NO TREE GUIDELINES.

THERE ARE LOOPHOLES IN THE REGULATION. ONE IS TO INCREASE THE TREE

CANOPY. AND THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING. >> THEY PREEMPTED US AND SAID.

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>> I'M JUST FRUSTRATED BY THE WHOLE THING AND I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS THE WHOLE TIME.

>> WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN DO. WHEN WE GET ITEMS THAT COME UP IT'S FRUSTRATING. I DO BELIEVE THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS PROACTIVE IN ENCOURAGING PEOPLE, WHEN EVALUATING TREES TO MAINTAIN THEM FOR THE GOOD OF THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND THE CITY. THEY TOOK NOTES IN SEVERAL CITY THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME.

SOMEONE IN ANOTHER CITY USE THAT LOOPHOLE AS A REFERENCE. >> IF I AM INTERPRETING WHAT I AM HEARING. THERE CAN BE BETTER COORDINATION.

I THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS IT WILL BE A BIGGER PROBLEM. WE ARE IN FILLING LOTS RIGHT NOW. I THINK THERE CAN BE SOME COORDINATION INCLUDING I HAVE RECEIVED TWO CALLS. I RECEIVED ONE YESTERDAY. TO HAVE THE RESPONSE THAT I CANNOT DO ANYTHING, THAT I AM POWERLESS, THAT IS THE WORST FEELING IN THE WORLD.

I HAVE TO SAY THAT TO A CITIZEN. HE SAID IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SAVE ONE OF THE BEAUTIFUL TREES. SO I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ROSS AND VICE MAYOR, LET'S HAVE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW CAN WE CAN AVOID THE SITUATIONS.

>> THIS IS IN DANGER OF CAUSING DAMAGE TO PERSONS OR PROPERTIES. I WAS LOOKING AT PHOTOGRAPHS.

I'M A LAWYER. IT IS DAMAGE TO PROPERTY. IT MAY NOT BE A SIDEWALK, BUT THIS IS COMING OUT. SO, THERE ARE, THIS IS A POLICY DECISION AND WE WILL DO WHAT YOU

NEED US TO DO. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

[7. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[8.1 INDIGO (BILLY CASPER) GOLF AGREEMENT]

-- MODERNA. >> ITEM EIGHT. INDIGO.

>> WE HAVE AGREED TO A 60 DAY EXTENSION. WE WILL BRING BACK THIS

DISCUSSION. >> I WILL WORK WITH OFFICIALS TO CRAFT A MEMO EXTENDING THE

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AGREEMENT. >> I THINK THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

GOING FORWARD. THE FIRST CONCERN IS, HOW IS THE CITY GOING TO DEAL WITH THE $2 MILLION LIABILITY. THE GOLF COURSE HAS LOST MONEY SINCE 2012.

SINCE 2012, THE GOLF COURSE HAS LOST $450,000 PER YEAR. TO COVER IT, THE GENERAL FUND THIS IS WHAT BROUGHT THE CITY OTHERS WHO SAY WE CAN'T KEEP DOING WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE 2013 WHICH IS GOING BACK AND FORTH, ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL.

SO NOW IT IS AT $2 MILLION. THERE ARE FOUR OPTIONS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR YOU CAN PAY IT OFF WITH AN UNRESTRICTED RESERVE FUND OR USUAL COMBINATION.

I THINK IN THE NEAR FUTURE AS PART OF THE NEGOTIATION, WITH WE WILL DO WITH THE $2 MILLION NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED. IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO CONTINUE ADDING ACH YEAR TO WHAT GOES UP YEAR AFTER YEAR. TAKE MY NEXT QUESTION, HOW WILL THE CITY FUND THE GOLF COURSE CAPITAL NEEDS. THAT IS A PROBLEM ACROSS THE CITY.

THEY HAVE $685,000 OF CAPITAL NEEDS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDES REPLACING THE GOLF COURSE. THERE IS NO PLAN AS TO WHERE THE MONEY WILL COME FROM. SO, I WOULD THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WILL REPLACE IT AND WHAT WE WILL DO WITH THE MONEY AND WHAT WE WILL DO WITH THE CAPITAL FUN. I WOULD HOPE, AS PART OF THE NEGOTIATION THOSE ISSUES WOULD

BE ADDRESSED. >> VICE MAYOR KREGER. >> I AGREE WITH THE FUNDING ISSUE. MY CONCERN IS THAT EVERY TIME WE TRANSFER MONEY, WE ARE TAKING THAT MONEY FROM OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS IN THE CITY.

THERE IS MORE MONEY IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FOR THE GOLF COURSE THEN THE OTHER BUILDINGS.

THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY OPTIONS THERE IS MONEY COMING OUT OF THE MARINA THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. AND I CONCUR WITH, WHAT IS THIS GOLF COURSE.

IT'S A CITY GOLF COURSE AND PEOPLE GO THERE. IT HAS BENEFITS TO THE CITY AND PEOPLE. DO WE NEED 27 HOLES? COULD NOT THAT BE AN 18 HOLE

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BUT I ALSO THINK AS CHIP SAID, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FINANCIALS.

I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE WATERFRONT. WE HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND FOR THE WATERFRONT WE DON'T HAVE MONEY. SO, MONEY IS THE REAL ISSUE.

WE WILL NEED MONEY TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. HOW CAN WE DO THAT.

THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION IS, THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS HAS BEEN PLAYING MOVING ONE ACCOUNT TO THE OTHER WITH THE MONEY. A PRIME EXAMPLE IS WHEN THE GOLF COURSE WAS PROFITABLE, THEY TOOK $1.7 MILLION OUT OF THE FUND, TRANSFERRED IT TO THE GENERAL FUND.

THAT MONEY WAS NEVER PAID BACK. THAT WAS IN THE EARLY 2,000 UNTIL 2010-2011.

THE REALITY IS 1.7 MILLION AND THERE IS A $2 MILLION DEBT, THAT MEANS IN ACTUALITY, THE GOLF COURSE IS UPSIDE DOWN 300 GRAND, NOT 2 MILLION. SO LET'S RECOGNIZE THE SHELVING THAT IS BEEN PLACED IN THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS. THAT IS ONE SOLUTION.

SO THEY OWE 300 GRAND. NOT 2 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT IS THE FIRST REALITY.

THE CAPITAL IS A HUGE PROBLEM. AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, I SHARED WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THE ANALYSIS BY GOLF MANAGEMENT EXPERTS ON THE FOUR CHOICES THAT ARE BEFORE US GIVEN THE GOLF COURSE. THIS IS WHERE YOU HIRE A GOLF PROFESSIONAL, GENERAL MANAGER, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, TO RUN THE GOLF COURSE THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT IS NOW YOU WILL INCUR NOT ONLY SALARIES, BUT BENEFITS AND PENSIONS. THE THIRD OPTION IS OUTSIDE MANAGEMENT WHICH WE HAVE NOW. THAT IS WITH INDIGO. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE ARE EXPERIENCING, WE HAD INDIGO FOR WITH NO YEARLY PERFORMANCE. JUST LIKE WHEN WE PUT THE THE MERINO FOR MANAGEMENT THE SAME SHOULD BE DONE FOR THE GOLF COURSE.

WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO SEE WHETHER THERE ARE COMPANIES. WE SHOULD PUT THAT OUT TO BID TO GET OUR BEST OFFER. THE FINAL ONE IS A LEASE. THEY HAVE A LEASE.

WE RECEIVED PROPOSALS AND WE GET A FLAT FEE THAT'S ALL IT IS. ONCE YOU HAVE THOSE THREE

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YOU HAVE TO GATHER THE DATA AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT FOR A VERY LONG TIME. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, THAT WE RECOMMENDED BUT WE START THE PROCESS SO WE CAN MAKE AN INTELLIGENT DECISION. THE GOLF COURSE IS A BUSINESS I SAY IS THIS OF BUSINESS? THE CITY HAS A CEMETERY THAT IS A BUSINESS BUT THE CITY SUBSIDIZES IT AND PUT MONEY ASIDE FOR IT. SO WE ARE IN THE CEMETERY BUSINESS BUT IS PART OF THE CITY. WE HAVE A GOLF COURSE SINCE 1956. IT IS PART OF THE CULTURE OF THE CITY.

THE REAL ISSUE IS, HOW IT OPERATES, BEFORE YOU DECIDE, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DECISION BUT MORE IMPORTANT, HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU WANT TO PUT INTO THE GOLF COURSE.

THAT IS A POLITY -- MY POLICY DECISION. THERE WILL BE SOME PEOPLE WHO THINK YOU SHOULD DO IT AT ALL COSTS. SOME THINGS WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE ONE. THERE IS A HAPPY MEDIUM. PART OF THAT, THE OPERATOR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW YOU WILL PAY IT OFF. I WANT TO HAVE THAT DECISION MADE BEFORE BUDGET TIME. THAT WILL IMPACT HOW DO YOU DO THE BUDGET.

THE SAME DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE WITH THE MARINA BUT FEMA NEEDS TO SPEAK BEFORE THAT.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO DECIDE HOW YOU WILL OPERATE. PART OF THE PROBLEM OF LEASING IS THE TAXES. THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE UNPROFITABLE BECAUSE, WE HAVE TO PAY MORE IN TAXPAYER THE OPERATOR IS IMPORTANT BUT THE FUNDAMENTAL DECISION, IS DO YOU WANT A GOLF COURSE. THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH WE CAN AFFORD.

WE WILL NOT SETTLE THAT TONIGHT. >> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH? >> IS RIGHT.

WE WILL NOT SETTLE THIS TONIGHT. MY POSITION IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE TOOK $1.7 MILLION OUT OF THE GOLF COURSE FUND, I DON'T THINK THAT VANISHES INTO THIN AIR. HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE.

THAT IS NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, LIKE MANY OF OUR FACILITIES, THE CITY SUPPORTS THE GOLF COURSE OPERATION. CITY RESIDENTS GET NO BREAK. YOU PAID THE SAME RATE AS THE COUNTY SOMEONE LIVING IN SOUTH FLORIDA, SOMEONE VISITING FROM GEORGIA.

THE FEE IS THE SAME. THERE'S NO CITY RESIDENT FEE. IF YOU ARE RESIDENT YOU PAID $70. IF YOU ARE A SERVICE AND DON'T LIVE WITHIN THE CITY YOU PAY $250. SO JUST LIKE OUR OTHER FACILITIES, WHOEVER THE OPERATOR IS, THE CITIZENS OF FERNANDINA BEACH WHO SUPPORT THE GOLF GOALS -- OFF COURSE NEED A BENEFIT, PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY NEEDS TO PAY THE FEE. YOU STATED WHEN THE GOLF COURSE WAS PROFITABLE, ALL OF THE OTHER GOLF COURSES EXISTED. THE RITZ, THE RIVER, AND MORE,

[01:10:06]

>> IS I WANT TO GO BACK TO WORK CHIP SAID. I DON'T PLAY GOLF.

HE BUT I CAN MAKE A CASE THAT IT IS A CITY FUNCTION THAT WE MAKE AVAILABLE THAT THERE ARE BENEFITS TO THE CITY AND WE CAN CHANGE THE RATE STRUCTURES. WE DON'T MAKE MONEY ON THE SWIMMING POOL. I THINK THAT IS A FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE.

IT DOES NOT CHANGE HOW WE APPROACH WE RUN IT. I COULD MAKE A CASE.

THIS IS PART OF THE CULTURE OF THE CITY. MAYBE THEY CAN GET IT FOR

CHEAPER. >> COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN YOUR RECOGNIZE.

>> MR. MAYOR. , MR. MARKET YOU WANTED AN EXTENSION TO THE CONTRACT?

>> I SENT A QUESTION ASKING THAT THERE HAD BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT A SIX MONTH EXTENSION.

THEY WROTE BACK SAYING THEIR PREFERENCE WOULD BE FOR 60 DAYS. THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THAT, IS THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THEIR EMPLOYEES. THEY WANT TO RESOLVE THE SITUATION. THERE ARE OTHER REASONS. BUT ONE KEY REASON, IF YOU GO WITH THE SIX MONTH EXTENSION DO YOUR EMPLOYEES LOOK OUT FOR NUMBER ONE.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. THE BELIEF IS THAT THIS COULD BE RESOLVED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE GOLF COURSE OR THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF IT AND THAT IS AS LONG AS THEY WOULD PREFER TO GO. THE REASON I ASKED IS BECAUSE, MY THINKING IS IF WE GO TO AN OUR HB, IT WILL TAKE LONGER. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO EXTEND IT WITH THEM AND DO AN RFP.

SEE WHAT IS OUT THERE. I THINK, WE HIT WELL. BUT IF WE NEVER WENT OUT, OASIS WOULD NOT BE THERE. I THINK EVERYONE HAS HIGH HOPES. WELL, WHO IS TO SAY THAT SOME COMPANY, WHAT BRINGS THE MONEY BACK TO THE CITY WITHOUT A CONTRACT.

THAT IS MY OPINION. >> >> I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE. WHETHER WE WILL GET THE DISCOUNT, WE KEEP GOING BACK.

YOU FORGOT THE MONEY THEY SPENT FOR THE PARK. ALL OF THAT IS IN THE PAST.

WHEN I AM INTERESTED IN RIGHT NOW IS MONEY. WE HAVE LOST $4 MILLION.

I AM A PROPONENT THAT THIS IS AN IMMUNITY. I THINK IT IS A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY. WHAT I AM FOCUSING ON, IS YOU AND VICE MAYOR KREGER BROUGHT IT UP. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR THIS.

YOU HAVE $2 MILLION ON YOUR BOOKS. YOU CAN WRITE IT OFF, THAT IS A PROBLEM AND IT WILL COME OUT OF THE FUN. THERE IS A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT.

WE NEED TO KNOW THE CONSEQUENCE. GOING FORWARD, THIS HAS BEEN SUCKING UP $400,000 PER YEAR.

THAT WON'T STOP THE RESIDENCE. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON.

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THESE ARE HUGE PROBLEMS. ONE OF THE GOALS THAT I WILL BRING UP IS APPLY IT TO THE CAPITAL BUDGET THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. HOW WE WILL FUND THE CITY.

WE HAVE TOO MUCH STUFF. WE KEEP ADDING MORE STUFF. THAT IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE. WE HAVE BEEN ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL AS WAS BROUGHT UP BY SOMEONE. AND THAT IS MY CONCERN, I THINK IT'S FINE TO WAIT 60 DAYS BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE THREE OF US IS HOW WE WILL DO THIS GOING FORWARD.

I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING, THE CITY MANAGER IS COMING UP WITH A COMMITTEE WHERE WE GO FIND AN EXPERT AND WE SAY HOW DO WE FUND THIS. HOW DO WE FUND THIS GOING INTO THE FUTURE.

I DON'T THINK ANYPLACE WILL MAKE UP THAT. IT STILL DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF

THE $2 MILLION. >> I THINK WE HAVE A REASONABLE DISCUSSION.

THIS ITEM IS NOT HOW WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THE DEBT OF THE GOLF COURSE IT'S HOW WILL WE MANAGE IT. WE HAVE GOTTEN INTO A RUT, I THINK WE NEED TO COME BACK AND SAY LET'S MAKE A DECISION ON MANAGING. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT IS OUR OPINION. NOT FUTURE FINANCES NOT LOANS AND THAT OTHER STUFF.

I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT ISSUE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. >> I THINK WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD TAKE A HARD LOOK. TAKE A LONG LOOK AT THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE SECTION -- SECTION.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH A VENUE AND PARKING AND THEY DON'T HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL GOING EVERY NIGHT. I THINK, WE NEED A BAR. THAT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL.

AND TALKING TONIGHT, NO ONE USES THE GOLF COURSE AT NIGHT, IS JUST SITTING THERE.

AND IN THE SUMMER, YOU HAVE THE WHOLE AFTERNOON. >> WE WILL TAKE THE NEXT 60 DAYS

TO SEE WHAT WE CAN WORK OUT. >> CAN WE EXTEND IT PAST 60 DAYS.

>> YES. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD MADAME CLERK CAN YOU

PLEASE MODERNA HER. >> WAIT ONE SECOND PERIOD ONE MORE SPEAKER.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL CHANGE YOUR VOTE. >> JENNY FISHER.

I LIVE ON THE CITY GOLF COURSE. I SENT YOU A LETTER A FEW WEEKS AGO.

SO, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. Y'ALL HAVE NOT EXPRESSED TO THE CITY MANAGER WHAT THE DELIVERABLE IS. WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS HE COMING BACK WITH.

I THINK THAT IS A MISSING COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT WHETHER YOU'RE BRINGING PEOPLE IN HOUSE OR NOT. THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED IN RESEARCH. I DON'T THINK 60 DAYS IS LONG ENOUGH FOR YOU TO DO THIS.

I THINK WE WOULD BE A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SIX MONTHS RATHER THAN KNOWING I WILL BE THERE FOR 60 DAYS. WE MAY WANT TO HOLD THIS TO JUST 60 DAYS.

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BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THOSE IN 60 DAYS.

ALSO IT IS NOT CLEAR TO ME AND NOT EXPRESS TO YOU, WHO WILL ACTUALLY DO THE ANALYSIS, OR WILL YOU BRING IT BACK IN HOUSE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. I AM JUST CONCERNED, IT CONTINUES TO BE A CONCERN BECAUSE WE GET THESE COMMITMENTS AND WE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WILL GIVE BACK. THE CITY MANAGER NEEDS TO BE MORE EXPLICIT TO YOU ABOUT WHAT HE WILL DO FOR THE NEXT 60 DAYS. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN GET IT DONE IN 60 DAYS.

ONE OF THE POINT. CITY EMPLOYEES, AND NON- RESIDENTS CAN BUY MEMBERSHIPS INTO THE GOLF COURSE. SO, IT IS CHEAPER IF YOU ARE A CITY RESIDENT THE GREATEST CHEAPER AND THE GREEN FEE IS CHEAPER. YOU CAN ALSO BUY A BEACH GUARD.

ANYONE CAN DO IT. THERE ARE WAYS CURRENTLY FOR CITY RESIDENTS TO GET A BETTER

RATE AT THE OF COURSE. SO, THOSE WOULD BE MY COMMENTS. >>

>> IN MY MIND, WHAT I THOUGHT WAS HAPPENING WAS THE CITY MANAGER WOULD NEGOTIATE TO DO THAT. LIKE THE NEGOTIATION WOULD BE FOR ONE YEAR, OR A SIX MONTH CONTRACT AND GIVE US THE ABILITY TO DO THE RFP ON OUTSIDE MANAGEMENT RELEASE.

YOU ARE RIGHT, WE WERE NOT SPECIFIC ON THAT. SO, PERHAPS WE NEED TO HEAR WHAT

THE CITY MANAGER IS NEGOTIATING. >> MY INTENTION WOULD BE TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU A PROPOSED AGREEMENT. IT WOULD BE SIX MONTHS OR SIX YEARS, I AM THE CITY ATTORNEY

AND I WILL BRING YOU AN AGREEMENT ON FEBRUARY 4. >> I'M SPEAKING ONLY FOR MYSELF.

I'M LOOKING AT THE TEN YEAR HISTORY OF THE CONTRACT. THE INCENTIVE CLAUSES WERE LOOKING AT. IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE THEY COULD REACH A LEVEL OF REVENUE WHERE THEY GOT MORE MONEY. AND FROM MY SEAT THAT IS A LACK OF SKIN IN THE GAME.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE INDIGO HAVE MORE SKIN IN THIS GAME. THEY ARE GETTING PAID A MANAGEMENT FEE RATHER THE GOLF COURSES SUCCESSFUL OR NOT. OUR GOAL IS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

IN MY MIND THE GOLF COURSE DOESN'T COST THE TAXPAYERS ANY MONEY.

>> I THINK THE OTHER THING IS AND WE WILL BE FACED WITH THIS, THE THING THAT'S MISSING IS, NOBODY APPEAR AS SAID, I UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND THE FUTURE WE HAVE TO SOLVE SOME PROBLEMS, NONE OF YOU HAVE EXPRESSED TO THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITIZENS OR THE GOAL HERE.

DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT WAYS TO SAVE MONEY AND TURN THE OF COURSE AROUND FINANCIALLY IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SEE EVERY YEAR? DO WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE LOOK OF THE GOLF COURSE.

DO WE WANT PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT, DO WE WANT PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT BECAUSE WE SEE IT LIKE WE SAW OASIS. THEY HAVE RESOURCES NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY.

YOU HAVE NOT STATED ANY OF THAT. THAT LEAVES US WITH A BLANK SLATE.

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WE NEED TO TELL YOU WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM. WHAT I HAVE LOOKED AT, IS A $50,000 SAVINGS EVEN WITH THE HEALTHCARE COST TO BRING IN HOUSE.

TELL US WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME OUT OF THIS.

EVEN -- ULTIMATELY WHAT YOU WANT. I'VE HEARD THE GOLF COURSE DOES

NOT LOOK SO GOOD. THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES. >> I SUPPORT THE SIX DAYS BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE 60 DAYS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID. YOU WILL TALK TO THESE GUYS AND THE OTHER OPTION IS TO GO IN HOUSE. THIS PRECLUDES THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE COULD DO. AND AS BILL SAID, THE RFP. AS FAR AS WHAT WE WANT, I HAVE SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE NINE HOLES. I SAID THIS EVENING, I BELIEVE THERE IS A STRONG CASE THAT IT BECOMES A CITY FUNCTION AND WE WILL SUBSIDIZE LIKE WE DO FOR THE PARK SPIRIT THAT DOES NOT MEAN, IT IS NOT A GREAT GOLF COURSE.

BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT NICE, THE OFFICE WILL TELL ME. IF IT'S NOT A GOOD COURSE THEY WILL GO TO THE RIVER COURSE. IT CAN BE ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I THINK, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NINE HOLES BECOME MORE AND I'M NOT A REAL FAN EVENT HOUSE.

I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE THAT IS MY PERSONAL THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

>> COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH. >> PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO LESSEN THE BURDEN ON THE CITY TAXPAYERS. ENTERPRISE FUNDS, BY THEIR DEFINITION ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WHOEVER MANAGES THE FACILITY TO GET IT, ARE CLOSE TO SELF-SUFFICIENT AND NOT A BURDEN ON TAXPAYERS AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE.

THAT WOULD BE MY NUMBER ONE GOAL. NUMBER TWO, I AM A GOLFER.

I PLAY 120 ROUNDS PER YEAR. GRASSES EVERYTHING. IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD GRASS, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO THE GOLF COURSE. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE PAYING YOUR MONEY FOR. YOU CANNOT PAINT THE CLUBHOUSE OR BAR, BUT IT IS NICE TO HAVE ONE, YOU ARE PAYING FOR THE GRASS PARAGRAPHS ON THE TV, GOOD GREEN SPIRIT THAT IS WHAT DRIVES GOLFERS TO YOUR GOLF COURSE. THEY SHARED THEIR ASSESSMENT WHICH I READ TODAY.

ONE PROBLEM IS THERE ARE SIX GOLF COURSES. I DON'T PLAY THE CITY GOLF COURSES. WHY, THERE ARE BETTER GRASS AT A MILLION RIVER.

A FRIEND GETS ME ON THE GOLF COURSE AND THERE'S BETTER GRASS. IF I WILL SPEND $50 PLUS TO SAVE GOLF, AND FIVE HOURS OF MY TIME I WANT GOOD GRASS. BUT THIS IS A MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE AND WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF OUR POPULACE, THAT THE GOLFERS THIS IS AN AMENITY.

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MID-LEVEL GOLF COURSE. I'VE NEVER PLAYED A GAME OF GOLF IN MY LIFE. I SPENT THE LAST THREE DAYS ME READING ABOUT GOLF.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ANYONE PLAYS GOLF BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.

THAT BEING SAID, WE WILL NEVER BE ON TOP OF THE PILE AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PILE. WE SHOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.

I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE A MID-LEVEL GOLF COURSE THAT'S AN AMENITY FOR THE CITY, THAT DECREASES THE $400,000 THAT WE HAVE SPENT SINCE 2012 THROUGH THE CITY COMMISSIONS.

THIS MINIMIZES THE TO A DOABLE LEVEL THAT YOU WILL PUT IN THE BUDGET.

I TAKE AN ISSUE WITH THE ENTERPRISE FUND. IT IS A COUNTY REQUIREMENT.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROFIT. BUT WITH I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GET RID OF THE ENTERPRISE AND MAKE IT SO IT IS PART OF THE CITY BUDGET.

EVERY YEAR YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WILL SUBSIDIZE. YOU WILL SUBSIDIZE IT EVERY YEAR BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON. SO, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE.

>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IN THE TALKS WITH INDIGO THERE'S PERSPECTIVE.

WHAT IF WE DROP NINE HOLES. WHAT WILL THEY DO FOR THE INCOME AND EXPENSES.

I WOULD LIKE TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AS A POSSIBILITY. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING. THEY ARE THE GOLF PROFESSIONALS. THEY SHOULD GIVE US A GOOD

ANSWER. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. >> UNLESS YOU WANT TO SAY

SOMETHING. >> WE HAVE ALREADY CAUGHT THE QUESTION.

WE HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN THREE VOTES. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING THAT WILL CHANGE. YOU'LL NEED TO TO CALL THE MODICON?

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS? >> LET'S CALL THE ROLE. >> LET'S TAKE A BREAK.

I DON'T KNOW A MUCH MORE YOU WANT TO TALK OR DO YOU WANT TO POWER THROUGH A TAKE A BREAK?

[8.2 BUDGET AMENDMENT -­ DOWNTOWN]

>> I'M GOOD. >> I'M GOOD. POTENTIAL IS POWER THROUGH.

ITEM A POINT TO BUDGET AMENDMENT DOWNTOWN. CITY ATTORNEY?

>> THIS IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO SHIP MONEY TO PAY FOR THE CHRISTMAS TREE WHICH IS UP.

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY PURCHASED WITH OTHER MONEY AND WE WILL BE PUBLISHING THAT MINE ITEM.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> I SECOND PERIOD. >> I HAVE A SECOND PERIOD SO IF

YOU COULD PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE OAKTREE?

>> TRASH. >> IS NO GOOD? >> IT'S ALREADY GONE.

[8.3 SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL -­ PRECISION SIDEWALK SAFETY]

>> OKAY ITEM A .3 SOLE-SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL. PRECISION SIDEWALK SAFETY.

>> MINOR IN THE WRONG ORDER, SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> THERE ARE TRADITIONAL REMOVAL COMPANIES THAT CAN DO THIS. SO RACINE IF THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROJECT.

>> THESE PEOPLE DO A GREAT JOB. THEY REALLY DO A GREAT JOB. AND I MOVED TO APPROVE.

THE SIDEWALKS ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, THEY DO A GREAT JOB. >> I THINK WE SKIPPED TWO OF

THEM. >> THERE ARE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF EACH ONE.

THEY ARE ON THERE BUT IN A DIFFERENT ORDER. >> OKAY.

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>> WE WILL GET TO THEM ON. >> OKAY. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND

PERIOD. >> MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> ITEM A POINT FOR. SOLE-SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL. PECK CENTER WINDOW INSTALLATION

[8.4 SOLE SOURCE VENDOR APPROVAL -­ PECK CENTER WINDOW INSTALLATION – FLORIDA RESTORATION AND CONSTRUCTION, LLC ­]

FLORIDA RESTORATION AND CONSTRUCTION. >> THIS IS THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT. IT IS $24,000. I THINK THIS IS THE LAST PHASE

OF THE PROGRAM. >> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> THIS COMPANY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. THEY HAVE BEEN ON TIME. THEY HAVE SHOWN UP AND DONE THEIR JOB. THEY DO GREAT WORK. I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> MADAME CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> ITEM A .5 GOLF COURSE

[8.5 GOLF COURSE FACILITY TOPTRACER PROJECT ­- BUDGET INCREASE ­]

FACILITY TOP TRACER PROJECT. BUDGET INCREASE. >> THIS IS DUE TO TWO PRIMARY FACTORS THE INCREASE OF THE GOALS COURSE FOR THE DRIVING RANGE AS WELL AS THE INCREASED COST OF LUMBER DUE TO THE EFFECT OF COVID. THE CITY IS REQUESTING AN

INCREASE. >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> WOULD YOU DISCUSS, THIS IS A

CHANGE AND AN INCREASE BUT NOT TO EXCEED. >> TECHNICALLY, THIS DID NOT NEED TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU. BUT AS I SAID, WE WOULD STAY AT THE 405,000-DOLLAR MARK.

WE ARE GOING OVER THAT BECAUSE OF THE COST OF THE DRAINAGE AND THE LUMBER COST.

BUT WE ALSO SIGNED A CONTRACT FOR $277,000. WE ARE NOT EXCEEDING THAT COST.

FOR THAT REASON IT DID NOT REALLY NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU BUT I HAVE TO DO IT FOR TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE MY PLEDGE TO COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH WE WOULD NOT EXCEED THE BUDGET BUT BECAUSE OF ACCENTUATING CIRCUMSTANCES WE HAVE. BUT WE ARE NOT EXCEEDING THE

COST THAT YOU APPROVED FOR THE FACILITY ITSELF. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> IT WAS A DISCUSSION. >> MADAME CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[8.6 CHANGE ORDER APPROVAL -­ MARINA UTILITIES INC.]

>> ITEM A .6. THIS IS CHANGE ORDER APPROVAL. >> THIS IS CHANGE ORDER FOR MARINA UTILITIES TO DO WORK THAT IS UNDERWAY FOR APPROXIMATELY $11,000 FOR BUILDERS RISK AND

INSURANCE. >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND PERIOD. >> CALLED THE VOTE.

>> ONTO SECTION NINE. THIS IS A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT.

[9.1 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT -­ MINOR CHANGES AND DISCREPANCIES]

>> THE TITLE IS UP AND EVERYTHING. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION AMENDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO UPDATE THE AIRPORT ARCHITECTURE AND BUILDING STANDARDS DOCUMENT ADDING DEFINITION OF RACETRACK IN SECTION 7.0 PROHIBITED IN SECTIONS 2.03.03 MODIFYING STANDARDS -- REC. MIGHT BE AN ERA I WILL FIX IT -- FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT DESIGN BY STRIKING DESIGN BASIS IN SECTION 7.03.03 AND ADDING REFERENCE TO SECTION 3.05.03 AND AMENDING SECTIONS 3.05.02 AND 3.05.03 TO INCLUDE STORMWATER DESIGN REQUIREMENTS, MODIFIED SECTION A POINT 01.012 INCLUDE REVIEW HDC REVIEW OF PROPOSED REUSE OF STRUCTURES AND TO ADD SUBSECTION 8.01.01, REVIEW OF EXTERIOR MOUNTED MODERN DEVICES, TO ADD

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PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> I APPROVE. >> I HAVE A MOTION.

>> SECOND PERIOD. >> SEVERAL CONSTITUENTS HAVE MENTIONED TO ME, AND THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE CHANGING OF THE WORDING, AND I WILL RELY OF SAYING SHALL AND MUST IS WEAKER LANGUAGE THAT IS MORE ASPIRATIONAL THAN SHELL. CAN YOU PLEASE, SAVE THE

DEFINITION AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO WORDS. >> IT IS THE OPPOSITE.

MOST FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT IS MANDATORY. WHERE SHALL IS MORE ASPIRATIONAL AND BY DEFINITION AND USE DROUGHT THE CENTURIES IT IS NOT MANDATORY.

IT HAS BEEN PROVEN, AND MITIGATED SO WE ARE MOVING FROM CHILD TO MUST.

YOU WILL ALSO FIND WILL AND MAY. BUT YOU WON'T SEE SHALL AND THAT IS THE REASON.

>> THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT ON THE RECORD. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> MADAME CLERK, CAN YOU CALL THE VOTE. >> ITEM TEN BOARD APPOINTMENTS.

[10.1 GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD]

GOLF COURSE ADVISORY BOARD. >> MOVED TO APPROVE BOTH OF THEM TO THE GOLF ADVISORY BOARD.

>> SECOND. >> OF EMOTION AND THE SECOND PERIOD MADAME CLERK PLEASE CALL

THE VOTE. >> ITEM TEN-POINT TO COME UP BOARD APPOINTMENT FOR HISTORIC

[10.2 BOARD APPOINTMENT -­ HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL]

DISTRICT COUNCIL. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICANT DUNCAN TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT

COUNCIL. >> I REQUEST THAT THESE BOATS BE SEPARATED.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD. >> IF ONE WANTS TO AMEND TO INCLUDE ONE OF THE CANDIDATES, OR THEY CAN SAY I WANT TO STAND AND NOT CALL THE VOTE.

>> I WILL RESTATE MY MOTION TO APPROVE TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COUNCIL.

>> I WILL DO THAT TOO. >> CALLED THE VOTE. >> ITEM 10.1, THIS IS A GOLF

COURSE ADVISORY BOARD. >> I WILL MOVE THAT THE APPLICANT BE APPOINTED TO THE

HISTORIC DISTRICT. >> I'M SORRY HDC. >> AND FOR THE LAST ITEM.

WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> ITEM 11, CITY MANAGER REPORTS.

[11. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

>> WE HAVE A COLLECTION AND THE DRIVE IS THIS SATURDAY FROM 8:0. IT WAS CANCELED THIS YEAR DUE TO COVID. I WILL ATTACH THE FIRE. IT IS ONLINE BUT I WILL ATTACH IT. THIS WILL BE TUESDAY DECEMBER 8. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. I ENJOYED YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON MANY ISSUES.

I WILL MISS OUR FRIDAY MORNING COFFEE AND DOUGHNUTS. >> AND ALSO THANK YOU TO MAYOR

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MILLER. >> I STILL REMEMBER, THE NIGHT, FIVE YEARS AGO, WHEN WE HAD THIS

OPPORTUNITY, THANK YOU. >> I CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE I AM STILL RECOVERING FROM A COLD.

[12. CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS ]

I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 13 YEARS. YOU SERVED AS MAYOR FOR MANY YEARS.

YOU ARE THE LONGEST THAT I'VE SERVED UNDER AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I HAVE LEARNED A LOT. PHILIP, I WILL NEVER FORGET AND ADVOCATE FOR YOU THAT I WILL WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. YOU CAME TO THIS PODIUM AND I WILL NEVER FORGET THE LITTLE THE SPIRIT I HAVE ALL OF THOSE DOCS OR HAD. THE DUCKS -- THE DOGS CHEWED SOME, BUT I HAVE ONE SPECIAL DUCT LEFT FOR YOU AND WHEN I GIVE IT TO YOU YOU WILL SEE WHY.

YOU WON'T KNOW THE SYMBOLISM BUT I WILL GIVE THAT TO YOU. YOU'RE ALSO MY FRIEND.

AND I WILL SEE YOU AND MARLENE AROUND TOO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE LEARNED. I HAVE ASKED FOR ADVICE ON EVERYTHING.

I APPRECIATE YOUR GOOD ADVICE. I WILL CONTINUE TO APPRECIATE IT.

DON'T GO ANYWHERE. YOU ARE STAYING IN TOWN. THE NEW PATIO THAT YOU BUILD I HOPE I GET TO SEE IT SOON. THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH. FOR ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS I WANT TO THANK YOU. YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT MASKS. I SUPPORT THEM AND THANK YOU FOR EXTENDING THE MASK ORDER, OUR PEOPLE ARE DOING IT. THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THAT FOR US. AND CONTINUE TO STAY SAFE THIS MORNING WITH COMMISSIONER ROTH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MASKS AND THE STAFF HERE IN THE CITY THAT HAVE TESTED POSITIVE.

IT HAS TOUCHE US CLOSELY. WE CANNOT LOSE, WE ARE GETTING TOWARDS THE END OF THIS WITH THE VACCINE COMING OUT. STAY STRONG AND WE WILL GET THROUGH IT.

WE CANNOT LET OUR GUARD DOWN. STAY AWAY FROM EACH OTHER. DO NOT HUG AND KISS.

DO NOT TAKE YOUR MASKS OFF. JUST BE SAFE. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ROSS. >> DID YOU FORGET THE CITY CLERK.

[13. CITY CLERK REPORTS]

>> THE RUNOFF ELECTION BOARD MEETING IS TOMORROW AT 1:00 P.M. AT THE ELECTIONS OFFICE AND I WILL SEE YOU THERE TOMORROW. THE AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS ONE APPOINTMENT AVAILABLE AND SO DOES THE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND APPEALS BOARD. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND HIS GUIDANCE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.

IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH YOU. I REMEMBER MEETING YOU HERE IN CHAMBERS FOR THE FIRST TIME FIVE YEARS AGO. YOU WERE PASSIONATE AND DRIVEN AND DID A LOT TO HELP US NAVIGATE ITSELF THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR MILLER IS ONE OF THE FEW THAT APPOINTED ME TOO THIS POSITION.

THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART FOR LETTING ME SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY.

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LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU OR YOUR LOVELY WIFE NEEDS. THANK YOU.

[14. MAYOR/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ]

>> FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS WHAT HAVE WE ACCOMPLISHED. EVERY MONTH I DO THIS.

WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. WE DREDGE THE MARINA.

WE REPOSITION THE MARINA THAT FOR YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN ARGUING ABOUT.

WE REPAIR THE NORTH.THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. WE HIRED A NEW VEREEN OPERATOR.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT. WE APPROVED A CONSENSUS PLAN FOR BEACH PARKING.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THAT BUT IT WAS BIG AT THE TIME. AND IT HAS WORKED OUT NICELY.

WE CAME UP AND DID TRASH RECEPTACLES. I USED TO GET CALLS ABOUT THE TRASH CANS OVERFLOWING. NOW WE HAVE UP PICKUP AND IT WORKS.

WE HAD THE BEACH CLEANING WHICH WAS A BIG DEAL. THEY DO A NICE JOB.

WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT. WE REMOVED A VARIANCE FOR FILLING THE WETLANDS.

WE RESOLVE THE NEW RACK SPIRIT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THAT. THAT ISSUE HAD BEEN GOING ON FOR 20 YEARS. THE OWNER SAID YOU WILL NEVER FIX THAT AND WE DID.

I THINK THAT WAS GOOD. 35 FEET IS NOW 35 FEET ON THE BEACH FOR HEIGHT.

WE PASSED THE DWELLING UNIT. THE BOARD EXTENSION PHASE WON ON FOR YEARS AND IT HAS BEEN FILLED. THE SIDEWALK WAS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE HAD BEEN MEANDERING ON.

WE GOT THAT BILL. WE APPOINTED AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

WE RAISED OVER ONE HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR CONSERVATION LAND. WE CHANGE THE LAND USE MAP.

WE PASSED A FLOOD ORDINANCE WHICH IS A BIG DEAL. WE PASSED A HUMAN RELATIONS ORDINANCE THAT IS BIG. THE CITY NEVER HAD A RIGHT-OF-WAY ROAD.

WE BOUGHT CONSERVATION LAND. WE CHANGE THE CITY CHARTER TO MAKE IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO SELL CONSERVATION LAND. WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE EVEN WITH ITS FLAWS.

FINALLY, WE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE LOCAL CHARITIES DURING THE CRISIS.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I WANT TO THANK YOU MR. CHAPMAN FOR BEING VERY VOCAL ADVOCATE FOR THE DISABLED. JOHNNY, YOU RUN A GREAT MEETING.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I STILL REMEMBER, AT A TOURNAMENT WHERE YOU GOT UP AS AN AMBASSADOR AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS. I HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU.

THANK YOU. >> WE ARE FIVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH FIVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

WE SHARE ONE COMMON GOAL. WE ALL SIT HERE WITH OUR ASPIRATIONS, DREAMS AND HOPES AND THE FAITH OF EVERYONE AND WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY OF FERNANDINA BEACH.

I AM SO HONORED TO HAVE SAT HERE WITH COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

THE DIFFERENCES MAKE US STRONGER. IF WE AGREED ON EVERYTHING WE WOULD HAVE NO DIFFERENCES. WE ALL SEE THIS CITY AND THE CHALLENGES WE FACE THROUGH OUR OWN LENS. I AM SO HONORED AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

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IT'S GREAT HOW YOU MAKE EVERYONE FEEL AND HOW WELL THE MEETINGS ARE RUN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. I WILL SEE YOU GUYS TOMORROW SO IT'S NOT A FINAL GOODBYE.

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. >> AS CHIP SAID, WE HAVE DONE A LOT MORE.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD STUFF.O PARTICIPATED. IN PAINTING THE WINDOWS.

IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT SPIRIT. ESPECIALLY DURING THESE TIMES. THIS MAY MY LAST OFFICIAL MEETING, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES. ESPECIALLY OVER DEPARTMENT HEADS. MANY TIMES, CITY EMPLOYEES ARE QUESTIONED.

THEY ARE UPSTANDING PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE WHO DO THEIR JOB WELL SOMETIMES WITH CRITICISM UNJUSTIFIED. IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO KNOW THEM AND WORK WITH THEM.

I HAVE TO GIVE SPECIAL THANKS. THE CITY GAVE ME AN IPAD WHEN I HAD AN ISSUE.

I AM A TECH MORON AND I AM PROUD OF THAT. EVERY NOW AND THEN APPLE WOULD UPDATE THIS THING I WOULD WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND COULD NOT FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE IT.

SO I WOULD HAVE TO BOTHER IT, WHO WOULD NICELY SIT AND WALK ME THROUGH IT SO I COULD KEEP GOING. TAMMY -- TAMMI BACH I REALLY APPRECIATE OUR MEETING SPIRIT I HAVE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT HOW THE CITY RUNS. I APPRECIATE YOUR LEGAL OPINIONS, YOUR PERSONAL OPINIONS,. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SUCH A HELP AND I APPRECIATE THAT. WHEN WE DID THE REVIEWS, ONE OF MY BIGGEST COMPLIMENTS, HE HAD THE COURAGE TO DO THIS. AND HAVING TO TAKE MY SHOT WITH THE VEREEN INOVA CAN HAPPEN WHEN YOU STEP OUT THERE. DALE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE THE CHANCES.

MY OLDEST DAUGHTER HAD A GREAT PHILOSOPHY. SHE WOULD KEEP ASKING AND SHE SAID THE WORST YOU CAN DO IS SAY NO. PLEASE GIVE PUTTING THINGS OUT THERE BECAUSE THE WORSE THE COMMISSION CAN DO IS SAY NO. I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COFFEE.

I LEARNED SO MUCH. SINCE MY FIRST MEETING. I SAT UP THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

1,040 PAGES OF BACKUP MATERIAL WAS HANDED TO THE COMMISSIONERS TO THE MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO.

PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE NO IDEA THEY THINK WE ONLY SIT HERE BUT IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

I HAVE TO ALSO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS, TO MY WIFE. SHE HAS FIRST OF ALL, WHEN I

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THEN WE HAD TO NEGOTIATE. BUT I THANK HER FOR HER SUPPORT I THANK HER FOR THE ABUSE SHE ENDURED WHILE I SAT HERE. WE HAD MANY DEBATES. MORE THAN ANY I HAVE SET UP HERE FOR OVER ISSUES BECAUSE OUR OPINIONS WERE DIFFERENT BUT SHE ALWAYS SUPPORTED ME.

AND I SAY THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE.

AND I GUESS I CAN CROSS IT OFF OF MY BUCKET LIST. AND YOU DO RUN A GREAT MEETING.

WHEN I WAS UP NORTH, I VERY OFTEN WENT TO MEETING SPIRIT SO FOR BOTH OF US AS WE HEAD INTO

THE SUNSET, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> WELL, I AM AT A LOSS FOR WORDS. SO I PLAN ON SAYING GOODBYE NEXT WEEK WHEN I TRANSFER OVER TO THE CITY STAFF. BUT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, YOU TALK ABOUT THE MEETINGS RUNNING WELL YOU MADE IT EASY. I MISS THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE I COULD CALL YOU AND GET YOUR INPUT AND ADVICE FOR WE CAN'T DO THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT HERE.

AS FAR AS THE STAFF GOES, I WILL TALK TO ALL OF YOU NEXT WEEK BUT YOUR WORDS TONIGHT, I WILL NEVER FORGET. AND WITH THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.