Nov 23, 2020 Marina Advisory Board

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HI PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE

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WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

>> JOE, HOLD ON. >> THIS IS UNDERNEATH YOUR KNEE ROSE.

>> LET'S MAKE SURE THE MICROPHONES ARE ON. >> LET'S MAKE SURE.

>> LET'S DO THE ROLL CALL. >> MEMBER BLANCHARD. >> HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO

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>> I DID FIND THERE WERE TWO TYPOS ONE WAS SHERWIN-WILLIAMS AND ONE WAS DOCKET NUMBER ONE

THAT WAS CORRECTED. >> I RECOMMEND THIS. ARE WE ONLY FAVOR SAY AYE.

THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING WE WILL BEGIN WITH

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>> THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING IN OCTOBER, THE SECOND ONE IN OCTOBER OR THE FIRST ONE.

THE SECOND ONE IN OCTOBER, THEY DID A PRESENTATION DO YOU WANT TO RING US UP TO DATE ON THAT?

>> YES. >> MIKE LEDNOVICH I LIVE ON CANOPY DRIVE.

SO, AT OUR MOST RECENT MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT THE WATERFRONT PROJECT.

AS I TOLD YOU, MARQUISE GAVE US THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PORTAL. AND AT OUR LAST MEETING WE BUILT ON THAT. I'M SORRY I HAD MY BACK TO YOU. AND SO, THE DISCUSSION CENTERED AROUND, ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT, THEY ARE GOING BACK FOR A REDESIGN.

THAT IS BASED ON THE INPUT AND THE FEEDBACK THEY WERE GIVEN. MY CONCERN, THAT I RAISED IS THEY HAVE A BUDGET. IN OTHER WORDS THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN NO PARAMETERS FOR

DESIGNING THIS, THESE ELEMENTS, WITHOUT ANY BUDGET CONSTRAINTS. >> YOU MEAN THE DESIGNERS

COLLECTS. >> THAT IS CORRECT SIR. >> IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS $7.1 MILLION. AS I SAID AT THE MEETING WHEN THEY SAID $7.1 MILLION I ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR. WE DON'T HAVE SEVEN-POINT $1 MILLION.

SO, MY QUESTION TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WAS, WHAT IS OUR COMMITMENT AS THE COMMISSION.

IS IT $4 MILLION? IS A 3 MILLION OR 2 MILLION, SHOULD THE DESIGNERS KNOW THAT? BECAUSE WE ARE ALL KNOW THAT IF YOU GIVE DESIGNERS AND OPEN-ENDED CHECK THEY WILL

DESIGN AWAY. SO, -- I'M SORRY. >> EXACTLY.

SO, THAT IS ONE CONSIDERATION. SO, WHAT WILL THIS COST AND WHERE WILL WE GET THE MONEY, WEEPING THE CITY. NUMBER TWO, ARE THE COMPETING THEMES FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, WHEN I SAY COMPETING THEMES, YOU HAVE THE WORKING ARENA THEME.

AND THERE IS A CONTINGENT OF PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THE WORKING ARENA THEME.

THEN YOU HAVE THE PARK ENTERTAINMENT AND BY THAT, I MEAN, THE INSTRUMENTS.

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THEN, FINALLY YOU HAVE THE TOP CONTINGENT. YOU HAVE THESE THREE COMPETING CONTINGENTS AND TO ME, AND HOW DO YOU MARRY THE THREE OF THEM SO YOU GET TO A WIN-WIN SITUATION. WHOSE DECISION IS BACK COLLECTS ULTIMATELY, IT IS THE COMMISSION SPIRIT BUT HOW DO WE GET THERE? THAT IS THE OTHER PROCESS QUESTION I WOULD SAY.

SO, THE COMMISSIONERS WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK. I KNOW COMMISSIONER ROSS, WROTE HIS SPIRIT I WROTE MINE, AND COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN WROTE HIS SPIRIT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THOSE YOU CAN REQUEST THE PUBLIC RECORD. SO I WOULD URGE YOU TO DO THAT

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THAT. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE BOARD, AFTER TONIGHT THAT WE RECOMMEND KEVIN GIVE WHAT THE ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDS FOR THAT?

>> ABSOLUTELY. SO, OVER THE PAST WEEKEND, PAUL HAD POSTED HIS IDEA ABOUT THE KAYAK BOAT STORAGE RACK. HE ASKED FOR FEEDBACK AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

BUT AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO THE WORKING MARINA. I HAD THAT WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND I TALKED ABOUT YOUR IDEA. HE SAID WHAT ABOUT OBSTRUCTING THE VIEW.

WELL, OKAY IT IS EITHER A WORKING MARINA AND REVENUE GENERATION COMES FIRST, THE VIEW IS SECONDARY. WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT HUGE OF A KAYAK BOAT STORAGE RACK.

IT IS MOVABLE. IT'S EASILY MOVABLE IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE NORTH END.

IF WE GET THE PROPERTY WE CAN PUT IT THEY ARE PURE. HE ALSO MENTIONED THE IDEA OF, IMPROVING THE BOAT RAMP, MAKING IT BIGGER AND ASSESSABLE TO INCREASE BOAT TRAFFIC.

SO, THAT IS WHAT, I MEAN, WHEN I SAY COMPETING CONCEPTS. IF WE WANT A WORKING MARINA THAT DRAWS REVENUE, TO ME THAT IS A PRIORITY GIVEN THE FINANCIAL STRAITS WE FIND THE VEREEN AUNT.

YES, SIR. >> WE HAVE THREE COMPETING GROUPS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE WORK TOGETHER BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS CAN WE AFFORD TO MAKE ALL OF THEM HAPPY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND CAN WE KEEP DESIGNING AND DESIGNING AND EVENTUALLY GET A PROJECT AND WE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN PLANNING IT FOR THE LAST YEARS.

>> YOU ARE CORRECT. SO, ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSION.

ONE NEW COMMISSIONER. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HIS OPINIONS OR MARINA CONCEPTS HE FAVOR.

THEN WE WILL EITHER HAVE TWO MORE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR IDEAS ARE.

SO THIS WHOLE THING CAN BE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND ON DECEMBEW COMMISSION IS SEATED, WE CAN HAVE FURTHER IDEAS. SO THIS WHOLE THING IS VERY MUCH IN FLUX.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HAPPENING QUICKLY. AND ONCE AGAIN THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN, BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT RESILIENCY IS NUMBER ONE. THAT LAND HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR 50 YEARS. IT WILL STAY THAT WAY, NO HARM NO FOUL.

BUT THE RESILIENCY HAS BECOME PROBLEMATIC AND HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.

IT IS A HIGH DOLLAR PRODUCT AS I HAVE SAID IN THE PAST. SO, WHERE ARE WEAKENING THE

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THAT IS WHERE WE ARE WITH THE WATERFRONT PROPERTY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO, WHAT THEY DESIGNED IS NOT IN PLACE FOR PARKING LOTS CMD? >> NO, SIR.

>> SO IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO MOVE THIS FROM THE SOUTHWEST CORNER TO THE NORTH THEN SO YOU CAN SEE THE BACKGROUND OF THE CITY AND SAID OF THIS SPIRIT AND ALSO BRINGING UP MORE AREA WHEN

THEY HAVE A COMPETITION RIGHT HERE. >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS

AREA? >> THE NORTH THEN. >> PARKING LOT CMD WILL BE THE MAIN FOCUS RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING YOU'RE LOOKING RIGHT HERE. IF YOU MOVE IT NORTH, THEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE CITY WHICH IS PAYING FOR EVERYTHING. RIGHT HERE IS AND THE BACKGROUND. THEY CAN LOOK AT THE SUNSET. THAT ALSO FREEZES UP MORE ROOM SOUTH FOR THE COURSES. THAT IS A WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR EVERYONE.

THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A SEAFOOD MARKET RESTAURANT RIGHT HERE.

THE NEXT QUESTION IS, THE RUMOR IS THAT THIS WILL BE BROUGHT DOWN TO PARKING LOT C.

WHERE WILL THEY PUT THAT? WILL THEY MOVE ITSELF TO WHERE IT IS NOW BUT IF YOU DO THAT YOU WILL FREE UP THE BOAT RAMP WHERE YOU CAN LAUNCH THREE BOATS AT A TIME.

THAT WILL FREE UP A LOT OF AREA BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE PARKING. THAT IS ANOTHER BURDEN YOU DON'T

HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. >> THAT IS CORRECT. WE WANT TO SAVE THAT BUILDING.

IT IS A HISTORICAL BUILDING. I KNOW THE CITY FOLKS HAVE LOOKED AT IT.

I KNOW THEY ARE LOOKING AT HIRING SOMEONE TO MOVE IT. AND TO YOUR POINT, WHERE WILL WE

MOVE IT. >> WE CAN MOVE IT TO THE NORTH THEN, AND THAT WILL LEAVE PLENTY OF ROOM FOR THE WALKWAY, FREEZE UP THE BOAT RAMP, AND YOU HAVE ROOM FOR PARKING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU CAN PUT THE BANDSHELL SOUTH OF THIS AND THAT WILL HELP OUT.

>> WE WANT TO SAVE THE BUILDING. >> BUT THE SIGHT OF WHERE WE ARE MOVING IT TO, OBVIOUSLY IT IS A

WATERFRONT BUILDING SO YOU WON'T PUT IT RIGHT THERE. >> CORRECT.

SO IT IS A MATTER OF WHERE WE WILL PUT IT TOMORROW. >> JUST TO REITERATE, THERE IS

NO GUARANTEE WE WILL BUILD IT. >> BUT IT WAS THE MOST POPULAR ELEMENT ACCORDING TO THE

FEEDBACK. >> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS. >> THEY WERE ON THE NORTH END.

WE ALL THE NORTH AND THEY WERE FACING SOUTH. THEY HAD A COUPLE OF HUNDRED OF PEOPLE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BLOCK CENTER STREET.

>> THAT WHOLE PARK CONCEPT WAS THE MOST POSITIVE THAT THEY HAVE HAD.

>> WE WILL SHOW THAT THEY HAD A LARGE PART. >> MY BIGGEST CONCERN WILL BE

STABILIZING THE WATERFRONT. THAT WILL BE THE BIG STORY. >> WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING,

WATER ACROSS FRONT STREET AND THEN WE WILL MOVE DOWN. >> IT WAS BUILT FROM RIGHT HERE,

YOU WANTED FROM ATLANTIC SEAFOOD AND RAISED UP. >> THAT WOULD MAKE YOU LOOK DOWN

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ON THE MARINA. >> RIGHT NOW THE ELEVATION IN THE PARKING LOT IS 7 FEET.

SO WE ARE JUST ADDING 2 FEET TO THAT ELEVATION. >> THERE CAN BE OPENINGS AND

THOSE CAN BE BLOCKED OFF AND THERE IS A MECHANISM FOR IT. >> THE WORST PLACE FOR FLOODING IS NEAR THE PARK THAT NEEDS FIXING. WE CANNOT FIX PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THAT IS WHY. >> DO YOU WANT TO HEAR JUST THIS LITTLE AREA.

>> JUSTIN SIMMONS PROPERTY. WE OWN THE VENTURA PROPERTY. THIS IS A HOLDING THE DONUT.

>> TWO OR THREE OTHER LITTLE PIECES TO. >> DID THE VENTURA PROPERTY COME OUT OF THE MARINA FUND THE MONEY TO ACQUIRE IT COLLECTS IT IS PART OF THE MARINA DEBT AND AS

WE DISCUSSED. >> THE CITY COMMISSION SAID, PLEASE MOVE THIS TO PARKS AND DIRECT. THEN IT BECOMES CONTROL AND ANY MONEY GOES TO PARKS AND, RIGHT.

>> CORRECT BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND FOR CLARIFICATION, IN ORDER TO IMMINENT THE WAY -- DOMAIN THE PROPERTY WE CANNOT BUILD ON IT. THE ARGUMENT IS FOR RESILIENCY TO HAVE CONTINUOUS LAND WE NEED

THE PROPERTY, SO WE ARE NOT ACQUIRING IT FOR DEVELOPMENT. >> SO THE MARINA COULD MAKE

MONEY. IT COULD BE ON THE WATER. >> I'M SORRY.

>> SO, FIRST OF ALL, THE PROPERTY IS GREAT FOR THE MARINA.

WE CAN'T PUT DOCS OUT THERE NORTH OF THE EXISTING MARINA UNLESS THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT SPHERE THE REALITY OF PUTTING THE WATER WILL BE ANYTHING WITH THIS SPIRIT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LAND FOR STUFF TO BE DONE EAST OR WEST OF THE ROAD BUT FROM OUR POINT LOOKING AT THE VALUE, FROM A DOMAIN STANDPOINT IS TO GET THE RIGHTS TO GET DOCS GOING NORTH.

THE OTHER COMPONENT ABOUT THE STABILIZATION AND ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, WE KNOW THAT THE BULKHEAD IS NOT KEEPING THE PIPING GOING ON UNDERNEATH.

WE HAVE TO DO A PROJECT THERE ANYWAY. I KNOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PIECES. IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WE WON'T HAVE THE WATER ACCESS AND WE NEED ONE OF THE TWO OF THEM. THE OBSERVATION I WOULD MAKE, IS, THE SHORELINE HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE IT IS IN ANY IMMEDIATE DANGER I HAVE SEEN A LOT MORE WATER RISE AROUND THERE. I HAVE SEEN THE GUARD THAT'S RIGHT THE AGGREGATION. HAS ALWAYS BEEN EROSION. THINK ABOUT THE STUFF THEY PUT ON THE SHORELINE. THE CARS COMING OUT. WE HAVE SOME SLOW BUT STEADY

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SO, IT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE BEEN IGNORING. BUT I CAN TELL YOU, THERE'S A

SOLUTION. >> THERE IS. THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE WITH THE DRAINAGE. THOSE PIPES ARE NOT GOING OUT CORRECTLY.

THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE MORE CORROSION IN THAT AREA ON FRONT STREET AND AT ASH.

A LOT OF THE DRAINAGE NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AS WELL. EVERYTHING STRAINS BACK TO THE

RIVER. >> WHAT YOU COME BACK TO IS, THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR RESOLVING THE EXPENSE. YOU DO HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION WHAT KIND OF A TIMELINE WOULD YOU PUT THIS ON WHERE YOU CAN REALISTICALLY EXPECT TO PAY FOR IT COLLECTS.

>> THAT IS A GENERAL FUND QUESTION. >> NOTE, IT IS NOT A FUNDER QUESTION. IT IS A QUESTION OF THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE WOULD LIKE ACCOMPLISHED

AND THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO DO IT. >> WHAT IF WE LOSE THE

WATERFRONT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS? >> AGAIN, THE WATERFRONT HAS BEEN THERE FOR 100 YEARS. I'M NOT DISAGREEING THAT THERE ARE NOT PROBLEMS AND THE RISING SEA AND POTENTIAL FOR HURRICANE OR STORM SURGE IS OUT THERE AND IT'S DANGEROUS.

BUT IT TAKES YOU BACK TO CAN'T YOU AFFORD TO FIX IT. >> WE HAVE DONE STORM DRAINAGE

ALL OVER THE CITY. >> ARE SICK TO THIS ISSUE. I THINK WE WILL INVEST OR HAVE TO INVEST IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT IS A COMMISSION DISCUSSION ITEM.

IT GOES BACK TO THINGS THAT MAY BE IMPORTANT. CAN WE AFFORD TO DO THEM CRACKS.

>> THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT I'M SAYING. ALL I'M TRYING TO SUGGEST IS, IT

IS A LONG PROJECT AND AN EXPENSIVE ONE. >> I WOULD URGE YOU TO HAVE HIM

ADDRESS THE BOARD. I'M NOT A WATERFRONT ENGINEER. >> YOU CAN HAVE MR. GEORGE.

>> I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A FLIP ANSWER. WE CANNOT AFFORD NOT TO DO IT.

NOT ONLY DOES FRONT STREET BLOOD, IN EXTREME CONDITIONS, ALMOST TWO THIRDS STREET ALL OF

THESE BUSINESSES BLOOD. >> YES. >> IT'S LIKE SAN MARCO WHERE YOU

SEE PEOPLE PUTTING THE SANDBAGS IN FRONT OF THEIR DOORS. >> CORRECT.

>> WHEN ISSUED THIS ISSUE WITH THE WATERFRONT, IS IT REALLY JUST THE MARINA'S ISSUE.

YOU HAVE STREETS AND DRAINAGE, YOU ALSO HAVE UTILITY. IT IS NOT THE MARINA THING.

>> I AGREE. THIS IS NOT A REASONABLE DISCUSSION.

THE CITY ROADS AND EVERYTHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. >> WHILE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PROTECTING THE AREA THAT COSTS WITH -- COMES WITH A HYPE PRICE TAG, HOW CAN WE AFFORD TO DO THIS OTHER WE FIND A WAY TO DO THIS? THAT IS THE ONLY QUESTION THAT EXISTS. IN THE END, YOU HAVE TO REACH INTO YOUR WALLET AND LAY OUT SOME MONEY. THAT'S ALL IT IS. AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS

REALLY STARTED TO TACKLE THAT PROBLEM YET. >> IS NOT OUR ROLE TO DO THAT.

THAT'S THE PHYSICS OF IT. THAT IS THE PHYSICS OF FAT TO GO.

WE HAVE BUILDING CODES THAT DO NOT APPEAR TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE SENSE EVERYONE KNOWS THE AREA IS LOW AND FLOODS. SO WHEN YOU FORCE THEM TO BUILD 5 FEET UP, YOU LET THEM BUILD ON

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YOU ALLOW THEM THROUGH YOUR BUILDING CODE TO DO IT. >> EVERYTHING HAS TO BE BILLED TO FEMA STANDARDS WHEN YOU ARE IN AN AREA PRONE TO FLOOD. BUT BUT I DOUBT WHEN THINGS GET BUILT ALONG THIS WATERFRONT ANYONE PAYS ATTENTION TO FEMA COLD.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON STILTS. >> IS NOT AN EASY PROBLEM TO SOLVE BECAUSE OF THE MONEY INVOLVED. I THINK AT SOME POINT, WE WILL HAVE TO SEE ALL OF THIS AREA UNDERWATER ON THE EVENING NEWS AND PEOPLE WILL STAND UP AND SAY, WE CAN'T HAVE THAT WE MUST FIX IT. FIND THE MONEY. TAXES WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO FIND THE MONEY BUT THERE IS NO FORCING FUNCTION OTHER THAN WOULDN'T IT BE NICE.

>> MIGHT BIG CONCERN HAS THROUGH THIS OPEN PLAN, LANDSCAPING AND THAT SORT OF THING REALLY SHOULD NOT TAKE PLACE AND THAT IS WHAT I KEEP HARPING. LET'S FOCUS ON THOSE STABILIZATION. THAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST PRIORITY.

>> WE CAN AFFORD IT. >> WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A PARK COLLECTS.

>> IT HAS TO BE DESTROYED AT SOME POINT BECAUSE THE FLOOD WILL COME THROUGH AND DESTROYED THE GRASS AND EVERYTHING, WE ARE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE IF WE BUILD A PARK BEFORE

STABILIZING UP YOUR. >> RIGHT. >> MY QUESTION IS, ONCE PER SHORELINE STABILIZED AND EVERYTHING ELSE FALLS INTO PLACE --

>> I WILL GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER ROSS'S SANDWICH. THE TWO SLICES OF BREAD, ONE SLICE BEING RESILIENCY, THE OTHER SIDE BEING FRONT STREET. REMEMBER WE ARE ADDING TWO NEW RAILROAD CROSSINGS, AT ONE AREA. WE ARE OPENING ALACHUA. NEW DRAINAGE, I THINK THAT IS A $1.5 MILLION DRAINAGE PROJECT ON ALACHUA. THAT HAS TO BE DONE FIRST.

THAT IS THE MEAT OF THIS SANDWICH. WHEN YOU TAKE THEM IN SEQUENCE,

THAT IS HOW IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. >> IT WOULD BE GOOD IF EVERYONE GOT ON BOARD TO RESILIENCY FORCE BUT NO ONE IS ON BOARD THAT'S RIGHT NOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ON BOARD.

>> I THINK THERE SHOULD BE PRIORITIES. ALSO RECOGNIZE, COMMISSIONER ROSS AND I WERE AT THE LAST PORT AUTHORITY MEETING, DURING THESE TIMES DURING STORM EVENTS, THE

NORTHWEST, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PORT FLOODS. >> NO KIDDING.

>> EVERYONE KNOWS THAT. THERE IS NO PLAN. >> THERE WAS A PLAN ON THE WATERFRONT. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD GO UP TO 9 FEET AND THAT WAS A COMMENT I

BROUGHT UP AT THE MEETING. YOUR BUILDING A SWIMMING POOL. >> YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING UP, YOU HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY NORTH TO THE PAPER PLANT. OBVIOUSLY OUR CONCERN IS, WE DO OUR 1.1-MILE STRETCH. WHERE DOES THE WATER GO FLEX WATER WILL GO AROUND IT.

I BELIEVE THEY ARE ENGINEERING IT SO IT DOES NOT COME DOWNTOWN. >> THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. MY BACKGROUND IS IN THIS AND IT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET FIGURE TH.

>> WE JUST HAD AN ISSUE A FEW MONTHS AGO. YOU COULDN'T PASS IT YOU

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COULDN'T TURN THE OTHER WAY. >> THIS IS ANOTHER CONCERN WITH THE RESILIENCY.

THE WATER WILL GO AROUND IT. WHY WOULD WE BUILD THIS, IF YOU ARE BUILDING A TOWER YOU CAN'T

GO HALFWAY AROUND THE CITY. >> YOU WANT TO GO AROUND IT. >> BUILDING THE PEACE.

SOME HAPPEN EVERY 20 YEARS OR 40 YEARS. >> I THINK WE ARE IN THE ONCE EVERY 100 YEAR CYCLE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE ALACHUA PROJECT WILL ALLEVIATE THE FLOODING. THE WATER THAT COMES IN AROUND THE PROPERTY, THAT WILL HANDLE

THE LOAD. >> WHY DOES THE MARINA NOT HAVE THE BULKHEAD.

THEY BUILT A HUGE, EXPENSIVE MARINA AROUND A POOR BULKHEAD IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

>> FROM ONE COMMISSIONER. WE HAVE TO PUT THE BULKHEADS UP. THE WHOLE PROCEDURE RESILIENCY FIRST WHERE DO WE FIND THE MONEY TO DO IT. FIGURE OUT THESE TWO SLICES OF BREAD. THEN FIGURE OUT THE WATERFRONT PARK.

THEY ARE TRYING TO DO THEM IN I THINK ALL FIVE CURRENT COMMISSIONERS AGREE AND I CAN MY

SPEAK FOR ALL OF THEM. >> WE HAVE HEARD THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THIS WON'T JUST COME FROM THE CITY ITSELF. WE WILL FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN FUNDED OR NOT FUNDED.

THE OTHER PART IS, JUST SO WE CAN GET OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION, I THINK ALAN SUMMARIZED IT. WE MAKE OUR POINT WHERE WE THINK IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEM FROM EVERYTHING I'M HEARING IS THAT STABILIZATION. THEN WE ADDRESS IT.

WHEN YOU BUILD A HOUSE, OR YOU RECONSTRUCT A HOUSE, YOU DON'T GO IN AND JUST DO THE KITCHEN AND THE FOUNDATIONS FALLING DOWN. YOU SECURE IT.

THAT SEEMS LOGICAL. THE OTHER KEY POINT, SOMEONE SAID IT EARLIER, IF A GOOD MAJORITY OF THE POST -- TRACK PEOPLE SAY DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING, SOME PEOPLE LIKE SIMPLICITY AND THE WAY IT LOOKS. THE OTHER PART MAY BE FINANCIALLY.

LET'S TAKE CARE OF THIS VERSE. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PUT ONE THOUGHT OUT THERE.

THAT IS THAT, SINCE WE ARE THE MARINA ADVISORY BOARD AND NOT THE WATERFRONT PARK ADVISORY BOARD, IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WHENEVER WE RECOMMEND OR SUGGEST, ENSURES OR DO NOT INHIBIT THE ACHIEVEMENT OF FINANCIAL FUND. THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT FACES THIS BODY OF WATER I BELIEVE IS NOT WHERE THE WATER GOES, BUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE, THAT THE MARINA ENTERPRISE FUND BECOMES VIABLE WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, OR DOES IT REMAIN UNVIABLE FOREVER. RIGHT NOW IT IS IN THE UNVIABLE FORMER MODE.

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>> I WAS GOING TO SAVE THE VENTURA PROPERTY. WE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR EIGHT

YEAR BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING EVER GOT MOVED. >> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE

$12 MILLION THAT'S IMPORTANT. >> THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO SAY. WE HAVE TO BE LASER FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS IN THAT AREA OF TOWN, IN CARRIAGES THE VIABILITY OF THE FUND THAT IS THERE. AFTER BUILDING A KAYAK'S SYSTEM THAT'S FINE.

THIS WOULD HAVE IMPEDED THE INABILITY OF THE MARINA TO ACHIEVE VIABILITY.

STOP ON THE SOUTH BEND WITH THE BAND SHELLS THAT WILL NOT IMPACT THE MARINA SPECIFICALLY.

BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE AREA ADJACENT TO THE MARINA YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE YOU WANT TO ENSURE ABOVE ALL THAT THE MARINA CAN PAY ITS WAY DURING OUR LIFETIME.

>> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS BEFORE MAKE MY STATEMENT.

I PLAYED THIS INSTRUMENT. >> I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE INSTRUMENT, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DEFINED AS THE ECONOMIC DRIVE DID THE CITY THAT

THEY ARE THERE COLLECTS. >> IT BROUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE. HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD YOU SAY

JOE? >> I JUST NO IT WAS 40 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES IT WAS STILL AT THE TOP THEN THEY USE THE PARKING LOT FOR OTHER PERSONS AS WELL. IS IT REASONABLE TO SAY IF IT

MOVED FROM THAT LOCATION THAT WOULD NOT BE AS VIABLE COLLECTS. >> THEY DID NOT PLAN IT.

THEY JUST STARTED PLAYING THE TOP. >> IT WOULD BE TO THE DETRIMENT OF THAT IF IT MOVED. THEY HAD 26 COURTS JUST IN THE PARKING LOT.

IT WAS A BIG DEAL. >> THE NEW DESIGN -- THIS WAS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

>> THERE WOULD'VE BEEN MANY COURT SO WE HAVE TO FIND THE LOCATION.

MAYBE WE COULD DO IT. THEY HEADED TENNIS COURT BUT THE CENTER COURT IS WHERE THE ACTION TAKES PLACE. IF THE PLAN SUBMITTED GOES FORWARD.

IT JUST WILL. >> THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT WE REMOVE SOME BOTH PARKING.

SO, THAT IS AN ISSUE. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEM. >> THAT GOES TO THE POINT.

>> YES. WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THIS. AND PERHAPS MY ISSUE IS THINGS WILL FALL INTO PLACE. THE PARK IS RELATIVELY EXPENSIVE.

>> SO FOLLOWING YOUR THEME, WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON GETTING THE MARINA FUND STABILIZE, DOES THAT

HELP? >> THE SHORELINES STABILIZATION HELPS THE FUND BECOME STABLE

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LOTS OF REASONS YOU CAN. >> YOU HAVE THIS RUN FROM ONE END OF THE PARKING LOT TO ANOTHER END OF THE PORT. THIS CAN EVEN BE EXPANDED TO THE NORTH.

>> THOSE ARE SO UNLIKELY. >> THAT'S GO BACK IF WE DID THE STABILIZATION ITEM THAT WE SAY LET'S DO IT DOES THAT HELP WITH THE RELIABILITY OF THE MARINA FUN.

LET ME AND ON TO THAT. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT THAT IS SET, THE EXISTING DOCS NOW EXIST IN CONCERT WITH THE CHANNEL. SO THIS COULD -- IN MY UNDERSTANDING I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULD SAY THE ISSUE HAS CHANGED EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE HAD BOTH THERAPEUTIC TO YOUR QUESTION, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP, THIS PROJECT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION THEY GIVE THE HOLE THERE WHICH KEEPS THE MARINA FROM GETTING AN EXTENSION.

THIS IS WHAT WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO NORTH OF THE CITY PROPERTY.

THIS GOES TOWARDS ADDING MONEY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT THEN.

>> YOU ARE BASICALLY SAYING THAT, THE PATH TO MARINE FUND LIABILITY IS TO BUILD A BIGGER

MARINA. >> YES, YES. >> SO THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. ARE WE ALREADY AT THE LIMITS COLLECTS ARE WE FULL MORE THAN

NOT FULL COLLECTS IF WE EXPAND WE HAVE MORE SLIPS AVAILABLE. >> THE PATHWAY IS TO EXPAND THE

MARINA. >> THE PROPERTY, STEVE'S PROPERTY.

YOU DON'T NEED THE LAND RIGHTS IF YOU'RE ON THE WATER. THAT IS HOW THEY GOT THE APPROPRIATE AN INDIANS CREEK. YOU CAN PUT A DOCK IN FRONT OF IT YOU JUST CAN'T MESS WITH THE

LAND. >> HE MADE THROUGHOUT THE CURB ON THAT.

>> ISN'T THERE. WHERE YOU HAVE TO USE A COLLECTS.

>> WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS SOLD, WHOEVER HAD THE PROPERTY, THEY HAD TO RETAIN IN THEIR THINKING THAT THEY HAD TO. WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO SELL PROPERTY IF YOU ARE THE ADJACENT OWNER BUT TO KEEP DOING THAT.

MY EARS DEALING WITH DP, YOU HAVE TO BE THE HONOR TO HAVE THE RIGHT SPIRIT ANY DEAL STRUCK BETWEEN PEOPLE MAY BE GOOD, BUT WE HAVE TO GET DEP TO GIVE US THIS IN WRITING.

IF WE OWN THE PROPERTY, THAT ISSUE IS NO LONGER WE DO NEED AN EXPANSION.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR. THE BOARD'S POSITION IS, THE PATHWAY TO THE VIABILITY IS TO

EXPAND THE MARINA. >> WHAT ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU WILL HAVE TO INVEST.

>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE MORE THINGS. THAT IS HOW YOU MAKE THE MARINA PAY FOR ITSELF.

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SO MORE DOCS WON'T DO IT COLLECTS. >> NO.

>> I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS NOT SOLD. IT HAD TO DO WITH SOMETHING LIKE

THE EXPANSION OF THE RIVER. >> AND HE KEEPS GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY.

>> WE HAVE MORE FACTORS TO KEEP IN MIND. THIS IS A BATTLE WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE FOUND THE ROAD. IT IS THE COMBINED LINE WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A STATUS LINE THAT HAS ERODED AWAY BUT IT EXISTS. ANYTHING BROUGHT JAN'S THAT SHOULD NOT BE.

THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, WAY BACK IN THE DAY WHEN IT WAS ESTABLISHED THAT ANY PERMANENT IMPROVEMENT EXCEEDED THE RIGHTS OF THE OWNER. THEY HAVE DONE A FLIP OVER THE 100 YEARS BUT WE DO HAVE THE BULKHEAD LINE. SO ANYTHING ELSE COULD BE USED.

THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO NOW, FOR ANY OF THOSE PROPERTIES, THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO IS THIS.

THERE'S LIMITED THINGS TOO. >> AGAIN, I THINK THE LASER FOCUS OF THIS BODY NEEDS TO BE ON VIABILITY OF THE FUN. SO WE ARE SITTING YEARS A GROUP AND SAY THAT ACQUIRING RIGHTS AND ADDING DOCS IS ONE PATH TO GO THEN LET'S DO FOCUS ON THAT. LET'S WRITE IT DOWN MAKE A PLAN

AND RECOMMENDATIONS. IF THIS IS THE WAY TO IT, I AM >> I DON'T THINK THE RETURN ON

INVESTMENT WILL BE THERE. >> I HAVE AN ARGUMENT, THE INVESTMENT OF WHETHER THIS COULD BE ASSISTED. THINK ABOUT THE WATER IS ALWAYS DEEP.

UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT. >> THAT IS A BIG FINANCIAL ADVANTAGE.

I'M SAYING YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THAT. >> I JUST DON'T THINK I LIKE THE

RETURN ON INVESTMENT. >> ONE LAST THING. WE TALKED ABOUT COMPETING INTERESTS ON THE WATER SIDE, A LOT OF US WOULD LIKE TO USE THE MARINA AS A COMMERCIAL ENTITY LOCALLY THROUGH COMPETING WITH THE TRANSIENT DOLLARS. IF YOU HAVE DOCS UP THERE I THINK WE CAN SUSTAIN AND GO FORWARD. I WAS A JOINT YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND AT SOME POINT, THE CITY COMMISSION CONSIDERED A FIVE-YEAR PLAN OR DOWN THE ROAD THAT ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES ALONG WITH THE STABILIZATION AND RESILIENCY

INCORPORATE. >> LET'S GET SOME JUSTIFICATION. THAT IS FAR FROM BEING PROVEN.

>> LET'S GET BACK TO WATERFRONT DEALS. LET'S GET BACK.

IF YOU DO HAVE THIS, THEN THE CITY MARINA CAN BENEFIT BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN LISTEN.

YOU WILL GET REVENUE OF OF THAT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THE SHORELINES STABILIZATION NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED FIRST. THE REST OF IT, ONCE THEY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY THAT IS

ANOTHER ARGUMENT FOR ANOTHER DAY. >> THE FOCUS OF THE GROUP HAS TO BE HOW DO WE BRING THAT FUN TO VIABILITY. IF THE SHORELINES STABILIZATION IS A PIECE OF THAT NO PROBLEM. IF ACQUIRING AND BUILDING MORE DOCS, WE NEED TO WRITE THIS DOWN AND OFFER JUSTIFICATION ON WHY THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT COURSE TO DICTATE.

BUT THIS FUND HAS TO STOP LOSING MONEY. AS THE BOARD THAT HAS TO BE OUR

MAIN FOCUS. I AM SURPRISED THAT IT ISN'T. >> WE ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT OTHER ROUTS OF MAKING MONEY OTHER THAN BOAT SLIPS FOR THAT IS WHAT WE HAD RESTAURANTS AND MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. EVERY SOURCE WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT GENERATE FUNDS IS TO THE

[00:50:01]

IF THE SHORT STABILIZATION IS THE FIRST ROUTE, THAT IS WHERE WE SHOULD GO.

>> THEY HAD IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE WOULD MOVE THIS FORWARD. >> A LOT OF THIS MAY BE

PREMATURE AT THIS POINT. >> LET'S GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY HOW TO MOVE FORWARD TO SAY IF THEY WILL PRODUCE MORE. THE HOPE IS THEY WILL.

THEY CAN GIVE US IDEAS ON HOW TO IMPROVE THAT. >> THEY SHOULD HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO DO THAT. THAT IS WHY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOUT ADDING DOCS TO

THE NORTH LET'S ASK THEM. >> BRING THEM INTO THE THINKING OF COULD THIS MAKE MORE MONEY.

>> WE HAVE BEEN LISTENING IN THIS FOR 20 YEARS. TWENTY-FIVE YEARS SO FAR.

SO, THIS IS PART OF THE ISSUE I DO THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE, WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE MOST FAVORABLE MOVIE THE CIVILIZATION WAS NATURAL. YOU CAN RAISE THAT AND HAVE A NATURAL SITUATION. THAT IS PRETTY EXTREME INEXPENSIVE.

PERHAPS, THE COMMISSION MIGHT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT THAT WILL ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE TO THE WATERFRONT THERE WILL BE BATHROOMS THERE. THEY HAVE SEAFOOD PLACES.

ALL OF THAT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN STOMACH THAT AND IT WOULD NOT HURT THE VEREEN AT ALL.

THE CITY WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT. WE CAN SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, IF THE BOOK IT IS THERE WE CAN BUILD IT AGAINST THE SHORELINE.

THE OTHER QUESTION WAS WE WANT THE ITINERARY. YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF THERE.

BUT, IF IT'S DEEP ENOUGH -- >> THERE WAS A SHRIMP DOCK FROM A MILLION SEAFOOD ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY DOCK. FROM WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW TO NORTH WAS A COMPLETE DOCK WHERE

AT ANY GIVEN TIME THEY HAD IT. >> LET'S GET BACK TO BUILDING SOME DOCK THAT COULD BE PART OF

THE MARINA. >> THIS HAS TOO MANY PARTS TO WORK.

AT THIS POINT WE WILL HAVE TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE CITY COMMISSION HAS TO SAY GOING FORWARD. WHAT PARTS OF THE PLAN THEY WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH.

WE CAN SUPPORT THEM. THIS WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW OR NEXT YEAR.

PERHAPS NOT THE NEW DUST RIGHT YET THAT. >> I WON'T TO ADD ONE LAST THING. THE SUBSTRUCTURE, ALL OF THE INCLUDE THE ASSESSMENT AND

REBUILDING. >> THAT HAS TO BE DONE. SO THIS BECOMES A HIGH PRIORITY.

SANCHEZ R. >> ONCE THAT IS REDUNDANT DOES IT COME INTO THE VEREEN UPON OR

DOES IT GO TO PARKS AND RECREATION? >> IS IT UNDER THE MARINA?

>> WE DON'T GET THE MONEY. THE PARKS GET THE MONEY AND WE GET THE BILLS.

>> I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK THIS NOT ONLY THE SUBSTRUCTURE IT IS THE BUILDING TOO.

>> RIGHT WE INHERIT THAT YOUR THAT IS WHEN IT WILL HAVE TO BE REPLACED.

[00:55:18]

>> I WILL SEPARATE FOR THE AGENDA ITEM. IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH THAT? THIS WON'T GO AWAY. WE WILL KEEP WORKING ON THIS AS WE GO.

MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE AN ITEM THAT IS SPECIFIC TO LIABILITY. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT EVERY

MEETING WHAT WE CAN DO. >> OKAY. IS EVERYONE READY TO MOVE ON

[6.2 Channel Update]

COLLECTS. >> ASPECTS. >> THE CHANNEL UPDATE.

>> WERE YOU AT THE LAST MEETING? >> JUST I WAS AT THAT MEETING. I WAS AT THE LAST PORT OF COMMISSION MEETING. I CAN'T TELL YOU THERE'S NOTHING MORE ON BACK.

THE STRATEGY OF DEEP COMMISSIONING THE CHANNEL WITH A CUMBERSOME BUREAUCRATIC

SLOW-MOVING PROCESS. >> IT IS IT A POLITICAL ISSUE? >> AND IT CAN BE.

>> MAYBE IT SHOULD GO THROUGH THE POLITICAL CHANNELS. I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO EVERYONE AND

THEY KNOW IS GOING ON. >> EVEN TO ADD TO PAUL'S COMMENT ABOUT FUNDING.

GIVEN THE CORONAVIRUS, GIVEN THE COST OF VACCINES, THE HOLD ADMINISTRATION, IMAGINE FREE VACCINES FOR 330 MILLION PEOPLE. AND REALLY PACKAGES. WHAT WAS THE FIRST 11.2 TRILLION AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER 1 TRILLION-DOLLAR PACKAGE.

WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FOR RESILIENCY. THERE IS NOT.

CHANCE -- >> THE PORT HAS DONE THEIR BUDGET.

NOW THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE 42 FEET AT HIGH TIDE. >> WAS THERE NEW COMMISSIONER?

>> YES. >> THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE CHANNEL.

[6.3 FEMA Update]

>> WE WILL MOVE ONTO THE NEXT. THE BALL IS IN FEMA'S COURT. SO, FLORIDA EMERGENCY OFFICE, APPROVED. OUR APPEAL FOR FEMA FUNDING. NOW THAT BOTH REGARD FEMA REVIEW BOARD. THE BOARD YOU ARE APPEALING TO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THE ORIGINAL DECISION. SO THIS IS A TWO-STEP PROCESS WE HOPE THEY WILL TURN US DOWN THEN WE WILL APPEAL WHICH IS THE 11TH OFFICE. PEJA GOES ALL THE WAY UP.

THEN WE GET APPROVED THERE. WE ARE WAITING ON THE FIRST FEMA STEP.

THEY HAVE 60 DAYS TO RESPOND. THAT OFFICE WAS DONE. IT WILL BE DONE BY THE END OF

THE YEAR. >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT.

[6.4 Marina Project Updates (Part 1 of 2)]

THE MARINA PROJECTS UPDATE. >> AT THE LAST CITY COMMISSION MEETING WE APPROVED A LITTLE OVER $200,000 FOR THE FUEL LINES. THE UNDER GROUND TIMELIES THAT WE HAVE A DATE WHEN IT BE DONE. I HAVE A GAS AND I WILL GET TO THAT.

I WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS THEN WE WILL GET TO IT. THE FUNDING IS IN PLACE THE UNDERGROUND LINES WERE TESTED AND THEY PASS. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DIG EVERYTHING UP WE ARE GOOD TO GO THERE. ON THE DECEMBER 1 AGENDA WE WILL

[01:00:13]

SO, THE BEST GUESS IS THE END OF JANUARY. >> BEFORE THE HIGH SEASON

STARTS. >> CORRECT. SO, SO FAR WE ARE GOOD TO GO ARE WE GOOD WITH THE CONTRACTOR? AND YES. I BELIEVE THEY AWARDED THE

CONTRACTOR. >> THEY VOTED TO SPEND THE MONEY , THE CITY DID THEY

AUTHORIZE THE FUNDING. >> IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF IT IS AVAILABLE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ON LONG DELIVERY TIMES WHERE ATTACHED I SPOKE TO KATHY AND SHE SAID SHOULD BE HERE.

THAT IS CORRECT. THEY THINK THE ACTUAL WORK SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE THAN THREE WEEKS BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. BUT WE HAVE THE HOLIDAYS. WE HAVE A CHANGE ORDER YET TO

GET THE PERMIT. >> EXACTLY. >> F GOOD NEWS.

>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I WILL MENTION IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. ON THE NOISES CONTRACT WHICH WAS APPROVED AT THE FIRST MEETING. MCCARTHY WAS THERE AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT MCCARTHY CAN CONFIRM EVERY ISSUE RAISED WAS BY CHAIRMAN OR MYSELF.

WE ASKED EVERY QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED AND GOT THE ANSWER. >> GOOD.

>> ALWAYS IS WAS APPROVED AT THAT MEETING? >> CORRECT.

>> DO YOU KNOW THE DATE CORRECT. >> DECEMBER 1. IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE STAFF -- I SPOKE TO SIX OF THEM AND THEY INDICATED THEY WILL BE KEEPING THREE OF THE SOFTWARE

BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD OFFICIALLY. >> I WAS RETOLD JUST LIKE I WAS

TOLD THEY WOULD RETAIN SOME OF THEM. >> LET ME GET BACK TO BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE HEARD, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD. I JUST THINK YOU HAVE TO MAKE A

STATEMENT I REALLY RESPONDED. >> I MET WITH TAMMY AND DALE WHEN I RECEIVED YOUR INFORMATION. I'VE READ THE QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

SO THEY WERE PREPPED AND PREPARED. ENQUEUE.

[6.5 Mooring Field]

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOT MUCH TAKING PLACE RIGHT THERE.

[6.4 Marina Project Updates (Part 2 of 2)]

THE MARINA PROJECT UPDATE YOU SKIP. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES ON THE DOGS THEMSELVES. THERE WE HAVE WHAT IS UP THERE NOW.

THE COST OF WHAT WE ARE HOLDING. SHERMAN WILLIAMS RECOMMEND TO TOUCH THIS UP.

[01:05:17]

>> MY QUESTION IS, MY QUESTION WAS, DO THE RENTAL FILINGS YOU SOME PAIN OR WAS IT DATED AT THE LOW TIDE OUTWEIGHED THE WATERS WOULD NOT SHIP IT. WITH ITS GOOD PAINT, IT SHOULD

BE OKAY. >> THERE MAY BE MORE THAN ONE SOLUTION.

THAT MAY BE A GOOD SOLUTION BUT THE QUESTION IS, HOW DID WE GET IN THIS SITUATION AND WHY ARE WE GOING BACK TO THE VENDOR TO MAKE THEM DO IT RIGHT THAT'S A QUESTION.

>> THEY KEPT CLEANING THE PADS ARE KNOW WE HAVE BROWN THINGS. IT MIGHT BE A DESIGN ISSUE WHOEVER'S SELLING THIS WOULD CERTAINLY AVOID THIS ISSUE. THE QUESTION IS DOES THE PROJECT MANAGER NEED TO GO BACK TO SHERWIN-WILLIAMS AND SAY WHY IS YOUR HOLDING FADING.

IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE SOMEONE DID NOT PREP WRITE OR WASH IT RIGHT.

THAT IS THE CASE HAVE TO FIX IT. BUT THE CITY SHOULD BE AFTER A VENDOR TO COUGH UP THE MONEY TO DO THIS. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY EVERY TIME THEY SCRAPE THAT WE HAVE TO

GO FIX IT. THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. >> THEY NEED CONCLUDING DOWN PERKS AT LOW TIDE THEY ARE THIS HIGH. IT GOES BACK TO THE MARINA

VIABILITY. >> WE WERE WONDERING, WHO IS ACTUALLY IN CHARGE WAX.

>> THE BALL IS IN HIS COURT. >> WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE COMMITTEE, IF THE COMMITTEE IS IN CHARGE, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. THERE IS NO ONE HUMAN BEING THAT

IS IN CHARGE OF THIS, I THINK. >> A PROJECT MANAGER WORKS FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

THEY ENFORCE CONTRACTS WITH THE VENDORS. >> THAT'S NONSTANDARD TO ME.

>> I HAVE HAD PROJECT MANAGERS WHO MANAGE PROJECTS. >> WHY ARE WE GOING BACK TO THE

VENDOR. >> THAT SHOULD BE OUR QUESTION WE NEED TO FOLLOW-UP, WHAT WHAT WAS THEIR PLAN TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION AND WHY ARE WE PAYING A COMPANY FOR THEIR KIDS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A QUESTION WE CAN ASK THE CITY MANAGER. MAYBE WE NEED TO ASPIRATE WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHERE THE BALL WAS DROPPED IN THE ELEMENT OF DESIGN OF THESE PILOTS.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN EASILY UNDERSTOOD. >> AT THIS POINT, THE PROJECT MANAGER SHOULD CONTACT SHERWIN-WILLIAMS BEAR HAVE THEM ANALYZE THE PROBLEM AS TO WHY IT IS OCCURRING. IT SHERWIN-WILLIAMS PRODUCTS FAILING, IF THAT IS THE CASE WE

[01:10:01]

BUT THE CITY SHOULD NOT EAT THIS FOR YEARS TO COME. >> HOW DO WE FIX THIS PROBLEM?

>> MAYBE YOU CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TIED TO A RESOLUTION.

>> THE OTHER PROBLEM WAS THE PHONE. >> THE NEXT QUESTION WAS THAT I SEE THE FORMATION FORMING AND SHE INDICATES AS OF NOW, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING BEING DONE TO

ADDRESS ONGOING FILTRATION AT THE END OF DOCK TWO. >> LET ME OFFER SOME

SUGGESTIONS. >> WHEN WE PUT BOATS ON THE DOCK, RIGHT NOW HALF OF THEM ARE NOT SAFE AND I WILL BE A COMPANY MANAGEMENT ISSUE. BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPOT THE BOLTS ON THE SOMETHING AS FAR AS WE CAN. THAT WOULD BE ONE SOLUTION.

THE OTHER SOLUTION MIGHT BE, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS OFFERING A SHRIMP BOAT THAT DOCS EVERY SATURDAY THAT SELLS SHRIMP LIKE A FARMERS MARKET. SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO COME STIR

IT UP AS IT CAME IN-AND-OUT. >> YOU ALSO NEED TO APPLY THAT TO THE SOUTH DOCK.

>> MAY BE DARK ONE BECAUSE IT IS FILLING IN AS WELL. IT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

THERE IS NO MOVEMENT GROUND THEIR VERY DOWN AND DOCK THREE. DOCK THREE NEEDS TO GET A BOAT IN THERE. I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT WHEN WHEN THEY COME TO THE

MEETING. I WANTED TO SAY IT. >> THAT IS DEFINITELY A PROBLEM

OCCURRING. >> LET'S START MOVING BOATS. >> THEY NEED TO SPOT THE BOATS.

>> I GUARANTEE MY DOC WOULD BE LIKE THAT. WE HAVE KEPT IT CLEAR.

IT MAINTAINS ITSELF. >> SO, IF WE CAN GET SOME BOATS TO MOVE THERE, MAKE A PLAN.

THEY'RE COMING IN EVERY DAY AND GOING OUT EVERY DAY. >> LAPTOP POWER FOR THAT.

>> OR PERHAPS A SHRIMP BOAT THEY CAN SELL SHRIMP. THAT WILL MAKE MONEY.

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY POPULAR. >> I SAID THE MORE BOATS MOVING

BETTER. >> ONE DAY PER WEEK. >> TOLD THEM THEY CAN PUT UP A

FOR-SALE SIGN FOR SHRIMP. PEOPLE STAND IN LINE. >> IS IT LEGAL FOR A SHRIMP BOAT

TO SELL SHRIMP OFF OF THEIR BOAT. >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TWO

DIFFERENT LICENSES. >> MOST OF THEM DO. >> THAT IS THEIR ISSUE.

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GIVE UP THE DOCK SPACE FOR THE DAY. >> ONE ALREADY DOES IT.

>> YES IN HIS BOAT WOULD BE PERFECT. >> .

ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE FUEL LINES AND COMMISSIONER LEDNOVICH ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT.

>> WHAT ARE WE DOING ON THE PHONE ISSUE. >> I HAVE NOT NOTICED IT LIKE I

DID BEFORE. >> IF YOU LOOK AT LOW TIDE YOU WILL SEE THE PHONE.

IF YOU LOOK DOWN, YOU WILL SEE IT ON THE INSIDE. >> YOU CAN SEE IT IN BIGGER

[01:15:03]

CHUNKS. >> WE WORRY ABOUT A PLASTIC STRAW GETTING INTO THERE.

>>) >> SO THAT ONE HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED AT ALL.

I WILL ASK THOSE QUESTIONS OF THE CITY MANAGER. >> HOLCOMB THEY WERE NOT

ADDRESSED ON THE QUESTIONS? >> THEY ARE AWARE OF THEM. THE ONLY COMMENT I GOT FROM THE CITY MANAGER WHEN I BROUGHT IT TO HIS ATTENTION WAS, BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING WITH THE BLOOD NEW MANAGEMENT. HIS COMMENT WAS, IT WASN'T AN ISSUE TIDE WITH THE NEW MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT WAS THE ONLY RESPONSE I GOT. BUT THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.

SHE IS AWARE. I WILL BRING IT UP AGAIN AND IT WASN'T FACE-TO-FACE.

>> OKAY.

[6.6 Transition Status Nov 5/6 Eric Bradley and Bryan Arnold met with staff for introductions Nov 16 Scheduled to return this week]

[6.7 Kayak/canoe/small boat]

THE OTHER ISSUE WAS THE LOADING DOCKS WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

PERHAPS, WE COULD ADD A KAYAK FROM THE BOAT RAMP. THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM.

>> THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE MAKE MONEY ON IT DID YOU CONTACT ANY MARINAS.

>> YES, I DID. >> I CONTACTED A BUNCH OF MARINA SPIRIT ONE HAD 30 KAYAK RACKS THEY CHARGE $20 PER MONTH AND THEY ARE ALL FULL. THEY DON'T HAVE A ROOF OR ANYTHING. THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING BUT COLLECT MONEY THE GUY HAS TO PUT HIS OWN LOCK ON IT. IF HE WANTS TO PUT TWO KAYAKS IN IT WILL COST THEM $40.

>> GETS BETTER. >> THE VERO BEACH MARINA HAS THEIR KAYAKS OUT IN A PARK.

THEY HAVE 100 SPACES. THEY CHARGE $30 PER MONTH. BUT THEY DO CUT YOU SLACK IF YOU PUT TWO KAYAKS IN YOUR SPOT. IT WILL ONLY COST YOU $45 PER MONTH.

IT BRINGS IN $24,000 PER YEAR OFF OF THE KAYAK RACK. >> IT PROBABLY DOESN'T COST YOU THAT MUCH FOR THE RACKS. THAT TO ME IS A NO-BRAINER. THIS IS JUST WEST OF THE

DISPENSARY DOWN THERE. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTH BEND QUACK STAND YOU CAN JUST PICK OUT A WAY TO LAUNCH THEM. THEY CAN WALK DOWN AND PUT THEM

INTO THE WATER. >> WOULD MANAGE THAT? >> YOU COLLECT MONEY --

>> YOU WOULD COLLECT THE MONEY? >> THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY. >> YOU DON'T PUT LOCKS ON IT OR

ANYTHING. >> THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT'S WRACKED WITH THE CITY PUT IN THE

[01:20:03]

FACILITY? >> YES. THAT WOULD BE A MANAGEMENT ISSUE FROM THE CITY. BUT AT LEAST, YOU'RE BRINGING IN $24,000 PER YEAR WITHOUT

GENERATING -- WITHOUT DOING MUCH BEARING. >> PEOPLE DON'T CARE THAT IT IS

IN THE RAIN OR SON AND THEY SAID NO. >> HOW DO WE MOVE THIS FORWARD?

>> I WOULD ASK FIRST, I WOULD COMPILE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL LOOK AT.

A PRESENTATION. I WOULD LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT RACKS.

I WOULD GET GOOD DATA SO WE CAN SEE IT ON THE SCREEN. I DON'T WANT TO GET EXCITED ON REVENUE RIGHT AWAY. PEOPLE MAY HAVE AN INTEREST, BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT COMPARING APPLES AND ANIMALS. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO LOOK AT THE MARINAS THAT OFFERED THE SERVICES. LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT RACKS. JUST HAVE A GOOD LOOK AT.

>> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEMAND IS. >> MAKE IT 40.

>> MAKE IT EXPANDABLE. >> THERE WILL BE PROBABLY 20 KAYAKS AT THE MOST.

MAYBE A DRY STORAGE. AND THE COMMISSIONER SAID THERE'S NO ROOM NEAR THE STORAGE. IT DEPENDS WHAT SIZE OF A DRY STORAGE YOU WILL BUILD.

THEY CAN KEEP THEIR BOAT RIGHT THERE. YOU CAN INCORPORATE THE BOAT

WITH THE KAYAK. >> WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS ITEM, I'M WITH YOU ON THIS, SOME PLACES DID NOT HAVE DRY STORAGE. THEY HAD SLOTS, PEOPLE JUST PUT THEIR BOAT IN CERTAIN SLOTS.

>> NO COVER NO NOTHING. >> THEY PAID A PERMIT FEE. IN L.A. THEY WERE USING PERMIT

FEES FOR YOU TO GET YOUR KAYAK FEE. >> JUST DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

>> I KNEW DRY STORAGE WAS POSSIBLE. THEY HAVE 160 SLOTS AND PEOPLE

JUST USE THEM. >> YOU ALSO HAVE A LIABILITY ISSUE SO YOU HAVE TO PUT FENCING AROUND IT. IF YOU WERE TO PUT YOUR BOAT ON A PROPERTY YOU WOULD ASSUME

SOMEONE LIABILITY BECAUSE YOU ARE RENTING A SPACE BAR. >> I'M JUST SHOWING WHAT I SAW.

>> WE SHOULD LET OASIS FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH IT. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO PUT THE LABOR TO IT. LET THEM SIT WITH WHOEVER IS GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

THEY HAVE FLOATING KAYAK LAUNCHES. THE BOATS COME AND GO.

>> I KNOW YOU ARE A SAILOR. WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE IN SMALL BOATS.

>> VERY POPULAR. >> THAT WILL BE A BIG DEMAND. >> WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST FISHING. WE REALLY DO. THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE WILL WANT OUT OF THE MARINA. WE'VE SEEN A DOWNSIDE IN THE BIG BOATS.

I THINK THIS IS INCORPORATED WITH BOATS ON TRAILERS. I'M SURE OASIS WILL RECOMMEND

[01:25:07]

THAT. >> THAT IS THE PROBLEM. THE MARINA IS MAKING MORE MONEY

WITH THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE. >> THE DRY STORAGE HAS BEEN SHOT DOWN EACH TIME.

>> IS NOT THAT THEY DON'T SUPPORT IT. A LOT OF THESE IDEAS, THE REAL TEST IS ECONOMIC. WILL IT PAY FOR ITSELF. SO THE KAYAK BEING, MAYBE IT IS

24,000 PER MONTH THAT IS ASSUMING THE SPOTS ARE FILLED. >> THAT'S 24,000 PER YEAR.

>> THE DEMAND IS THERE. THEY HAVE A WAITING LIST FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT DRY STORAGE.

>> THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT ADDING ANOTHER BUILDING. >> IF I COULD JUST WEIGH IN ON THAT. AND ALL OF THE YEARS OF TRYING TO GET THIS MARINA SOLID, WE ALWAYS SAID DEVELOPMENT. THE KEY TO THE WHOLE SUCCESS. UNFORTUNATELY, AS WE LISTEN TO THE WATERFRONT PROJECT THE COMMUNITY ONCE TO HAVE THE MARINA SELF SUSTAINABLE.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD AT THE WATERFRONT. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PRIVATE GROUP WOULD DO THE DEVELOPMENT. THEY TALKED ABOUT SHOPS AND RETAIL ACTIVITY. PEOPLE SAID SO MANY THINGS. SO WE ARE AGAINST THE TIDE OF PEOPLE'S PERCEPTION OF WHAT THE WATERFRONT IS. UNFORTUNATELY THE COMMUNITY'S PERCEPTION IS NOT ABOUT THE ARENA. SO, GOOD IDEAS BUT A DRY AREA, WE HAVE TO FACE THE REALITY THIS COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT TO TRULY GIVE AWAY THEIR TOOLS.

IF THE MARINA DID DO THE DRY STACK WE HAVE TO TAKE ON THE TASK -- DEPTH TO DO IT.

I SOUND LIKE A WET BLANKET BUT THESE ARE GOOD IDEAS BUT THE COMMUNITY MAY NOT HAVE THE

BACKING. >> WE COULD DO IT TOMORROW AND OFF WE GO.

>> ACTUALLY JUST COME UP WITH A BASIC PLAN TO GET THE FOOT IN THE DOOR AND SEE HOW IT GOES.

WHEN WILL THEY LAUNCH? THAT IS MY QUESTION. >> RIGHT NOW, EVERY DAY.

THEY HAVE FOUR KAYAKS. >> I TELL YOU A PERFECT PLACE. >> ARE RIGHT.

THAT'S AN AWESOME PLACE. THEY CAN WALK DOWN THE BEACH. OR THE LAND TO THE NORTH.

MAYBE A BOAT LAUNCH ON THE SHORE. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS THINKING, ON THE NORTH END. YOU CAN PUT THE KAYAK RIGHT THERE.

>> THOSE DOCS ARE SWEET. SOMEONE NOT VERY ATHLETIC CAN JUMP RIGHT IN.

GETTING YOUR BOAT AND GO. IT'S MUCH SIMPLER THAN TRYING TO WALK UP THE RAMP.

>> I THINK MIKE HAS HEARD WHAT WE ARE SAYING ABOUT THE IDEA AND I FIGURE HE WON'T BE TOO LONG

TALKING TO SOMEONE ABOUT KAYAKS. >> IS DEFINITELY A DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC.

ONE IN PARTICULAR, THEY HAD KAYAKS, THEY HAD SMALL DINGHIES, STANDUP POWER BOARDS, THEY HAD SMALL SAILBOATS, I ALSO HAVE A LOT OF GOOD NEWS. AND THEY HAD ALL OF THAT.

SO, THIS WAS REALLY DIVERSE. BUT, THE TWO THAT I LOOKED AT BOTH HAD SIGNIFICANT WAITING LIST. AGAIN, THEY WERE VERY SIMPLE IN CONSTRUCTION, BUT WHEN ALAN BRINGS OUT IS A GOOD POINT, JUST MAKE SURE WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, THERE'S ALSO ACCESS.

[01:30:08]

THEIR CAR AND GET TO THE KAYAK. >> EVERYTHING FROM MIKE GOT TO OF POWER THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THEY ALSO HAVE TO SERVE AS A. I WANT TO MOVE CAUTIOUSLY TO SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO BANK ON THEM WHETHER THIS IS SUCCESSFUL. I THINK ANYTHING WE PRESENT, I DON'T WANT TO RELY ON SOMEONE ELSE TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL. MAYBE WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING OURSELVES TOO.

>> THAT MEANS THEY WOULDN'T MANAGE THE FACILITY. >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE, JUST SENT OASIS AND WAIT TO SEE IF THEY LIKE IT OR DON'T LIKE IT.

>> IF WE WENT OUT TO BUILD IT AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SERVE EXISTED -- SERVICE IT.

WE WOULD GET VISUALS. WE WOULD PUT IT TOGETHER. WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING THERE.

WHEN THE COMPANY COMES IN IT IS A'S DISCUSSION WE ALREADY HAVE. >> MAY BE IN OUR NEXT MEETING IF

YOU WANT TO PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE PRESENTATION. >> I WILL DO MORE RESEARCH.

>> SEND IT MY WAY. >> I WILL ALSO TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS. >> IT HAS TO GO TO HIM BECAUSE

OF THE SUNSHINE LAW AND GO TO ALL OF US. >> IT HAS TO GO TO WHEREVER IT

IS CHARGE BECAUSE OF THE SUNSHINE LAWS. >> I SAID I WILL LOOK THROUGH

IT. >> NO, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH WHOEVER WILL REPLACE JOE.

>> NO I SAID I WILL GO TO THE MARINAS I CONTACTED AND ASKED THEM TO SEND PHOTOS SO WE CAN PUT THAT IN HIS PACKET AND SEE IF THEY SEND ME THE CHARGE SHEETS TOO.

IF THEY CAN ME AN IDEA OF HOW OFTEN -- HOW BIG OF A WAITING LIST THEY HAVE AND THAT KIND OF

STUFF. >> UPKEEP OR ANYTHING. SO FOR THE NEXT MEETING I WILL

HAVE THAT AND THEN I WILL SEND IT TO YOU. >>

>> THEN I WILL SEND IT TO THE CITY MANAGER. >> MY BACKGROUND WAS BUSINESS CONSULTING. ANYTIME YOU HAVE A BUSINESS IDEA, THE WAY TO PUSH IT FORWARD IS TO HAVE A BUSINESS PLAN. SO, AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID SO FAR.

SO A BUSINESS PLAN WOULD BE, HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST TO BUILD, WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE BUILD.

WHERE WILL YOU LOCATE THIS. >> SO, REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THE PETROLEUM BUILDING.

THE SPACE ON THE SOUTH END IS LIMITED. WHERE ARE YOU PROPOSING TO PUT IT QUACKS WHAT IS THE INCOME FORECAST. CAN YOU GET PRIOR COMMITMENTS.

SO IS THERE A KAYAK CLUB ON THE ISLAND, CAN YOU GET SOME FREE COMMITMENTS TO VERBALLY SAY YES, I WILL USE THIS. WHAT WITH THE REVENUE FORECAST BE CIRCULATED OUT YEAR ONE, YEAR TWO, WHAT WOULD YOUR GROWTH BE. I LIKE THE IDEA OF STARTING SMALL AND ADDING SECTIONS SO REMEMBER IF YOU WILL USE THAT MODEL YOUR FOOTPRINT WILL INCREASE OVER TIME.

IF YOU GO TO THE OASIS AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY FAT IS THE WAY TO APPROACH IT.

[01:35:11]

>> IF WE WERE TO PUT TOGETHER A BUSINESS PLAN WE COULDN'T SEND IT TO THE OASIS WE HAD DESCENDED

TO THE CITY MANAGER. >> IN THE CITY MANAGER. THAT IS CORRECT.

YOU WOULD GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER JUST SOME THOUGHTS FOR THIS IDEA.

>> OKAY, GOOD. SO WE WILL BRING IT BACK UP. WE WILL ADD IT TO AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING. THEN WE HAVE, THE NORMAL STUFF INCLUDING HOW CAN WE MAKE MONEY.

>> THE LASER FOCUS IS ON ENTERPRISE AND LIABILITY. A KAYAK STORAGE MECHANISM COULD BE A PIECE OF THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE EVEN A ROUGH OUTLINE OF THE ECONOMICS LOOKS GOOD, THE COST TO BUILD IT ROUGHLY WHAT MIGHT YOUR REVENUE BE WHAT WILL IT COST TO MANAGE, IF YOU CAME UP WITH A NET POSITIVE OF SOME AMOUNT THAT IS COMING TOWARDS LIABILITY.

TO ME, A FULL BUSINESS PLAN WOULD HAVE EVERYTHING MIKE SAID. A THREE-PAGE SHEET IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE TO GET PEOPLE TO SAY YES THAT IS ECONOMICALLY VIABLE OR IT IS NOT.

ULTIMATELY YOU JUST NEED THE PLAN. >> TYPICALLY YOU NEED A PRO

FORMA. >> YOU NEED MORE THAN A PRO FORMA.

THIS WOULD BE UNDER NEW BUSINESS. I HAVE YOUR APPROVAL TO SEND IT

TO BUSINESS. >> YES, I'M SORRY MY PHONE JUST TURNED AND THERE IS A DOCUMENT I

NEED OFF OF FEAR. >> ALL RIGHT, SO THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS BEING REVISED. THERE'S GOING TO BE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF EFFORT.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE BIBLE OF THE CITY. IT IS THE GUY FOR HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. IT WAS WRITTEN IN 2005. INTENDED FOR WHEN THEY WROTE IT FOR 2020 SOUL, IT IS OUT OF DATE. MOVING FORWARD, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE VISION IS FOR 2045. WHAT I WANT TO POINT YOU TO, IS UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THERE IS A SECTION FOR FACILITIES.

AND UNDER SECTION FOUR IS THE MARINA. IT IS POLICY FOR .10.

LET ME SCROLL DOWN. >> THIS IS THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CLICKS.

>> THIS IS THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WILL BE UPDATED FOR THE VISION OF 2045.

NONE OF US WILL BE AROUND. >> WE CAN'T PUSH IT TO 2050? >> NO.

>> SO IT IS POLICY FOR .10. IF YOU GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE DO A SEARCH AND IT WILL COME UP.

SO, LOOK AT THIS. THE MARINA SHALL PREPARE A LONG RANGE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH CONSIDERATION FOR ANNUAL DREDGING. THAT IS FOUR-POINT 1,003.

THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. I DON'T KNOW OF A LONG RANGE DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES ONE EXIST QUACKS THERE SOMETHING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS NEVER DONE.

NOW YOU HAVE A NEW TASK. IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO TAKE IT. I'M NOT SURE THERE WAS A BOARD

WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN, PROBABLY NOT. >> THERE WASN'T.

>> SOMEONE DID NOT EXIST. POLICY THE CITY SHALL VOTE CONTINUED FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE

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>> SO HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS GROUP TO WORK ON THOSE SPECIFIC SECTIONS ON THIS PLAN.

SO, I WOULD URGE THE CHAIR TO CONTACT THE ENTIRE COMP PLAN THAT'S DONE BY THE ADVISORY BOARD AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE ON THIS TASK TO REACH OUT, THOSE COORDINATING WITH THE CITY PLANNER, MS. GIBSON ABOUT YOUR

INVOLVEMENT IN UPDATING THIS PLAN. >> WHEN WILL THIS BE ADOPTED

QUACKS. >> THIS WILL BE OVER SEVERAL YEARS OF WORK.

>> THEY ARE TAKING THE FIRST PASS AT IT. I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS IS PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. PUBLIC OUTREACH. BUT TO THE POINT ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN HERE IT IS. HERE IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

>> RIGHT NOW IT HAS A PLACEHOLDER. >> EXACTLY.

>> I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AND MENTION THE PLAN TO YOU AND YOUR PARTICIPATION.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS. >> NO.

>> IS A LONG PROCESS. >> BACK IN JULY I BROUGHT TO THE BOARD ASKED COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THE PARKING LOT. WHERE YOU PARK YOUR BOATS, THEY HAVE WHERE YOU PULL YOUR CAR UP.

ANYWAY, I THINK THERE ARE 12 PARKING SPOTS OVER THERE. PROBABLY HALF OF THEM HAVE REBAR AND EXPOSURE LIKE THIS. AND PARKING LOT BE, IN PART OF C NEEDS TO BE RESTRIPED.

IF YOU GO OUT ON A BUSY DAY PEOPLE ARE NOT PARKING BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEE THE STARTS AND

YOU HAVE ONE CAR SITTING INTO SPOTS. >> SO REBAR PARKING LOT D.

>> I HAD MORE BUT I COULD NOT DOWNLOAD IT. THAT IS PARKING LOT C.

AND WHERE YOU HAVE HANDICAPPED YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THIS. SO THIS NEEDS TO BE RESTRIPED.

CAN YOU E-MAIL THIS TO ME AND PUT YOUR NOTES ON IT THEN I WILL FORWARD IT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

IF YOU LOOK AT PARKING LOT B YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION WORK WAS DONE AND IT WAS NOT REPAVED. IT WAS REPAVED BUT NEVER MARKED. THEY RAN A CABLE BUT --

>> THAT WOULD REALLY HELP OUT THE PARKING AND IT COULD BE A LAWSUIT AND PARKING LOT C AND D.

>> I WILL SEE. SEND ME THE PICTURES WITH A BRIEF NOTE AND I WILL FORWARD IT TO THE CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> YES. >> OKAY. >> SO WE HAVE NO NEW BUSINESS.

[8. MARINA MANAGER REPORT]

WERE ON THE MARINA MANAGEMENT REPORT. >> NOT MUCH TO REPORT EXCEPT IT HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE WORKING WITH YOU. WE HAVE HAD AN ENJOYABLE TEN

YEARS AND I WISH YOU THE BEST IN YOUR NEXT TEN YEARS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR

ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR THE BOARD. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. >> I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT YOU

HAVE DONE TO PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER. >> IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE.

>> YOU HAVE BEEN AN ASSET TO FERNANDINA BEACH. IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE KNOWING

YOU. >> WE ALL WISH YOU THE BEST, JOE.

>> YOU HAVE ANY PLANS QUACKS. >> I REALLY DON'T HAVE PLANS. I FIND IF I STAY OUT OF THE WAY

SOMETHING GREAT COMES ALONG. >> SO YOU'RE GOING TO JUST WAIT. THAT WON'T BE THE WORST THING IN

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THE WORLD. >> I DID OFFER TO BE SCOTT'S DRIVER BUT HE SAID NO WAY.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO DISAPPEAR OR YOU WILL COME TO FERNANDINA BEACH FROM TIME TO TIME QUACKS.

>> I'M SURE WE WILL. >> COME SAY HELLO TO US. >> I WILL.

>> HEY JOE, WAS THIS THE CITIES PUMP QUACKS. >> IS THE CITIES.

THIS CITIES PUMP IS SLIPPING SOMEHOW AND THEY ARE SERVICING IT THIS TIME.

>> WILL I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE WE HAVE BUTTED HEADS BUT I THINK YOU GUYS DID A GREAT

JOB. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. >> A GOOD COMPANY IS COMING IN.

WE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU. HOPEFULLY YOUR FUTURE WILL CONTINUE ON.

>> I ECHO THAT. >> THANK YOU FOR HELPING ALL OF US.

WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. I EVEN GOT A LUNCH OUT OF THAT EVERY NOW AND THEN.

SOMETIMES IT EVEN CAME IN A PLASTIC BAG. >> OBVIOUSLY I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME MORE THAN TIME MORE THAN ANYONE. IN ADDITION TO THAT I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE STAFF BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE, AS YOU KNOW, THE STAFF THROUGH ALL THE HARD TIMES, YOU GUYS ARE AHEAD BOOTS ON THE GROUND WHY THAT'S RIGHT WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO GET

THROUGH THIS. THANK THE GODS FOR ME TOO. >> A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE DOWN

THERE. >> WHEN I LAUNCHED SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT THE MARINA I KNOW YOU WERE VERY ACTIVE. ON THE THANK YOU. YOU WERE CRITICAL WHEN WE WERE OUT OF ORDER OR HOW WE HAD TO GO THROUGH PROCESSES. AND THE THIRD ONE FOR ME IS ON A PERSONAL SIDE YOUR FLEXIBILITY. WHEN WE DID THE PANEL FROM ST. MARY'S TO FERNANDINA BEACH THROUGH ALL OF THE YOU MADE IT HAPPEN. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

>> IT HAS BEEN GOOD. >> WOULD BE OUT OF PLACE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE BOARD FORMALLY THANK JOE FOR HIS SERVICE AND ASSISTANCE OVER THE YEARS QUACKS I MAKE THAT MOTION.

>> SECOND PERIOD. >> AND JOE WILL SECONDED. >> ALL IN FAVOR.

>> AYE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL CERTAINLY MISS YOU.

IT IS ON THE RECORD. >> DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS QUACKS.

[9. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS/COMMENTS]

>> I HAVE ONE. BILL RECENTLY PASSED AWAY. HIS DAUGHTER NATALIE, ORGANIZED A MEMORIAL FOR HIM. IT WAS GREAT A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOWED UP.

AND WE WILL MISS HIM. IT WAS A VERY COLORFUL MAN. SOMEONE TO TALK TO DON AT THE MARINA. I E-MAILED EVERYONE WHEN IT HAPPENED.

SOME WERE IN SHOCK. I WAS TOO. WE WILL MISS HIM.

AND HIS NAME WILL GO ON A MEMORIAL. >> HE WAS 62-YEARS-OLD YESTERDAY. YESTERDAY HE WOULD'VE BEEN 62-YEARS-OLD.

>> TOO SOON. WAY TOO SOON. >> THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

[10. NEXT MEETING DATE]

AFTER CHRISTMAS. >> THE 28TH. SO THAT WOULD BE THE MONDAY

AFTER CHRISTMAS. >> I DO WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.

THAT IS AGAIN, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE MISSION ON THE BOARD IS TO MAKE THE MARINA VIABLE.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE PROACTIVE WORKING WITH THE NEW COMPANY IN EVERY WAY WE CAN

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>> ANY COMMENTS QUACKS. >> THE COAST GUARD. THEY ARE PREPARING SIGNS TO GO UP THE MARINA AND ALONG THE EAST COAST AND WEST COAST. BASICALLY, I HAVE TWO OF THEM.

ONE FOR THE MARINA HERE AND ONE WHAT WE CALLED THE BASIN. THEY BASICALLY SAY IF YOU RUN A GUIDE BOAT, MAKE SURE YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES. AND THE COAST GUARD RIGHT NOW IS STARTING TO TICKET PEOPLE AND THEY JUST DID A NUMBER IN DAYTONA.

SO THESE SIGNS WILL BE GOING UP AND WHEN THE OASIS TAKES OVER, I WILL LEAN INTO THEM AND SAY DO

YOUR BEST BUT THESE ARE COAST GUARD NOT COAST GUARD AUXILIARY. >> THANK YOU.

>> I LIKE TO SAY HAPPY THANK YOU -- HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYONE.

THE SECOND THING WOULD BE, I THINK IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US AS A COHESIVE BOARD TO GO AROUND WITH THE NEW YEAR COMES AROUND TO GREET AND WELCOME THE NEWPORT COMMISSIONER, COUNTY OFFICIALS, THE NEW COUNTY BOARD AND THE CITY COMMISSION. I WANT MORE COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT FOR 2021.

THE THIRD ITEM IS COMPLETELY OFF OF THE MAP. SO IF YOU LET ME YOU CAN YELL AT ME ATER ON THIS. AS YOU KNOW, I'M ROLLING ACROSS THE ATLANTIC OCEAN NEXT YEAR.

WE JUST PICKED UP OUR EQUIPMENT ON SATURDAY. SO IF YOU SEE IT, I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE WATER SO I KNOW YOU WILL SEE ME IN MY CANOE. BUT IF YOU SEE THIS WEIRD ROWBOAT THAT IS OUR SPIRIT GIVE US A SHOUT OUT AND SOME SUPPORT. THAT'S IT.

WE ARE EXCITED. >> THANK YOU. LAUGHTER.

>> ANYWAYS IT IS EXCITING. WE PICKED IT UP ON SATURDAY. SO YOU WILL SEE US OUT THERE ON

A LITTLE WEIRD DEVICE. >> HOW MANY DAYS WILL YOU GUYS PART OF THIS QUACKS.

>> THE RECORD IS 50 DAYS SO WE WANT TO COME IN BETWEEN 47-48 DAYS.

WE ARE PLANNING ON PACKING FOR A TRIP THAT COULD BE UP TO 55 DAYS.

>> HOW MANY GUYS QUACKS. >> FOR ABOUT SPIRIT. >> SO YOU WILL BE TOGETHER ALL

THE TIME QUACKS. >> YES. WE BRING OUR OWN FOOD THAT'S

RIGHT WE BRING OUR OWN FOOD AND DRINK OUR OWN WATER. >> YOU WILL EITHER BE GOOD

FRIENDS OR ENEMIES AFTERWARDS. >> IT WILL BE ALL AROUND DOWNTOWN.

SO YOU CAN SEE US. IT'S CRAZY TO THINK WE WILL BE IN THERE FOR 40-50 DAYS.

>> WE STAY IN THE BOAT AND IT'S UNSUPPORTED. ONCE WE LEAVE THE MARINA WE CAN

ALL AROUND. BUT NEXT UP IS ANTIQUA. >> YOU DON'T HAVE A SUPPORT BOTH

FOLLOWING YOU QUACKS. >> NO SUPPORT BOTH. >> COMING OFF OF THE CANARY

ISLAND'S GOING TO ANTIQUA. >> THAT WILL BE AN INTERESTING TRIP.

>> ARE LEAVING WHEN QUACKS. >> WE LEAVE DECEMBER 12, 2021. >> WE HAVE TEN MONTHS TO TRAIN.

>> WHEN YOU START YOUR VOYAGE QUACKS. >> WE WILL START AFTER THE WEEKEND OF DECEMBER 12. WE WILL ONLY STAY ON THE BACKWATER UNTIL APRIL THINNING APRIL WE HAVE SOMEBODY FIND OUT TO DO THE INSTRUCTION TRAINING. ONCE WE COMPLETE BACK, AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT LIFESAVING GEAR WE WILL GO THROUGH OUR FIRST AID COURSE.

THEN WE HAVE TO LOG 120 HOURS ON THE WATER. BUT IT WILL BE NIGHT ROWING.

>> I THINK WE SHOULD ADD AN AGENDA ITEM WHERE YOU PRESENT UPDATES.

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>> IS COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC. >> HOW BIG IS THE BOAT QUACKS. >> 20 FEET LONG, 5 FEET WIDE.

>> IT MAY BE TO HAVE FEET. >> A LITTLE SMALL CABIN. WE HAVE A RADAR.

WE HAVE A GPS. WE HAVE TWO CELL PHONES. >> AND YOU WON'T HAVE A SUPPORT

VESSEL QUACKS. >> NOTE NO ONE WILL FOLLOW US. INTERNATIONAL INTERNATIONAL RACE, SO THERE WILL BE PEOPLE FROM SOUTH AFRICA SWEDEN, UK, EVERYONE'S ROWING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. WE ARE ROWING FOR VETERAN SUICIDE.

>> SO THERE'S A LOT OF BOATS QUACKS. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS ISSUED BY

YOURSELF. >> YOU WON'T SEE ANYBODY. EVERYONE ALWAYS SAYS THAT BUT EVERYONE TAKES OFF BUT YOU ONLY SEE THEM FOR THE FIRST AFTERNOON THEN THEY START SPREADING OUT.

LAST YEAR THE FIRST FIVE DAYS, 90% OF THE FLEET TOOK OFF AND FOR THE FIRST FIVE DAYS WE WERE UNDER SEVERE SEASICKNESS AND THEY PULLED SOME PEOPLE OFF OF THE COURSE.

THEY ACTUALLY THINK FISHER MAY BE THE FIRST TIME EVER THEY CAN CONSIDER IT A WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE MORE THAN SEVEN COUNTRIES. >> AND YOU WILL START WHEN

QUACKS. >> DECEMBER 12. >> DECEMBER 12.

I'M A METEOROLOGIST. I'M JUST LOOKING AND THINKING. >> THEY HAVE ALREADY DELETED.

SO IF THERE'S NO HURRICANE WERE GOING. IT'S EXCITING.

>> THE END OF HURRICANE SEASON IS A GOD. >> I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT

SO IF YOU SEE A GENERIC BOAT LOOK FOR SPIRIT. >>

>> ANYTHING ELSE QUACKS. >> NO, PLENTY OF GOLF. >> THEY SAY THE AVERAGE ROWBOAT WILL GET HIT IN THE FACE 22 TIMES.

>> THAT'S IT. I MAKE A NOTE THAT WE ADJOURNED. HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE.

>> ALERT. >> THANK YOU. >> A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.