[1. CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL / DETERMINATION OF QUORUM] [00:00:06] >>> THE SESSION IS NOW IN SESSION IT'S 5:00 STRAIGHT UP FOR THE RECORD. TAYLOR WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> WE HAVE THREE NEW BOARD MEMBERS WITH US THIS MONTH. FIRST THING WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS THANK THEM FOR VOLUNTEERING FERNANDINA BEACH IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND THAT IS DUE IN LARGE PART TO OUR COMMUNITY FROM THE POLICE OFFICER AREAS ON THAT TO EVERYBODY ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE FORT WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT HAS VOLUNTEERED FOR OUR COMMUNITY BOARDS RIGHT NOW AND IN THE PAST. SO RIGHT HOW WE HAVE JEFF BRANDT WHO WILL BE A PERMANENT MEMBER NOW. AND ANTHONY OLIVIA WE WILL SEE HIM RIGHT NOW. THEN OUR FIRST ALTERNATE AFTER HIM IS MR. SKULLNESS. SO WE'LL SEE THOSE TAYLOR IF YOU WILL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT ON THE RECORD. AND THANK YOU. ANY BOARD MEMBERS ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION ON THAT? >> NO. >> NO. >> WE'RE GOOD OFTEN -- ON. THAT TAMMY CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? >> YES, SIR, I HEAR YOU JUST FINE. IF YOU WILL GO OVER WHY WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS IN WILL IS AN APPEAL HOW THE VOTING MUST GO FOR US THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> OKAY. AND FORGIVE MY VOICE, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A COLD WHICH IS WHY I'M COMING TO YOU VIRTUALLY. TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO CASES ON THE AGENDA. THEY WILL BE CONDUCTED AS QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS. WHAT THAT MEANS IS FIRST CITY STAFF MISS DAPHNE WILL PRESENT EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY FOR THE RECORD. SHE WILL CALL ANY WITNESSES SHE HAS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SHE HAS ANY THIS EVENING AND THEN THE TWO APPLICANTS FOR THE VARIANCES WILL EACH HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AFTER SHE PRESENTS HER TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD THEY WILL BE PRESENTING EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY AS WELL. BY EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY I MEAN OBVIOUSLY VERBAL TESTIMONY BUT ALSO DOCUMENTS AND PHOTOGRAPHS, MEMORANDA ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE TO PRESENT WOULD BECOME PART OF THE RECORD. TONIGHT'S CASES ARE VARIANCE CASES. WHAT THAT MEANS UNDER THE CITY CODE IS IN ORDER TO APPROVE OF VARIANCE REQUESTS THE BOARD HAS TO FIND THAT ALL OF THE CRITERIA HAVE BEEN MET. HAVE YOU STAFF REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU FOR EACH CASE WHERE STAFF WENT THROUGH THE SIX CRITERIA AND MADE A DETERMINATION AND ANALYSIS OF THE SIX CRITERIA AND GAVE HER OPINION. DESPITE WHAT SHE WOULD SAY PARTICULARLY THE PERSON MAKING THE MOTION WOULD GO THROUGH THE SIX CRY TER AND STATE THEIR REASONS FOR FINDING IN FAVOR. IF YOU WISH TO DENY AND IT REQUIRES FOUR OF YOU TO VOTE FOR APPROVAL. FOR A DENIAL OF A VARIANCE, IT REQUIRES A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF THREE. IN THE CASE OF STAFF, FOR EXAMPLE, FINDING THAT SOME CRITERIA HAVE NOT BEEN MET IT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR YOU TO RELY ON STAFF REPORT IF THOSE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT HAVE BEEN NOT APPROVED OR NOT MET YOU COULD FIND THAT THOSE WERE NOT MET AND AGREE WITH STAFF OR YOU MAY FIND THAT OTHER CRITERIA HAVE NOT BEEN MET EVEN IF STAFF SAID THEY HAVE BEEN MET. SO IF THERE ARE ANY AFFECTED PARTIES IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT OR ON-LINE I DON'T SEE ANY ON-LINE, ARE THERE ANY AFFECTED PARTIES BEFORE I GO THROUGH THAT MR. CHAIR? >> I DON'T THINK SO, NO. >> I'LL GO ONTO THE NEXT. IF THERE'S AN APPEAL TO BE TAKEN OF ANY OF THE DECISIONS MADE TONIGHT THOSE APPEALS ARE FILED BY THE APPLICANTS. THEY CAN BE FILED BY AFFECTED PARTIES. HOWEVER WITH NO EFFECTIVE PARTIES PRESENT IN CHAMBERS TONIGHT OR ON-LINE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PRESENT THEIR TESTIMONY AT THIS HEARING AND THEIR OBJECTIONS SO THERE COULD BE NO APPEAL FROM AN AFFECTED PARTY. THE APPLICANTS CAN BE THE ONLY APPELLANTS THEY WOULD FILE THEIR APPEAL WITHIN 30 DAYS TO THE CIRCUIT COURT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY MEMBER BOARD? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WELCOME TO THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS. I'M NORMALLY THERE IN PERSON. I THINK THAT YOU WILL FIND THIS A FULFILLING EXPERIENCE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS [00:05:01] I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO YOU. YOU CAN CALL ME IN MY OFFICE AND I WILL GIVE A SUNSHINE LAW REFRESHER AT OUR NEXT MEETING SO EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF OUR SUNSHINE LAWS AND PUBLIC RECORDS LAWS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS MR. CHAIR? >> QUESTIONS NEW BOARD MEMBERS? >>. NO NO. I THINK THAT I THINK THAT'S FINE. GO AHEAD. >> SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. I FORGOT VERY IMPORTANT POINT THAT WOULD HELP OUR NEW MEMBERS ESPECIALLY IF THEY DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE IN QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND ALL OF YOU NEW MEMBERS AND ALSO CURRENT AND LONG SERVING BOARD MEMBERS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS TONIGHT BASED ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. YOU WILL WEIGH ALL OF THE EVIDENCE THAT COMES TO YOU TONIGHT BUT ONLY THE CONFIDENCE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU CAN USE TO MAKE YOUR DECISION FOR OR AGAINST THE VARIANCE. SO BY, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE IRRELEVANT. IRRELEVANT EVIDENCE OR EVIDENCE THAT'S NOT COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE AN APPLICANT OR A CITIZEN IN THIS CASE JUST AN APPLICANT THAT SAYS, WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO NOT LOOK NICE FOR THE NEIGHBORS. OR SOMETHING OTHER THAN THOSE LINES. IF THEY DON'T HAVE EXPERTISE JUST AN OPINION FROM THE LAY PERSON ON THE SUBJECT MATTER IS NOT CONSIDERED COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. IF Y'ALL TONIGHT ESPECIALLY WITH THE MAJORITY ARE NEW MEMBERS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT WE CAN TAKE JUST A COUPLE MINUTES TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. >> I THINK EVERYBODY IS GOOD. I THIS I WE'LL JUST GET OUR FEET WET. I THINK IT WILL BE A GREAT IDEA TO GO OVER THE SUNSHINE LAW IN THE NEXT MEETING. >> YES, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? >> I DON'T SEE THE MINUTES [3.1 Approval of Minutes for the October 21, 2020 Regular Meeting.] IN HERE FROM THE OCTOBER 21ST MEETING. DID YOU NOT PRINT THOSE OUT? >> NO, THEY'RE HERE. >> YOU ARE ALWAYS UP TO DATE ON THAT. I READ THE MINUTES THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WAS AT THE END OF THE MINUTES WHERE IT SAYS ACTION TAKEN LAST SENTENCE DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. CRITERIA FOR OUT OF THE WAY OF ANY PROBLEMS. I JUST SUGGEST YOU TAKE THAT SENTENCE OUT OF THE MINUTES. >> WHERE IS THAT? >> UNDER THE ACTION TAKEN. >> DAPHNE YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE ABOUT SOME OF THE ERRORS AND DATES ARE WRONG ON OUR WEBSITE AS FAR AS THE CITY UNDER THE DID YOU LOOK AT THAT AND CORRECT ALL THE GRAMMAR AND ALL THAT STUFF ON THERE? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> OKAY. >> TAYLOR I DID FIND WHERE YOU PRINTED THOSE OUT. I'M SORRY. >> DAPHNE, THE SECOND CASE THE 0012 CASE. >> WE WILL POSTPONE THAT TO THE 16ING IS THAT THE CORRECT DATE? WE ARE POSITIVE PONYING THAT TO A DATE, PLACE AND TIME CERTAIN. THAT WAS OFF THE LIST, OKAY. [5.1 BOA 2020-0011 - CHRISTOPHER MORAN, 107 N. 18TH STREET Request for Variance from LDC Section 5.01.03(J) to construct an accessory structure that exceeds the maximum building footprint of 625 SQ FT. (Quasi-Judicial)] SO WOULD I BE CORRECT TO SAY THAT YOU ARE MR. MORANT. >> YES. >> SO WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU SWORN IN. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S NORMALLY A LOT MORE PEOPLE HERE BUT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE HOLDING A MEETING JUST FOR YOU. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND IF YOU WILL GET SWORN IN THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> IF YOU CAN PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? [00:10:09] >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE ORAL AND/OR WRITTEN TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE STRUGG THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> YES. >> OKAY SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN TO ONE OF THESE MEETINGS OR YOU HAVE SEEN ONE. IT'S GOING TO BE SUPERSIMPLE. WE HAVE CITY STAFF I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU HAVE ALREADY MET DAPHNE OR NOT OR WHETHER YOU HAVE WORKED WITH HER. >> OKAY. SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB FOR US HERE. SHE WILL GIVE US A LITTLE POWER POINT ABOUT EVERYTHING PURSUING TO YOUR CASE CASE THEN WE CAN HEAR FROM YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOU READY DAPHNE. LET'S DO IT. TAMMY CAN YOU HEAR DAPHNE? >> CAN YOU SEE WHAT SHE'S GOT UP ON THE SCREEN. YES, I CAN SEE IT. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. REQUEST FOR ACTION IS AN VARIANCE ON -- THE EXISTING USES ON THE SITE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY AND FOR THE RECORD, ALL REQUIRED APPLICATION MATERIALS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. HIS GARAGE IT WAS SUBMITTED OVER THE 625 SQUARE FOOT FOR TESTING STRUCTURES. IS THERE ANY QUESTION ON ANYTHING SO FAR? >> SURE. SO WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH THE SETBACKS HEIGHT, THE OWN THING WE'RE DOING IS INCREASING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> SO TWO QUESTIONS THEN I GUESS. CAN YOU PULL IT UP SO WE CAN SEE THE STREET VIEW. AND THEN ISN'T THERE A MOVEMENT AFOOT TO INCREASE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE ALREADY? MAYBE IN THE NEXT REVISION OF THE CITY. >> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. >> RIGHT NOW YOU CAN HAVE TWO AUXILIARIES OF THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE, RIGHT? >> CORRECT. >> OKAY. I THOUGHT AT SOME POINT I HAD DISCUSSED THAT WE WOULD APPROACH THE CITY COMMISSION WITH THAT THE NEXT TIME THAT THEY MET AND CONSIDER THAT. >> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING AT THIS TIME. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. >> SO JUST FOR CLARITY THEN YOU ARE ALLOWED TWO AUXILIARY STRUCTURES THERE. >> YES, YOU ARE ALLOWED. 245 FEET? >> 625 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND 25 FEET IN HEIGHT REQUIREMENT. >> DAPHNE, THIS OTHER BUILDING THAT'S RIGHT HERE BY THE SWIMMING POOL IS THAT A CABANA OR JUST A CONCRETE PAD? WHAT IS THAT? >> THE BUILDING THAT'S BY THE SWIMMING POOL IS A POOL HOUSE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. IF THERE WAS A SHED HERE THAT IS BEING DEMOLISHED. AS FAR AS ANYONE ELSE GOES THOSE ARE THE ONLY STRUCTURES. >> AM I WRONG IN MY LEGAL DEFINITION OF THAT THE POOL IS ONE AND THE POOL HOUSE IS TWO? >> THE POOL HOUSE IS CONSIDERED. >> SO THIS WILL BE ITS THIRD ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. >> THIS WILL BE THE SECOND ACCESSORY. >> SO WE DON'T COUNT THE POOL. >> THE POOL IS NOT CONSIDERED AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, NO. >> WAS IT AT ONE TIME? >> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. >> SO HE'S AT TWO THEN. ALL RIGHT. IT'S LISTED AS A GARAGE. [00:15:07] PREVIOUSLY IT WAS A GARAGE AND CONVERTED TO A POOL HOUSE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> IT'S WRITTEN UP IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT IT IS A ONE CAR GARAGE. >> ON THE SURVEY. >> ON THE DOCUMENTS. >> I HAVE CLARIFIED THAT INFORMATION WITH MR. MORAN. IT IS NOT A GARAGE. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS ONE CAR GARAGE IS ONE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOUSE ITSELF? >> CORRECT. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FIXED CRITERIA FOR GRANTING A VARIANCE. SPECIAL CONDITIONS FOR CERTAIN THINGS WHICH ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO OTHER LAND STRUCTURES OR BUILDINGS. SPECIAL PRIVILEGE. VARIANCE DOES A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE THAT TO OTHER LAND STRUCTURES OR BUILDINGS IN THE SAME. ALL RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES WITH A MAXIMUM BUILDING WITH 625 SQUARE FEET. LITERAL INTERPRETATION. NOW LITERAL INTERPRETATION ENJOYED BY PROPERTIES IN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT. ALL PLOTS ARE LIMITED TO BUILDING ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. TO A MAXIMUM FOOTAGE OF 25 FEET. THE QD VARIANCE IS NOT THE MADE -- ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WILL BE 215 SQUARE FEET OVER THE ALLOWABLE 625 SQUARE FOOT BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. GRANTING THE VARIANCE WILL BE IN HORMONEY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. GRANTING THE VARIANCE. PUBLIC INTEREST YES GRANTING THE VARIANCE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IT WILL NOT CAUSE PROBLEM OR ENVIRONMENT THE PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WILL BE IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AND NOT VISIBLE. THERE ARE ACTIONS PRESENTED DOES NOT MEET ALL SIX CRITERIA. >> THANK YOU, DAPHNE. >> SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. IF I LOOK AT, IF I LOOK AT SPECIAL PRIVILEGE NUMBER 2. IT SAYS THAT THE MAXIMUM IS 625 SQUARE FEET. >> CORRECT. >> ISN'T WHAT MR. MORAN REQUESTING 625 FEET. >> IT IS OVER THE LIMIT OF 215 PLUS, THE OVER THE LIMIT. FOR A TOTAL OF 840 SQUARE FEET. >> THANK YOU. >> WHEN YOU DO THE MINUTES WILL YOU PLEASE PUT A NOTE IN THERE TO CLARIFY THAT THE ORIGINAL, I WOULD SAY THE DRAWING SHOW THAT WE DID HAVE A GARAGE BUT IT'S NOW THE POOL HOUSE. JUST TO BE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S CLEAR ON THAT. AND DAPHNE, I THINK THAT THIS IS QUITE SOMETIME BEFORE YOU CAME HERE, BUT WE'VE VISITED THESE ISSUES IN THE PAST BECAUSE THE 625 SQUARE FEET MAKES IT PRETTY DIFFICULT TO GET A USABLE GARAGE OUT OF THERE. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE WE CAME BACK THAT AT SOME POINT WE WERE GOING TO ADDRESS THE CITY COMMISSION WHENEVER THEY WERE WORKING ON UPDATES FOR THIS. THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD ENTER INTO SOME SORT OF A DISCUSSION WITH THAT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TWO 625S BUT WE JUST COULDN'T PUT THEM FORWARD. MAKE SENSE? >> YES. >> OKAY. SO I GUESS WHENEVER WE'RE MAKING OUR LIST OF STUFF WHENEVER THAT TIME COMES MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS WITH THEM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. MORAN. [00:20:01] ABSOLUTELY. >> ALL RIGHT MR. MORAN IF YOU WILL JUST COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. >> CHRIS MORAN 107 NORTH 18TH STREET. >> WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT DAPHNE SAID? >> CURRENTLY WE HAVE AN EXISTING REALLY SMALL GARAGE IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE THAT I THINK A REALLY SMALL CAR COULD FIT INTO THE. GARAGE THAT KEEPS COMING UP IN QUESTION THAT'S THE POOL HOUSE THEY SAID THAT WAS A GARAGE IN 1962 WHEN DRIVEWAY WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE. IT USED COME UP AND AROUND. THEN IT WAS TURNED INTEREST A POOL. THEN BACK INTO A POOL HOUSE WHICH IT IS NOW. THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO STAY NOW. BEES ABLE TO HAVE A GARAGE WOULD BE GREAT TO GET THIS FULL SIZE GARAGE WOULD BE REALLY GREAT. BECAUSE MY IN-LAWS ARE MOVING HERE PERMANENTLY IN EIGHT MONTHS AND MY WIFE'S PARENTS ARE GOING TO BE JOINING US. [LAUGHTER] >> DAPHNE WILL YOU PUT THE STREET VIEW BACK UP THERE PLEASE. >> WE HAVE ROOM FOR THEM IN THE HOUSE. IT'S TWO EXTRA VEHICLES PLUS, ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING DOWN. I WOULD LIKE THE GARAGE. >> I'M A BUILDER BY TRADE AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF TOOLS. >> AND IT'S SINGLE STORY, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. IT'S ALL TRUSS DESIGN, TOO, THERE'S NO WAY ANYBODY COULD EVER LIVE OVER TOP OF THIS GARAGE. >> SO YOUR ACCESS IS DOWN THE OTHER SIDE? >> THAT'S THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. KEEPING -- RIGHT TO THE LEFT. WHERE THE TWO TRUCKS ARE. >> WILL WE GO. SO THE PLAN NOW YOU SEE WHERE THAT BLUE TRUCK IS ON THE RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. >> ONCE MY DRIVEWAY IS NEXT TO THE LEFT TRUCK THIS GOES RIGHT UP TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND THE GARAGE TO BE IN THE BACK. >> IN THE BACKYARD. >> THAT'S THE LITTLE GARAGE. I HAVE BIG VEHICLES IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T KNIT ANYTHING. >> OKAY. -- DOESN'T FIT IF ANYTHING. >> DO YOU KNOW ONE TIME THIS WAS A BEAUTY SALON HERE, TOO. >> I DID NOT KNOW THAT. >> IN THAT CURRENT GARAGE THERE THAT'S WHY THERE'S A BIG CONCRETE PAD IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE IT WAS A PARKING LOT. MY GARAGE HAS ALL SINKS IN IT AND AIR CONDITIONING UNITS THAT WERE ALL RIPPED OUT OLD PLUMBING FOR FOUR SINKS TO DO HAIR SO IT WAS A HAIR SALON AT SOME POINT >> WELL, YOUR HAIR LOOKS GREAT. [LAUGHTER] >> DAPHNE IS THERE ANYBODY ON-LINE? >> I WAS WONDERING DID ANY OF MY NEIGHBORS SAY ANYTHING? >> SO WE CAN'T REALLY SPEAK ABOUT IT. >> I DIDN'T KNOW. THE WAY THAT WORKS OUT IS SOMEBODY HAS TO BE HERE IN PERSON SO THAT WE CAN ASK FOR QUESTIONS AND ALL OF THAT. OR DURING COVID THEY COULD BE ON-LINE. WE KNOW THEM ALL AND EVERYBODY SAID WE'RE FINE IT WITH. >> SO WE CAN'T UNLESS THEY'RE HERE. >> CORRECT. >> SO OKAY. THERE YOU GO. >> NO ONE ON-LINE. >> THERE IS NO ONE ON-LINE. >> NO ONE ON-LINE OTHER THAN TAMMY. >> OTHER THAN TAMMY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR MR. MORAN? >> NO. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES, SIR. >> IT OCCURRED TO ME SINCE HIS IN-LAWS DISLIKE EACH OTHER SO MUCH WHY DIDN'T YOU ASK FOR A VARIANCE TO BUILD A TWO GARAGES? [LAUGHTER] MY WIFE WAS MAD THEY DON'T REALLY GET ALONG VERY WELL. >> ANYTHING ELSE, SIR. >> NO THAT'S IT, THANK YOU. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. >> ANY OTHER BOARD DISCUSSIONS? I GUESS I SHOULD ASK TAMMY WILL ASK ME IF ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC IS HERE IN PERSON OR ON-LINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT? AND TAKE A VIEW OF THIS TO PUT IN THE MINUTE THAT'S NO [00:25:03] ONE IS EITHER HERE OR ON-LINE. AND THEN, WE'LL CLOSE OUT THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THAT. AND ANY BOARD DISCUSSION ON THAT? >> WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION. >> SURE. DOES THE 40 QUARTER SPET REPRESENT THE STANDARD SIZE OF A TWO CAR GARAGE. >> IT'S A WILLING BIGGER THAN A TWO CAR GARAGE. A LITTLE BIGGER THAN A TWO CAR GARAGE. >> 625 FEET STANDARD TWO CAR GARAGE IS THAT WHAT THAT SIZE REPRESENTS? 300 -- 300 FOR A SINGLE CAR GARAGE. >> I THINK THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD WRESTLED WITH IN THE PAST WHEN OTHER CITIZENS WOULD ASK FOR THAT, OF COURSE, BY THE TIME THAT YOU GET TWO CARS IN THERE AND YOU TRY TO OPEN THE DOOR OR THERE'S A BICYCLE OR A LAWNMOWER AND IT'S JUST IT'S JUST TIGHT. THEN THEY START STORING ITEMS OUTSIDE WHICH THE NEIGHBORS MAY OR MAY NOT LIKE. CODE MAY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR PEOPLE TO ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE ON THAT. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? >> JUST CURIOUS IS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE EDGE OF THE GARAGE PROPOSED AND THE EDGE OF THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LOT, IS THAT MORE THAN THE THREE FOOT? >> NO. IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE -- >> SO THE ONLY ISSUE THAT HE NEEDS IS AN INCREASE IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. >> YES. >> 4.2. I SAW IT. IT'S UP THERE IN THE CORNER. 4.2. SO IT'S A LITTLE FUZZY ON THE SCREEN. >> THAT'S OKAY, YOU HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE HOW LONG YOU BEEN HERE NOW? >> I'VE BEEN HERE FOR SIX MONTHS. >> SIX MONTHS. WELL, YOU SHOULD BE AN EXPERT YOU SHOULD BE READY TO OPERATE. [LAUGHTER] >> SO THE EXTRA 10 BY 25 IS JUST TO GIVE YOU FLEXIBILITY? >> YEAH. WORKSHOP, STORAGE. >> ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. BEFORE YOU DO THAT DAPHNE IS THERE ANYBODY ON-LINE? >> NO. >> OKAY. THERE YOU GO. >> OKAY I MOVE TO APPROVE CASE NUMBER 2020-11 THAT THE B.O.A. MAKE THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONDITIONS. B.O.A. CASE 22020 THE STUB SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLIANT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO WARRANT APPROVAL AT THIS TIME. AND I THINK THAT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO APPROVE IT IN LIGHT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S IN AND THE FACT THERE'S NO ONE OPPOSED TO WHAT MR. MORAN IS DOING I THINK IT SHOULD BE APPROVED. >> I GOT A FIRST. >> I'LL SECOND. >> STEPHEN IS GOING TO SECOND IT. TAYLOR WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. FEW DAYS SHE WILL GET ALL OF YOUR PAPERWORK READY SHE'LL GET YOU FIXED UP. >> GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YES, SIR. THANK YOU. >> GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY. >> GOOD NIGHT, SIR. >> STAFF REPORT WE GARY [6. BOARD BUSINESS] CONDIT ANYTHING? HOW MANY CASES ARE ON FOR NEXT MONTH I KNOW WE GOT ONE. >> WE WILL HAVE TWO NOW WITH THE CASE SO WE GOT TWO FOR NEXT MONTH. ANYTHING ELSE? >> I WAS GOING TO GET TO [00:30:01] THAT WHEN WE GOT DOWN TO THE BOARD BUSINESS ON THAT. >> OR IT CAN BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING. >> WELL, LET'S JUST DO -- GO AHEAD AND LOST OUR VICE CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER STEPHEN FOR THAT FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS. ONE, OF COURSE, IS HIS PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND. WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY WOULD YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION BE IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL LIFE? >> I'M A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECT. I DEAL WITH EVERY ASPECT OF CONSTRUCTION FOR THE LAUGH 27 YEARS. I AM THE SENIOR AVIATION LEAD IN THE SOUTHEAST FOR ALL AIRPORTS. >> I COULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT BETTER MYSELF. [LAUGHTER] SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE CITY COMMISSION IS ASKING THE BOARD TO DO. AND THE OTHER THING, THE OTHER 50% OF WHAT I THINK THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS SOMEONE WHO TREATS OUR CITIZENS WELL. AND I THINK STEPHEN HAS SHOWN THAT THAT TRYING TO SEW UNITY HE TREATS PEOPLE VERY WELL EVEN PEOPLE WE DISAGREE WITH WE DON'T WANT TO DRAW BATTLE LINES OVER SOMETHING WE WANT TO CREATE HARMONY EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. I THINK HE DOES THAT VERY WELL. IF THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE THAT THE FORWARD WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER I'M HAPPY TO CONSIDER THAT. OR IF WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SIT DOWN ON THE BACK OF THE STOVE UNTIL NEXT MONTH AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. I'M HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO THERE. >> LET'S VOTE FOR STEPHEN. WOULD I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MOTION WOULD BE? >> ALL RIGHT, SO. WOULD YOU LIKE TO NOMINATE STEPHEN AS THE VICE CHAIR? >> YOU NOMINATE HIM I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND IT. FROM ME BEING THE CHAIRMAN I DON'T WANT -- >> I WILL NOMINATE STEPHEN TO BE THE VICE CHAIR. >> THERE YOU GO. >> DO I GET A SECOND. SECOND. >> THERE WE GO. TAYLOR WILL YOU TAKE A VET ON THAT. >> AND I WOUM LIKE TO TENDER MY RESIGNATION. DISAPPROVE. SO THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF. TAYLOR WAS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE WANTED TO DO? OR IS THAT. >> THAT COVERS IT. SO WE'RE UP TO DATE ON OUR MINUTES. WE'RE BACK IN SESSION. WE'VE GOT A VICE CHAIR. AND WE'VE GET A FULL BOARD NOW THANKS TO SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE BACK ROW THERE. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE HEADING BACK IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THEN. OKAY. ANYBODY ON-LINE DAPHNE? >> NO. TAMMY, ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY BEFORE WE ADJOURN? * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.